Training Gear: Digimon Link Pendulum 1.5 | Nurture Train Battle

[trim pivot]

Yes Vital Hero Digimon

[turbid notch]

we finally have a decent VB, but battery is the issue now xD (always was, but didnt matter that much till now :,v)

[candid thistle]

unfortunately as a freelance artist i'm stuck inside my house literally the entire day to work 😔 i found the best way to shake the VH at my desk to get the best results for training my digimon despite not moving much. The new update helps with that even more since i don't have to manually reselect training every time it stops.

a mix of lazyness/being tired and lack of time kinda stops me from exercising more (i should tbh)

[cyan geyser]

Yeah, I work a desk job and don't move a lot. Chasing the step requirement has me going for lunchtime walks though, which has been fun.

Tons of different ways to play with this thing!

[hardy quiver]

@trim pivot Something that popped into my head, do you know if its possible to code sleep to pause evo timer? that would make it even more in line with the v-pets

[vast trout]

Random observation, but it seems that when the VH is about to die, pendulum shaking is completely disabled and training always fails

Incidentally manually backing out of adventures by that point finally prompts a dead battery screen

[trim pivot]

The evolution timer does clock down in traditional V-pets when they sleep. What's interesting is that the first VB did what you requested, not have evo time run down in sleep. That's an interesting take but I would rather have it tick down as the Digimon sleeps like the traditional way. If your Digimon has decent health you can always place it in storage for the night. That'll stop the timer

About the desk work above. I relate to that as an artist as well. It's amazing how you sit down and start working and next thing you know the whole day has passed. It's very easy to forget to get up and move, beyond just art work, but any desk job

[hardy quiver]

its fine ether way. just a thought I had.

Love it so far, still getting use to it, though my digimon is not pooping at all even though I've fed it

[trim pivot]

Hmm, that is odd, Maybe the first case of Digi-constipation? How long ago has it been since you fed?

[hardy quiver]

hour since last time

[dim magnet]

Yeah that's a thing that's built into the base firmware. Accelerometer doesn't get activated if there's not enough battery

[trim pivot]

ok, all the Digimon calls interacts with the other Digimon calls so maybe in some time it will poop

[vast trout]

Mmn, interesting stuff

[teal jackal]

Going back to the trophies, I'll just say that I've actually been discouraged from working out as much since I figured they reset from evolution. Felt like it made more sense to just wait til I have a fully evolved digimon before even trying to do that

[vast trout]

's always been this way with the first version, although the automatic training on top of the higher thresholds for boosts (10 trophies instead of 3) doesn't do the battery any good in comparison

Still, would be neat if at least some of them were retained across stages

[teal jackal]

Yeah, I felt the same way with the first version, but at least there the trophies weren't separated like now

Which I do appreciate and understand, I'm just saying that retaining them would encourage me to go ahead and build up a few over every stage

It would also help with the immersion of growing along with your Digimon and all that

[trim pivot]

That's 100% understandable. It's one thing when the power trophies are tied with the evo trophies but when they are seperate it can be too overwhelming. Cyanic and I are working on a soft update that will retain the power trophy value after evolution.

[teal jackal]

That's good to hear, thanks for looking out for feedback

[vast trout]

Admittedly knowing there's a point that too much training completely trivialises fights is a good incentive to cool things down a bit

[teal jackal]

Yeah I saw you get 160 trophies, I don't think I'd go that crazy lmao

Definitely impressed by the raw Power though

[vast trout]

suppose when vs dim fights kick off again, there'd be no telling how much is too much, especially without reversions

[teal jackal]

Yeah, and to be fair I was already thinking of how high I wanted to go when it came to that

Might be good as a community to offer some restrictions like with w0rld tournaments to keep people from going overboard, but that's a discussion for later I suppose

[fluid owl]

Do only digimon listed on NFC/adventure battles show up as random encounters in adventure?

[hardy quiver]

ye

the forced battles can be scary though. (Lowering firewall thing) Fought a ultimate as a rookie randomly

[fluid owl]

I'm toying with making a digivice dim, and the rest of the slots enemy Digimon.

If you turn it's NFC fight off, but it's in adventure that would keep it as a boss right?

[hardy quiver]

that idk

[eager harbor]

@hardy quiver has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)

[fluid owl]

I'll experiment and report back

[vast trout]

Don't think adventure stats do anything any more, but the placements are sound

[dim magnet]

In adventure random encounters the NFC chances are not used, so all characters may be picked within the criteria used for random encounters

For adventure bosses, you select the character you want

[fluid owl]

Yeah, I knew the boss was the boss, I was just hoping to somehow get them out of the random encounter pool

[brisk mortar]

What do you mean?

[vast trout]

Every boss has their own set stats (that usually doesn't match what that actual species values are - especially on trial DiMs), more or less increasing as you go

[brisk mortar]

Ohhh gotcha

[cyan geyser]

The bosses are definitely stronger. Pushing from no trophies to six or so made a big difference

The pendulum moves really come into play too - they're a lot of fun

[cursive trench]

Hey!
I tried the adventure twice, and each time it found a battle, the device prompted me to insert the time again, as if it was turning on. Am I doing something wrong? I'm running a custom dim that's basically a reskin of the blackeargreymon demo DIM

[dim magnet]

Sounds like you encountered a crash

If it is a custom Dim, there may very well be something slightly out of spec

[cursive trench]

I tried the adventure battle from the backup DIM and it also made it crash

[dim magnet]

Random encounters come from your current Dim. Have you tried setting the backup character as current and doing its adventure there?

If it still crashes, it's probably something with that Dim as well

[cursive trench]

Gonna try it
It just needs to evolve into rookie-

[finite garden]

Shame we couldn't get different files with different Digital field themes/dynamic wallpaper id love to have two versions running but feeling unique.

Plus I love a spooky Dyansty of evil run around Halloween.

[cyan geyser]

So what's the benefit of protein? Is it to drop mood so you can boost vitals through praise/food?

[brisk mortar]

Will the soft update require a device restart again? I have some cims I was gonna start but can’t transfer them to the app so was gonna wait if we need to restore and add it again.

[dim magnet]

It needs an uninstall and reinstall

[brisk mortar]

Ah gotcha then I’ll wait (no rush of course haha)

[turbid notch]

I use the scold option to lower the digimon vital points, so i can evolve it into an specific digimon: My digimon die >_>

[dim magnet]

You do have to be careful when you do it

[turbid notch]

Well, good to know that now.

How can i lower the VP then?

Since removing the watch from my wrist doesnt work anymore.

[dim magnet]

Don't go over in the first place

Or watch the meters

You can also try to lose battles

[turbid notch]

So i should stop using it at certain point if I want an specific digimon?

[dim magnet]

The usual strategies apply, such as putting the mon to sleep when you have the requirements where you want them

[turbid notch]

Ohmyfcknggod, i just took a look at the manual >_>

[turbid notch]

Thanks for the advice, i will have it in mind next time.

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @dim magnet (current: #2 - 544)

[turbid notch]

Oh im so pissed right now...

Guys, read the freaking Manual.... its everything there >_>

[pastel beacon]

Oh darn. I was hoping to make a DIM where you didn't fight the Digimon you could rasie. I understand not incorperating the NFC % encounter chances but it would be cool if it would only choose random opponents for Digimon that have a % chance above 0, that way you could exclude Digimon from the random encounters. Would probably be too much extra coding to check that the encounter % != 0 though.

[lunar lantern]

i evolved a veemon earlier today with 13 power trophies, and i havent done any training since. checking his stats he still has the 13 and no evo trophies like it should be

evolved to veedramon

though im not sure if im just remembering incorrectly, but it did show having no power trophies after i evolved it because i remember co sidering keeping it the way it is when the update comes out. i had started a new ancient warriors dim and put him in backup after checking his trophies

[trim pivot]

Reading the manual and experimenting is key. In the manual it says to watch your mood meter at all times before praising or scolding, as it will influence the outcomes.
I didn’t go into full detail when writing the manual in certain parts because, like the Pendulum counts, I want to keep a certain level of magic and discovery. However, since launch, scolding has been freaking many people out, so much that they never use it, which is understandable as no good Tamer wants to harm their Digimon.
I gave this hint earlier this summer, but many might not have been around to see it, and I don’t mind dropping it again.
In the right conditions, you can scold whenever you like with full safety, but you have to watch your mood meter. You must be sure your Digimon has enough mood so you won’t break its spirit. If a certain symbol appears on your mood meter, it will be a clear sign not to scold, as then and only then will it give your Digimon an injury. The same rules apply to praise and its effects.

[trim pivot]

Thanks for the input and checking 🔥 We'll have that changed soon enough

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @lunar lantern (current: #668 - 1)

[trim pivot]

It’s not about NFC percent chances, it’s about where the data is pulled from for the encounter. We’re using NFC logic for encounters, and NFC battles only pull from the active Digimon.
The system isn’t made to pull NFC data from the storage Digimon’s card, and doing so might be a bit of a process. It was already a technological feat to get system screen activation and random encounters to spawn in ADV mode in the first place.
Like I said before, I’m writing the game mechanics rules with the same limitations in mind that Cyanic faces while programming under Bandai’s closed HEX code and the system’s ROM settings, which makes this very complex.

[pastel beacon]

Oh, I wasn't implying loading encounter battles from other DIM storage than the active Digimon. I was commenting on how all Digimon (from the active DIM) are picked from when doing the random encounters even those that have a 0 in the NFC table, making it so XDragon cannot exclude the raisable Digimon from the random encounters during adventure mode.

[trim pivot]

You can only fight raisable Digimon during encounters because it pulls from the NFC of said active Digimon. Then from that only certain Digimon from that selection will appear at day and some at night

[dim magnet]

Filtering for just characters with an NFC encounter chance assigned is possible, although I'm not sure if that would affect the normal logic for picking an NFC encounter character. I think as long as you keep your cumulative chances to 100 it should be OK. Just don't pull a Renamon

[trim pivot]

Ahh, I see now. The question was about making a custom DIM with characters you put in place that aren't raiseable and making sure to only battle them by adjusting the spawn rate via the DIM Modifying program

[high aurora]

Yeah I had something like that for my Herissmon dim.

You could only raise the Herissmon line and you could only battle the Spiral enemies from ReArise with NFC

It was a decent setup

[trim pivot]

That is a decent setup. It spices things up 🔥. It’s cool that people have already thought to apply that setup to the encounter spawns too.

[wanton creek]

How do I get the yellow dumbbell on the right?

[dim magnet]

Hold both buttons in the training menu to switch trophy type

[wanton creek]

Ok thanks!!!!

[wanton creek]

What is UITALS?

[dim magnet]

VP

[wanton creek]

Can VP be trained and improved?

[dim magnet]

VP still works the same way as usual, plus the other ways outlined in the manual

[wanton creek]

I just did a UITALS workout and saw a 50 VP increase.

[dim magnet]

Yeah, you gain some VP from training. If you don't choose to increase your trophies, then you only get VP

[wanton creek]

Understood Thank you very much👌

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @dim magnet (current: #2 - 545)

[glad fern]

Bro, I encountered a special situation. I was doing a map strategy, but when I started the battle, the bracelet restarted.

[dim magnet]

Custom Dim?

[wanton creek]

He said that the ADV 2nd level of Renamon GP DIM will cause a reboot

[dim magnet]

Uhh huh. I can check if it's an original Renamon GP

[wanton creek]

The same thing happens in the fourth ADV stage of Impmon GP DIM, which will cause the system to restart.

[dim magnet]

Now that's weird

[wanton creek]

yes

[eager harbor]

@wanton creek has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[fiery vale]

Crash with Black Roar (I assume that is what @cursive trench meant), Impmon GP and Renamon GP Dims? I see a pattern there. They're all dims with less characters (7-8).

@trim pivot Did you try the adv mod with those dims during testing?

[turbid notch]

At first i was mad, and the my brain went like "Lean, this is a freaking new device. You arent mad with the device, you are mad with YOURSELF because YOU failed! >:T"

Its EVERYTHING in the manual....its the guide. It tells you eerything you need to know about to play it, but the rest you have to look for yourself, like any other game.

Its perfect. I suck xD

It wont happend again.

[trim pivot]

lol You're good D, That's the fun with Vpets and simulation games, You learn through harsh consequences. I've had my share of V-pets pets and Sim people die from oversight. One could say that you having this experience and learning from it is a part of the greater game 👀 That's some Never Ending Story mess

[trim pivot]

I tested the standard DIMs and the Terriermon EX DIM, and I think I have a fair idea of what’s happening. Earlier in the chat, Shiver reported a bug in Ver. 1 Digivice where the game would crash whenever their Digimon tried to revert to Child at midnight. The issue turned out to be the Custom DIM they were using as it had no Child level Digimon. The “Child” they were raising was actually an Adult with a Child sprite over it. So when the system looked for a true Child level to revert to and couldn’t find one, it caused a visual crash.

I can’t 100% confirm yet, but I believe something similar is happening with these GP DIMs now that ADV Mode calls upon specific Digimon when drawing encounters. When an encounter triggers, the system looks for specific activity types based on the time of day, plus certain evolution levels depending on which stage you’re on. For example certain stages will only generate Child Digimon and Adult and if it's 8 AM only certain activity types among the selection of Childs and Adults.

So what may be happening is this: the system enters ADV Mode, looks for, say, a Normal type Adult, and can’t find one. Since DIMs like the GP and Trial DIMs are so sparse, the system may not have the right opponent available to generate, which causes the crash.
Just a theory

[cyan geyser]

I've noticed my digimon doesn't call out much. After first hatching, it seems to call every hour or so for about a day. After that, I rarely get calls. Is that to be expected?

[eager harbor]

@cyan geyser has leveled up! (8 ➜ 9)

[trim pivot]

That is odd, I'm assuming you must keep your Digimon awake through out the day? because when it's asleep it wont call out

[cyan geyser]

Yeah, it's awake all day. At first I thought it's because I wasn't feeding it so I started doing that but still haven't really gotten anything since starting to max its food. It stopped taking food eventually too, giving me a little x icon above it

I'll pay attention to how frequently it calls today

[trim pivot]

Well one good thing the full works, That's supposed to be there when you feed and you reach a certain limit on your mood meter. Appreciate you looking out for the calls today. For reference when you look today, some calls are probability based and happen only at certain times but you should get poop here and there.

if you feed.

[cyan geyser]

I'll keep track and let you know how it goes!

[fiery vale]

Yep, I thought something on the line. Now that you gave an insight on the exact process, I bet it's that.

[trim pivot]

Ya I agree, that was it. I ran a test with the Renamon GP DIM by modifying it with a roster of Adults with different activity types. When I entered Stage 2, as reported, it crashed during an encounter.

After that, I tried again, this time filling the entire missing roster with Perfects and Ultimates as well, each with varying activity types. When I launched Stage 2, no crash occurred.
Since I've gotten spawns of Renamon and the Adults I put in.
This suggests that if someone wants to raise a solid line without other evolutions, like with the Trial and GP DIMs, they’ll need to ironically use the setup Ray and DocKlokman mentioned above, which is using Cfo Grady's DIM Modifier program to fill the cards roster with non raiseable enemies that have varying activity types. Otherwise, the system will crash when trying to draw an encounter in ADV mode.

[lunar lantern]

i think its meant to say Vitals, like vital points

[lunar lantern]

honestly thus could make a fun dim where you focus on one evo line, lock out the others to be unlocked by the last stage and boom, adventure where you fight digimon in adventure that you cant raise, right away at least

[frank parcel]

Which ones are Trial DIMs?

Sorry, I got into Vital Bracelet just this year, and solely because of the digivice version mod. So have no clue which DIMs were trial DIMs back in the day

[fiery vale]

I think this table on wikimon has the info you're looking for:
https://wikimon.net/Vital_Bracelet_Series/Memory_Cards#List_of_Dim_Cards

[frank parcel]

Thank you Sir!

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @fiery vale (current: #160 - 10)

[dull shell]

@trim pivot Is it possible for you to fix the power trophies reset issue for Digivice version? Otherwise, pvp will be very unfair for those of us using the Digivice version...

[left tapir]

Is there anything you can do when you get a skull 💀 below the heart meter. How many injuries can your digimon take?

[cyan geyser]

3, I believe

[high aurora]

Only one and then it's off to the glue factory 😔

[cyan geyser]

Really? I've had two injuries then die on the third

Maybe there's some status that impacts it 🤔

[left tapir]

My digimon was out on an adventure while I am at work. And when it got back it musted needed my attention and I was busy with a customer I must have missed it and got a strike. Lol well good to know. So far I'm loving the new version. Far more interactivity.

[lunar lantern]

are the random encounters in adv based on time or how many steps you take? i got 3 fights in 70 steps, but it took like 40 minutes because ive just been sittinf down

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@lunar lantern has evolved into Child!

[trim cloud]

Hi, I'm new to this, but I have a question. If I lost the backup file, is it possible to use the file from another VH?

[dim magnet]

No

[dim magnet]

Time-based

[lunar lantern]

ahh makes sense thats nice, makes me want to finish them faster to not get too many fights

[trim cloud]

I hate myself, thanks haha

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @dim magnet (current: #2 - 546)

[teal jackal]

Someone had mentioned this before, but just wanted to add that I'm also not getting any calls for my Susanoomon. I got one poop and one feed call as Beowolfmon a few days back but since then I haven't seen any other than an injury and bad mood

[eager harbor]

@teal jackal has leveled up! (9 ➜ 10)

[trim pivot]

Yup, Cyanic and I are working on a soft update that will preserve Power Trophy value for all three versions.

[calm crescent]

Didn't know people still into this VB

[trim pivot]

That's interesting input about the calls as well. So far my Jyagamon has gotten an ADV call and poop calls today. @teal jackal did you feed your Digimon lately and keep them awake? and @cyan geyser was your Digimon, like Fatcat's an Ultimate/Mega stage?
I'll keep observing my Digimon to see if I can get what you two are getting.

[cyan geyser]

Mine's a champion. The rookie did seem to call me frequently. Here are my notes from the day

9 am max happiness, wouldn't eat meat, fed vitamin. Got the broken hearted status.

10:08 poop, Max happiness

10:40 no call but gave some food

12:10 poop call

12:25 flushed

3 tried to feed but couldn't. Full vitals and happiness

4:25 fed when at non max happiness and vitals. Mood increased to max. No calls since the poop call at noon

6 poop call

[trim pivot]

Ok, that's actually good. That's 98% normal. Thanks for that, Only things missing are ADV calls and Training calls, which like I said, aren't always guaranteed because of probability and having to be around the right time of day. Looks like poop is happening consistantly after you feed. And you can only feed if your mood meter allows it

Train and ADV calls are like the event calls on the Digimon X

[cyan geyser]

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I think I wasn't getting many before because my mood was maxed so I couldn't feed

[brisk mortar]

I got a training call very early on for my in training digi I’ve only used it for one day

[hardy quiver]

Just trying to "sit" around all day not doing anything to see what actually happens.

8AM woke and fed.

Did praise twice today forgot to write down when I did them but only did it when digimon got broken heart.

6:49pm now, no calls aside for 2 broken hearts.

7:28pm finally pooped

[dull shell]

Great, thank you so much!

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #46 - 44)

[teal jackal]

I haven't fed him unless he's asked for it, but he has been awake essentially all day the past three days. I have gotten battle calls when out on adventures, not sure if that's what you mean by ADV calls or if there are supposed to be other random calls.

[hot yarrow]

is there anyway to buy the vital hero dm already modded with the training gear mod?

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@hot yarrow has evolved into Baby I!

[hot yarrow]

this is too complicated for me trying to mod myself lol

[dim magnet]

No if you don't want to be ripped off

Not really

A bunch of people in this channel have done it

[cyan geyser]

I was worried too but it's not too bad. Kind of fun once I had the pieces to put the programmer together

[hot yarrow]

I tried finding the

I looked into this but they dont sell to the us

[hot yarrow]

I really dont trust myself with putting this together lol

[vague bay]

Will this also work for the BE?

[dim magnet]

No

[dim magnet]

It's not difficult. Two PCBs connected by some wires, if you buy the correct parts you don't even need to solder

[hot yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-cat-cat-meme-catcoin-gif-9164440438767075157

yall are some geniuses

[trim pivot]

Ok, If you got hunger calls in the past three days and the Digimon hasn't pooped then that is something to take note of 🤔 ADV call is when your Digimon has a map above it on home

Thanks Col2A and Magickz 🔥 Those sound like healthy experiences as well

[trim pivot]

I'm never one to pressure anyone, everyone’s comfort level should be respected. That said, I do want to re-confirm what others have already said, for anyone who might come across this thread and feel discouraged.

Really, like everyone’s mentioned, it’s not difficult. If you can put together a first-grade level LEGO set, you can put a DIM programmer together. Soldering is completely optional. Most of us just plug and play; some even use rubber bands to keep everything neatly in place.

Since 2022 (or when DIM modding first started), I’d always assumed people were doing some S-rank level hacking to pull it off. When I first found Mr. Blinky’s site, I thought, “Hell NAW.” But early in this project, the original physical upgrade card we planned to use for distribution got lost in the mail. After Cyanic told me we could use the same method DIM modders had been using for years, it pushed me to get over that stigma of assembling the circuit board myself.

When the parts arrived, I plugged them in, and in less than five minutes I was up and running. Sometimes we build things up in our heads to be harder than they actually are, especially when certain public narratives reinforce that belief.

[worthy hearth]

Hi, I'm sorry to ask you this question all of a sudden, but can't the v version sold in Japan be in mode?

I installed the bin file well on vs dim, but when I install the dim card on the bracelet, an error appears, saying it is incompat version.

[livid pendant]

It has to be Vital Hero

[worthy hearth]

oh my gah~~~~

[sacred nymph]

Hey i just got my first bracelet to install this, is there any guide on how to do it? Thanks!

[turbid notch]

I finally got Lavorgaritamon, but sure it cost alot.
There is a ton of ways to gain VP, but only 1 "kinda" safe way to drop it, wich is the Scold. Loosing is a risk for injury and death.

I dont know if im missing something, or if its an issue for others :,v

Is it is, can the drop vp be raise to 700 instead of 500? 👀

[vast trout]

I've been banking on storage apps to get items for lowering VP

[turbid notch]

Wait, what app? the Arena? There is an item for that??

[vast trout]

Ah heck, seems the original Arena app doesn't even have those sort of items, only vital boosters

Been using VB Arena instead

[turbid notch]

ALRIGHT! The app from Nacabaro has something to drop vital at 1000. That should be useful....now i need to test the app and see how it works :p

[turbid notch]

Thank you for the idea!! x3

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @vast trout (current: #123 - 13)

[high aurora]

Ok I'm ready to try the mod now

[tribal forge]

the tower of babel

[cursive trench]

You doomed us all....

[high aurora]

Gonna climb up Vital Tower and overthrow god

[unreal sequoia]

Did I buy the crappiest CH341A ever or did I do something wrong? It keeps disconnecting when I try to do anything, and I have to unplug it and plug it back in for the computer to recognize it again

[hot yarrow]

My biggest fear is accidently bumping something during the process and corrupting data

That said I might just 3d print the case for the programmer I purchased

[vast trout]

Och, meant to say VB Helper

[dim magnet]

Unlikely. Dims have checksums, and the patching process also has checksums, so if you bump something and it fails, you just go and rewrite the data and try again

[hot yarrow]

The check sums are for after the file is completed. I'm referring to something accidentally unplugging in the middle of the process

[dim magnet]

Doesn't matter, you just retry

[hot yarrow]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5252584

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5256529

Or you secure it

I'm currently creating the molds 🙂

[dim magnet]

Not really necessary, but you can use it if it makes you feel better

[hot yarrow]

It does

[teal jackal]

Just to clarify, I meant that I haven't received a food call since I first installed the new version. He pooped once after that (maybe twice? I'm starting to doubt myself), but then pretty soon after evolved to stage 6 then jogressed, and since then I haven't seen a food or poop call at all.

I'll try switching to KaiserGreymon for today just to see if there's any difference

[lunar lantern]

i can confirm at least for the Real Digital Monster version, after an evolution it shows as having no power trophies until the digimon is put into backup then taken back out

or maybe thats a thing with the ancient warriors dim idk, bith evolutions ive tested it on have been veemon

[trim pivot]

Ahh, If you haven't feed manually or from lack of food calls then poop will stop after awhile. You should get an ADV, Train and feed call now and then though. I forgot to tell Whitty that food calls are also like ADV and Train calls. They are probability based and only happen at certain times of the day so you could miss some just by that reason. Poop and Supa happy though should pop up based on your actions. If you feed with or without a food call it should poop and also when you go over and beyond your step requirements with a 3 exercise score then that should pop up regularly as well.

[trim pivot]

Thanks for the input and you're right, currently Power Trophies are set in game to revert after evolution. There will be a soft update that will set them to stay permanently

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @lunar lantern (current: #498 - 2)

[lunar lantern]

the power trophies actually stay, it only shows as having none until the digimon is put into back up and when taken out, has the correct number of power trophies

for me at least maybe its inconsistent

[trim pivot]

Ohhh, That is odd O.o

I could have sworn I remembed my power trophies staying in place when I tested. Maybe what you just described was why, cause I did do a lot of transfering

[hardy quiver]

Is it intended for it to say current digimons name for the next evole route if you dont qualify for any of the routes? Im assuming so but just wanted to make sure.

[round idol]

Actually, the plural of Digimon is Digimans.

[trim pivot]

Yes that's intended.

[hardy quiver]

Kool kool, just going through everything to help with testing

[trim pivot]

I'm going to see if I can get the same results with the power trophies after my Jyagamon evolves. I'll put him in back up and see if his Power Trophies come back

[hardy quiver]

Would you rather I post here about this kinda stuff or in the custom dims discord?

[trim pivot]

You can show both places love. The CIM is a great place to try and find people to battle as they made a VSDIM section based on this mod. That community has been really great and welcoming

[eager harbor]

@trim pivot has leveled up! (10 ➜ 11)

[vast trout]

Oh, saw this happening after an app transfer and yeah, doesn't seem to update immediately

[teal jackal]

Got a adv call today with kaisergreymon, so hey that's something

[trim pivot]

So far, with a perfect, I’ve noticed: poop calls, 1 Feed, and 1 ADV today. I’m curious to see what happens when it evolves to Ultimate like Whitty and your Digimon, that might make a difference.

So far though, it looks ok on my end. Like mentioned, calls happen at specific times and by probability, so they may be missed if you weren’t looking at the right moment, or sometimes they might not activate. Knowing when to check has helped me notice them too.
Part of the fun might be discovering when different calls appear 👀

[round idol]

Actually, the plural of Digimon is Digimen.

[hot yarrow]

Making my programmer cover

[trim pivot]

You're taking the plunge and you're doing it your way. I respect that 💪

[hot yarrow]

I have to... I can't buy any pre built ones 😂

[trim pivot]

Ya, all this world conflict sucks

[hot yarrow]

Wait is that why they can't ship to the US?

Tariffs or something

[trim pivot]

I was under the assumption that's why. Seems like all types of trades are being limited now days

[hot yarrow]

😩

Well ... I get to make my own. Which I actually like the mold that I'm making for it. Hopefully it's the right size

[trim pivot]

Update on the power trophies. My perfect just evolved and as mentioned it lost all it's power trophies. However, after storing it in the capsule and bringing it back out again, all the power trophies returned 👀

I sent my Digimon to the app after the trophies returned and the Trophies still remained. This was probably why I thought my Digimon was keeping their power trophies when testing. I obviously had switched them in and out of capsule before looking at the Trophy number.

Very odd, We'll have to see what's going on. Thanks @lunar lantern for informing us on your Power Trophies returning after being put in storage.

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @lunar lantern (current: #394 - 3)

[cyan geyser]

Oh interesting

Yeah, that works. I had some power trophies from rookie but lost them on Evo. Just put my ultimate in a capsule and he had them all back on withdrawal

[teal jackal]

Aaah, if all calls including poop and feed are at certain times of the day then that could be part of the issue for me at least. I work late so the earliest I'd be awake to have my watch on is noon, usually closer to 2pm. So I'm probably missing half the call chances, assuming that it's split that way

[trim pivot]

Poop is reactionary to all feeds whether they're manual ones or from reacting to the feed call but ya, The others ones not showing based on your schedule does make sense. You are missing a couple starting at 2PM.
A small hint, I aimed to be mindful of different peoples schedules and habits when writing the call schedule so all the calls you missed in the morning will repeat later in the day, You have half the chance of seeing them as someone who starts playing early in the day but if you're around at the right time and the probability is right you still might get some, like tonight with the ADV call. Meat wise you have 2 chances to see the feed call with your schedule as well.

[teal jackal]

Nice, thank you for letting me know! I'll keep an eye out for the rest of the day. If I'm not seeing much, I might get a fresh dim tomorrow and see what happens

[cyan geyser]

I don't think I've gotten any calls today 🤔 Evolved this morning and did adventures for about two hours from 11am to 1pm

[fiery vale]

This is so weird.
Not knowing the code, I can think of two possible explanations: 1.it's just a showing bug; the trophies are still there, but they're not shown after evolution for whatever reason (wrong variable call?).
2.power trophies do reset after evolution, but storing in capsule save their number in a separate variable that is not overwritten when it's null (0); therefore, storing and taking it out of capsule returns the previously saved value of power trophies.
The latter can be easily tested: get any number of power trophies (let's say 3); store the digimon in capsule and bring it out; get another power trophy (total = 4); let it evolve (total = 0) without storing; store it and bring it out. This way we can see if it has the right amount (4) or the previous amount (3), which would confirm hypothesis 2.

[hot yarrow]

anyone know of an electronic lazy way of shaking the vital hero 😛

I thought about unscrewing the fan case and strapping it to one of the fan blades XD

[stray roost]

You can buy a phone swing, kind of like a rocking cradle for your phone.
Apparently people use them to fake steps in phone apps, but I got one for the VBBE because I'm not training my stats to 999 manually.

Works pretty well, and they're quite cheap

[hot yarrow]

I knew it was a thing lol

[eager harbor]

@hot yarrow has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)

[hot yarrow]

is this on amazon or something?

[stray roost]

Everything is on Amazon these days

[hot yarrow]

figures lol

[stray roost]

But generally, for anything with a digital pedometer, it's really useful.

Just, leave it disassembled when you're not using it, the magnet inside can cause it to start rocking for no real reason, which is horrifying at 3am and you wake up to a haunting clicking coming from your desk

[fiery vale]

Neat!

[midnight spoke]

Today in the mail, I was able to get my programmer items, was having troubleshoot issues getting the DIM card tool to find CH341A driver (needed to use a parallel driver because I’m using a 341B chip ig) but once I got that I have been backing up the cards I’ve bought and updated to digital monster version. I absolutely am loving how this works

[hollow drum]

Updated pendulum mechanics list (WIP)
Active: Tera Shot ||10 shakes||, Mega Hit ||13 shakes||
Normal: Tera Shot ||5 shakes||, Mega Hit ||8 shakes||
Lazy: Tera Shot ||1 shake||, Mega Hit ||2 shakes||

[wanton creek]

I have studied all of them. How to enter the effect of hiding text?

[errant forge]

Hello. So I downloaded the mod and didn't read a damn thing as I stepped out. Im sure it was asked many times but how can I restore my digivice to its old version so I can update it to this new training mod? Thank you in advance.

I still have the other mod on it so im still happy

[turbid notch]

Indoors (like Purpucomon, the teddy with nails and aviator mask)
||TERA SHOT: 3||
||MEGA SHOT: 4||

[turbid notch]

Check the Manual. Its everything there.

[errant forge]

Thank you

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @turbid notch (current: #394 - 3)

[livid pendant]

you follow this step

[errant forge]

Thank you

[turbid notch]

Literally, the manual :p

[livid pendant]

you restore it the same way you would install the mod

[wanton creek]

||test||

[errant forge]

I figured but I just walked out after getting it

[livid pendant]

you must have the backup from installation

[turbid notch]

||you did it! Congratz!!!||

[wanton creek]

Oh, oh, oh, I learned it.

[wanton creek]

Personality (1) (STOIC)
||- Shake 15 times + big move

• Shake 17 times + 4HP+2DP||

Personality (2) (ACTIVE)
||- Shake 10 times + big move

• Shake 13 times + 4HP+2DP||

Personality (3) (NORMAL)
||- Shake 5 times + big move

• Shake 8 times + 4HP + 2DP||

PERSONALITY (4) (INDOOR)
||- Shake 3 times + big move

• Shake 4 times + 4HP+2DP||

PERSONALITY (5) (LAZY)
||- Shake 1 time + big move

• Shake 2 times + 4HP + 2DP||

[turbid notch]

Thats all, right?

[wanton creek]

This is the data measured by me and my friends.

[turbid notch]

Cool! But i mean, thats all, right? There isn't more personality, right?

[wanton creek]

That's all.

[turbid notch]

Awesome!!

[wanton creek]

In order to publish these data, I learned how to hide the text.

[turbid notch]

Btw. I just learn that with the NACABARO VB Helper app, you can send the digimon from Vital Bracelet/Digivice-V- to Vital Hero! 😮

Didnt know that :3

Till now.

[frank parcel]

Can someone please tell me where to buy pre-soldered and ready to use CH347 programmers?

Is this one pre-soldered and ready to use:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7MHTMSC

Anyone bought this before?

[tepid heron]

Potentially dumb question, but will the Kamen Rider dim cards work on the training gear software?

[trim pivot]

They will work, as well as the Ultraman DIMS. Just be mindful that they won't be transferable to the Arena app because the app won't accept Ultraman and Kamen rider DIMS that don't come from Ultraman and Kamen rider specific VB devices.

[tepid heron]

Perfect, thank you

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@tepid heron has evolved into Baby I!

[hot yarrow]

Can you share the link to this driver?

[hot yarrow]

Also nice omnimon

[hot yarrow]

This is a battle component? So shaking during battles gets better stuff?

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@hot yarrow has evolved into Baby II!

[dim magnet]

https://www.wch-ic.com/downloads/CH341PAR_EXE.html

[midnight spoke]

Thank you, he’s one of my favorites! It would’ve taken me a hot minute to respond , thank you cyanic for posting that.

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @hot yarrow (current: #669 - 1)

[hollow drum]

Before any (non-connection) battle, it'll give you a 3 second count down and then prompt you to shake. If you shake the exact right amount of times for your 'mon's activity type, you'll either get a free critical shot before the battle starts or a stat boost for the duration of the battle

[hasty current]

Successfully built the rig and installed the mod on my VH today! Starting with a Bombmon from NuMetalEmpire.

[hot yarrow]

Just finished my programmer case

[cyan geyser]

Yeah, once I hit ultimate I stopped getting calls. Starting up a new dim to check that one

[hot yarrow]

My greymon is so close to metal greymon. I'm so excited

[hot yarrow]

What mon do you have

[cyan geyser]

Ended Nu Metal Empire with HeavyLeomon. Switching to Hermit in the Jungle now

[hot yarrow]

What card gets you leomon 😯

[cyan geyser]

Nu Metal Empire doesn't have Leomon but it has HeavyLeomon!

[livid pendant]

Angoramon Dim have Leomon

[hot yarrow]

I've literally never heard of heavy leomon lol

I can just use the programmer thing to make dims to have new mon right?

[hasty current]

Yep. I just use the VS one for transfering DIMs that I don't actually own.

[eager harbor]

@hasty current has leveled up! (10 ➜ 11)

[hasty current]

Auspicious.

But I have also thrown the Mad Black Roar DIM in. So tomorrow I will have Hagurumon and Agumon Black to futz with.

[hot yarrow]

Makes sense cus it's useless 😔

[cyan geyser]

Evolved to in training and immediately called

[steel gulch]

Hi! One question with the new version: is adventure progress locked to the digimon stage? On the base digital monster I have a pulsemon from Impulse City DIM(no edits except changing the digimon splash art) who has win stage 1 two times, but it doesn't let me select stage 2

[stray roost]

Has they definitely finished the stage?
Because there are random encounters now during ADV missions, so maybe they fought against those 2 times but didn't actually finish the stage.

[livid pendant]

did the counter reach 0 and shown the word ace

[vast trout]

You can tell if you're actually facing the boss if the background matches the DiM and not just the generic one for instant battles

[steel gulch]

Ah! Okay,thanks!

[hasty current]

When does the "Digivice" regression activate? Does keeping a digimon in the Capsule overnight prevent regression? (Using the Pendulum Digivice mode)

[lunar lantern]

its supposed to happen when the clock hits midnight, but it can be stopped by putting it in the capsule or the app

or if the watch just turna pff before midnight happens on it

aka the switch on the back

[hasty current]

Thank you!

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @lunar lantern (current: #336 - 4)

[unreal sequoia]

This is a dumb question but how long does it take for the whole flashing-onto-a-dimcard process take? Mr Blinky has been stuck at "Erasing chip... " for like 15 minutes. Do I just need more patience? Or is something broken?

First time trying out mods....

here's the rig

[dim magnet]

Shouldn't take too long. The erasing should be around 30 seconds or so

[crude reef]

Usually around 2 minutes for a dim for me

[unreal sequoia]

hmmm thanks - guessing something is wrong with my CH341A

[eager harbor]

@unreal sequoia has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[unreal sequoia]

anyone have any debugging tips? or should I just give up and buy a new CH341 A?

[dim magnet]

Use a regular programmer software

[unreal sequoia]

damn thanks

[trim pivot]

A wire issue could be the problem as well. If one wire has a kink it can prevent the whole process. It happened to me once, my DIM was stuck loading like your case and the only solution was to find the wire that was causing the issue and replace it.

[unreal sequoia]

Installed AsProgrammer and I think it's finding the CH341A. It says "Check settings" in the logs at the bottom... what does that mean?

annd my laptop just crashed - hoping that doesn't break anything haha. think I'm gonna have to raise a virus digimon or sonething after I finally get this to work

[trim pivot]

From what I read "Check settings" In Asprogrammer could be from a variety of reasons, one being proper contact with the programmer isn't being made which could be because of the wire issue I mentioned. Might not be your problem but something to look into. Hopefully you purchased a packet of female wires with a lot of spares.

[unreal sequoia]

thanks!!! Going to have to put this down for now and try it again later. Really hyped about the mod so fingers crossed

[hasty current]

I also made a silly mistake with the wires yesterday and had them on the wrong ports. Idk if that would cause this error but it is worth checking into ❤️

[hasty current]

Digivolving multiple times a day is really cool. All the way to Metal Greymon (Virus) and my boy is big chillin'

[hardy quiver]

out of curiosity which dim you using?

[hollow drum]

One of the non-EX Agumon DIMs, Metal Greymon (Virus) appears on Dinosaur Roar, Mad Black Roar and Black Roar

[hasty current]

Mad Black Roar! Great roster if you love weird little evil dinos

[mossy tundra]

hi! question

can you delete a digimon to make room for other?

[dim magnet]

Just start a new mon, and you can select the one to delete if you already have two loaded

[mossy tundra]

sorry, where is the start a new mon option?

[dim magnet]

Just insert a Dim

[mossy tundra]

yeah i did

it does nothing

[dim magnet]

Is the mon sleeping?

[mossy tundra]

do i have to press any button?

OH

IT IS

ty Cyanic

yeah problem solved

https://tenor.com/view/love-it-yes-gif-26957468

[broken mountain]

anyone know why ocurre this?
In adv mission, after complete the steps and shot the Battle, the VH open date/hour screen, cancel the battle and reset the steps count

[dim magnet]

Crash due to some oddity with your Dim

There's an open issue with Dims containing fewer characters than normal

[trim pivot]

If this is a Trial DIM, GP DIM, or a Custom DIM where you’ve removed Digimon from the roster, you’ll need to replace the missing Digimon, making sure the roster is full, by using Cfogrady’s DIM Modifier. Make sure to include a variety of activity types. Specifically, ensure that each evolution stage has at least one Normal-activity-type Digimon.

These roster fill-ins don’t need to be raisable monsters—they just need to exist so that the ADV Encounter logic has a full pool of Digimon to draw from.

Here’s why: the new ADV Encounter system selects Digimon based on evolution stage and activity type, depending on the ADV stage you choose and the time of day.
Example: 10AM, Look for a Stoic Perfect in Roster.
If the roster isn’t full, because of being a Trial, GP or special Custom DIM the system can’t find a suitable Digimon, which can cause a crash to the date screen.

[hasty current]

Absolutely love the digivice mechanics. Getting up to Perfect in a single day was a fun little challenge.

[broken mountain]

oh i see
the dim that i used is a GP

thanks a lot
the mod is very nice. I just wish the battery lasted longer 🫠

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #45 - 45)

[dusky birch]

Hi, im gonna be reverting my firmware back to the original to install the new update. I was wondering will my stage 15 clear I just did on monodramon be reset?

[dim magnet]

It should be retained in an NFC transfer

[dusky birch]

thanks

[inland girder]

Will the non-Pendulum branch of this be updated going forward, or was the release prior to Pendulum the last update for the simpler version?

[trim pivot]

Before, I’ve answered questions about porting possibilities and explained that supporting multiple devices with different firmware isn’t sustainable for a two person team. The same applies to updating and managing multiple versions of Digimon Link. Right now, to meet the needs and play styles of different players, we already maintain three versions: Digimon Link, Real Digital Monster, and Digivice.

We’ve been able to deliver both quality and stability with Digimon Link while releasing on schedule because we’ve worked under the philosophy of balancing innovation with practicality focusing our efforts rather than spreading them too thin. Like with porting, if we started dividing our attention beyond the three mainline versions we already manage, and treated Ver.1 as a separate branch of Digimon Link, it could quickly become unsustainable for just two people.

That said, in the next soft update to Pendulum, there will be some soft improvements to Ver.1 (Legacy) included in the package. These won’t be on the same scale as Ver. Pendulum, but they will include a few quality of life tweaks to enhance your enjoyment of the original Legacy version. However, due to the limitations I’ve mentioned it may be the last update as, Ver.1 won’t be developed as a fully separate and unique branch of Digimon Link. Thank you for your interest and support

[fiery vale]

Speaking of which, the latest version of the previous mod is 1.1, right? I ask because I had downloaded the pack in May, but I remember there has been at least one update.
I think it would be useful to ask a mod to pin all the download links, at least for the most recent versions. It's quite a pain having to scroll the thread to find the right link.

[stray roost]

You'll never guess what there is

[trim pivot]

I agree, Version 1.1 is included in the current Digimon Link Pendulum pack. Labeled as Legacy, which is currently in the pins thanks to the mods.

[fiery vale]

Ah, ok, didn't know it was included in the pendulum one! Good idea!

[dusky birch]

Hi so im reading the paperwork and im not sure what kind of pendulum I want.

I like to hear your guys thoughts

[turbid notch]

I like the Not REAL one, because i dont want them to die. Not yet at least.
i have some DiMs and i would like to have them raised for the future.
But i understand at some point i probably would, once i raise everything.

Digivice doesnt lure me enough. I cant say much about it.

[cyan geyser]

I really like the real version. I appreciate the higher step counts and the time limit

[lunar lantern]

are the stage 5 and 15 gate guardians random encounters or the actual goal boss?

are if it is the adventuer boss does the increase in stats still happen if i have altered them already in the dim modifier?

[cyan geyser]

Getting calls reliably on my new dim, at least up through champion stage. I love the adventure call - got me outside for a lunchtime walk 😅

[trim pivot]

Stages 5, 10 and 15 are the Gate Guardians, They are the end bosses at the end of the level not the encounters. Their stat increase will still happen even after you alter them in the DIM Modifier.
Interesting thing about changing stats in the DIM Modifier, everything else in it works flawlessly, however I haven't been able to see any in game differences in power when editing stats via that program myself.

[lunar lantern]

interesting, so would it be suggested to use the normal values for the best experience?

ive had like 80%+ win rate since rookie level

[trim pivot]

I'd say so, If I saw a difference in power after changing stats in the DIM Modifier I'd say you can experiment and have fun making them what you want, but since it doesn't seem to change anything ( at least in my experience with editing DIMS ) using the base values is enough, especially since bosses have been made tougher now by directly editing the in game code.

[lunar lantern]

good to know, thanks again

[brisk mortar]

You think it’s possible for the sound to be on only for the calls/alarms? The normal beeping when the sound is on is so loud 😂

I think it already does stay on for alarm but wasn’t sure if it’s possible for calls too

[dim magnet]

Sounds aren't forced on for calls, but they are for alarms

There isn't another sound setting available

[dusky birch]

I'm still not sure hmm

So I did the Vital Hero route on the previous version

[brisk mortar]

Ah guess I’ll just have to check the watch for the calls

[viscid raven]

I can't decide if I wanna go for Real Digital Monster or Digital Monster yet

the die from age part lures me though, but I'm not sure of the difficulty yet

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@viscid raven has evolved into Perfect!

[dim magnet]

Why not just start one and try it out? If you don't like it, move your mon to the app and install the other version

[viscid raven]

I suppose you are right, also question, do I have to use a DiM card or is microSD card possible for installing the firmware?

nevermind, found the answer to that

[dusky birch]

I think I will try real digital monster

that way i can complete a dim without having reload the dim each time

How long is age 19 though, like 19 days?

Oh well, I'll just find out. Time to get out of my confort zone with it

[viscid raven]

should be, yeah

[dusky birch]

Okay do i have to do the shake thing for fights?

I prefer letting the fights be idle like they were, and the pezio speaker so its a bit much.

[dim magnet]

You can ignore that if you want

[dusky birch]

oh good, the main issue is the noise

I don't really wanna mute my whole watch for it so is there a way to stop it from beeping if im say walking in public and a battle goes off.

Anyways i gotta head off to bed thanks for letting me know 🙂

[dim magnet]

No, that's a thing on the base firmware as well. You can have all sounds on or all sounds off, not selective sounds off. Alarms will always sound

[dusky birch]

Alright, I'll just test it out thanks for letting me know

love the background btw

Anyways have a good night

[round idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761583977748103178/848705637743067196/night_toko.mp4

[plucky nacelle]

Hey, super dumb question, is there any way to change time on main menu from 11pm to 23h?

[trim pivot]

That option will be available soon in the upcoming soft update

[fiery vale]

Really?! I love you. xD

[plucky nacelle]

Awesome! (It is really a minor thing I'm loving the Digimon Link Pendulum)

[dusky birch]

Wow I did not expect the option to pick my excercise let alone auto loop for it nice

I don't have a BE so I can't say for sure but it looks like this thing is gonna beat the BE

By the way what does "higher step requirements" and "Raising Penalties" mean.

[trim pivot]

The step requirements are a new feature that encourages exercise or opens a window for you to feed or use praise for bonus VP. Every activity type has a a set step number you must fulfil every 2 hours and if you don't your Digimon's mood will go down a bit. Meet the step requirement and your Digimon's mood will go up and go over and beyond the step requirement and your Digimon will be given a bonus after the 2 hour timer counts down. Digital Monster and Digivice have the same count, and Real Digital Monster has a higher count and over and beyond set requirement. You can see your step requirment progress in the page after the mood meter in the Digimon section.
Penalties are the same as last version, Scolding when reaching a certain point on the mood meter and now not meeting a step requirement or letting a missed feed call lower your mood to zero.

[turbid notch]

its THE BEST upgrade so far. It s what should ALWAYS should be!

Thanks for nothing, Bandai >:'v

[dusky birch]

thanks @trim pivot whats going on with adv missions they are like completing too quickily?

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #44 - 46)

[trim pivot]

What you're probably experiencing is the new encounter battle feature. While you walk to the boss Digimon will now challenge you and your Digimon, which ones you see will be based on the time of day. Lose and get sent back 200 steps, flee 100 and win proceed, Certain stages will have stronger higher level rare spawns and if you beat them you advance 500 steps down the map

[dusky birch]

I see, thats very neat but I don't like it

too noisy is all ^^

my family tolerates this thing at times with the beeps

from a programing point of view though very cool

Is there a option to have a hybrid between the first link and this ones QOL.

Like selecting your exercise, top tier UI, feeding and sleeping thing.

Also if its not a option, thats no problem im not expecting you to make a feature. Trust me the head of Digimon Showdown, I know people expect you to just do the thing.

[trim pivot]

Glad you like the programming 🔥 Ya that's understandable, might be a case where you have to mute while with family and optionally unmute while outdoors ( depending if you live in a populated area of coarse )
Also, If you're using indoors and not walking you can use the DIM Modifier and set the steps to a very low amount. The encounter battles are time based so if you just want to shake it to go to the boss making the step amount low will eliminate seeing encounters.
As far as Ver. 1, If you would like to read my insights on that, I mentioned above recently to a similar question on the limits of branching Ver. 1 into it's own unique creation due to the limits of a two person team, However, with that said, very soon Ver.1 Will be given some soft QOL upgrades. It may be the last update to Ver.1 but it will enhance the experience. Don't exspect the major features of Pendulum however as like I said that's not sustainable for a indie two person team.

[dusky birch]

Of course

I don't expect anything to be honest, this is a gift from you two

Thank you for the transparency

Sounds like version one might be more my thing. Let me see check that insight thing

Okay I can't find it, sorry

Can you pass it to me when you get a chance, or let give like a bullet point list of the updates version might be getting?

[trim pivot]

It was posted on September 3rd above. I basically just mentioned about the decision to focus on select items rather than spreading ourselves to thin. I can definitely pass it to you when it comes out, I'm a silly goose who likes to surprise, so I'm not going to reveal the updates coming yet but they will be out very soon. I can tag you when it comes out

[dusky birch]

Okay!

In the meantime i'll swap back to version one. Still for those who want the full vpet experience this is great

[cyan geyser]

I... Think I'm no longer getting calls on this Dim. Either that or I've missed them all today which feels unlikely.

I'm starting to wonder if it has to do with the age maybe? I feel like I've never had a digimon get calls at 2 or older. I'll keep messing with it though

[turbid notch]

My only complain now is the battery >_>

It last like...6 hours now >_>

(with pure battles thanks to the adventura training)

I need a way to fix that....

[cyan geyser]

This is me guessing completely, but could this be due to the fact that I never turn off my device? I just charge it overnight. This is maybe just by chance but I turned my VH off then on again and got a call within about 20 minutes

[white flint]

Okay I finally got my Bazjo DiM programmer set up and installed the amazing firmware you've all made and wow. Wow. This is so cool!!?! I'm trying to investigate which of the versions suits my style, and so far I'm torn between Digivice and digital monster but I was also kinda curious about the legacy one.

Out of curiosity, I was wondering what the big differences between the legacy and pendulum versions as of the current update even are? Is it that the legacy does not have the feeding flushing and mood? Like the digital pet aspects? Also the shaking and pendulum attacks, I would assume. What about like daytime cycle and alarm and exercise selection? Those are all new too, yes?

[trim pivot]

Glad you're all set up 🔥 And yup, Everything you said is a part of the new Pendulum update. Care mechanics, Pendulum, Alarm, Daytime cycle and more. The biggest difference between the original Legacy release and the new Pendulum update is the huge library of added interactivity, strategy and engaging features.

Ver. 1's ( Legacy ) is the mod's first released build so it doesn't have all the new features, but for some that might be perfect. It has it's own charm too, and since it didn't use as much space as the Pendulum update it has 10 cozy non time cycling wallpapers. If you would like a more laid back and casual experience legacy is a good choice.

[white flint]

Thanks yeah I'm super excited!! And the things cyanic was able to do through hex code is kinda baffling me as a programmer like wow.

But okay yeah so seems like the main thing the original legacy version added was graphical stuff? Reason I ask is cuz I'm mobility impaired, use a wheelchair, and so can only do the shadowboxing and not much walking unfortunately and so I'm trying to explore the different options to see what best fits my circumstances. I think the ability to choose exercises in the pendulum is huge tho. Like that makes it so much more accessible for people like me!!

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #43 - 47)

[trim pivot]

I'm glad you shared your needs as I may have some input. In the new ADV mode there are time based encounters where Digimon challenge you from time to time.

That may be a way to interactively engage in battles and ADV mode if mobility is a challenge. You can set the device on the table and either wait or do your own form of exercises while you wait for a battle.

You also mentioned boxing being your main way of exercising before. The Pendulum function may be aligned with your boxing leanings.

Overall the Pendulum update was meant to add a good mix of indoor play to the VB. Making it so you can interact with the device with more than just exercise and physical activity. So functions like feeding, cleaning poop and pendulum may help fill some of the gaps that mobility issues may bring. Then as you said, selectable training can be used for your physical mobility needs.

[white flint]

:0

I didn't know about the adventure mode change with the timers that is HUGE for me thank you so much??? These pointers have been super helpful! Such a cool thing you and cyanic have done here. 🙏

[mossy tundra]

i have one question guys, if you like to collect digis and dont like them dyiing from old, digivice is best option?

once you reach final form in digivice version, even if they return back to baby, you can transform in full power whenever you want?

no need for requisites?

thanks in advance!

[trim pivot]

In the Digital Monster Ver. ( Not real ) You can raise them without worry of them Dying. And Yup, In Digivice, When they revert to Child you can do it all over again the next day

[lunar lantern]

maybe the random encounters can have the same increased stats as the adv boss you are currently doing, i seem to win almost every random encounter and it would seem to help Izalith's situation

[trim pivot]

That is something to consider for the Real Digital Monster Ver. Which is the hard mode of the three Ver.
I don't want to make all the enemies the same strength as the power contrast between flunkies and bosses make the end stage fights more special and engaging.
Plus all enemies of the same strength would get rid of the option for people to farm for battles for evolution without major threat.
But making the encounters slightly more powerful, not as much as the bosses but still a bump, in Real Digital Monster version is a valid and good consideration

[trim pivot]

Reading your logs on the Calls has been really interesting. I understand it can be frustrating if you’re not seeing them, Unfortunately I haven’t been able to replicate your experience myself, as I’ve had Digimon of various levels (including Ultimates) and have still received different calls multiple times on different days.

One factor that might affect it is how often you’re in ADV mode throughout the day, since being in ADV mode can block Calls. If a Call is scheduled to appear while you’re in ADV mode, you may miss it.

When I designed the Calls, the goal was for them to feel occasional and special, not routine, something that pops up from time to time and is appreciated when it does, much like events in real life. ADV Calls, Feeding Calls, and Training Calls all work based on probabilities, time of day, and activation durations. For example, some Calls are only active for 10 minutes and go through a 30% probability check, so it’s easy to miss them if you’re not looking at the right time. ADV Calls, once passing a probability check and activating last an hour, so they’re easier to notice, but even those can be missed depending on timing and activity.

While it’s rare to not see them at all, I haven’t been able to replicate your experience, as I’ve been seeing Calls regularly at their expected times. Though I’m aided by the knowledge of when exactly to look, but if you don't know the exact times to look for them missing them can happen depending on timing and activity. Hopefully this helps explain what you’re seeing, and I really appreciate you sharing your logs.

[mossy tundra]

if i reached a evolution, can i warp into that one without meeting requisites?

so i dont loose my progress every day

[mossy tundra]

do i keep the trained stats of my digimon when it dedigivolve or does it completely reset? im trying to decide wha'ts the best gameplay option for me

[fiery vale]

Based on what I read (i.e. I don't know by experience, because I don't own one), when it resets you have to reach the requisites again for any specific evolution (so, no, it doesn't work like the Digivice toy where the evolution stays unlocked and can be picked any time).

[mossy tundra]

so you loose all the progress every day? is there a way to avoid it?

like putting on freeze

every day

so it doesn't go back

no one likes to loose progress 🙁

i thougth it was cool reverting back but just if you get the option to warp again to your desired evo once unlocked

if not, whats the difference between that and starting a new digimon?

OH NOW I GET IT

the reduced evo timer is only avaliable

in Digivice ver

[crude reef]

I find as well it can be helpful to modify the dim to reduce the evo requirements , reduce the vital requirements to 0 and stagger the trophy requirements to 3/6/9 to make it quicker and easier to hit the required target, then cut the timer to 0 to choose the evo you want.

[trim pivot]

You asked what’s the incentive to Digivice Ver. Here’s just an insight on what influenced it, and maybe some reasons to consider when choosing which ver you’d like to play.
The Digivice Ver. is a warm callback to devices called Digimon Pendulum Cycles. They were a Southeast Asia exclusive toy released in the early 2000s. In that game, every day your Digimon would revert back to earlier evolutions at certain times, making a “Cycle.”

Like you just realized in Digimon Link Digivice, an added component was included where you can reduce the evo timer to zero, making it so you can blast through evolutions as swiftly as you’d like. The challenge and fun come in with seeing how far you can get up the evolutionary path in one day. This acts as a real exercise challenge depending on how you set up your DIM, or it just adds a lot of fun if you set it up like mentioned above. You can revisit your favorite evolutions every day, and if you like having a Child Level at your side without losing it after evolving, Digivice Ver. offers that too. Also, Digivice provides a way to complete a whole DIM Dex Library with only one Digimon, instead of raising multiple different Digimon.

Everything is reverted when they de-evolve at night, as that recreates the challenge and allows you to evolve into whoever you want again instead of being locked into a fixed route permanently. However, in the upcoming Pendulum soft update, Power Trophies will be saved, even overnight after the Digimon reverts back to Child.

[crude reef]

very much looking forward to the power trophies not resetting!

[cyan geyser]

Thanks for sharing the info! And no frustration on my side - I'm mostly just sharing in case it helps track down what's going on 😊 I'm having a great time with the mod and really appreciate all the work you and the team have put in!

[dusky birch]

Yup for fun would you like to hear some ideas I have for legacy?

Not that they need to be features

[trim pivot]

I really appreciate the enthusiasm, I always encourage creativity, and I’m sure your ideas are fun. That said, as I’ve mentioned before, we don’t have the sustainability to branch off into multiple firmwares without sacrificing the swiftness, quality, and care that Cyanic and I put into Digimon Link. In the end focusing on to many difern't firmware would lessen the quality of not only the Pendulum branch but also any other branch we tried to juggle with it. Because of that, I’d rather not hype anyone up with potential cool features or ideas for Ver. 1 that we simply can’t deliver.

[hot yarrow]

hey guys silly question here

what is the difference between the Digimon Link Pendulum Package

and the Digimon Link Download Pack

[dim magnet]

One's the older version

[hot yarrow]

the digimon link is the older one?

thank you for responding lol

also I saw this on your site?
https://veak.design/products/upgrade-memory-by-heat-and-cyanic

is this something that is beneficial to buy?

[dim magnet]

It is out of stock

Also not compatible with Vital Hero

[hot yarrow]

oh okay lol

ty

[fiery vale]

Funny, ever since I got my VB (an og), I did exactly the same to make it... well let's say playable (not exactly funny, but not impossibly frustrating either).
I use the combination 5\3\1\0 for trophies (with 4 evolutions).

[mossy tundra]

Wow that make so much sense

Thank you for the thoughtful answer

Here is other question

About the bug with the short dim cards

Is there any plans of fixing the adventure mode bug to let untampered dim cards work with it

?

Short dim cards = tamers GP , medarot etc

[hasty current]

I was really excited to try this mode and want to say that it is highly fulfilling. For me, it actually feels more like how the VBs work in ghost game, and how digimon generally tend to work in the Adventure settings. Super fun and far more affordable/customizable than the actual digivice toys.

[hot yarrow]

anyone able to help troubleshoot dim reader and dim modifier issues?

I just had it running yesterday and now it isn't running since I installed the programmer driver

this is the error I'm getting

[trim pivot]

Seems nobody has an answer, If you already didn't figure it out, that may be something you'd need to ask Cfogrady about

[silk sequoia]

I have installed the digivice version, but i want to change it to the digital monster one, how do I change it?

[dim magnet]

Uninstall and reinstall

[silk sequoia]

Also, with the trophies changes, how do I know in wich digimon will mine evolve, does it has the same requirements as the normal vital hero?, like have earned x trophies and win x battles...

[silk sequoia]

Is it an option within the watch or do I have to install something else in the dim card with the mod programmer? Sorry for asking so much, I'm such a noob with this

[livid pendant]

for digital monster it's the same

Dunno about real or digivice ones

[silk sequoia]

Thank you 🙏🙏

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @livid pendant (current: #671 - 1)

[dim magnet]

Literally uninstall and reinstall the same way you did the first time

You can insert the same Dim you installed with to uninstall

[silk sequoia]

okay, thank you 🙏

[eager harbor]

@silk sequoia has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

SHINKA!

@silk sequoia has evolved into Baby I!

[dim magnet]

Nothing about evolution changes

[trim pivot]

There actually is. In the next upcoming soft update people wont have to do the roster filling work around I came up with to do ADV mode in Pendulum. You'll be able to enjoy encounter battles on Pendulum with stock unedited GP, Trial and the Medarot DIM

[mossy tundra]

How you explain and how you deliver is a 10/10

Thanks for everything to you and cyanic you are awesome guys

[wanton creek]

@trim pivot Bug Report: When playing an ADV adventure with the official Digimon "Garuru Metal" from the official DiM "Medarot," the game will freeze on that screen if you don't manually press the confirm button. If you continue shaking the VH, the game will crash and restart.

[wanton creek]

Source:@glad fern

[harsh compass]

Could someone help me out with the shake count for the pendulums? I've no idea what ball park to aim for.

You get quite a while to shake so I've no idea how many I need to try and get.

[turbid notch]

Thats why you have the "PENDULUM" option in the training part.

Someone post the amount you need for some digimons, here.

[round idol]

Actually, the plural of Digimon is Pokémon.

[turbid notch]

Shut up, bot.

[harsh compass]

Yeah I was able to get upwards of 60 🤣 just want to know what the aim is. Like, 10-30 odd or we going for like 100

[turbid notch]

nono, depends on the Digimon's actittude: Indoor, active, etc.

But i think the maximun is 13, i think.

Let me check...

Yep, active was 13 for Mega Hit.

[harsh compass]

Ok thanks so much 🤣 I'll happily try the training 13 times to find the right one but 100 was a bit much 🤣

[turbid notch]

remember there is a Tera Hit and Mega Hit.

Every digimon has the 2 of them

Check the guide :p

[harsh compass]

I had a look through the guide but couldn't find anything so thanks so much for getting back to me 🤘

I love finding the right shake count I just couldn't find the rough number I was aiming for 🙂 Just got the Mega for my rookie on the training 😎

[stray roost]

Also, you can press the bottom button to stop the counter, so if you hit the desired number you can end the count instead of standing still for a few seconds

[eager harbor]

@stray roost has leveled up! (12 ➜ 13)

[harsh compass]

Epic thanks! Loving this mod so far

[wanton creek]

Additional Note! All conditions for discovering the issue:

VH enters ADV stage advancement mode and is placed on the auto-swinging machine, allowing it to automatically swing.

At this point, VH sounds an enemy warning, but does not stop the auto-swinging machine, causing the bracelet to jump directly to the date setting screen.

I tried both the "Ver Real Digital Monster" and "Ver Digital Monster" versions, and the same issue occurred.

The DIM used was the official "Medarot," not a custom DIM.

The Digimon used were "Greymon" and "Garuru Metal."

[dim magnet]

I think that's a known issue

[wanton creek]

Oh, I see. This DIM only has 13 Digimon, less than 17.

Thanks for clearing up the confusion. I reported the problem on behalf of the person who found it. I didn't notice the lack of quantity myself.

[verbal stone]

Finaly got my VH... Amazon have a discount for us in Brazil(you know the drama)... But i think i'll get mine in about 2 weeks

[sinful obsidian]

was hoping a original vb version would be available but i might have to get a 4th device to try it ha

[verbal stone]

Yeah, i have 4 VB.
At least a VH is not that expensive to get

[sinful obsidian]

very true, batman one looks sick but ya no, blue it is

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@sinful obsidian has evolved into Baby I!

[fiery vale]

I also fear it wouldn't work on a Batman VH, so blue it must be.

[broken mountain]

anyone have problems to detect VH Arena to VB Arena?
I have pendulum Digivice ver

[dim magnet]

You need to choose Vital Hero in VB Arena. It does not allow transferring from a VH when you select Vital bracelet

[silk sequoia]

If you transfer your digimon to the App, does it loose all the stats it has earned while training when you transfer it back to the VH?

[dim magnet]

No, it's retained

[trim pivot]

Later today, A soft update of Digimon Link Pendulum will be released. It will address the Power Trophies being lost after evolution and also update various other aspects to strengthen the overall experience. Ver.1 Will also be given it's final send off update.
To go with all this, two brand new features to Digimon Link will included. Find out what these new features are later today

[hasty current]

Do the Pendulum updates automatically apply to the Digivice mode, when applicable?

[hollow drum]

I assume this will require another downgrade via the installation DIM backup, yeah?

[trim pivot]

Yes, you will need to downgrade restore before installing the update

[cobalt lagoon]

The OP post mentions the untethered status as if it were still there, but this slide in the video says otherwise, is the status still there? If not is it a selectable option like the other modes?

[trim pivot]

Not quit sure what you mean, but if you want to install this update you will need to use the restore file to go back to the stock firmware before installing this new update

[hasty current]

Aahh, I see. So we downgrade back to base VH, then reinstall the mod with the update. This is my first upgrade cycle, so thank you for answering my question. 😄

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #39 - 48)

[trim pivot]

The original post was refferng to the then current Ver. 1 of Digimon Link. Since then there's been a major update ( Pendulum ) Now, the untethered status has been nullified of all it's effects outside of making your Digimon die if left alone for 24 hours. Your Digimon won't lose mood or vitals if the device thinks you're not wearing the watch

[cobalt lagoon]

Oh! The dying part is actually what I cared about most so I'm happy that's still there, thanks for the answer.

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@cobalt lagoon has evolved into Baby I!

[silk sequoia]

Nice!, ty

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @dim magnet (current: #2 - 548)

[trim pivot]

For clarification. Ver. 1 "Legacy" was the original firmware for Digimon Link. released earlier this summer. This will be the last update for the original firmware as we transition full focus to Digimon Link Pendulum.
Digimon Link Pendulum is the latest Ver. of Digimon Link released just a short while ago.
These improvements are responses to slight bugs and feedback after the launch of Digimon Link Pendulum.

Two new features are included with this latest soft update and they will be present in both Ver. 1 and Pendulum editions.

Digimon evolution requirement library And a new Game section, with a Roulette Mini Game. Plus Now there will be a 12 / 24 / No time display toggle

As well as the ability to now raise mood doing reps and pendulum training. Giving another option for freedom in how you would like to raise your Digimon

Hi, I’m Comic Munch, cartoonist and director. I produced, game planned, provided graphics, led this project and contracted Cyanic to implement my Game Expansion Mod into the VH.

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Produced By Comic Munch

Comic Munch: Author, Game Planner, Art Direction: Illustration & Sprites, Video Trailers, Tutorials, User Manual

Cyanic: Technical Lead, Reverse Engineering

Primary Funding: Comic Munch

Dtathemes: Additional Funding support for Ver. 2 Pendulum

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All original game mechanics, logic, UI/UX mockups, manual, text, art and custom visual assets are the
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Technical Implementation & Code © 2026 Cyanic.

The underlying firmware modifications and technical codebase are the property of Cyanic,
utilized here under commission and
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Third-Party IP Digimon and all related characters and trademarks are the property of Bandai Namco
Entertainment. This is a non-profit fan project created for the community.

Thank you to Cyanic for his continual efforts through out this project and consistent quality and to Dtathemes for his support and his inspiration behind the final update to Ver. 1

[quartz valley]

so should i go for the highest ch 3XX number i can find

[dim magnet]

No, that's not how that works. There are specific WCH chips for USB bridge that supports SPI

By "better programmer", I mean a different brand

[quartz valley]

oh okay gotcha

do you have any recommendations? i know the 347 is listed in that message but

[dim magnet]

XGecu T48 if you're going to be modding things a lot. Reasonably fast, quite safe

[quartz valley]

i see, if it's just for this, would i go for the 347 then

idk how much else i plan on modding

also for the sd reader would this work? https://ebay.us/m/iOeIVV

[dim magnet]

You want to make sure it's a short slot

[quartz valley]

i see, are there any you have seen on ebay? or should i just get one on amazon

[dim magnet]

They should exist, you'll just have to check the photos

[quartz valley]

so this big? or shorter

[dim magnet]

Need to be shorter

[quartz valley]

this?

[dim magnet]

Should be OK, but you'll need to solder the headers on

[quartz valley]

okay i see

may have found

[dim magnet]

That seems to still be long

[quartz valley]

drat

[dim magnet]

The main thing to look for is an opening over the insertion detection mechanism

If you see what looks like a spring cutout in the shield, it's probably long because it has the space to fit a push-push mechanism, while short slots are usually push-pull

[quartz valley]

this?

[dim magnet]

Yes

[quartz valley]

so like this?

[dim magnet]

Probably

[quartz valley]

purchased the things

i can die happy

[frank parcel]

Hey dude, sorry I was offline and didn't check your message until now. And yes, this is the one I bought which came pre-soldered and ready to use: https://www.ebay.com/itm/306022328414

[stray roost]

I'm having some issues restoring the VH. I'm using the correct Bin, and its installed on the Dim correctly, but the restore gets to 49% consistently then fails.

[hollow drum]

Does the new version still require DIMs to have all slots filled for Adv Mode to work properly?

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@hollow drum has evolved into Child!

[dim magnet]

No

[hollow drum]

Nice!

[dim magnet]

If you are using a backup from file, try rewriting the Dim with verification. If it verifies, then you probably had a bad read from the backup Dim.

[brisk mortar]

LETS GO!!!!

[hasty current]

Unsure if this is user error or not. Updated the new Training Gear, digivice mode. A+B doesn't seem to be changing the training types.

Oh I got it. User error.

[dim magnet]

It's now press and release instead of hold

[broken mountain]

you able to fix this? I'm having the same problem: it gets to 49% and then fails.

[stray roost]

Nah, I ended up giving up and cracking open a new VH instead, saved the other one for parts

Tried different Dims, different back up files etc

[fluid owl]

how do you do with verification?

[dim magnet]

It's an option in your programmer software

[fluid owl]

i don't see that in mr. blinky's tool

[dim magnet]

Can't help you with that. It's a "dummy's UI" to keep things simple. That said it probably verifies after write if it was properly designed, but I have not checked.

[fluid owl]

that sucks. i can't update then. like the other two, it goes to 49% and crashes

[dim magnet]

Did you write over the card with something else?

[fluid owl]

Not this vs dim

just tried putting the VH og firmware back on it but no luck

[dim magnet]

So did you keep the card in the same state after you installed?

[hasty current]

Could it be a contact issue with your hardware? Is your SD reader in good shape?

[fluid owl]

you know what, i forogt to reset they VH before trying the update and put the update on the dim....so i think i just screwed myself since that VH.bin is from the original time i tried the mod

ooor i just have 3 black vs dims and used the wrong one

thanks @dim magnet

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @dim magnet (current: #2 - 550)

[fluid owl]

im good now

[dusky birch]

I was just gonna say if you could slightly darker backgrounds on the real bright ones or the time of day ones ^^

Anyways i get it don't worry, as ive said this is a gift even if it didn't updates I still love it

[inland girder]

@trim pivot @dim magnet Thank you for this final update on the legacy branch. My partner & I appreciate having a stable endpoint to enjoy your work on. Best of luck with Digimon Link Pendulum going forward!

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @dim magnet (current: #2 - 551)

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #38 - 49)

[zenith basin]

Is there a link to download the Digimon Link update? Not sure I’m seeing it

[zenith basin]

Thank you!

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @dim magnet (current: #2 - 552)

[tiny ridge]

just wan to say thank u comic munch and cynic!u make what i always dream in bracelet.thanks again for so much effort and love put in this project ❤️

[mossy tundra]

question, i have my BIN restored in order to downgrade ( necessary to upgrade to latest version)

how can i do it?

if i insert the dim it just says error and expulse

i am in the main menu, i restored the backup i got when i upgraded first time, to the dim in order to downgrade

and when i insert it it says dim: fail and expulse

am i cooked?

[hasty current]

You guys really nailed the "Tamagotchi difficulty" of the roulette game. It's lots of fun and nice to have a low key game.

[fiery vale]

At least it says it does in the ui.

[fluid owl]

I'm not sure I understand power trophies. I thought it was every 3 trophies while training get you one power trophy

[trim pivot]

I'm sorry to hear about the couple of cases with the restore stopping at 49% and your instant reject.
Very odd, I just spent the last hour installing and restoring the firmware after storing the restore on a computer, Writing over the DIM with another BIN and then writing the restore back unto a DIM again and I haven't run into any problems with 49% or instant rejection unfortunately.
Something else could be wrong but here are some subtle troubleshooting.

Make sure the battery is full when doing an install or restore
Try another DIM
When you successfully install the Digimon Link Firmware do not use that same card to install another firmware as that will write over the restore file needed
After installing either put the card away and mark it or instantly back it up on a computer.

[trim pivot]

You get either 1 or 2 Power trophies every successful training.
In Ver. 1 ( legacy ) every 3 of those trophies = +20%DP +1AP
In Pendulum it's every 10 of those trophies = +50%DP +1 AP
They stack as you accumulate more.

[fluid owl]

10...that makes so much more sense.

Also do power trophies reset at midnight with the digivice?

[trim pivot]

Nope, Your Digimon keeps their Power Trophies during the Digivice evolution reset now

[fluid owl]

Awesome!

[turbid notch]

hahaaaaaaaiforgot to bring my "thing" to do the "thing" to upgrade xD

DAaaaamn, will have to wait till tomorrow now DX

[quartz valley]

silly question as i'll be doing it with my purchased parts anyhow, but if i have a microsd to sd adapter would it work the same as the usb programmer? or would the programmer be what lets this woro

work*

[turbid notch]

You mean this thing?

[quartz valley]

pretty much

diff brand but yes

[vast trout]

still curious about power trophy atrophy

[quartz valley]

nvm just tried plugging dim into it, too short

[turbid notch]

Yes, it is. I have the same. I use a cutter to trim it :p

Its not pretty, but it does the job.

[quartz valley]

so the programmer is just an adapter then? you could just do it this way?

that's neat, i'ma still do it with the programmer but if i ever feel like doing that way i guess i'll try

[trim pivot]

Power Trophies now permanently stay post evolution and in Digivice Ver. Post mid night De Evolution. Once you earn Power Trophies they are there to stay

[vast trout]

Ah, gotcha

gotta be real wary of steamrolling on-device battles now (unless something like vb helper comes with a trophy culling item or something)

[dim magnet]

If you're using a different programming software, make sure it's erasing the card before it's writing.

[dim magnet]

A Dim isn't an SD card. It just uses the same connector

[fluid owl]

So I digimon started off at 5, I just got 23 trophies from running and it hasn't increased

Unless I'm not doing something right. I just did the training running

[burnt haven]

https://ko-fi.com/s/7ca045ff98 hey so the dim reader says it won't ship to the US is there another person who sells them and any recommendations for vital hero replacement bands? Wanna set up this mod soon

[eager harbor]

@burnt haven has leveled up! (9 ➜ 10)

[mossy tundra]

I think I messed my backup. Is there any solution or am I cooked?

Thank you in advance

I’m in previous version digivice , I guess I’m trapped in that one

[trim pivot]

I see your confusion now, The Dumbbell represents your current power trophies, it's not an indicator / counter of how many +20%DP +1AP advantages you have.
In Pendulum you can do three different types of reps.

Evolution Reps only for evolution requirements - Which is what you're probably currently doing

Power Reps - The Dumbbell which gives your Digimon an advantage every 10 accumulated

Vital Reps - only raises vitals by 30 and increases mood a little ( All Reps do this )

To toggle between the three tap A+B on the training selection screen.

[fluid owl]

Oooooooh

[cobalt gust]

Sounds like your going to be ripped soon lol

[trim pivot]

Ya, if you don't save the restore on PC and/or write over the original DIM by accident you won't be able to change your current firmware. Sorry about that, Sucks if a mistakes happens and you get locked out 🙁 The process is for system sustainability and stabilization , happened to me once too when Beta testing Ver. 1

[mossy tundra]

It’s ok no worrries

I saved my restore on pc

Is just it’s not working when I plug it in back

It might not have been saved correctly

I don’t know if there is a way I can check my restore is good

When I insert it just says expulse dim and that’s it

[trim pivot]

You wouldn't happened to have two VH with Digimon Link on them?

[mossy tundra]

Yes

[trim pivot]

Ahh, Maybe try using it on the other VH with Digimon Link as the restore is device ID sensitive

[mossy tundra]

I’ll try

I have both backup saved and named differently

Is the same for both Vh

And I have one separate backup for each one

Neither of them is working

It says fail and expulse icon

Can you guys check if my backups are correct if I send them to you?

[cobalt gust]

have you tried the other backup on the other VH incase you have them muddled up?

[mossy tundra]

Yes

Just in case

Both backups in both devices

In case I messed the names up

[mossy tundra]

In case you guys can help I can send both backup

To verify if they are correct

[trim pivot]

I'm not positive if that's something that can be checked, Might have to rely on more troubleshooting for now.

What's odd though is that usually when you place the wrong restore in a VH it let's the device start the restore process and then it says wrong restore or VB mismatch. It doesn't just fail upon plugging in. Very odd,
I have a few troubleshooting ideas.

1. Turn off your device and back on and try it again ( you might have already done this )

2. Can you backup one of your Digimon DIMS to the computer and then load it into both of the VS DIMs and test each to see if they work? If your Digimon loads correctly unto your device from the VS DIM, that will test whether it's the actual DIM itself causing the problem.

[mossy tundra]

Hi! I tested both already

And the dim is working perfectly

I just sent 2 Digimon to both vh

So the only thing I can come up with is my backups somehow didn’t saved properly?

I have them both and labeled correctly

If it’s possible to check

[slender elm]

If there isn't any fingerprinting of the backups you could potentially get a hash of your file and compare it to someone's good hash

Yet to get around to doing my VH as of yet. Got the tools together but haven't had the time as of now

[trim pivot]

Ya, time really does slip by fast these days. I can understand that, Have a fun time when you do flash Digimon Link 🔥

[trim pivot]

I shot you a DM

[burnt haven]

Wait if I trim a micro sd card reader it can work instead of getting a programmer?

[turbid notch]

NOT AT ALL!

You still need the programmer.

But if you dont have or can't get the SD thing that read the DiMs, you can use the SD Reader and use a micro SD to SD to do so.

....something like that....

[burnt haven]

Dammm 😔 im so lazy about trying to make a programmer and the guy who makes the prebuilt ones stops shipping to the U.S. but I suck at making things like this. Hopefully someone will sell some here 😭 ill probably just wait for now

[turbid notch]

Digimon isn't for lazy people :3

[quartz valley]

if you'd like i can send you a ss of what i got on ebay? i live in the us too and this is all solder free stuff

i spent like 30

[trim pivot]

Appreciate it Ray 💪

[zenith otter]

I got everything off aliexpress for like 7 bucks shipped to the us

Just waiting on my VH to get here

[cyan geyser]

You all added the step counter on the date menu! Thank you!

(And for all the other awesome features, of course 😄 )

[trim pivot]

I think Bentacles was more insinuating that putting the programmer together is outside their current comfort level, not from an actual lack of effort or not being able to find the parts. And that’s totally fine, while plenty here have vouched for how easy it is, not everyone wants to try. That’s A OK. And if anyone does feel uneasy but wants to take the plunge anyways, we’ll all be here to help

[burnt haven]

Yea that'd be helpful!

[cyan geyser]

Is power training supposed to be activated the same way? Pressing both buttons in the reps menu? It doesn't seem to want to switch from "Evo"

(still a in-training if that matters)

[dim magnet]

Press and release, not hold

[cyan geyser]

Ah, that did it Thanks!

[neon harness]

Hi there 👋🏾 I’m from England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 in the UK and been really wanting to give this mod a go for a while now but haven’t had time to get to it 😅

Can someone please help me answer a few questions as I’m not highly technical:

1. Do I only need to install the Pendulum package as it is the most updated? Or still need previous version?

2. Do I buy this banjo pre assembled programmer:

https://ko-fi.com/s/8627dd37e4

It says I need CH347 on the instructions but this is CH341A.

Can someone please send me a link to buy the correct one from? Maybe in the UK if there’s any link?

3. Do I just need a DiM programmer as above and Mr Blinky tool website or anything else?

Thank you! 🙂 Sorry for all the questions

[vast trout]

Yo, fellow Brit here, here's the downlow...

1. First off, any package is good from stock, although if you want to switch versions or downgrade, you'll have to restore a backup from after you install the mod

2. If you'd like, it's what I went with and it's served me well for a few years - can't recall much of anything about how shipping went or costed though, but it ain't all too expensive in itself

3. A programmer like this and Blinky's DIMcard Tool's the bare minimum, although it wouldn't hurt to pick up a DIM Modifier or DIMNameGen tool along the way, as you can still edit DIMs with all that

[neon harness]

Heyy thanks so much for answering!

Back up after install - Got it.

Will get that programmer then.

And editing DiM cards? 😮 I might look into that but I’ll do the bare minimum for now.

If I get stuck I’ll pop back for help or show you guys when I’ve done it!

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @vast trout (current: #111 - 15)

[vast trout]

During installation, whatever card you use to install the card'll backup that specific VH's firmware

Essentially by using that card again, you can uninstall the mod and change the firmware back to stock (although it's still worth backing up said new backuo card to a file, just in case)

[neon harness]

Thank you for the advice, whether I use VS memory or any DiM card as long as I back up first, I’ll have the original stuff back 🙂

[brisk mortar]

You need the short micro SD card reader

This

[quartz valley]

sorry, old screenshot

here's with that sd reader

@burnt haven

[somber mist]

I feel so dumb, how do I clean the poop

[vast trout]

Hold A on the home screen

[somber mist]

Thank youuu 😭

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @vast trout (current: #106 - 16)

[quartz valley]

so for what i should be expecting on the vh after modding, on the digivice version that's more of a 24 hour end of day devolution thing, what are the other two modes like?

[pliant tartan]

Hi guys, just recently have a VH bracelet me and my son and we got really hang of it and now we are more excited of this mod and we would like to play the mod i was wondering if how can i connect a dim cards to my laptop my i know a device that can connect a dim card to lop top so i can mod our VH?

[turbid notch]

There is a page that explain ALL this in the manual/guide that is in the mod file.

[lunar lantern]

what is DIMNameGen?

[crude reef]

It's a program that creates the name images to use for when your modifying Dims. You type in the name of the digimon, hit generate and it makes the image file to import into the dim.

[lunar lantern]

ohh thats useful, and could i use the font included in the Digimon Link mod?

[crude reef]

I'm not sure, there's a choice of fonts but I can't remember them. I just use the default one it loads

[trim pivot]

After modding the VH to a Digimon Link, you can expect more interactivity between you and your Digimon, along with more added fun, especially on the newest Pendulum Ver. where, your Digimon will call out to you with events, you’ll get encounters during ADV mode, and you’ll need to manage their happiness level with 2-hour step requirements, Feeding and pooping is an option etc.

Digivice Ver., as mentioned, will revert to the Child stage every midnight. You can also reduce the evolution timer to just 1 minute at will, and on the Pendulum Ver. care penalties don’t count.

Digivice Ver. is like an easy mode, with no care penalties in Pendulum Ver. but it also works as a great companion for exercise challenges if you aim to evolve to Mega/Ultimate in a single day.

Digital Monster is the standard way to play, most reminiscent of the natural VB play style but with the added features of Digimon Link

Real Digital Monster is the hard mode of all the versions. It plays like Digital Monster, but Digimon have a chance of dying past age 20, step requirements are higher, and ADV stage bosses are slightly stronger than they are in Digital Monster and Digivice Ver.

[trim pivot]

Happy to hear you and your son are excited for Digimon Link 🔥 You said you can connect a DIM to a computer so you may not need anything, but if it's not the right thing you'll need a DIM programmer which, as mentioned above is detailed in the manual that you can find in the Digimon Link Pendulum 1.1 Download packet in the pins. It's tell you the parts you'll need and basic setup. Have any more questions give us a shout

[somber mist]

silly question, does it work on the batman vital hero?

rip nvm shoulda searched before i asked

do yall think it would be possible to take a backup firmware from another VH and install it onto the batman version? (dumb but worth asking question lol)

[dim magnet]

No. The firmware backup is sparse, so any of the other differences between VH Digimon and VH Batman will not be restored

That's one of the reasons why backups cannot be shared between different devices and mod versions. Only the bits that have been modified are backed up, and every version modifies a slightly different set of data. Lots of overlap, but not completely identical.

[somber mist]

Gotcha

Gonna have to buy another red or blue now ughhh

[frank shard]

pardon my ignorance but is there possibly a list of the digimon available with this mod? sorry if its a rookie question and my sincerest apologies if it has been repeated elsewhere

im rather new to the vital bracelets in general

[dim magnet]

Mons are supplied on Dims, so whatever's on the Dim is what you'll have available

[frank shard]

sick, so, i suppose, for any non-traditional digimon that isnt available on a retail dim, you would mod them in?

[dim magnet]

That's Dim modding, and not directly related to this mod

[frank shard]

or more specifically, you would mod the dim with mr blinky's tool

oh okay sick

[dim magnet]

There's info in pins of #modding_vpets

[frank shard]

much appreciated

[trim pivot]

With DIM modding, you can put any Digimon, or really anything you can imagine, onto a custom DIM and play it on any VB, including VHs with this Digimon Link mod. People have evem made Tamagotchi, Godzilla, TMNT, and DBZ custom DIMs.

A graphics pool with DIM modding resources, tutorials and a visual guide are included within the Digimon Link Pendulum download packet in the PINS, DIM modding is the exact same process used to install Digimon Link and is optionally needed to get the full experience of Digimon Link, as it allows you to add the custom egg hatching sprites, splash pages and custom Digimon name scrolls for custom DIMs ect that are provided in the graphics pool.

[pastel beacon]

Not in the one I published but I did modify it to use that font when the first version of the mod released. I can upload the python version quickly, remaking a Java version would take a while longer.

[somber mist]

Okay so

How does the pendulum function work

I always miss on the bit before battles

[dim magnet]

Read the manual

There's pendulum training and pendulum in battles

[hasty current]

Their personalities determine 2 stats that can give two different specials when you hit it exactly

Another user did the science and figured out the numbers. I'll post them bellow behind a spoiler warning. Not my own work.

Personality (1) (STOIC)
||- Shake 15 times + big move

• Shake 17 times + 4HP+2DP||

Personality (2) (ACTIVE)
||- Shake 10 times + big move

• Shake 13 times + 4HP+2DP||

Personality (3) (NORMAL)
||- Shake 5 times + big move

• Shake 8 times + 4HP + 2DP||

PERSONALITY (4) (INDOOR)
||- Shake 3 times + big move

• Shake 4 times + 4HP+2DP||

PERSONALITY (5) (LAZY)
||- Shake 1 time + big move

• Shake 2 times + 4HP + 2DP||

Stoic most. Lazy least. Use the pendulum mode in training to find the spots if you don't want to look

[somber mist]

Gotcha

Also I would look at the manual but I'm at work and I can't really download and extract a zip on my phone rn

There's also no like... Repository of info outside of the manual that I've been able to find. Having documentation of the features available online somewhere would be amazing

[zenith otter]

how many mons are we able to store in the pendulum mod?

[pastel beacon]

VH only has two Digimon slots. So a main and a backup.

[zenith otter]

thanks!

[gray coral]

Bazjo doesnt ship to the US anymore, does anyone else make and sell DIM Programmers?

[dim magnet]

Make it yourself

[gray coral]

I knew someone would say that...1000% a noob here

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@gray coral has evolved into Baby I!

[gray coral]

is it easy to do??

[dim magnet]

Yes

[gray coral]

[cyan geyser]

I've broken a few VBs attempting simple mods so I was a little intimidated about making the programmer but it really is pretty straightforward.

With the right parts, it's just pushing wires onto labeled pegs. No soldering or anything

[quartz valley]

#1369345299587268809 message

what i got for around the same price as the listing

(if you live in the us)

[zenith otter]

Will this still work? 😅 I ordered it really long by mistake

[eager harbor]

@zenith otter has leveled up! (2 ➜ 3)

SHINKA!

@zenith otter has evolved into Baby II!

[dim magnet]

If you are using CH347, you might need to reduce speed in your programmer software, but otherwise yes

[pastel beacon]

My Digimon has a training request bubble. Dumbbell icon. I've tried both evo and stat training but the request bubble is still there. Do I just need to keep doing it until it goes away or am I doing the wrong training?

[zenith otter]

Yeah that's the one I bought, is that easily done in the program?

[dim magnet]

It just lets you know that you get a bonus for training while it's showing. It'll disappear after a while

[dim magnet]

Try it first, you may or may not need to do anything special

IIRC it's more of a problem when it comes to chip clips than those breakout boards

[zenith otter]

Olay I'll try it

Sadly I gotta Solder the sd reader since i was not able to get the one soldered but that should be easy

[pastel beacon]

Ooooh, that's explains it. It did go away after 5 trainings and the fifth training didn't reward me as much so that must have been about when it ran out.

[gray coral]

@quartz valley hmmm I'll ebay the items and post my findings. Thank you ^_^

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @cyan geyser (current: #396 - 3)

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @quartz valley (current: #134 - 12)

[quartz valley]

i got you

[gray coral]

Dupont Wire Jumper Cable Arduino Breadboard which one do I need? MM, MF or FF

[eager harbor]

@gray coral has leveled up! (6 ➜ 7)

[quartz valley]

ff, it's two metal lines being connected by two female ends

https://youtu.be/7uS9WG9ep44?feature=shared

[gray coral]

these?

[frank shard]

thank you thank you

[round idol]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @trim pivot (current: #36 - 50)

[eager harbor]

SHINKA!

@frank shard has evolved into Baby I!

[frank shard]

you guys seem very passionate about this project which is always great to see

[quartz valley]

should work perfect @gray coral

[zenith otter]

i am having issues intalling the drivers

[dim magnet]

Is this CH341 or CH347

[zenith otter]

347

[dim magnet]

Actually this one https://www.wch.cn/downloads/CH341PAR_EXE.html

[zenith otter]

Got it working but now says invalid or no dim card

[dim magnet]

Use a regular programmer software, not Mr. Blinky's tool

[zenith otter]

oh

[burnt haven]

https://a.co/d/isgm0cZ
https://a.co/d/aZV3JUe
https://a.co/d/28mHEtS
Can someone tell me if these items are correct for building a programmer

[zenith otter]

which one could be

sorry this is entirely new for me lol

[dim magnet]

As usual, avoid the CH341

[dim magnet]

Probably this http://www.yaojiedianzi.com/index.php?m=Download&a=show&id=21

[zenith otter]

olkay checking

[burnt haven]

Is it alright to use the ch341? Trying to see if I can get the parts in while I visit my bf so we could build it together and mod our vital braclets but the ch347 would take longer to get there

[dim magnet]

You should not

If you really insist on it you could, but there's a reason it's not recommended

[burnt haven]

Why isnt it recommended?

[dim magnet]

#modding_vpets message

[zenith otter]

i cant understand a single thing on this hahaha

[dim magnet]

Basically means it is out of spec and not as electrically safe as other options

Oh, you're talking about the website

There's a download button, did you download?

It may start up in Chinese, but there's a menu item that says English

[zenith otter]

i got the program already but was entirely on chinese so

i just got AsProgrammer from a previous question

[dim magnet]

Second last menu from the top

[zenith otter]

seems to be the same but in english

[dim magnet]

AsProgrammer is a bit weird. There's a bunch of versions floating around, and I'm never sure which one is actually compatible

[zenith otter]

oh

lol

so wait

this is what i got

[dim magnet]

Interesting, the screenshot on the website says second from end. Here it's third from end

It's the menu that says 语言

[burnt haven]

I see so it'll probably break on me after awhile? Ill probably still get it since its cheaper and if it breaks ill just buy the better one later down the line

[dim magnet]

It's not so much breaking itself as pushing other stuff out of spec. There's really no sense buying one in the first place when the CH347 costs about the same

[zenith otter]

this is english 😂

this is fun haha

how do i even know if my thing is working

[dim magnet]

Uhhhh try restarting the program

[zenith otter]

did already same result

[dim magnet]

Did they seriously not translate this... The software for the other programmer I bought from them was translated (even if not perfectly)

[zenith otter]

lol

[dim magnet]

Let me see if I can figure out the language file

[zenith otter]

this tranlation looks like tagalog?

no nvm just noticed that they are weird characters

do you know if there is a way i can test the sd reader? i had to solder it myself but I am no expert so I am kinda not sure if it is working

[dim magnet]

You need to actually have it read something

[zenith otter]

sadly i gave my sd card to someone so the only thing I have are the dims

Surely not an expert but seems CND is missing some solder, what do you think?

[dim magnet]

Actually I wonder if your language issue is related to the weird path that the programmer software extracts to by default

[eager harbor]

@dim magnet has leveled up! (69 ➜ 70)

[dim magnet]

Can you rename the folder it extracted to something else that doesn't have weird characters in it?

[zenith otter]

sure

it was that for sure

english

acquired!

[dim magnet]

You need to hold your iron for longer on the ground pad. Other than that, maybe a bit to much solder on most joints but they'll probably work

[zenith otter]

so i clicked on read and shows this, meaning all is good no?

[dim magnet]

Did you put a card in?

[zenith otter]

yeah

vs

[dim magnet]

Also, you didn't select the card type, so that's probably not right

[zenith otter]

oh

[dim magnet]

Try to detect, then it should give you a list to select from

[zenith otter]

no card in, weird characters after selecting detect

[dim magnet]

Well I don't think it worked

Try selecting manually, but even with the wrong chip you should see non-empty if your Dim is actually communicating

The chip is Macronix MX25L3233F

If you don't have 33F in the list, you can also use 35F

[zenith otter]

I don't even see Macronix in the list

[dim magnet]

Manufacturer list

[zenith otter]

Yeah

[dim magnet]

They list it as MXIC

[zenith otter]

okay got it

Now to try and enter the card and see if it works?

[dim magnet]

Do a read

[zenith otter]

Same as before, so surely I have something wrong here

[dim magnet]

I would recommend touching up your ground joint

[zenith otter]

Yeah that's what I was thinking

[dim magnet]

Also make sure that the Dim is inserted contact side down

[zenith otter]

I see something!

[dim magnet]

Looks reasonable

[zenith otter]

Okay so now standard process but here instead of the other app?

[dim magnet]

Yeah

[zenith otter]

So steps should be Erase > Open > Select Version > Write > ?

[dim magnet]

Select the file first, then you can probably just hit auto

Make sure to backup whatever was on the Dim first

[zenith otter]

Yeah I did already

So close

[dim magnet]

Was there erase in the log? There should be

[zenith otter]

Nothing came up

[dim magnet]

OK, if there wasn't erase, then hit erase, then auto

[zenith otter]

Same result

[dim magnet]

OK, so maybe it's running too quickly

[zenith otter]

Ohhh what you said earlier

Btw I really appreciate all the help

[dim magnet]

Now this is a bit of an issue, because that programming software doesn't seem to have an option to adjust the speed

[zenith otter]

lol

Talk about tough luck

[dim magnet]

This one looks like it can select speed https://github.com/therealdreg/asprogrammer-dregmod

[zenith otter]

That is the other one I had downloaded

[dim magnet]

OK, try that

Usually I'd stick with the official software, but if it doesn't work with your particular setup, you can only try something different

[zenith otter]

I am not sure how to make this one write

Nvm

Found it

Got it!

Waiting on bracelet now

[sinful obsidian]

amazing work on the manual/research notes to

[sinful obsidian]

Not sure if they made a mistake but i bought a vital hero from amazon 15$ and they sent me 2 in a pack, incase anyone wants to try it.

[frank shard]

do the ch341 and ch347 programmers use the same drivers?

just out of curiosity

[dim magnet]

Yes when in parallel mode

[frank shard]

because i already own a ch341 programmer but since it was recommended im currently looking for the ch347

[frank shard]

if you could enlighten me, what is parallel mode?

[dim magnet]

It's the mode that is not UART

[quartz valley]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-deltarune-chapter-4-saul-goodman-better-call-saul-weird-route-gif-16131821437766063885

[hollow drum]

Are the random fights in Adv Mode triggered by something, or is it random chance? They seem to be going off like every 2 minutes which seems a smidge excessive

[hot yarrow]

Does this update address losing trophies and battle records if you're Digimon de digivolves

[hot yarrow]

I'm getting an not original rom error

[trim pivot]

Time range based, I don't want to "break the magic" and give specific times but it's longer than 2 minutes. About the time someone can expect 1 encounter in a 500 step ADV mission at regular walking speed.

[trim pivot]

Yes the Pendulum 1.1 update addresses losing Power Trophies post evolution on all Ver.
Battle records revert on evolution as they do in the stock firmware because evolution requirements depend on them.
For the Original Rom Error, Did you revert your Digimon Link back to being a Vital Hero using the restore file before trying to install the update?

[hot yarrow]

I did not restore back to original

Trying it now

[trim pivot]

You will have to do that in order to install the update.

[hot yarrow]

I use the legacy firmware?

To restore?

[stray roost]

When you first modded your VH, the DIM you used saved a backup of the original firmware before it patched the VH. You then needed to save that backup on your computer for future use so that you can restore your VH back to its original firmware for any updates etc.

So you need to find that backup, put it on a DIM, then use it to restore your VH. Then, you can put the newer VL firmware on the DIM and patch your VH like you originally did, albeit with the newer firmware

[hot yarrow]

Yeah I backed it up and tried it but it still didn't like it

I used my original backup