#Hardest geometry problem I have ever faced?!

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carmine valley
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Is it possible to draw a circle with any pairs of points above x axis such that the circle is tangent to x axis?

gray plume
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l just shifts it left or right depending on where you want it centred

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And r should be positive if you want it above the x-axis

carmine valley
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Can you explain the terms in formula?

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Like what is l and r?

gray plume
carmine valley
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So say I give you points 5,5 and 3,2

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How would you do that

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?

gray plume
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Wait so you want to find the equation of a circle that passes through 2 points and is tangent

carmine valley
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To the x axis

gray plume
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Ok one second

carmine valley
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This circle includes 0,2 and 1,1 and is tangent to x axis

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Given any two points above x axis, would it be possible then?

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@gray plume

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Bro you there?

gray plume
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yes im just trying to make a general formula

carmine valley
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Ok thanks

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I wonder

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Does it go like this?

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The two points can form a chord of the circle, and we know the perpendicular bisector passes through the centre, find a point on the bisector line such that the distance to the two points and the tangent is the same

gray plume
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thats what im thinking

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the problem is theres going to be 2 possible circles

carmine valley
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How is it 2

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?

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@gray plume

gray plume
carmine valley
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Oh I see

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Noice

gray plume
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equation isnt looking too good so far

carmine valley
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Ah looks like there are two cases

gray plume
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solving this gives the x coordinate of the centre of the circle

carmine valley
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Fu….

gray plume
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ill just send you the graph when im done

carmine valley
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You mean this?

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There seems to be two cases: when one of the coordinates of the points match (like either same x or y or both) and when they are different

gray plume
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another thing to do is see that the circle will be tangent at (l,0) where l is the x value for the centre of the circle

carmine valley
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Well yeah

gray plume
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then you can use one of the points to get another chord bisecting it and where they cross will be the centre

carmine valley
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The y coordinate of the centre is equal to the radius

gray plume
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yes

gray plume
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but right now it only seems to be for the case with the smaller circle

gray plume
carmine valley
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Idk how to describe

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But like to find another point you need to know the eq of circle right?

gray plume
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you said we already know 2 points

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the 3rd which is on the line y=0 means we have 3 points

carmine valley
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Oh ok

gray plume
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which is the minimum amount of points to describe a circle

carmine valley
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I see

gray plume
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this is what ive got so far, (x₁, y₁) and (x₂, y₂) are two points that are given, and if you have a slider for you can manually make it pass through the two points on both sides

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ill continue later, but if you want to try and continue earlier then you just need to find a way to make l dependend the two points

delicate magnet
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Considering his username is badwifi