#Black screen after GPU update

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grizzled steeple
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So, I started updating my GPU, then I went to the bathroom. When I came back, my computer was off and when I tried booting it up, the screen stayed black. I tried using the Ctrl+windows key+ shift+b thing and restarting multiple times. I don't really know what to do here

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I'm using a 4070ti

raw spruce
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Ah yes, the failed driver update

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What cpu you got?

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And just to be sure, were you updating gpu drivers or was a it a gpu bios update?

left plinth
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Issue 1: Doesn't know if CPU has iGPU since he doesn't know the CPU

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@grizzled steeple Can you confirm that the computer is on

raw spruce
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Wait he doesn’t know his cpu?

left plinth
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nope

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So computer is on. @grizzled steeple Can you check the monitor settins

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see if the input is on HDMI or DP?

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Make sure it matches your cable

grizzled steeple
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It's a display port

left plinth
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your monitor, what is the input setting on your monitor

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use the OSD

jaunty stump
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i would shut the pc down and make sure there is any display out from the gpu

grizzled steeple
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I didn't move anything or change anything outside of updating a gou. And I use avast driver updater to help with updates

left plinth
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Can you just make sure that the monitor is on and has the correct input setting

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These are important details

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Please stop side stepping

flint siren
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side note, avast driver updater is actual garbage

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stop using it.

grizzled steeple
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Oh hell it now turns on

left plinth
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What was it?

raw spruce
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Aight I’m back. To the OP just plug a display cable into the motherboard and see if you can get a display

left plinth
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monitor input setting?

grizzled steeple
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And back to no signal

raw spruce
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And nvm again

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So yeah test your motherboards display ports

grizzled steeple
flint siren
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so quick note, avast driver updater does not care if your pc sleeps during its installing, thus it can VERY QUICKLY break stuff..

left plinth
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Let's not talk about this right now

grizzled steeple
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Alrighty then

flint siren
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i mean just use gexperience if you want an idiot proof way to do it..

left plinth
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he's quick to side step important questions smh

grizzled steeple
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Turned on for a second, and now it's not on

flint siren
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otherwise you kinda either need to figure out if the monitor is recieving anything or if avast totally borked your windows install..

grizzled steeple
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Avast probably did

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I'll have to reinstall windows, won't I?

left plinth
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How many DP inputs does your monitor have?

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Dude... Quit just

flint siren
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thats really hard to do as windows NORMALLY defaults to a default display driver so something at least displays...

left plinth
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How many DP inputs does your monitor have

flint siren
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try to switch dp on monitor and then on gpu and try to force a reset.

grizzled steeple
flint siren
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by that i mean try one, then the other if the first one doesnt work, and obligatory, "clear cmos" comment.

left plinth
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Alright. Try using a different DP port on the GPU

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see if that works

grizzled steeple
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None of them are working

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@left plinth

left plinth
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Alright. By any chance, can you take a picture of the motherboard inside the computer case

grizzled steeple
left plinth
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can you angle it lower?

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like i would like to see the bottom

grizzled steeple
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Like this?

flint siren
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it is a b550

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so amd

raw spruce
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Damn

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That complicates things

flint siren
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unless you for whatever reason have a g series amd cpu, you do not have onboard graphics

raw spruce
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Like I said just try any of the display ports on the board

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Maybe we get lucky

left plinth
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I think they have a 5900X

raw spruce
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Or not

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Welp

left plinth
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or a 5800X

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if i recall from their name a while ago, it had 5800X and 3080

raw spruce
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If this is indeed a failed driver then you are sol unless you have a second card to swap in and remove the bad drivers

grizzled steeple
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Well it's a good thing I have a spare 3080 lying around

left plinth
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Just wondering, did you ever try to turn off your computer

grizzled steeple
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I did

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Multiple times

left plinth
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...

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that might complicate things

grizzled steeple
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When the monitor turned on for a moment, it was off for a few minutes

left plinth
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Ragna, does avast update BIOS?

flint siren
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nope.

left plinth
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k good

raw spruce
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Oh wait you’ve got a spare, nice

grizzled steeple
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And man, I was hoping to have a good time getting drunk

left plinth
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The issue seems to be driver related though, not the hardware itself

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the 3080 would use similar drivers

flint siren
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the issue is, if avast saw a driver update, it goes through windows to force driver updates...

raw spruce
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Might still display at least, always good to try

grizzled steeple
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How would I roll back the update when I switch out the drivers?

flint siren
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so since "windows" was trying to install stuff, it might of just borked windows as a whole idk how windows updating a graphic driver normally goes...

raw spruce
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Swap it in and see if you can get a display. Then install ddu to remove the bad drivers

flint siren
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i tend to try and avoid that concept at all possible.

left plinth
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Wait

flint siren
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if at all possible*

grizzled steeple
flint siren
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also my windows literally had an update last night, so for all i know avast might of trie dto do the windows update also

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and well......

jaunty stump
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there is a chance you can get the gpu to work by removing the card, start the system and let it boot to windows, then shutting it down again and reinstalling the gpu

flint siren
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that would be my next suggestion

jaunty stump
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the other option is to hit the restart button 3 times during boot up to force the system into repair mode

left plinth
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I was about to suggest getting a secondary drive

raw spruce
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Bro what is all this talk of avast, did I miss something?

jaunty stump
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but! do you even have display out when you restart the system?

flint siren
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remove gpu, id also clear cmos but thats just me, start pc and let it fault, and try repair mode.

left plinth
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or finding the USB stick you used to install Windows

flint siren
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also could do that. using that repair mode to see if it even sends signal anymore.

left plinth
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you can launch into windows with a secondary drive, then repair windows on the main ssd

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you can technically run repairs on another drive using command prompt

jaunty stump
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you can also do repair from the windows installer usb

left plinth
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lets try the remove GPU option first and letting it boot by itself

flint siren
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to MY knowledge of using avast on all of 1 pc at work, it cant force bios updates on anything let a lone a GPU not made by avast...but it does just root into windows update thingy..and use that to do its stupidity so..YMMV type of thing...

left plinth
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see if auto repair does anything on reboot/attempted reboot of the system

jaunty stump
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it sucks that you cant boot to safe mode on boot up like in windows 7 and older without going into windows first

grizzled steeple
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It's on again

left plinth
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oh

grizzled steeple
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ITS FINALLY ON

flint siren
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yeah it will click on for a few seconds

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and probably die.

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when the driver loads

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if you can get to bios thats very useful

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it means its the actual driver/windows

grizzled steeple
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Well, it booted up and hasn't turned back off yet

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Everything's loading correctly

left plinth
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are you in BIOS or windows

flint siren
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oh good you at your desktop?

grizzled steeple
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Windows

left plinth
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oh good

raw spruce
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When you say on are you in bios or windows

grizzled steeple
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On home screen

raw spruce
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Ok there we go

flint siren
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great go to nvidia's website

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and download ur latest drivers

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install them lol

raw spruce
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Hold up

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Ddu first

left plinth
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Use Nvidia Clean installation

flint siren
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can just use clean install

raw spruce
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Just clean out all the display drivers

grizzled steeple
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Seems all I had to do was completely turn it off for a few minutes

flint siren
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if it sees broken stuff it totally uninstalls

left plinth
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nvidia clean install should be good enough

grizzled steeple
left plinth
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don't use DDU

jaunty stump
flint siren
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using DDU, but honestly nvidia's clean install works fine...

grizzled steeple
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How do I do a clean install?

flint siren
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theres a check box for it

raw spruce
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Yes use ddu

left plinth
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@raw spruce Nvidia clean install is fairly good tbh

flint siren
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errr here hold on

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do i have a driver on my pc anymore...

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sure do

left plinth
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@grizzled steeple wait, can you check device manager really quick though?

flint siren
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-insert "generic Pnp adaptor here-"

grizzled steeple
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And Ryzen 7 5800

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32gb ram

flint siren
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so you do not have a igpu lol

left plinth
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Go to Device Manager

grizzled steeple
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Rip

grizzled steeple
left plinth
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then find "display adapters"

jaunty stump
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press windows key and x on the keyboard to get the menu and click device manager

left plinth
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can you SS and send us what you see?

flint siren
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go to "custom install" and the option is that box.

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when you are done doing whatever mystic is asking you too do.

left plinth
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I just wanna see what driver it is currently using

flint siren
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id hope windows default

grizzled steeple
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Would it just be better if I shared my screen?

left plinth
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just SS and send pic

jaunty stump
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snipping tool

left plinth
flint siren
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i mean thats what i just used

left plinth
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Like this

jaunty stump
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snip & sketch

flint siren
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i have it on my homebar though at the bottom of my screen

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i use it a lot for ff14...

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think there is a command for it though like crt alt s?

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or some crap.

left plinth
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Win + Shift + S

flint siren
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^ that

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not even close but that.

grizzled steeple
flint siren
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right click it

left plinth
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right click and hit properties

flint siren
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and then find driver version/info

left plinth
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This should tell us everything

grizzled steeple
flint siren
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kay so id clean install whatever latest driver from nvidia again, and remove avast' driver helper thingy..

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so this doesnt happen again.

left plinth
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Now that we know it is running on a proper nvidia driver, install the lastest game ready driver from Nvidia website

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i think this should be the latest

flint siren
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use gexperience for idiot proof way to do it, it even tells you when its available and what not with very annoying popups

left plinth
flint siren
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gexperience also has the added benefit of SHADOWPLAY! which i dont use so it has no benefit for me but other people do so you know, to each their own

left plinth
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While you are clicking through the options during installation, make sure you click the botton check box

flint siren
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wow i sucked at drawing that circle

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dear lord...

left plinth
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Select Custom Install. not "express installation"

flint siren
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anyways time to walk doggos bbl glad it worked out well at least.

left plinth
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Yep

grizzled steeple
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and time for me to get back to getting drunk

flint siren
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another side note, if you didnt pay for avast i suggest removing it totally.

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as it does nothing windows defender wont do..

grizzled steeple
flint siren
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and if you go on extremely sus sites nothing will save your pc anyways once you download a file so you know....sol either way.

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and should just be able to add remove program it in windows

grizzled steeple
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Soo... It went back to being a black screen. I did a ddu, the clean install and all that and it worked for a minute then it went straight back to black

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I'm thinking I'll have to go somewhere and let someone else deal with this

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Oh wait