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dull otter May 25, 2023, 4:07 AM

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I've never seen this.
Was playing the Way finder beta and after like an hour game crashed and appear to have lost amd driver. Is this likely due to beta game or just shit Radeon driver?

cosmic warren May 25, 2023, 4:24 AM

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check which driver its using inside device manager

dull otter May 25, 2023, 4:36 AM

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I had to reinstall Radeon driver. Tried loading the game again and got the same result after about 5 min. Now trying to get driver installed again lol. Guess I'm done with that beta.

dull otter May 25, 2023, 4:57 AM

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cosmic warren check which driver its using inside device manager

okay, I just reinstalled drivers...loaded Hogwarts which I have never had an issue with and I got the same result. I keep losing amd driver and it reverts to some default windows driver after I reset the computer. I have the iGpu disabled in device manager as well.

haughty wharf May 25, 2023, 10:09 AM

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Oh man, I know this problem and it’s going to be a bitch to tackle

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I’m going to hope and guess you recently updated windows which created a driver conflict between windows igpu driver and your graphics card driver. The easiest fix would be to roll back to a point before the windows update using system restore, then if your system has no issues disable the igpu driver from updating itself, so change the windows update settings in the Local group policy editor.

dull otter May 25, 2023, 1:18 PM

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@haughty wharf I did steps 1 and 3 in this guy's tips. So far it's okay but I'm getting to that point where you just stop holding your breath lol. I played Hogwarts for about twenty minutes without any issues but didn't bother playing the Wayfinder Beta anymore.

I feel like this is because the cpu has graphics built in. This is the first cpu I have ever had with integrated graphics. I have never had this kind of issue on any other machine. OR maybe this damn Windows 11 has a more aggressive approach than Win 10 did?

All I know is so far I am not having the most exciting experience with AM5 and Win 11 so far...kind of a kick in the teeth after spending another $2000 on this already expensive machine lol.

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Over the past few months, my Windows PC has developed an annoying issue. Sometimes when I boot up, I launch a game or video editing program... and get hit by

dull otter May 25, 2023, 1:59 PM

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dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 5:37 PM

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still having issues with Radeon driver just dying...so annoying.

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:05 PM

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Damn, and I was hoping the fix would be easy for once

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:06 PM

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No, it's so damn random and I've tried everything...I'm prettys sure I've worn out DDU.
So damn frustrating.

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:06 PM

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Is it switching to the igpu?

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:06 PM

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I have played for 5 hours and not problems...the. sudden ly.it has issues. then 2 hours no problems.....then 20 min...

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no it is not switching, iGpu is disabled....it's doing Radeon driver and reverting to a default windows driver or some crap

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:07 PM

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That message still comes up?

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:07 PM

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so then I have to reinstall and start all over.

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no I don't get that message anymore.

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:09 PM

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So when it switches while gaming what happens exactly

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:09 PM

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Ialso have the GPU left at default settings and still.

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The screen goes black.

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Then it looks like it is reverting the display driver or something because I have to do a reset on machine and when it's back up....adrenaline software and driver is gone....and I have to reinstall.

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What are the chances that this flare ram is just junk?

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:12 PM

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What brand of 7900 xtx?

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:12 PM

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sapphire

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nitro

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:12 PM

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Ram would not cause this issue considering it’s occurred for others with completely different setups

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:13 PM

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when gaming thisachine uses so little resources it's crazy..

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like 60% GPU most the time and 1%cpu...very little VRAM etc...nothing is ever hot.

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:15 PM

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Idk about 1% cpu but the other values can be normal depending on the game you’re playing

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Are you using hw monitor for those values?

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:15 PM

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today it's Diablo 4

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hw monitor and the adrenalin software readouts.

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:16 PM

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Yeah I don’t expect that game to pull much tbh

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Especially on the hardware you have

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:16 PM

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just don't understand how it can be fine for hours and then out of no where it's dumb....then it's fine....then it's doing it's shit again.

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:17 PM

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You’re on windows 11 right

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:17 PM

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yes.

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I did order a trident z5 ram kit to try and see if I have the same issues.

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:18 PM

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Yeah it’s the exact same reoccurring problem. Could you go into event viewer and see what events you got before the latest crash

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:18 PM

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I can go into event viewer but honestly I wouldn't know what to look for

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:21 PM

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Hmmm, I would need a custom view for administrative events

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:22 PM

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haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:23 PM

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Oh awesome, do you know what time the last crash was on

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:23 PM

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like within last 15 min...lol

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i mean it probably wouldnt be hard to reproduce lol

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All this crap started again today....and I had been gaming in both Tower of Fantasy and D4 all day yesterday with zero issues

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:24 PM

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Did nothing change between yesterday and today? Any updates?

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:25 PM

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nothing changed.

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after this happening a few times i decided to go and set ram overclocking back to default...as in disabled Expo becuase i thought that might be the issue....but nope. it still happens

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:26 PM

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I’m telling you the ram is probably not the issue. Like 99% sure

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:27 PM

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okay

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So what do you think it is?

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:27 PM

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I’m almost certain you could switch to windows 10 and fix this but I want to see if I can fix it on windows 11

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:28 PM

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dull otter So what do you think it is?

It’s just a common windows 11 problem with 7900 xtx

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:28 PM

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yeah i have never had an issue on win 10

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really?

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So basically my $1200 gpu is damn near worthless to me in win 11 lol thats nice

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:30 PM

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We’re you able to find the events in event viewer?

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:30 PM

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what events? sorry when it comes to this events thing i dont even know what to look for

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haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:32 PM

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Yeah Id have to view your screen to make it easy tbh. Also reading up on this problem again

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:33 PM

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So, there is a chance that to get past this i can maybe just install windows 10?

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:37 PM

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hold up reading something just to be sure but yes, more then likely. There's also something I want to try but that'll be in a moment. Doubt it'll work but just to check my boxes

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okay I think I'm ready for what we're going to try.

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 6:42 PM

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okay

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Also if you want to go into a audio room we can do that as well

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 6:48 PM

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I'm in there now

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 7:33 PM

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haughty wharf I'm in there now

problem.still persisting

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now this happened when I tried to reser machine

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haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 8:10 PM

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Yes! Hard error codes, I can work with this when I get back

haughty wharf Jun 3, 2023, 8:11 PM

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dull otter now this happened when I tried to reser machine

I don’t think this should happen again, should just be from the chipset driver update

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 9:02 PM

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haughty wharf I don’t think this should happen again, should just be from the chipset driver u...

I'm the interim I have removed the 7900xtx and lit in a 3060xc...I want to test for results. So dang mad right now it's not even funny

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 9:44 PM

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So far everything is working fine with the Nvidia GPU. So if whatever your next attempt at a solution is doesn't work...them I think I'm going back to an Nvdia GPU. This is sad. a $1200 GPU I can't even return lol.

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 10:08 PM

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error - womdows killing radeon drivers 7900xtx

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error - windows killing radeon drivers 7900xtx

dull otter Jun 3, 2023, 11:30 PM

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so far this isy new solution.

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 12:47 AM

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I am sendig the Sapphire card back to new egg for an exchange...i cant refund it but i can exchange it...maybe ill just sell it or just hold on to it for when windows and radeon get along one day.

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:25 AM

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Yeah I just got back.

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:25 AM

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I see that. well i guess you can see how i took care of the issue lol

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game and machine have been running the smoothest its ever ran.

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:26 AM

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Yup, do you want to still work on it or you’ll just go through with the exchange?

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Ebay is also an alternative if you want your money back for the most part.

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:26 AM

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im just doing the exchange...should end up with a new card and ill likely just sell the damn thing if i dont here of a resolution to the issue in the near future

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I find it so weird that its a 7900xtx and windows issue.

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:27 AM

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Wait what are you exchanging for?

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:28 AM

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litereally just exchanging it for the exact card...i just want a new unopened card so if i do decide to sell...it may have a little better value

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:28 AM

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dull otter litereally just exchanging it for the exact card...i just want a new unopened ca...

Ah gotcha

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:28 AM

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newegg will not let me do a refund but apparently can do an exchange lol

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:30 AM

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dull otter I find it so weird that its a 7900xtx and windows issue.

Back in the day I had an rx 380 and when dark souls 3 released it was unplayable with amd drivers for almost 4 months. It sucks but stuff like that happens. At the very least your issue has been around for a few weeks so I’m sure a fix is being worked on but yeah. Only hard fix I can think of is switching to windows 10 but it’s not a guarantee

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:31 AM

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haughty wharf Back in the day I had an rx 380 and when dark souls 3 released it was unplayable...

Ya i almost did that and it would have cost me a whole lot less lol, but seeing that the machine was playing nice with an nvdia 3060 in it....made me just say screw it...i cant handle this, im going to cave into the Ngreedia card.

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:32 AM

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I completely understand

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:32 AM

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This thing performs much like a 6900xt and some areas better. So i guess it will do for a while.

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:33 AM

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Wait hold up you still have a 6900xt right?

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:34 AM

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yes its in my work workstation i use for my business.

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:34 AM

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Oh okay I was gonna say use that. That is far better then a 3060

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:35 AM

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The thing i am liking about Nvdia card that i notices right away is....absoletly zero screen flicker at all....every damn radeon build i do....has screen flicker....like a refresh rate or sync issue...its very slight but its noticeable

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:35 AM

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What monitor you got?

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And refresh rate?

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:36 AM

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gigabyte 34" ultrawide with 144 hz

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:36 AM

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Freesync or gsync?

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:36 AM

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but i get that flicker on every monitor

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its freesync

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:36 AM

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Oh wait it’s on every monitor, nvm then lol

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Do you use the same display cable?

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:37 AM

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yes...even on my 55" oddyseey and my 32" G5 and another 180p 165hz

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i have used MANY different cables....to no avail

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:37 AM

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Wow, that’s absurd

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:37 AM

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i swear its a radeon issue

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i have built like 6 machines this year and they are all radeon and every one of them does it

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These nvdia cards though....hasnt had the flicker even once.

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the flicker is also only during gaming, reg desktop apps it is not an issue

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i have or do have multiple 6700xt cards, a 6800xt card, 6900xt card and this 7900xtx......every one of them does it

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:41 AM

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I got nothing, Ill have to test some higher end amd cards when I get a chance. Only one I have on hand is an rx 6600 and I’ve never seen that behavior

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:42 AM

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well if you were west coast id send you a 7900xtx lol

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sadly today just showed me that its going to be a long while before i put faith back in amd drivers.

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:44 AM

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Yeah I’ve had my fun share of experiences with them. Switching to nvidia enlightened me abit but I still love solving software problems with amd drivers. They’re at least far better they used to be

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:45 AM

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For sure...and ive had great experience with a lot of cards and machines from them up until this mess. I actually never planned to buy another Nvdia card again....guess i was wrong.

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:45 AM

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dull otter well if you were west coast id send you a 7900xtx lol

All good. I’ll be building some systems for sale soon so I’m sure I’ll get one to play with

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:46 AM

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haughty wharf All good. I’ll be building some systems for sale soon so I’m sure I’ll get one t...

Well if you ever decide to build an AMD with the 7900xtx...let me know...if i still have it laying around unused...i may sell it to you for a huge discount.

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:46 AM

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I’ll keep that in mind

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:47 AM

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Kind of the least i can do for all your patience and help.

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 4:48 AM

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All good man. Like I said love solving pc problems, fun past time for me. Hope everything goes well from here for ya

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 4:48 AM

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haughty wharf All good man. Like I said love solving pc problems, fun past time for me. Hope e...

Lets hope...otherwise i may just blow all these machines up lol.

tulip coral Jun 4, 2023, 9:41 PM

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dull otter So basically my $1200 gpu is damn near worthless to me in win 11 lol thats nice

Welcome to AMD

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 9:43 PM

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tulip coral Welcome to AMD

I can’t even really blame them because it’s windows fault for overriding drivers

tulip coral Jun 4, 2023, 9:43 PM

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Downgrade to windows 10?

tulip coral Jun 4, 2023, 9:43 PM

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haughty wharf I can’t even really blame them because it’s windows fault for overriding drivers

Do you know how to turn off those updates?

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 9:43 PM

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An update shouldn’t nuke your graphics drivers like that

tulip coral Jun 4, 2023, 9:43 PM

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I did that when I was running a 6800 XT it seemed to help

tulip coral Jun 4, 2023, 9:44 PM

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haughty wharf An update shouldn’t nuke your graphics drivers like that

Haha yeah, that happened all the time to me until I turned off those updates from windows

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 9:44 PM

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tulip coral Do you know how to turn off those updates?

It’ll still happen regardless, tons of post explaining this. Windows is just stupid

tulip coral Jun 4, 2023, 9:44 PM

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haughty wharf It’ll still happen regardless, tons of post explaining this. Windows is just stu...

Is that windows 11? Once I turned off that setting in advanced system settings in 10 it stopped happening

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 9:45 PM

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Yeah mainly windows 11

tulip coral Jun 4, 2023, 9:45 PM

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Wow F

haughty wharf Jun 4, 2023, 9:45 PM

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Part of the reason I’ve stuck to 10 for so long, I’ve just heard to many varying issues at this point

tulip coral Jun 4, 2023, 9:48 PM

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At least he’s running a 7700x so switching back to windows 10 wouldn’t be bad

dull otter Jun 4, 2023, 10:58 PM

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tulip coral At least he’s running a 7700x so switching back to windows 10 wouldn’t be bad

I just pulled the card out and went and grabbed a 4070 for now...zero issues running an Nvdia card....which is silly to be honest.
I dont really want to go back to 10 at this point...ill just keep the 7900xtx around and hope that one day Win 11 and AMD can play nice together again.

#error - windows killing radeon drivers 7900xtx