University of Michigan (2022-2023)

[reef dome]

Ah

[humble reef]

contact ur ao?

[uneven thorn]

my application has a typo in the essay and i hadn’t yet signed up for the apcsp test so that wasn’t on there either

and the essays were just flat out bad

it’s not the end of the world

[misty spade]

me too

I have "the University of Michigan" and "The University of Michigan"

I found that out 2 days ago

[reef dome]

Not capitalizing the word “the”?

You’re okay

[formal bridge]

i think my essays are decent but the only unique thing i got going for me stats wise is that i absolutely balled out on my ap physics and calc bc tests

hopefully they appreciate 🙏

[deft kindle]

its not that big a deal

they prob wont even notice

[waxen remnant]

lol I think I just said U-M

[outer bronze]

is there an approx oos umich acc rate

i cant find like a number anywhere

for like class of 26

[dusk schooner]

literally a safety school

[humble reef]

they have general information on how many they've admitted and from where students attend but not direct oos stats

[fresh lark]

I heard someone said decisions are out on Jan 28

This true?

[misty spade]

don't trust random ppl. the decision came out in late jan

and thats all we know

[fresh lark]

ok thanks

[reef dome]

Around there usually

Like last week of January typically

They came out on the 28th last year @misty spade

[fresh lark]

Gotchu thanks for the info guys

[deft kindle]

that was last year

[misty spade]

ohhh I see. Gonna put that date on my calendar and prepare myself for the deferal

[formal bridge]

from looking at the a2c calendar from years past, it seems to pretty consistently come out on the last friday of january, at least the last 3 years, so if I had to put money on it I’d say January 27th

and I believe it’s around 3 PM

[deft kindle]

it was around 3/4pm last timr

i remember that it was mid afternoon

[buoyant spade]

https://tenor.com/view/fingers-crossed-george-mason-georgemasontv-cross-my-fingers-i-hope-so-gif-18620889

[night epoch]

Lots of other schools are doing that date so very common👍

[noble sedge]

we got this guys 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊

[sinful totem]

yup

[reef dome]

Yes we do!

[formal bridge]

some people are saying that umich counselors told them that it won’t be the last friday of january so possibly january 20th on that case

who knows though

[reef dome]

NOOO

I have other schools that day

[formal bridge]

they defer so many out of state im just preparing for a deferral 😭

[reef dome]

Bro me too

Maybe they like Illinois tho

[formal bridge]

better than new jersey 💀

[turbid burrow]

im in mf va

[reef dome]

MY FAV STATE

[turbid burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/chief-keef-faneto-new-jersey-gif-25926112

bad joke mb

[formal bridge]

nah you good 💀💀

i just don’t wanna wait another couple months after a deferral

is it true that they defer almost everyone? that’s what i heard

[turbid burrow]

idk tbvh

[turbid burrow]

vetter than straight rejection

[misty spade]

of course they do. they have 20% acceptance rate

more than half of that school are valdetorians. I dont think I have a chance

[formal bridge]

yeahh it’s looking like the same case for me

[reef dome]

Not almost everyone

But they get 80k applicants a year

So a lot

Did y’all apply lsa

[misty spade]

school of engineering

advance selection for CS

[formal bridge]

i did COE

[reef dome]

Yeesh

[misty spade]

those spots are soooooooo competitive

[reef dome]

Can I put being OP of this thread on my LOCI

[formal bridge]

yeahh its not looking too great for me in engineering either

[misty spade]

whats loci

[reef dome]

Letter of continued intrest

Interest

[misty spade]

bruhhhhh. IDK. put it on

say something like manage signle handedly managing a 40+ group chat, assisting other students in their decisions in UM's application process

[verbal granite]

i did LSA and advance for CS

lowkey regretting cuz i want to do engineering school but w/e

[dusk schooner]

yall j check the naviance for UMich instead of astrologizing

this is mine

did advance for CS + preferred admission to Ross

[young breach]

gl

[dusk schooner]

thx

[turbid burrow]

Same

[thin cove]

same cuz i wanna do a minor in computational finance

and intracollege minors are easier to take than intercollege

[thin cove]

what abt us intl kids😭

[verbal granite]

i wanted to do mathematics double major

[misty spade]

can u do it with the ACT

[cerulean tiger]

LMAO i have a performance thingy that day

[dusk schooner]

1s

[cerulean tiger]

i hope i wont be crying on stage

[cerulean tiger]

do you have naviance

it doesnt matter for other schools bc like

[misty spade]

no

[cerulean tiger]

your schools graph is always going to be the most accurate for you

[cerulean tiger]

it really depends on region and stuffs as well yk

[misty spade]

ohhh. Each school is different???

[dusk schooner]

yea

[young breach]

lol somehow my school's ACT axes goes to 37 ...

[misty spade]

lol

Did i do something wrong

[dusk schooner]

no

[misty spade]

I just find out our school do use naviancce

[dusk schooner]

just means theres not enough ifo

[misty spade]

theres like 58 ppl who applied

[cerulean tiger]

could just be a visual bug

[young breach]

probably lol

[grave galleon]

My school’s graph only shows 3 rejects. 7 accepted + 3 deferred then accepted and 1 waitlist. Not a ton of data but my school is small

Promising.. idk lol

[misty spade]

mine just showed nothing. because it says it dont have enough data

[reef dome]

Mine has too much data

[grave galleon]

Yeah mine’s like that for some schools

[misty spade]

holy crap

its a sea of red

[grave galleon]

Wowww.. must be a high school in Michigan? On scoir you can filter by years to only see data from 2018+ for example.. idk if you can do that on naviance but it may be easier to see it all

[reef dome]

Right

We have 300+ kids apply a year

[misty spade]

holy crap

[reef dome]

This is only 2018+ lmao

[misty spade]

bay area school?

[reef dome]

Nope

Chicago suburb

This is Michigan ignore the search

[misty spade]

Thats insane. I dont even think that many ppl in my school applied to michigan

even the most popular school dont have that number

[reef dome]

Michigan is one of the top schools here

my class is 1,000 kids

[misty spade]

Our top school is OSU

[reef dome]

So take that into account

[misty spade]

1000 kids

bruhhhh

we have like 600 in our grade level and we are not even half that amount

[grave galleon]

I have 100

[grave galleon]

Damnnnn

[reef dome]

5 suburbs combined

If that makes it sound less crazy

[misty spade]

ok yeah thats sounds less crazy

but still ur school must be competitive af

[reef dome]

It’s crazy

No class rank bc of it

[misty spade]

not suprise

our school is getting rid of valedtorian next year

the reason for it is kinda sad tho

[reef dome]

May I ask

holy crap

Probs delete that but omfg

[misty spade]

so now evey school districts near that district is getting rid of the valedtorian

[misty spade]

yeah good idea

[reef dome]

That’s insane tho

[misty spade]

its pretty sad. that school is competitve af and everyone there is stressed out

[reef dome]

Are they investing in actual mental health resources

Just getting rid of valedictorian isn’t nearly enough

[misty spade]

that school have a 7th grader taking calc BC for example

[reef dome]

My friend did that

Crazy, sad man

[misty spade]

yeah lets not talk abt it

[misty spade]

danngggg.

[rigid idol]

our school removed valedictorian long ago

Also has the audacity to put "Mental Health Awareness Month" in May wtf

[thin cove]

if anything, it fucks the val over😭

[deft kindle]

my hs didnt have class rank

so no val or sal

[grave galleon]

My school doesn’t do class rank but we still have val and sal

And “honor grads” top 10%

[modest nexus]

who applied with 2.05 GPA 😭

[dusk schooner]

dwai

[outer bronze]

in state?

[dusk schooner]

No

[fierce river]

Not to mention the 850 SAT score

[thin cove]

goated fr

[verbal granite]

it’s all about the effort

[thin cove]

i cant see how they rejected him tho

the sheer confidence in my g

he should have been accepted with full scholarship😭

[night epoch]

They shoulda payed him to go

[fierce river]

fr

they should have made him the fucking dean of admissions with that confidence

[fierce river]

whats the blue bit?

[buoyant spade]

Are we automatically considered for scholarships or do we have to specifically apply for them

I am an international applicant

[dusk schooner]

Waitlist iirc

[lofty orchid]

blue is usually unknown

[proper violet]

you should be automatically considered for umich specific scholarships

[rare swift]

Sup

[reef dome]

Sup

[surreal sequoia]

Sup

[fierce river]

sup

[night epoch]

Sup

[young breach]

Sup

[buoyant spade]

okay

[thin cove]

Sup

[turbid burrow]

Sup

[night epoch]

Sup

[sinful mural]

Sup

[sinful totem]

Sup

[noble sedge]

Sup

[deft kindle]

Sup

[misty spade]

Sup

[formal bridge]

Sup

[trail vault]

Sup

[uneven thorn]

Sup

[dusk schooner]

three seperate tax agencies have indited me for evading approx. 5.39 USD$ in taxes, I'm currently on the run in southern Mongolia and have started trading rare fish in order to procure funds to pay this debt, however the USMGFS trade agreements prevent me from selling rare fish directly in Mongolia, as such I have plans to fly to Central Zambia and trade these fish for Zambian Guitars and through it trade those within the European Markets

Sup

[lofty orchid]

sup

[misty spade]

great common app essay story. My recommendation is prob show instead of tell. U used alot of "I" in ur essay. It doesnt have a strong impact on the story. For example: "I have plans to fly to central zambia". Say "the plan slowly forumlates in my head as the plane get closer to central zambia"

[dusk schooner]

how about you try to explain your situation as you fend for your life

bum ass tryna give me tips

the Turkmenistani FBI are descending on my location as we speak

[thin cove]

amateur

the romanian FBI has already descended to me and my brother's location as we speak

im literally behind the bars with him rn

[dusk schooner]

🤨

[lofty orchid]

its actually called the FIB

[thin cove]

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-tate-tate-andrew-toxort-hu-gif-26567443

[misty spade]

Wait r we talking abt Andrew tate

[thin cove]

i was yes

as a joke ofc

greta: 1
tate: 0

[grave galleon]

Withdrawing my app

Michigan L

[reef dome]

Bro why

[grave galleon]

TCU > Mich 😪

[dusk schooner]

TCU?

[grave galleon]

Loser school 😢

not actually withdrawing lmao

[storm jewel]

les gooo

tcu >>>>

[surreal sequoia]

FAKE NEWS

[deft kindle]

dhmu

[turbid burrow]

lmfao

[buoyant spade]

Do we need to send Hard copy packets of our documents also for admission purposes.

[dusk schooner]

No

[turbid burrow]

at least osu out as well

[cerulean tiger]

thought this was a university at first
i am college-brained.

[misty spade]

WHO ELSE IS NOT READY FOR THEIR DECISION!!!!

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

We should have a lets open our UM decision party

[dusk schooner]

im finna dead

[turbid burrow]

real

[uneven thorn]

that sounds like hell tbh

getting denied and seeing other people accepted only makes it sting more lmao

[sturdy valley]

wait when’s it come out?

[night epoch]

Bruh

Most of my decisions coming on the 27th

[reef dome]

Which schools?

[night epoch]

UIUC, UMich, UW-Madison, UMD, and probably UMiami

[reef dome]

UMD is that day too?

Sick

[night epoch]

Idk but I’m not 100% sure about it

Lots of colleges generally do it on the last Friday of January for ea

[cosmic plinth]

W same!!! except for UMD and UIUC

[night epoch]

r u gonna record a video of yourself getting the decisions, i'm thinking of doing that for myself

[cosmic plinth]

Nah cuz tbh I open them without reaction 💀

[night epoch]

I already did that for all my schools except Drexel

but since its 5 decisions in a day for me I'm thinkin why not

I don’t care what my decisions are gonna be I’ll probably make a video on it😭

[cerulean tiger]

i did it for my rea school

bc i was opening it with other people heh

its quality content yk

[night epoch]

lots of views, but also a cool video idea that you know is gonna get views

[thin cove]

im doing that for purdue cuz @fierce river will be recording it on call too lol

[reef dome]

Im def going to when I’m at work

[uneven thorn]

i saw a lot of people in previous years get declined from UMich with good ec's and perfect act/sat scores

and high gpa

so my 35 act with mid ec's and high gpa i'm scared for

[night epoch]

I’ll probably edit it all 😭

[night epoch]

Bro I’ll just do it at home in my comfy chair😎

[night epoch]

I mean grades are good. If you’re in state I wouldn’t worry very much

[uneven thorn]

i'm in ohio man

[night epoch]

well good luck man, im oos too

i dont have one💀

[verbal granite]

its my bday too

💀

[reef dome]

Ayy happy early birthday!

[verbal granite]

save it for after the rejections

💀

[reef dome]

DONT open stuff on ur birthday plz

[verbal granite]

i have to

its gonna be an instinctlmao

im not gonna sleep soundly with a status update available

[night epoch]

*acceptances💪

don't worry you'll get into a good school

hopefully your top choice

[verbal granite]

lowkey all the jan 27th ones are not my tops

they are all oos publics

makes me broke 💀

[uneven thorn]

if i get into umich i'll be a happy camper man

i'll be sad when i get deferred from like my 9 reach schools

but umich is target

if i get umich then i can open my deferrals without too much sad

[verbal granite]

until u open ur finaid packages

💀

[uneven thorn]

i'm mentally prepared for poverty

[cerulean tiger]

nah its not meant for views

its meant for personal treasurekeeping

so i can laugh at myself for being stressed in like what? 5 years?

[young breach]

lol i feel like even if i did one i won't get much views b/c I'll just sit there and not react much

😂

[cerulean tiger]

lmao my stanford rejection video was like

mainly buildup

it was hilarious bc

i mistyped my password

so all that buildup

💀

again, not for getting views, but for my personal memory

i dont think im going to open umich with other ppl tho? mainly bc its like, not my top school

its only high stakes if other ppl are watching you get rejected from your dream school!

[uneven thorn]

i mean my dream school is MIT

and my grades and scores are there

but my ECs aren't great

so i probably won't get in and i kinda already accept that

so i'm not gonna really be devastated

[night epoch]

I’ll just make it because seeing other ppl’s vids helped me a little and I wanna give back. Also making videos is lowkey my hobby

[young breach]

👍

[night epoch]

Lol but like why not?

[uneven thorn]

i might join call for EA decision day

[night epoch]

Imma just open my application alone in my room 😔

But hey

At least I’ll have my comfy chair😎

[young breach]

either it's me sitting there with a blank stare for everything, or I'm going to react too hard and YT's gonna take my video down 🤣

[night epoch]

If I get rejected no one knows. If I get accepted I’ll show up to school with all the merch

You know I’d do that

[cosmic plinth]

do we know michigan date?

[reef dome]

People have guessed the 27th but no

[cosmic plinth]

what's the history like

[reef dome]

Its been the last Friday of Jan for past five years

[cosmic plinth]

ah

thanks :)

[amber ravine]

those who got in oos

with ~200k fam income

how much $ financial aid?

[reef dome]

I would presume none

At least based on what my parents have said

[amber ravine]

fuckers want 70k a year like wtf why am i even applying

for a public school

big poublic school 70k

[night epoch]

Then how do so many oos apply?

*why

[reef dome]

If you can’t justify the price, it might not be for you

[young breach]

good food

🤪

[reef dome]

no hate at all just like id ask yourself that

[young breach]

/s

[surreal sequoia]

umass >>>>

[young breach]

im trolling lol

[surreal sequoia]

ok good

just making sure

[young breach]

ngl, the food around campus is pretty good tho

[night epoch]

Ann Arbor has pretty decent ice cream

Even tho I’m allergic to dairy

I can say the ice cream there is good

[young breach]

pretty decent Asian food too

[night epoch]

I can cook my own curry tho

[formal bridge]

some interesting info I found on their website

[reef dome]

No eat only 8k enrolled

[formal bridge]

the same people that are good enough to get into umich are often the same people that get into the ivies or like stanford so theyd rather go there

also OOS tuition there without aid is a big no for a lot of people

[high nebula]

is there any word about the decision date yet?

[cerulean tiger]

the word is

stop worrying about it

worrying about it will do nothing

[high nebula]

im just wondering lol

[night epoch]

Prob 27th

[night epoch]

UMich hopefully care about their yield this year

Cause I’d go there hands down

If only they accept me

[rare swift]

is there a specifc decision date?

[formal bridge]

either 1/20 or 1/27 id say

[inland skiff]

I've heard 1/27 too

[solemn elm]

By curiosity, when is the rd date?

J to prep for a deferral

[formal bridge]

early april according to them

[reef dome]

Nah

They do batches

[formal bridge]

oh damn no clue then

thats what i saw

[reef dome]

Idk how to explain it

But I talked to my college counselor

If you are deffered, they begin releasing batches of decisions every three weeks

So you could find out anywhere from February to April!

That’s why they say “may not” instead of just you’ll get it in April

[formal bridge]

ohhhh makes sense

[solemn elm]

Also, what counts as demonstrated interest?

I toured, and I have liked every single UMich Instagram post since lol

[formal bridge]

ive heard they get a lot of their DI from your why U-M essay

also if you visited it should be on your commonapp file for umich

[deft kindle]

yeah. they prob don't look at the other stuff since there are just so many apps

[cinder glacier]

University of Michigan

[cerulean umbra]

This thread will be used to discuss University of Michigan, regardless of the application types (EA/RD). Feel free to ask your questions or discuss results or anything else about UMich here.

[reef dome]

Oo

[inner spade]

hi

[surreal sequoia]

hi

[night epoch]

UMich💪

[turbid burrow]

yo

[undone basin]

i hear they defer a lot?

[young breach]

yes

[night epoch]

Wait if I get defered

Can I accept another college

And still pursue UMich

[undone basin]

like commit to another college?

[night epoch]

Yes

[surreal sequoia]

u cant do that if you're defered

only works for waitlists

[reef dome]

Most

[night epoch]

I’ll probably drop UMich if deferred

But hey happy thoughts happy thoughts. I’ll get accepted 😎

I’ll get accepted

[reef dome]

How come?

[night epoch]

Senioritis reflects in first sem grade drop

[reef dome]

Ah man

I mean that isn’t good for any school that you get accepted tho

[night epoch]

Yeah but Mich will look at it more extensively if they defer me

[reef dome]

TRue

But why drop just in case they don’t take you bc of that

They still could

[night epoch]

But Mich is my top choice

If they took me I’d go

But oos acceptance rates😭

[young breach]

yea oos is rough for umich

[night epoch]

They could but then I could commit to another school. I’ll work it out 🤷‍♂️ you’ve got a valid point

[reef dome]

True

Just if you have any C’s, that’s worrisome

[night epoch]

First I need to get accepted to a good 2nd choice

[night epoch]

Yeah I have lots

On APs tho

[reef dome]

Ik schools make you see academic board before you get to campus

Oh man

[night epoch]

And 1 D💀

[reef dome]

Dude

That’s rly rly not good

[night epoch]

That I might be able to fix

[reef dome]

Not to be a bitch

But that’s rly worrisome

[young breach]

@night epoch Is it AP Physics?

[reef dome]

If any of those are in ur major

[night epoch]

Nah

[young breach]

if it's AP Physics, i think they'll overlook it b/c of how hard the course is

oof

[night epoch]

They aren’t

Math and language

I’m a Premed

[reef dome]

You said “lots”

That’s only two courses tho?

[night epoch]

I’m borderline for other courses

[reef dome]

Ah okay

@young breach back me up or say if I’m wrong here lol but

[night epoch]

1 D 2Cs 2Bs and 2As

[reef dome]

I’d honestly get ready to send emails to some colleges

A huge gpa decline is a red flag

[young breach]

yea

[reef dome]

Which you can definitely explain

But it’s worrisome

[night epoch]

I only did EA

So I’ll have to worry abt that after acceptance for some of those schools

[reef dome]

Where else did you apply

[young breach]

still rather worrying tho

[night epoch]

UIUC, UW Madison, UFl, Miami, UMD, Rutgers. Those are the ones I haven’t gotten into

I got into most of my others

Except Tulane

[reef dome]

Ok

All of those schools will likely call you in front of the admissions board

One bad grade is an outlier

4 is a trend

[young breach]

i've asked around a bit too regarding grades after acceptances and stuff and generally u don't want to have below a b-

[night epoch]

I mean I’ve had 70s and stuff before

It’s kinda consistent for me

Kinda

[reef dome]

What’s was ur gpa?

[night epoch]

That D is the only outlier by that logic

[reef dome]

Michigan is like a 3.9 I believe

[night epoch]

3.6UW, 3.7W

[surreal sequoia]

nah but this the 3rd most selective public school

so Cs are outliers too

💀

[night epoch]

They ain’t gonna see that for now

[young breach]

idk how that converts into percentages, but middle 50% for us is 94.75-95 weighted

[surreal sequoia]

when does your school send mid year reports?

[reef dome]

Even previous C’s are kinda scary

[young breach]

^

[night epoch]

Hopefully after the 27th

Semester ends the 20th for me so

[reef dome]

Dude you have plenty of time to get grades up

Honestly GRIND

you need to

[night epoch]

Yeah

[reef dome]

Is ur sat/act good?

[night epoch]

1470

[reef dome]

That’s good

[night epoch]

Which is above the 50percentile for Mich

I had good stats before this year

[reef dome]

Yeah that’s good!

[cosmic plinth]

I’m dropping UMich if deferred too

hella expensive oos anyway

[reef dome]

How many B- or below?

If 2 or less before, probs ok

[night epoch]

Oh I’m a B+ student on average

89%UW

91W

[cosmic plinth]

That’s like a 4.7

That’s more than B+

[young breach]

that's not a 4.7 ...

wait

nvm prob different scales

[reef dome]

It’s abt a 3.7

[cosmic plinth]

Weighted I mean

[surreal sequoia]

@reef dome what UW GPA do you think is fine for UMich CS?

[reef dome]

3.8+ personally is safe

[surreal sequoia]

alr

[cosmic plinth]

Nvm looking here

[lofty orchid]

lowkey i'm scared

[surreal sequoia]

i think i have a 3.9 ish so hopefully it wont drop lol

[cosmic plinth]

I’m not used to the number scale lmao

[lofty orchid]

cause i applied to ross

and its tough

although

[cosmic plinth]

I applied to school of education

[lofty orchid]

idk if its more tough than CS or engineering

[cosmic plinth]

Ross is hardest for UMich

[reef dome]

Ross is the hardest

[surreal sequoia]

it def is

[reef dome]

What they’re known for

[cosmic plinth]

Ross is kinda the UMich brand lmao

Yeah

[night epoch]

Yeah that’s what I’d say

[reef dome]

But I believe in u man

[surreal sequoia]

COE is next after ross

for selectivity

i tink

[night epoch]

I’m applying to LSA

[cosmic plinth]

Really wtf

[young breach]

same

[night epoch]

LSA💪

[cosmic plinth]

I applied for elementary education and have a strong background for it which I’m hoping gets me through lol

[reef dome]

Did u apply to wisco too

[cosmic plinth]

yeah

[young breach]

LSA 🥳

[reef dome]

Nice

[cosmic plinth]

uw Madison

[reef dome]

Ik my friend who is doing the same yup

[cosmic plinth]

OOS for college of education

Is very close to in state tuition so

[reef dome]

Madison, Indiana, Floria and mich I think

[cosmic plinth]

Fire

[young breach]

🤔 Do AOs consider grades equally? I'm looking to be a maths major, but my english grades kinda sucked

[night epoch]

Hopefully no

If it’s not that bad of a difference

[young breach]

it's pretty bad of a difference 💀

[night epoch]

10%

20%

[young breach]

🙏 🙏 🙏

[night epoch]

50%??

[young breach]

around 15

[night epoch]

Eh

[young breach]

normally it's like a -7.5%

but the COVID year happened and it was -15%

[night epoch]

Did you write something abt Covid in the additional info section

If so you’ll be fine hopefully

[reef dome]

No

Stuff related to ur major is more important

They look at all tho obv

[young breach]

k

[night epoch]

Hopefully they see it that way for my Cs

Hopefully my D will become a C

Then I’ll have more Cs

💪

[outer bronze]

is there a umich date announced

also do they defer ea a lot like otehr schools

[formal bridge]

umich defers a ton, especially oos

every counselor i’ve talked to says their admission process is a mystery though because they’ve seen kids with not perfect stats get in ea while they’ll defer a 4.0/1600

so keep your hopes up

or reasonable i guess

[night epoch]

Apparently they weigh grades for oos and in state same

I asked them

They said yeah

But maybe they look more closely at oos

So idk

[formal bridge]

it’s just generally much harder to get in oos because umich has to have 50% of their population be from michigan

so the rest of the world is competing for the other 50%

[lofty orchid]

wait i may be dumb

nvm

i was gonna ask what oos is

[reef dome]

Out of state

[formal bridge]

lol you good

[reef dome]

Unc is def hardest public school for oos imo

[formal bridge]

anyone else doing COE

[reef dome]

Like 80% are insane

[young breach]

Like every other school!

[night epoch]

Bro I was afraid for you 😭

[reef dome]

instate

[formal bridge]

prob berkeley imo

[night epoch]

Unc is easy for in state tho

They CONSIDER state residency

[reef dome]

Could be true yeah

[night epoch]

Berkeley is just competitive

[formal bridge]

if you look at the umich common data set it says state residency is only considered 💀💀

not like important or anything

[night epoch]

No way

[formal bridge]

the common data set is a lie

[reef dome]

Well

They can’t say state residency is “important”

That makes them look horrible

So they say considered, bc they do technically consider it lmao

[formal bridge]

yeah true

[surreal sequoia]

lol state residency for public schools is lwk the second most important thing

after stats

[night epoch]

No it’s their job to do so

They should start accepted more oos tho for money

Money good

[formal bridge]

public unis gotta serve mostly in state

[night epoch]

Besides what about “one nation under god” in the pledge

[formal bridge]

it’s a legal/money thing i think

[night epoch]

ONE NATION

It’s stupid how all the states operate as nations still

Back in the day that was fine

But now it’s one nation

[young breach]

tomato god

god of tomatoes

🍅

[night epoch]

Quebec is more integrated into Canada than Pennsylvania into NJ

[young breach]

idk if u realized, but that comparison doesn't rlly work lol

isn't quebec part of canada?

that would b like saying how Pennsylvania is integrated into USA

[night epoch]

Yea but they want lots of autonomy and stuff

[night epoch]

Fine Quebec and Ontario are more United

[reef dome]

Is this satire

[night epoch]

Is it?

I’ll say anything to get my oos acceptance

ANYTHING

[dusk schooner]

y would u do that and not wait

unless u ed2 u have till may 1st to commit somewhere

j wait it out

[night epoch]

Can’t j commit earlier

[dusk schooner]

why

[night epoch]

Peace of mind

[dusk schooner]

what do you gain

thats not peace of mind

the acceptance is peace of mind

if there's even a slight chance you'd take umich over another school

why not wait

and use the time you've been gifted

to pick the best overall choice

[night epoch]

I mean if I got deferred idk if they’ll accept me after seeing my mid year 💀

I mean you right

[dusk schooner]

you dont lose anyt by waitin tho

be patient goofy as

[night epoch]

I’ll commit to another school in everything but the signature

[dusk schooner]

ye

like for example

i could commit to asu rn

be done

or wait for the behemoth of other schools

like i literally got into ASU b4 senior year begn

could've committed and been doen

[reef dome]

Behemoth 😭

That book haunts me

[dusk schooner]

💀

[undone basin]

wtf CSU's are early april??

[reef dome]

You can’t commit to other school without deposit

[dusk schooner]

nah

j cal poly

[night epoch]

Like what if I got UW or UFl

[dusk schooner]

u wait it out

and unless you're sure you'd rather go there than umich

[night epoch]

Yeah I know signature and deposit

Eh

[lofty orchid]

damn bro

i haven't even gotta penn state yet

its crazy

[dusk schooner]

i applied to my rollings in august

thats why

would've been accepted to pitt by now too had they not wanted midyear

[lofty orchid]

ah i see

[young breach]

i've heard ppl get deferred not b/c of their actual content, but b/c they just haven't gotten to ur application

i would honestly just wait it out

[dusk schooner]

NEU disagrees mad hard

but go off

[reef dome]

Yup thousands do

Bc they get sm kids

[young breach]

Behemoth the Robot Wars machine

[night epoch]

Me a global scholars admit 👀

[dusk schooner]

L

why do mfs wanna study abroad so much

its not cool or fun

j stressful asf

[young breach]

haven't rlly looked into NEU so ...

[young breach]

got family there so ...

[dusk schooner]

everything thats not ED is a rejection farm

they defer EA to reject in RD

[young breach]

oof

[night epoch]

They send lots of Ed students off to first year not on main campus 💀

Non binding

They did that to me

So…

Kinda mad

[outer bronze]

better than texas, ut needs 90% to be in-state and 75% to be top 6% in-state from only ranking public high schools 💀

makes it so that google shows a 30% rate but in reality for in state non auto its 10 and oos its like 8, and for auto admit its fucking random assigned majors 😭 😭 😭

umich >> worst admissions system in the country

but oos umich rd round here i come (if i dont just get rejected flat out) :')

[reef dome]

Master and Margarita

[lost drum]

whats good

[reef dome]

Deca?

[lost drum]

?

[lofty orchid]

deca?

the business comp?

[young breach]

deca?

[reef dome]

Sorry ur pfp seemed like a deca guy

I was gonna say that’s what is up

[lofty orchid]

UR RIGHT

[lofty orchid]

you do deca?

[reef dome]

I wish

Debater instead

[lost drum]

oh mun haha

[lofty orchid]

ah u missed out

[cosmic plinth]

Bruh when did you apple to Minnesota

I still haven’t gotten a decision yet and I applied in like august

[dusk schooner]

september

[cosmic plinth]

Tf

Btw IU is rolling

[dusk schooner]

i dont think bloomington is

[cosmic plinth]

It is lol

[dusk schooner]

where does it say that

[cosmic plinth]

I got in last year in like September and I got in again this year two months ago

[dusk schooner]

damn

i applied a solid yesterday tho

u right

[cosmic plinth]

yeah you’ll get a decision in like 2 weeks or so

[dusk schooner]

kk

valid

btw

dyk how hard it is to dual enroll across schools

i applied Luddy CS and want to add on Kelley BA

[cosmic plinth]

So they won’t allow you to do that, but they have a concentration for CS in business at Kelley

But imo I wouldn’t go to IU for CA

CS*

[dusk schooner]

shi what

[cosmic plinth]

CS is still extremely new to IU and it’s not that strong

[dusk schooner]

ic

eh i got penn state as a lean in for good CS+Biz safety then

[cosmic plinth]

good

[dusk schooner]

ne info on the other schools in my list?

im aiming to do some combo of CS+Biz/Fin at all of them

[cosmic plinth]

Ngl, im not a CS or Engineering prospect so I don’t really know. Only reason I know IU so well is because I was going to commit there last year and research literally every single bit of it lol.

But you got a lot of the good schools for CS that I’ve heard about

I would add UCF if you’re interested in Florida. Fire CS program.

[dusk schooner]

ah ic

[dusk schooner]

semi, not too sure abt them

[cosmic plinth]

What’s your instate?

[dusk schooner]

Cali

[cosmic plinth]

Gotchu

[austere karma]

So when are decisions coming out?

[uneven thorn]

came out january 28th at 3pm last year and january 29 the year prior

so late january means late late january

[dusk schooner]

#1050882386751148103 message

i literally see this 24/7 in umass umich and usc

cna mfs stop asking

[young breach]

lol

[inner spade]

Whens michigan coming out

[buoyant spade]

Does UMich give aid/scholarships to international students

whats average coa for international students

[inner spade]

no

[buoyant spade]

none?

[dusk schooner]

They give almost nothing to oos already

Intl will always be zero for public schools bc they have am obligation to support in state only not out of state or intl

[buoyant spade]

ohhh

[dusk schooner]

Regardless you should be expecting to pay 200k+ in final cost at evey uni, leaning closer to 250k to as far as 320k for privates

Unless you have serious need or get into the unis that cover full intl need you won't get much

[surreal sequoia]

it's extremely difficult to get in

it's not impossible though

def JHU ED2

yes, but defered EA to RD is not the same as applying RD

admission chances wise

yes, but they are aware you were deffered

applying EA is a way to show interest

as you said, they defer almost everyone OOS CS

[dusk schooner]

Ignoring the entire convo, if you like jhu enough to ed2 then you should apply to jhu

[surreal sequoia]

this ^

[dusk schooner]

Personally for cs I'd say apply to both, and im a cali kid so ik the struggle

Do neither have alternate applications?

I would

For just one of them

It is more worth than you think

They're amazing schools

It takes all of 30m

Trust me

I setup 5 diff portals in one day in 2hrs

Incl ca and scoir

Nah

J copy paste

[tight robin]

wait which one is a better spot to be in?

[dusk schooner]

And use the free response prompt

Like its a prompt that basically says write about your own topix

J do that and take ur common app essay

Regardless jhu should be first choice

If you're debating the two dont ed2 jhu

Because why would you sign a contract binding you to jhu if you're not sure you'd take it over every other uni

Lowk gotta be worshipping the school for ed to be worth in gen

Icic

[surreal sequoia]

EA defered to RD is better than applying RD

[dusk schooner]

^

[tight robin]

oooo okay i see thanks!

[dusk schooner]

Lack of rejection outright also means stats are above a certain bar

[surreal sequoia]

for selective public schools at least

[tight robin]

ohh that is true

[dusk schooner]

They actually underenroll

[tight robin]

wait purdue ea is better than rd?

[surreal sequoia]

yes

[dusk schooner]

By they i mean uiuc

[surreal sequoia]

pretty much any selective public school

esp for CS

and esp for OOS

[tight robin]

oookay gotcha

[dusk schooner]

No school fills up all slots in ea

Its idiotic to do that

[surreal sequoia]

purdue CS does

the admission officer told us lol

[tight robin]

wait so for purdue can u get deferred for cs ?

[dusk schooner]

Ah

[surreal sequoia]

in some school visit thing

[surreal sequoia]

yes

[dusk schooner]

Good to know considering i applied CS rd 💀

[tight robin]

damn okayy

[dusk schooner]

It was a last minute hail mary tho

Yea

Purdue loves my hs and i have good stats so maybe i squeeze in

Scu?

What's that

Ahh

I'd go SCU bc of SV proximity

If it was eq cost umich

[surreal sequoia]

you mean like overall acc rate?

[dusk schooner]

Hehehaha

[surreal sequoia]

bc i'm CS and and i did a lot of OOS publics

[dusk schooner]

Half my list iirx

[surreal sequoia]

so its much lower for that than the overall acc rate

[dusk schooner]

15

[surreal sequoia]

ok

10

i did mainly reaches

some targets

and a few safties

sjsu

[tight robin]

wheres sjsu

[surreal sequoia]

san jose

lol

[tight robin]

ohhhh

[surreal sequoia]

it's like the most common feeder to apple

[tight robin]

thats what i thought ahahhah

[surreal sequoia]

at least in the top 5

[tight robin]

wait rlly>??

[surreal sequoia]

yea

[dusk schooner]

Psu betta

[tight robin]

dangg thats pretty dope

[surreal sequoia]

https://www.businessinsider.com/best-schools-to-get-a-job-at-apple-2014-10

LOL

oh wait

its first?

[dusk schooner]

I would not be caught at a csu

It shouldnt be

Cal poly slo and sjsu need to be moved out bc they're actual good schools but will always be under looked bc csu

Or more accurately

Every1 will bully u for going to a csu

Fr

Shit party scene tho

Mfs took learn by doing too far

[dusk schooner]

Also these numbers mean nothing

Since it doesn't take into account how many people actually even tried to work at apple

Like for example what if 100k sjsu grads apply and 1k got in making them feeder, but only 1000 Berkeley grads apply and 800 got in

1% vs 80% rate

And it'd make more sense for Berkeley CS grads to either look into startups, work out of state bc they can afford to move/more oos kids, have less overall grads compared to a csu, or just plain out not want to work at apple

[wispy island]

yo when do early action results come out

[inner spade]

late janaury

[dusk schooner]

😭 do u see what my struggle is

i open these new reads

thinking

oh prolly some cool thing being said

and its always the same thing

[young breach]

lol

yes

[solemn elm]

70k OOS a year is yikes

So what are you all majoring in?

[surreal sequoia]

CS

[dusk schooner]

CS + Business

[surreal sequoia]

wait for Cal?

or Michigan

[dusk schooner]

Same for both

For me at least

[surreal sequoia]

im doing EECS for cal

CS for michigan

[dusk schooner]

Yall missing out on the umich cheat code

[surreal sequoia]

wdum

[dusk schooner]

Direct admit + preferred admission

Take cs and get admitted to ross

Dual degree csba

[buoyant spade]

oh really🥹
damn very expensive

[dusk schooner]

yea

personally every OOS for me is 170-260k w most being 240k

in state 100-150k

Ivies 60-100k

[buoyant spade]

I see

out of UMich, UMD, VT, Wisconsin Madison, UMass amherst which one is good with aid

or neither😬

[dusk schooner]

All of them are public

so if you don't pay taxes to their state

you don't matter to them

and will get a whopping

collossal

0

[buoyant spade]

aaahhh

[dusk schooner]

anyways

me when

[verbal granite]

why do oyu have 2

[young breach]

maths

[buoyant spade]

hey,
was it last year?

yea maybe, sorry but I dont remember
and yes I gave physics c last year and was active over AP server

but yea whatsup

how did that remind you suddenly😁

oh haha nice

hmm yea, did you also give APs last year

nice which ones

Cool, I have Phy C Mech, Calc BC, AP P1

bro, you do have mega link for this year also

ohk, the last year ones have expired

[cinder dune]

does umich gets to read my mid year report if i applied early action

or they already made decisions

[tight robin]

yea im curious abt that too tbh

my semester doesnt end till end of jan

[verbal granite]

what does it mean to "give" aps

is it just "take"

[night epoch]

Prolly not

[buoyant spade]

aah😬😂

[inner spade]

when does ur semester end

[steep viper]

can I put CE as a backup

[cinder dune]

3weeks aho

but my counselor is submitting thrm on the 9th

[surreal sequoia]

It’s British English

They’re referring to the AP exams

They would say giving an exam rather than taking an exam

[verbal granite]

brits are so weird

[cinder dune]

any info on mid year report thing

[inner spade]

yeah theyll read it

dont know how much theyll read into it though since its only 3 weeks till decisions

[cinder dune]

ok thanks

[carmine oyster]

heyy

[surreal sequoia]

heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

😏

[turbid burrow]

yo

[dusk schooner]

im applying to 2 colleges

[verbal granite]

ic

[rare raptor]

worth doing rd oos cs?

[formal bridge]

gonna be really hard but if you have the money and the time there’s no reason to not

no harm in giving it a shot

[worthy orbit]

Has anyone else accessed the U Mich system with a friend account?

the financial aid section shows no information found

[worthy orbit]

its in the new and prospective students tab on wolverine access

[turbid burrow]

um

how do i get to that

[worthy orbit]

You gotta create a friend account

[turbid burrow]

Ok idk if I’m Dumb but idk what that is 😭

[lethal geyser]

neither do i 🥺

[worthy orbit]

https://its.umich.edu/accounts-access/computing-accounts/friend-accounts

[uneven thorn]

yeah i did but i'm EA

my financial aid section has everything

[worthy orbit]

Yeah same but when I go into there system it shows nothing

[uneven thorn]

wdym into their system

[worthy orbit]

wolverine access

with ur UMID you can access the "new and prospective student business"

[fair crag]

will answering yes to this, "Do you wish to be considered for advance selection into the Computer Science major?" put me at a disadvantage if I don't get into cs?

I mainly want to study math but a cs double major would be nice

[dusk schooner]

No

Basically how it works is college of eng has to accept you first

Then CS

So if u get denied CS u still have coe

[fair crag]

hmm ok

thx

[uneven thorn]

UMich has loci if i get deferred EA right? any1 kno

[reef dome]

Yeah

[buoyant spade]

whats loci

[dull patio]

letter of continued interest

[buoyant spade]

okay

[night epoch]

A locus, as related to genomics, is a physical site or location within a genome (such as a gene or another DNA segment of interest), somewhat like a street address. The plural of locus is loci.

[young breach]

A locus is the set of all points (usually forming a curve or surface) satisfying some condition.

[cinder dune]

end of jan

[formal bridge]

i don’t know for sure if they do

[deft kindle]

kamala Harris is at umich rn lol

[young breach]

👀

[thin cove]

mommy material