#ALL UC MEGATHREAD ๐ป๐ฎ๐ด๐ป๐ฑ๐ถ๐ฑ๐ค ๐ (2022-2023)
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I only got like Freshman 10 lol
like unless the weather is rainy or someth I'd take my time walking outside
I thought UCD was like a biking/waling school
it is
Like its hard to have a car
how'd that all get deleted lol
ohh
lmao bria is being defeated by the spam filter
uhh
yeah i did hear from my tour guide that bike theft is pretty bad
idt it's any worse than like other UCs though
@calm atlas could you help? bria got muted for accidentally doing spam filter
just that more students have bikes
bike theft is common in all UC's
my roommate had his bike stolen before
yeah
do u remember the time u got it
Sometime around 3pm
I think around 3-3:10 to be exact
@mystic ginkgo
lmao
ye it seems, the G role is gone
bria are you a hs senior
remember, you have to report to colleges that you committed a felony act
okok if you want you can roles here
why are you relieved lmao
on god thats like
LOL i see that emoji as a "oh no"
international level
emoji
tears of joy?
waitlist moment
exactly its not relieved
also @bitter zephyr where do u study if libraries close so early/does ucsd have any 24/7 studying spots
what ucla's cs acceptance rate
no wait that encapsulates it perfectly
UCSD has 24/7 study areas Sunday-Thursday
you're thinking of the ๐ฅฒ one
I usually study at home if the library closes early
how abt during finals week
i think ucla is 10% cs no? berk is the 3-4%
open all week 24/7 during midterms and finals
berkeley is higher I thought
not according to ucla's data
unfortunately
i think u can find it somewhere on a2c
bruh it might be lower dawg
a lot of ppl posted the link
for 2021 UCB was 14.4%
i heard 2%
nah berk is 4% i thought
its dropped
I thought 4-5%
oh damn
For CS
oh just for CS?
it's 14.4% of the 12% they admitted right?
Thatโs prob average acceptance rate
r u guys doing cs?
honestly I'm glad now that I didn't do CS lmao
Engineering
doing bio
Yeah
ohhhh nice
This thread goin off tn
for cs would u pick ucla over penn?
Yeah
ik a lot of ppl do
Seniors burning off their adrenaline lol
the main reason I'm banking on UC Davis is that around 7 years ago I had a dream about going to UC Davis or someth, and I'm hoping that it's true
Fr
and honestly my penn interviewer j roasted penn the entire interview
so i no longer wish to go
Did you get into UC Davis back when you were applying?
oof L
I got off the waitlist
ah
guys he literally said to my question "what owuld u do differently if u could redo college"
"i would research my colleges more"
lol
My email screenshots are floating around a2c somewhere
honestly solid advice, I haven't researched much of the schools I apply to
like the most I prob do is watch one or two youtube videos
and talked abt how he would have researched penn more without saying it directly
he really disliked penn ๐
so true
yeah me too tbh
i dont know anything abt my colleges
I'd change it to I would research my major more lol
I thought ChemE was a lot of Chemistry
the reason I decided not to ED2 to case was because I watched a video about uc davis and liked it too much lmao
it turns out that it's 99% Physics and CS and Math
is cwru cs good?
1% Chemistry
I know a friend who does that, I think it's someth with pipes and tubes
i was kinda considering it cuz 80% undergrad do research apparently
yes we are the pipe and tube major
wait what UC's have come out so far
idk, I just know about medical stuff there with cleveland clinic
ucsc early batch
yooo mario major
oh ok word
ucr/ucm??? maybe
ucr, ucm, cal early, ucsc early
absolutely
i think ucr and ucm are still rolling (?)
I see the UCLA chat being active and my heartrate increased
you should seriously get off A2C then lol
no fr
the only uc i really like is ucla ๐ญ
saw columbia likelies came out and ive been on that a2c grind
I disliked UCLA until I saw Waddle
i didnt even apply to columbia...
bro if someone just sent something saying UC Davis came out and pretended it did I guarantee that some people will go into cardiac arrest
Why
and my parents would murder me if they found out i applied
Columbia shot me down instantly lol
the columbia book/media list were really fun to put together tbh
ain't no way you wrote essays for fun
i don't remember their other prompts though
oh there was the "what brings you happiness?"
U r built different
fuck I fell out of my chair
bruh i applied to northeastern for the sole reason of not having to write anything
I hate big cities like Boston, anyone else?
I feel like the reason you dislike davis is that it has too much grass
it didn't work? ๐ฆ
Like no disrespect tho
lol
its in nyc, too many girls (according to my mom ๐ so harder to get a bf... altho i already have a bf), not super safe, dirty, expensive af (and we live in the bay)
I'm having heart palpitations
granted she doesnt know i have a bf
I'm hallucinating
Just do a uno reverse and say you are homosexual
LOL my mom made the same point about attending a women's college
LOL i wanted to go to barnard before
but my friends mom was like
if u go to a womans college
u either
18 hours left
apparently it's scientifically proven that men generally behave better when there is a higher men:women ratio
really?
Itโs weird
I wish I had a gf
my last one broke up with me after a month
i think it's like some weird competition thing
it was long distance so it was inevitable
Sorry to hear that
I'm pretty ok lol
have been dating for 9 months tho
WAIT what school does he go to
same, I gotta work out tho before I ask anyone
like ucsd??
she and I broke up mutually so I'm still friends with her
ohh thats good
not really ๐
Why
Lmao
wait why
well lets j say
Itโs CMU
oh that sucks
I donโt care if I am sleep deprived from the school as long as I have that sweet seeeeeeet prestige
"because you'll be studying 24/7 anyways"
Yo @bitter zephyr what type of jobs do chemical engineers do?
lots of jobs actually
im kinda open to other engineering majors so im curious
you can work in semiconductors, petroleum, laboratory jobs, you name it
isnt it v hard to change maj in UCs?
cool. What do you plan on doing?
honestly stanford campus is probably best one in california imo
shh dont remind me
it's ok
plan on going into finance actually
investment banking or consulting
no you did it wrong
like stanford is really pretty and everything but it feels kinda isolated
her roles werent back
exactly what I want
yeah I don't really like working in engineering jobs long term
just want a starter engineering job
like idk why I would want a college in the middle of the city
last time fish got muted it worked tho so
yeah
seems too hectic
you have to use g!unmute <user id> for spam unmutes
ig so
i did not know that
it's like bay area but i have a bias against south bay so
or else roles dont come back
#1 mod fr
just curious, is there mod jobs open for the discord server?
we'll release apps in #๐ข-announcements with an @ Announcements ping when we need mods
any thoguhts on how u would switch from eng to finance ?
alright
.
here let me find it idk where it is
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
it was nice knowing u comrad
you are going to wipe out your 14tb "homework" folder if u delete system32
I wish I had 14 tb
lmao
get an ssd like they are kinda cheap now
yeah. yo I think we are the only ones on this chat now
and constantly slow down my applications
GET ONE
alright it's time to get crazy
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
what should we do to the others when they get back
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YEAH BABY
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
tell them that we get likelys from stanford
yes, that'll be the perfect plan
everyone will die from depression trust me
they'll never know
oh u did too?
@void mantle shhhhhhhh
shhhhhhhhhhh
sssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
bro is an old monk
Take business classes and work towards an MBA I guess
dont expose me
that u?
damn oxygen deprivation on the mountain did a number
uhhhhh I mean you must be wise...
do u wanna do quant
wdym ur literally right next to me rn
they make a crap ton of money
anything that affects me affects u worse
fuck wait
cuz u r tall af 
Guys I got a likely from UC Palo Alto
lmao
the raccon viedos are good
me too!!!!! *stanford
bro i actually need time to pass faster
I didnโt apply
i cant keep waiting for these decisions
you will know it came out if people start putting death threats on here, dont worry
take like 10 melatonin and pass out
My house is gone
might have to
it took u that long to realize?
how many schools did yall apply to
Where did you put it
uh
@void mantle did u get a Stanny likely letter?
so you knowwww
some schools
like stnaford
need building donors
and ur house
looked
rather
nice
it fit the taco bell stereotype
30
it didnt even need to be remodeled to be donated
those are rookie numbers now a days
fr
some guy applied to 100+ colleges
Thereโs a fat hole in my wallet
Im declaring war on raccoons
such a low number
20 and im thinking i should have done more
nah cuz how tf you even gonna remember all the passwords for those portals
but ur one urself.....
i ripped 25 and thought it was too much
I just have a notebook file
my computer remembers for me!
Should have done minimum 40
it even created the pws for me ๐
if ur an asian in cs 20 is the minimum
Lmao I have "rat" in my name
guys stop coming up with legitimate ways to remember things
holy
its ok i'll keep ur secret
nerd alert
bruh
average a2c user
it depends on like how competitve the schools were
Time for jealousy
i have never heard of any of those schools
in her bg ๐
girl really j searched up no supp colleges n applied to them all
still crazy though
bro all those acceptances and she decided on bennett college
There are like thousands of schools, it's easy to get a few hundred if you bother to apply
i'd rather put togehter a better app for t20s than waste time on schools i'd never go to
MF prob spend over 4 mill for application fees
app fees prob
do we know what time uc davis is coming out tmrw
Idk what these random ass unis are
Like tf is Miami at oxford
some juicy 79% acceptace rate school
its like oxford at miami
ripoff oxford
Ayo?
wait
emory oxford
i thought it was
emory as one school
and oxford as another school
๐
i was so confused to why the emory thread was like emory oxford
there is university of oxford which is what most people are thinking of
then there is oxford emory which is another campus of emory like 30 min away from the main campus
the "real" oxford university is in england
no
like its not related at all
๐
yea tha tmakes sense
i dont get why people like cornell either
(as a cornell ED applicant)
ice cream
i got deferred thankfully
I should probably go to sleep
yeah cornell is crap (as a deferred applicant)
sleep is for the week
LOL nah actually
also agreed as a deferred applicant
i never understood
the type
of cornell
i applied bc it was the best ivy for cs
๐
guys cornell is great (pleas please please please please let me in)
(not that i'd get in)
i also dont get columbia and penn ๐ญ
columbia has aesthetic colors
yeah
that's ture
isn't ib hellish
almost didnt apply pton bc of its color
yeah that makes sense
dont u need to do a specific major(s) to do that
did the common app questions for princeton, saw the number of supps and proceeded to remove it from my list
I don't think so
but UCSD doesn't have a Finance major so I'm doing the best I could of a bad situation
by taking a minor in Economics and taking as many finance classes as I can before I leave
same lol
thats simply the only reason I didnt apply, totally one hundredd percent wouldve gotten in for sure
what percent of berk cs is just cract bay area ppl
98% Bay Area
1% other Californians
1% OOS/Intl
is that actually the stat lmao
people need to get off A2C when joke stats seem like reality lol
hahahaha
nah its def hyperbole
that's a good one ๐ญ
but bay area mfers r different when it comes to cs
all my friends's first word was system.out.print("hello world");
im scared that when i attend a cs school im just gonna be run over by tryerds whove been coding out of the womb
lmaoo
not java ๐ญ
Hi
Hi again
Chemical Engineering + Management Science(Finance)
i seee checmical engineering
but I'm also in the Econ Department tho
you didn't specify whether you wanted a pure non-STEM major
a lot less hectic
and a lot more theoretical
workload and applications
STEM has a large workload and a lot more practical applications
Non STEM has a smaller workload but the applications you see are a lot more theoretical
same
depends on your prof though lol
yo yall
is uc davis out today?
or rather tomorrow if you're in america
10th march?
Friday 3PM US Pacific Time
someone pin this
so high chances for ucsd/uci/ucla for 17th?
damn good luck yall
no clue but if there is prob around that date
ucsd has released on that 3rd friday since the past forever
good luck everyone!
depends if its capped or not
I applied to UCI, UC Berkeley, UCLA, Davis, Santa Barbara and san diego
how easy are these to switch major?
is psych that demanded?
is it in high demand or no?
i mean is business high demanded lol
(prob is cuz its business ....)
praying for UCI after uw
probs 17th alongside the others i think
i thought the others are like end of march ish
๐ญ that's a lot coming out on the 17th
uw cs seems really hard this year
rough
praying for (any of the uc's coming up)
true
together with writing essays (ish)
tbh
slaving away at school while your future is on the balance is worse
When is UCLA releasing ?
the decision date should just be random
so the kids dont get anxious waiting for their decisions
california dreaming
hmmm not sure
Oos
17th
i meant business lol
but prob very demanded
ucla portal is annoying
i gotta find my uc id everytime i wanna login ๐ฟ
Depends on what major you want to switch into
Business Econ at UCSD is uncapped
easy to switch into
lesgo
ima do that if i get in :>
hehe
oh shit really/
it supposed to come on the 17th or start rolling then
yeah
imagine if we had a uc day and all of them release simultaneously
rejected from UW today expecting more of the same tmw
r u in state for washington?
nope
yeah its like 3% or less for oos if u r doing cs. (if u did apply for cs)
dont worry about it
yuh it's aight idrc
idk why ppl apply for uw tbh (like oos for cs)
i havent seen a single person get in for cs oos, it's all accepted for prescience
I didnโt cause itโs basically impossible
and also seattle.
i lived there for a year
it was
miserable
too gloomy for me but snow!!!
yeah thats why i didnt too
genuine question, why do ppl apply to anything more than 20+ schools
isnt that just a waste of money at that point, since youre only going to 1 of them
shotgunning โ๏ธ๐ค
i thought my 14 schools was a lot then i hear ab that person here that applied to 45 oml
acceptance rates so low they think they can game the system by lowering them even further
to be fair tho i got campus fee waivers for 8 of those campuses (i only applied uc and csu)
lol california public only gang
oh so they only do that if theyre applying to mainly top top schools got it
lmfao yeah
its so simple one app for all the campuses, way less effort
i did 8 ucโs (skipped ucla) and 6 csuโs
i did 6 UCs, prob like 10 ish top 20s, a couple of top 40s and a few safeties
2 CSUs and every UC except Davis, Riverside, and Merced
lol what have ucla done to u
be in LA
๐ญ
true
I'm offended man
if u watch nba and hate lakers (or lebron) maybe UCLA isnt for u lol
its just not rly my kinda vibe, like i can def see how others would be happy there but it doesnโt really emphasize its physics program
lmfao yeah
i wanna go to grad school after that!! and do research in maybe particle physics or astrophysics
n theres a bunch of national labs that i would love to work at someday
all the ucโs are good for physics honestly bc the undergrad curriculum is basically the same
but i just ehhh
that low acceptance rate and expensive housing scared me off
nah in state
and i do know 2 students at my hs last year got into ucla which is good for them ! but the school is jus not my vibe rip
yeah it's in la
way too party-esque and extroverted for my physics major ass
damn
if one day u find proof to white hole or create a successful worm hole, hook me up
ima just become the 1st person to go into those :>
or when u get ur nobel in physics lol
just got rejected from uw so nervous abt Davis now
yesyes you can be in the main list of authors for the research paper on worm holes
particle physics sounds really cool
๐ฟ its fine bro
we all felt it at once
def lol
mostly theory physics but still cool
hehe lesgo
i don't really know anything about it but i took a day program at ucsc recently and i was like wow!
"credit to Felix for being the man"
PARTICLE PHYSICS IS SOO COOL like it sounds like the dream to work in the control room of a particle accelerator
fr lol
they had a little tank set up where you could actually physically see particles zipping around and it was amazing
really
thats so cool oml
i thought they found or rather theorise that in like a split second
particle and anti matter clash to cancel each other out
all the evidence points to its existence
did they not find proof for that?
we just havent directly observed it yet
ic ic
bc it doesnโt interact w light
oh it was this https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/einstein/educator-resources/building-a-cloud-chamber-cosmic-ray-detector !
Wouldn't it be cool if you could create a rain cloud? Or call cosmic rays into view? Well, you can do both! All you need is an aquarium, a slide projector, dry ice, and a few other easy-to-get supp...
btw tho
i forgot what it was called, a cloud chamber
im sitting next to my friends (couple) and they're fucking hugging ๐ฟ
im literally stone-faced
pretend like i never saw it or shit ๐
YOO U CAN MAKE ONE??? oh my god
i know!!!
damn interesting
i love physics
it didn't look super complicated but i could have watched it forever
if i were to have many lives, i'd try all of these cool science majors
what is ur major?
oo nice, do u got like a plan for what u wanna do after u graduate college
become a ceo
nah bro ๐
im planning to go to a comp
do like a small or rather experimental ish position
as like a team member of their operation management or sth like that
and just sees a business from within
just become a ceo smh /j
THEN, ima open a restaurnat :>
do you know what kind of restaurant it'd be ๐
ye
vietnamese
cuz im vietnamese and lots of american ppl/western ppl love viet food lol
big market with low competition
sounds really tasty
yee
asian food is the best anyways
i alr thought everything out
argueable lol
steaks are quite good :>
tho asian food for me still tastes better
opening a restaraunt sounds so cool
ye
im planning to make it into a chain ish
but that might require lots of finance
if yall taking cs or sth we can collab u know ;))
dude thats awesome, if ur passionate about it then i have no doubt u can make it into a whole chain
or bio cuz ima need some good biologists to experiment with food and stuff
hey guysssss
no cs here thank goodness ๐
ye but its gonna take prob my whole life lol
rip ๐ญ i need them
i wouldn't make it out of applications alive if i applied cs
i also planned an app
sup
hi!
basically an anti-procrastination app u know
yall readyyyy?
hullo
woooooo
for what tho
ucd
weโll seeee
welp that was me last semester. ๐ econ was brutal.
(if i get admitted) ๐ค
econ isnt that hard
just my teacher is poo poo ๐
ngl econ is hard if you don't already know some of the concepts
but hes nice just too slow and sometimes offtopic
hehe i took both econ and business (ib)
call me the business good
oh it was hard for me ๐ญ
i really liked listening to econ podcasts in grade school and that's the only way i've been passing the class tbh
if psychology was a science, u'd be calling the marketing god by now
lol
rough
there's just so much information and you never really cover it in other classes
true ig
but its pretty like
self-explanatory or rather true when u observed it
my econ class last semester was a bit goofy, we didnt rlly talk about recession or interest or whatever econ is, we just talked about local businesses in our town lol and general topics like scarcity and consumers n all that
cuz for example when the demand of sth rises (stocks for example), its price also rises
as more demand but supply remains the same
i guess so, but there's also like investment terms and stuff i have a hard time remembering
we did not cover stocks or finance at all
so we have a surplus of demand and not enough supply
๐ our tests were like... brutal.
probably cuz i took ap econ
fair enough lol
but like ๐ญ idk why our tests were so hard
damn tf? macro or micro?
how?
the wording was so weird
i just have like 10 markers, asking u to evaluate stuff
does your teacher also word test questions weirdly LOL
not too hard
it was like trying to throw u off on purpose
econ is a language lol
and it worked.
my econ teacher does that and it trips me up so bad
wth is that lol
rip lol
like he just words the problem weirdly
โฆ.whats the difference ๐ญ they just called it econ, but im guessing it was macro??
yeahhhh this
so it seems like one answer is correct bt it's actually a different one
micro = externalities, theory of firms, elasticity, ...
idk why teachers do that
he does it in his hw too and idk what he's asking at that point
๐
OH then it was micro then
macro = bigger stuff -> tax, ....
like. ;-; just tell me the problem without weird words...
or rather ad/as
ohhhh ok that makes a lot more sense why we were only talking ab local stuff, and ya we covered externalities
its what we call: Terminologies lol
thats micro then lol
ya lol
ig u're not supposed to do tax and stuff yet lol
tax for me (ib kid) is international trade
macro is like ad/as
it wasnt even terminologies man ๐ญ it was just weird sounding problems...
damn its fun learning about other majors / subjects, even if im not gonna do a degree in them
gotta learn the language lol
it is fun lol
like side hustle
did anyone here apply ucd?
ya
if one day we ever go to ucd together and u see a business kid in the physics major area
ye
its me
yea
it was the only school i had a different applied major for lol
just me hanging around these smart kids to see if they discover the newest substance in the universe or not 
what major
plant sciences
hell yea and then we trade majors (jk)
hehe lol
cool
my major is music LOL
woah
u learnt the reason why C# is better than C ๐
oh ya cara are u committing to ucr? saw u said u liked the school
if i get rejected to my top ucโs im going to ucr, i can def see myself happy there
depends on where else i get into :) but its one of my top choices cuz my sister goes there and im familiar with it
i visited it over winter break!! i liked it
and less competition so my sister found it easier for her to do well
hi sorry if i am intruding on another convo, but what time do decisions generally come out for UCs
damn legacy lol
i just know that if i go there im spending all my time in the orbach science library
apparently its 3pm pacific time
at least for ucd
cool ty!
idk tho
i dont think uc's factor in legacys
well i think my UCSC and UCR decisions came out around then too
ye true
so would make sense
im just. amazing B)
legacy apparently (at least of some unis) dont really matter
my friend got like 3 generations of legacy (grandad, dad, sis) at duke
still got rejected lol
damn
i think it's more $$$ than legacy
(even tho his dad owns a bar at duke ๐ )
fair enough lol
kid has amazing stats, ECs essays as well
but duke just said no lol
they say half of harvard's class are legacies but i wonder what percentage of those legacies donated
true
no i think only 1/3
of the harvard's class
oh that's slightly better
i wouldnโt go to an ivy league for undergrad but it would be so cool for grad school and/or postdoc
lol my dad said "shit we didn't donate to ucsb" when we started talking about ucsb cuz my mom and dad went there.. ๐
bc ik princeton has a plasma physics lab which just sounds awesome
it was funny ๐ญ
oooo
i love princeton's music practice rooms
but i got rejected.
LOL
ucsb!!! my dream school!! im so anxious for the 21st
๐ฅฒ maybe for grad
what is the point of legacy?
just why?
wdym by point?
why does it even exist
its nice there! ๐ญ
bruh y did berkeley get rid of the declaring process for cs
pretty sure its to keep donations coming in
colleges are a business at the end of the day
FR i also visited ucsb and man it was just so gorgeous there
they need money
the town was amazingggg
campus literslly right next to the coast its like a resort lol
the little science museum they had was cute ๐ญ
immaculate vibes
for business ima go to dyson (cornell) if i get in tho :>
dairy bar.
cool program ngl (and i totally love being in the middle of nowhere)
oo nice
rip
bro my interviewer for cornell told me about how amazing the dairy bar is
u applied to northwestern? cara?
nah
i mean i think they kinda do
i think it's march 30?
fake ivy smh
๐
u got interview?
rough
the people at my school laugh about it ๐ญ
really? 24th march?
ik ik
i did dyson so no interview offered ๐ฅฒ
my friend got a stanford interview i rlly hope he gets accepted, its his top choice
so i didnt really try ๐ญ i just kinda asked random questions
its a public ivy
pretty much atp
people are saying it moved to the 30th
so. it might be fake ivy. LOL
nooooo
it could've been my birthday present ๐ฅฒ
๐ญ nooooo
stanford is dope
in silicon valley
stanford has a pretty campus
yea and hes also a physics kid
and stanford has SLAC lab
ive toured SLAC lab its so cool i โค๏ธ their linear accelerator
damn
i drive over it a lot ๐
that is perfect
i didnt like stanford's campus
didnt apply there bc its a wee bit too close to home and ive been there a bit too much
since it goes under 280
hehe cali = good place to sell viet food
lots of viet
hehe
i applied but i feel this way too lol
i did my whole wake forest video about my restaurant lol
same im bay area and dont wanna go to any school thats relatively close by
half this server is bay area tbh
guys. if u get into stanford. and u wanna do archery. just know. they arent good ๐ญ i talked to the coach and even he was like "I wish i could pick my own team..."
it was sad
honestly yea probably
LOL
he can't pick his own team??
nah ๐ญ
he cant
cuz of controversies with other colleges ๐ like the usc incident apparently
ohh
poor coach
true
i was a competition once and i was next to the stanford kids ๐ญ they kept missing... so much.
And some la
rough
Donโt forget abt me lol
so basically cali

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Whoโs ready for tmr
yall play with bow and arrows?
alright i'm gonna log off for the night, best wishes everyone ๐ ๐ค
minecraft moment
gnnn!
hehe its 2pm for me but gn
Tbh Iโm not too scared besides la and Berkeley
truu
ucd tmrw?
how r u not scared for uci, ucsd, and ucsb
they are pretty selective
true
the others are less selective
la and berkeley are basically t20
ye

