#VB Helper - Replacement app for VB Arena

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undone charm
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if you want to get items, send mons to adventure

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also don't forget to import secrets and the dim cards you will use

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you can also get them by completing special missions in the VB

haughty quest
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Is there an easy guide to import? I have no history with the old app

undone charm
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in the settings of the app, you get two options

  • import secrets, you have to choose an APK of VB Arena (original app)
  • import cards, this allows you to import dim/bem in the form of .bin files, you want to dump your cards before doing so
haughty quest
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Are secrets just the locked digimon on DIMs?

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And since Im dumping my own bins, does that mean my custom sprites will show in the app? Thats a nice feature if so

undone charm
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secrets is a key the VB uses to send and receive characters, it is inside the old VB app

undone charm
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and the sprites will show up

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also the evolution lines and evolution guides

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plus a working dex and you can also transfer across your adventure mission status

haughty quest
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Thats fire

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Do I have to be specific about using different base dims/bems? If I use dynasty of evil as my base twice will it overwrite whats shown in the app?

undone charm
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it doesn't matter which dim you use

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and as for duplicate IDs, the app will ask you from which dim the character is coming from

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and then it will remember for the next time

haughty quest
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Oh perfect, ez

cerulean wasp
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What to do when the apps say whoop?

undone charm
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Whoops it means an error

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During a typical transfer you will see the following in this order

  • success sending card
  • whoops

When you see the whoops, separate the watch from the phone and wait until the watch says touch! Again

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When it says touch, connect again

haughty quest
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If I attempt to send a digimon before I import the DIM to the app, will the mon essentially get deleted. Im early enough it ok if yes but I think thats what just happened

cerulean wasp
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Alright

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Successfully duplicate my digimon 🙃

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Thanks sir

haughty quest
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Got him back on my watch, but he de-leveled

cerulean wasp
haughty quest
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No stress, Ill get back to pulsemon then Ill switch to customs tn.

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Adventures within the app are what gives special items, right? Or adventures in app AND in watch?

undone charm
cerulean wasp
undone charm
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That I cannot tell you since it's essentially piracy, I don't want to risk bandai getting legal issues with the project

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(You can try, but in that case you are on your own, sorry)

cerulean wasp
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I see

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So for safety, just copy from my own dims right?

undone charm
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Yeah, those are guaranteed to work

cerulean wasp
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Alright, thank you so much sir

half sparrow
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Also glad to see you are almost done with your work stuff! Excited for when you make the new update : ) hope you're doing well and been loving the app in its current stage !

balmy wing
balmy wing
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nevermind I think I just missed the dim insert screen, will try when I have my dim on hand

balmy wing
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yeah it still says whoops even doing the right process...

balmy wing
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okay so i suspected the special missions item caused something to break, so i spawned a new in-training from an egg, edited the app data in an sqlite editor and transferred all the information from the previous digimon into the new one, and that worked to transfer it back 💀

rare saffronBOT
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SHINKA!

@balmy wing has evolved into Baby II!

wheat totem
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hey can anyone help with installing this? im super lost

merry cave
rare saffronBOT
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SHINKA!

@merry cave has evolved into Baby I!

grave mantle
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Okay I'm having a weird annoying issue. I had a Coronamon on my VBBE, had transferred him over from another BE no problem. I needed to use an item on him so I transferred him to the app and used the 60 minute full training item no problem, but now when I transfer him back the app just says "Whoops!" and does nothing.

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This happens occasionally and I cannot for the life of me figure out why

grave mantle
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Ubnforunately doing a re-install doesnt help either

pseudo laurel
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Dont know what else i have to do

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When i try to scan my VH to the app it just start a random encounter

undone charm
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what do you mean it starts a battle

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you go to the connect screen and then when it says touch, you touch, then you lift the phone from the watch

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wait until the watch says touch again

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and when the watch says touch, you then touch it again

pseudo laurel
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That was a dumb mistake from me sry 😅

undone charm
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Nah lol, don't worry

undone charm
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And I just finished another contract, in 2 days I'll finish another and I'll be back onto this

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I can see already the end

haughty quest
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fire

last night
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hey all, coming to this super late, it seems. is there a public release yet?

autumn fjord
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theres been several

last night
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okay, how does one install this? it looks like i need external data, like digimon sprites?

autumn fjord
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yes! for proper usage of the app you will at this time.

last night
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and im also supposed to rip data from my Dim/ Bememories, VBM cards?

autumn fjord
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that is required

last night
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how am i supposed to do that?

autumn fjord
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check the pins in #modding_vpets

last night
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there... isint a lot being explained here

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is this going to get easier in the future?

quartz swift
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Just be aware that if you save your Digimon they will be deleted come next update until the update comes where data isn't deleted each update.

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So best not to import all your Digimon now

last night
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i get that i cant ask for Dim card data here. but i have no clue how im supposed to put together a tool to rip the cards myself

quartz swift
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It's a DIM programmer stick that you'll need plus a program called Mr. Blinky's DIM Tool

autumn fjord
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you'll need a programmer to read the contents of the dim card (either you can do this by directly connecting to the chip, or by using a breakout board to connect to it like a microsd card).
example budget programmers being: ch347 or ch341a

last night
autumn fjord
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hence the direction towards the modding channel for its resources

last night
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which im reading, but dont understand

last night
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linking me the same website im reading isint really going to help

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i dont know how to do electronics stuff

quartz swift
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It's simpler than you imagine. It's connecting wires to labeled pins

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Each board has named labels. You connect the wires to each label and you are done

autumn fjord
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👆
easier than finding a proxy to import something from someone's ko-fi.

last night
quartz swift
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Ya. No programmer from Germany is you live in the US cryogre

last night
quartz swift
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The links were cluttering up this thread. I'll just DM you the link to the right parts

last night
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i got them

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except the SD reader

autumn fjord
last night
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genuinely, thank you

quartz swift
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I must hone my linking skills, truly

last night
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btw, Helper is compatible with VBC cards, right?

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like Kamen rider and Ultraman?

quartz swift
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Yes

last night
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great

autumn fjord
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all cards should be compatible. think as long as they load on the toy, the app will also accept them. meaning even fan-made cards will work, as the app pulls from the uploaded card data and uses whatever is associated with that cards ID based on the NFC data that was transmitted.

fading grove
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seems like i cant send mons back to the vbs anymore, used to work fine with a custom dim, but today imported a bunch more dims and sent a couple mons both from be and og vb and all i get after the checking dims phase is a whoop, but the vbs go from touch to wait and then i have to wait until it fails, today i also tried for the first time to apply a special mission to a mon if it matters

last night
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i also have a Character thats stuck in the app ( from Kamen rider Ex-aid VBM, Transfered from BE) no items applied, first Card check scan works, but after the second scan, the BE just says Waiting until it times out

balmy wing
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any consideration of doing .json support for the digimon? i imagine it'd be easier to troubleshoot/backup/also import and export or even send 'mons to friends

undone charm
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I'm gonna add a way to export a log file in case of errors

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That'll be my number 1 priority

fading grove
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tried some stuff, deleted the dims and characters that had characters stuck, imported again a new backup, started a new character, sent it to the app and then sending it to the vb gives an instant whoops still on the second phase, both if i have to insert the dim or not in the middle, so i dont know what could be the reason here.

undone charm
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Might be an issue with the date or something like that

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As in, sometimes the VB can produce weird dates and it messes with the app

fading grove
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i have both bracelets correctly at 2025 10/30 and hour is correct

undone charm
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No I mean, sometimes the VB produces weird dates in the communication, like 0/0/2000

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At least my implementation might be reading them wrong

fading grove
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ah i see, is there any way to check that in app currently?

undone charm
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Nope, if you have android studio you can see the entire app database

fading grove
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i have it installed but i dont think i ever ended up using it

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did some more testing, deleted all imported dims, imported a custom bem, it sent back and forth well to the vbbe, imported a dim, started a mon from an og vb with heat/cyanic mod, sent it to the app and couldnt send it back to the og vb with mod, sent the first mon from the custom bem vb be to the app and it still sends correctly to the vb be

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started a new mon from that second imported dim on the vb be, and i was able to send it back and forth correctly, maybe there is a problem with the og vb

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i have a spare stock og vb, never turned it on so i dont even know if it works, will report back

last night
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Are you planning on ever releasing this app on the play store? I don't know if there's anything in the app as is that disqualifies it from being put on there, but it would be way easier to download and update if it were available

sharp nova
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If Digimon Unlimited eventually being removed from Google Play back in the day despite it being a free app is any indication the general idea is to play it safe and not bother with a Google Play release with stuff like this

undone charm
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and i don't think i'll ever get one

worn forge
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though that secrets section is also a big thing too

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still eh, dunno if it's worth the 25 quid to test the waters

last night
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Would it be possible to add Evolution trees to the Dex, even if they have to be made manually?

undone charm
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i can try

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i can make it look like the old app, but gonna be hella difficult for me to make it a graph like hummus

atomic rover
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This is completely random and is just a random idea that came out of nowhere, but do u think that theoretically one day that something such as exporting a mon from the storage using a code of some sort to upload to a webgame could be possible/easy to implement?

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For example, instead of exporting/transferring with nfc, choosing a mon and it outputs a code to use on another game/app/webpage, etc and then the same thing being done to transfer it back to the storage app.

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Or perhaps exporting a digimon as a file instead of a code so it doesnt really rely on some sort of server to interpret the codes between the 2 services for example, so it could be done localside instead of serversided

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then u could upload the file to use on something such as a webgame.

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I may or may not play a lot of webkinz and wish something like that could be possible with vb/be mons lol

neat plinth
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Is there a download link to VB Helper? I can't find it in the pinned messages.

rare saffronBOT
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SHINKA!

@neat plinth has evolved into Baby I!

balmy wing
atomic rover
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backing up mons manually with a file per specific mon would be good for backups overall + it would make it easier if people decide to develop additional games/apps which use the mons from the VB/BE through those files.

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The only thing is, afaik they wanted to do some sort of online functionality eventually, so it could cause issues depending on what the online functionality is meant to accomplish. Duplicating mons, sharing files for mons, etc would be kinda eh imo, but depends what they want to do with the app.

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Theres already an existing backup method as is (pointless using it atm until stuff is finalized as it wouldnt be compatible with new updates yet), although what I was more so talking about individual mon backups rather than database backup for ur storage.

balmy wing
atomic rover
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I just think itd be an amazing way to make it super easy to make additional apps/games which use the VB/BE mons

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for anyone who wants to develop them

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because instead of figuring out their own seperate transfer method from VBHelper to whatever they make, if VBHelper can do that step for them by individual mon backups with the mons data, it can be easily imported and built into the app/game being made by other developers to expand what the VB/BE bracelets are capable of.

whole kestrel
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no me convence mucho, por que eso permitiria que muchas personas tuvieran acceso a sprites personalizados y habria menor control y quisieran lucrar con ello y si bandai llegara a enterarse podria causar problemas

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y ademas de todas formas para pasar el primer digimon del vb / vb be a la aplicacion necesitaras el nfc

last night
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I'd love to see cross-compat with external games/ webapps, but I think that might be for later

Personally, I just want to see the baseline functions pollished, like sending non-BEmemory characters to the BE without getting stuck, or a second pass on the UI ( right now it's really hard to see the card icons unless they're black, and not all are)

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I've also realized there arent currently items that raise the stats for BEmemory characters

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It'd be nice to have those

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Maybe you could have it so the user can set the color for each of these tiles?

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That might help with visability

undone charm
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Noted, gonna get back soon to this, first step was to write a tutorial on how to use the app and dim cards, gonna upload that tomorrow to the repository

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Also have a todo list for next version pending

atomic rover
undone charm
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updated the readme with instructions on how to use the app

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read it carefully

polar sail
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Can the app be safely updated without deleting all your guys yet?

undone charm
polar sail
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👍

undone charm
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i'm gonna start picking back up all my projects tonight

merry compass
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Hey, is this available for iPhone?

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I do not have any android phones or devices with Nearfield communication hardware

autumn fjord
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it may only be eventually available for iphone under the following conditions:

  • apple makes developing software for iphone free in every capacity
  • apple enables sideloading globally (for universal usability)
  • paypal naca 1 million dollars
  • not requiring an iphone any apple products
merry compass
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Recently have eased up on which restriction on the App Store

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Also, I do not know how difficult is at the program for Apple products

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And this was five years ago

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This is the only NSC device I have

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My only option is to create one

whole kestrel
# merry compass Hey, is this available for iPhone?

No, ya comentĂł que por que el se necesita una licencia, permiso y ademĂĄs de dispositivos Apple ademĂĄs que la programaciĂłn que se utiliza para iPhone no es la misma no hay posibilidad de sacar la app para iPhone

rare saffronBOT
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SHINKA!

@whole kestrel has evolved into Child!

merry compass
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Hold on I have to translate

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OK

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I figured as much

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Right now, I’m currently trying to design the device after the conversation

whole kestrel
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Wouldn't it be easier to buy a used Android phone with NFC?

autumn fjord
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yes

merry compass
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Not in working condition currently

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Currently, I am thinking about switching from Apple to go back to android

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But with the new controversy around Google, who owns the android software

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They will be lacking down the platform

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Sorry for

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My kitten started flooding

autumn fjord
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looking at budget (walmart) (i assume usa) options, select motorola phones may have nfc functionality, and come with a pre-paid cellular plan while under $60, but carrier locked.
alternatively, a good amount of xiaomi phones should have nfc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFC-enabled_mobile_devices page is a little outdated but should be helpful in some cross checking for a phone with nfc

whole kestrel
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pawn shops too

merry compass
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I will look into the options right now I had to clean up

whole kestrel
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Dont Worry

merry compass
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The sink had a flood when I got back home

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I heard about certain emulator devices

grave mantle
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Unless that option isn't viable somehow

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I always tend to do it after I've sent a Digimon into the app successfully (and they don't jist fly into the aether mid transfer)

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There's also still the issue of using items on it causes the Digimon to be untransferable. I don't know if that was mentioned at all

undone charm
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It isn't viable yet, but does allow with some modification to be usable

grave mantle
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Ohhhh okay. Thank you for clarifying. This isn't meant as a "when" type of question but how difficult is the modifications for save data then?

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And will it potentially be a matter of an in app feature or something like sending the file to you for conversion

undone charm
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Modifications aren't difficult, it's an SQLite database, do if you know your way around Android's RoomDB ORM and SQL, you should be able to persist between versions

undone charm
molten zephyr
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Question is online mode gonna be on the app itself or on a website

limber inlet
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It's built into the app

molten zephyr
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Okay thanks

lime abyss
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Do you think this'll ever have connectivity with NacaFarm?

autumn fjord
molten zephyr
# autumn fjord

Tbh vital bracelet has different pixel art size + the stats are completely different

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So I get why

lime abyss
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Gotcha

atomic rover
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Custom OS are likely gonna be the way to go depending on how google handles the situation.

lime abyss
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Whoops

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I forgot to import my Gammamon DIM first

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RIP Gammamon

lime abyss
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The App's been unable to send any of my buddies back to the watch entirely now

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I guess I'll just wait until the next version

worldly lichen
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Has anyone tried using an android tablet with an external NFC reader for this?
Thinking about trying it as I have a tablet but no NFC, but if it’s already known to not work, what’s the point

limber inlet
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it will likely not work 🙁

undone charm
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External NFC readers don't work due to how android handles nfc

merry compass
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It must be permit own system

last night
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I'd like to see a push notification system for when characters complete adventures

atomic rover
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Better yet, if it doesnt use firebase

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Which it may not? Given its not gonna even be on the playstore

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Sometimes fcm breaks out of nowhere on my phone lol. But I believe I set up everything in the correct order so that it shouldnt happen anymore.

worn forge
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never quite like how many apps have broken notifications if you happen to have a de-googled device

undone charm
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Never understood how push notifications work. I don't want to use any external services, mostly because I don't want to pay for anything

sterile ether
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I'd love to be able to drop a digi on a BE from a VH and vice versa, but I know the coding from a BE is weird and different from the VH.

Obv no BEM digis, but regular vbms and dims, I'm not sure why they're not virtually identical (should've been something bandai did, but they've never cared about preservation)

cerulean wasp
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Its there a way to remove item that we put in digimon at app?special mission

undone charm
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not yet

atomic rover
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pretty much all I have is playservices with network perms and nearby devices enabled

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network perms needed for notifications :/

grave mantle
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An offline battle simulator that helps with win rate or hell even a win rate item reset would be kino. The former could allow you to Battle whatever you have registered as long as its from the same type of DiM, so DiMs can only battle DiMs and BEs battle BEs, but I could have a Monochromon from the Dinosaur Roar DiM battle some shit like Bulucomon from Blizzard Fang and it could count towards its actual win rate

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The Lab and Arena app had this of sorts in the form of traininf mode but it didn't count towards win rates iirc

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Itd help a lot since even eith mods the DiM Digimon struggle HARD when battling on a VBBE

sharp nova
grave mantle
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I doubt itd be too difficult outside of doing the battle programming. Lab did this with online when you'd fight other players.

sharp nova
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Plus it'd be neat if you could make your characters stored in the app fight each other (Even if just for funsies)

molten zephyr
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that would be perfection

lime abyss
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I have an issue now where when I try to send a Digimon to my watch, it makes my watch ask for a dim card insertion

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Then fails when I plug in the correct dim

merry cave
# last night Would it be possible to add Evolution trees to the Dex, even if they have to be ...

It's not difficult to click on the Mon you're working on to see the next evolutions on the VH Helper app - albeit it might take some brain power to make a mental graph - but it's just part of the fun and mystery when working on your characters.

For everyone -
Remember this app and coding is a big task load on @undone charm and they are doing their best to fix current issues and working on trying to get error logging implemented.

@undone charm please don't feel pressured or put down. We know you're doing your best with the resources - and we appreciate you for being such an awesome Dev.

worn forge
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do you have to ping 'em for that

lime abyss
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It fixes itself when I reboot my VH but it's still a little concerning

molten zephyr
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just like a game cartridge

spring herald
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So I'm a little late to the party; does this app work for custom Dim. Will it show the appropriate evolution tree of a modded DiM or will it show the original DiM that was modified? I'm currently using the OEM app to store my Digimon/get item and wondering if anyone suggest swapping over ASAP or if I should remain on the VB arena app.

worn forge
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It'll read whatever's on the files you upload to em, so any modded Dims will show as such unlike the VB Arena app

last night
sharp nova
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I haven't switched over yet and probably won't use it until it the VitalWear compatibility update comes out

north totem
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I'm using it to have fun, but can't wait for it to be able to be locally backed up for true immortality

slow wing
# lime abyss Do you think this'll ever have connectivity with NacaFarm?

While I think the projects themselves are better off separate, I do think once functionality is fully locked in with the app, once visual updates are able to be worked on, a Farm esque home screen with your digimon, or even just the active home screen being your digimon and a choice of its backgrounds that come with it's dim, and then an option to toggle between that and it's stats screen, essentially what you would see on the vital bracelet would be a very nice addition imo, and would help it feel more alive

lime abyss
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Make the app a place for them to chill while you bring two buddies with you out on walks with the bracelet

whole kestrel
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Una pregunta el oppo rrno 13 seria compatible con la app vb helper?

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O el xaomi redmi note 24?

undone charm
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si tiene nfc, si

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yo estoy desarrollando en un redmi

whole kestrel
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Gracias

rare saffronBOT
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@whole kestrel has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

stable moth
slow wing
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The app says battles coming soon, I have a question regarding that, essentially would it be a plausible idea to at some point down the line have leagues, like pokemon go esque, but for this it'd be evolution level leagues, that way people could have their favorites still have a chance of being viable in their respective evolution level tier? Essentially like for level 3's you have the Rookie league, adult level could be Champion League etc.

molten zephyr
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Idk if their already doing that tho

limber inlet
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the battles are separated by stage currently. it's probably the best way to keep the fights balanced. a "free" battle option could be added too to just allow any stage, but i imagine folks would just use the highest stage for it.

worn forge
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i'd sooner want those raid or forth (sic) battles back, but just being able to face a variety of mons is fine and good

limber inlet
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raids should be doable! their art assets aren't on any DIMs, but they can be extracted from the .apk

spring ferry
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Having raids back would be soo sic

atomic rover
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The top thing I want back is Raids

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Would they work differently? Or basically be a copy paste of the same system?

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Ex. Attacking higher level bosses as u kill the previous one with helpers sometimes appearing.

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Ofc, Id assume ud be making it from the ground up to not reuse code/assets

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And would it be on a rotation for new bosses showing up every week/month, etc like a rotation between them?

Having unique bosses themed around the current anime at the time would be cool given someone makes the sprites for them before it ends XD.

limber inlet
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i haven't actually looked too much into how they were working before.

my understand is that they were VERY high HP bosses not meant to be defeated by a single player. you'd fight it and then get some rewards, and then when it was collectively defeated, more rewards would be sent out.

i'm not married to setting it up that same way, but i also don't have any alternative designed out.

lime abyss
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Let us put in multiple of our stored digimon to fight a tanky raid boss

limber inlet
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sending more than one mon into a battle still needs to be added. i think vanguard/support are planned eventually, right now there's just one active

spring ferry
limber inlet
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oh that IS a cool setup. it makes it feel much more like a group activity then if you can queue up together.

undone charm
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aight, items store is working right now

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one thing less, gonna tidy up the dialog a bit more

merry cave
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@undone charm what Version is it? 6.1?

undone charm
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i think so

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This is what I have planned for next release

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Store is complete, gonna do the next thing, database migrations

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Gonna add too a way to export a log

autumn fjord
undone charm
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i keep all my todos behind my door

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Blurring out the contents of the notes

lime abyss
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The mysterious black post its

slow wing
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I just think it'd be cool to see ppls custom guys especially on raid teams

undone charm
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we will see, we are trying to avoid sending sprite data over the wire to get rid of as much issues with bandai as possible

limber inlet
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it might be better to talk to a bunch of custom DIM makers and with their approval, have them added to a "custom DIM pack" or something like that, that each person manually copies to their device. since we don't want to send the sprite over the wire, unless everyone is working from the same art assets, it's really hard to show the same thing on each client

undone charm
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maybe if everyone who wanted to help could create custom sprites for all the dims

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it's very far-fetched

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but it could actually allow us to have consistent sprites across every device while in battles

limber inlet
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it would allow for better balancing for customs too

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so they could actually participate

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and it not be 1 sided

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since we could bunch stats in then too

worn forge
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defo interested in the idea of a stat rebalancing effort, especially in the face of roided customs and genuinely questionable official stats

tardy ocean
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So i had no problem sending my digimon to the app, but VB helper keeps saying whoops when I try to send it back and it fails. Is there something im missing?

undone charm
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i need to add logging information and confirmation dialogs

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but let's go through the steps once again, i can't remember if you were told them

tardy ocean
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Nah im new here

undone charm
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when you send back a character, you first set the watch to connect, then click send back to device

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app will tell you to choose between "app to vital bracelet" or "vital bracelet to app"

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choose app to vital

tardy ocean
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Ah so its a little bit specific about the order of operations

undone charm
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when both say connecting, approach the phone to the vital, wait a few seconds. App will say "send success", and then "whoops"

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that first whoops is normal

slow wing
undone charm
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now wait for the vital to finish processing, you will know once it says "touch"

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when it says touch, approach again and wait until the app says "send success"

undone charm
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can't remember right now, sorry

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i'm not doing the battles part myself

slow wing
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So I guess my question is would everyone need to have the sprite data ALREADY on their app to see the opponent?

undone charm
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And the store is ready, now I have to implement in the adventure missions to award credits and when completing special missions

tardy ocean
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Yeah unfortunately on my watches end ut keeps failing
I used the original app as well when I got my VB

undone charm
slow wing
tardy ocean
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That's okay! Youre doing the lord's work here for us

slow wing
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I had this exact problem at first with whoops but I just applied order of operations and second tap is when u plug it in to the device and it worked for me

tardy ocean
undone charm
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i need to add confirmation screens during the transfer process, that's a given

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just like the old app

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to avoid this "whoops" thing

slow wing
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Okay so do the first steps of send to device, once you tap it once and it does the thing, I plugged in my dim and then tapped again and it worked

undone charm
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if it doesn't tell you, then it doesn't really need it

slow wing
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It didn't tell me but I had tried twice and it didn't work

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Once I plugged it in it did

undone charm
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tho it's a curious thing if it does end up working

limber inlet
# slow wing So I guess my question is would everyone need to have the sprite data ALREADY on...

yeah, the way it's setup right now, there's a python script that grabs all the sprites from the app's APK, and i copied that to my phone. the digimon IDs get grabbed from the database, and the opponent's data is grabbed when you select it with the button. that sets up the fight on the server. then each attack gets sent to the server, and the server responds to report how that round played out, reporting back on the HP

limber inlet
undone charm
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btw if you need the server deployed, do let me know, i have resources available in my new machine

limber inlet
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🙌 thank youuuu

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we'll definitely need to move to that. setting up a user auth system is next for the battles, so the server can know who is who

slow wing
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, then yes likely imo the best solution for custom dims is to have it looked over and approved, and assuming the creator of the dim is cool with it, it could be added to like a custom thing for people to download It could allow them to be playable, without worrying over sprites being sent online

undone charm
slow wing
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Or at least have the bin for it for the app to use

undone charm
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it's designed to work like social auth, only for naca projects

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works like oauth, but no one can create apps for it

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only i can

limber inlet
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that's perfect 😄

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and it's appropriate

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feels like the right choice

lime abyss
limber inlet
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the animations are definitely pretty fast there. feedback is definitely needed. i'm sure there will be a lot of stuff to fix.

merry cave
# slow wing It didn't tell me but I had tried twice and it didn't work

It also helps to make an export data copy when you copy in a digimon before using items or anything - lately if I encounter an error in sending back to bracelet after I use an item - (60m timer, specifically - it's only happened to the BE.) I just load up my saved backup data and send it back to my bracelet and send it to the arena app

grave mantle
slow wing
# limber inlet https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1325918718638948422/1429521613954482320/s...

Will the strong attacks implemented? Like when it hits turn 3 for example some digimon will do a more powerful attack, with a closeup shot of them cutting in for a moment. Obv functionality is priority, but I think those are part of what can make a fight feel impactful is knowing you have a strong attack coming up, and hoping your digimon holds on till turn 3 to let er rip. The sprites used for their attacks were ones I know are used for said large attacks, and I didn't notice any differences between them from watching a couple times

vernal leaf
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de donde eres naca? porque con tanto curro te mereces que te inviten a unas birras o algo asĂ­ jajaja

tranquil sorrel
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I've been reading through this thread for a little bit, and this is the most excited I've been for a fan project ever. You guys rock! One question: Are Digivolution paths saved to each Digimon? Like, if I have a WarGreymon in the Arena app and transfer it to VBHelper, will the dex recognize the route it took?

limber inlet
balmy wing
lime abyss
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Is it possible to export digimon individually?

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I was just thinking about backing up your Digimon saved in the app

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Like putting gamma.mon or agu.mon on your PC lol

undone charm
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i think i'll just make them export in bulk for now

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we'll see in the future

slow wing
slow wing
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I was also curious on if abilities will be implemented

slow wing
shrewd torrent
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let's go europeeps

grave mantle
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Small footage of it here for you

undone charm
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refactored some of the import card logic from the application to a separate class, now i gotta refactor part of the database to make querying less insufferable

dense drum
dense drum
undone charm
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Card fusions done

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I procrastinated a bit today

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Gonna push to main in a bit

undone charm
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reworking now the upload to watch screen, should resolve upload issues with the random whoops

undone charm
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i just realized

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there is no delete button

undone charm
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now there is

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and the double scanning issue seems to be fixed now

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i bet this is the reason why most transfers fail

undone charm
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and done

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it does weirdly get stuck after sending a character

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but it works

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i think i know what is happening

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and it's because the UI is not refreshing in time

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i need to adapt the home screen to use stateflows

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Nevermind, turns out I wasn't setting a flag

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Gonna commit to main

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gonna release 0.6.2 now, once android studio is done

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or not, gonna do it tomorrow

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forgot to add a way to earn currency using special missions and adventure missions

weak sail
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Still no iPhone support?

autumn fjord
grave mantle
grave mantle
autumn fjord
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nice (free to program for)

grave mantle
autumn fjord
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pray be the day apple isn't fisherprice

undone charm
undone charm
north totem
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It seems very difficult to transfer a mon back to the watch atm. It would be nice to have a forced gap between the steps until the previous step is fully complete and instructions, i remember the VB Arena made it kinda complicated but it did tell you what to do

undone charm
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That's fixed already

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That'll be the thing this update fixes

north totem
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Yayyy

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Excited to see it pushed!

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I have no idea why but I've cloned 4 mons from 1 card. The Palmons came from interacting with it from the main menu to trigger a battle. The Veggiemon was what I was trying to store and it somehow cloned.

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Loving this project

undone charm
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Clones should also be fixed with this

undone charm
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Active characters now display as such in the storage

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You also earn credits from completing adventure missions

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Todo, balance the items obtained

undone charm
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i'm still finishing a few things, but i believe the final model will be complete soon

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already exporting most of the interesting stuff from the card

grave mantle
undone charm
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I'll not exterminate existing clones

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But the database reset will

grave mantle
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OH okay

undone charm
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Sorry, I'm very close to finishing the database

grave mantle
grave mantle
undone charm
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That I want to do it next

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I'm gonna move away from my database thing to a json file

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I'm doing very weird stuff to move database across devices

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That or just export a character as a mon file

grave mantle
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I'm glad you gave us a save data export option, very smart tbh. That way you could write a function for conversion each time an update happens

undone charm
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I'm gonna create the list of things to do for next version

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And done

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Forgot to add to balance out the prices from adventure missions

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Also I need to back up my signing keys

merry cave
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Wooohooo yayy Naca!

merry cave
stable moth
merry cave
fading grove
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seems like it still fails to send back to the device most of the time in original vital bracelets

stable moth
fading grove
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nope, just sending a digimon to the app and then trying to send it back to the vb as it is

stable moth
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Sending from the app to my -Digivice V- (VB) took me 5 times until the digimon were sent to the watch with Vital Arena is 3 times. I think is not a fail it's like a verification message đŸ€”

whole kestrel
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Hola perdon me quedaron 2 dudas, primero ya se pueden exportar la info en la siguiente actualizacion apartir de esta? y 2 ya que habra misiones especiales como se podra obtener creditos si todos mis digimon son criados en el be?

gusty cloak
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@whole kestrel It seems that data deletion will be necessary again with this update.
You also get credits by letting your characters complete adventure missions or completing special missions in your VB
The update history contains detailed information about this update, so it's a good idea to review it.

whole kestrel
# gusty cloak <@1172769928596693025> It seems that data deletion will be necessary again with ...

Lo que yo me refería es que cuando salga la siguiente actualización la de la app es decir la 0.6.3 se podrå actualizar sin borrar los datos y con respecto todos mis Digimon fueron criados en el vb be y las misiones son para el vb/vh. por ello mis Digimon pueden hacer las misiones ? O tendré que usar el vh para criar nuevos Digimon para obtener los créditos haciendo misiones

undone charm
undone charm
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And make sure the device is fully ready, as in, once the device says TOUCH again after sending the card

vernal leaf
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muchas gracias por el trabajo naca, eres un grande. entonces con esta versión seguramente ya no necesitemos borrar nada a la próxima o tocarå borrar para instalar la siguiente y entonces ahí ya tendrås el nuevo tema de base de datos? estoy deseando probar esto junto con vital wear, va a ser un sueño hecho realidad gracias a vosotros

undone charm
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AĂșn no nos confiemos

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Me quedan revisar algunas cosas

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Pero se acerca

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Voy a hacer algo para exportar los datos del Digimon de todas formas

whole kestrel
willow night
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Buenas!!!
Primero de todo muchĂ­sisisimas gracias por tu aporte a esta comunidad, esta app es un tesoro para todos!!

Tengo una duda que no me termina de quedar clara a pesar de leer los comentarios.
Al usar "export data" podré recuperar mis digimon almacenados usando la opción "import data" tras actualizar la app de la versión anterior a esta o no funciona?

si no es asĂ­, se podrĂĄn recuperar usando esa opciĂłn en futuras versiones?

Por ahora lo Ășnico que se me ocurre es exportar esos datos en otro mĂłvil, actualizar el mĂ­o e ir pasando los digimon del mĂłvil al vital y de ahĂ­ a la nueva app

undone charm
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Ahora mismo como estĂĄ puesto el export data, estĂĄ para apps de la misma versiĂłn

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Tipo, puedes transferir entre 0.6.2 y 0.6.2

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La cosa futura que tengo en mente quitarĂĄ estĂĄ restricciĂłn

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Pero también quiero quitar lo del reset de bases de datos pronto

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Que tengo que revisar que cosas extraer de la base de datos

whole kestrel
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Puedo usarlo para almacrnar a mis digimon ya que la app de bandai esta casi llena

gusty cloak
graceful sequoia
whole kestrel
whole kestrel
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empezando a instalar para probar la app, un comentario en el anuncio me dice que la aplicacion es solo compatible con el vb/VH Âżno es compatible con el VB BE?

whole kestrel
undone charm
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Tipo, solo se puede sacar con root

graceful sequoia
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Ni con Adb tampoco?

undone charm
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Nop

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TendrĂ­a que verlo, pero no

graceful sequoia
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Si quieres puedo intentarlo, tengo justo la app en el PC a ver si saca algo

undone charm
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Se guarda todo aquĂ­

graceful sequoia
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Vale, voy a probar entonces a sacar un backup en adb a ver si me deja realizarlo con la Depuracion USB

undone charm
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Aparte estĂĄ todo encriptado

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No tengo ni la menor idea de cĂłmo se desencripta

graceful sequoia
rare saffronBOT
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SHINKA!

@graceful sequoia has evolved into Baby I!

undone charm
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Correcto, el backup estĂĄ false

graceful sequoia
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Lo que si que tengo el VB de Gammamon por si te hace falta algun dato de el o algo en un futuro que lo necesites

whole kestrel
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Perdon por preguntar no afecta en nada si cuando descarge la dim o be memory le cambio el nombre en la app?

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Tambien debo ponerle como guarde el archivo? Por ejemplo 01-Impulse City o solo el nombre?

stable moth
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No pasa nada, yo le he cambiado a todas incluso a las custom

undone charm
whole kestrel
undone charm
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Me encanta como hemos pasado todos a hablar español aquí

stable moth
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Lo siento me equivoqué, pensé estaba en el otro grupo

undone charm
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Xdddd

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Btw I'm gonna resume developing vb helper when I come back from Italy next week

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My laptop is not powerful enough to run android studio, and my laptop battery is toast

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Might continue working with nacabattle in the meantime, since it's something I can develop from my laptop

limber inlet
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make sure you enjoy italy while you're there! 😄

whole kestrel
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Ohh Are you going to Italy for work or vacation? Well, whatever the reason, I hope you enjoy the trip.

undone charm
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Kinda both

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Gonna go represent my university at a competition

whole kestrel
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Mucha suerte en la competencia

undone charm
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Grasias

quick tendon
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Link del app del vital hero

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Pls

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To install the mod later

autumn fjord
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apkpure should have one.

rare saffronBOT
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SHINKA!

@quick tendon has evolved into Baby I!

autumn fjord
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you'll still need an XAPK of vb arena if you have not fully set up vb helper.

quick tendon
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Could you tell me the step-by-step process? I'm Brazilian.

autumn fjord
undone charm
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the step by step is in the readme of the github

sterile ether
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Naca what programing language are you using for the app?

whole kestrel
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La transferencia del digimon a la app y de la app al vb Be funciono sin ningun problema

undone charm
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java's cousin in law

sterile ether
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Lmaoo

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That is a fascinating language oh wow

undone charm
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it's java, but with a lot of paint and glitter

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i love it

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you get the benefits of the JVM, but you also get the benefits of programming with a simple, easy to understand language

sterile ether
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Well hell teah

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Guess Java is my next learning hurtle then, Les gooo

undone charm
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java is an experience

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it's nice, but the fact that everything is a class, requires at least knowledge in OOP

sharp nova
# undone charm

Okay, so quick question. If you already have the final version of Vital Bracelet Arena (The offline mode update) installed, step 2 can be skipped, right? I'd rather not lose my characters currently in VB Arena if possible prior to the VitalWear connectivity update (At that point I won't mind losing my current characters)

undone charm
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I made a mistake, it's not VB arena, but VB Helper

sharp nova
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

graceful sequoia
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They are usually priced between €200-€350 on Aliexpress (I've bought quite a few things there and if you know how to buy, otherwise I can recommend it since I buy a lot there) and they are quite viable options as well as being small enough to take anywhere.

undone charm
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I need a laptop, rather than a mini pc

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I have a decent workstation at home

graceful sequoia
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Oh, I see, that would definitely be a bit over budget then.

merry cave
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Hey @undone charm new update hasn't had any issues so far - really awesome work and lots of kudos.

This is more a visual - for the next major update would you be able to change the 'delete character' to red?

undone charm
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Sure thing

merry cave
hasty pawnBOT
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Gave +1 Digi-rep to @undone charm (current: #11 - 152)

spring herald
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Where is the link for this app? I can't seem to find it in Pins...

autumn fjord
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oh my god these commit names.. 😱 almost as vague as brandai

spring herald
autumn fjord
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i don't even think naca can pin his own posts

undone charm
atomic rover
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U could add a checkbox for no confirm delete dialogue too. Always good to have UI options

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Like first time u try to delete a mon, it shows up asking if u want to, and theres a checkbox to remove the confirmation for future deletions if u want.

grave mantle
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Yeah the new update rocks, had little to no issues especially with Digimon being sent into the aether. Been using my Vital Hero pre Digimon Link mod. Say hi to Locomon!!

grave mantle
# undone charm Sure thing

I'll chime in as well with a little visual suggestion, but I DO understand if it'd be a tad harder to implement, but an indicator that a Digimon was achieved via jogress would be nice, maybe by having the 2 jogress components be semi-visible behind the end result like the example below (Its what I did to have Machmon become Locomon). Fine if it's not possible but I thought it'd be a fun little way to show jogresses!

lucid obsidian
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I was looking at this app and, meanwhile, congratulations to @undone charm for the work done, then, I still have to install it, to do that I have to uninstall arena first?

grave mantle
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I spoke too soon, I cant seem to send my Locomon back to my VH..

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Ended up having to delete it, idk why that happened

undone charm
undone charm
slow wing
# undone charm i don't think i can detect if the character was achived through a jogress

My guess is no, due to the mechanics of jogressing being kinda strange, since they don't actually fuse, the device just checks and sees if you have the two digimon necessary, one in the active spot and one in storage, and if you do it will evolve the active Digimon, but the other digimon does not disappear, change, or evolve, it just checks a box for the active slot digimon to evolve

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I know through the old app tracking Evo lines is possible, but I think it's just the one line, though maybe a workaround of if the evolution requires a jogress, you could have it show the necessary storage mon for the jogress to imitate what the person was suggesting

whole kestrel
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?

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?

whole kestrel
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que raro, por que yo no he tenido ningun problema

grave mantle
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I didnt have any either until I attached special missions to him before transfering back to my VH

whole kestrel
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fuera de la mision especial tiene algun item?

molten zephyr
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i'm guessing when battles will be back a discord can form

autumn fjord
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role named vital bracelet online battles

molten zephyr
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true

quiet totem
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is there a way to remove or cancel a special mission once it's been applied that I'm not seeing?

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also does it show only 4 slots because you can only load 4 at a time? I was experienting and loaded a fifth special mission and now my digimon won't send back to the VH

stable moth
molten zephyr
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i've noticed that the vh is better for transfers

wary maple
grave mantle
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My Locomon also had 5 rather than 4

deft fog
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Hi all, i've this vb and say error when i try to Connect with bvhelper. It's normal or i'm doing something bad?

autumn fjord
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is your app fully set up?

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and could you provide further diagnosis.

deft fog
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app fully set up yes, when i try to connect the vb with the phone the vb send mon but the app say this.

rare saffronBOT
#
SHINKA!

@deft fog has evolved into Baby I!

deft fog
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But app still empty and mon out from vb

whole kestrel
deft fog
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Entonces no sirve aun? Pensé que tenía algunas cosas activas

wary maple
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DeberĂ­a funcionar con el VB

subtle hamlet
deft fog
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I cant load Mon from vb directly to app?

subtle hamlet
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Once you import the card its from you can.

gusty cloak
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A detailed guide is available on the GitHub page, but as others have mentioned, you'll need the Dim card and BEM bin files.
The guide also explains how to dump the data.

grand shale
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Aren't you supossed to have the DIMs anyways?

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Even with the bin files you can't do anything without authenticating them with the DIM cards and a VB

molten zephyr
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Any news about the battle section?

whole kestrel
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Sigue en proceso

limber inlet
worn forge
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ah right, are we still at the point where databases'll need to be wiped with the next update

molten zephyr
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Question about the battle section is it gonna be the VBLAB battle system or VBARENA battle system

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I haven't tried any of the 2 tbh but VBLAB seems easier

whole kestrel
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Creo que estara basado en el de vblab

molten zephyr
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Idk how to speak Spanish or whatever it is

spring ferry
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Based in vb lab?

whole kestrel
limber inlet
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Right now it's just using the critical bar and attack button system from vb lab. When direct PVP between players is an option, it might need reworked to have the attack and defense phases like vb arena had.

wary maple
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I wouldn't recommend arena too much anyways

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The matches were like long AF

limber inlet
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yeahhh. we definitely don't want the matches to drag out. it should be snappy and fun

amber moth
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@undone charm I accidentally used 5 special training to my Digimon, now it's not transferring back to my vb. đŸ„ș

wary maple
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Is there a way to get more credits or that's there just to showcase items for now ?

stable moth
vital zinc
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Question about this, I still have the VB Arena app installed from when the service was taken offline. Its updated to the last version they put out. Is it safe to use that installation for VBHelper or should I grab an APK?

limber inlet
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you can use the same APK you installed with.

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2.1.0 was the latest

vital zinc
fathom oracle
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How to use the app

limber inlet
wary maple
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fairly easy once you have your rips

odd plume
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Can confirm. Got it to work quite easily today!

stark kelp
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(I cant find the og message but I think it was from @undone charm )

Response to your (alleged)
response:

There are special missions? The one feature that Bandai Namco forgot to put into the arena app? You all rock!!

undone charm
stark kelp
hasty pawnBOT
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Gave +1 Digi-rep to @undone charm (current: #11 - 155)

soft viper
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Hello, I'm new and trying to install the VB helper. It's just a matter of hours before my VB battery dies. I need to transfer my Digimon to the BE app, please help!

rare saffronBOT
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@soft viper has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

autumn fjord
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  1. charge your device
  2. read the readme
soft viper
west terrace
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The app is still in beta stages. There are still known bugs including sometimes losing Digimon in transfer, or sometimes not being able to transfer at all. Thus the disclaimer: "Don't bring over any Digimon you care about."

soft viper
undone charm
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But you can do VB - VH

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BE only transfers to another BE

coral smelt
#

Is there a video on how to setup the VB Helper app? If there is please send it to me I'd be very grateful

whole kestrel
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Una pregunta si un digimon se clono en vb helper afecta en algo?

limber inlet
stable moth
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MĂĄs bien me ayudĂł a completar la DEX xD

elfin mirage
whole kestrel
solar wigeon
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is anyone in trouble about sending the mon back from the app?

whole kestrel
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el unico problema que tuve fue la clonacion

undone charm
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will return to development once i finish a few features in nacabattle

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since i'm in the middle of project rotations

solar wigeon
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you got this and several college gigs to attend to

undone charm
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And tomorrow I gotta go create a business

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Gonna try to automate all my tasks, since I want some freedom while I continue with my masters

solar wigeon
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oooh masters degree ❀

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wish you luck

whole kestrel
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Me paso algo raro con la app de vb helare

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Tuve que cambiar de telĂ©fono y cuando pase la info y instale la app me salĂ­an todos los Digimon que habĂ­a puesto la app en el antiguo cel, pero no me deja sacarlos, lo volvĂ­ a borrar ponerlo pero aĂșn no me deja sacarlo asĂ­ que lo borre del archivo raĂ­z y volverĂ© a intentar instalarlo y ver si se puede transferir de la app al vb be

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El cel nuevo es un xiami rendĂ­ note pro 5G

whole kestrel
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Solo me sale whoops

whole kestrel
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Alguien sabe por que?

undone charm
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Curioso

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Lo probarĂ© porque justamente tengo el mismo mĂłvil que tĂș

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Que me compré móvil nuevo hace medio mes o así

whole kestrel
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Muchas gracias @undone charm

undone charm
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btw, forgot to talk about this (sorry life got too busy)

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i need to make a build

stable moth
undone charm
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lo mas seguro es que lo acabe haciendo yo

stable moth
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Grande Naca

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EstarĂ© pendiente de la prĂłxima actualizaciĂłn para continuar haciendo pruebas đŸ«Ą

solar wigeon
thin flume
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Question, can I export my database, update the app, the import the database to no lose my digimon?

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Or is the only way to preserve them to just

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Transfer to watch > transfer to VB Arena > update > Transfer to watch > Transfer to VB helper

undone charm
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Yeah, right now the database is not fully complete, so exporting and reimporting the database will produce the same error

dapper kestrel
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I might be doing something wrong. When I download the Arena app from Google play store. its not in apk form do I need a computer to make it into apk form?

whole kestrel
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para el apk debes hacerlo en la computadora o desde un naveador de internet

dapper kestrel
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Im at work currently so where would be a good place to get it in apk form

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So i can see if i could attempt it tomorrow

dapper kestrel
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Thank you

graceful sequoia
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Okay, encontre un bug y me hizo perder un Garurumon. Explico la situacion. Al intentar pasar de la antigua App a traves del VB a la nueva version, en la nueva estaba activo aun un MetalGreymon, al intentar transferir uno nuevo, me ha saltado como si se hubiera transferido pero no se ha generado en el Storage

stable moth
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QuĂ© dispositivo empleaste? Mantuviste el celular junto al VB o solo fue un toque? Te lo comento porque yo perdĂ­ un digimon asĂ­ porque lo retiraba muy pronto. A partir de esa perdida lo que hice fue dejar un pequeño espacio entre mi equipo y el reloj para ver que efectivamente se haya puesto la pantalla en gris del VB (osea que ya se haya enviado). He realizado esto con Digivice V (1.5) o su equivalente serĂ­a el Vital Hero y tambiĂ©n con el BE no he tenido ningĂșn problema

graceful sequoia
stable moth
#

quĂ© Android maneja tu dispositivo? Yo he probado en 3, uno con Android 16, 15 y 13. Éste Ășltimo me ha hecho perder 4 digimon de la dim de Espimon. Estoy esperando que Naca pueda sacar una nueva versiĂłn del app en la que incluya exportar logs para que pueda ver el comportamiento de mi equipo con android 13. Lejos de eso no he tenido ningĂșn problema con los otros ni con los relojes

graceful sequoia
molten zephyr
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Any progress on the PvP mode?

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Also merry late Christmas

solar wigeon
graceful sequoia
whole kestrel
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pues , yo recomendaria hacer una prueba antes de enviar al gun digimon importante para ti

solar wigeon
stable moth
deft fog
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Its says whoops when i send mon from app to vb anyone knows how to fix?

undone charm
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How are you transferring your character?

deft fog
# undone charm How are you transferring your character?

On the vb i select the option send (from home menĂș and tried from storage menu).
On the app i select app to vital bracelet.
NFC touch.
All ok, Dim icon on vb and Card ready on app.
Vb read the dim perfect and wait for NFC touch.
Confirm on app and wait for NFC touch.
Error on app and vb trying to Connect and failed.

Tried with two different Mons, one w items and one without.

undone charm
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is your VB one of the first ever made? aka the oldest firmware one

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it's because someone had the same issue as you and it seems to only happen in the oldest of the VBs

deft fog
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VBBE Boku No Hero edition

limber inlet
undone charm
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Yeah, I haven't had time as of late either

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Felt like slowing down for Christmas

limber inlet
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time FLIES. it did not feel like a few weeks hahaha

frigid spruce
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Out of curiosity, what IDE do you prefer for Kotlin?

undone charm
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i use android studio normally

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runs in my home server and i just x11 forward to it

molten zephyr
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it WAS the holidays so take your time

molten zephyr
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I'm honestly excited for PvP mode

limber inlet
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testing should be able to start very soon

undone charm
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I'm also gonna switch back to developing vb helper soon, been doing Nacabattle

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Now once I finish the exams

woven zealot
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can't wait to play PVP mode of BE

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đŸ„Č

molten zephyr
waxen geyser
elfin mirage
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I imported my Impulse City (DiM Card) into the app and am testing it with VBDM and VH.

The VB Arena (VBDM) > VBDM > VB Helper > VH > VB Arena (VH) experience seems to be 100% functional (I'm still testing the loss of the of Adventure mode's Red Flag).

Does anyone know what happens to a Digimon that was born from a VBBE and tries to be transferred to another model (VH, for example) using VB Helper?

rare saffronBOT
#
SHINKA!

@elfin mirage has evolved into Baby I!

whole kestrel
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Yo use el be y funcionaba solamente en el nuevo cel no podia regresar a los digis al vb be

stable moth
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Seguro tenĂ­an las 4 misiones para realizar, una sola vez no me permitiĂł enviar el digimon al app aunque fue con un digi del VB/VH. En elBE no he tenido ningĂșn problema

whole kestrel
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No habia enviado a ningun digimon de mision, ademas yo utilizo el be, antes utilizaba un telefono samsun pero reciente mente cambie al xiaomi redmi note 14 pro 5g y probe la ultima version de la app y no me dejaba sacar al digimon siempre salia oops

stable moth
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Qué raro, eso me sucedía en la versión 0.6.1 en mi Xiaomi Redmi Note 13 Pro 5G (garnet) xD que tiene una custom rom de android 16 pero incluso con la stock rom tenía problemas pero para mí que era por el chip NFC del celular que se calentaba. Como le dedicaba un par de horas al testeo (con el BE) los enviaba y regresaba al reloj constantemente hasta que después de media hora o menos a veces ya no enviaba (aparecía el mensaje de "whoops"). Para que suceda ello le daba al digimon objetos de acortamiento del tiempo, les subía los puntos vitales, y muchas peleas

whole kestrel
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Yo lo probe ysando digimon de etapa baby 1

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De hecho probe la app de arena y ni asi

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Se ppdian regresar solo enviar

stable moth
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Mmm si probaste con el app oficial y ni asĂ­ podĂ­a regresar al vital hero pensarĂ­a que se ha soltado internamente algĂșn pin de la antena. Te dirĂ­a que borres los datos del app pero mĂĄs pareciera que se soltĂł de la placa

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mejor espera a que Naca saque la siguiente versiĂłn si igual se borrarĂĄn los datos mejor que sea por una actualizaciĂłn

whole kestrel
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Use rl vital bracelet be

molten zephyr
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Any news?

undone charm
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I plan on returning soon, once I'm done with my exams

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Gonna also finish a few things related to NacaBattle before switching

whole kestrel
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los esperamos con ansias

limber inlet
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i'm workin on getting the networking/infrastructure set up for the server to be publicly accessible currently. i just received all the networking info after it was provisioned

grave mantle
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Any news on bringing back digimon from older saves to newer versions? I miss my pals

undone charm
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i haven't made migrations, but i can manually transition your save to the latest

grave mantle
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Id have to check

undone charm
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yeah i can

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will do it tomorrow, it's 2:44

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just send me the db in dms and i'll merge it for you

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the db being the vbhelper file from exporting the save

grave mantle
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Oh I even have a bugged Dokimon that I wanna keep cause he just spawned outta nowhere

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Please dont kill him he's just a guy

undone charm
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lol

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sure i guess

grave mantle
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Idek how he emerged. I was transfering a BE Digimon and the app had a hiccup and spawned him out of nowhere.

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Its like an actual Digimon

grave mantle
hasty pawnBOT
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Gave +1 Digi-rep to @undone charm (current: #11 - 158)

odd plume
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Can't wait for the pvp update. Would be the perfect incentive for me to further train my mons.

Having said that: super happy with the app as it is. Thank you @undone charm and @limber inlet for the awesome work so far ❀

hasty pawnBOT
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Gave +1 Digi-rep to @limber inlet (current: #103 - 19)

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Gave +1 Digi-rep to @undone charm (current: #11 - 159)

whole kestrel
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Ya tengo a vatios digimon listos para el pvp

waxen geyser
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For the VB Helper do I just need the Arena APK to extract the file(to install secret file thing on Helper) or do I also need to install Arena also?

undone charm
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Only the APK, you don't have to install it

waxen geyser
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Ah cool so it's just for the secret file

ornate stump
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Did I do something wrong? I tried to send my digimon to the VB Helper and it acts like it sends from the Vital Hero, but doesn't go through the app, which said something like it couldn't read the DiM or something like that.

rare saffronBOT
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@ornate stump has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

undone charm
ornate stump
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I did not. I'll look into doing that. Thank you.

deft fog
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@undone charm Naca, silly question, but could the reason I can't return the creatures to the vital be because they're Dim and I gave them stat items? Could there be a conflict?

undone charm
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Which items did you give them

deft fog
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Time limit, i dont remember. But nvm, tried with a Fresh Mon and same error

undone charm
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can you send me your vbhelper file?

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you can export the data in the app, i can see why it's failing that way

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send it in dms

wraith grail
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Hey, does this work with the non-digimon collabs bandai did or nah?

autumn fjord
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you're uploading the card images as a resource for the app to pull from. so presumably yes. though i cannot recall if naca has stated support for the VBC toy itself.

undone charm
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VBC works

odd plume
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How do the app items work? Do you add your character to the app, apply the item, then transfer them back to your bracelet?

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And additionally: how do the special missions work?

molten zephyr
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very useful

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PS only for vh and og vb

stable moth
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yes, it's very usefull to reach the conditions to evolve your digimons

hasty pawnBOT
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Actually, the plural of Digimon is Digimones.

undone charm
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I'm going to return to this shortly, Im gonna finish a few NacaBattle things and I'll begin fixing bugs again

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And I want to ask a thing, would you like the app to motivate you more to exercise using your VB/BE?

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I personally want to be a bit more motivated, so I was thinking to make the app push you more to do exercise

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And I have a way to do so, with something like a streak

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So essentially, daily missions where you do exercise to complete

molten zephyr
undone charm
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Nah, log in streak would only be able to get achieved by exercising with a digimon in the watch

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Otherwise you ain't getting it

molten zephyr
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Fair

undone charm
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Imagine Duolingo forcing you to do french lessons, I'd force you to exercise or you ain't getting a reward

molten zephyr
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Lmao

molten zephyr
stable moth
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QuizĂĄs una pantalla con grĂĄfico de histograma de los ultimos 7 dĂ­as con los digimon que ganaron el mayor nĂșmero de trofeos (sus miniaturas en el histograma) y si nos desplazamos a la parte baja una especie de podio donde aparecen los 3 digimon mĂĄs trofeos o un resumen de cada dĂ­a con mĂ©tricas como los ejercicios realizados con mayor continuidad (AP, HP, BP)

undone charm
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sisisisisisis

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ya vere como hacerlo

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pero descuiden

strange kettle
worn forge
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please god enough digis have been lost to the vb arena aether,,,

undone charm
worn forge
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...hmm

grand shale
#

I like turtles 💀

whole kestrel
#

el problema es que en el be los trofeos ya no se pueden conseguir si se acaban las 100 hrs ademas que por ejemplo hay muchos digimon que tengo que no estan en etapa mega y tienen combates y vital pints suficientes si sacara trofeos eolucionarian y eso no quiero estar preocupandome cada determinado tiempo de evitar que evolucione un digimon

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ya que yo me auto aplique el desafio que cada digimon que tengo haga el max de batallas que registre el reloj que es de 999

lusty gate
grave mantle
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Some app-specific motivations too. Like a dailies list. Exercise, use an item, battle in the arena, do x amount of battles etc etc.

#

Lab would be a great template

waxen geyser
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Quick question, How do you earn store points on the BE? I know it says you can do missions on VB but that was removed for BE

undone charm
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i was hoping to do that using online battles once they become available

waxen geyser
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Excited to see the online battles, will be a nice revival for the BEs

lusty gate
waxen geyser
#

@undone charm I hope you don't mind me asking, What made you start creating the app? It's got to be a lot of work and technical knowledge so huge kudos

undone charm
#

tbh, the app got started after cfogrady and i started talking in private about the VB. First it was just about creating a library and parsing the data, in which i have not much idea since i suck at reverse engineering

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then once he had a working library, i jumped in and started making the app

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we would help eqach other during initial stages and then i kind of went on my own. Rn he's trying to add compatibility with the VitalWear to VB helper, so he keeps helping whenever he can

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then lightheel joined and right now he's doing the online battles part

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but as a motivation to help create the app, was mostly the existence of a library to interact with the VB, also because i love VBs still

undone charm
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We back

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I'm still going through the features I had parked a few months ago

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Which are these

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If everything goes well, I should be done with the database model this release

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And I can focus on bug fixing

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For some reason this part is so slow

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Maybe it's because of my hardware?

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Aight, first element off of the check list

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Gonna focus on the second element, improvement on the special missions part of the app

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time to connect my regular VB to charge

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still amazed i was able to fix it

molten zephyr
undone charm
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i don't think there's a need for a vb helper discord, i assume hummus doesn't have any restrictions against talking about it in #modern_vpets

hasty pawnBOT
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Gave +1 Digi-rep to @undone charm (current: #11 - 165)

undone charm
#

one down, time to go for a snack

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merged

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now time to go for the snack

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and let my home server cool down

undone charm
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guess my past self knew

undone charm
#

New implementation works

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Let's do some testing

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It seems to be working

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And it should be safer than the previous implementation

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It's perfect

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Gonna add a way to remove special missions next

autumn fjord
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i hope to get a motorola soon so that i can enjoy this app sometime soon..

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oh they have a sale. today i buy. see you soon zinokek

worn forge
#

one of us, one of us

autumn fjord
#

the checkout wont load 😱

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im trying i swear

worn forge
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...uh oh

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hope that clears through, never heard of checkouts getting borked like that

undone charm
#

I'm sorry, what???

autumn fjord
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it happens to me sooooo many times. im sure it's just firefox being firefox though. or the privacy settings in it.. i tried many things. task manager'd it, cleared cookies many times, hard reboot of computer.. but alas.. had to use my phone to buy

undone charm
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Andoooooriiiiiiiddddddd

autumn fjord
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probably coulda bought it at my local t-mobile store but i get the feeling they closed shop 'cause of the weather

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also didn't want a plan with it either TBF since i'm still locked with t-mobile on my iphone..
this'll get me to restart playing my vbbe zinokek i hope to hate it less soon.

worn forge
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...i keep forgetting there's more to use with this than the vh

undone charm
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Android studio, I hate you

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It unlinked my phone and my laptop and now it refuses to connect

undone charm
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well, so uh

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i fucked up

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i should have created signing keys from the very beginning, so to transition to the new signing keys you will need an uninstall. Again, apologize for the inconvenience, I promise this should be one of the final ones, since the rest of the stuff related to the DB model should be almost done

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i'm going to release a build of the APK using proper signing keys

undone charm
autumn fjord
#

oooooo ptbr translation

undone charm
#

you can do an en-us translation if you want too now

autumn fjord
#

you know i wont

undone charm
#

sad

worn forge
#

i did not know signing keys could expire

undone charm
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yeah, me neither

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i was using the debug signing key in android studio to make the app

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and that expires every 30 days

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so i had to make my own signing key

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yeeah, i'm still very fresh to making android apps, i've never had to publish an app in my life, so this is the first time i find out about it

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i made a backup of my shiny new signing key in my servers

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with this release, my next milestone in my bullet list is to finish the database design and make it definitive

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which should make it to v1.0

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or in this case v0.7

worn forge
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huh, never used android studio for anything more than generating keystores to export godot apps - and those don't seem to expire at all

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still, real happy to see missions more or less safe this time around

undone charm
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i was using the debug key generated by android studio, which does seem to expire every 30 days according to google

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the thing is that due to my workflow, i have never worked more than 30 days in vb helper in one sitting, so i never found about this

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BUT

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there is a workaround to update without losing your mons

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export data in VB helper, uninstall the app, install 0.6.3, and then restore data

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if i'm not misremembering, the database schema hasn't changed between 0.6.2 and 0.6.3, so if anyone wants to sacrifice their mons to science, feel free to do so

worn forge
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mm, been keeping a select few mons on my vh's and sometimes vb arena anyhow

undone charm
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i'm dreading the day when i decide to transfer all my mons outside of VB arena

whole kestrel
rare saffronBOT
#

@whole kestrel has leveled up! (4 ➜ 5)

lusty gate
whole kestrel
#

probare la nueva actualizacion espero que funcione la transferencia en el nuevo cel

lusty gate
#

Buena suerte

whole kestrel
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Si, lo que pasa es que si lo pasa pero no lo puede devolver

whole kestrel
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No me dejĂł sacar al Digimon sigue saliendo whoops

undone charm
whole kestrel
#

Dímelo a mi luego compartiré una imagen de mi coleccion

undone charm
#

Mi colecciĂłn estĂĄ ahora en el mĂłvil de la empresa

steady oar
#

Hello, I'm new to VB Helper and I followed the guide but I can't transfer my Digimon. My phone is a Samsung Galaxy S24.

worn forge
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Your phone has NFC and VB Helper a copy of the Digimon's BIN, right?

worn forge
#

Hmm

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I got a Galaxy myself, admittedly it took a bit to get NFC scans working at first too

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Feels like you have to keep the phone on the sensor longer than you would for Arena

steady oar
rare saffronBOT
#
SHINKA!

@steady oar has evolved into Baby I!

worn forge
#

Huh, like an insufficient Android version?

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Can't think of why they'd bar you, or at least I've no clue if the Play Store one was taken off like the Apple one

steady oar
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My phone came out in 2024, it might be too recent.

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It worked, but only partially. The Digimon did disappear from my VB, but it didn't appear in the app XD

undone charm
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Did you import the cards?

steady oar
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I confirm it wasn't the right one

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XD

molten zephyr
steady oar
steady oar
hasty pawnBOT
#

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @molten zephyr (current: #738 - 1)

undone charm
#

Overthrow the French!1!!1!!!!

molten zephyr
undone charm
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I'm from the neighboring country

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Right below France

molten zephyr
undone charm
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Basically your neighbor

steady oar
undone charm
#

Si

steady oar
#

It worked with the correct .bin file.

deft fog
undone charm
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Y aĂșn no me acuerdo

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Porque lo escribĂ­ hace 4 meses

autumn fjord
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i forgot about the dumping cards part when it came to using the app.. snap and i removed ch347 from my aliexpress order since i wanted to just go-ahead with a t48..
(its not like i didnt order the other stuff for dumping the card, just not the programmer itself)

lusty gate
rare saffronBOT
#
SHINKA!

@lusty gate has evolved into Baby I!

autumn fjord
# lusty gate What do we need to order to get the app to work?

android pie or higher OS, a way to sideload apps, an unexpired signature or whatever token that says the app is ok to install.
then you need to install the app, import the XAPK of vb arena (particularly of 2.1.0), and the dumped data of your card, for the app to use as a resource.

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at least that's as far as my knowledge goes, i'm sure i'll learn more tomorrow... and when i get my programmer..

worn forge
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i thought only an .apk specifically was valid for importing?

lusty gate
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Ngl I’m not too good with computer stuff but I’ll defo try it just confused how it call connects to the phone

whole kestrel
#

En mi caso Yo tengo el Xaomi Redmi Note 14 Pro 5G y me permite pasarlos a la app pero Por alguna razon siempre para sacarlos me saca el Whoops y eso que use la version mas reciente de la app

undone charm
#

yo tengo el mismo

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xiaomi redmi note 14 pro plus 5g lo que sea

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pero ayer probe y extrañamente me iba

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actualiza a 0.6.3 y pasame tu archivo de exportacion

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que dim es?

unborn creek
#

👀

undone charm
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didn't know thunderbird had support for webdav, so i started shoving everything related to my projects into my home server's webdav instance and, this rocks

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since i do emails in thunderbird, might aswell start doing calendar and tasks too

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i feel like i'm reaching old fart age where i have to have task management

whole kestrel
#

Las veces que lo probe fueron con 2 custom dim

whole kestrel
whole kestrel
odd plume
stable moth
undone charm
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i finally got myself a debuggable case of the failing to send character

undone charm
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i have no idea what i just did

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i had the same issue as "i cannot send the watch, the app keeps saying whoops"

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the solution was to do it while the VB was charging?

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can anyone with this issue try this solution?

whole kestrel
undone charm
#

cargando de bateria

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pero tipo

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to basto, que he probado 5 veces a enviar a mi wargrowlmon

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y las 5 whoops despues de enviar la dim

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entonces me he desesperado, he empezado a ver que ni el VB aceptaba ninguna dim

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lo he puesto a cargar, y he transferido mientras cargaba, lo he intentado de nuevo, y ahora si fue

whole kestrel
#

pero por ejemplo si es un digimon que ya habia estado en el vb y no te pide meter la dim?

undone charm
#

es ese

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aun estaban los datos de la dim en la memoria

whole kestrel
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lo probare con el devidevimon atorado en el nuevo cel

undone charm
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y si, funciona en el xiaomi redmi note 14 pro plus 5g lo que sea

#

lo probe ayer

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no entiendo por que fallaria

#

este problema va a ser dificil de encontrarle raiz

whole kestrel
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lo probare y te envio de nuevo el archivo

undone charm
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es esporadico, y se esconde cuando le intento meter mano

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anyway

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no update today, no real progress either

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i just updated the libraries catalog and cleaned up a bit the gradle part

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also increased the api to 36

whole kestrel
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No funciono

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Te mando el archivo haber si ahĂ­ lo dice

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lo probe en el Be

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pero es raro en mi antiguo cel si funciona sin problemas

undone charm
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Lo miro mañana, que ya apague para dormir

whole kestrel
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si ntp, muchas gracias

pastel junco
steady oar
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hi, is the item usage feature already implemented or not?

undone charm
whole kestrel
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Pero no pasaría igual en el primer paso para devolverlo al vb? Por qué cuando lo quiero devolver si pasa el primer chequeo pero el segundo es donde me sale el whoops