#VB Helper - Replacement app for VB Arena
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also don't forget to import secrets and the dim cards you will use
you can also get them by completing special missions in the VB
Is there an easy guide to import? I have no history with the old app
in the settings of the app, you get two options
- import secrets, you have to choose an APK of VB Arena (original app)
- import cards, this allows you to import dim/bem in the form of .bin files, you want to dump your cards before doing so
Are secrets just the locked digimon on DIMs?
And since Im dumping my own bins, does that mean my custom sprites will show in the app? Thats a nice feature if so
secrets is a key the VB uses to send and receive characters, it is inside the old VB app
it supports customs, yes
and the sprites will show up
also the evolution lines and evolution guides
plus a working dex and you can also transfer across your adventure mission status
Thats fire
Do I have to be specific about using different base dims/bems? If I use dynasty of evil as my base twice will it overwrite whats shown in the app?
it doesn't matter which dim you use
and as for duplicate IDs, the app will ask you from which dim the character is coming from
and then it will remember for the next time
Oh perfect, ez
What to do when the apps say whoop?
Whoops it means an error
During a typical transfer you will see the following in this order
- success sending card
- whoops
When you see the whoops, separate the watch from the phone and wait until the watch says touch! Again
When it says touch, connect again
If I attempt to send a digimon before I import the DIM to the app, will the mon essentially get deleted. Im early enough it ok if yes but I think thats what just happened
Got him back on my watch, but he de-leveled
Yeah
Will the online bin file work?
No stress, Ill get back to pulsemon then Ill switch to customs tn.
Adventures within the app are what gives special items, right? Or adventures in app AND in watch?
Online bin?
Download from gdrive?
That I cannot tell you since it's essentially piracy, I don't want to risk bandai getting legal issues with the project
(You can try, but in that case you are on your own, sorry)
Yeah, those are guaranteed to work
Alright, thank you so much sir
Omg I have not been doing this and just been ramming my watch against my phone when it says whoops until it works LOL
Also glad to see you are almost done with your work stuff! Excited for when you make the new update : ) hope you're doing well and been loving the app in its current stage !
I'm doing this
works fine on vb arena but on vb helper, after touching it the second time, the watch just says Waiting... and times out
nevermind I think I just missed the dim insert screen, will try when I have my dim on hand
yeah it still says whoops even doing the right process...
okay so i suspected the special missions item caused something to break, so i spawned a new in-training from an egg, edited the app data in an sqlite editor and transferred all the information from the previous digimon into the new one, and that worked to transfer it back đ
hey can anyone help with installing this? im super lost
What do you mean?
Okay I'm having a weird annoying issue. I had a Coronamon on my VBBE, had transferred him over from another BE no problem. I needed to use an item on him so I transferred him to the app and used the 60 minute full training item no problem, but now when I transfer him back the app just says "Whoops!" and does nothing.
This happens occasionally and I cannot for the life of me figure out why
Ubnforunately doing a re-install doesnt help either
Same here. I installed the VB Helper apk imported the vital arena 2.1.0 apk and the DiM card im using (impulse city) but cant connect the app to my VH
Dont know what else i have to do
When i try to scan my VH to the app it just start a random encounter
you have to start the connection from the VB
what do you mean it starts a battle
you go to the connect screen and then when it says touch, you touch, then you lift the phone from the watch
wait until the watch says touch again
and when the watch says touch, you then touch it again
That was a dumb mistake from me sry đ
Nah lol, don't worry
And I just finished another contract, in 2 days I'll finish another and I'll be back onto this
I can see already the end
fire
hey all, coming to this super late, it seems. is there a public release yet?
theres been several
okay, how does one install this? it looks like i need external data, like digimon sprites?
yes! for proper usage of the app you will at this time.
and im also supposed to rip data from my Dim/ Bememories, VBM cards?
that is required
how am i supposed to do that?
check the pins in #modding_vpets
Just be aware that if you save your Digimon they will be deleted come next update until the update comes where data isn't deleted each update.
So best not to import all your Digimon now
thats not even a concern yet, i dont understand how to even download a functioning version of the app
i get that i cant ask for Dim card data here. but i have no clue how im supposed to put together a tool to rip the cards myself
It's a DIM programmer stick that you'll need plus a program called Mr. Blinky's DIM Tool
you'll need a programmer to read the contents of the dim card (either you can do this by directly connecting to the chip, or by using a breakout board to connect to it like a microsd card).
example budget programmers being: ch347 or ch341a
i dont know how to do any of that lol
hence the direction towards the modding channel for its resources
which im reading, but dont understand
linking me the same website im reading isint really going to help
i dont know how to do electronics stuff
It's simpler than you imagine. It's connecting wires to labeled pins
Each board has named labels. You connect the wires to each label and you are done
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easier than finding a proxy to import something from someone's ko-fi.
yeah, but the page just links me to aliexpress, how am i supposed to know which one of these i need?
Ya. No programmer from Germany is you live in the US 
The links were cluttering up this thread. I'll just DM you the link to the right parts
the links were cluttering the thread because of all the tracking data you left in
for the later readers, munch chose:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806343976194.html
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806498122535.html
genuinely, thank you
I must hone my linking skills, truly
Yes
great
all cards should be compatible. think as long as they load on the toy, the app will also accept them. meaning even fan-made cards will work, as the app pulls from the uploaded card data and uses whatever is associated with that cards ID based on the NFC data that was transmitted.
seems like i cant send mons back to the vbs anymore, used to work fine with a custom dim, but today imported a bunch more dims and sent a couple mons both from be and og vb and all i get after the checking dims phase is a whoop, but the vbs go from touch to wait and then i have to wait until it fails, today i also tried for the first time to apply a special mission to a mon if it matters
i also have a Character thats stuck in the app ( from Kamen rider Ex-aid VBM, Transfered from BE) no items applied, first Card check scan works, but after the second scan, the BE just says Waiting until it times out
any consideration of doing .json support for the digimon? i imagine it'd be easier to troubleshoot/backup/also import and export or even send 'mons to friends
I'm gonna add a way to export a log file in case of errors
That'll be my number 1 priority
tried some stuff, deleted the dims and characters that had characters stuck, imported again a new backup, started a new character, sent it to the app and then sending it to the vb gives an instant whoops still on the second phase, both if i have to insert the dim or not in the middle, so i dont know what could be the reason here.
Might be an issue with the date or something like that
As in, sometimes the VB can produce weird dates and it messes with the app
i have both bracelets correctly at 2025 10/30 and hour is correct
No I mean, sometimes the VB produces weird dates in the communication, like 0/0/2000
At least my implementation might be reading them wrong
ah i see, is there any way to check that in app currently?
Nope, if you have android studio you can see the entire app database
i have it installed but i dont think i ever ended up using it
did some more testing, deleted all imported dims, imported a custom bem, it sent back and forth well to the vbbe, imported a dim, started a mon from an og vb with heat/cyanic mod, sent it to the app and couldnt send it back to the og vb with mod, sent the first mon from the custom bem vb be to the app and it still sends correctly to the vb be
started a new mon from that second imported dim on the vb be, and i was able to send it back and forth correctly, maybe there is a problem with the og vb
i have a spare stock og vb, never turned it on so i dont even know if it works, will report back
Are you planning on ever releasing this app on the play store? I don't know if there's anything in the app as is that disqualifies it from being put on there, but it would be way easier to download and update if it were available
This could potentially get the devs in legal trouble with Bandai if they do that so unlikely
If Digimon Unlimited eventually being removed from Google Play back in the day despite it being a free app is any indication the general idea is to play it safe and not bother with a Google Play release with stuff like this
i need a google developer license
and i don't think i'll ever get one
feel there's a big difference between encroaching on actual physical devices (even if sprites were mostly unique in newer versions) and, this
though that secrets section is also a big thing too
still eh, dunno if it's worth the 25 quid to test the waters
Would it be possible to add Evolution trees to the Dex, even if they have to be made manually?
i can try
i can make it look like the old app, but gonna be hella difficult for me to make it a graph like hummus
This is completely random and is just a random idea that came out of nowhere, but do u think that theoretically one day that something such as exporting a mon from the storage using a code of some sort to upload to a webgame could be possible/easy to implement?
For example, instead of exporting/transferring with nfc, choosing a mon and it outputs a code to use on another game/app/webpage, etc and then the same thing being done to transfer it back to the storage app.
Or perhaps exporting a digimon as a file instead of a code so it doesnt really rely on some sort of server to interpret the codes between the 2 services for example, so it could be done localside instead of serversided
then u could upload the file to use on something such as a webgame.
I may or may not play a lot of webkinz and wish something like that could be possible with vb/be mons lol
Is there a download link to VB Helper? I can't find it in the pinned messages.
i support this as well, would be much easier to back up mons
backing up mons manually with a file per specific mon would be good for backups overall + it would make it easier if people decide to develop additional games/apps which use the mons from the VB/BE through those files.
The only thing is, afaik they wanted to do some sort of online functionality eventually, so it could cause issues depending on what the online functionality is meant to accomplish. Duplicating mons, sharing files for mons, etc would be kinda eh imo, but depends what they want to do with the app.
Theres already an existing backup method as is (pointless using it atm until stuff is finalized as it wouldnt be compatible with new updates yet), although what I was more so talking about individual mon backups rather than database backup for ur storage.
yeah, I floated the idea of json earlier and I'd love something like that. more extensible format/less fixed, can be made compatible with future updates, also not bound to a database
I just think itd be an amazing way to make it super easy to make additional apps/games which use the VB/BE mons
for anyone who wants to develop them
because instead of figuring out their own seperate transfer method from VBHelper to whatever they make, if VBHelper can do that step for them by individual mon backups with the mons data, it can be easily imported and built into the app/game being made by other developers to expand what the VB/BE bracelets are capable of.
no me convence mucho, por que eso permitiria que muchas personas tuvieran acceso a sprites personalizados y habria menor control y quisieran lucrar con ello y si bandai llegara a enterarse podria causar problemas
y ademas de todas formas para pasar el primer digimon del vb / vb be a la aplicacion necesitaras el nfc
I'd love to see cross-compat with external games/ webapps, but I think that might be for later
Personally, I just want to see the baseline functions pollished, like sending non-BEmemory characters to the BE without getting stuck, or a second pass on the UI ( right now it's really hard to see the card icons unless they're black, and not all are)
I've also realized there arent currently items that raise the stats for BEmemory characters
It'd be nice to have those
Maybe you could have it so the user can set the color for each of these tiles?
That might help with visability
Noted, gonna get back soon to this, first step was to write a tutorial on how to use the app and dim cards, gonna upload that tomorrow to the repository
Also have a todo list for next version pending
Oh for sure. I wasnt expecting it anytime soon, but it would be an amazing addition eventually so other people can perhaps get interested in making other things if they feel like it to widen the scope of what the VB/BE can do in the future.
Can the app be safely updated without deleting all your guys yet?
not yet
Not yet, gonna focus onto that next
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i'm gonna start picking back up all my projects tonight
Hey, is this available for iPhone?
I do not have any android phones or devices with Nearfield communication hardware
it may only be eventually available for iphone under the following conditions:
- apple makes developing software for iphone free in every capacity
- apple enables sideloading globally (for universal usability)
- paypal naca 1 million dollars
- not requiring
an iphoneany apple products
Recently have eased up on which restriction on the App Store
Also, I do not know how difficult is at the program for Apple products
And this was five years ago
This is the only NSC device I have
My only option is to create one
No, ya comentĂł que por que el se necesita una licencia, permiso y ademĂĄs de dispositivos Apple ademĂĄs que la programaciĂłn que se utiliza para iPhone no es la misma no hay posibilidad de sacar la app para iPhone
Hold on I have to translate
OK
I figured as much
Right now, Iâm currently trying to design the device after the conversation
Wouldn't it be easier to buy a used Android phone with NFC?
yes
Not in working condition currently
Currently, I am thinking about switching from Apple to go back to android
But with the new controversy around Google, who owns the android software
They will be lacking down the platform
Sorry for
My kitten started flooding
looking at budget (walmart) (i assume usa) options, select motorola phones may have nfc functionality, and come with a pre-paid cellular plan while under $60, but carrier locked.
alternatively, a good amount of xiaomi phones should have nfc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFC-enabled_mobile_devices page is a little outdated but should be helpful in some cross checking for a phone with nfc
pawn shops too
I will look into the options right now I had to clean up
Dont Worry
You can back up your data via the export data option
Unless that option isn't viable somehow
I always tend to do it after I've sent a Digimon into the app successfully (and they don't jist fly into the aether mid transfer)
There's also still the issue of using items on it causes the Digimon to be untransferable. I don't know if that was mentioned at all
It isn't viable yet, but does allow with some modification to be usable
Ohhhh okay. Thank you for clarifying. This isn't meant as a "when" type of question but how difficult is the modifications for save data then?
And will it potentially be a matter of an in app feature or something like sending the file to you for conversion
Modifications aren't difficult, it's an SQLite database, do if you know your way around Android's RoomDB ORM and SQL, you should be able to persist between versions
I'm trying to have persistence by v0.7
Question is online mode gonna be on the app itself or on a website
It's built into the app
Okay thanks
Do you think this'll ever have connectivity with NacaFarm?
Tbh vital bracelet has different pixel art size + the stats are completely different
So I get why
Gotcha
I just went with GrapheneOS and grabbed an Unlocked Pixel during a sale.
Custom OS are likely gonna be the way to go depending on how google handles the situation.
The App's been unable to send any of my buddies back to the watch entirely now
I guess I'll just wait until the next version
Has anyone tried using an android tablet with an external NFC reader for this?
Thinking about trying it as I have a tablet but no NFC, but if itâs already known to not work, whatâs the point
it will likely not work đ
External NFC readers don't work due to how android handles nfc
It must be permit own system
I'd like to see a push notification system for when characters complete adventures
Better yet, if it doesnt use firebase
Which it may not? Given its not gonna even be on the playstore
Sometimes fcm breaks out of nowhere on my phone lol. But I believe I set up everything in the correct order so that it shouldnt happen anymore.
never quite like how many apps have broken notifications if you happen to have a de-googled device
Never understood how push notifications work. I don't want to use any external services, mostly because I don't want to pay for anything
I'd love to be able to drop a digi on a BE from a VH and vice versa, but I know the coding from a BE is weird and different from the VH.
Obv no BEM digis, but regular vbms and dims, I'm not sure why they're not virtually identical (should've been something bandai did, but they've never cared about preservation)
Its there a way to remove item that we put in digimon at app?special mission
not yet
bc apps relies on it lol
thats good at least lol. fcm is annoying for me as someone who doesnt use google except for apps that require it such as pretty much everything that exists Lol
pretty much all I have is playservices with network perms and nearby devices enabled
network perms needed for notifications :/
An offline battle simulator that helps with win rate or hell even a win rate item reset would be kino. The former could allow you to Battle whatever you have registered as long as its from the same type of DiM, so DiMs can only battle DiMs and BEs battle BEs, but I could have a Monochromon from the Dinosaur Roar DiM battle some shit like Bulucomon from Blizzard Fang and it could count towards its actual win rate
The Lab and Arena app had this of sorts in the form of traininf mode but it didn't count towards win rates iirc
Itd help a lot since even eith mods the DiM Digimon struggle HARD when battling on a VBBE
I don't know if this would be possible to implement but yeah it would be neat if something like this could be implemented
I doubt itd be too difficult outside of doing the battle programming. Lab did this with online when you'd fight other players.
Plus it'd be neat if you could make your characters stored in the app fight each other (Even if just for funsies)
y e s
that would be perfection
I have an issue now where when I try to send a Digimon to my watch, it makes my watch ask for a dim card insertion
Then fails when I plug in the correct dim
It's not difficult to click on the Mon you're working on to see the next evolutions on the VH Helper app - albeit it might take some brain power to make a mental graph - but it's just part of the fun and mystery when working on your characters.
For everyone -
Remember this app and coding is a big task load on @undone charm and they are doing their best to fix current issues and working on trying to get error logging implemented.
@undone charm please don't feel pressured or put down. We know you're doing your best with the resources - and we appreciate you for being such an awesome Dev.
do you have to ping 'em for that
Upon further testing, it appears to be Training Gear problem or my own VH having issues where the DIM reader just fails after a while
It fixes itself when I reboot my VH but it's still a little concerning
try to blow on the inserting part it worked on my part
just like a game cartridge
So I'm a little late to the party; does this app work for custom Dim. Will it show the appropriate evolution tree of a modded DiM or will it show the original DiM that was modified? I'm currently using the OEM app to store my Digimon/get item and wondering if anyone suggest swapping over ASAP or if I should remain on the VB arena app.
It'll read whatever's on the files you upload to em, so any modded Dims will show as such unlike the VB Arena app
dont swap over right now, its still InDev, and your stored characters are liable to be wiped
Quoting this for emphasis (And made sure not to tag)
I haven't switched over yet and probably won't use it until it the VitalWear compatibility update comes out
I'm using it to have fun, but can't wait for it to be able to be locally backed up for true immortality
While I think the projects themselves are better off separate, I do think once functionality is fully locked in with the app, once visual updates are able to be worked on, a Farm esque home screen with your digimon, or even just the active home screen being your digimon and a choice of its backgrounds that come with it's dim, and then an option to toggle between that and it's stats screen, essentially what you would see on the vital bracelet would be a very nice addition imo, and would help it feel more alive
Make the app a place for them to chill while you bring two buddies with you out on walks with the bracelet
Exactly what I think would work
Una pregunta el oppo rrno 13 seria compatible con la app vb helper?
O el xaomi redmi note 24?
Gracias
@whole kestrel has leveled up! (3 â 4)
Incluso con custom roms funciona. Tengo el app corriendo en infinity con Android 16 sin ningĂșn problema
Gracias
The app says battles coming soon, I have a question regarding that, essentially would it be a plausible idea to at some point down the line have leagues, like pokemon go esque, but for this it'd be evolution level leagues, that way people could have their favorites still have a chance of being viable in their respective evolution level tier? Essentially like for level 3's you have the Rookie league, adult level could be Champion League etc.
That would be cool
Idk if their already doing that tho
the battles are separated by stage currently. it's probably the best way to keep the fights balanced. a "free" battle option could be added too to just allow any stage, but i imagine folks would just use the highest stage for it.
i'd sooner want those raid or forth (sic) battles back, but just being able to face a variety of mons is fine and good
raids should be doable! their art assets aren't on any DIMs, but they can be extracted from the .apk
Having raids back would be soo sic
The top thing I want back is Raids
Would they work differently? Or basically be a copy paste of the same system?
Ex. Attacking higher level bosses as u kill the previous one with helpers sometimes appearing.
Ofc, Id assume ud be making it from the ground up to not reuse code/assets
And would it be on a rotation for new bosses showing up every week/month, etc like a rotation between them?
Having unique bosses themed around the current anime at the time would be cool given someone makes the sprites for them before it ends XD.
i haven't actually looked too much into how they were working before.
my understand is that they were VERY high HP bosses not meant to be defeated by a single player. you'd fight it and then get some rewards, and then when it was collectively defeated, more rewards would be sent out.
i'm not married to setting it up that same way, but i also don't have any alternative designed out.
Let us put in multiple of our stored digimon to fight a tanky raid boss
sending more than one mon into a battle still needs to be added. i think vanguard/support are planned eventually, right now there's just one active
They were fights that you could potentially join others in
Part of the fun was trying to organize groups to fight in large battles to easily little down the Boss' hp faster
Dunno how feasible that would be within this project, it would be pretty sic to have lobby rooms to join before attacking en mass against the boss
oh that IS a cool setup. it makes it feel much more like a group activity then if you can queue up together.
aight, items store is working right now
one thing less, gonna tidy up the dialog a bit more
@undone charm what Version is it? 6.1?
i think so
This is what I have planned for next release
Store is complete, gonna do the next thing, database migrations
Gonna add too a way to export a log
i was gonna ask if this was on your fridge but then i remembered youre european
The mysterious black post its
So with custom dims being compatible with the app, I'm assuming/hoping they will also be allowed into the online battle mode? I imagine maybe some ppl will be annoying and do roided up digis to always win, but with this kinda project/community I don't really see that being much of a problem
I just think it'd be cool to see ppls custom guys especially on raid teams
we will see, we are trying to avoid sending sprite data over the wire to get rid of as much issues with bandai as possible
it might be better to talk to a bunch of custom DIM makers and with their approval, have them added to a "custom DIM pack" or something like that, that each person manually copies to their device. since we don't want to send the sprite over the wire, unless everyone is working from the same art assets, it's really hard to show the same thing on each client
maybe if everyone who wanted to help could create custom sprites for all the dims
it's very far-fetched
but it could actually allow us to have consistent sprites across every device while in battles
it would allow for better balancing for customs too
so they could actually participate
and it not be 1 sided
since we could bunch stats in then too
defo interested in the idea of a stat rebalancing effort, especially in the face of roided customs and genuinely questionable official stats
So i had no problem sending my digimon to the app, but VB helper keeps saying whoops when I try to send it back and it fails. Is there something im missing?
i need to add logging information and confirmation dialogs
but let's go through the steps once again, i can't remember if you were told them
Nah im new here
when you send back a character, you first set the watch to connect, then click send back to device
app will tell you to choose between "app to vital bracelet" or "vital bracelet to app"
choose app to vital
Ah so its a little bit specific about the order of operations
when both say connecting, approach the phone to the vital, wait a few seconds. App will say "send success", and then "whoops"
that first whoops is normal
Hm. Well first thing is the question of how would battles look? Would it just be your digimon and the opponent's attacks flying at you? Like would you see your opponents mon is the question
now wait for the vital to finish processing, you will know once it says "touch"
when it says touch, approach again and wait until the app says "send success"
there is a video somewhere in this thread
can't remember right now, sorry
i'm not doing the battles part myself
this is the latest battles stuff
So I guess my question is would everyone need to have the sprite data ALREADY on their app to see the opponent?
And the store is ready, now I have to implement in the adventure missions to award credits and when completing special missions
Yeah unfortunately on my watches end ut keeps failing
I used the original app as well when I got my VB
Then you'll have to wait for next version, I'm working on a patch that allows me to see why it's failing
Did you use the dim card in ur vb when trying to send back
That's okay! Youre doing the lord's work here for us
I had this exact problem at first with whoops but I just applied order of operations and second tap is when u plug it in to the device and it worked for me
I may try that next
It wont break my heart if I can't get it back, I was basically testing to see how it all worked
i need to add confirmation screens during the transfer process, that's a given
just like the old app
to avoid this "whoops" thing
Okay so do the first steps of send to device, once you tap it once and it does the thing, I plugged in my dim and then tapped again and it worked
the watch has to tell you to plug the dim in
if it doesn't tell you, then it doesn't really need it
It didn't tell me but I had tried twice and it didn't work
Once I plugged it in it did
tho it's a curious thing if it does end up working
yeah, the way it's setup right now, there's a python script that grabs all the sprites from the app's APK, and i copied that to my phone. the digimon IDs get grabbed from the database, and the opponent's data is grabbed when you select it with the button. that sets up the fight on the server. then each attack gets sent to the server, and the server responds to report how that round played out, reporting back on the HP
yeah i'm not really sure if/when it asks for the DIM to be inserted
btw if you need the server deployed, do let me know, i have resources available in my new machine
đ thank youuuu
we'll definitely need to move to that. setting up a user auth system is next for the battles, so the server can know who is who
, then yes likely imo the best solution for custom dims is to have it looked over and approved, and assuming the creator of the dim is cool with it, it could be added to like a custom thing for people to download It could allow them to be playable, without worrying over sprites being sent online
i think we could use nacaauth for that
Or at least have the bin for it for the app to use
it's designed to work like social auth, only for naca projects
works like oauth, but no one can create apps for it
only i can
Seeing those dodges gives me conniptions
the animations are definitely pretty fast there. feedback is definitely needed. i'm sure there will be a lot of stuff to fix.
It also helps to make an export data copy when you copy in a digimon before using items or anything - lately if I encounter an error in sending back to bracelet after I use an item - (60m timer, specifically - it's only happened to the BE.) I just load up my saved backup data and send it back to my bracelet and send it to the arena app
The lab days was fun, I loved running trains on bosses with folks
Will the strong attacks implemented? Like when it hits turn 3 for example some digimon will do a more powerful attack, with a closeup shot of them cutting in for a moment. Obv functionality is priority, but I think those are part of what can make a fight feel impactful is knowing you have a strong attack coming up, and hoping your digimon holds on till turn 3 to let er rip. The sprites used for their attacks were ones I know are used for said large attacks, and I didn't notice any differences between them from watching a couple times
de donde eres naca? porque con tanto curro te mereces que te inviten a unas birras o algo asĂ jajaja
I've been reading through this thread for a little bit, and this is the most excited I've been for a fan project ever. You guys rock! One question: Are Digivolution paths saved to each Digimon? Like, if I have a WarGreymon in the Arena app and transfer it to VBHelper, will the dex recognize the route it took?
that makes a lot of sense and explains these fields. i'll have to adjust it to use the small instead of the large.
it looks like the digimon's personality decides which round they use the large attack. i gotta check the DB and see if that data is in there or if that was somewhere in the game's logic.
personality looks to be per digimon species
late but could be cool to set up a spreadsheet and let people call dibs on sprites maybe? I've already resprited a few mons so it sounds like a fun project to do during downtime
Is it possible to export digimon individually?
I was just thinking about backing up your Digimon saved in the app
Like putting gamma.mon or agu.mon on your PC lol
Yes so I believe each species is one of 5 I think personalities, and it is supposed to correlate to an activity level, like lazy, indoor etc
This is a good question
I was also curious on if abilities will be implemented
If it is not in the data of the digimon, the Evo guide on humulos shows the personality of every digimon, tho to be frank it SHOULD be in their data somewhere because they do it on the vital bracelet itself
españa
del sur
la tierra grande de AndalucĂa
let's go europeeps
You actually could make it like lab, where the "strong attack" was actually when the meter reached full rather than it being random
This theme plays when pitting your Digimon against another in the Digimon Vital Bracelet Lab App. It's been extended to play for an hour!
First time making a music extension, kinda just threw this together in an hour because I wanted to listen to this theme for longer but noone had it available. So I did it myself. Enjoy!
Footage courtesy of ...
Small footage of it here for you
refactored some of the import card logic from the application to a separate class, now i gotta refactor part of the database to make querying less insufferable
you guys are awesome! can't wait for the release
you guys are amazing! Keep it up! love you guys!
reworking now the upload to watch screen, should resolve upload issues with the random whoops
now there is
and the double scanning issue seems to be fixed now
i bet this is the reason why most transfers fail
and done
it does weirdly get stuck after sending a character
but it works
i think i know what is happening
and it's because the UI is not refreshing in time
i need to adapt the home screen to use stateflows
Nevermind, turns out I wasn't setting a flag
Gonna commit to main
gonna release 0.6.2 now, once android studio is done
or not, gonna do it tomorrow
forgot to add a way to earn currency using special missions and adventure missions
Still no iPhone support?
You are at liberty to make that port yourself.
oh my god FINALLY YES
There wont ever be until Apple decides to be nice.
nice (free to program for)
Will 0.6.2 work with exported save data from the current version?
pray be the day apple isn't fisherprice
I need to rework save data exports
There will never be an iPhone port
It seems very difficult to transfer a mon back to the watch atm. It would be nice to have a forced gap between the steps until the previous step is fully complete and instructions, i remember the VB Arena made it kinda complicated but it did tell you what to do
Yayyy
Excited to see it pushed!
I have no idea why but I've cloned 4 mons from 1 card. The Palmons came from interacting with it from the main menu to trigger a battle. The Veggiemon was what I was trying to store and it somehow cloned.
Loving this project
Clones should also be fixed with this
Active characters now display as such in the storage
You also earn credits from completing adventure missions
Todo, balance the items obtained
https://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper/releases/tag/v0.6.2-pre new update, database reset necessary, sorry
i'm still finishing a few things, but i believe the final model will be complete soon
already exporting most of the interesting stuff from the card
NOOO MY MARSMON TWINS
OH okay
Sorry, I'm very close to finishing the database
save data conversion when
I must keep my babies
Totally fine tbqh
That I want to do it next
I'm gonna move away from my database thing to a json file
I'm doing very weird stuff to move database across devices
That or just export a character as a mon file
I'm glad you gave us a save data export option, very smart tbh. That way you could write a function for conversion each time an update happens
I'm gonna create the list of things to do for next version
And done
Forgot to add to balance out the prices from adventure missions
Also I need to back up my signing keys
Wooohooo yayy Naca!
@undone charm - why is this happening??
I imported data save from the previous version - does it not work?
you can't use this function until the finish of the data base
I just realized that after reading through the messages đ
seems like it still fails to send back to the device most of the time in original vital bracelets
Are you send them with items? In my case I tried with my BE and all went good
nope, just sending a digimon to the app and then trying to send it back to the vb as it is
Sending from the app to my -Digivice V- (VB) took me 5 times until the digimon were sent to the watch with Vital Arena is 3 times. I think is not a fail it's like a verification message đ€
Hola perdon me quedaron 2 dudas, primero ya se pueden exportar la info en la siguiente actualizacion apartir de esta? y 2 ya que habra misiones especiales como se podra obtener creditos si todos mis digimon son criados en el be?
@whole kestrel It seems that data deletion will be necessary again with this update.
You also get credits by letting your characters complete adventure missions or completing special missions in your VB
The update history contains detailed information about this update, so it's a good idea to review it.
Lo que yo me referĂa es que cuando salga la siguiente actualizaciĂłn la de la app es decir la 0.6.3 se podrĂĄ actualizar sin borrar los datos y con respecto todos mis Digimon fueron criados en el vb be y las misiones son para el vb/vh. por ello mis Digimon pueden hacer las misiones ? O tendrĂ© que usar el vh para criar nuevos Digimon para obtener los crĂ©ditos haciendo misiones
Voy a intentar que la siguiente versiĂłn no haga falta borrar ya
Try leaving the devices connected for longer
And make sure the device is fully ready, as in, once the device says TOUCH again after sending the card
muchas gracias por el trabajo naca, eres un grande. entonces con esta versión seguramente ya no necesitemos borrar nada a la próxima o tocarå borrar para instalar la siguiente y entonces ahà ya tendrås el nuevo tema de base de datos? estoy deseando probar esto junto con vital wear, va a ser un sueño hecho realidad gracias a vosotros
AĂșn no nos confiemos
Me quedan revisar algunas cosas
Pero se acerca
Voy a hacer algo para exportar los datos del Digimon de todas formas
Gracias, ya quiero probar la app
Buenas!!!
Primero de todo muchĂsisisimas gracias por tu aporte a esta comunidad, esta app es un tesoro para todos!!
Tengo una duda que no me termina de quedar clara a pesar de leer los comentarios.
Al usar "export data" podré recuperar mis digimon almacenados usando la opción "import data" tras actualizar la app de la versión anterior a esta o no funciona?
si no es asĂ, se podrĂĄn recuperar usando esa opciĂłn en futuras versiones?
Por ahora lo Ășnico que se me ocurre es exportar esos datos en otro mĂłvil, actualizar el mĂo e ir pasando los digimon del mĂłvil al vital y de ahĂ a la nueva app
Ahora mismo como estĂĄ puesto el export data, estĂĄ para apps de la misma versiĂłn
Tipo, puedes transferir entre 0.6.2 y 0.6.2
La cosa futura que tengo en mente quitarĂĄ estĂĄ restricciĂłn
Pero también quiero quitar lo del reset de bases de datos pronto
Que tengo que revisar que cosas extraer de la base de datos
Puedo usarlo para almacrnar a mis digimon ya que la app de bandai esta casi llena
It seems I misunderstood.
I apologize.
Naca, tengo en mi movil varios archivos Cache de la Vital Arena App por si te interesa de 2023 y 2024. Si me dices que si te los paso todos sin problemas
ntp
empezando a instalar para probar la app, un comentario en el anuncio me dice que la aplicacion es solo compatible con el vb/VH Âżno es compatible con el VB BE?
También lo es
Gracias
Ya lo intenté, no sirve, VB arena guarda los datos de guardado en un XML dentro del almacén del sistema operativo
Tipo, solo se puede sacar con root
Ni con Adb tampoco?
Si quieres puedo intentarlo, tengo justo la app en el PC a ver si saca algo
Se guarda todo aquĂ
Vale, voy a probar entonces a sacar un backup en adb a ver si me deja realizarlo con la Depuracion USB
Nada, seguramente tenga el backup en false, me da corrupto con ello tengo root actualmente en el movil donde tengo los datos
Correcto, el backup estĂĄ false
Lo que si que tengo el VB de Gammamon por si te hace falta algun dato de el o algo en un futuro que lo necesites
Perdon por preguntar no afecta en nada si cuando descarge la dim o be memory le cambio el nombre en la app?
Tambien debo ponerle como guarde el archivo? Por ejemplo 01-Impulse City o solo el nombre?
No pasa nada, yo le he cambiado a todas incluso a las custom
El nombre no afecta a nada, solo se usa para mostrarse
Okey muchas gracias ahorita estoy poniendo los archivos después pasaré algunos Digimon
Me encanta como hemos pasado todos a hablar español aquĂ
Lo siento me equivoqué, pensé estaba en el otro grupo
Xdddd
Btw I'm gonna resume developing vb helper when I come back from Italy next week
My laptop is not powerful enough to run android studio, and my laptop battery is toast
Might continue working with nacabattle in the meantime, since it's something I can develop from my laptop
make sure you enjoy italy while you're there! đ
Ohh Are you going to Italy for work or vacation? Well, whatever the reason, I hope you enjoy the trip.
Mucha suerte en la competencia
Grasias
apkpure should have one.
I instaled thia
you'll still need an XAPK of vb arena if you have not fully set up vb helper.
Could you tell me the step-by-step process? I'm Brazilian.
https://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper?tab=readme-ov-file#how-to-set-up
this should cover that (i have no supported android version to be able to even install the app)
Naca what programing language are you using for the app?
La transferencia del digimon a la app y de la app al vb Be funciono sin ningun problema
Kotlin
java's cousin in law
it's java, but with a lot of paint and glitter
i love it
you get the benefits of the JVM, but you also get the benefits of programming with a simple, easy to understand language
java is an experience
it's nice, but the fact that everything is a class, requires at least knowledge in OOP
Okay, so quick question. If you already have the final version of Vital Bracelet Arena (The offline mode update) installed, step 2 can be skipped, right? I'd rather not lose my characters currently in VB Arena if possible prior to the VitalWear connectivity update (At that point I won't mind losing my current characters)
I made a mistake, it's not VB arena, but VB Helper
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
Question: Have you considered buying a modern mini PC for app development and future projects? They're quite affordable for coding and come with good processors, RAM, and integrated M.2 storage.
They are usually priced between âŹ200-âŹ350 on Aliexpress (I've bought quite a few things there and if you know how to buy, otherwise I can recommend it since I buy a lot there) and they are quite viable options as well as being small enough to take anywhere.
Oh, I see, that would definitely be a bit over budget then.
Hey @undone charm new update hasn't had any issues so far - really awesome work and lots of kudos.
This is more a visual - for the next major update would you be able to change the 'delete character' to red?
Sure thing
Thank you! I keep accidentally hitting delete character when trying to send on adventure đ€Ł
Gave +1 Digi-rep to @undone charm (current: #11 - 152)
Where is the link for this app? I can't seem to find it in Pins...
Can we Pin that link for the future?
i don't even think naca can pin his own posts
I also have to add a confirm delete dialog
U could add a checkbox for no confirm delete dialogue too. Always good to have UI options
Like first time u try to delete a mon, it shows up asking if u want to, and theres a checkbox to remove the confirmation for future deletions if u want.
Yeah the new update rocks, had little to no issues especially with Digimon being sent into the aether. Been using my Vital Hero pre Digimon Link mod. Say hi to Locomon!!
I'll chime in as well with a little visual suggestion, but I DO understand if it'd be a tad harder to implement, but an indicator that a Digimon was achieved via jogress would be nice, maybe by having the 2 jogress components be semi-visible behind the end result like the example below (Its what I did to have Machmon become Locomon). Fine if it's not possible but I thought it'd be a fun little way to show jogresses!
I was looking at this app and, meanwhile, congratulations to @undone charm for the work done, then, I still have to install it, to do that I have to uninstall arena first?
I spoke too soon, I cant seem to send my Locomon back to my VH..
Ended up having to delete it, idk why that happened
i don't think i can detect if the character was achived through a jogress
need to add the logging data to see the reason
My guess is no, due to the mechanics of jogressing being kinda strange, since they don't actually fuse, the device just checks and sees if you have the two digimon necessary, one in the active spot and one in storage, and if you do it will evolve the active Digimon, but the other digimon does not disappear, change, or evolve, it just checks a box for the active slot digimon to evolve
I know through the old app tracking Evo lines is possible, but I think it's just the one line, though maybe a workaround of if the evolution requires a jogress, you could have it show the necessary storage mon for the jogress to imitate what the person was suggesting
que raro por que yo antes hice la prueba con ghostmon en un VB BE y no tuve ningun problema, lo reintentaste para evitar borrar a tu digimon
?
?
I did yeah, several times :(
que raro, por que yo no he tenido ningun problema
I didnt have any either until I attached special missions to him before transfering back to my VH
fuera de la mision especial tiene algun item?
i'm guessing when battles will be back a discord can form
role named vital bracelet online battles
true
is there a way to remove or cancel a special mission once it's been applied that I'm not seeing?
also does it show only 4 slots because you can only load 4 at a time? I was experienting and loaded a fifth special mission and now my digimon won't send back to the VH
mmm I didn't tried with special missions
maybe it's a bug
i've noticed that the vh is better for transfers
You can infer a jogress happened since attribute jogress usually lets you go to non natural lines but since it only cares about attribute I don't think there would be a way to identify what digimon you used as the jogress partner specifically
Yeahhh thats what ended up happening to me
My Locomon also had 5 rather than 4
Hi all, i've this vb and say error when i try to Connect with bvhelper. It's normal or i'm doing something bad?
app fully set up yes, when i try to connect the vb with the phone the vb send mon but the app say this.
Entonces no sirve aun? PensĂ© que tenĂa algunas cosas activas
DeberĂa funcionar con el VB
Did you also load your cards in the settings?
I cant load Mon from vb directly to app?
Once you import the card its from you can.
A detailed guide is available on the GitHub page, but as others have mentioned, you'll need the Dim card and BEM bin files.
The guide also explains how to dump the data.
Aren't you supossed to have the DIMs anyways?
Even with the bin files you can't do anything without authenticating them with the DIM cards and a VB
Any news about the battle section?
Sigue en proceso
i worked with naca a week or two ago to get a login page setup for nacaauth, so accounts work now.
i'll be doing a bit more work on the battles this weekend as well.
ah right, are we still at the point where databases'll need to be wiped with the next update
Question about the battle section is it gonna be the VBLAB battle system or VBARENA battle system
I haven't tried any of the 2 tbh but VBLAB seems easier
Creo que estara basado en el de vblab
đ
Idk how to speak Spanish or whatever it is
Based in vb lab?
For the moment yes
Right now it's just using the critical bar and attack button system from vb lab. When direct PVP between players is an option, it might need reworked to have the attack and defense phases like vb arena had.
yeahhh. we definitely don't want the matches to drag out. it should be snappy and fun
@undone charm I accidentally used 5 special training to my Digimon, now it's not transferring back to my vb. đ„ș
Is there a way to get more credits or that's there just to showcase items for now ?
Use the adventure mode. Every time your character return from an adventure gives you an object and money
Question about this, I still have the VB Arena app installed from when the service was taken offline. Its updated to the last version they put out. Is it safe to use that installation for VBHelper or should I grab an APK?
Awesome, thanks for the help! \o/
How to use the app
https://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper/?tab=readme-ov-file#how-to-set-up
this should have the instructions you need
Contribute to nacabaro/vbhelper development by creating an account on GitHub.
fairly easy once you have your rips
Can confirm. Got it to work quite easily today!
(I cant find the og message but I think it was from @undone charm )
Response to your (alleged)
response:
There are special missions? The one feature that Bandai Namco forgot to put into the arena app? You all rock!!
there are special missions yes
That question was meant to be rhetorical but thank you again for all ya guys do!
Gave +1 Digi-rep to @undone charm (current: #11 - 155)
Hello, I'm new and trying to install the VB helper. It's just a matter of hours before my VB battery dies. I need to transfer my Digimon to the BE app, please help!
@soft viper has leveled up! (0 â 1)
- charge your device
- read the readme
Ok, App installed and bin files transferred to my device. Now it shows a "whoops" message when I try to transfer a Digimon to my VBE
The app is still in beta stages. There are still known bugs including sometimes losing Digimon in transfer, or sometimes not being able to transfer at all. Thus the disclaimer: "Don't bring over any Digimon you care about."
I tried it with one I don't really care about. I read on Reddit that Vital Hero/Bracelet digimon could be transferred to the BE, but it showed the "Whoops" message.
That is not possible
But you can do VB - VH
BE only transfers to another BE
Is there a video on how to setup the VB Helper app? If there is please send it to me I'd be very grateful
Una pregunta si un digimon se clono en vb helper afecta en algo?
i don't believe there is a setup video, but there is a text guide:
https://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper/?tab=readme-ov-file#how-to-set-up
if you run into troubles setting it up, you can ask for help here though
Te comento que me ha ocurrido un par de veces. No ocurre nada como en el caso de las antiguas apps que luego que volvĂas a enviar al digimon desaparecĂan los clonados previamente
MĂĄs bien me ayudĂł a completar la DEX xD
Gracias
How to transfer from VB to VH?
Posiblemente atravez de la app de vb helper
is anyone in trouble about sending the mon back from the app?
el unico problema que tuve fue la clonacion
can happen, sorry i didn't have much time as of late to work in the app
will return to development once i finish a few features in nacabattle
since i'm in the middle of project rotations
ah, dont worry
you got this and several college gigs to attend to
And tomorrow I gotta go create a business
Gonna try to automate all my tasks, since I want some freedom while I continue with my masters
Me paso algo raro con la app de vb helare
Tuve que cambiar de telĂ©fono y cuando pase la info y instale la app me salĂan todos los Digimon que habĂa puesto la app en el antiguo cel, pero no me deja sacarlos, lo volvĂ a borrar ponerlo pero aĂșn no me deja sacarlo asĂ que lo borre del archivo raĂz y volverĂ© a intentar instalarlo y ver si se puede transferir de la app al vb be
El cel nuevo es un xiami rendĂ note pro 5G
Solo me sale whoops
Alguien sabe por que?
Curioso
Lo probarĂ© porque justamente tengo el mismo mĂłvil que tĂș
Que me comprĂ© mĂłvil nuevo hace medio mes o asĂ
Muchas gracias @undone charm
btw, forgot to talk about this (sorry life got too busy)
but the application was translated to pt-BR recently https://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper/pull/44
i need to make a build
parabĂ©ns amigos! Alguien se anima al español? đŹ
lo mas seguro es que lo acabe haciendo yo
Grande Naca
EstarĂ© pendiente de la prĂłxima actualizaciĂłn para continuar haciendo pruebas đ«Ą
Oh đ
If the translation needs any review, I'll gladly work on it
Question, can I export my database, update the app, the import the database to no lose my digimon?
Or is the only way to preserve them to just
Transfer to watch > transfer to VB Arena > update > Transfer to watch > Transfer to VB helper
Yeah, right now the database is not fully complete, so exporting and reimporting the database will produce the same error
I might be doing something wrong. When I download the Arena app from Google play store. its not in apk form do I need a computer to make it into apk form?
para el apk debes hacerlo en la computadora o desde un naveador de internet
Im at work currently so where would be a good place to get it in apk form
So i can see if i could attempt it tomorrow
Apkpure
Thank you
Okay, encontre un bug y me hizo perder un Garurumon. Explico la situacion. Al intentar pasar de la antigua App a traves del VB a la nueva version, en la nueva estaba activo aun un MetalGreymon, al intentar transferir uno nuevo, me ha saltado como si se hubiera transferido pero no se ha generado en el Storage
QuĂ© dispositivo empleaste? Mantuviste el celular junto al VB o solo fue un toque? Te lo comento porque yo perdĂ un digimon asĂ porque lo retiraba muy pronto. A partir de esa perdida lo que hice fue dejar un pequeño espacio entre mi equipo y el reloj para ver que efectivamente se haya puesto la pantalla en gris del VB (osea que ya se haya enviado). He realizado esto con Digivice V (1.5) o su equivalente serĂa el Vital Hero y tambiĂ©n con el BE no he tenido ningĂșn problema
Llevo bastante tiempo con el Digivice V, en este caso fue ese dispositivo y lo suelo dejar con durante unos segundos para la recepciĂłn de datos, como suele hacerse, pero por algĂșn motivo no lo acepto, tenĂa tambiĂ©n puestas los backup de mis DIM y aĂșn asĂ fallo, creo que fue algo puntual y ya al intentar hacer la transferencia de Digimon
quĂ© Android maneja tu dispositivo? Yo he probado en 3, uno con Android 16, 15 y 13. Ăste Ășltimo me ha hecho perder 4 digimon de la dim de Espimon. Estoy esperando que Naca pueda sacar una nueva versiĂłn del app en la que incluya exportar logs para que pueda ver el comportamiento de mi equipo con android 13. Lejos de eso no he tenido ningĂșn problema con los otros ni con los relojes
Estoy en Android 14 con el Poco X5 Pro de 8/256GB, por ahora no me ha dado ningĂșn otro error ni bug en las transferencias
Both sending and receiving mons are ok?
For now, yes. Not problem at all, only one bug but works fine
pues , yo recomendaria hacer una prueba antes de enviar al gun digimon importante para ti
Odd. I mean, good for you. I cant recover my mon from the app. You used any items on your mons?
Naca is working on a fix for that bug
Its says whoops when i send mon from app to vb anyone knows how to fix?
How are you transferring your character?
On the vb i select the option send (from home menĂș and tried from storage menu).
On the app i select app to vital bracelet.
NFC touch.
All ok, Dim icon on vb and Card ready on app.
Vb read the dim perfect and wait for NFC touch.
Confirm on app and wait for NFC touch.
Error on app and vb trying to Connect and failed.
Tried with two different Mons, one w items and one without.
is your VB one of the first ever made? aka the oldest firmware one
it's because someone had the same issue as you and it seems to only happen in the oldest of the VBs
VBBE Boku No Hero edition
i haven't had any free time in a few weeks to work on it. the last thing that was done on it was adding user authentication.
time FLIES. it did not feel like a few weeks hahaha
Out of curiosity, what IDE do you prefer for Kotlin?
np
it WAS the holidays so take your time
I'm honestly excited for PvP mode
we should have some more news this week on that đ
testing should be able to start very soon
I'm also gonna switch back to developing vb helper soon, been doing Nacabattle
Now once I finish the exams
yeah me too
Same! The app is pretty awesome, glad to see the bracelets are still going strong after Bandai abandoned them
I imported my Impulse City (DiM Card) into the app and am testing it with VBDM and VH.
The VB Arena (VBDM) > VBDM > VB Helper > VH > VB Arena (VH) experience seems to be 100% functional (I'm still testing the loss of the of Adventure mode's Red Flag).
Does anyone know what happens to a Digimon that was born from a VBBE and tries to be transferred to another model (VH, for example) using VB Helper?
Yo use el be y funcionaba solamente en el nuevo cel no podia regresar a los digis al vb be
Me pasa lo mismo
Seguro tenĂan las 4 misiones para realizar, una sola vez no me permitiĂł enviar el digimon al app aunque fue con un digi del VB/VH. En elBE no he tenido ningĂșn problema
You can't
No habia enviado a ningun digimon de mision, ademas yo utilizo el be, antes utilizaba un telefono samsun pero reciente mente cambie al xiaomi redmi note 14 pro 5g y probe la ultima version de la app y no me dejaba sacar al digimon siempre salia oops
QuĂ© raro, eso me sucedĂa en la versiĂłn 0.6.1 en mi Xiaomi Redmi Note 13 Pro 5G (garnet) xD que tiene una custom rom de android 16 pero incluso con la stock rom tenĂa problemas pero para mĂ que era por el chip NFC del celular que se calentaba. Como le dedicaba un par de horas al testeo (con el BE) los enviaba y regresaba al reloj constantemente hasta que despuĂ©s de media hora o menos a veces ya no enviaba (aparecĂa el mensaje de "whoops"). Para que suceda ello le daba al digimon objetos de acortamiento del tiempo, les subĂa los puntos vitales, y muchas peleas
Yo lo probe ysando digimon de etapa baby 1
De hecho probe la app de arena y ni asi
Se ppdian regresar solo enviar
Mmm si probaste con el app oficial y ni asĂ podĂa regresar al vital hero pensarĂa que se ha soltado internamente algĂșn pin de la antena. Te dirĂa que borres los datos del app pero mĂĄs pareciera que se soltĂł de la placa
mejor espera a que Naca saque la siguiente versiĂłn si igual se borrarĂĄn los datos mejor que sea por una actualizaciĂłn
Use rl vital bracelet be
Any news?
I plan on returning soon, once I'm done with my exams
Gonna also finish a few things related to NacaBattle before switching
los esperamos con ansias
i'm workin on getting the networking/infrastructure set up for the server to be publicly accessible currently. i just received all the networking info after it was provisioned
Any news on bringing back digimon from older saves to newer versions? I miss my pals
send me the old vb helper database and i'll give you an updated one
i haven't made migrations, but i can manually transition your save to the latest
Can you merge also? I think I have Digimon on a new save too
Id have to check
yeah i can
will do it tomorrow, it's 2:44
just send me the db in dms and i'll merge it for you
the db being the vbhelper file from exporting the save
Oh I even have a bugged Dokimon that I wanna keep cause he just spawned outta nowhere
Please dont kill him he's just a guy
Idek how he emerged. I was transfering a BE Digimon and the app had a hiccup and spawned him out of nowhere.
Its like an actual Digimon
Thank you kind stranger
Gave +1 Digi-rep to @undone charm (current: #11 - 158)
Can't wait for the pvp update. Would be the perfect incentive for me to further train my mons.
Having said that: super happy with the app as it is. Thank you @undone charm and @limber inlet for the awesome work so far â€ïž
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Gave +1 Digi-rep to @undone charm (current: #11 - 159)
Ya tengo a vatios digimon listos para el pvp
For the VB Helper do I just need the Arena APK to extract the file(to install secret file thing on Helper) or do I also need to install Arena also?
Only the APK, you don't have to install it
Ah cool so it's just for the secret file
Did I do something wrong? I tried to send my digimon to the VB Helper and it acts like it sends from the Vital Hero, but doesn't go through the app, which said something like it couldn't read the DiM or something like that.
@ornate stump has leveled up! (0 â 1)
Did you import the dim cards into the app?
I did not. I'll look into doing that. Thank you.
@undone charm Naca, silly question, but could the reason I can't return the creatures to the vital be because they're Dim and I gave them stat items? Could there be a conflict?
Which items did you give them
Time limit, i dont remember. But nvm, tried with a Fresh Mon and same error
can you send me your vbhelper file?
you can export the data in the app, i can see why it's failing that way
send it in dms
Hey, does this work with the non-digimon collabs bandai did or nah?
you're uploading the card images as a resource for the app to pull from. so presumably yes. though i cannot recall if naca has stated support for the VBC toy itself.
VBC works
How do the app items work? Do you add your character to the app, apply the item, then transfer them back to your bracelet?
And additionally: how do the special missions work?
yes
same has items but when you clear for exemple 5 battles you get 3 trophies
very useful
PS only for vh and og vb
yes, it's very usefull to reach the conditions to evolve your digimons
Actually, the plural of Digimon is Digimones.
I'm going to return to this shortly, Im gonna finish a few NacaBattle things and I'll begin fixing bugs again
And I want to ask a thing, would you like the app to motivate you more to exercise using your VB/BE?
I personally want to be a bit more motivated, so I was thinking to make the app push you more to do exercise
And I have a way to do so, with something like a streak
So essentially, daily missions where you do exercise to complete
Maybe be a log in streak? Too
Nah, log in streak would only be able to get achieved by exercising with a digimon in the watch
Otherwise you ain't getting it
Fair
Imagine Duolingo forcing you to do french lessons, I'd force you to exercise or you ain't getting a reward

Lmao
the fun part about this is that i'm french XD
QuizĂĄs una pantalla con grĂĄfico de histograma de los ultimos 7 dĂas con los digimon que ganaron el mayor nĂșmero de trofeos (sus miniaturas en el histograma) y si nos desplazamos a la parte baja una especie de podio donde aparecen los 3 digimon mĂĄs trofeos o un resumen de cada dĂa con mĂ©tricas como los ejercicios realizados con mayor continuidad (AP, HP, BP)
Will ut also make vaguely disguised threats if you dont continue the streak as well. "Looks like you missed a day, you know what that means..."
please god enough digis have been lost to the vb arena aether,,,
so, that means a yes?
...hmm
I like turtles đ
el problema es que en el be los trofeos ya no se pueden conseguir si se acaban las 100 hrs ademas que por ejemplo hay muchos digimon que tengo que no estan en etapa mega y tienen combates y vital pints suficientes si sacara trofeos eolucionarian y eso no quiero estar preocupandome cada determinado tiempo de evitar que evolucione un digimon
ya que yo me auto aplique el desafio que cada digimon que tengo haga el max de batallas que registre el reloj que es de 999
Wow I love this just started exercising again after so long and the motivation my digimon gives me actually makes me walk outside?
Some app-specific motivations too. Like a dailies list. Exercise, use an item, battle in the arena, do x amount of battles etc etc.
Lab would be a great template
Quick question, How do you earn store points on the BE? I know it says you can do missions on VB but that was removed for BE
i was hoping to do that using online battles once they become available
That would be awesome
Excited to see the online battles, will be a nice revival for the BEs
Wow thatâs so sick I canât wait bought my niece a vital bracelet for his birthday
@undone charm I hope you don't mind me asking, What made you start creating the app? It's got to be a lot of work and technical knowledge so huge kudos
tbh, the app got started after cfogrady and i started talking in private about the VB. First it was just about creating a library and parsing the data, in which i have not much idea since i suck at reverse engineering
then once he had a working library, i jumped in and started making the app
we would help eqach other during initial stages and then i kind of went on my own. Rn he's trying to add compatibility with the VitalWear to VB helper, so he keeps helping whenever he can
then lightheel joined and right now he's doing the online battles part
but as a motivation to help create the app, was mostly the existence of a library to interact with the VB, also because i love VBs still
We back
I'm still going through the features I had parked a few months ago
Which are these
If everything goes well, I should be done with the database model this release
And I can focus on bug fixing
For some reason this part is so slow
Maybe it's because of my hardware?
Aight, first element off of the check list
Gonna focus on the second element, improvement on the special missions part of the app
time to connect my regular VB to charge
still amazed i was able to fix it
question will you make a discord for the vbhelper
i don't think there's a need for a vb helper discord, i assume hummus doesn't have any restrictions against talking about it in #modern_vpets
alr thanks
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one down, time to go for a snack
merged
now time to go for the snack
and let my home server cool down
New implementation works
Let's do some testing
It seems to be working
And it should be safer than the previous implementation
It's perfect
Gonna add a way to remove special missions next
i hope to get a motorola soon so that i can enjoy this app sometime soon..
oh they have a sale. today i buy. see you soon 
one of us, one of us
I'm sorry, what???
it happens to me sooooo many times. im sure it's just firefox being firefox though. or the privacy settings in it.. i tried many things. task manager'd it, cleared cookies many times, hard reboot of computer.. but alas.. had to use my phone to buy
Andoooooriiiiiiiddddddd
probably coulda bought it at my local t-mobile store but i get the feeling they closed shop 'cause of the weather
also didn't want a plan with it either TBF since i'm still locked with t-mobile on my iphone..
this'll get me to restart playing my vbbe
i hope to hate it less soon.
...i keep forgetting there's more to use with this than the vh
Android studio, I hate you
It unlinked my phone and my laptop and now it refuses to connect
well, so uh
i fucked up
i should have created signing keys from the very beginning, so to transition to the new signing keys you will need an uninstall. Again, apologize for the inconvenience, I promise this should be one of the final ones, since the rest of the stuff related to the DB model should be almost done
i'm going to release a build of the APK using proper signing keys
oooooo ptbr translation
you can do an en-us translation if you want too now
you know i wont
sad
i did not know signing keys could expire
yeah, me neither
i was using the debug signing key in android studio to make the app
and that expires every 30 days
so i had to make my own signing key
yeeah, i'm still very fresh to making android apps, i've never had to publish an app in my life, so this is the first time i find out about it
i made a backup of my shiny new signing key in my servers
with this release, my next milestone in my bullet list is to finish the database design and make it definitive
which should make it to v1.0
or in this case v0.7
huh, never used android studio for anything more than generating keystores to export godot apps - and those don't seem to expire at all
still, real happy to see missions more or less safe this time around
ye that's the thing, i never generated a keystore
i was using the debug key generated by android studio, which does seem to expire every 30 days according to google

the thing is that due to my workflow, i have never worked more than 30 days in vb helper in one sitting, so i never found about this
BUT
there is a workaround to update without losing your mons
export data in VB helper, uninstall the app, install 0.6.3, and then restore data
if i'm not misremembering, the database schema hasn't changed between 0.6.2 and 0.6.3, so if anyone wants to sacrifice their mons to science, feel free to do so
mm, been keeping a select few mons on my vh's and sometimes vb arena anyhow
i'm dreading the day when i decide to transfer all my mons outside of VB arena
por que temes , no se deberia ser espero?
@whole kestrel has leveled up! (4 â 5)
Probablemente tomarĂĄ mucho tiempo
probare la nueva actualizacion espero que funcione la transferencia en el nuevo cel
Buena suerte
Si, lo que pasa es que si lo pasa pero no lo puede devolver
No me dejĂł sacar al Digimon sigue saliendo whoops
Mucho Digi que transferir
DĂmelo a mi luego compartirĂ© una imagen de mi coleccion
Mi colecciĂłn estĂĄ ahora en el mĂłvil de la empresa
Hello, I'm new to VB Helper and I followed the guide but I can't transfer my Digimon. My phone is a Samsung Galaxy S24.
Your phone has NFC and VB Helper a copy of the Digimon's BIN, right?
Hmm
I got a Galaxy myself, admittedly it took a bit to get NFC scans working at first too
Feels like you have to keep the phone on the sensor longer than you would for Arena
Then, on Arena, the APK tells me that the phone is not compatible with the APK.
Huh, like an insufficient Android version?
Can't think of why they'd bar you, or at least I've no clue if the Play Store one was taken off like the Apple one
Yes I downloaded the Arena app from a website and when I tried to install the APK, it told me that the app is not compatible with my phone.
My phone came out in 2024, it might be too recent.
It worked, but only partially. The Digimon did disappear from my VB, but it didn't appear in the app XD
Did you import the cards?
maybe not the right one
I confirm it wasn't the right one
XD
another french guy like me cool
Yes
But my English is terrible, thank goodness for Google Translate.
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Overthrow the French!1!!1!!!!
NO
cool
Basically your neighbor
That's great, you're from Spain!
Si
It worked with the correct .bin file.
"algo mĂĄs no me acuerdo" te queremos naca
i forgot about the dumping cards part when it came to using the app..
and i removed ch347 from my aliexpress order since i wanted to just go-ahead with a t48..
(its not like i didnt order the other stuff for dumping the card, just not the programmer itself)
What do we need to order to get the app to work?
android pie or higher OS, a way to sideload apps, an unexpired signature or whatever token that says the app is ok to install.
then you need to install the app, import the XAPK of vb arena (particularly of 2.1.0), and the dumped data of your card, for the app to use as a resource.
at least that's as far as my knowledge goes, i'm sure i'll learn more tomorrow... and when i get my programmer..
i thought only an .apk specifically was valid for importing?
Oh damn okay
Ngl Iâm not too good with computer stuff but Iâll defo try it just confused how it call connects to the phone
En mi caso Yo tengo el Xaomi Redmi Note 14 Pro 5G y me permite pasarlos a la app pero Por alguna razon siempre para sacarlos me saca el Whoops y eso que use la version mas reciente de la app
yo tengo el mismo
xiaomi redmi note 14 pro plus 5g lo que sea
pero ayer probe y extrañamente me iba
actualiza a 0.6.3 y pasame tu archivo de exportacion
que dim es?
đ
didn't know thunderbird had support for webdav, so i started shoving everything related to my projects into my home server's webdav instance and, this rocks
since i do emails in thunderbird, might aswell start doing calendar and tasks too
i feel like i'm reaching old fart age where i have to have task management
Las veces que lo probe fueron con 2 custom dim
si la prueba de ayer la hice con la 0.6.3 y me salia con whoops
Has anyone done this yet? If not, I'm (reluctantly) willing to do this for science!
I don't have my phone or my watch to run tests 
i finally got myself a debuggable case of the failing to send character
i have no idea what i just did
i had the same issue as "i cannot send the watch, the app keeps saying whoops"
the solution was to do it while the VB was charging?
can anyone with this issue try this solution?
cargando de bateria o preparando las cosas?
cargando de bateria
pero tipo
to basto, que he probado 5 veces a enviar a mi wargrowlmon
y las 5 whoops despues de enviar la dim
entonces me he desesperado, he empezado a ver que ni el VB aceptaba ninguna dim
lo he puesto a cargar, y he transferido mientras cargaba, lo he intentado de nuevo, y ahora si fue
pero por ejemplo si es un digimon que ya habia estado en el vb y no te pide meter la dim?
lo probare con el devidevimon atorado en el nuevo cel
y si, funciona en el xiaomi redmi note 14 pro plus 5g lo que sea
lo probe ayer
no entiendo por que fallaria
este problema va a ser dificil de encontrarle raiz
lo probare y te envio de nuevo el archivo
es esporadico, y se esconde cuando le intento meter mano
anyway
no update today, no real progress either
i just updated the libraries catalog and cleaned up a bit the gradle part
also increased the api to 36
No funciono
Te mando el archivo haber si ahĂ lo dice
lo probe en el Be
pero es raro en mi antiguo cel si funciona sin problemas
Lo miro mañana, que ya apague para dormir
si ntp, muchas gracias
Hola a mi tambien me pasa eso del whoops pero después de casi 10 veces ya pude mandarlo cuando antes con un solo contacto se pasaba el digi al vital xD jajajaa pensé que era mi cel por el nfc pero viendo que a ti también te esta pasando puedo descartar eso
hi, is the item usage feature already implemented or not?
it is
parece ser que el problema del whoops, que es el "tag was lost", esta asociado al hardware nfc, me confirmo cfogrady ayer
Pero no pasarĂa igual en el primer paso para devolverlo al vb? Por quĂ© cuando lo quiero devolver si pasa el primer chequeo pero el segundo es donde me sale el whoops