Ranger's Critical Shot

[boreal ravine]

After the recent big update, and like the other updates/adjustments, rangers aren't getting the love.

DEX is ranger's main stat which gives high crit rate and block rate. Having the block penetration bonus removed from the Critical Shot leaves critical buff alone. There's just too much crit rate items ingame and acrobats aren't really getting the benefit with these extra crit chances.

The recent balancing for ranger was entirely for PVP purposes and PVE doesn't really benefit from block penetration but leaving the Critical Shot with just crit chance buff makes it worthless.

SUGGESTION:
Change ranger's Critical Shot buff, add PVE focused effects like:
-adds a chance to reduce enemies accuracy
-decrease MP consumption of skills
-creates a "magical" arrow, so that rangers does not have to consume arrows (what's the point of having stacks of arrow in your inventory bag for which gets consumed quickly)
-or just remov...nevermind

Inputs are welcome of course

[sacred anvil]

Looking forward to this being implemented in a year during the next round of balance changes

[rustic bane]

They could change it to be somewhat similar to an item in League of Legends. 2 Attacks on the same target grants a stack and on the 3rd stack it deals more damage

[zealous sluice]

Maybe make it +20% critrate and +20% critdmg
So it has a purpose early ranger gets to have a nice dmg boost and for PvP I don’t know how to balance it, but for pve rangers atleast it has a usage

[autumn shore]

just add pve damage instead of cd

[true prawn]

+5% should be enough, but yes,, with the current effects available, only pve dmg would make sense.

[dreamy kiln]

Yeah. Best choice is to add PVE Dmg on Critical Shot Buff. The balance was for pvp if you add cd on it, it will again affect pvp. PVE Dmg is best since ranger pve dmg sucks.

[next jolt]

PvE Damage sounds like a good solution to me!! This way, PvP is not influenced and the PvE Peeps get some well deserved love

[crimson hearth]

P V E. D A M A G E.

[dawn hamlet]

Please PVE damage

[zealous sluice]

maybe even 10%, because it still wont be higher than any bp or knight DPS and to be honest a bit better over all

[balmy slate]

Change to passive buff, enchanted arrow, dealing additional dmg per hit. something like 10% of current dmg x 10 int

only reason I'd put int over dex is cause dex is strong.

[buoyant atlas]

+1

[craggy harness]

+1

[honest cosmos]

+1 For PvE dmg. 5-10% seems fine to get a little closer to other classes. Still wont be nowhere near them with similar gear. But that is the price we pay for range.

[acoustic dune]

+1

[twin remnant]

+1 for pve dmg buff

[restive vector]

https://youtu.be/kfICQOdCTJY

[zealous sluice]

ty but you could do much more dps with a diffrent pet on grace

[autumn shore]

I bet a Blade can get very close under the right circumstances without having to stand still for 3 seconds to charge an attack
Ah theres a video. And the blade doesn't even have FWC Gear..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TINBuCql6PA

[narrow wolf]

+1 pve buff 😎

[foggy smelt]

its not actually useless, can go sta page on solo boss rages and be happy for 20 critrate
but yeah sure pve damage free 5% alternatively bleeding 10%

[drifting patrol]

I would say lower the DEX to block rate and HP on Ranger (and defense stat in general) but increase their PvE 1v1 dmg would be a good thing

Faster leveling but a bit harder to gianting and solo CW/Meteo/Red Meteo daily

[dawn hamlet]

Fixed

[drifting patrol]

too much free block shouldn't exist lol

so it actually feels like playing ranged with proper positioning required but you are dealing good dmg

[boreal ravine]

Have you tried doing cursed envy with pure dex? With +10 WW set, my ranger wouldn’t even last long with 2-3 turtles without RM’s holyguard 🤣
Once they hit my ranger with a critical it’s either I’ll use SOR or a hairline away from using it 😂

[drifting patrol]

bruh you are tanking 2 and 3 turtles...that is a tad bit too much already with your ranger you can easily just single them out one by one with your range

Also I'm talking about PVE in general not just envy depth it's a place for rich people. I only RM in envy depth and Psy with a tank so far, even a tougher knight wouldn't want to go against 2 turtles...let alone 3.

[boreal ravine]

Yeah but sometimes you cant help but accidentally pull more than 1 of it

[crimson hearth]

100% ignore the rest of that 💩 suggestion

[drifting patrol]

you know what we did on fwc. Still good xp, full clear with both chars have mediocre gear

I (psy) lure the mob and satanology while the ranger just shoot the fker and she holycrosses the target. Easy.

[boreal ravine]

We have tried 3-man inside Envy and exp isn't just acceptable. We will never do it again.

[drifting patrol]

ye I still need to do 3 man because I haven't gotten the gear to solo it yet. Need to reroll my wand and restat or finish my MQ to use the PVE set

Devs need to make leveling outside dungeon more viable and inside dungeon less attractive tbh, dungeons are for loot farming only fr

[boreal ravine]

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[narrow wolf]

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[slate walrus]

Critical Shot - definitive need to be changed, +10% PvE seems fine. Also consider replace arrows into NEW PERMA ITEM for example quiver with some useful stats / effects. Smilar stuff schould be done to BP/RM posters.

@narrow wolf Not more overkill than 10-15% DCT on fash 😄 Hightly depends on bonuses: for example explosive quiver with make you auto attacks shot arrows that deal % DMG as AoE, or piercing arrow quiver with make your arrows penetrate 5-10% targets armor. That's just examples.

@foggy smelt No, Block Pen wasn't useless for PvE - monsters/bosses has block also. It was like -7% total DPS.

[narrow wolf]

Even tho i like the idea, I think its a bit overkill no?

[foggy smelt]

Thats the whole thread, asking for huge buffs replacing blockpen which was mostly useless anyway

[narrow wolf]

Ah 5%pve is not too much to ask for
@slate walrus i like the thought of arrows being perma item or stackable to 100k. I dont mind rangers getting buffs.

[zealous sluice]

10% is that much either, alone the clear speed in envy is superb to be true, if other classes simply make double the % in dungeon

[crimson hearth]

Wouldn’t say it’s huge in the slightest (PvE) compared to other classes. It’ll still sit in the middle of the road damage wise even with 10%

[foggy smelt]

just no 10 blockpen doesnt equal 7% dps , not even 1,5% (in pve)
its good vs high block targets in pvp and thats it.
it effectively lowered the blockrate of mobs from lets say 15% to 13.5%, if its even that high to begin with.

[true prawn]

15%-ish prior to BP is about correct for desert mobs.
Lower for lower leveled monsters and 0% for anything azria+

[slate walrus]

It depends how block pen forumla acctually works, can't find info but for me it feels like is -10% raw block rate (If mob has 15% and you have 10% Pen then monster has 5% real chance to block) .

[true prawn]

This is how it works:
Final block% = defender calculated block% x ( 1 - attacker Block Penetration% )

[honest cosmos]

I dont think the adding of pve dmg to critical shot was meant to combat the loss of dps because of losing block pen. More rather just give something instead and going for pve% to not buff us in pvp.

And as far as I know, block pen works the way Don said. It reduces the block rate of the opponent by your block pen%. 15% block against 10% pen is 13,5% block left.

[boreal ravine]

Infinite arrow will work out just fine so we can make use of these additional inventory slots instead of putting stacks and stacks of arrow that depletes like a 100 fold faster compared to posters (come on Gala, let rangers enjoy the inventory slots)

Just like what I said above, it really seems like critical shot was not designed for any PVE at all. So adding things such as "non depleting arrow" effect will work out just fine. Remember that acrobat's edge over all other job is crit rate and it really seems like nowadays, crit rate can now easily be obtained. Jewels, accessory's set effect and let's not forget angel pet with a really good grace skill resulting to huge DPS gap between these classes.

[narrow wolf]

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