#Caltech (2022-2023)

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tardy skiff
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omg i have higher chances of finding a needle in a haystack (when im not even near a needle or haystack) than getting into caltech but its ok!

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hello hello

brittle folio
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same

tardy skiff
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hope we both magically get in!

lament dew
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hello!

meager bison
tardy skiff
tall fable
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I have a cal
I have a tech
ahh caltech

celest oar
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caltech and their quirky essays will be the end of me

tall fable
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Imo caltech has the most straightforward essays compared to other schools. The quirkiest might be UChicago's

upper crater
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Caltechs essays r so repetitive

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Its literally all about your ECs

amber flame
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UChicago's essays are fun to write 😌

upper crater
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I literally ran out of Ecs to write abt for caltech

tardy skiff
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i think cal tech’s ones are good except the innovator one

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cannot for the life of me write a good essay for that one

meager bison
upper crater
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ik

meager bison
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yeah, was just saying

upper crater
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i just

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quite literally ran out

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i tried to even avoid doing stuff i put on my EC list

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😭

meager bison
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btw if i remember correctly you were EDing JHU right? defer/reject?

upper crater
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reject

meager bison
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yea, i got rejected from cornell too

upper crater
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my thing with the essays for caltech

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there are 5 different essays asking about various stuff

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i have

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Stem activity #1: internship
Stem activity #2: courses
Innovation: coding
Interest/hobby #1: reading/writing
Interest/hobby #2:

meager bison
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tbh i liked caltech, yale and columbia's supplement a lot, standford and princeton are sweating me out

upper crater
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im deadass so close to putting dog walking as my #2 interest/hobby

meager bison
upper crater
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😭

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its bc i have a huge EC that i discuss in my PS

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so i cant rlly use it in supps

meager bison
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btw you kinda forgot the diversity question

upper crater
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no i have good answers for those

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the first and the diversity

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i just cannot deal with them caring so much about my ECs

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its funny tbh

meager bison
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yeah

upper crater
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im mad they dont count legacy

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</3

meager bison
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you got legacy in caltech, thats soooo cool

upper crater
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my dad transferred in like sophomore year and got finaid and everything

meager bison
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oh great

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btw I am so stupid, i started out on caltech rea, then read some old website where intls asking fin aid only have to apply rd, scrapped the rea and applied to cornell, only this year they had changed that rd rule 😦

upper crater
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😭

spice sigil
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I think Caltech is the only school I am applying to where the essays don’t feel extremely difficult to write.

tardy skiff
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yeah i totally agree

celest oar
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i think i am struggle bc im not an innovator 😄

tardy skiff
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lowk mood

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the things i innovate are bc i’m lazy which is not a good quality to show LOLL

celest oar
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^

spice sigil
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Hmm, maybe you could phrase it to not reflect laziness but instead a desire for efficiency/to improvement things and link that to reflect creativity or something.

lament dew
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caltech’s essays aren’t difficult to write if you are 99.9% stem oriented

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a lot of my ecs do not involve stem and those which do are belabored on in other essays

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my ps is on art, music, and astro

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and I have 0 olympiad titles because we don’t have olympiads around here

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grounds for just not applying? I have a fee waiver

gritty raven
tardy skiff
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are you guys doing your hobby essays (100 or 50 words) on stem stuff too??

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wait nvm i found a stupid hobby that works 💀

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really stringing that woman in stem thing tho rn

lament dew
tardy skiff
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literally 😭

vapid ember
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(anyways, all the best guys!)

tall fable
plush dove
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can i write about training a pet as a hobby/interest? or is that a bit irrelevant...

upper crater
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If u spend lots of time on it its valid

onyx sage
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out of curiosity, how many of you are/will apply to MIT

upper crater
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me

noble wyvern
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not me

amber flame
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I was planning on applying but then I'd have to ask my teachers for rec letters again for the MIT portal

tardy skiff
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lol same

versed field
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yo

vapid ember
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yo!

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anyone got any idea how much intl does caltech take in RD?

tardy skiff
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i love every single prompt from caltech except the innovator one lol

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every essay ive written for it is so bad

versed field
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although, nothing beats the MIT essays!!!

lament dew
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MIT has longer supplements but they’re asking all of the right questions

versed field
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fr

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It felt like I got to express everything I needed that I would want to express to an AI

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*AO

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And if that wasn’t enough, I had their extended optional essay for 350 words (which I used to show my interest in CS)

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still mad at them for butchering my name tho

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“Visit” 💀

upper crater
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LOL

vapid ember
upper crater
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Imagien u get accepted rd then graduate

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And ur degree thing says Visit

tall fable
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'Visit', MIT class of 2027

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Sure we'll visit

versed field
upper crater
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i like how we were discussing MIT in a caltech channel

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the irony

versed field
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ikr xD

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reason for rejection: talked about MIT

upper crater
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its ok i call mit students silly in my essay

versed field
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reason for acceptance- talked shit about MIT kids

empty wagon
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when does rd come out

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like march

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right

versed field
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yup

gritty harness
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Caltech essays feel really descriptive

versed field
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thats good tho

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allows u to show more about yourself :)

fickle light
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  • not an innovator
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  • not diverse
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I love the supps 😁

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just kidding im writing the quirkiest essays they're gonna love it

lament dew
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woah caltech doesn’t have interviews

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this is perfect

gritty raven
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woo

tardy skiff
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is there anyone else applying to caltech for econ

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lmfao cant believe an econ major made the caltech RD thread 💀

lament dew
tardy skiff
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yeah apparently it does which is so weird but might as well apply

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since i want the stem based side of econ more

floral silo
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Usually done as a double major

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You can see my comments here are about BEM, but they apply to econ too

tardy skiff
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but definitely thank you for the advice since i was switching between econ and math for a while

floral silo
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Yeah that’s much more doable, I’d recommend checking out ACM and IDS too, since the pure math major will have you doing a lot of theory work

meager bison
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Yo, in my hobbies section, i've talked about comedy, included it in ECs as well, would it be alright if I attached a stand-up script I've written and performed ( i would've uploaded the video but i mostly perform at parks, cafeterias etc cuz comedy clubs wont allow me since im not 18 yet, and the videos I have of such places aren't impressive)

empty wagon
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can someone read through my essays

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before i submit

vapid ember
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BTW anyone got any idea if caltech does give need based full rides or not?

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@tardy skiff

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I'm asking for intls

empty wagon
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"Caltech is committed to meeting the full demonstrated financial need of all admitted students. We are need-aware for international students because the total amount of financial aid funds for international students is limited."

vapid ember
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I just wanna know like in terms of number.. if you got any idea

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maybe it doesn't make much sense but every year there must be approx amount of kids going with a full ride right ?

meager bison
vapid ember
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Why is caltech not yet need blind? Is their funding soo bad for undergrad ed?

empty wagon
vapid ember
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😫

empty wagon
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you can look at the avg need based scholarship

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and decide from there

vapid ember
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damnnn

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Wait

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That's pretty good

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Is it from cds ?

empty wagon
floral silo
upper crater
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Im submitting th

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Tn

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I think

primal dragon
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do u think itll be ok if i leave the stem awards one blank

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i have amc scores but didnt qualify for AIME LMAO

upper crater
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yeah

primal dragon
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great thanks

upper crater
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did everyone here do all 3 of the optional ones?

empty wagon
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because honestly had nothing to write for that

upper crater
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for that prompt

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one mentions me as Asian

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and idk if that hurts or smth

meager bison
quiet orchid
meager bison
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submittedcoolcry coolcry

amber flame
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Damn

empty wagon
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if i get waitlisted i'll throw a party

upper crater
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The app id ?

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Its in the email

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With the portal info

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Its also under

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Personal information

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Uh

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Lemme recheck

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💀

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Oh i think i was referring to the temp id 💀

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😭

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We do fullyear grades too our counselors just update with first trimester i think

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But thags annoying

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Pls

meager bison
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well, we'll get pre-board results, you could attach that for mid yr

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idk, i asked my school, they took 500 INR and gave me every doc i asked for,

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like they took money to issue my own grades to me lol

empty wagon
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sneky sneky deleting messages lol

amber flame
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so

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am i crazy for doing every single caltech supplement

mint lintel
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Yes

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We all are

unreal kettle
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Lol

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I did all of them too

upper crater
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all 8

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..

rare shadow
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Oof I didn’t

fickle light
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that's it bro

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I'm writing an essay about fortnite

velvet flume
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don’t think the extra ones are really required but a lot of the accepted people including myself did write at least one of them lol

lament dew
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i feel like a lot of the competition ones don’t exactly apply to me

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i’ve got the hardcore stem stuff tho

upper crater
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I just did all 8

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Lmao

meager bison
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anyone got portal yet?

lavish kraken
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how long does it take to get portal?

sour skiff
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bro i haven't even submitted yet

unreal kettle
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CommonApp says my apps been downloaded by Caltech

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Just waiting for the portal now

lament dew
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nice!

unreal kettle
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Dang

fresh finch
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time to start my caltech essays 😏

lament dew
tiny wyvern
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I wrote Duke instead of caltech in one of my essays and submitted it 💀

unreal kettle
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💀

unreal kettle
fresh finch
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ik what to write abt for each one tho

unreal kettle
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Oh nice

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Good luck!

spice sigil
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For the two what do you do for fun, can we write about a topic in Stem not discussed elsewhere, or should they be non-stem topics?

upper crater
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as long as u ensure ur application shows a clear humanities side in addition to the stem it can be anything

unreal kettle
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Yeah

lament dew
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i didn’t know caltech was into that

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i fr thought i’d be smited if i mentioned anything other than drowning in stem

upper crater
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tbh arent all schools like that

lament dew
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caltech is rlly stem heavy

unreal kettle
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Caltech also requires a humanities class every year for everyone iirc

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The whole thing about Caltech is expanding human knowledge to help society

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In order to help society, you need to have an understanding of the needs, history, and background of society

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Aka a strong grasp on History and the humanities

lament dew
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that’s sick

amber flame
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I feel so lucky I have so much recyclable content😭😭😭😭😭

unreal kettle
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yeah fs

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gl

lament dew
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👀

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i have like 50 different why community why major why this what inspires you

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essays

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with varying word limits

amber flame
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Yeah i recycled 5 of my essays

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It's just the optional ones now for me

rare shadow
lament dew
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caltech’s essays are awesome

lament dew
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i mean tbh

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i was silly not to write my major stem ecs essays yet

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the rest i already wrote

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but yeah for caltech i’m going to unapologetically hammer on my stem stuff in preparation for writing mit tomorrow

unreal kettle
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I actually started with my mit and Caltech essays

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Then used them for other schools

lament dew
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oh that’s amazing

unreal kettle
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I’d say it’s probably good to include how you want to impact society

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Because that’s a huge part of their mission statement

lament dew
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should i use my community prompt for the innovator or “how do your past experiences and present day perspectives”

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because i talk about my impact

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and the impact i intend to keep making

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except it’s loosely stem related

unreal kettle
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For innovator I think they want to see your thinking process and that same ambition/risk taking mindset that mit looks for

lament dew
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hmm idk if it’ll have that appeal

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my community statement is impressive bc i talked about my position in state government

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and talked about conducting research

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and how that’s been benefiting my local and state community and how i intend to keep pursuing it throughout college and into the future

sour skiff
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yuhhh

unreal kettle
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Nice!

lament dew
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congrats

amber flame
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it got done 🎇 and it actually came out nice lol

lament dew
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nice!

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i have yet to start

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but i’ll come up with smth

velvet flume
lament dew
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ooo okay

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yeah tbh i already have quite a few of those so the optionals won’t be hard

velvet flume
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yeah was going to do the last one but 50 words was just so little i physically couldn't lol

unreal kettle
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Are they showing different values, different ways you think, or something like that?

upper crater
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Yea

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U should have diff topics for each

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Not just reusing a point to fill essays

unreal kettle
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yeah

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what are y'all applying for? I applied for meche

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plus additional interest in their aerospace minor

mint lintel
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electrical engineering💀

upper crater
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computational and neural systems

unreal kettle
upper crater
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yea its a rlly niche major im surprised they had it

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unless im just dumb

unreal kettle
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working for 24 hours straight on lab write ups

unreal kettle
lament dew
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agh i did it

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3 in a day

unreal kettle
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nice!

mint lintel
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but i lowkey want a lot of work💀

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or at least a rigorous education

unreal kettle
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yeah caltech is the place where you'll get your ass kicked but it'll be rly worth it lol

mint lintel
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perfect

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praying we get in🙏🙏

unreal kettle
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yesss

lament dew
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i used way too much space jargon

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hope it worked!

vernal snow
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Gl everyone

fresh finch
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chatgpt making me act up

amber flame
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lmao highest chatgpt i've gotten was a 98

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i wonder what a 100 is supposed to look like

amber flame
fresh finch
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with their respective prompts ofc

amber flame
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oh 😭 i just do them individually, probably way less efficient but eh

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it gave my "why this interest" response a 95

unreal kettle
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I always just rate mine out of 10 lol

amber flame
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i always do out of /100 because i noticed it likes to jump around a lot with /10 lmao

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like an essay is a 9 one minute, next minute the same stuff is a 7

upper crater
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make chatgpt write an essay

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and give it back to it to grade

amber flame
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i did that for northwestern and JHU

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it always gets like 85-90

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main critiques being specificity ofc

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hm ok, all my caltech essays got 95

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when do decisions tend to release btw

unreal kettle
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I have no idea

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Soon I hope lol

amber flame
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same 💀

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ik MIT is mid march

unreal kettle
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yeah

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what did you wind up applying for to caltech?

amber flame
unreal kettle
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nice

amber flame
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the two have a very strong connection so it would be beneficial to do both

unreal kettle
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yeah, that's cool

amber flame
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also exploited that in my application lol
what did you apply for?

unreal kettle
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i applied for meche with a secondary interest in their aerospace minor

amber flame
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ooh interesting

lament dew
unreal kettle
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my why major essay had a bit on how I want to extend my current research on robotics and mechanical design to work on cool projects like the helicopter robot veritasium made a vid on a while back lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1_OpWiyijU

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lament dew
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:0 neat

unreal kettle
lament dew
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ah okay

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lemme try that

unreal kettle
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although I've noted that

lament dew
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my essays were kinda rushed but j think it demonstrated my ability v well

unreal kettle
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if you give it a lot of essays it won't actually eval the whole thing properly

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it only reads a couple

amber flame
amber flame
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same

unreal kettle
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then i went out to make a team of my own to make a smallish robot and compete in a state wide robotics comp

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now im doing robotics computer vision research plus loads of engineering mentorship for underclassmen

lament dew
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i so wish i could’ve gathered enough stuff to submit a formal research sup

fresh finch
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bro how do yall have the time to do research 💀

unreal kettle
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by not sleeping 🥴

amber flame
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that's seriously amazing lol, to have that much experience in your niche in HS

unreal kettle
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ty

amber flame
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when i created my little algorithm for estimating hurricane intensity (with satellite imagery), i had a ton of sleepless nights

unreal kettle
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yeah it's rly hard here in iowa where there's like no direct oportunity at my hs, barely anyone goes on to do engineering at my hs with how there isn't ap physics c or much coursework/big club presences for it

lament dew
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i have 300h in orbital dynamics research which is the subfield i want to go into butttt nothing officially published other than some data to the IAU MPC

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and then i do educational outreach stuff for stem

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so idk how that’ll fare in terms of caltech

amber flame
unreal kettle
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it's the process that counts imo, if caltech can see that you can think like a scientist then you're going to be set

lament dew
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very cool

amber flame
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yup

lament dew
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i have a prompt i’m rlly proud of

lament dew
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my whole app was good except for the fact that i didn’t submit a research sup

unreal kettle
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you'll be fine dw

amber flame
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^

unreal kettle
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I hope we all get in!

amber flame
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not like it can hurt

unreal kettle
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yeah lol

amber flame
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📿 prayer beads for 100% A2C RD acceptance to caltech

unreal kettle
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absolutely 😂

lament dew
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fr

fresh finch
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yall have such good apps omg

lament dew
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ahhh my friends are all so much more stacked tho

fresh finch
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i'm literally writing about ricing linux 💀 i have nothing else

lament dew
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i don’t doubt someone from my friend group is gonna get in

unreal kettle
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i don't think i'm rly very stacked at all tbh, my stats aren't amazing

lament dew
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neither are mine

fresh finch
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caltech's test blind right

unreal kettle
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yeah

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they don't get any ap, act, or sat scores

lament dew
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i’m just lucky that i come from a rural background w/ a lot of adversities and managed to get to where i am and use my skills to help others

unreal kettle
fresh finch
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man if my school had more support for stem i'd totally be able to do more stuff

unreal kettle
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fr

lament dew
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yeah i wish 😭

fresh finch
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i'm literally one of the 3 ppl in my robotics team

unreal kettle
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omg yes, that's exactly the case with my school lmao

lament dew
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i have some dinky regional math awards and that’s it for me for stem other than a caltech affiliate summer program & some model rocketry demo stuff

unreal kettle
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i'm working on getting underclassmen interested in engineering since literally everyone at my school seems to just do premed 💀

fresh finch
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like it's on and off as well, last 2 years robotics was nonexistent but at least we came first at regionals

lament dew
amber flame
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i couldn't participate in any competitions really, i opened up too late 💀

unreal kettle
amber flame
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yeah it's either CS or premed at my school

unreal kettle
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honestly yeah

fresh finch
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like 90% of ppl at my school are just going to our state school

lament dew
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here it’s.. idk only 20% of students actually go to college

unreal kettle
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it's crazy how so many people are picking cs and premed absolutely blindly just b/c they're seeing they supposedly will make 100k after grad

lament dew
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most of the top 10% of my class goes to our state school, some go OOS, we had our first ivy this year

fresh finch
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i hope my background comes in clutch cuz i really hoped my test scores and ecs would be enough but clearly not

lament dew
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im glad my test scores aren’t dragging me down

amber flame
lament dew
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they practically had like a 1580 avg before going test blind

amber flame
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yeah um

fresh finch
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wtf

amber flame
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my scores weren't quite it

fresh finch
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nvm about my test scores then

unreal kettle
unreal kettle
fresh finch
unreal kettle
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fs

amber flame
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for caltech anyways, i got like mid 1400s iirc

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tried to retake but my counselor and parents said no

fresh finch
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actually wtf am i doing here i still have 2 more essays for this school to write

unreal kettle
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omg

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shoo! go write

amber flame
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fr

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let's get accepted !

unreal kettle
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yesss

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essays are def rly important for tech

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considering they don't consider testing and don't have an interview

amber flame
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yeah fs

lament dew
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did anyone here do their fly in?

upper crater
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i applied

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got rejected

unreal kettle
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i never applied to that

upper crater
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then realized they dont consider asians minorities

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and got clowned on

lament dew
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i should’ve taken it seriously

upper crater
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at least i got a fee waiver

fresh finch
upper crater
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most schools have one i think

lament dew
upper crater
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u apply if ur minority or low income and they fly u into cmpus

lament dew
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so idk

upper crater
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to tour

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my essays were also crap

lament dew
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nobody else i know got in

lament dew
upper crater
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glad i got a waiver tho

lament dew
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also same

unreal kettle
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does a fly in actually help?

lament dew
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yes

upper crater
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its

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a similar application

unreal kettle
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interesting

upper crater
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so if they like ur flyin app

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theyd assume theyd like ur actual app

lament dew
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they note that you went to fly in

unreal kettle
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damn i wish i applied to that now 💀

lament dew
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i believe it gives you a slight boost

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but there’s only like what

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30? ppl who got to attend the fly in

unreal kettle
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dang

lament dew
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so yeah not that bad

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i can’t wait to get all of my finaid info in for 16 colleges

fickle light
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did I fuck up

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it's only 10:53 in my local time

fresh finch
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no

fickle light
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nvm im guessing i'm chill

fresh finch
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anyone free to look over my inventor essay

stiff siren
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Maybe you should change your time or vpn?

stiff siren
unreal kettle
fickle light
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oh international

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we chillin

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i submitted

unreal kettle
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yay!

fresh finch
lament dew
fresh finch
upper crater
spice sigil
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(19 secs before the due date for me).

unreal kettle
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dang lol

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congrats on getting it in!

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i hope we all get accepted :)

upper crater
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is ur screen ok

sour skiff
spice sigil
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My phone camera is broken, but thankfully my computer screen is fine.

unreal kettle
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looks like it's been hit with a baseball or something

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oh lol

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yikes

unreal kettle
spice sigil
unreal kettle
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meche plus aerospace

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i have yet to see another meche 👀

sour skiff
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am cs major guy

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i wrote all my optional ones today

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the other ones i just polished today

unreal kettle
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did you answer all the optional ones too?

spice sigil
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I wish I had another 5 mins. I forgot the name of an award, and instead had to change it to a certificate of completion(despite it being an actual award). I should have just deleted it though.

unreal kettle
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dang

spice sigil
unreal kettle
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im sure it'll all work out :)

spice sigil
# unreal kettle dang

Now I’ve got to send an email to both UChicago and Carnegie Mellon asking for an extension lol.

unreal kettle
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oh dang, good luck!

spice sigil
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Thanks.

unreal kettle
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ahhh

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i was just about to go to bed

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but then caltech emailed me that i got their portal 😂

spice sigil
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Do you know what the deadline is for the research portfolio and other supplemental uploads via the 'Beaver Breakroom'?

unreal kettle
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it says jan 8th

meager bison
# amber flame i wonder what a 100 is supposed to look like

neither does chatgpt
I was so frustrated with being at 85-95 but never reaching 100, i just wrote" write an essay on <insert topic>", then pasted it to chatgpt after logging in from a diff account
it rated it an 82/100💀, like if its the same algorithm then?

tall fable
spice sigil
meager bison
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wait, whats humanity evaluation?

lavish kraken
spice sigil
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How long does it take to gain access to the beaver break room?

unreal kettle
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Usually a couple days

unreal kettle
amber flame
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But the funniest part is

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I've noticed that it's slightly more specific with it's responses than like a few weeks ago

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Idk what happened with that

unreal kettle
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Yeah I’ve noticed that too

lament dew
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I totally forgot to talk about a project that was a focal point of one of my ECs I talked about

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is that going to look bad? i submitted like right before the deadline and that was my last essay so i totally forgot :(

meager bison
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you forgot to do the essay or did you do the essay and forgot to include the point?

lament dew
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agh should i submit a research portfolio with details on it ;(

meager bison
unreal kettle
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Nope

meager bison
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creative video? where even was that?

lament dew
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at the end i mention "expose students to ideas they may have never had the opportunity nor resources to pursue prior", do you think its still worthwhile to submit a portfolio w/ my stuff or an update with the project?

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OOOOOO

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omg i might actually submit art

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and i can update on my pvc stuff there

meager bison
lament dew
meager bison
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i'd attach a collage of my card-stacking

lament dew
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i just forgot the point on the project

meager bison
lament dew
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hmm alright ill send in art stuff

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and then think abt including the project stuff too in an update

meager bison
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I also love how every college has a plethora of CS geniuses and still all the portals are mostly the same

lament dew
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for simplicity idk

meager bison
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one more thing

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ik the checklist is under works

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but if my counsellor sent school report and transcript together, and its showing a checkmark for school report but not for transcript, should I be worried?

lament dew
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i dont think so, but contact your counselor

meager bison
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well he def uploaded it to CA,
all other portals are showing a checkmark

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also, always imagined my AO to be a balding dude on the verge of retirement, reluctantly reading my app cuz he had to
but my caltech AO seems so contemporary and cool

lament dew
meager bison
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well I think you can see you regional ao on the breakroom

lament dew
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ah i dont have it yet

lament dew
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do you think it’s worthwhile to submit a photography supplemental?

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i have a LOT of really neat photos i’ve taken from trips

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but i feel like that’s kinda not something you want to emphasize

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i could submit my astrophotography ones

amber flame
steel falcon
#

Caltech

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This thread will be used to discuss Caltech, regardless of the application types (Early/RD). Feel free to ask your questions or discuss results or anything else about Caltech here.

spice sigil
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If I am a co-author on a paper that enters prepublication in early February, would that only be relevant if I got waitlisted, or would I be able to email it to the admissions office?

rare shadow
rare shadow
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what were the edits? did the journal confirm publication after revision in february?

amber flame
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Anyone get their portal

lament dew
spice sigil
spice sigil
amber flame
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Yeah same actually

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If it continues, I'll contact them

rare shadow
# spice sigil The edits requested were relatively minor, aside for one which will take longer....

Ok I'd say it's worth an email to update. Since you have feedback, you've gone farther than just preprinting on a research archive, and it would be worth noting. Explain to them what you just did to me; they should add it to your application since it's only jan 4.

and then if you get waitlisted, a publication would be a strong achievement to update them with, since hopefully the paper will have been published by then

spice sigil
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I have another paper in the very early publication stages to be preprinted on arxiv within a week and a half I would be able to link to it then; is that also something worth updating them with, or just the former?

amber flame
amber flame
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I realized it's trying to say I was in the Eastern time zone

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So I uploaded 12:57 there
Idk why it did that (I live in Illinois lol) but that's probably the cause

amber flame
amber flame
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Yup 📿📿📿 that was my best app thus far I think, I'll be pissed if it wasn't recorded due to a glitch

lament dew
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so it might take them an extra day to do so

amber flame
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Ohhhh

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Ok that makes sense

amber flame
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😭😭 I've never received a caltech email either

upper crater
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ive gotten two emails

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submitted on the 1st or 2nd

amber flame
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I imagine they look oddly similar to their Massachusetts counterparts✨

unreal kettle
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🥴

rare shadow
spice sigil
rare shadow
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did you mention that paper in your application at all? how did you present your research (i.e. what research work did you mention) in your app?

spice sigil
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I didn’t include estimated dates for this because I was worried that would make them want to waitlist me(if they liked the rest of my application)

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*I forgot to mention: with the Arxiv preprint, 2 related medium-sized git repos(for the software to implement this) would also become open-source.

rare shadow
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what did you present at SLAC? the conference required you to submit an abstract, right?

i assumed initially that this arXiv paper was research work you've already mentioned (including the type of work, your role, and the professor whom you worked with). at that point, submitting a pre-print would be frivolous.

rare shadow
spice sigil
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Alright, I will do that. Thank you for the information.

rare shadow
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np and best of luck! congrats on your papers; a college decision can't take away what you've accomplished already. 👍

meager bison
#

for the caltech hum eval
I can get it from 2 teachers, both know and like me enough to give a great LOR,
one of them taught me only in grade 9 but knows me a lot better on a personal level, also she mentored many of my ec's as she was the school coordinator for a lot of extramural oratory competitions
the other teacher has interacted w/ me only in class, but she has taught me for all 4years of HS, hence knows my academics a lot better
the deadline is 18th jan and I can't get both LOR's in time, who should I go to?

sour skiff
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aw this caltech portal is so cute

empty wagon
sour skiff
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all my other ones istg use the same template and look like the design is older than me

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i love this

meager bison
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yep + you can see who your AO is, so cool

sour skiff
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i got melissa

meager bison
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I got tessa

sour skiff
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hear me out guys.. what if i submitted a meme into my portfolio

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cause i have no portfolio

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or a funny .gif ?!!

meager bison
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well tbh, i low-key wish unis would stream all convos abt that applicant's apps, no matter how good/bad

meager bison
sour skiff
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especially if she can write about your growth throughout highschool

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for me i used an environmental science/marine biology teacher who's known me and my family for around 5 years now and i've had for college level courses junior and senior year. i also participated in a mission trip to florida that was lead by her where we cleaned plastic on an island and all that

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my other one was my AP language teacher who is also my cross country and track coach that i've known for all four years of high school and been close with. he also knows my sister and my family decently well, and i'm varsity for cross country and track and a captain for cross country, probably the same for track but the season hasn't started yet

meager bison
sour skiff
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roll dice lmao

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almost everyone applying is capable of succeeding at these schools

meager bison
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they'd just call it probabilistic weightage to you app💀

sour skiff
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we'd all survive the school and pass our classes

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they just don't have that many spots

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we'll succeed wherever we end up though even if we get no prestige ❤️

lament dew
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ok so i think i screwed up

spice sigil
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Is the portfolio due date based on when it was sent out. Because, I still haven’t received anything and it’s only a couple days until the due date.

sour skiff
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no

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portfolio is due the 8th i believe

lament dew
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your humanities rec is supposed to attest to your writing skills—my teacher sent me mine and it does not do so

sour skiff
lament dew
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it says “(name) is one of the best students i’ve taught in my 11y tenure” and talks about my personal characteristics + how hard i work

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it’s a literature and philosophy class

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does that count or should i ask for another rec specifically attesting to my writing abilities

sour skiff
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i don't think it needs to specifically attest for your writing skills.. in my opinion?

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on caltech's website ^

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a teacher from economics probably

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can't attest for writing skills

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lol

lament dew
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We would like your humanities or social science teacher to comment on your writing skills, so be sure to ask a teacher from a class with a significant writing component.

spice sigil
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Maybe unassign them and reassign them on the common app?

sour skiff
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oh fr? where's that at

lament dew
spice sigil
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If you are comfortable answering: How’d you go about gaining access to that. Did you reach out to the teacher to see or did they send it to you?

sour skiff
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oh wait i'm on that page

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and it's right in front of me

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oops

lament dew
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i didn’t ask for it and i said i preferred not to see it

spice sigil
lament dew
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is it not good that they didn’t specifically comment on how i write?

sour skiff
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well i guess i got lucky there since mine was my AP Lang teacher

lament dew
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i waived fafsa

sour skiff
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i haven't read mine though so maybe they just talked about me being a hard worker or some generic letter of rec

lament dew
sour skiff
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i'm not gonna stress about if my letter talks about my writing skills tbh

lament dew
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i don’t feel like that would be grounds for rejection

sour skiff
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if my ap language teacher is writing about my proficiency in class i think that stands to say that i'm a good writer

lament dew
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i feel like if they needed more info they’d contact the recommender

sour skiff
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probably

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plus i submitted 8 whole ass essays to caltech they should be able to figure out my ability as a writer lmfao

#
  • common app
lament dew
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IB eng hl is one of the most intensive writing classes at my school if not the most intensive .___.

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so i hope it’s fine for him to just say that i’m one of the best in 11y

sour skiff
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i think you're probably good

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trying to perfect a letter of recommendation isn't in anyone's best interests anyways imo

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the more genuine and authentic the better

lament dew
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LORs don’t matter that much

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  • he got me into a few really good programs with similar recs
spice sigil
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I wonder how long Caltech spends on the entire application compared to other schools.

lament dew
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i haven’t seen my math rec and i’m not going to request it but i trust in it too

lament dew
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so probably slightly longer

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also they have professors review it

sour skiff
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they'll spend like 3 seconds declining mine

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jkjk

spice sigil
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Yeah, that’s why I’m curious about what the process looks like.

sour skiff
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at least 15

lament dew
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i talked to a caltech ao over the summer

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the professors provide feedback on the students under review

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although aos are the ones who make the decisions

sour skiff
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why do you have to go above and beyond man i haven't been west of Kentucky since i was 5

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wait no

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UW is

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far west

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i rescind my statement it's too late

spice sigil
lament dew
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i think it’s a bit more in depth since these professors are trying to scout out research assistants and whatnot

sour skiff
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i'd guess the professors look through and point out anything important or significant

lament dew
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yup

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i think it’s more to verify everything you’ve said is cogent with the field ur going into

spice sigil
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The AO i talked to this summertold me to submit as many LORs as I wanted as long as they were unique. I wish I had double checked with the website for this year, as I had 6 or 7 submitted

sour skiff
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god damn

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maybe i'll hit up my AP Calc teacher

lament dew
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6 or 7???

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lol

spice sigil
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I just looked through it again, 7

lament dew
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i might ask my calc teacher

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i had the same teacher from calc 1-3

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but didn’t ask for a rec because i never spoke much in class and knew it’d be generic since everyone asked for one who was a senior

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so i asked my ib maths teacher instead

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knows me better and for a bit longer so hopefully it works

sour skiff
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i'm just getting close to my ap calc teacher now because

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nobody in ap calc really understands it

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and he's pretty chill but very few people can follow his lessons

meager bison
vapid ember
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did ya get app fee waiver from caltech @versed field

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So you paid 75 dollars?

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BTW if you have any idea do they even offer app fee waivers?

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@versed field

spice sigil
lament dew
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I got an ATP fee waiver through applying to their fly in

meager bison
lament dew
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caltech doesn’t autoreject

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just another thing i heard

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they have no basis to reject off of

meager bison
meager bison
lament dew
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and i rlly don’t think 1.0 gpa ppl are going to apply to caltech given their supps

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you’ve gotta have strong stem ecs to fill those out in the first place

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and multiple of them

meager bison
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when if we're talking about outliers then one might just bs their way upto the min word count if they're really determined to be rejected

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btw im curious as to how one might submit 11*.5*/13 apps? @lament dew

lament dew
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oh uhh submitted cornell application waiting to do essay

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will be 12.5 today and hopefully 13 the day after

meager bison
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oh cool, gl

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the stanford learning idea prompt is so bad

lament dew
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i have made the executive choice not to apply to stanford because they don’t have a definitive astrophys program

meager bison
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i already used up something like that in the idea meaninful to you,
no i'd have to redo 2 essays

meager bison
lament dew
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yeah same here i actually applied as a physics major for a few colleges (including jhu) which have major astrophysics research going on

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i’m just not comfy because i can’t immediately find an astro department and they don’t have a physics + astro joint dept, but you can minor in space science

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so idk

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i felt like focusing my efforts on mit was a better option for today

meager bison
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well i just winged jhu tbh, they're so bad with aid I'd have to have 10 times my current stats to get the aid i mentioned in my css

lament dew
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probably same atp

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i’m hoping they’re a little less stingy for me

meager bison
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aren they need-blind for domestics?

lament dew
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yeah

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apparently need blind + meet full demonstrated need but aren’t generous with it

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per the npc id still be paying more than all of my other schools

meager bison
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yeah well colleges often pull those labels on just to get better rankings

lament dew
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yup

unreal kettle
unreal kettle
spice sigil
unreal kettle
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I’m afraid that’s confidential 😎

lament dew
#

I LUCKED OUT SO HARD

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YOU CAN SEE YOUR ADMISSIONS COUNSELOR IN THE BREAKROOM RIGHT

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so i did a quick search and MINE IS SUPER PASSIONATE ABOUT THE EXACT RESEARCH IM DOING

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and my background

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and my ethnic background

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAA i’m so happy

spice sigil
#

I just contacted Caltech's admissions office because I still haven't received the breakroom. They said they didn't have a record of my application.

I looked back at my common app and it turns out I submitted the payment 17 secs early, but the application was not submitted until literally 24 secs past the deadline...

lament dew
spice sigil
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Their webpage does say, "We know life happens. If you need an application extension for Regular Decision, email [email protected] as soon as possible."

lament dew
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you should do that

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see if they can still consider it

spice sigil
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Mine still only says submitted.

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MST

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In the common app, it says Application -- Submitted instead of Application -- Downloaded by college.

lament dew
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could be a commonapp issue

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i’d contact support too

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when was caltech deadline again

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jan 3

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ah yeah that makes sense

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they might download it tonight

unreal kettle
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Mine seems to really like astro robotics

lament dew
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that’s so cool :0

unreal kettle
lament dew
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i was so worried that my policy stuff wouldn’t be seen as “caltech worthy” in my supps but still wrote abt them and i’m glad i did

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:D

amber flame
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Today my caltech app finally said downloadedddddddd

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I got so worried

near finch
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If you are submitting a research paper, we require an additional recommendation from someone who can comment on the research experience that produced the paper. This recommendation can come from a supervisor, a mentor, an adult collaborator, or an administrator. Submitting research is not required as part of the application process.

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How do I send them the research recommendation?

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Oh, "Are you ready to submit your research? Do so here! Once you have uploaded your Research Paper, you will be prompted to fill out your Research Recommender page. This page will only be available for you to see if you have submitted your Research Paper already."

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I have done research with a faculty at a state college that we are currently in the process of writing on. Will I still be able to submit the research portfolio and research recommendation with just an abstract uploaded

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Or, does it need an actual research paper?

rare shadow
near finch
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Is the recommender also sent my response to the question/upload? Because I would like the recommender to focus on topics I include in that response, so I'm wondering if I should send them that separately or if it will be included for them to write the letter?

spice sigil
unreal kettle
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Yeah

rare shadow
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Why wouldn’t they focus on the topics in that response though? They will know it’s for a research supplement and will talk about their research experience with you, which is what Caltech wants

near finch
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Well, I also want to kinda know whether the research supervisor can see my responses as that's a little relevant to how I respond to that question.

meager bison
#

could anyone share the link for that creative protfolio section or tell me how to acces it?
is it the same update research/portfolio option or is it diff cuz i didnt see mentions of any artisitc portfolio?

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so i just make portfolio prefrence as yes and then go too...

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oh got it, thanks!

gritty harness
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when’s the teacher letters for because I have to ask for my teacher to write one

meager bison
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when i submitted my app i was certain that my supps ate but now they feel mid af 😦

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q

amber flame
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i'm so glad caltech is coming in clutch with the free portfolios, not whipping out 10 bucks again

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also i made a portfolio with 3 of my individual research abstracts and 2 of my youtube vids (with my satellite loops and simulations)

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same for you ofc- and yeah sure

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does the channel embed yoyube vid links

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yeah ofc

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it's one of the satellite imagery loops i sent

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it's infrared imagery

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Basically, I acquired a ton of 1-minute data from a certain site that dispenses GOES-16 mesoscale sector data, then I processed it using python and a software called "MCIDAS-V"

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ii think it was 2000 files?

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Long-tracked simulated supercell that produced 2 EF4s, 1 EF5, and several more EF2+ tornadoes. The cell was simulated in an environment similar to the environment that produced the violent, long-tracked El Reno EF5 on May 24th, 2011. The supercell lasted 4 hours before the simulation terminated normally. Sounding was taken from the Rapid Update ...

▶ Play video
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oh ok, one sec

meager bison
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oh god thanks guys, I just got a rad idea for a portfolio, it wont guarantee acceptance or anything but its gonna be memorablecoolcry

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ofc

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i dont think caltech has a 7% acceptance rate

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nah i did

amber flame
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tysm! lmao that's actually this thing called "3D vorticity" which is basically spin but visualized in 3 dimensions
Also, i watched your portfolio, it's actually really interesting

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i think what you did to capture your life outside just comp sci stuff was great

meager bison
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giving jee?

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well there are ppl who do both....like me

amber flame
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Good luck on your exams, gonna pass with flying colors

meager bison
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wh would it be

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well I agree with your perspective about drudgery of our system rn
but I just like the rigor, idc abt my rank as long as I score good

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indeed
although logistically it makes sense given our population

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yeah, i mean we all have perspectives and everyone lacks stuff
anyhow lets not carry this on and focus on u chich quirky essays💀

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imma screenshoting this to princeton lmao, they had that prompt

tall fable
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But imo everything is changing rn and it's improving

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Yeah true. I just feel I'd have more opportunities at BITs pilani CS than say some t50

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That's true

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yup 🙂

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For core CS I'd obv go for IITB or IITG over BITs but BITs has a good startup ecosystem which compensates

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Probably after JEE Adv

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So after Jun4

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Ahh makes sense. Thanks man!

empty wagon
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guys i'm not getting in i have no clue why i applied

unreal kettle
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You took your shot, that in itself is respectable :)

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The applications been submitted so we’ve just got to wait and see what happens now, in the end we’ll all be just fine

tall fable
spice sigil
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How do I access creative portfolio? I only see the maker portfolio, research portfolio, and additional information section.

lament dew
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Im kind of thinking about submitting an arts portfolio.

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i talked about arts and music in my commonapp

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would this help? i feel like if i submitted art i’d have to submit music too

spice sigil
# lament dew i talked about arts and music in my commonapp

I'm in a pretty similar situation to you. I started my common app with a hook related to drawing, transitioning to music, and then finally to math. I wanted to submit a music portfolio, but I wasn't sure how to/if it would take away from something else.

lament dew
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same here!

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i don’t think i’d be able to get to a good enough quality piano for long enough to record.

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my piano is old and out of tune :(

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but i have an arts portfolio that is pretty good

spice sigil
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For me, it is kind of flipped: I don't really draw anymore, what I was referencing was a piece I created around 8 years ago(which was made apparent). It was very good for my age(and won some state competitions), but that was for my age -- its not 'very good' now.

lament dew
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ah ye i have 9 years of piano awards but also major art ecs

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i help plan the county art festival every year & teach panels

spice sigil
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I would have a very good music portfolio, and I wanted to focus on that for a supplemental portfolio. But, since I referenced a specific piece, I was wondering if I should upload it just to prove I wasn't lying.

lament dew
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ohhh okay

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yeah i think you’re fine

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i did what you did for art

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i feel like it provides more context

spice sigil
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Okay, so would you recommend also uploading that drawing, and mentioning in the description that it is the drawing referred to in the common app essay?

lament dew
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No, not unless it’s particularly impressive

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but that’s just a personal thing

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i wouldn’t upload something from 8 years ago

spice sigil
lament dew
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we sadly don’t have one at the local CC and my state flagship is over an hour drive

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our school piano is out of tune too lol it sucks

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i have a piano teacher though

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i just don’t think i could record something long in one take

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and i’ve had conflicts with piano & work that required me to miss piano this week

spice sigil
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I mean, you do only get 2 minutes for the portfolio, but I don't know if you were planning to use montages of something longer.

lament dew
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it would be rlly cool if i could upload something like interstellar tbh

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that’s a shorter contemporary piece im fond of

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im wary to upload anything classical

spice sigil
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You could try to mix piano and art, transitioning between the two, or fading out of you playing to showing art if you don't want piano to be the focus.

lament dew
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i’ll see tbh, i think if i do choose to upload a portfolio, it’ll be art

spice sigil
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I was also wondering: where do we access the creative portfolio?

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Because, I could only find the maker and research portfolios. Do we just upload it to the additional information.

lament dew
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hmm i’m kinda confused too

meager bison
spice sigil
#

Is anyone here familiar with some video editing? I have to condense a 40-minute music performance into 1:50 mins for the Caltech portfolio, and have never edited a video outside of in python.

If so, I was wondering if there was free software that could work well? And, I was wondering how I could quickly create this kind of montage?

upper crater
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some aspects are hard to understand but it works well

spice sigil
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Yeah, I've heard of it, but I was under the impression it had a pretty steep learning curve.

upper crater
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not if ur just cropping videos id assume

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if its on mobile, capcut works too

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u could also use any online site meant for cropping videos

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or the editor built into windows or mac or mobile

spice sigil
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Yeah, I want to cut and mix parts from several clips. Thanks for the suggestion.

meager bison
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is it alright if I use clippings of another yt video (with credits) in a non-monetized yt video for my portfolio?

spice sigil
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Should I have underreported activities hours on the common app. I had tried to be as accurate as possible, but I just realized(it’s too late for most schools), they sum to around 55-70 hours 45wks/yr. This reporting is genuine x but I am starting to worry colleges may not believe it.

rare shadow
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That is pretty unbelievable for 45 wk/year. Do most activities overlap weeks?

spice sigil
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I had the lab at around 30 hrs/week. The thing is, that includes lab work which I often am able to do during classes at school. I probably shouldn’t hVe reported that. Also, robotics is a class at my school as well as a club, so hours for that overlap

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Also, those hours are the average for this year(where I get out of school at 12:00). Should I have averaged all years of participation?

rare shadow
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This year your school gets out at 12? Why is that?

For your lab, that’s year-round? For robotics, you shouldn’t have counted the robotics class

spice sigil
rare shadow
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I wouldn’t worry about it really since I doubt they would manually add up all the hours, unless they particularly notice large numbers across the board. But do check and be more conservative for other estimates

spice sigil
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Well, will it look like I lied previously if I decrease the hours for future applications?

rare shadow
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Who’s gonna see both applications

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I added hours for one of my activities because I was continuing through apps, so my early apps will show different hours than my regular apps

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A college is not gonna know what you previously listed in a separate applications

spice sigil
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Shoot, if I discount class mandated hours, Robotics goes from 16hrs/wk to 8hrs/wk

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Should I send an email to the AO explaining this, or not mention it?

lament dew
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if it’s part of your curriculum i would not include it as an ec

meager bison
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well I'd say emailing them over it would only draw more attention to it than it would normally get
although you could email if you think its too important

spice sigil
upper crater
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I had an ec 55 hrs per week

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Changed it from 32 wks per year to 16

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To make it more believable

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😭

meager bison
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isnt that 8+ hrs per day? if you're comfortable in sharing, what even was it?

upper crater
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half that time was over weekends lol

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and i did it during free periods in school as well

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and tbh 4pm to 12am is fairly accurate as to the amount of time id do

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55 is a significant underestimate

lament dew
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it was more like 100/wk because i was constantly working but all of my recs shortened it to “50+”

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so i just did as well

upper crater
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yeah mine was like 75+

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55 was lowest i felt comfortable going

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plus it was volunteer work so it shouldnt look too bad on me

unreal kettle
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i think all of my activates sum to quite a bit per week

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but that's mostly cause the activities are all year round but summers are where I dedicate the most time

amber flame
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You'll never guess wtf happened today

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While trying to edit my caltech portfolio at school, I found out that the school literally blocked the entire Caltech website

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Because it's marked under "entertainment"

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That was a fun support ticket to send

lament dew
upper crater
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My school blocked rits interview portal

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So i missed it

amber flame
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Damn can't apply to college anymore😶

lament dew
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ip address

gritty harness
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use a vpn

tall fable
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did caltech defer most applicants this yr like MIT or few like stanford?

jagged harness
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From my personal statement to supplements, all stem related

lament dew
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I didn’t see anyone in here deferred around REA time

lament dew
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so i think the pool should just relatively be rd people

upper crater
lament dew
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let me see if i did the things in there

tall fable
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she did math stuff and applied for a chem major

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interesting

lament dew
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like on their website they said “you will be miserable if you don’t have a passion for math”

upper crater
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she looks so tired

tall fable
lament dew
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i didn’t write about it tremendously but they’ll give me the ability to jump into jpl first year

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and that outweighs the rigor

empty wagon
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as weird as it is i like the rigor

lament dew
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me too tbh PI_blushi

amber flame
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Please, I go to a school that's open until 5 everyday and forces us to take 8 classes, rigor is my life☠☠

lament dew
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highest my school offers is IB math SL but i’ve gone through hell to complete calc 1-3 and discrete at a cc so i hope that helps a little bit

upper crater
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yeah

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my dad sent me that and was like

lament dew
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given their humanities thing i think i’m going to submit my art portfolio

upper crater
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"it hasnt changed since i went there. i wouldnt wish this upon my worst enemy"

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im probably not getting in i dont have the best grades

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mostly applied cuz i had a waiver

lament dew
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it kinda sucks that they’re not at least t/o

tall fable
lament dew
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do you start later??

tall fable
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mine was from 8 till 8 for 2 weeks

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portion completion

lament dew
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bro what

tall fable
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im an intl though

lament dew
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ah okay

amber flame
lament dew
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yeah my school is 7:25-2:15

amber flame
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We start at 7

meager bison
lament dew
tall fable
lament dew
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that’s insane

amber flame
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I'm usually there until around 6-7

meager bison
tall fable
lament dew
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bruh my suffering is being discounted tf 😞

8-8 or 7-5 is a full time job

amber flame
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That's why I had to move all my researching and stuff to summer

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There's no other time-

empty wagon
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mine is 7:25 - 1:30 with one 10 min break in b/w