#FSRS - unsure if settings are correct

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rustic galleon
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I started a mining deck and am now using FSRS. I noticed when I made new cards after the 10min initial reviews on day 1, it said like 4days or 5days on the Good button, which seemed kind of long. Not sure if this is just how fsrs is supposed to work so wanted to make sure.

I only use the good and again buttons, and my retention is set to 0.9. I posted my settings here also. Just curious if anything should be changed or if this is how its supposed to be. Thanks!

rustic galleon
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Heres an image of a card I just made today and reviewed once:

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And another I just made today. Seems like it varies up the review times

alpine atlas
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Hi, set the desired retention to 0.85 - as far as I’m aware that’s the current recommendation.

If you know a thing and never failed it, the review interval will be longer (and it learns from your reviews, that’s the magic behind fsrs).
The idea is if you know it the first time, the chance of you forgetting it tomorrow is relatively slim.
If you fail on first review and then pass it should be 1 day.

The variation is randomness added to avoid putting everything on the same day, it varies a bit to make your live easier.
You should also install fsrs helper and enable the balancing thingy. It will smoothen your reviews further to avoid having ten today and 100 tomorrow.

rustic galleon
alpine atlas
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  1. yes, but I don’t know why and 2. ignore it.
    The task of fsrs is to optimize the review intervals you get according to your personal learning. The beginning will be scuffed sometimes, but after 500 or 1k reviews you can click the optimize button and let it do its magic. Do that every few months and you’re fine.
    I do it once a month, which is probably too often. Just don’t enable „reschedule cards on change“, or it will overthrow you with reviews if it estimated you to be better
rustic galleon
alpine atlas
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The .85 is what refold users found to be the best tradeoff between reviews and actual retention. We don’t want it too high, as we see stuff too often to learn it. We don’t want it to low or we forget stuff actually

rustic galleon
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So I should just enable load balance when rescheduling?

alpine atlas
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Yes, this option

rustic galleon
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Ok thanks for your help!

alpine atlas
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This will automatically recalculate when you start anki on your computer. Just sync again (auto sync when exiting anki)

rustic galleon
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To test it out on a new card i pressed again and then on next review the good button said 5days, then I pressed again and then it said 6days, and then I pressed again and then Good said 7days

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Isn’t that the opposite of what should happen ? Maybe I just don’t understand the algorithm or something but that just seemed odd to me

alpine atlas
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Is that Migaku?
Well, that definitely should not happen on your mobile device…
It always goes to one day when I failed the new card once.
How is your relearning configured?

rustic galleon
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Yeah it’s migaku, these are my relearning settings

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I think for now I’ll disable fsrs just to be safe

alpine atlas
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As it’s happen on mobile I don’t know what’s the issue. For me it works fine with iOS. For pc Migaku may interfere, but this is mobile.

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Can you export and send me a few of your cards? Would like to test in a clear profile

rustic galleon
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I can after work today yeah, thank you again

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That might work, that's my mining deck so far it's only like 30 cards

alpine atlas
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I’ll look into it when I get back home

rustic galleon
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ありがとう

alpine atlas
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Can you send a screen recording of the issue?
Here I’m using again - good - again - good and so on. It stays at one day.
When I know it directly, it’s seven days

rustic galleon
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I’ll make a card today and see what happens on my end

rustic galleon
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I disabled FSRS earlier but then before I did this new card I reenabled FSRS with .85 retention like before and synced everything, then I made this random card, and it's using old algorithm settings as you can see (1d after pressing good). Maybe the load balance setting balances out the old algorithm I was just using into the new cards or something? I'm not really sure.

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I guess I could just try using FSRS and hope for the best. I guess 7 days or 1 day or whatever I end up getting on a brand new card isn't too bad since it maybe takes time for the algorithm to learn how I grade and all that stuff.

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Let me know if you have any more ideas though, I really am grateful for your time looking into this and helping me out.

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Okay I just realized yeah when I press Good immediately it goes to 6 days. And then if I press again and then Good it went up to 7 days but it didn't go past 7 days as I kept trying it. That's interesting, so I guess I just have to make sure to press Again when I first see a card instead of pressing Good first thing

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I normally always pressed Good first just to get it into the learning queue quicker as I created it