#Swapping from jp1k to kashi, and immersion doubts

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fluid pulsar
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hello everyone, thanks for taking the time to read my post. i hope this is the right channel to put this in. i've been following the guide on my own for a while and i'm at 500 cards of JP1K and over 50 hours of immersion. but recently i've been reading more of the refold guide and faqs, and have been lurking in this server a lot and reading questions. and i think i might be doing something wrong. i just wanna clarify some things.

it seems like refold recommends you do 1500 cards before sentence mining now, as they think 1k isn't enough for japanese. also people in this server are mostly recommending kaishi, i think partly because it's free and also because it's a larger deck. and unlike core2k, it has been carefully curated. so i've been thinking of just dropping jp1k and stating over on kaishi. i don't wanna get lost when i finish and have to find 500 new cards somewhere else. is this a bad idea, or is that recommended?

also i really messed up my immersion. i was under the impression you only had to do freeflow in stage 1, so i've been exclusively doing that for over 50 hours. but now i found out you're supposed to do half intensive half freeflow. i wanna make sure that ignoring intensive for 2 months isn't gonna have negative effects on my acquisition.

anyway, thanks for any and all help.

raw muskBOT
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<@&1248039856404431062> Swapping from jp1k to kashi, and immersion doubts

little turret
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"Japanese or bust"

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Okay, so.

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  1. Sentence mining can be done whenever, but it's recommended to do with the i+1 framework (this is where you have one sentence with one unknown word, that word being the word you're trying to mine) and this is after you've accumulated a foundation of 1000 words.
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  1. Doing just freeflow is fine.
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Intensive and doing some look-ups will yield faster results, but doing Freeflow with the occasional look-up will let you make progress.

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As long as you're interacting with Japanese content in some way, without any form of translation like Google translate or without English subtitles, you're immersing correctly.

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If anything, freeflow is the most important activity in immersion anyways cuz that's what directly leads to acquisition.

fluid pulsar
little turret
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Yes.

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It's enough as a foundation and the JP1K is fine.

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All decks provide basically the same foundation anyways.

fluid pulsar
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okay, thanks. i was under the impression i had made a huge mistake and needed to start a better deck lol

little turret
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All decks are the same, and what you do with your deck doesn't matter in the long-run.

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As long as you're actively immersing with either freeflow or intensive or both, you're fine.

split tree
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As long as it's not a completely shitty pencil lmao. Some starter decks out there can be pretty bad

hasty notch
little turret
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It's only if you do it so much that you start conflating proper English definitions with some Japanese words.

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Remember that languages aren't 1:1.

hasty notch
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Yeah it’s not. I think I’m gonna stop entirely. Im at the stage where the nuance and complexity is too hard to even try making it 1:1 and it’s hurting my comprehension I think.

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I think it’s the ambiguity, sometimes I’m dying to know what that sentence is trying to convey and then I give in ha.

little turret
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How much intensive are you doing?

hasty notch
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Probably 30-40ish% of my time. I could boost it. I did episode one of anime club for the first 20 minutes intensive but the next hour had to switch to free flow before I hurt my brain.