recalling, recollection of kanji related words

[mild merlin]

Hello i’m 3 months into studying japanese and i’ve noticed i suck at recalling words if the word is kanji(not hiragana/katanana).

Once i learn the word that has kanji, i need to study it atleast 2-5 more times that day to recall it the next day. 70% retention rate on kanji related words

Is there a way to make words with kanji easier to recall? I was wondering if i should do rtk before learning words or something else.

What ive tested:

• Lowering amount of words = same retention rate
• Lower card interval = same retention rate
• sentances

(Study plan: 2h anki, 4-5h active immersion per day) (1h of anki is just trying to remember old words i forgot and re-remembering the new words)

[modest hornet]

2 options:

1. Start reading. Remembering words that involve kanji is trivially easy if you are reading on a consistent basis. There are graded readers that are made for learners and don't require a lot of vocabulary. You could start with those.

2. Option 1 is 99% guaranteed to work unless you are in a small minority of people who actually struggles with a visual processing disorder. But if you have tried option 1 for at least 3 months and it doesn't seem to be improving, doing the RRTK 450 deck from The Moe Way might be worth it.

Doing traditional vanilla RTK where you handwrite the kanji out of the book is almost never worth it.

It also might be worth changing your mindset around Anki. Anki is not meant for drilling kanji for 2 hours until you memorize them. Anki is just there to remind you information exists so you can more easily spot it in your immersion and acquire it there. In stage 1 when you're still new, you should only be spending an hour on Anki at max.

[mild merlin]

I started reading the kanji when immering more lately which has helped on the most common words. Maybe rtk and more active reading instead of listening and hearing the kanji

[mild merlin]

Yeh thats what i want to get. I limited to only do the words for the day which took 1h to recall etc but after 1 month i had over 40% of the deck suspended because i failed over 8 times

When i only did 1h

[modest hornet]

What deck are you doing for vocabulary? And how many new cards are you doing per day?

[mild merlin]

Now I mine words within n3 and below, i try to choose words that the tv show repeat a lot, but not always a guarantee. 23 words

Same retention rate on both but saves me 20 min not doing 30 words

[modest hornet]

Try 10-15 new words.

You went straight to mining? You didn't do a premade deck first?

[mild merlin]

Did the 1000 core deck from refold

[modest hornet]

Oh gotcha

[mild merlin]

But this happen to it

This is the new deck

[mild merlin]

If i study the words extra

[modest hornet]

Gotcha. I would definitely lower new cards to 10 and start doing more dense reading like with graded readers

[mild merlin]

I’ll try your recommendations thank u