#ULTIMATIVE MENTOR AND ANTI BOT SYSTEM

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floral agate
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everyone listen and pay attention.

A mentor system should be introduced for the new characters from level 60.

That means they have to find a player to mentor them up to level 70 or 80
Now comes the best. Without a mentor they can't level up.
bots no longer have a chance and cant lvl up.
There is also no other way to level without a mentor. As everyone says, your automation technology or .... can't help

Now you're probably thinking yes players can take advantage of it and mentor bots.

But now comes the plan.

The players who have reached level 70 or 80 as described above will receive 10 million in the mail.

The mentor will be deducted 5 million from the players who are banned because of illegal programs. If he has no money in his account, his account goes into the minus range.

Mods can also watch if my high character only takes bots as apprentices. And then question whether it might be his bots

There are enough high characters to find a mentor so please let the .... ones answer. Like what if nobody can be found.
if necessary, the mods can take as a mentor

EDIT : Or for the howlers among us. How about that instead of exp you don't get penya credited anymore only with the mentor and you have to level up to 65 with him

floral agate
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You have to admit this suggestion is the best of all when it comes to fighting bots and helping new players along the way

noble bolt
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"Mods can also watch if my high character only takes bots as apprentices. And then question whether it might be his bots"

If instead of suggesting more things that WILL BE A HASSLE to other players, why dont we simply suggest that mods follow the money trail back to the main accounts and simply ban them?
Imagine people who likes to play by themselves and cant find someone to "mentor" them, they are just locked at staying lvl 60 cuz they couldnt find someone?
We dont need to make the life of the few players we currently have harder to deal with bots. every transaction leaves a trail to be followed, and while people may find a way to bypass that, the riskier it gets the less people would feel like botting cause they wouldnt wanna lose their main account.

But then again, I wouldnt expect flyff to succeed where many others have failed, bots are a problem to almost every mmorpg that exists.

Theres easier ways to fix the problem, but it requires the game company to take action, which I doubt they will.

floral agate
keen meteor
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I would recommend against this, for the same reason I would recommend against Captcha, for the reason reason I recommend against that suggestion to remove guest characters.

Things that make it inconvenient and irritating to play the game for legitimate players are bad for the game. This system suggests that at level 60 a human player has to find someone to mentor them.

That they can't level up without a mentor.

This would be the worst anti-bot measure in the game, and this game has Captchas!

It's the same underlying reason behind why piracy of video games is so successful. All of the DRM measures and always-online requirements so degrade the legitimate experience that piracy is a better experience.

Punishing legitimate players to mitigate bots, and that barely, lmao, let's be real, is bad.

floral agate
chrome briar
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But, the bots can stay lvl 60 and still generate money, so your suggestion isnt really working i guess?

livid plinth
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So smart

keen ocean
cold maple
polar agate
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That's probably the worst suggestion so far, well done kekw

floral agate
# chrome briar But, the bots can stay lvl 60 and still generate money, so your suggestion isnt ...

at level 60 you don't farm a lot of penya and until you act they would be banned because they all farm in a bunch at I think carrierbomb. Solo players wouldn't have any disadvantage either, there are only ten levels you can do in one day. Or you level with mentor only up to level 65 with the quest it takes a maximum of 30-40 minutes. I do not understand the problem ? it will no longer be worthwhile for the bots

noble bolt
floral agate
polar agate
noble bolt
floral agate
# polar agate Wasn't aware of the fact I was boting, thank you for closure 👀 Every solution t...

You're not giving any valid arguments. What do you prefer? To level with the galphans fully occupied with bots and then howl that too many bots occupy the space or simply ask in Flaris or Arena if someone wants to be his mentor and level up in peace in Darkon without bots?. As you say, the gala with the account setting does not always work, they always find a way. But the bots can't avoid this suggestion, or do you accept bots as students?. As I said, it only takes 30 minutes to level 65 because a quest line starts anyway

floral agate
noble bolt
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Are you brain damaged or what? your suggestion is simply bad, you dont have to assume that anyone going against it has anything to do with bots.
Gala doesnt want to address the bots problem, and you people throwing "sugestions" without even thinking them through isnt going to help either lmao
I leveled 2 chars to 120+ in the past 2 months, whenever I encountered a bot, I reported them, yet I still see them around. And they didnt scare or even bother me in the whole leveling process, if you are scared of leveling cuz theres 3 bots in the same spot as yours you should go play a single player game perhaps lol.
Also, if you are so eager to address the bots problem, tell me, how do you FS yourself? using scripts to buff yourself? heal yourself?
I am all in to fixing bots, IF done in a way that DOES NOT BECOME A NUISANCE TO OTHER PLAYERS. And if we are fixing bots, we need to also fix everyone running FSRM on their second browser auto healing/buffing them, since its also a form of botting 😄

floral agate
noble bolt
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I dont understand the meaning behind it or YOU dont understand the bigger picture? Gala doesnt care about resellers or even bots, if they did, most of them would be banned or they woulda come up with a way to stop it. Heck, its actually even easy to follow the trail of money that goes from bots to main accounts and reseller accounts, and that was suggested when you created this bad suggestion XD but i guess you decided to ignore it, cause its actually a good way to stop bots and you just want to spit bad ideas XD
I wouldnt have a problem looking for a mentor, but I dont have to think about me only when trying to come up with a suggestion to stopping bots, I have to think about the new players that might have an issue with it. No one wants their life to be harder to stop bots.
btw stop reacting to your own posts, thats just sad lol

floral agate
noble bolt
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If you are getting money from multiple bot related accounts, then yes, you should be banned. The more people gets banned for receiving money from bot related accounts, the more discouraged to bot they will be. And that also solves RMT to a extent, since money coming from bot labour will also result in the person who bought it being banned, so yeah. And if it can be traced it can be proved through logs and transactions.
Its about time you understand that gala doesnt care about penya sellers/bots, if they did lots of people would be banned already xD

floral agate
noble bolt
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... yeah cuz someone whos botting is clearly going to court cuz their main char got banned XD im done here

floral agate
noble bolt
# floral agate so if you have invested 5000 euros in a game and then get banned for no reason, ...

do you see whats wrong with your sentence? >invest 5k euro > get banned for NO REASON? so botting isnt a reason for a ban? or RMT isnt a reason for a ban either? you serious? XD
If you invested 5k euro in this game and you are botting, you are stupid and deserve a ban for being stupid alone lmao.
Plus, what does we living in europe have to do with it?
To me, its starting to sound like you are concerned about something, idk why are you so touchy in the whole banning through money trails subject XD

feral garden
noble bolt
# feral garden why are you moving the goalpost from a system against bots to a system that also...

I am not trying to change the subject to anything, but if you are to condemn bots that auto farm, you also have to condemn the bots and scripts that lots of people uses to autoheal/autobuff =p this has nothing to do with ringmaster or support role lmao

Also, regarding the whole "i spent 5k euro ill go to court if i get banned for botting" matter, you should read the game terms of service, where it clearly states they can terminate your account if you violate the tos xD

torpid rivet
floral agate
# noble bolt I am not trying to change the subject to anything, but if you are to condemn bot...

Yes, that's exactly where the problem is the terms of use. That's why you can't ban people who have received/bought money from bots. without proper proof. If a bot sends you 100 million penya to your mailbox and you are banned, you can take action against it because gala has no proof that you paid for the bot with Paypal or something similar. The evidence is missing, you say yourself, according to the user conditions, gala can ban people for violating the rules, which must also be 100% proven. So it doesn't matter where the money goes from the bots you can't prove if he gave it to him for free or farmed with bot himself.

torpid rivet
noble bolt
floral agate
noble bolt
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Sure mate, if/when you get banned, i hope those 6 years you studied are put to good use XD
Would be lovely to see you convice a judge you broke their ToS by botting/RMTing or whatever the reason was and complaining you got banned for going against the game rules XD doesnt matter if you studied law for 6, 10, 15 years, you broke their rules, got banned for it, cant complain
This is getting way off topic though, so yeah, have a nice day mr smort lawyer xD

floral agate
# noble bolt Sure mate, if/when you get banned, i hope those 6 years you studied are put to g...

I don't think you understand what I mean. As an example, I bote and send the penya to my mailbox, how should the mods know that I used bots other than tracking penya? This is not hard evidence. This is why the higher characters are not banned as it is not a valid reason.

But apparently you know better than that I was in London for 2 years (harwart)😅. But it doesn't matter if we make an appointment in voice chat and I'll explain it to you

torpid rivet
floral agate
torpid rivet
# floral agate You can tell you're just jealous of my suggestion and you only have one problem ...

I don't have a problem with you at all, I just can't believe you tried to win an argument by mentioning that you studied six years of law at the imaginary harvard university of london. As for the suggestion it's clearly far too over complicated for the player and has no chance of ever being implemented. The SMS verification system you suggested prior, all though a barrier for new players and multi-clienting, is far more reasonable compared to this.

distant imp
twin solar
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Potato suggestion... no game is safe from RTM and bots... not even x3 A games is safe from this problem... the ideas people come up for this solution it only hurts the real players period.

Just ignore them and move on.

torpid rivet
indigo trench
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"If yOu lOcK sUGgesTiOns bEHinD dIsCOrd rOleS, tHeY wiLL bE gOod"

noble bolt
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what amazes me the most is, its a freaking terrible idea, but if you dont agree with him, you are a botter, you bought penya from bots, you caused world war 3
its just stupid lol

feral garden
floral agate
keen meteor
crude plume
keen meteor
crude plume
cold maple
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guest chars are so new players can try the game with the absolute minimum resistance. not really something regular players should be concerning themselves with

crude plume
torpid rivet
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smekw what is this nonsense, botters literally couldn't care less about guest chars being removed. It takes 30mins to make like 200 accounts with some scripts

floral agate
rough spear
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hmmmm

crude plume