MIT (2022-2023)

[indigo knoll]

I mean, the guidance counselor has to approve of the entire signing process, so the school is always at fault.

But yeah

I agree one or two isn't gonna break it and that a pattern of it has to happen before the blacklisting

[raw compass]

there was some intl dude with a sleazy guidance counselor who ED/REA'd to like 10 schools

[quasi grove]

i know a school where someone broke columbia ED in 2017, no one’s gotten in since

[slim charm]

apparently the excuse is "waiting for financial aid"

[raw compass]

idk what hapepned to him but probably nothing good

[timber urchin]

That's certainly one way to shotgun

Basically college admissions suicide though

Because of course harvard, yale, princeton, and stanford share their REA lists

[raw compass]

yeah

[timber urchin]

To prevent exactly that

[trail bone]

National Student Clearinghouse

if you try to break ED you will be caught lol

https://www.studentclearinghouse.org/

They don't have to contact each other, they just record students applying ED

and cross-check

[timber urchin]

Yup that's it

You can usually get out of ED by saying you cant afford because of new financial circumstances

But you can't ED multiple for sure

[indigo knoll]

shotgunnng ED: if you get into both "shots," the high recoil reciprocates and the shotgun end up blowing the head off. EDing multiple is just college admission suicide as Aloe mentioned

[timber urchin]

You could maybe pass off two as an accident

Say you selected the wrong start term

this is not advice

But any more than two is not going to end well

[raw compass]

Of course, they might just both reject you with no recourse after finding out

Then it'll all be for naught

[steep vine]

mit has a policy where if they find out then they'll rescind

[timber urchin]

That's why it's a risky game for a questionable boost in acceptance rate. I wouldn't recommend playing

If you don't have a hook, ED arguably doesn't help

[slim charm]

Well... Guess we'll see how this plays out.

Hook?

[timber urchin]

Athlete, legacy, URM, first gen

Basically a reason to think you'll get into other schools and go elsewhere if they don't take you ED

[slim charm]

Ahhh

[slim charm]

I heard that usually AOs set aside the eval process when they see the name appear on the clearing house.

[short folio]

Caltech

[weak thicket]

10 days 💀

[solemn hare]

6 days

[weak thicket]

🧢

this guy is crazy

lmao

[solemn hare]

ifykyk

[snow thunder]

💀💀

[weak thicket]

umich’27 (for now) gang lmao

[snow thunder]

Lolll réal

Bc it’s the sole definitive decision I’ve gotten so

[snow thunder]

😳

[weak thicket]

ahaha same

[snow thunder]

If mit comes this Friday I’m gonna have a heart attack

Doubt tho

[weak thicket]

out of my schools umich has the 3rd highest acceptance rate 🫣

[compact imp]

“mit basically comes out this week”

[snow thunder]

YES IT DOES💪💯🔥

I’m literally so numerically gifted

[compact imp]

i regret not applying to mit tbh 💔💔

[weak thicket]

10 = 6 guys

[snow thunder]

BRO FR

[weak thicket]

6<7

[snow thunder]

WHY DIDNT YOU

[grave river]

"ingoring factors of the order unity"

[weak thicket]

therefore 10 days is this week!

[snow thunder]

WE COULDVE OPENED TOGETHER

[snow thunder]

You’re missing out of round 1 of rd slaughter

[weak thicket]

#💪-chad-rejects gonna fill up 💀

[compact imp]

STOP TRYING TO CONVINCE ME TO OPEN IT W U

[compact imp]

untrue uchi is on the 10th

[snow thunder]

Really?

Did they confirm

[compact imp]

yep

[snow thunder]

SEND

I wanna see

[compact imp]

unexcited i am prob also getting uw decisions that day & then i have to go to a poetry conference

[next hinge]

this makes me so freaking scared and sad

[next hinge]

source: a blog post by a MIT AO

[iron heron]

being an ao must be a rlly horrible job a lot of pressure and negative feelings all around you

[raw compass]

nah

I got no sympathy

[grave river]

bro's already trained to be an AO

[raw compass]

Exactly

[snow thunder]

Tbh it’s comforting tho

It’s a good reminder that rejections don’t determine ur worth

[weak thicket]

wasn’t that 2006

“oh no! acceptance rate is 13%!”

[grave river]

makes me wonder, what about class of say '35 or '40
there rate would be what, 1.5~2%?

[weak thicket]

🥲

[grave river]

If its that arbitrary rn, it'd be a full on lottery by then

[weak thicket]

it pretty already much is cuz everyone applying, bar the actually cracked ppl, has something that makes them stand out, but the ppl who get in just click with AO

MIT especially because they reinstated testing

[timber urchin]

Tim

Is

Going

To

Admit

Me

[dapper sedge]

Baguette

[barren lily]

Tbh if you really are good it doesnt matter which school you go to, you will still do great things.

[ionic spruce]

two academically equal students, the one with the fat wallet wins. Not an MIT problem but a US-college system problem

[solemn hare]

but most of the colleges this discord aims for are need-blind

[amber turret]

Being wealthy means you’re likely to have connections and the means to access professors, programs, and more. Particularly the very information about the opportunities in existence and exactly how to pursue them

[barren lily]

Well based on that logic no one else besides wealthy people would ever be successful. That's kinda harsh against those who actually work hard and their work pays off and those who produce "wealth" by working hard. Just look at the background of our time's most remarkable scientists. You don't really have to be rich in order to discover a new element or win Fields medal or a Nobel Prize. At the end of the day you will be cherished for your work if it is of worth, no matter if you went to Stanford or just a random university. You cant buy discoveries, talent nor brilliancy.

[ionic spruce]

need blind for acceptance, but many get accepted and then realize the cost is prohibitive. Those with the money get to go

A lot of people fail upward almost entirely due to wealth or connections.

It's not impossible, but it is more difficult. And lack of opportunity early in life dooms many anyway.

[solemn hare]

most of the t20 have very good financial aid for low-income students, no?

[ionic spruce]

All I'm saying is money is a very real barrier nearly unique to the US, that prevents many from charting the (increasingly early) path necessary to get into these schools, and prevents many with talent from even applying in the first place.

[faint creek]

no money doesn't matter

unless you need fin aid

anyone who doesn't need aid is the same

in a college's eyes

[ionic spruce]

Tell them you can't pay and see how that goes

[faint creek]

and most schools are transitioning to need-blind so its slowly improving

[barren lily]

Well there are plenty of scholarships and you can almost study for free at Harvard or MIT so I dont think that's a valid point. Specially MIT which doesnt consider legacy

[faint creek]

and new programs like questbridge

are making the process more equitable

[barren lily]

that's literally what I did

[ionic spruce]

QB is really great, but EFC 0 excludes a lot of people still

[solemn hare]

yeah, i think i gave a hint that im poor in my extra commonapp essay thingy

[quasi rover]

Does the admissions office know if you applied for finaid

Just out of curiosity

[solemn hare]

idk about the second part but yeah money can be a barrier

[solemn hare]

they say they don’t but they can probably figure it out by your application

like, if your home address/zip code is in the bay area or another rich place

they can probably guess that your income is pretty high

and you also have your parent education on the commonapp

and this

[ruby stag]

they can also guess through your mf INTERVIEWERS

i’m still salty over my dartmouth guy asking what my family was like and what my parents do for work

[solemn hare]

😳

mine asked me my sat score and what my parents do lol

[slim charm]

I thought it was on pi day?

[weak thicket]

Harvard? Or Dartmouth

[amber turret]

I didn’t say that just because wealthy people have an advantage, everyone else fails

[ruby stag]

it’s on pi day

[ruby stag]

it’s way harder to climb the ladder as someone who’s not made aware nor has access to all of these opportunities early, but it’s still doable

[amber turret]

Yep

[solemn hare]

Harvard

[ruby stag]

“how much do you lift?”

my dartmouth guy asked about sports and i was like 🤨

[solemn hare]

see, that’s why dart sucks

[weak thicket]

Yeah I wonder y they ask for SAT

Mine asked too

I mean they alr have it don’t they

[solemn hare]

Yeah, but maybe the interviewer didn’t know that

🤷‍♂️

[weak thicket]

Lmao

[solemn hare]

I was just afraid he was going to think it’s still out of 2400 lol

[indigo knoll]

💀

[weak thicket]

Would’ve been hella awkward if someone went test optional

[indigo knoll]

is he old?

[solemn hare]

Not that old

he graduated in like 2008

[solemn hare]

Yep

[faint creek]

questbridge is lowkey op

like a limited pool and way more likely to get in

acceptance rates goes up by like 20% lmao

and full rides

[raw compass]

Low income is not an attractive hook (it's not something you would want to have)

[indigo knoll]

what about fg and hi

[raw compass]

fg is similar

It's harder for first gen kids to get the resources they need

[indigo knoll]

yeah I've experienced that firsthand with my parents not knowing anything about the whole college admission process

[solemn hare]

huh

[indigo knoll]

but thank god I discovered A2C in sophomore year, which allowed me to clutch up my application and reach some par of applying to MIT

[solemn hare]

I thought it’s harder to get into t20 through qb then it is if you just applied early

[raw compass]

I mean idk the rates but I'm pretty sure a higher rate of people match to a t20 vs regular rd

[indigo knoll]

how many people get into MIT through qb each year?

[solemn hare]

like 5

[indigo knoll]

what a bloodbath

[raw compass]

yeah it's better for other schools

tho I think that other guy is exaggerating the boost

[faint creek]

nah bruh way less comp, most people who have insane profiles are also rich

and in qb it is a limited pool

with guaranteed admissions

[solemn hare]

maybe

2019 (matched and attending):

MIT matches 10 students. 7.9% acceptance rate.

CalTech matches 6 students. 8.1% acceptance rate.

Yale, 55, 6.1%
UPenn, 49, 9.4%
Columbia, 55, 6.8%
Princeton, 73, 6.5%

data may be wrong though

idt they reveal it

[pine prism]

wait really

my friend got in through qb

lessgo 🥳

[solemn hare]

not sure but it’s prob close to that

"According to Schmill, MIT typically admits 10 students annually through the National College Match program, and “most, but not all,” of those students choose to attend MIT. From the entire QuestBridge program, MIT enrolls about 90 students each year."

[ruby stag]

there were 13 matches this year

source: my friend got in

[indigo knoll]

yall better solve this in 1 minute

👀

[solemn hare]

let u = denom

du/dx = 4x + 2

[ruby stag]

ez 1/u * 1/2 du

lnu

ln(2x^2 + 2x + 1) / 2

• C

[solemn hare]

2x + 1 = du/2

1/2 * intgral(du/u)

1/2 * ln|2x^2 + 2x + 1| + C

[indigo knoll]

yea nice

though no absolute value is need for the ln

[solemn hare]

true

[ruby stag]

I can do math faster than the harvard kid

L

[solemn hare]

😔

[pine prism]

u know how (sin x)/x is non integrable?

this problem doesn't care 🤣

[solemn hare]

This is how you know you’re in the MIT channel

literal nerds smh

[brazen coral]

Does mit waitlist a lot?

[ruby stag]

no

highly highly rejective

[brazen coral]

Ok

[solemn hare]

They also rejected everyone off the waitlist last year I’m pretty sure

[brazen coral]

💀

[solemn hare]

Like, they said they got the amount of people they wanted and basically closed the waitlist

[placid fractal]

yea these days waitlists are basically slow rejections

[indigo knoll]

I'm waiting for my dream to get crushed

[royal gull]

same!

my status is literally an MIT timer

[ruby stag]

6 days to caltech

yipee!

[timber urchin]

https://countingdownto.com/?c=4599525

Admit me 😩

[pine prism]

i didn't even bother applying to caltech bc i knew i'd be an autoreject

same for mit probably

[ruby stag]

for what bro

you’re not intl and you got a yale likely

[pine prism]

I don't have enough awards to get into mit 😦

[ruby stag]

also you = 3x USAMO

💀

[indigo knoll]

you don't need to win a nobel price

[pine prism]

everyone's an olympiad camper ;-;

[indigo knoll]

wait what?

[ruby stag]

you gotta be serious

[indigo knoll]

3 usamo??

[ruby stag]

yeah this guy is crazy accomplished

[indigo knoll]

and not enough for MIT?

[ruby stag]

that’s not true at all

[indigo knoll]

that is mindblowing

I didn't do a single STEM competition

[ruby stag]

I know a ton of people who go to MIT and none of them are as accomplished

[indigo knoll]

well maybe some

but no crazy awards

yeah exactly

[pine prism]

maybe i'll be lucky idk

[indigo knoll]

MIT doesn't want a class full of Olympiad winners

[ruby stag]

I don’t know where you got the misconception that everyone is an olympiad camper

that’s like ~100 of the 1000+ class

[pine prism]

i'm also from upper middle class and go to a pretty nice school so i feel like they would expect relatively stronger ecs from me

[ruby stag]

you have 3x USAMO

that’s pretty strong

[pine prism]

tru

[indigo knoll]

well,

[ruby stag]

they don’t expect 10000 hrs of research

[verbal idol]

when yale is your backup

[indigo knoll]

where else did you apply to?

lol

bro's too good for MIT and Caltech

[pine prism]

i shotgunned like half of the t20s

[ruby stag]

3x USAMO is enough for caltech

[weak thicket]

bro is scared of yield protection at mit 😆

[indigo knoll]

and your strategy is working pretty well

[ruby stag]

ok pelu question, does everyone at your school have USAMO?

if everyone at your school is IMO then I can see your concern

[pine prism]

wait no i'd be on the lower end of admits if i end up getting in

[weak thicket]

@pine prism what country if i may ask

[pine prism]

usa

[weak thicket]

oh

[pine prism]

no, i'm the only one who does comp math

[weak thicket]

who said u were intl

[ruby stag]

you gotta be fr

[indigo knoll]

what was your standardized testing scores?

that you submitted

[ruby stag]

“oh no I only have 3x USAMO”

[pine prism]

my stats are fine i think

i wish i had more research

[indigo knoll]

then not lower half, especially with the math awards

[ruby stag]

mit doesn’t care if you have a billion hours of research you legit have 3x USAMO

[pine prism]

wait math awards = starting early + a lot of free time bc i don't have to work a job or anything

anyone can get math awards if they're in the right environment

[indigo knoll]

well

[weak thicket]

honestly i’d agree w that

mostly

[indigo knoll]

not everyone is intelligent enough to win math olympiad titles

[weak thicket]

^

[ruby stag]

I don’t have any huge awards but I have ~500 hours of research to compensate, my ENTIRE STATE doesn’t even offer AMC and I still shotgunned MIT

[verbal idol]

also ngl I don't wanna discourage pelu but ik someone who had 4x USAMO and USACO Plat and got rejected from MIT w/ a yale likely so it's entirely a possibility he doesn't get it 💀

[weak thicket]

lmaoo

that’s crazy

[ruby stag]

it means nothing bro don’t discourage him

[pine prism]

exactly ;-;

[verbal idol]

I'm just sayin he may not be as auto admit as yall are saying

[ruby stag]

yea and his essays were like “I want to go to MIT because I’m entitled to.”

[weak thicket]

oh god

[verbal idol]

why are you assuming his essays

[indigo knoll]

but the possibility would've been there if pelu applied

[ruby stag]

i’m not assuming, i’m saying you’re not taking into consideration anything else

[verbal idol]

I know him very well

I'm takin quite a bit into consideration

[ruby stag]

there’s a ton of things out of our control

especially mit admissions process

they’re filling institutional needs

[pine prism]

yeah just manifesting rn

[indigo knoll]

like what

[frosty owl]

fr

[verbal idol]

yea all we can do at this point lol

[ruby stag]

good question

[verbal idol]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-db-shotgun-gif-21597283

[ruby stag]

none of us know

[indigo knoll]

what types of institutional needs do they want

fg?

[ruby stag]

they’re building a class

ask MIT

[frosty owl]

😭 pls let me in

[ruby stag]

hooked, olympiad winners, researchers, generally good students

people who will succeed at MIT

we don’t know

[indigo knoll]

MIT is honestly one of the only school I respect a lot

[pine prism]

^^

[timber urchin]

I have no respect for any school

Because 80k coa

[indigo knoll]

their admission blog is so darn welcoming and friendly

[verbal idol]

MIT honestly sucks tbh too much stress (me pre-coping to get rejected on pi day)

[pine prism]

curtis music school is free

just impossible to get into

[timber urchin]

And that ranch CC in nevada

[frosty owl]

what do yall think of caltech?

[indigo knoll]

and everyone there actually appears on paper to be the "ordinary" people you meet and want to be friends with

[timber urchin]

But where does the 80k even go?

[indigo knoll]

instead of Harvard's Crimson webpage writers being all obnoxious and stuff

[pine prism]

wait curtis is actually good though. it's the no. 1 music school in the us

[timber urchin]

No the ranch CC is good too

It's not like a joke school

[ruby stag]

caltech is my #1 and for the most part always has been

aside from my harvard phase

but i won’t get in until grad school

and i’m content with that

[indigo knoll]

I went from Cornell

to Columbia

to MIT

for my dream school

[compact imp]

yeah i mean i also know of like ppl who literally r imo medalists

and got deferred by mit

then got in regular but it just goes to show

[timber urchin]

https://www.deepsprings.edu/

[ruby stag]

I won’t get into MIT either

[compact imp]

what they want can be weird

[ruby stag]

“MIT is going to accept my 32 ACT rural headass” no they won’t

[pine prism]

they will

[ruby stag]

they don’t care they can find someone else who applied who lives out of a sewer with a 1600 and twice my experience

[pine prism]

32s not particularly bad or anything

[ruby stag]

i’m content with that too

[verbal idol]

@ruby stag fellow astro HYPSM shotgunners 🫡 🔫

[ruby stag]

yep

HYPM

[indigo knoll]

any engineering major applicants here?

[pine prism]

idt this person is very common lol

[compact imp]

i wonder what it’s like being an AO for these top schools and having to disconnect

[indigo knoll]

I feel like it's either comp sci or some science

[ruby stag]

a person who gets into MIT isn’t very common

but i’ll just wait and see atp

[indigo knoll]

erm

[ruby stag]

no use stressing over it

[pine prism]

ao sounds like a really bad job ngl

so repetitive

[ruby stag]

my fate has likely already been decided by MIT

[compact imp]

why no stan?

[pine prism]

i think everyone at this point, right?

[compact imp]

yeahhh i feel like the first year would be kinda fun but then it’d just be all the same

[ruby stag]

other side of the country, also didn’t like their astro program

[indigo knoll]

I wonder how much are they actually paid for six months of reading applications

[ruby stag]

only west coast school i applied to was caltech

[compact imp]

i mean i think they still do stuff during off season like recruiting n stuff right

[pine prism]

not stanford or berkeley?

[ruby stag]

no

berk is too expesnive for me

i can’t afford $70k/y

[indigo knoll]

My parents making me choose my state school

[compact imp]

the tiktoks of berkeley being hella overcrowded made me not apply LOL

[indigo knoll]

not for the cheaper tuition

but for its proximity to home

[pine prism]

regents?

[verbal idol]

although ngl MIT has random admissions sometimes
one of my best friends last year (asian male applying for CS) who literally ONLY did debate and some community service as ECs got into MIT (he had a 4.0 and a 36 tho), he said he just literally put down those 2 ECs and two random school clubs
so ig essays pulled through for him or something

[ruby stag]

if i get the scholarship i applied to at UofA i’ll probably be forced to go

[pine prism]

it's a crapshot but isn't everything?

[ruby stag]

it would mean i’d pay $20k for 4 years of schooling

total

housing, food, everything

which is fine but i still want to see RD results

[pine prism]

ah

[pine prism]

wait what that's wierd

[ruby stag]

i would take out loans for mit or caltech or northwestern

[pine prism]

how can u have no cs ecs and apply for cs

💀

[compact imp]

tbh i feel like that’s better than those kids who have 10 cs ec’s but try to sneak by as a classic major like cmon…

[pine prism]

LOL

[compact imp]

at least ur being honest 😭

[ruby stag]

“i actually really like MIT’s classics program! 🤓” USACO plat

[pine prism]

someone in my school last year got into harvard for comparative lit and transferred right away to cs

...

[compact imp]

LMFAOOO

[indigo knoll]

I should've done that this year by applying for East Asian studies and later transfer to engineering lol

[waxen gorge]

i would also like to say that the vast majority of people accepted to prestigious universities for stem majors do not do research

so you should not be concerned if you haven't done something like this or whatnot

[verbal idol]

did their ECs complement comparative lit?

[pine prism]

yup

Editor in chief of school newspaper

[short folio]

Not an avg a2cer giving me imposter syndrome on MIT channel

[waxen gorge]

that's so funny to me

oh no i think you'll be fine personally

it's one thing to do a one off report thing

but if you've done a lot of research or focused on it

it will be much bigger

[compact imp]

i feel like sm research is BSed like parenfs do it for them or they just nepo their way into a lab/paper

ofc actual research done is very impressive and cool tho

[ruby stag]

summer programs + internship programs >

nepo research can suck it

[waxen gorge]

i thin kthere is a small downside in that research can also be random, it's sometimes reliant on cold emails working

nepotism

[verbal idol]

“A novel approach to [insert identifying medical diagnosis] using convolutional neural networks”

“Machine learning”

Oh nah I just looked up this years STS finalists and look at this man

NAAAAWWW 💀💀💀💀💀💀

ISEF ‘21 ‘22 means winning the entire thing

[ruby stag]

nah it doesn’t

[verbal idol]

Yes it does
I’m saying in this case

[ruby stag]

source:

she was also rsi, i think

she followed me and a bunch of other mutuals

[verbal idol]

Look up 2021 isef winner

[ruby stag]

wow

[verbal idol]

It’s this person lol

[ruby stag]

is this what isef is like

it just seems like they threw together a bunch of words and worked on smth with a bunch of adults

[verbal idol]

I’m just saying that in this case they’re using ISEF ‘21 as a means to say they won the whole competition

Idk what that insta person is using it like

But they didn’t win 4 ISEFs in a row lol

[verbal idol]

A lot of it is nepotism anyways

/ OP mentor

[ruby stag]

my state doesn’t do isef

[compact imp]

oh i thought isef ‘xx just meant like attending it

right

[ruby stag]

it sucks

yeah

that’s what i thought too

[verbal idol]

Yeah it usually does but this person won it lol

[ruby stag]

i feel like there’s many different types of people mit accepts

hence not all people are ISEF winners

i also think there’s a misconception here that you have to be cracked to get into mit

[waxen gorge]

you do need good grades and gpa but beyond that.. being better than other people onlt means you're being compared to other very cracked people. and there are tons of them. mit has to accept from a range and variety of people, else theyd just accept everything person w top rewards and achievements and that dude who made a nuclear reactir

[verbal idol]

You don’t rlly have to be “cracked” necessarily for anywhere but I do think you need some sort of X factor, whether that be a personal detail or experience about you or something that makes them wanna admit you, which arguably is sometimes harder or more rare than being “cracked” in the traditional sense

[ruby stag]

yeah that’s very true

[compact imp]

i think it’s just like square and rectangle stuff where like most super accomplished ppl will go to mit/hypsm/whatever but not all people there are that level of super accomplished

[verbal idol]

I think in general though MIT does have a much higher proportion of cracked ppl

[compact imp]

like maybe 90% of the most cracked kids go to HYPSM but that only makes up like 20% of the population

[compact imp]

i agree

cuz no legacy

[verbal idol]

Also just the culture

[compact imp]

yeah like a very rigorous school is just like. you have to attract cracked kids who u think can handle the workload

[verbal idol]

Workload seems very like

Idk

I think HYPSM realize most people applying can handle their workload

Even if they have slightly lower stats

(I’m coping)

[waxen gorge]

Cornell:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/844213715544834079/942108090994667560/affafbc48423be13d599aab08feb70a970759ce5.gif

[barren lily]

that's what i tell myself, 100% why i've never got passed honorable mentions, didnt wanna ruin my chances ... 💀

[barren lily]

yeah a friend of mine who made it to IPho 3 times and 2 times to IOAA was rejected from MIT but got into Oxford

[waxen gorge]

Imo from my perspective and not any basis or evidence, it also seems like olympiad winners and etc are the high achievers who rely on winning these competitions and building a good resume to get into these schools that might often burn out and drop out or worse because they're just tired from high school & have to endure these harsh rigorous curriculums

[ruby stag]

not sure that’s true

over probably not being as impactful in their community and maybe not bringing that to mit

[waxen gorge]

probably that

[ruby stag]

I can’t wait for the MIT official chanceme in 8 days

[weak thicket]

there’s no shot bruh i was just looking at her profile yesterday 💀💀

4x isef is crazy even if it’s just participating

[short folio]

Do regional fairs allow 4x participation?

[ruby stag]

😭 she’s cracked but she’s also super nice

likes all of my posts

[weak thicket]

sheesh

i don’t follow her lol

i j have 3 mutuals w her

[ruby stag]

ah

[weak thicket]

3 isn’t enough to request 🌚

[ruby stag]

get better

i didn’t request

she found me somehow

she followed a bunch of my friends and I

[weak thicket]

my mutuals

with her

r so cracked

one in mit one in stanford one in princeton

😭

[ruby stag]

yes she spam followed a bunch of RSI/SSPers

[ruby stag]

networking

😳

[weak thicket]

😭

do yk where she’s going to college lol

[ruby stag]

no

she’s probably waiting for rd

i haven’t like actively spoke to her

i assume she’s very busy

[short folio]

• 7x olys

how can a person be so efficient

[amber turret]

Wow

Oh hey I sent that person a connection request a very long time ago and they never accepted 🥴

[barren lily]

you guys actually have social media

[ruby stag]

don't you tho

i mean you're here on discord

that's at least one

[barren lily]

i meant like where you post stuff like pictures etc, a shit ton if my pictures are all over the internet so i dont really know what i should put on instagram haha

[amber turret]

LinkedIn is different tho

[ruby stag]

i have a few pictures up but it's more-so my experiences

a few pictures from NM, a few art pieces, a ren faire pic

you dont need to post yourself at isef

[next hinge]

i have an instagram account for my blog lol

[grave river]

I just use mine to post my card stacks

[gritty inlet]

Do we know what time exactly MIT is releasing decisions

[timber urchin]

Because it's a weekday, almost certainly 6:28pm

[ruby stag]

tomorrow they send an email

[gritty inlet]

Oh God

First thing I'm going to wake up to on 15 March then because timezones

[timber urchin]

That's a good thing. Most of us will suffer all day awaiting our rejection

[royal gull]

same

except i wont be able to sleep to begin with

[royal gull]

bad thing for me, I can't sleep at night when I know in 4 hours MIT gonna come out

so its longer than a days wait 💀

[timber urchin]

Did you apply EA?

[timber urchin]

If so, or perhaps even regardless, join me in accepting the results beforehand

[royal gull]

yes

then deferred

only US interview I have had

[timber urchin]

Perhaps the interview is a good sign as an intl, but there's a 1.8% acceptance rate for students in our situation (deferred EA to accepted RD). Just use a rejection simulator and enjoy your sleep 😉

[steep vine]

tbh isn’t the 1.8% based off a single year of MIT admissions

[royal gull]

I am not an oly kid

[steep vine]

does anyone have like a net rate

[royal gull]

almost all indian kids who are accepted are oly kids

so I am already prepared

[timber urchin]

Last year, I believe. But nothing suggests MIT is getting appreciably easier to get into. With a sub 4% RD rate, you know it has to be even lower for deferred kids, because MIT already passed them up once

I'm glad it's not worse than 1.8%

[royal gull]

I just hope MIT does good with non oly int'l kids

cuz if they do, I have some hope since my interview went ultra fucking great.

But ik they love oly kids

so no hope

[small forge]

Is it possible to get into MIT with no interview?:/

[verbal idol]

Yes

[tame stag]

Even for international students?

[royal gull]

e x c e p t india and china

interesting

but at the same time, in those times interviews were based on requesting it yourself, not offered interviews

or no wait was that some other university?

[royal gull]

selective interview?

[covert sentinel]

Wait what does ec mean in this case

[steep vine]

lmfao what kind of source is this

random person says they’re on MIT educational board in 2016 and y’all are just taking it as fact 💀

critical thinking is an important skill

[solemn hare]

You’ll find out soon

MIT values personal character and qualities a lot so I’d be surprised if they admit people without interviewing them first

Of course maybe some people get in without interviews but I think the vast majority who are admitted have been interviewed

[dusky tide]

its probably very unlikley

[devout field]

right but like if you don’t get interviewed because you literally aren’t offered one it shouldn’t hurt you

like idk, think that’s what they say too

[ruby stag]

in select countries they physically cant interview

so it definitely makes sense for it not to affect you

HOWEVER, it definitely significantly helps you

because it gives MIT another sense of who you are (why they try to interview so many people) since personal qualities are so important

but I think you could 99% still convey that in your essays

idk the convo I had with my interviewer was really meaningful too

[grave river]

agreed, specially if someone (which covers a bunch of applicants ig?) is more expressive on the conversational side, interviews could be a major plus to the essays

[ruby stag]

he took 6 years to graduate and changed career paths, and I basically finally broke the camel's back asked "how did you deal with the struggle at mit and what help did you receive? as someone who doesn't have access to a lot of the higher level preparatory competitions and material other applicants may have, how would I fare at mit and what should I do if i struggle too?"

[ruby stag]

yeah this was a big upside for me

we had an hr convo about puzzles and space and support at mit and how to get opportunities and he walked through the entire interview process on his part and mine :)

we talked a lot about mentoring too and i directed him to some opportunities ive been working on/with which might be able to help his army vets hes working with

i think that in itself was cool

[grave river]

aye thats so cool

[ruby stag]

i dont rlly think ill get into mit but it was nice meeting new people especially ppl who arent the typical "i never struggled through mit just get better"

he was really understanding

[iron heron]

my interviewer was kinda abrupt he asked me why mit and i talked about loving all the things they offer and mentioned their diversity in education and i refrenced the glass blowing class they offer and he said “so you wanna go for the glass blowing class?”

[ruby stag]

ok gtg lunch

[barren lily]

I watched an interview with internationals at MIT and literally everyone had a olympiad medal, mention or was a participant or had done some crazy research thing like cure-cancer level or had a such a successfull business that they literally had to take a gap year to develop their company

[royal gull]

me getting an Interview lowkey false hype

lol

[grave river]

did you get one? i mean not just mit but any, just asking

[royal gull]

literally just MIT in the US

outside of US CUHK

rest nothing

[barren lily]

Yeah i get that too (also international) but it's not like Harvard becase they apparently review your application before offering an interview. MIT interviews you if they have someone available.

[grave river]

cool

[royal gull]

ik

[royal gull]

thats why I said I got no hopes from MIT

[small forge]

my teacher's recommendation letter won't appear on aplication portal

[half basalt]

MIT Regular Action decisions will be available online on Tuesday, March 14, at 6:28 PM ET.

New blog is up

[ruby stag]

email?

[meager skiff]

https://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/mit-ra-decisions-2023/

[half basalt]

I love this year’s pi day video

[half basalt]

Should be out soon

[royal gull]

hm

[royal gull]

3 more minutes

based on when I got the email during EA atleast

[half basalt]

Aand the checklist is gone

[ruby stag]

kk

oh shit

😭😭

[ruby stag]

NOOO LOL

THE HARBRINGER OF DEATH

[royal gull]

2 mor minutes

*more

huh nvm its not out

guess the email timing has no relation with what it was earlier lol

https://youtu.be/u7BZxpoH2b4

Lmfaooo

[small forge]

eeeeeeee

[half basalt]

when they show the admit letter with the congratulations 🥲

[dusky tide]

shut up with anime

[ruby stag]

MITVANGELION

[solemn hare]

vijit simping in the comments

[ruby stag]

“demonstrated interest”

[royal gull]

ong

[royal gull]

exactly!

AJKHFKAJSHFKAJSFH GET ME IN

MIT or Caltech pls let me in

[small forge]

this decision date announcement stuff is so funny to me

like i knew the date the whole time, but seeing it announced still gave shivers

[half basalt]

I’m still waiting for the email tho it’s gonna say the same stuff as the blog 😭

[royal gull]

Says literally the olympiad winner 😭

[royal gull]

Lemme make that ratio from 1:20 to 1:10 of non oly non jee kids who got in

Keshav Gupta(MIT '21), Kabir Mohammad(MIT '21), and Arushi Majumdar(MIT '23)

Did some more digging, there have been a few kids in older (already graduated classes) who got in

the class of 23 person is the person I was talking about doing the 1:20 ratio lol

so they should be running out of non oly kids, lemme be the one non oly kid to get in 😔

[barren lily]

That's literally the case for all internationals, it's not an India-special thing just look at China, Taiwan or other countries

[royal gull]

true but there is still like 2-3 non oly kids

We aint got a non oly admit from India in ages

the only time it was non oly was when they had a high JEE rank (which is basically an oly equivalent)

[barren lily]

like you still have people who get in, some counries have like 0 accepted several years in a row and that's 100% understandable, there are plentyyyyyy of students from India, you are not only competing inside your country (which a shit ton of people 100% more than those you compete with for MIT spots) you are also competing with all other internationals AND domestic students for the same spot. If something it's only natural that they take in olympiad students.

[royal gull]

true on that count

I think it also has some stuff to do with number of applicants from a country as well tho

[ruby stag]

isn’t it like that because:

• mit doesn’t need diversity from other countries ex. hooks don’t apply
• it’s harder to get substantial research and prove that it is substantial outside of the US
• it’s easier to win olys in smaller countries outside the US (ex: many countries in europe are like state sized)

like saying you didn’t have access to opportunities but are still a strong student doesn’t matter if ur intl because at that point why not just do mit grad and go in your country for undergrad

[royal gull]

I will go to my safety before I go to IIT bombay

ngl

As if I would even get into IIT bombay

I will get into MIT before I get a high enough rank in JEE to get into any IIT

[barren lily]

Most of the MIT rejection things i have read are more like "if you are really good, you will do great things even outside of MIT"

[ruby stag]

iirc India and China both have FANTASTIC tech schools

[royal gull]

I never gave the JEE and don't plan to though lmao

Its subjective ofc but I dislike the schools over here alot

[barren lily]

im literally planning to do masters at tsinghua

[royal gull]

they are very academic, less practical less networking, more nerds and less creativity

[ruby stag]

tsinghua is amazing

[royal gull]

and little to no passion

[barren lily]

tsinghua X KTH

[royal gull]

which makes sense since our exam for CS is physics maths + chem

[royal gull]

half the kids studying CS are those who did great in the exam but never touched CS in their life before admissions and are only in it for the money and odn't have any actual skills or passions

[ruby stag]

MIT China

[royal gull]

all of these factors combined just make me not wana attend an Indian top instute

will rather attend Utah over them

[royal gull]

looks beautiful

[royal gull]

tru

[barren lily]

MIT Sweden

[royal gull]

imma be honest

I just need an acceptance

just any

[half basalt]

ITS HERE

[royal gull]

thats not a safety and not conditional

[half basalt]

The mail

Finally

[analog mauve]

just got a heart attack from the email

[weak sinew]

Yea 6:28pm est

[weak sinew]

Whats the meaning of the number this time

[waxen gorge]

tau

[ruby stag]

3.14 * 2

[weak sinew]

Ah

[waxen gorge]

tau is like pi if it wasn't horrible

[ruby stag]

🤨

[barren lily]

Tbh, you can see it like that, if you qualify for top indian schools, you can say that you have a nice shot at MIT but if you are not even qualified for top schools in your own country, it's kind of a red flag. (At least academically). Kinda need to show that you excel in your own system before trying to convince them that you can excel in their system.

[weak sinew]

.

[iron heron]

6k fewer is crazy

[ruby stag]

woah where is this

[royal gull]

huh? where

[ruby stag]

oh wait

was that sent to your counselor

[royal gull]

probs

[iron heron]

i get the emails as if i’m a counselor cause i called and they told me to put myself as a counselor so i wouldn’t have to request the letter cause my counselor sends it through scoir

[ruby stag]

💀💀💀

based

[half basalt]

Makes sense coz of no TO

[iron heron]

it feels illegal but they told me to do it so oh well

[ruby stag]

wait holy hell

6k fewer apps

YIPPE

4.8% overall admit rate

🎉

[royal gull]

whats the intl looking like is all I care about

[clear gulch]

same

[weak sinew]

They admit like 20 students internationally

[clear gulch]

wow only 27k applied! Dang thats so low compared to Harvard's 60k and Berkeley's 121k. Maybe I have a shot at MIT after all 😄

[timber urchin]

4.9% not too bad

[half basalt]

Do u think this means a higher defer to acceptance rate

[timber urchin]

Probably slightly. Because I'm not sure if EA had that many fewer applicants this year

[indigo knoll]

I WANT TO GET IN

[half basalt]

Wait but thats 16k RD applicants

More than EA

[timber urchin]

I think more of the dropoff was in RD

[royal acorn]

wait

6k fewer is MIT????

that's wild

[indigo knoll]

which is normally the case

[timber urchin]

Still like 2% for EA --> RD probably

[half basalt]

oh I thought it was closer

[royal acorn]

how the heck did mit drop 6k applicants this year

[timber urchin]

Test requirement

[half basalt]

That’s better than the intl admit rate XD

[timber urchin]

And it already has fewer because it doesn't use the common app

[timber urchin]

True

[royal acorn]

ohhh

[indigo knoll]

I'm anticipating a rejection 🥲

[royal acorn]

SAME

pls prove me wrong mit by letting me in x

[indigo knoll]

Intl admit rate is probably the same as last year's

[half basalt]

Yeah

Around 130 (1%)

[royal gull]

[royal gull]

9k EA

*12k EA

8k of them deferred

[timber urchin]

What was ea number last year?

[royal gull]

in other words, defer kids still have a less acc. rate prolly

[half basalt]

Around 14k i think

[timber urchin]

So a smaller % dropoff vs RA

[royal gull]

does EA-> RD intl go higher or lower 🫠

hoping they defer less int'l (%) EA than americano (%) kids

[half basalt]

Didnt they only take like 5 intls during EA

[royal gull]

so I have a shot 🤨

their class size is like 20 for Int'l

I mean not a shot, but not a worse shot either

[half basalt]

No its around 120-150

[indigo knoll]

should've been like 60

[royal gull]

I keep forgotting this is not caltech

[indigo knoll]

like less than 5% of the domestic admitted students

[royal gull]

this is MIT

[royal acorn]

me if i become one of the three-five uk students who get into mit

[royal gull]

they have a 1100 class size not 250 class size

[royal acorn]

i'm baking my friends brownies

[royal gull]

lol

I am gonna go nuts if I get in

[small forge]

I’ll def get in

[royal gull]

I am 80% sure no one from my state in India has gone to a T20 for undergrad in the last decade

[ruby stag]

stop jinxing urselves yall

[royal acorn]

i ain't getting in

but i would have liked to have gone

[half basalt]

Ive personally only seen one intl get in during this year’s EA. So i assume its really low

[royal acorn]

postgrad here we go babyyyy

[royal gull]

Imma keep sure that streak doesn't end 🤩

[ruby stag]

hopefully since admit rate is 5% overall admit rate for women is 10%

😎

[timber urchin]

That's what CDS suggests

[ruby stag]

would be hilarious if i got into MIT

[timber urchin]

I should have applied as a woman

[half basalt]

They probably admit most intls during RD

[timber urchin]

But all my LORs say "he"

[half basalt]

Like more than 80%

[royal acorn]

imagine being in a state school but being five minutes away from the uk's largest mit feeder school

[royal gull]

I have heard that MIT EA deferals are less for Int'ls, and that MIT interviews are semi-selective for int'ls but who knows. Probs just getting my hopes up

[royal acorn]

fml hopefully they see the city and don't bother checking the school name and let me in that way 😭

[timber urchin]

UK has an mit feeder?

For all 2 students who get in?

[indigo knoll]

I mean, the international students composes of around 10% of MIT's total undergraduate population, so theoretically at least 40-50 international applicants should have gotten admitted.

[half basalt]

I don’t think so..Selective interviews go against their brand in a way

[indigo knoll]

for the world

[royal acorn]

tbh biggest mit feeder school = two-three a year so not a huge amount but

[indigo knoll]

not just like India

[royal acorn]

compared to the total amount of intls it's crazy

[royal acorn]

yeah! i think 3-5 uk peeps get in each year

[royal gull]

true

[royal acorn]

and they alone get 2-3 in each year usually

[quasi rover]

bro wtf women have that much higher acceptance rate?

god damn

[royal gull]

at the same time these universities aint always honest on their webpages however evidence says MIT probably is being genuine with that

[ruby stag]

so that year it was a 6.05% admit rate for women and 3.06% for men

[royal gull]

lemme email them telling them that I am trans now

[quasi rover]

For real bro

[indigo knoll]

I am trans/pans/gay/lesbian and homophobic

Dichotomy of orientations

[ruby stag]

less women apply to tech schools

caltech it’s even higher

[weak thicket]

SAT required makes sense

[ruby stag]

at mit the admit rate is 2x for women at caltech its 2.5-3x

[half basalt]

For caltech its an insane difference

[ruby stag]

i think it might actually be more for caltech

[royal gull]

part time

huh

interestingg

[timber urchin]

100% should have applied as a woman 😭

[iron heron]

i applied as nb so hopefully that helps 😭

[ruby stag]

so ok when the overall admit rate was 4% the admit rate for women was 6%

so now that it’s 5

it should be 7.5% for women

and 3.75% for men

roughly

did caltech release a total %

[meager skiff]

Which school?

[royal acorn]

they're called wincoll

our PM went there!

[meager skiff]

Winchester send 2 students a year? Even Eton only sends like 1 every few years

[slim charm]

That's what I think. So really the real competition is the same.

[weak thicket]

exactly

[slim charm]

I figure that's why they did it. They still get the students they want with less work. No on is going to think MIT is less prestigious because of an acceptance rate of 4.9 v 3.x

[ruby stag]

are people really that scared to apply to mit over test scores

there’s not more people applying with higher tests scores

i assume it’s the same as it was during covid

[slim charm]

No. I think people who had low scores like > 1500 were applying and if you look MIT admits very few people >1500 But if it's test optional, why not apply? So apparently it's about 6000 ppl who took a shot anyways.

just a guess.

funny enough, if you get waitlisted your chances are about 5% so still about the same.

[clear gulch]

so 6000 ppl have less than a 1500?

[ruby stag]

i don’t think that’s true at all

[slim charm]

guessing.

[ruby stag]

lol

[dusky tide]

if u have <1500 it lowers chances heavily

at MIT

[ruby stag]

no it doesn’t

below 700 yes

[slim charm]

probably more than 6000

[dusky tide]

def does

[ruby stag]

if you have below 720 math probably lowers your chances significantly

[dusky tide]

720 math is like a joke

[clear gulch]

what about for english?

[half basalt]

people dont realise that about 25% of adMITs have a 1530 or less. That also includes some people with 1400s and at least one person with something in the 1300s

[ruby stag]

there’s an article somewhere where mit says 720+ for M is seen as similar (but 790+ def gives a boost)

[dusky tide]

they want 800

[clear gulch]

they want IMO kids

[dusky tide]

well yeah

but usually those are bots

[barren lily]

Crys in gollum

[dusky tide]

I wouldnt be surprised if a lot of <1500s are like 650 english 800 math

[ruby stag]

650 english is a joke 🗿

you have to be able to read and write to get into mit

[dusky tide]

25th percentile is 790

yeah

[clear gulch]

790 is 50th percentile

[ruby stag]

100% of people who submitted SAT had a math of 700+

[meager skiff]

Yeah I checked, they only sent 1 person to MIT total in the last few years. AFAIK there isn't such thing as an international feeder to MIT, too selective

[dusky tide]

no

i mean actually

[half basalt]

0.1% w a 500-599 EBRW

[ruby stag]

so yes, if you have below a 700 math, your chances are pretty much shot

[dusky tide]

yeah

25th percentile is 780

[half basalt]

who is that lucky

[dusky tide]

if ur in a bad demographic i assume they want a higher score tho

[ruby stag]

bad demographic?

[dusky tide]

for college admission

[clear gulch]

Asian

[ruby stag]

oh

hmm my friend got a 1500

i think she got 760 R 740 M

[dusky tide]

thats wild

[ruby stag]

and she is the only asian from our school

who applied to mit

[dusky tide]

thats reject

what mit student has higher english

[ruby stag]

💀

lol what

[clear gulch]

they should have applied to Harvard or Stanford, 740 is too low for math

[ruby stag]

my ACT i had a 35E

she is questbridge

[dusky tide]

thats act tho

i think everyone gets 35 act english

[ruby stag]

that’s not true either i don’t think

[dusky tide]

well obv

ll

lol

[ruby stag]

35 E is something like ~780

[clear gulch]

i have a 790 M, but a trash english score, will they accept me if I got good English grades in school?

[dusky tide]

depends what english score

[clear gulch]

um...

[dusky tide]

i dont think mit looks at english grades

[ruby stag]

if you have like a 400 english

💀

[clear gulch]

630 💀

[ruby stag]

😐

bros illiterate

i’m jk

[dusky tide]

yeah ur probably gone

[clear gulch]

😭

[dusky tide]

no offense

[ruby stag]

but like how is your difference that big

[clear gulch]

um, I dont read books

and i like math

[dusky tide]

i dont read books either

[clear gulch]

i cant focus when reading

[ruby stag]

the initial SAT i accidentally sent to MIT had a 720M and the most recent ACT i had a 32M so we’ll see how this plays out

[dusky tide]

lmao

i actually cant focus when reading

[barren lily]

Imagine even taking SAT

[dusky tide]

mit wants 34+ math

[ruby stag]

imagine not reading books

[ruby stag]

nah i’m good

🥱

[dusky tide]

even out of recruits

they say 34+

[ruby stag]

i’m good

[dusky tide]

im good

3.96% admission rate

[clear gulch]

if i got gold in IMO, will they overlook my SAT?

[ruby stag]

i’m good

[ruby stag]

i can’t tell if this is sarcastic or not

[dusky tide]

no @clear gulch

[royal acorn]

yeah usually! according to a teacher there ik they usually send one-three with two most years iirc

[half basalt]

h o l i s t i c a d m i s s i o n s

[barren lily]

Stop being childish, IMO medalist are rejected and you think a 2 point test result will compensate for a bad application. Grow upp, you can't even get in with 1600 if you suck in general

[ruby stag]

ok thank god this mf is international

[clear gulch]

hm, fine, what if my dad donates a $75 million building?

[ruby stag]

can’t be competing with y’all

[ruby stag]

ask @dusky tide he already did

[dusky tide]

totally i did

[barren lily]

I'm literally in a call with a priest rn, desperate time and desperate solutions

[ruby stag]

bro gollum they let you apply to mit without a test score ur good

[small forge]

What's MITs yield

[ruby stag]

like 80%

84

[clear gulch]

thats what they want you to think. they probably spend 2-3 seconds after looking at a <1500 on one's app.

[clear gulch]

what does ur dad do?

[dusky tide]

Probably yeah

[ruby stag]

ur actually joking

[small forge]

So maybe 1300 admits ig

[ruby stag]

💀

[barren lily]

I emailed them and ask that like 4 times because I didn't wanna waste my time on my application 🤡

[dusky tide]

nah but it means something when a school requires scores

[ruby stag]

i know a few 1500> admits from EA

and none of them were IMO

[dusky tide]

probably had something else going for them

[clear gulch]

My friend's friend got into MIT, and he was IMO

[ruby stag]

they had similar research to me and were in similar situations

so idk

[dusky tide]

bro MIT isnt really looking for IMO

[half basalt]

there's a good chunk of people who get in because of their essays tbf

[dusky tide]

yeah

people who are smart and actual people

[clear gulch]

i doubt that, essays are just an alternative to the SAT writing section

[ruby stag]

this is true

[dusky tide]

bro what

lol

[ruby stag]

you have 27k insanely smart people ur not differentiating by sat score

[clear gulch]

true, they are looking for IMO and IOI

[half basalt]

plus personality is the only "very important" in their cds

i forgot what the actual category was

[dusky tide]

Character/personal qualities

[half basalt]

oh yeahh

[royal acorn]

pls let me in mit

[solemn hare]

@ruby stag

[royal acorn]

i will name my first-born mit (subject to availability and remembrance and spouse approval)

[clear gulch]

well even if they reject me, its their loss. After I develop teleportation and a functional Iron Man suit, they'll be begging me to do my graduate studies there

[royal acorn]

see i'm baso cut out for sloan school of management with that many exemptions

[solemn hare]

and everyone else in this chat

[clear gulch]

shut it, Harvard person.

[royal acorn]

personal qualities

i talked my interviewer's ear off

[ruby stag]

personal qualities >

[royal acorn]

which is like the average mit student

so

be so enthusiastic that you forget to drink the hot choccy they bought you until they actually remind you to

😭 please let me in i'm desperate

[clear gulch]

if you dont get in dw, theres always Caltech

[royal acorn]

i didn't apply 😭

i should have though

i literally wrote my personal essay on tbbt

should've been like BAZINGA, auto-admit right there

pfff imagine starting your essay with bazinga in bold could never be me oh wait frick

eh i talked more about sheldon and leonard

well, leonard

omg maybe p'ton will take me

[half basalt]

oh lmao i totally misread that

[royal acorn]

tbh i just hope anyone takes me 💀 but mit would be the best ever ever

[ruby stag]

oh my god

the pi day video

is so good

[royal acorn]

it's a banger

[half basalt]

ikr

[ruby stag]

pls i should’ve submitted an art portfolio

[royal acorn]

one freakin week to go