the future of Official PVP Servers

[tame abyss]

As it’s pretty self evident, I’m a content creator for MOE. As myself and many other streamers have come to see, it’s becoming more and more impossible to recommend this game.

While I absolutely love this game, I cannot recommend the multiplayer experience when it’s entails booting up the game at 2pm to sit in a 4 hour queue so I can stream at 6pm.

When recommending the game while streaming, the second people hear even a 1 hour queue, they say “lol yeah no thanks”. Every stream it’s the same thing, “yeah.. if you wanna play, expect a several hour queue”. No healthy game has this.

While I mainly play solo and do building tutorials, I don’t see this game lasting very long when nearly 2 weeks after release it’s no better than day 1. If this continues, I see this game dying very fast except for a hardcore minority.

I want to desperately promote this game, but I’m seeing prospective buyers losing interest in droves the second they hear a 4 hour queue. I love your game @jade lark ,
but I’m wondering how you plan on fixing this because no average person has even 1 hour to sit in a queue with such busy lives.

TLDR: queues too long, players not buying, what’s the solution?

[last rose]

this is where i have to remind people that this game is built to move between servers. If your server is so full its slot locked dont be afraid to load up a staging station and pop to a quieter server.

Materials are pennies compared to your characters, mounts and warriors.

And when you wanna fight, transfer over to an active server and raise hell

[wet turtle]

I just browsed the NA and Euro servers and I see lots of them with 50 or less people playing. The capacity is there to support everyone trying to play, just not all in the same handful of popular servers.

[hearty valve]

So your solution is to just give up all your progress where you want to play and start over somewhere else...

[last rose]

No because you can TRANSFER your character, warriors and mounts... you know things that are HARD to grind

you may also be able to transfer some mats

[hearty valve]

but just give up everything else... gotcha

ya know it might be easy to grind mats, but its still hours of time lost..

[last rose]

then pay to transfer the mats and tools

its all copper coin at the end

[hearty valve]

and telling folks that this is what they should do will just make people find other games to play. and once the population dies because of things like this, games lose funding and die.

[last rose]

YOU DONT LOSE ANYTHING

[hearty valve]

but you just keep right on telling folks they should just give up their bases and controlled locations and start over on another map

[last rose]

alright then what do you want? because there are maps with empty land and no queues

[hearty valve]

oh, i run my own server, i'm not dealing with all the stupid chinese antics

i just don't like folks like you telling people they should just move

[last rose]

Like... if you cant find land to grab then idk what to tell you

[last rose]

got it so your just fighting for fighting sake.

[hearty valve]

oh, i'm just disagreeing with a stupid opinion

[last rose]

like my guild lives on one server and transfers to another as raiding parties, then they bring the loot back

[hearty valve]

well thats great for you, but what your telling people isn't that they should raid on other servers... youre telling them they should just start over on another server if they can't get into the one they started on..

[last rose]

we raid on other servers because we dont want to bully our own residents and drive them out.
Cause you know being in a group of 45 and the next guild membership count is in the single digits doesn't seem fair.
So we transfer where the numbers are more even for a better fight

we are also more foucsed on our TC status, so raiding other servers means we can target other magistrates and weaken them

I'm just giving a solution to the current issue;
If people are spending 10hrs in queue, they are not even playing the game in the first place.
If they transfer, they can at least get in, grind, get gear and find targets for c o n t e n t

See when I played at the EA launch, my guild had a band call the "Flesh bandits" from Conq Blade.
The casual group that didn't have much free time based on PVE and made a stockpile. the detachment came, picked up gear, and transfered for fights and after the weekend they came back with more than issued

[mighty wyvern]

I did not know u could transfer to another server tbh. I’m new to the game so this feature may not be very well communicated with new players

[scarlet fern]

they never once said "just leave your server and say screw it" lol youre just trying to start some weird fight cause you cant read. They said to T R A N S F E R to another server using the in game mechanic that makes it 100% possible to go to another server for copper coins you literally earn in game

[mighty wyvern]

How do u do this?

[wet turtle]

Build a guild stage station from your guild workshop or visit the npc in a neutral camp.

[scarlet fern]

^

[mighty wyvern]

Ah ok thanks

[last rose]

yea when you transfer you pack up tools because its way cheaper than mass transporting mats... but overall yea use the mechanics at hand

and you don't lose progress because the resource gather multiplier from higher teir gear and levels dwarfs your past set up times

For context one iron axe swing = 5 stone axe swings

and level 330 mining is 65% more gather, plus you would have a 50% output rate on top of that for T1s, 20% for T2s
So like I gain 115% faster on T1 mats

[mighty wyvern]

This should really be communicated better that this is a thing

[last rose]

fun fact, its a side quest you get @mighty wyvern

[hearty valve]

lmao... thats exactly the intent of their reasoning. Can you transfer your base and all the hours of time you spent making it? hmmm?? No, i didn't think so. I understand what you can and can't transfer, and leaving the server to find a new one with less population is exactly what they are driving at.. I can read just fine thanks.

[last rose]

[last rose]

YOU CAN it just is gonna cost an arm and a leg...

[hearty valve]

so you can move your buildings intact eh?

[last rose]

the only restrictions on what builds is you cant transport Guild Buildings or Siege Engines accoring to the stage UI.
But yes you can craft buildings to just slam down when you arrive. The real question is are you gonna eat the cost

[hearty valve]

i'm not talking about the buildings you build in crafting stations.

[last rose]

and when you hover over buildings, they tell you how much they cost

[hearty valve]

i understand that you can transfer the foundations and walls that you haven't placed yet, but you can't teleport your built bases.. and you can't get the hours spent resourcing that.. thats my point.

[last rose]

actually when you use the demo command you get a refund on parts used

[hearty valve]

my god...you can't just agree that you can't teleport your damn bases...

nor do you get the time back you spent building it in the first place.

[wet turtle]

What's your time worth waiting 6+ hours in a queue?

[last rose]

You gather mats and do it faster the 2nd time around... Because your gathering skills are better and your crafting skills are better. Thats what this efficiency stat is.

Yes it sucks you need to build again but you can likely build a better design. If your willing to spend the copper you can port over all the crafting stations to place down right away. And if you can't log in to even use your base because of a queue, then whats the point of your base being there?

The whole Reason I brought up transfers is I actively see servers with plenty of slots for people to move to.
And you don't even play on these servers so once again you just want to argue for arguments sake

at the end of the day, I care that people can play the game. Being in the queue is not playing

[jade lark]

We are well aware of the queue problem and we are working on it.
thank you for the support and feedback