the ancient city portal is not a portal and wont be a portal.

[lucid coral]

lets get the obvious out of the way. you cant activate it and it has no destination.

where it would lead to

if it leads to some place like the end (boss fight with other features) then the boss would clearly be way too overpowered because the warden is very strong and the boss for sculk would have to be stronger. the game wouldnt be as fun if there was a boss with 1k hp and can 1 shot you in fully enchanted netherite (concept).

if it leads to some place like the nether then that seems a bit more reasonable however what would be in the new dimension? unlike ruined portals the ancient city seems to have all sculk features no need for a whole other dimension.

if it lead to other ancient citys that would be extremely overpowered. the citys have really good loot especially enchanted golden apples. they already messed up by making totems farmable i dont think they should make enchanted golden apples way easier to get.

how would you light it

flint and steel is way too unnatural for sculk.

ender eyes are.. ender.

this leads to most likely echo shards, the most reasonable about the portal being true.

also we need to let sculk die please let it die already i dont want caves and cliffs 4

[pliant karma]

Weird logic but ok

I honestly think the Ancient City portals lead to a new Dimension, either it being the Sculk Dimensions or the home dimension of the Buildari

[uncut heart]

I didn't understand but you are right

[summer wasp]

it wont get a use, it wont i know it.

[craggy sierra]

also the portal is old as hell, it could legit just be broken and we don't have the ability to fix it thus simply being a funny structure

that would work too

[celest spear]

It could be a portal but we don´t know how to open it. the sculk is generally a bit weird. So it could be from this other dimension where the Portal could lead to. This would work out if sculk was only in ancient citys with the portal nearby but there are also deep dark bioms without the city so I think maybe the sculk dimension has unstable borders that seperate the dimensions. Some sort of rift between the overwolrd and the sculk dimension is the reason for the sculk spreading randomly. The Portal in the ancient city is maybe just a way the people who lived there used to make a stable bridge between the dimensions. So the rifts in normal deep dark bioms are randomly it allows the sculk to spread in the overwolrd but the bridge opens and closes randomly or appear at different locations. The Portal was build to enter the sculk dimension in a way the netherortal works, a stable bridge which can be entered on both sides

This is just my theory. I could be wrong and it was never a portal. But there is some evidence for the portal theory like the early file name of one of the city structures: A miniature version of the city centre struckture was named "Small_portal_statue" until it was later changed. Also in my opinion sculk is a very unnatural block it appears nowhere else

I apologize for my maybe not so good english grammar or writing. Im from a country where english is not my motherlanguage, but I hope you find my theory interesting.

[royal cosmos]

If it is a portal I would think that the way that you light it is by using some sort of sound as that's what the entire biome seems to be based off of. I would also think that it's sort of a plot device as well showing that the warden is not native to this world nor is the skulk as it spreads when anything around it dies.

[pseudo fractal]

The end isn't a boss arena it's a vault

The nether is a highway

It's not going to be like either of those as this one is a prison

IF it is a dimension

Saying that the sculk won't be a dimension because you can't find an original purpose for it isn't a valid argument

I can put originality in it. If it is a prison you probably have to rescue the heroes or unleash the villains put inside the prison. Mojang tried to add characters to Minecraft with the wandering trader. A sculk dimension sounds like the perfect place to add more.

In infinite amount of catacombs you have to find who your looking for and break them out without getting cought. Keep the portal open too long and you'll unleash some sort of entity or the wardens will just close it. Open it to late in the game and certain heroes become unaccessible.

Maze runner like civilizations with there own currency, ideas and ways of survival. Old and new warlords striving for dominance over strategic resources, locations and people. Then there's you...

You with the resources to tip the balance of power of several armies... the courage to save the prisoners of the sculk... the negligence to unleash terrible and wretched beings and utter monsters on the beauty of the over world... The friends and allies you can make...but be aware of the terrible enemies that wait to plot your destruction.

Still sound like caves and cliffs part 4?

Even if it does it's better than the minor updates we're getting now

I wait impatiently for my adventures into the depths of purgatory

[coral wyvern]

A cloud can look like a dog, but it acctualy isnt a dog

Just like a statue can look like a portal and not acctualy be a portal

[celest spear]

but why make a statue of something that doesn't exist, work, or where is no evidence for? If you assume that the city centre is a statue then why did they make a statue of a statue in other parts of the city?

[coral wyvern]

How do you know those are statues of a statue and not just smaller versions statues related to the same thing that the big statue is about ?

[celest spear]

then tell me what "the big statue" is related to

[coral wyvern]

Also, there is no evidence that the structure in the centre is rlly a portal. So it can only be a statue until proof emerges

[coral wyvern]

Idk, some sculk creature maybe ? (Not the warden, it dosent look like the warden)

[celest spear]

but you agree that the small statues resemble the city centre right?

[coral wyvern]

Yeah, they look very similiar too it

But we dont know if they are suposed to depict the city centre or something else that the city centre is also suposed to depict

And again, there is no evidence of the city centre being a portal

[celest spear]

first you should know in the snapshots the small statue was called small_portal_statue

also the inner frame of the city centre is made out of reinforced deepslate a very hard block

as far as we know portals require 2 things

[coral wyvern]

WAS

Not IS

[celest spear]

hard material and a starting energy mostly heat

[celest spear]

I know but why do you think they renamed it?

[coral wyvern]

Eh, I dont think that the endstone that we can see in the end portal is "hard material"

[celest spear]

but the portal frames itself are

same as teh reinforced deepslate

normal deepslate is a normal block

[coral wyvern]

Changed the lore of the city centere or tried to make it less obvious. I go with the 1st option until evidence emerges, like thiss thing being refered as a portal or it being useable

[celest spear]

but the reinforced is literally unbreakable

[coral wyvern]

We dont know how strong the portal frames are, since they are unbreakable. And they unbreakable probaly because there is a limited amount of them and breaking all could break once playthrough

[celest spear]

then tell me what the "new" lore of the city centre is you cant tell me that a society builds a city around a statue and even created a new indestructible block to build it

[coral wyvern]

Wait, since when its unbreakable ? I always heared it just takes a long time but is breakable

[celest spear]

Well THIS is just speculation like you speculating that the lore of the city centre has changed what is complete nonsense in my opinion

[coral wyvern]

I have a question

[celest spear]

yes but you can say its unbreakable unles you want stadn there for I dont know how long it takes

in fact nothing in mc is unbreakable

[coral wyvern]

If you rlly belive that the city centre is a portal, then why is there no way in or out ? You litterly have to fly to reach it

Like, there is no staircase leading to the "portal"

[coral wyvern]

Speculation based on a logical conclusion. The logical conlusion being that breakable end portal frames would be game breaking

[celest spear]

yes but then tell me why they should not be extremly hard to break from a lore perspective?

[coral wyvern]

Idk, I mostly avoid the deep dark because its location choice makes no fricking sense to me

[coral wyvern]

Because we can see its made out of endstone, a material we know isnt hard to break

[celest spear]

you can argue what was first the sculk or the ancient city

[celest spear]

I already explained it

the reinforced deepslate is also made of deepslate and still you cant break it

[coral wyvern]

It makes more sense to me that the city was 1st, but the way the city is build suggests it was made with the sculk in mind

[coral wyvern]

Also sculk can be found outside the cities

[celest spear]

maybe or they reconstructed the city partly after the sculk came

[coral wyvern]

Yes, the reinforced deepslate is harder then normal deepslate, but is a end portal frame (which isnt referred to be reinforced) also a harder block ?

[pseudo fractal]

Obsidian isn't indestructible either

[celest spear]

but very hard

[coral wyvern]

But is the end portal frame very hard in the lore ?

[celest spear]

I did not say the block for portals has to be indestructible i said it has to be very hard

as far as we know

[coral wyvern]

Ik

[celest spear]

The corect answer is: we dont know

[coral wyvern]

By the way, I agree with the energy part

[celest spear]

but based on the other portals we see ingame we can assume that portals require hard materials

[coral wyvern]

Well, thiss is more interpretative

[celest spear]

like I said the theorie with the hard material is based on the other portals we see

[pseudo fractal]

Mojang has probably seen that video too

[coral wyvern]

The only other confirmed portal is the nether portal, which can be interpretended in a diffrent way

For example:
The nether is a hot place that shows evidence of also being wet. Obisidian is more from both lava and water. So the obisidans might be used because it basicaly represents the nether and through that representation allows the portal to establish a conection to it in the 1st place.

The same interpretation can be applied to the end portal, it being made out of endstone. A block from the dimension that you want to reach and a block reoresenting that what the end basicaly is

[celest spear]

I don't know about your first example

[pseudo fractal]

I made a thread asking what it would look like pls visit

[celest spear]

But its an interesting Idea

[coral wyvern]

You need the evidence for the nether being wet ?

[celest spear]

Not realy but I would like to read your Ideas

[coral wyvern]

But, you just read them ?

[pseudo fractal]

If mojang hadn't seen RGNs video they wouldn't have added reinforced deep slate

[celest spear]

about why the nether is wet

[coral wyvern]

So you want see the evidence

[celest spear]

yes

[pseudo fractal]

Life is evidence enough for water

[celest spear]

Is it?

[coral wyvern]

So, the evidence for the nether being wet is:
-piglins have bottles filled with water, but dont treat it like a rare and valuabel ressources, implying there is a source of water
-irl a perfect condition for the growth of fungui is a wet enviroment and we can see that the nether seems to be a rlly good enviroment for the growth of fungui (even invasive fungui species originating from the ow)
-no matter how much water you dump into the nether, it will always evaporate into steam and never affect the enviroment, implying that there already is water in the air

[coral wyvern]

The nether is a seperate dimension, so its not in thiss case

[celest spear]

I agree

So we can say the nether is wet but I dont think it can be represented by water the nether is more represented by heat I think

[coral wyvern]

You could also say that the piglins needed water to create obsidian so they can create the nether portals we see them create in MCL. But I think its more of a paradox and a problem that has to be solved instead of evidence that there has to be water in the nether

[coral wyvern]

Something is wet, because something has water on it

[celest spear]

yes

[pseudo fractal]

Aren't we off topic

[coral wyvern]

Maybe, idk

[coral wyvern]

And lava is a great source of heat

[pseudo fractal]

So is the warden thing a portal or not

[coral wyvern]

And obsidian is made out of lava and water

[coral wyvern]

Its definetly not something that looks like warden lol

It has ears/eyes

The warden has tendrils

[pseudo fractal]

It looks like warden

Just less decayed

[coral wyvern]

Also the wardens headshape and the general shape of the city centre "head part" dosent fit

[pseudo fractal]

The similarities to a portal could be a coup attempt like bee crystal

A warden demension is because of someone in mojang not mojang itself

[celest spear]

Also it is confirmed that there will be a new dimension in mc but not until the old dimensions are fully updated so we first get the rest of the overwrold updates and another end update before we get a new dimension maybe they will then use the portal in the ancient city to make it actually functional

[pseudo fractal]

Or it could be like shipwrecks

Are there large ships in mc

[coral wyvern]

How do you know that they dont just add a new "portal"

[coral wyvern]

Yeah, definetly

[celest spear]

i said maybe its just speculation

[pseudo fractal]

True

[coral wyvern]

I think in MCD there is even a confirmation about the existance of illager pirates, or something like that

But I am not sure

[coral wyvern]

Ah, didnt saw it

[pseudo fractal]

What if it's a nexus of portals

I wish they would put boat machanics though

[royal cosmos]

We really gonna have this conversation without bringing up disc 5?

[hazy zinc]

counterpoint: it's a portal but will never be usable

two reasons: someone lit a portal in the deep dark as heard in disk 5 and one of the structures in the deep dark literally is called "mini portal statue" and is a smaller scale replica of the portal

[hazy zinc]

aren't end portal frames pretty easy to break?

[royal cosmos]

I agree with this particular sentiment, I think the portal was a one way trip for the warden and skulk, I would take a guess and that the warden originally came from a place that was dark and quiet as it wouldn't really be as effective in a well lit or loud area, it either picked up hunting experience from hunting ancient builders or it had hunted something before it came through the portal.

[coral wyvern]

Its no longer called that way

And the portal that was lit in disk 5 cant be the same stucture as the city centre, because there is no way to access the "portal" of the city centre

Like, there is no staircase or any other path leading to the "portal"

You litterly need be abel to fly to get into it, but there is no other case where you need to fly to reach something in the ancient cities

[coral wyvern]

No, they are unbreakable in game

[coral wyvern]

Sculk can be found outside of the ancient citiew hundrets of blocks away, so sculk is probaly natural to the ow

[lucid coral]

they are unbreakable

but breakable with bugs

if we are counting bugs in the lore

then some god added ways to get infinite of any item

and allowed us to pause in the air

and stuff

and thats really stupid

so no

[lucid coral]

just because it looks like a portal doesn’t mean it is a portal

it was called mini portal statue in the game files

99% sure not official

also making an unusable portal will make 0 sense'

[coral wyvern]

Bugs are to 100% a technical thing unreleated to the lore, unless they have become a feature

[lucid coral]

ik

hes saying end frames are easy to break

[coral wyvern]

Yeah ik

[coral wyvern]

Also, it WAS called like that and not it IS called like that

[lucid coral]

the word called looks so weird

[coral wyvern]

Anything in the snapshots that got changed is not canon, just like all the updates that were released before the newst version and because snapshots are suposed to test features and not rlly to add them

[hazy zinc]

not necessarily. it would add a layer of mystery to the deep dark

[lucid coral]

i dont think the deep darks would need more mystery

the deep dark is already a mysterious place

and it has to stay like that

no extra coating needed

[hazy zinc]

how would that get rid of the mystery element

[coral wyvern]

Isnt it more mysterious if its a statue ?

The city center dosent resembels as warden afterall

[hazy zinc]

it could be both honestly

[coral wyvern]

So after what is the city center suposed to look like ?

[hazy zinc]

it could be a broken portal that isn't functional designed to look like some other skulk creature

[coral wyvern]

The thing is, it isnt usable even if it would work

[hazy zinc]

then there could be a question of why is it broken, and what is the statue supposed to resemble

[hazy zinc]

wdym

[coral wyvern]

You cant reach it

Without levitating or flying

[hazy zinc]

well yeah, but look at the size of the frame

in Minecraft nether and end portals are the perfect size for the creatures that use them

[coral wyvern]

Unless you want to get an army through it

Or any other large group of people

[hazy zinc]

so if the deep dark were to follow that same logic, then it's safe to assume the skulk creatures are bigger than players

[coral wyvern]

Proof 1st that the city centre even is a portal before making such assumptions

[hazy zinc]

I'm going based on possiblities

prove to me first that the city center ISN'T a portal

:/

[coral wyvern]

Thats not how it works lol

[hazy zinc]

quite literally it is

let people have their own theories as long as it's not disproven

[coral wyvern]

You have to prove that something is that what you claim it to be, but nobody has to prove that it isnt that what you claim it to be

You have the burden of proof in thiss case, not I

[hazy zinc]

what

that's not how it works

when you're trying to discredit someone, you need proof that they're wrong

how can you have a proper argument if that's not going on

[coral wyvern]

Yes, but you asked me to prove 1ST that the city centre isnt a portal

[hazy zinc]

yeah... isn't the whole point of this thread that it's supposedly not a portal and that it CAN'T be one

[coral wyvern]

You did not ask me to counter your view, but to prove that the city centre isnt a portal

[hazy zinc]

so go ahead and tell me why it can't be a portal

[coral wyvern]

Again, there is no way you can reach it

No path leading to it

No staircase leading to it

Nothing

[hazy zinc]

again, never said it had to be usable by the player

[coral wyvern]

You litterly have to fly and levitate to get in it

[coral wyvern]

Then who should use it ?

There is nothing related to the ancient cities that can fly or levitate afterall

[hazy zinc]

the skulk creatures or whatever the portal was made for, obviously

[coral wyvern]

They cant fly

[hazy zinc]

how would you know

we've only seen one

[coral wyvern]

Prove that there are more

[hazy zinc]

pretty sure no one would make a statue based on nothing at that size

[coral wyvern]

We make statues irl about humanoid pig centaurs, mermaids and etc lol

[hazy zinc]

those are real concepts

just because they aren't physically real doesn't mean they aren't able to be turned into statues

[coral wyvern]

And the creature that the city center is suposed to show cant be a real concept for the ones that build the city centre ? Like some deity that they worshiped or a creature from an culturaly signficant story

[hazy zinc]

whatever the statue is based on must be a common concept of the people that built it. especially with how big it is

[hazy zinc]

it's almost as if... that's my entire point

well not my entire point but you get what i mean

it probably is for a deity honestly

[coral wyvern]

Then what basis do you have for claiming that thiss creature is an acctual real creature that existed or exists ?

[hazy zinc]

that would explain it's shape and size

dude

[coral wyvern]

I agree

[hazy zinc]

uh... what

what are you talking about

[coral wyvern]

.

[coral wyvern]

.

[hazy zinc]

oh wait i think you were confused

[coral wyvern]

.

[hazy zinc]

literally none of those disproves my point

[coral wyvern]

I understood that you claim the city center is a portal used by an unknowen sculk creature which is suposed to look like the city center

[hazy zinc]

tbh i was thinking it was used by them at first but now I'm pretty sure it was just made for one

anyways, now that we reached a point of agreement, what do you think the purpose of reinforced deepslate is exactly?

[coral wyvern]

The statues teeth

Like, the concept of the statue showen in MC live had teeth, but now they seem to be gone when released. Unless the reinforced deepslate is suposed to be the statues teeth

[lucid coral]

it wouldnt

more mystery would be a bad thing

[hazy zinc]

it wouldn't add more mystery

it would be the same amount of mysteriousness if not less while just changing what part of it is mystery

anyways i gtg now, sorry

[dusky chasm]

Seriously, why people Keep saying that what we hear in disc 5 is a portal if we have never hear that sound before?

[coral wyvern]

Lol

[royal cosmos]

What makes you think that it comes from the overworld? Not trying to be rude, I'm just curious, because from my logic this structure that may have been a portal at one time is the epicenter for the skulk.

[coral wyvern]

Because like I already said, there are deep dark biomes with sculk located hundrets or even thousands of blocks away from the nearest deep dark biome that has a ancient city in iz

So explain how the sculk got so far away from the ancient city, if it origantes feom the city centre

[royal cosmos]

Because you can hear the sound of the warden and skulk directly afterwards.

[royal cosmos]

You have a point

[coral wyvern]

Alao the ancient cities seem to have been made with the sculk in mind

[dusky chasm]

How does that relate to the previous sound being a portal?

[coral wyvern]

You can also hear an endersent, does that mean there is an end portal nearby ?

[royal cosmos]

You know what that's some pretty good counter evidence honestly, I'll have to think about that

The reason I thought it was a portal in the first place was because a large portion of disc 5 describes kind of a story just like 11 or 13. But now I'm starting to think it might not be as straight forward.

[coral wyvern]

Disc 5 is also tricky because of it having the sounds of an creature from MCD

[royal cosmos]

Wait what? That's what I'm hearing in that? I never even noticed.

[coral wyvern]

And you wont find that out or even understand why the endersent is even there, if you havent played MCD echoing void dlc

[hazy zinc]

i get what you're saying but it being a mob from MCD isn't what makes it seem implausible

[royal cosmos]

Yeah never played echoing void DLC, played the rest of the game though.

[coral wyvern]

I can show a video where you can hear the sounds

[hazy zinc]

since anything that exists in dungeons also exists in Minecraft, it's just not seen

[royal cosmos]

Honestly, go for it! I want to see it.

[coral wyvern]

https://youtu.be/vQrIf2TWzJ4

1:49

The music might make it hard to hear it

[hazy zinc]

yeah- also idk exactly what you were talking about specifically

[coral wyvern]

I think its the stomping sound you can hear in the disc, but I am not sure

I am not that deep into disc 5, because analyising music is one of my greatest weaknesses. So I just looked at what others said

[hazy zinc]

i had a random thought involving the numbered discs

[royal cosmos]

I noticed that the end guys with the hands sounds awfully like the dormant warden for some reason, this is weird.

[coral wyvern]

And the active "serious" theorist part of thiss server seems to have found out that the endersent can be heared in that disc, from what i have seen

[hazy zinc]

do you mean the stomping in the beginning of disc 5, seal?

[coral wyvern]

No, thats the marching of somebody or multiple people, if I remember it right

[hazy zinc]

cuz if so they kinda sound too heavy to match the endersent

oh alright

[coral wyvern]

@dusky chasm you were involved in theorising about disk 5, right ?

[royal cosmos]

I'm going to listen to 5 to make sure.

[coral wyvern]

Can you tell where the endersent sounds are in disc 5 ? (Start, middle, end and etc)

[dusky chasm]

Yes

[dusky chasm]

I only remember the first one, it is in 0:37

[coral wyvern]

Ok

Send me the link in my dms, I will send them in here

[hazy zinc]

wait- why did my message not appear XD

[coral wyvern]

You have no permission to send links

So it got imdently deleted

[hazy zinc]

Oh- that makes sense

[coral wyvern]

@royal cosmos

[royal cosmos]

Yes?

[hazy zinc]

seal, you gonna send it?

[dusky chasm]

The link to what? Disc 5?

[hazy zinc]

yeah

[coral wyvern]

https://youtu.be/GO2Q7-n5vVY

[coral wyvern]

I didnt realise that you dmed me because of new discord update having changed dms

[hazy zinc]

at around 1:08 is where the sound that sounds sorta like a portal happens, and I'm wondering what you guys think it might be since you don't think that's what it is

[coral wyvern]

Fork says the 1st endersent sound is at 0:37

[calm prism]

Hm

[hazy zinc]

and 1:36 too in my opinion

[royal cosmos]

Oh! That does sound like an endersent! But why? There's also a lot of unidentifiable sounds here, say, what if it is a portal but the reason we can't open it is because it was opened using sound to open it instead of lighting it on fire or using eyes of ender?

[coral wyvern]

The endersent in the ow are found at the bedrocl layer trying to dig through it (in MCD)

[royal cosmos]

The problem is endersent don't exist in Minecraft proper yet and there's almost no reason for one to be in 5 which is weird.

[hazy zinc]

again, everything in dungeons exists in the Minecraft universe

even if they're not in the game itself

[royal cosmos]

Digging through bedrock? Does it state why?

[coral wyvern]

Audrey speculates/theorieses that the endersent are trying to dig to the planets core so the void can corrupt the core, which causes the dimension to get corrupted and the planet to get destroyed. Which she argues happend in the end already

[hazy zinc]

also seal, can you answer this?

it also applies to 1:36 btw

i just wanna know your opinions

[royal cosmos]

My thought is what if the endersent was the thing that activated the portal?

[coral wyvern]

I agree, if you refer to the "bonk" sounds

[hazy zinc]

wdym by the bonk sounds

[coral wyvern]

Context: the end in MCD seems to be corrupted by a block called "condensed void" and at the endersents locations in the ow there is also thiss condensed void, which in one place even goes inside a hole that is in the bedrock layer

[hazy zinc]

oh

[coral wyvern]

The sounds that sound like the walking sound of the endersent, which you can hear before the warden apears in disk 5

[hazy zinc]

the warden appears towards the end though

[royal cosmos]

This would explain why we aren't able to use the portal, because only something endborn can actually activate it.

[coral wyvern]

And the endersent walking sounds apear before the end of disk 5

[hazy zinc]

oh wait i know what you mean now

yeah, that makes sense

what portal would that even be though? it doesn't sound like the end or nether portal in my opinion

[coral wyvern]

I dont think so, considering they already use the endportal and show evidence of being abel to teleport between dimensions without a portal

[royal cosmos]

That's true but they don't have the ability to teleport different mobs two different locations, I think that this creature did this out of spite or out hatred

[coral wyvern]

In MCD there is a creature called the Heart of Ender, which is also refered as the Orb of Domiance

[coral wyvern]

Thiss creature casualy opens and closes portals in the end dlc

It also explains how endstone got to the ow, which is neccisary for the construction of the end portal

[coral wyvern]

Is it even a portal or just a "bug" of the disk ?

Or just music added to the disk

[hazy zinc]

wdym

[coral wyvern]

The sounds that sound like a portal dont have to be portal sounds, but could be sounds which were added to the disk after recording it or damaged parts of the disk making weird sounds. Afterall, the disk is made out of multiple shards of what we assume to be the same disk (I assume, because there is the option that we might be adding parts of a music disk by axident. Explaining the music parts of the disc)

[hazy zinc]

i mean- perhaps

[lucid coral]

can you guys not overthink ANY minecraft detail

its just crazy crap in #1019925609960439819

no the 2.34 beats per second in the extended cut of disk 69 does not mean the warden is the god of the baby yellow axolotles

[hazy zinc]

counter point: consider you don't know everything in ADDITION to considering everyone else doesn't know everything

it's called Minecraft THEORIES not Minecraft facts

[coral wyvern]

Theories are based on facts, these facts are also refered as evidence

[hazy zinc]

yes but they're not entirely fact based

[coral wyvern]

Yes, they are also based on logic, intrepretations and conections conecting those facts

[hazy zinc]

like people act like we can't theorize about what the sniffer is just because we don't know what they are

[coral wyvern]

And there are multiple cases were the logic, interpretations and conections are rlly questionabel

[hazy zinc]

i mean true- and i get that but still... people here sometimes act like theories they don't agree with are invalid

[coral wyvern]

Like, does it mean that grass in MCD has necromatic powers because the orb of the nameless one is green and grass is green too ?

[coral wyvern]

Theories have to withstand counterarguments and be convincing, or people will not agree with those theories and see those theories as false

[hazy zinc]

well true- but they can't just discredit it without giving counterarguments

also did you recently become wither skeleton rank or have i just not noticed xd

[coral wyvern]

I became recently free from the blaze curse

[hazy zinc]

nice

anyways, you're one of the ones that actually uses evidence in counterarguments, so thanks for that xd

[coral wyvern]

Lel

[hazy zinc]

anyways are we still agreeing on the statue being built for some type of deity, btw?

[coral wyvern]

Ye

We dont know if its a fictional or real deity tho (in the MC universe)

[hazy zinc]

makes sense

just like with real life

now, the thing is... why does it look the way it does, and what is the purpose of the reinforced deepslate

[lucid coral]

yo

why are you guys arguing

over block game theorys

[pulsar mist]

cause it's fun & interesting for us

[lone elm]

this is serious business you know

[granite pond]

Well considering that the portals created in Minecraft require hard blocks to create them AKA obsidian to get to the nether /end portal blocks to get to the end both are very difficult (or impossible) to break... And you need a source of fire to activate it flint and steel to get to the nether.... Lava and eyes of ender (active ingredient: blaze powder)... It would appear that they were at least attempting to create a portal to another dimension. The blocks are hard and they have a source of fire to try to activate it.

Whether or not thier attempt was successful can be argued, but considering that the area is being overran by skulk and the warden it suggests that they were successful... Especially if you listen to the music disc that you have to put back together. It can be argued that you are listening to the first activating of the portal that brought the warden after they try escaping the wither.

And that does not mean that they will necessarily add another dimension but it doesn't mean that another dimension isn't part of the lore...

[amber elbow]

I imagined the dimension it would lead to is the "Abyss". A place you shouldn't go. It's a living entity far more advanced that the crude organs it's developed in the overworld. You're a foreign particle and its immune system knows you're there.

[heavy cove]

well, if you build a nether portal on the OW you will spawn one in the N, maybe the portal in the AC is a side effect of something traveling to the OW. Reinforced deepslate and soul fire might be an attempt to keep the portal from working, a deterrent

that would also explain why the builders used candles and wool to live there, to figure out a way to close the portal. the small portal satutes could be a reproduction to work something out

[pseudo fractal]

Guys the nether is a highway, and the end is a vault. If they used dimensions for practical purposes instead of exploring for the sake of it, like NASA did, then there would be huge incentive to find more for more purposes. The Sculk dimension is going to be a prison accept it.

[hazy zinc]

what

what makes the end a vault?

[pseudo fractal]

The only loot there is diamond and fights with endermen are easily avoidable. No evidence of any other factions to compete with. Theres also 3 entrances protected by a dragon. A creature that loves riches... How would you design a vault in a game?

My writing is crap today

[hazy zinc]

first off i would have a box made of a strong material that can't easily be broken into.

and definitely not have someone who would steal the valuables if given the chance to

[pseudo fractal]

Why would you have such valuables in just one box?

[hazy zinc]

preferably i wouldn't

but still

no strong boxes at all

[pseudo fractal]

They did in the form of ocean monuments

[hazy zinc]

wdym

[pseudo fractal]

Ocean monuments are a box made from strong material to protect valuables

[hazy zinc]

yes, but what does that have to do with the end?

I'm confused

[pseudo fractal]

It was to stress a strategic importance on being able to hide resources across a secret dimension, sorry.

[coral wyvern]

-The end can be used way better as a prison then a hypothetical sculk dimension

-The nether has no highway like infrastructure to support faster travel through the nether and probaly to some extend slows down travel because of its hostility

[wooden otter]

I don’t think that the City Center is a portal at least I don’t think that the Sculk came from the portal, because Reinforced Deepslate has the bone-like material in the corners and if the Sculk emerged from the portal than how would the bone material be on the Deepslate,

[coral wyvern]

Yes, and there is the fact that sculk can be found far away from an ancient city

These 2 facts imply that the sculk is most likely native to the ow

[wooden otter]

Well… Mojang has confirmed that the Deep Dark we see is only the very top of it, it actually generates mostly under bedrock which means the void isn’t canon. Which means it could have spread so far that it reaches to other places with no ancient city but it actually connects beneath bedrock where the void is

[late osprey]

h

[late osprey]

bruh they were just talking about a technical design choice 💀

still think the ancient city is gonna lead to whatever the mc afterlife is called

[late osprey]

also this doesn't necessarily disprove that sculk came from the portal, as end portals do the same thing by having endstone

[wooden otter]

But that’s assuming that the portal to the end was made first in the overworld, I personally think that the End made the first portal to the overworld not the other way around

I’m not saying that the City Center isn’t a portal, I’m saying that I don’t think Sculk came from the said portal. Reinforced Deepslate just seems like a combination of Sculk and Deepslate, so how can the Sculk emerge from the portal when the portal itself has Sculk elements.

[warm imp]

I wish it was

[wooden otter]

kingbdogz confirmed that it wasn’t

[uncut heart]

That was the sculk block