#windows files courrupted on fresh install

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weary verge
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I’m currently rocking a rtx 4070 with a ryzen 9 5950x, atm 1 16gb stick of ram (just until issue is solved) a water cooler (I’ll have to get the brand in a little) and a B450m ac motherboard with a 850w psu.

I recently bought a new nvme as to replace my old Samsung ssd for faster speeds. On intal setup everything was fine windows installed smoothly and I was off and running downloading all my games and app and what not, I played for a few hours before bed and let some of my bugger games download over night. Before I hopped off I plugged in my old ssd just to use it as back up storage and what not but didn’t format it or anything yet as I decided I would do it the next day. I get home from work and there was an error saying it lost my profile settings and my old drive had somehow became the new C drive (might’ve done an auto restart while sleeping?) and everytbing was busted basically. File explorer was crashing, browsers freezing and windows settings not loading on just not functioning how it was supposed to, I then decided to just clean install no old drive and sense then it’ll boot into low res with all the same issues as described weather the installer would just constantly restart or I’d get into the computer and it’s all just messed up still Iv done like 8 clean installs on both drives and the same thing occurs. I went and traded the new ssd for a newer one, same brand just unused and same issue. I installed windows on the drive using my other computer and it was working fine but when I put the ssd back into my computer it automatically corrupts itself. Sfc and dims haven’t helped. I have tired using windows 11 and 10, 10 works every so slightly better allowing me to actually use file explorer and my start bar

lime wind
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you should list all your original parts and specs like ram and the settings you were using on the original kit and the current kit

weary verge
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The only difference in the original kit and now is I took out my extra 2 8gb ram sticks so that I can dial down possible memory failures. And the old ssd of course

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And I was using just 3000 speed in the ram nothing else was changed from default as I don’t feel the need to chase the overlock lol

lime wind
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can you describe and list what you have done so far?

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also what m.2 slot did the new drive go in?

weary verge
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Iv tried multiple reinstalls of windows 11 and 10. Iv tried moving my ram around to different spots and using memory diagnostic. Iv tested the ssd in another computer and it was running fine it seemed as well as tested 2 other ssds in my own computer to no avail. Iv tried using sfc and dism but both dont help any sfc lets me know there’s bunked files but it cant fix them and dism will say no source files found. There’s been a time or two where sfc will say it’s fine then say it’s not the next scan, dism will say drive is repairable and it’ll will repair or it’ll say there’s nothing wrong either yet no change.

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Also I only have 1 ultra m.2 spot which is in use

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Well it would be if it would work

weary verge
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A little extra info, I installed windows and updated and verified that there was no corrupted files at all and dism passed good too on my gf pc then I plugged it back into mine and sfc said no corrupt files dism started saying the component store is repairable. I used restore health and it’s been stuck on 62.3% for a minute now

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I ran sfc again and now the files are corrupted

lime wind
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ok so all the different ssds you have tested in your system that are known working do not work properly?

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probably a cpu or motherboard problem and not ram

pale fable
# weary verge A little extra info, I installed windows and updated and verified that there was...

moving a windows install from 1 pc to another does not help you here much and basically just wastes your time. do a process of elimination instead of repeating the same steps over and over.

  1. reset bios to factory defaults, dont touch anything else and try if this resolves the issue

  2. check for bios updates and update bios if u can. then test it out if this resolves the problem

  3. disassemble the PC, then re-assemble it but only connect the bare minimum to make it run then install Windows:

CPU
CPU Cooler
Motherboard
RAM x 1
Storage Drive x 1
PSU
GPU
HDMI or DP Cable
Monitor
Windows 10 or 11 installer
Keyboard

4A. If it's successful, start plugging one component at a time. Do the Ethernet cable first so you can get internet and download the drivers you need: GPU, Chipset, windows updates, etc. Then continue on with setting up the PC like it was:

Mouse
Back in the case
2nd stick of RAM
2nd Storage Drive
All other components/peripherals (one at a time)

4B. If it's unsuccessful, your culprit is on the parts list on Step 3

weary verge
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And yes I tried 3 different ssds. And the only reason I used her oc was to see if maybe it was the usb or somthing of that sort but it’s gotta be one of my main parts

lime wind
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if reseating the cpu doesnt fix anything and resetting bios and re-configuring any required settings also doesnt fix anything, i'd personally be looking to just replace the motherboard, since a b550 is decently "cheap"

lime wind
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swapping drives between computers that have an OS already will usually have issues

weary verge
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They were all fresh install of windows

pale fable
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did u install windows on YOUR pc or the OTHER pc?

lime wind
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ok then cpu and or motherboard are the culprits

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or most likely

weary verge
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I installed on hers because it was corrupting on mine

pale fable
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moving a storage drive with windows on it specially windows 11 can make it go haywire due to security keys

lime wind
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so like i said above, i'd be looking to replace the motherboard because the cpu is the least likely part to fail

weary verge
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Iv been using win 10 bcs even though its messed up it runs better then 11

lime wind
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you also gain gen 4 nvme speeds with b550 and pcie 4.0 on the gpu slot

weary verge
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With 11 I can’t even use file explorer

lime wind
pale fable
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your issue isnt with windows itself, it's a component making windows go haywire

weary verge
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When I would install 11 on my pc file explorer crashes, the settings crash and browsers don’t work at all I just status access violation or somthing

pale fable
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reinstalling windows with the component still present and making windows go fck itself aint gonna solve your problem, hence why you need to isolate the issue

weary verge
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On 10 I can at least hit the windows key and see a start menu

lime wind
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this all sounds like a cpu or motherboard problem

weary verge
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Ye I know but the reason I did it in her was to verify the drive wasn’t cooked

pale fable
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honestly looks like a driver trying to run but the component isnt acting like it's supposed to and windows basically freezes while it waits

lime wind
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get some thermal paste and reseat the cpu

weary verge
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That what it’s sounding like I was just looking a b550 with bios flash bcs I don’t have my old cpu and some thermal paste

lime wind
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in the past with older systems, i've had issues where windows would partially lock up because of an issue with my sata ports or cables and your issue sounds similar to mine

pale fable
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it's definitely a hardware problem

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so to solve it, the cause needs to be isolated. and if u want to narrow it down instead of throwing new parts at it, u'll have to spend time

weary verge
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It’s just weird bcs the problem didn’t start until I put this new ssd in. My board is very very old so maybe it was just waiting to croak

lime wind
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@weary vergehave you ever updated the bios before?

weary verge
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Yes when I got my new cpu

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But I tossed the old one

lime wind
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ok so only once?

weary verge
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Yes

lime wind
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there might be some compatibility issues

weary verge
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I was told I should only update it when I have too

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Well

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I’m planning on getting a new board

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Could just go for it

lime wind
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generally update it when something doesnt work or fixes stability issues

pale fable
lime wind
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this may all be an issue that would be resolved with as bios update

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get the new drive out and only have the original drive in there and update the bios by downloading it from another pc to a usb drive

pale fable
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a new windows update that probably doesnt work with an old bios anymore

weary verge
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Yea it’s just spooky cause the wrong update can make it so you can’t use it with what you got on hand but as of now. I’ll try anything

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Bet

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Should I get the latest?

pale fable
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latest stable version

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no beta bios, u dont need a beta one since u're not using an X3D part

weary verge
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Ok cool

lime wind
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it's possible he already has the latest non beta

weary verge
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Now I will say I wiped my old drive as it was just saying the same stuff? Maybe that answers the bios question

pale fable
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just start from scratch

weary verge
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I tried a fresh install as well with my old and same thing happened

lime wind
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honestly i'd just take out all the drives when updating the bios just in case the system crashes

weary verge
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But I can update then try with old drive

pale fable
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u dont need any storage drive to update bios

weary verge
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Yee but to see if it fixes the issue

pale fable
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that's not how you're supposed to do it

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do one thing at a time

lime wind
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you're updating from the usb drive the bios file will be on. dont need storage installed for that

weary verge
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Yes I know but AFTER the update how will I know if it’s fixed

pale fable
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you bought a new drive didnt you?

weary verge
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Yes

pale fable
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make use of it

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eliminates the old drive as a culprit

weary verge
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I like that reasoning

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I’ll update you guys soon

pale fable
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gl on it

weary verge
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Unfortunately not the fix my friends. I didn’t try a fresh install as I used the same usb for both things and formatted it to make sure it wouldn’t hurt it when I updated. I’m currently putting the media creation tool back on the usb and will try one more time with a clean install before I bite the bullet and get a new motherboard and I can work from there cause I can do a clean install of all parts.

pale fable
weary verge
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I can do thag as all I did was just swap our monitor plugs. So I can still “troubleshoot” mine while actually being able to use a computer again

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I’ll hit with another clean install as a last try and I only have one m.2 spot sadly

lime wind
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swap monitor plugs?

weary verge
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Also any recommendations on thermal paste? I think I’m gonna get some of that regaurdless

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I just switched which pc is being displayed on which monitor

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So I can sit in my spot and my keyboard and stuff

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I’m jus gonna use hers till I can fix mine

lime wind
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i've been using arctic mx-4 for most of my pc but i also have some mx-6 need ot try

weary verge
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Does it matter? Not in like a cheap way but name brand but do they actually like change a whole lot?

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The Mx-6 looks nice. Iv never used anytbing out of a tube everytime Iv upgraded my cpu I got a new fan with it so Iv never had to actually buy any

pale fable
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it's like a +/- 2ºC difference on average between the popular brands

weary verge
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Ahhh I might go ahead and just get the Mx-6 I like the blue lol even though I won’t see it

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Also is the tube a one use? Or use some save some

pale fable
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u can buy the bigger tubes, they usually end up cheaper per ounce

weary verge
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The one im lookin at is 2gs idk how much your supposed to apply for a “serving”

pale fable
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i usually put about a green pea size amount

weary verge
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Also thank you both very very much for your help I was completely utterly stumped and frustrated

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Oh wow. That doesn’t seem like a lot but I suppose after you “squash” it out it’ll cover the surface area

pale fable
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on AM5, i usually put more but u have an AM4

weary verge
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Yeee I wanna do am5 but I’d have to get pretty ouch a whole new kit

pale fable
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yeah, it really gets squashed pretty thinly unless your thermal paste is almost dry

weary verge
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Is there a proper way to store it while not using it? Or can I just shelf it

pale fable
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seal properly, put in a ziplock bag, follow manufacturer storage instructions

weary verge
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Ok cool thank you

lime wind
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honestly i've been using dried chickpea sized blobs these days

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pea size is too small sometimes

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i'd rather use a little too much than not enough

pale fable
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can always go for more

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green pea size to us is just like a standard to avoid it over spilling on the sides

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covers roughly 95% of the IHS

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i remember back then they say to use about the same size of a grain of rice and im like "what kind of rice are u guys eating that it's so big?!"

lime wind
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i've found people underestimate what size a pea is

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so i say "large" pea

pale fable
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lmao

lime wind
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or dried chickpea

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dried chickpea is slightly larger than a "normal" sized pea

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or i should say dry

pale fable
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one of our techs say "half a peanut, not the shell"

lime wind
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"1/4 the size of a half penny farthing"

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i have no idea if that is a thing but im sure someone would say it

pale fable
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i've met others that say "size of acetaminophen tablet"