#forum being overtaken by bullies

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shy apex
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Currently this forum is not a place where players can speak freely.
This forum is being managed by a small group of strongly opinionated like minded individuals, who are in the habit of shutting down, down voting, or negatively responding toward things they do not agree with.

They will begin by opening a small debate, while simultaneously putting down your personal player skill, while speaking facts from outside of context, in order to falsely display their own opinion.

This is fine, however when engaging in conversation, these players will begin to personally attack your level of intelligence, ability to speak English, or player skill on the game.

To make this issue worse, and more oppressive, there seem to be admins that not only permit this attitude, but encourage, and even partake in it.

It's made clear members of this community feel a bond and friendship and loyalty toward one another, however this is akin to police corruption, or favoritism given by those placed as authority figured.

In a democratic society people are given the right to free speech. They are permitted to voice opinions, and engage into debates about them.

Those debates, in civil society, are not resolved by fights or competitions, or by verbally putting people down.

In civil society debates are resolved with words, facts, evidence, conversation.

However, in this community debates are encouraged by admins to be settled by inner duels within the game. This is akin to asking members of a court to fist fight, in order to determine who is guilty.

This creates a might is right society, and is far from an environmental that encourages new players.

stone jolt
shy apex
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This is one member of the inner circle of community members that seems to comment, direspect, and verbally put down members of the community for having different opinions

stone jolt
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The funny part is.. Some things you said were out right stupid

shy apex
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The fact he is here, now, doing exactly as I described, should speak volumes to the opressive state this community is under

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Currently here, insulting my intelligence, calling me stupid. No admins in sight, no supposed problems with his attitude,

rustic flame
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My guy found the feedback forum! Wohoo! Good job.

shy apex
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Bran another member of this small group oppressing this forum

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Bean*

shy apex
full tusk
shy apex
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This is definite oppression.

shy apex
rustic flame
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See, one can not be happy for someone growing now. You just insult them. I feel attacked!

hexed basin
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I never threw out insults cause someone had a differing opinion than mine, unlike someone else

shy apex
stone jolt
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my guy... If you want me to insult you i can ... and i will do it with fasion,
But reall.. I will ask once again... How many hours have you played this damn game?

grand gate
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I like this thread

shy apex
grand gate
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fuck @stone jolt all my homies hate @stone jolt

stone jolt
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If you can not aswert a simple question like that that your opinion is basicly invalid notz cuz its not opinon but cuz you cant back it up with statemnt

grand gate
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skyeater speaking facts 💯

full tusk
hexed basin
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this is what this guy said to me when I was trying to tell him where the feedbacks forumn is, this is direspectful, insulting and oppresive.

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full tusk
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mofo is a jerk

stone jolt
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Here.. will you still argue about it?

full tusk
stone jolt
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Shuyh you..

grand gate
shy apex
full tusk
stark scroll
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I believe that there is a difference between discussing things in a civil manner and outright insulting other players because whether or not people are better in playing certain class. I never see a reason to insult someone over being more better in playing a game than myself.

scarlet ivy
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Please keep the forms or I will be forced to have to use my faculties of moderation (which, as you well know, is something that I try to avoid at all costs). I strongly urge you to try to keep your manners. I understand the frustration you have with the boy, but playing along with him certainly justifies, in one way or another, that you have to apply softwarnings to everyone and that's not the idea.

CALM DOWN, I'm gonna take care of this, ok? warelmSob

full tusk
stone jolt
stone jolt
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Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Essential

rustic flame
shy apex
grand gate
stone jolt
rustic flame
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who likes insurance they will even contact you to extend it

stark scroll
stone jolt
shy apex
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The fact no admin is In any way preventing these insults toward me, or in anyway attempting to tell the several players blatantly insultijgme to stop, it is clear that just as I described the inner authority within the forum, is tightly bound with the members, creating a small corrupt oppressive community

stone jolt
manic rampart
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what did I miss

hexed basin
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who exactly is insulting here?

stone jolt
tender leaf
shy apex
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All you need to do is scroll up to see a series of insults thrown at me, and not a single word said on my end besides identifying what is happening

manic rampart
grand gate
shy apex
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Within any form of intervention, or anyone stopping these oppressive players bullying the community the member are left with nothing to do, but to throw insults back.

stark scroll
shy apex
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To have the admins, then come in to tell oppressed members, they do not have any right to defend themselves, and that the admins have to plans to step in,

stone jolt
full tusk
hexed basin
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you wrote feedback, people disagreed so you insulted people

stone jolt
manic rampart
tender leaf
shy apex
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This creates a situation where players only have one o 2 choices. Leave, take the high road and accept that century is a very unbalanced game plagued by a small oppressive community that thinks they understand what balance and good mechanics are.

Despite anyone in their right min agreeing that the windgaurd salvation surge is extremely glitchy and a mechanical nightmare.

stone jolt
rustic flame
grand gate
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"This game is not pay to win, but I feel like it is"

manic rampart
shy apex
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To argue back these players have argued, that windgaurd is not an unpopular class, and is the most popular in free for all where she works how I am requesting since she is capable of shielding herself , making her an extremely well played character supposedly on that mode

grand gate
stone jolt
tender leaf
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I can DM you the post xD I yoinked before it got deleted by mods

manic rampart
shy apex
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Despite it being the absolute most unpopular class in early levels, the entire conversation instead warps to, personal player skill, where they have ceased conversation, and words and instead begun to speak in pictures, memes or challenge to 1v1s

rustic flame
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Seriously, such disrespect. I even asked how his day is going stare got straight ignore. Talk about human manners.

hexed basin
shy apex
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Again, creating a society where might, is right.

stone jolt
rustic flame
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Acren lol

grand gate
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dyno 🗿

shy apex
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So, you realize this is a post about how the forum is being overtaken by bullies,

tender leaf
shy apex
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ND the same group of guys, are currently in here, sending insulting pictures, words, halfit I'm not even reading just

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Floored by how absolutely deeply flawed you are are.

stone jolt
scarlet ivy
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**Please, everyone, take a breather and let me comment first to clarify certain points because clearly a little silence is needed and so many voices only generate more noise and confusion.

I have read all your messages. I have even read those that have been deleted by automod and manually, and I need it to be understood that an arrogant action simply generates another and thus, which domino effect.

Emotions need to be calmed down a bit because a glass of water generates a storm of discomfort that is impossible to stop.

I also need you to understand, Skyeater, that you are in an extremely defensive position that leads you to act reactively and negatively.

I once again ask for a bit of order and silence to clarify the points and try to reach a negotiated resolution, rather than take the easy path and mute from right to left.**

grand gate
shy apex
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Here's the explanation, when you sit in a group of your friends, insulting people, refusing to talk rational or civil, and instead insult them, challenge them, or say they need to get good,

manic rampart
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oh no mother has arived

stone jolt
grand gate
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pls punish him

stone jolt
shy apex
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Did that answer your question

manic rampart
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he's doing it again 💀

rustic flame
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Mother had eyes on us from start stare

main shell
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STOP WITH THE SLURS HOMIE

shy apex
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Doing what, exactly

stone jolt
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F

shy apex
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U are telling me I cannot answer a question

main shell
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This whole situation is out of hand, and outof pocket.

rustic flame
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Dude telling us we need friends for it, but he is managing on his own lol

shy apex
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Ur tellingme if a member of ur communit comes in, inslts someone repeatedly, then sets themselves up to be insulted back

grand gate
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bruh i misclicked when he slurred fml

shy apex
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And you insult them back

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You then yell ohh gotcha

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?

tender leaf
fair obsidian
rustic flame
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stare run

manic rampart
shy apex
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Hey, Motorola what would u say the average player base is

manic rampart
grand gate
shy apex
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Cause u killing it

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It's very low

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Jsyk

tender leaf
shy apex
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For a free game, about dragons.

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It's very, very low

stone jolt
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not intentionalky but... you are

vital tiger
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i beg any tldr?

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i can see theyve spammed the forums

grand gate
shy apex
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What's the argument u guys are right here killing your own favorite game

rustic flame
stone jolt
vital tiger
manic rampart
tender leaf
vital tiger
grand gate
shy apex
stone jolt
shy apex
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Let's be clear about your arguments

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You disagree, and believe the general player base, and players as they immediately join the game

grand gate
shy apex
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You claim, the first impression many feel.

stone jolt
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I am listening ? where i was wrong telling you to learn to understand how WG surge works?

shy apex
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Is tha the game is fair and very well balanced?

stone jolt
scarlet ivy
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||You little naughty scoundrels, you would already want me to punish you, and it will always be in a fun waytwUwU ||

Back to the topic. Sky: I insist that you are overreacting to things that you are not able to admit that you caused them.

I will not allow disrespect between any of you, and those who know me know well that I pray for empathy, community and harmony above all.

I cannot justify your actions, which are blatantly and excessively insulting members of the community, just because you could not argue your main complaint in question.

You have to understand that you have to take responsibility for the aggressions that your own actions generated.

grand gate
shy apex
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I strongly disagree. I feel as if a large majority of players, especially those who have just got the game, upon first impression - feel the game Is absolutely pay to win,

manic rampart
rustic flame
vital tiger
stone jolt
grand gate
vital tiger
shy apex
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So, as someone who has fully invested yourself into the game and fully understood all mechanics, you have come to the conclusion the game is not pay t win? Remember when I said facts out of context

rustic flame
manic rampart
tender leaf
stone jolt
shy apex
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Like how if u read even 2 sentences into that post about the game being pay to win, I go on to say the game is absolutely not pay to win. As u can get everything without paying.

But, it feels pay to win.

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The fact you can't see entire pictures is why you are not intelligent enough to be calling somebody else stupid

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For example

manic rampart
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🇱

desert summit
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y’all this dude is either a troll or entirely disconnected from casual social norms. why r we feeding the trolls 😭

manic rampart
rustic flame
shy apex
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You argue that the windgaurd is the most played, specifically depending on the game mode. Someone mentioned how she is very popular on free for all where she can shield herself, while debating that she should not be able to shield herself

manic rampart
vital tiger
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is this a troll account?

shy apex
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So, his argument is that the class is very popular when set up the way I request

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And the least played class in game, on some game modes

grand gate
desert summit
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ok fair

manic rampart
manic rampart
shy apex
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Another argument made without seeing the entirepicture

tender leaf
manic rampart
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wait maybe it's Plura, that would explain some things

fair obsidian
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Motorola#75G5F

shy apex
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Was how windgaurd is infact so good because she can dash "across the map" at an ally.

Clearly not an intentional mechanic as anyone in their right mind would belive the dash should have a set distance.

stone jolt
desert summit
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this dude thinks arguing about game mechanics and the community is irl ace attorney 😭

manic rampart
tender leaf
shy apex
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However, in the argument about how salvation surge is not buggy or terrible mechanics he is arguing that wngaurd is so good because she can lock teammates and dash across map?

vital tiger
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idk i dont have issues with wg salvation, just dont use it when a friendly is going behind cover

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you yeet yourself across the map

tender leaf
shy apex
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No, I think you are a small group of cowards who love inbalance, and you hide behind moderators admins, sort of like a gang that is paying off the police.

rustic flame
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🍮

shy apex
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As a result, I have to attempt to make sure I am following the guidelines we are ALL supposed to follow, admins included, even if you are not.

vital tiger
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nope as a WG main there are no issues with salvation surge

hexed basin
manic rampart
vital tiger
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just get used to using it 🤷‍♀️

shy apex
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Ok, Astrid how d you figure

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Let's delve RIGHT Into that

vital tiger
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go ahead

manic rampart
rustic flame
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Yeah Aastrid be careful cuz if you do not agree you do not figure stare

shy apex
stone jolt
grand gate
stone jolt
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You know whats bugged? movement

vital tiger
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i even like using it to get away and cancel the heal

stone jolt
vital tiger
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free escape

rustic flame
vital tiger
shy apex
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So, you believe windgaurd ability to lock her team mates half way across the map, and dash to them in a way tha fails, to keep the cooldown from triggering, allowing her to just keep dashing and locking on team mates?

You think that functions in a way that is mechanically fair and balanced, and exactly as Intended

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? Directly asking

rustic flame
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It does not keep you have to wait stare

vital tiger
shy apex
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Not if the ability failed.

vital tiger
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idk never had it fail

rustic flame
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If the ability failed there is a little cooldown stare

shy apex
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Not the 10 second cooldown, though

vital tiger
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WG is a VERY strong class in all modes imo

shy apex
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Far shorter, fail to shield cooldown

fair obsidian
scarlet ivy
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Now, everyone shut up, I'm going to proceed to speak up and order if you don't mind WarelmStare . This will takes me time because I need to write appropriately and assertively, trying to get any concerns resolved and thus prevent the storm of anger from simply continuing to grow for no reason. And again Skyeater please: sit down, calm down and try to listen and even try to learn something in the process.

I'm going to give you a single opportunity to understand the points raised in a general way and my personal one. Otherwise, unfortunately I have to inform you that a new warning will be applied to you again with a prolonged mute based precisely on the server's code of conduct, which you can access in #rules-old and check them so that it is clear to you.

Self-criticism is necessary to be able to continue with the topic. Otherwise, I'm not going to allow more disrespect or continue with your mind completely obsessed with anger and rage.

scarlet ivy
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@shy apex , first of all welcome to the server and the game. We are going to start this conversation by clarifying that whoever is talking to you has been playing for two years, I'm in the top 100 ranked players, with more than 600hrs playing wg, 200 phantom, 200 marauder, 150 SR and 100 TW, and being WG without a doubt, my main class.

I want you to understand that I'm in a position due to experience and seniority in which I can be objective when speaking and giving my opinion on the mechanics of the game in general and in all its aspects and phases.

I can easily state that the salvation surge is one of the most difficult abilities to mastering, and that's why it becomes so satisfying.

WG is by far the most balanced class in the game, and had to be nerfed multiple times just because of how versatile it is. Obviously I've my personal opinions regarding the last changes and a mechanical problem (bug/issue) of cancellation of her shield if she is shielded by another WG since forever, but that is another story which clearly you do not even know, because you do not have enough experience and hours playing this game as far I see - please don't take this as an offense.

But honestly the discussion about whether windguard has to be buffed or not, is not the important thing in the discussion: it's your level of stubbornness and aggressiveness that you have shown comment after comment, thread after thread.

I highly recommend that you re-evaluate the way in which you manage and relate to the community, before blinding yourself and throwing accusations based solely on your anger and impotence - almost like a tantrum - towards users, moderators and administrators.

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And I can say with certainty that Century has one of the most united, healthy and respectful communities there is, having personally played LoL for 10 years, 17 playing WoW, 5 Rainbow Six among many other games with a high level of toxicity in and out of the game.

This is my last warning before proceeding to continue taking actions and based on the behavior protocol of the server - I remind you again that it is publicly available to everyone in #rules-old - and I will not tolerate more disrespect in the face of ignorance, personal anger and frustration, informing you that unfortunately you have already committed enough offenses to consider your expulsion from the server, and that is not at our personal discretion, but rather we are based on the protocol and discussed with the moderation team.

Check your ways again, think clearly and with a cold mind, before continuing in this stubborn and victimizing position that you yourself chose to have.

shy apex
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You know what, spider, that's one of the first informative responses so far so let me take my time to reply to this. Firstly. You state in your own words salvation surge is one of the most difficult abilities to master.
You say this is what makes it satisfying and go on to say Wg is, and I quote, the most balanced class in the game

However you then proceed to list, numerous issues behind the mechanics to salvation surge, and bring up an issue I was never even aware of.
I am failing to understand how you stand on the side that windgaurd is the most balanced class in the game while also mentioning mechanical issues beyond the ones I myself have mentioned.

You then, specifically use the phrase, that the conversation is not about wether wind gaurd has to be buffed or not.

And you are correct I was never at any point suggesting a buff simply that the mechanics work the way they do in ffa, at all time (which happens to be the mode she is most popular on)

You then tell me that all of this is about my attitude, but have failed to acknowledge the attitude of anyone besides myself.

You are then blindly throwing accusations at me, directly call me impotent which you must not understand the definition of or are not aware that you have branched this conversation now towards my ability to have sex? That is blatant harassment, of a sexual nature and by no means can be tolerated or expressed by members of staff here.

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That is what really goes on here, you, come in, say your opponion, like it Is a matter of fact, and along the way sprinkle insults in and amongst it.
Not me, I have responded to you and other members who have acted his way in kind, however the fact you fail to see this, and are guilty of these actions yourself, really you have no right to moderate this game.

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On top of this, you claim to MAIN wind gaurd, yet are ADAMANT that she is the MOST BALANCED CLASS IN GAME, this is were things begin to be BIASED. One sided oppressive and enough to kill the game.

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I can imagine, very clearly, that you as a top 100 player, maining a class that has so many mechanical issues 95% of players simply don't want to use it?

And you believe it's balanced, because you understand he mechanics well enough, to have the glitches and bugs work to your advantage
To the point you are top 100, but refuse to see any changes in your main class, despite 95% ofplayers feeling the same way I do?

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In fact I'll be you aren't even that great. You are advocating a buggy salvation surge claiming once you learn to use ot, it is satisfying this isn't a conversation about how Good salvation surge it it is a conversation about just how buggy

The fact you see how buggy it is, but consider this a rewarding experience then proceed to main the class and place top 100?

Somethings off there.

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In fact as somebody who mains windgaurd, in competitive top 100? in a lot ways, you are too close to this to see clearly.

That would be like asking an officer to investigate his brother.
You are emotionally attached to the windgaurd, in a way that has encouraged you to adamantly fight for it to remain how it is

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You are blinded. Not me. You yourself admit it is extremely difficult to master, mention bugs to double shielding, I have mentioned bugs to cancel surges, failed surges, the general population considers the ability so difficult to use in general.

Yet you adamantly claim she is the most balanced class in the game
You are bias, too close to see clearly.

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Infact, many things I have said weren't even truly insults, they are just so true that they hurt you to see them.
You don't want the community to believe your main class is a mechanical nightmare.

In your heart, you want the community to feel as if wndgaurd is well balanced, and rewarding.

But the thing is, it isn't. I haven't just pulled things from a hat and decided to say them, these are true oppinions and impressions players have.

If anything, there are thousands of others who feel this way, only they decided to just delete the app.

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Not come onto a discord, and attempt to declare the issues they see

manic rampart
shy apex
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They all deleted the app, man

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I'm speaking for the thousands of players who just deleted app.

brazen zenith
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No offense but like. They didn't stick around so 🤷

scarlet ivy
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Well, let's go in parts.

All your concerns and doubts regarding the class, I already had them and I still have them. You can browse through the threads available in the forum and in other channels (such as q for devs) to know that this is a recurring topic and honestly I'm not going to talk about it because you already had the opportunity to do so, and then you wasted.

2nd, I recommend that you reread and understand the context, because the only thing I am pointing out is your impotence to come to reason (if you have other unresolved insecurities regarding the word impotence, I recommend that you treat them with a health professional suitable for that).

I'm going to emphasize again that aggressiveness and violence only generates more aggressiveness and violence in an active and reactive way; I don't justify that the answers you received are fair, but it is something that unfortunately you have caused and as you will see, they have already stopped attacking you, understanding that you are not in your capacity to understand that you caused the fire and then burned yourself with it.

I hope you understand that the reason for the penalties and warnings for attention is because of your actions and way of interacting/responding, not because of your statements about the class or anything related to the game. It's not too hard to understand that, is it?thisisfine