VB Helper - Replacement app for VB Arena | Digitama Hatchery | Page 2

undone charm Jul 26, 2025, 10:07 PM

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what do you mean opened in? am i in the future?

whole kestrel Jul 26, 2025, 10:27 PM

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perdon me perdi la version alpha de Vb helper es un apk? o necesito bajar otra cosa?

undone charm Jul 26, 2025, 10:27 PM

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es un apk

tranquil cipher Jul 26, 2025, 10:33 PM

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i'm having trouble when i'm trying to put the dim file it just crashes

undone charm Jul 26, 2025, 10:34 PM

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can you try to debug the application? you should be able to see where it's crashing using android studio

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tho i'll ask, which dim is this?

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out of curiosity

tranquil cipher Jul 26, 2025, 10:35 PM

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gammamon

undone charm Jul 26, 2025, 10:35 PM

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i have that dim, let me check

tranquil cipher Jul 26, 2025, 10:35 PM

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okay

undone charm Jul 26, 2025, 10:41 PM

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Both the dim and bem did import to me

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Maybe your dump isn't correct or something

tranquil cipher Jul 26, 2025, 10:41 PM

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oh

undone charm Jul 26, 2025, 10:41 PM

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If the error persists clear the application storage

tranquil cipher Jul 26, 2025, 10:42 PM

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i don't have the tools to get the bins

autumn fjord Jul 26, 2025, 10:43 PM

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🤨

tranquil cipher Jul 26, 2025, 10:44 PM

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like the data of the dims

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i'm just gonna redownload the app

rare saffronBOT Jul 26, 2025, 10:47 PM

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SHINKA!

@tranquil cipher has evolved into Adult!

tranquil cipher Jul 26, 2025, 10:49 PM

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nope

limber inlet Jul 26, 2025, 11:31 PM

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what do the logs say when it's crashing?

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is there a pop up to see info?

fallen tendon Jul 27, 2025, 12:40 AM

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I had planned for a P2P offline battle system. I want to do PvE at some point too, but as Naca said, haven't put too much thought into it yet.

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We are limited to the graphics from the DIMs, so we might be able to do some large sprites, or make the mechanics more interesting, but we won't be able to have more detailed sprites like the old app did.

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I plan to fix this eventually, but it's been a busy summer for me trying to save Faerun 😜

whole kestrel Jul 27, 2025, 12:49 AM

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entonces los sprites de las be memory no se pueden pasar toda via?

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 6:47 AM

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Las be memory funcionan

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 7:45 AM

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is there any dim sprite sheet i can look at?

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as in, which sprite is which (attack, idle, run...)

worn forge Jul 27, 2025, 7:45 AM

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undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 7:46 AM

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which is which

worn forge Jul 27, 2025, 7:46 AM

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essentially goes idle (2) - walk (2) - run (2) - train (2) - happy - sleep/down - attack - dodge

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 7:47 AM

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awesome ty

shrewd torrent Jul 27, 2025, 10:27 AM

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confirmed that it doesn't work for now yeah, did a quick test run with a test digi and it got sent to the app but it never arrived so don't do it with anything important. About to test the BE too

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 11:30 AM

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BE should work flawlessly

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Should

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Also about the VB not implemented yet, mostly was because my current VB was broken and the VB send is a bit different than the BE, so I couldn't reuse parts

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Plus that the VB specific data table isn't complete

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I'll see if I can get all of this going soon

shrewd torrent Jul 27, 2025, 12:29 PM

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undone charm BE should work flawlessly

confirmed 👌 i love that the transfer is also already waaaaaaaaaaaaay faster than the official app and doesn't require fiddling around with the dim in the vb

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https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfect-emperors-new-groove-very-good-gif-5346522

Tenor

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i know it's only alpha for now but it's already amazing work

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 12:49 PM

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Yeah, as of now it's very complete, but it's mostly lack of testing and some specifics

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For example there is no currency but the store works

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 1:03 PM

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im downloading android studio rn

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 1:21 PM

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in android studio, load the project, then down here you will get the following option

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in package, you have to set that

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also make sure developer options are enabled in your device

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 1:22 PM

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i'm on pc

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 1:22 PM

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yeah, that's on pc

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 1:22 PM

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oh

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it's loading

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 2:48 PM

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undone charm yeah, that's on pc

sorry to bother you but i've never used android studio

rare saffronBOT Jul 27, 2025, 2:48 PM

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@tranquil cipher has leveled up! (7 ➜ 8)

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 2:48 PM

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download the source code of vbhelper

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 2:49 PM

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okay

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done

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 2:49 PM

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great, open the folder using android studio

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 2:50 PM

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like this?

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 2:50 PM

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no

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green button, download zip

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extract the zip

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you will get a folder with the files you see onscreen

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 2:52 PM

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oh

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 2:54 PM

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you get a window like this

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 2:54 PM

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oh like this

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 2:54 PM

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yeah

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 2:55 PM

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okay what now?

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 2:56 PM

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bottom left corner

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you will see an icon with a cat

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next, on your phone, enable development settings

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 2:58 PM

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this?

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 2:58 PM

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tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 2:58 PM

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oh

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 2:59 PM

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undone charm next, on your phone, enable development settings

and i already did this

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 2:59 PM

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connect your phone to your computer

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android will say "do you want to trust this device for debugging?"

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 2:59 PM

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okay

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 2:59 PM

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click allow and android studio will sho your phone on the top application bar

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tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 3:00 PM

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okay

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it's still debuging i think

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 3:02 PM

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still setting up

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you can check in the bottom right corner

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you will see a blue progress bar

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 3:02 PM

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okay

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still loading

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 3:06 PM

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yeah, importing for the first time takes a while

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 3:10 PM

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oh

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 3:19 PM

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Anyway, gonna see if I can update the database models to support the VB data later today

tranquil cipher Jul 27, 2025, 3:22 PM

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okay

brisk hare Jul 27, 2025, 5:36 PM

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fallen tendon We are limited to the graphics from the DIMs, so we might be able to do some lar...

I wasn't referring to detailed sprites. I was talking about the battle animations that the original app had. I don't know how the app functions, but as we are importing the original app apk, technically we should be able to extract the original app's battle graphics right? I don't think Bandai would have removed it from the app assets, they just disabled the online servers I believe.

undone charm Jul 27, 2025, 6:05 PM

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they are there, but they are not as accessible as we'd like, since they are built for unity, and we'd need a lot of work to extract the pngs

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tho i'd say you better ask cfogrady

fallen tendon Jul 27, 2025, 6:44 PM

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brisk hare I wasn't referring to detailed sprites. I was talking about the battle animation...

This is theoretically possible, but if any of us knew how to get to these assets easily, we would have done it already instead of requiring DIM imports. I would love to see this happen in the future, but I'm unlikely to put in the time to figure out how to extract the unity assets from the APK. There are other things that to me take priority.

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If somebody else wanted to figure that part out for us, I'd happily make use of a library or contributions from another dev

limber inlet Jul 28, 2025, 1:43 PM

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it's a little weird to be able to actually see them. i've been able to extract the sprites from the .apk using a combo of AssetRipper and UABE. it's a manual process though and i'm not sure how it could be automated.

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i can document the process i've used.

extract the vb arena .apk file like you would a normal .zip file.
this will open into a few more .apk files named these:
-com.bandai.vitalbraceletarena.apk
-config.armeabi_v7a.apk
-UnityDataAssetPack.apk
extract those like a .zip file as well into their own folders.

open UABE, click file > open file:
path to this folder: VITAL BRACELET ARENA_2.1.0\com.bandai.vitalbraceletarena\assets\bin\Data

select sharedassets0.assets.split0 through sharedassets0.assets.split96

this will prompt and ask you if you want to combine the .split files

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the new combined sharedassets files can be opened with assetripper and you can click through to see the sprites:

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there are a few other sharedassets in VITAL BRACELET ARENA_2.1.0\UnityDataAssetPack\assets\bin\Data that also need to be combined with UABE before they can be opened in assetripper

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sharedassets3 has a TON of variety.

limber inlet Jul 28, 2025, 2:55 PM

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oh all the UABE stuff is redudant actually. assetripper can just open the split files.

limber inlet Jul 28, 2025, 3:18 PM

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ayyyyy. we may have found a way to extract the sprites. we'll update here with more info when we have it nailed down

whole kestrel Jul 28, 2025, 5:02 PM

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una pregunta cuando se actualice la app tendre que borrar la version anterior solo descargar y actualizar a la nueva version?

limber inlet Jul 28, 2025, 5:10 PM

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i think so. i don't think we have a way to auto-update it.

whole kestrel Jul 28, 2025, 5:11 PM

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no se perderan los digimon que ya esten en la app?

undone charm Jul 28, 2025, 5:21 PM

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actualmente si

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el mensaje de iniicio te avisa

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no guardes nada importante, que ahora mismo cualquier actualización se la cargará

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mas adelante añadire persistencia

whole kestrel Jul 28, 2025, 5:22 PM

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okey muchas gracias

undone charm Jul 28, 2025, 5:22 PM

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pero es que aun no tengo ni decidido cual va a ser el modelo final de la base de datos

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 8:37 AM

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i think i'm very close to getting VB to work

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anyone wanna try later tonight?

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i'm missing a VBScanScreen and move the current logic into a BEScanScreen to make it easier to handle, plus remove spaghetti code

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but right now, the app should now be able to read the VB/VH digimon and store them properly

worn forge Jul 29, 2025, 11:17 AM

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The original VB, right? Can't say I still have one

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 11:22 AM

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VB/VH

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Yrah

worn forge Jul 29, 2025, 11:25 AM

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Think I still got an unmodded VH, I can give that a test after work, or at least like 6 or so hours from now

quartz swift Jul 29, 2025, 12:00 PM

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Great work here. Just a reminder: the Digimon Link can be used to test if the VH VB works on VB Helper. The NFC logic is the same as the stock VH, which is why it’s fully compatible with Arena. So if the VH can transfer back and forth to the VB Helper, the Digimon Link will too and vice versa.

north totem Jul 29, 2025, 12:22 PM

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What is digimon link? Don't think I've heard of that project before

quartz swift Jul 29, 2025, 12:24 PM

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It’s a mod that makes the VB experience more engaging and includes a library of exclusive features. To stay on topic of VB Helper, if you want to know more, you can find out more here: #1369345299587268809.

north totem Jul 29, 2025, 1:13 PM

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Ah, i see! Is it compatible with the VB DM, or just the VH?

quartz swift Jul 29, 2025, 1:15 PM

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I'd be more than happy to answer any questions you have in the Digimon Link thread. I don't want to distract from the VB Helper topic out of respect for the project and its dev team.

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 4:12 PM

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quick question, i swear i'm not going crazy

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but does the regular VB have a second card verification step in the communication?

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as in, it does a check card, then a check card install and then sends the card? or is it just two steps and done

rustic gyro Jul 29, 2025, 4:21 PM

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the original app did i think

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at the very least, i remember the old app having more checks in some way

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 4:22 PM

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if it is the same data sent over in both steps, i think i have finished VB implementation

rustic gyro Jul 29, 2025, 4:23 PM

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pretty sure it's just tap, then wait then tap for the watch

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with an extra step if it needs a card

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 5:26 PM

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http://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper/releases/tag/v0.2-pre anyone feeling like trying?

GitHub

Release VB compatiblity · nacabaro/vbhelper

This version should add a few enhancements, but most importantly, it should add support with the original Vital Bracelet, at least I hope so, since I don't have any to test on.

worn forge Jul 29, 2025, 5:27 PM

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ahh, just got dinner ready

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 5:27 PM

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remember to delete the app data before updating

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it will crash if you don't

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i don't expect it to work first try

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do send me any logcat logs from the application to see where it's failing

rustic gyro Jul 29, 2025, 6:04 PM

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wait, so there's a public version of your app to try?

north totem Jul 29, 2025, 6:05 PM

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Very excited to try, won't be able to till tomorrow morning but I've got mons aplenny waiting for a forever home

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 6:06 PM

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rustic gyro wait, so there's a public version of your app to try?

there's been one for 3 days

north totem Jul 29, 2025, 6:06 PM

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eyeblur I missed the birthday!?

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 6:07 PM

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north totem Very excited to try, won't be able to till tomorrow morning but I've got mons ap...

do not use it as the final version

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please

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it's mostly a test

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right now every new release just purges the database

rustic gyro Jul 29, 2025, 6:07 PM

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will digimon get deleted with various updates if we have to delete app data?

north totem Jul 29, 2025, 6:07 PM

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undone charm __do not use it as the final version__

beta understood!

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 6:07 PM

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since i still haven't decided on the final database schema

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and it's constantly changing

rustic gyro Jul 29, 2025, 6:08 PM

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sounds like it's temp storage only

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 6:08 PM

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for now

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it's still in alpha and it's much easier to purge the database right now

rustic gyro Jul 29, 2025, 6:08 PM

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until a stable version i mean

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 6:08 PM

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ah yeah

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it's mostly right now for testing

rustic gyro Jul 29, 2025, 6:08 PM

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gotcha

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 6:09 PM

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but if it goes well, i should have items working fully in the next version, including special missions

rustic gyro Jul 29, 2025, 6:09 PM

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anything you want to be tested?

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 6:09 PM

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regular VB

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BE works

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it's just that i don't have a regular VB to test on

rustic gyro Jul 29, 2025, 6:10 PM

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i'll charge mine up

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 6:14 PM

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i'm going to try to make the next version persist storage

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if VB works, the current database layout won't change much

worn forge Jul 29, 2025, 7:37 PM

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All seems functional on the VB to App front, some oddities with the character menu height though

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Trying to send things back doesn't seem to work though - only seems to throw up "Whoops" bubbles on the app and FAIL on the VB (though it at least acknowledges card checks)

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 7:39 PM

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Can you send me the logcat?

worn forge Jul 29, 2025, 7:41 PM

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Where could I find the place to export it?

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 7:45 PM

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for that you will need android studio

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or adb

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let me see if there is an easier way

worn forge Jul 29, 2025, 7:46 PM

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Got both installed, might take a bit to figure either out

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I'll try the latter method first

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 7:55 PM

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sure

worn forge Jul 29, 2025, 7:59 PM

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Got a trimmed logcat of (successfully) sending the Dim to be scanned, but not the character

📎 logcat.txt

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Another logcat before getting off the PC for the night, this time staying on the Writing character screen with the Dim already on the VB, but scanning twice on the VB

📎 logcat2.txt

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 8:18 PM

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interesting... device is not ready

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quick question

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in the OG app, did your device need a 3 step scan process

worn forge Jul 29, 2025, 8:19 PM

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Seen that a few times on the VB Arena app itself, though I feel that's more a mis-scanning

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The method was just App Link - Insert Dim - try and fail to scan character

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It just fails outright when the Dim in question is already active

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 8:23 PM

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watch just says failed?

worn forge Jul 29, 2025, 8:23 PM

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Not immediately, it stays stuck on the first loading bar before that

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 8:26 PM

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from what i can see in the logcat, i can see that it's trying to send the character before verifying the dim

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time to check

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 8:45 PM

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no idea rn

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gonna see if i can hop onto a debugging session in a bit, if not, i see myself buying a VB to continue development

tranquil cipher Jul 29, 2025, 9:58 PM

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finally managed to make it stop

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 9:59 PM

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you should leave it to finish

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it does take like a good 5-6 minutes to download and build if your computer is fast

tranquil cipher Jul 29, 2025, 10:09 PM

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undone charm it does take like a good 5-6 minutes to download and build if your computer is f...

if not?

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 10:16 PM

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Longest I've seen was in my 10 year old laptop take 15 minutes

tranquil cipher Jul 29, 2025, 10:19 PM

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okay

undone charm Jul 29, 2025, 10:21 PM

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android studio sucks

solid wraith Jul 30, 2025, 1:34 AM

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Okay, I need help getting this set up. Is anyone available to help me get the scanner set up in Android Studio? I have my phone connected, but I can't load the app into the phone...

rustic gyro Jul 30, 2025, 1:36 AM

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what exactly do I need to import here?

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do i need to manually download bandai's arena apk?

solid wraith Jul 30, 2025, 1:43 AM

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Oh, wait, this isn't what I was looking for >_<

grave mantle Jul 30, 2025, 4:40 AM

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undone charm http://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper/releases/tag/v0.2-pre anyone feeling like tr...

Absolutely jumping in hell yea

grave mantle Jul 30, 2025, 4:45 AM

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undone charm http://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper/releases/tag/v0.2-pre anyone feeling like tr...

When it says Import Secrets, what does that mean exactly?

grave mantle Jul 30, 2025, 5:56 AM

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undone charm in the OG app, did your device need a 3 step scan process

For original DiMs yes. Arena does the same thing when you're in the DiM section of the app. For the BE they axed a step so it was a 2 step process

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 6:27 AM

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grave mantle When it says Import Secrets, what does that mean exactly?

Import the APK

olive thorn Jul 30, 2025, 8:24 AM

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I was able to import mons just fine with a VH/DLink but it seems like after successfully Sending card back to the bracelet, it throws errors on both ends during Writing character

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 9:32 AM

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Ye I got a VH on the way to debug

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At least the device does read the character correctly, so that means my database model might be working as intended

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 9:45 AM

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rustic gyro what exactly do I need to import here?

oops

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yeah you download the apk and import it

foggy igloo Jul 30, 2025, 10:33 AM

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its battle enabled? or only storage functions?

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amazing work. Thank you

limber inlet Jul 30, 2025, 10:34 AM

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Just storage for now.

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The battle client/server still has some work to be done on them to finish them up

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Don't use this app as a storage app for now for your mons yet though. This is still very much in testing

foggy igloo Jul 30, 2025, 10:36 AM

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nice, thank you

rare saffronBOT Jul 30, 2025, 10:36 AM

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SHINKA!

@foggy igloo has evolved into Baby I!

worn forge Jul 30, 2025, 11:32 AM

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Out of curiosity, does importing/exporting databases include both the characters and cards?

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 11:33 AM

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everything

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character, cards, sprites, items, adventure digimon

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it's like taking a snapshot of the app

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but currently it behaves weird

worn forge Jul 30, 2025, 11:35 AM

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Mmn

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 11:36 AM

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i mean, i wanted a quick way to get the database out without serialization, but it's difficult

rustic gyro Jul 30, 2025, 11:55 AM

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undone charm yeah you download the apk and import it

will this mess with the actual arena app data or will the 2 apps remain separate?

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 11:57 AM

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they live separate

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it needs the apk to get the decryption keys

rustic gyro Jul 30, 2025, 12:02 PM

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gotcha

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is apkpure a decent site?

tranquil cipher Jul 30, 2025, 12:26 PM

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rustic gyro is apkpure a decent site?

yes

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btw i've been waiting for 1 hour before i just gave up...

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 12:52 PM

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that's so weird that it takes so long to import

rustic gyro Jul 30, 2025, 12:54 PM

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got the pop-up warning me that the app was temporary when i tried to transfer and my digimon went to the aether

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 12:56 PM

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the popup shouldn't mess with the transfer

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are you using the regular VB?

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or the BE

rustic gyro Jul 30, 2025, 12:56 PM

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it seems like the app doesn't tell the VBH not to send it over

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yeah, i am trying the VBH

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 12:56 PM

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it tells it upon complete transfer

rustic gyro Jul 30, 2025, 12:57 PM

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also do i need to use a specific DIM?

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 12:57 PM

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no

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all work

rustic gyro Jul 30, 2025, 12:57 PM

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it says "card not found"

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 12:57 PM

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did you import the dim into the app?

rustic gyro Jul 30, 2025, 12:58 PM

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and then my digimon disappears from the watch

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i did not

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 12:58 PM

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you do so by grabbing the bin of that dim and importing it in the settings

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under import card

rustic gyro Jul 30, 2025, 12:58 PM

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if anything, having a failsafe against transferring digimon to the app without the card would be nice

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 12:59 PM

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i was working on that

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somewhat

rustic gyro Jul 30, 2025, 12:59 PM

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is there a location to get bin files?

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 1:00 PM

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you should rip them yourself sadly

rustic gyro Jul 30, 2025, 1:00 PM

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i'm sure you can't share it here, but i don't have a DIM card transfer

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 1:00 PM

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i cannot provide that info

rustic gyro Jul 30, 2025, 1:00 PM

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ah, i see

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then i guess i can't help much

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 1:00 PM

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we are trying to research alternatives, but it will take a bit long for a good alternative

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reading data from the app is vrey difficult due to unity's asset system

rustic gyro Jul 30, 2025, 1:05 PM

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i was also going to try one of these KR cards just to see how that would work

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 1:08 PM

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i won't go to your house to stop you, you can do what you want

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the thing is not sharing the files here

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nor saying where you got them

rustic gyro Jul 30, 2025, 1:10 PM

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i supose someone could DM me them or something but otherwise i will just wait until it gets to a stage i can help

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and stop beaming babies into the void

undone charm Jul 30, 2025, 1:11 PM

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no soliciting either, that's also a bit of a gray area

exotic drum Jul 30, 2025, 7:12 PM

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hey guys sorry for the question but I didnt quite understand how to install what on my smartwatch and phone to make all of this work. I just now got my package with my vital bracelete and my dimcard and I´m trying to familiarize myself with all of this, are there full on guides I missed in this chat? Hope someone can help me I wanna make it work

worn forge Jul 30, 2025, 7:14 PM

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Yo uh, you might be thinking of VitalWear instead
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ivory cape Jul 30, 2025, 11:17 PM

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How would I access the logs? I'm probably missing something simple

limber inlet Jul 31, 2025, 12:26 AM

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the logcat is the cat symbol in the bottom left in android studio

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you hitting an error?

ivory cape Jul 31, 2025, 12:29 AM

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Ah it's on android studio, my bad, thought there was a way to export them when installed to a phone

limber inlet Jul 31, 2025, 12:30 AM

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ahh. i think it can be setup to do that, but i don't think it's doing that right now.

ivory cape Jul 31, 2025, 12:30 AM

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And yeah I had an error transferring my digimon back to the watch but it looks like that was already discussed up there ⬆️ a bit ago

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It's all good, just wanted to contribute if I could, maybe I'll look into android studio later on

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Thanks for the info though

limber inlet Jul 31, 2025, 12:33 AM

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no problem! thank you for testing it out. it's good to get the feedback.

undone charm Jul 31, 2025, 6:40 AM

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At least right now reception is working if I'm not mistaken

graceful wigeon Aug 1, 2025, 4:11 PM

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fallen tendon This is theoretically possible, but if any of us knew how to get to these assets...

theres any tutorial about this?

limber inlet Aug 1, 2025, 4:15 PM

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there's no tutorials for vital bracelet arena specifically, but it's a unity game so normal decompilation tools for unity games work.

worn forge Aug 1, 2025, 4:21 PM

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something like the original devices' predetermined battles playing out on both ends would be fine enough

shrewd torrent Aug 1, 2025, 6:53 PM

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digimon link let's you train your digimon and change their stats but i'm not sure how viable it would be for the app to keep track of that 🤔

worn forge Aug 1, 2025, 7:01 PM

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Feel this and VitalWear ain't gonna acknowledge Digimon Link's features any time soon, not without a word in from Munch

undone charm Aug 1, 2025, 7:05 PM

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if they use the app reserved slots in the communication, i can store them in the DB and recover them

quartz swift Aug 1, 2025, 7:27 PM

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Thanks, Nacabaro gomawave 🔥 Right now we’re focused on getting the main features established for ver. 2. Once we can get past that, the plan is to look into attaching the stat gain value to the Digimon’s data and/or app-reserved slots. If it works out, I’ll let you know.

undone charm Aug 1, 2025, 8:41 PM

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sure

manic crown Aug 1, 2025, 10:01 PM

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Wait there's a download for this

undone charm Aug 1, 2025, 10:05 PM

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manic crown Wait there's a download for this

http://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper/releases/tag/v0.2-pre

GitHub

Release VB compatiblity · nacabaro/vbhelper

This version should add a few enhancements, but most importantly, it should add support with the original Vital Bracelet, at least I hope so, since I don't have any to test on.

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VB/VH doesn't work yet due to mysterious circumstances

pulsar shuttle Aug 1, 2025, 10:06 PM

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Truly they are an enigma

manic crown Aug 1, 2025, 10:07 PM

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that sounds ominous...

So just the BE then?

undone charm Aug 1, 2025, 10:09 PM

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Right now yes

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I plan on doing more debugging once I get my VH

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And I'm done with work, which should be soon

manic crown Aug 1, 2025, 11:08 PM

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Shame I have no idea how do do any of that. Got the og, VV, VH and BEv

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So I just made an APK of my installed vital arena app since I was having a heck of a time finding an APK.

To use the be/dims. I need to get the bin files onto my phone?

manic crown Aug 2, 2025, 3:03 AM

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Is it possible to delete bins from the app? Since custom dims will work so long as you don't also use the og right?

undone charm Aug 2, 2025, 7:28 AM

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That's an oversight from my part, will add it for next release

thorny trench Aug 2, 2025, 2:44 PM

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When I import card, vb helper will be closed directly. Is there any reason? I use Samsung S21 plus.

atomic rover Aug 3, 2025, 1:40 AM

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thorny trench When I import card, vb helper will be closed directly. Is there any reason? I us...

are u using v0.2?

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or v0.1

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v0.2 crashes on my S21 Ultra too

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but v0.1 works perfect

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Id just suggest downgrading to the earlier release if possible.

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Also, renaming dims doesnt seem to work as of now which is fine I guess though for now.

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I was gonna try out the transfer progress rn but LOL forgot VitalWear needs an update for transfers first as its not possible rn.

thorny trench Aug 3, 2025, 3:28 AM

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I have tried both v0.1 and v0.2, and they will crash

rare saffronBOT Aug 3, 2025, 3:28 AM

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@thorny trench has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

half sparrow Aug 3, 2025, 4:03 AM

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Is there a working build of this out?

thorny trench Aug 3, 2025, 4:40 AM

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After updating my android system, it can now be used normally.

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 10:21 AM

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update on the stuff

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turns out i was missing some functionality to show VB characters

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 5:09 PM

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Question

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Anyone with a Digivice V?

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The VB based one

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 5:47 PM

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And it works

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Anyone ready for a pre-0.3?

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https://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper/releases/tag/v0.3-pre this one should have working VB support

GitHub

Release Basic VB support, this time for real · nacabaro/vbhelper

This version has now basic VB support working. Hopefully. Tested on my Vital Hero.

worn forge Aug 4, 2025, 6:14 PM

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Mmn, dunno if this is because I updated over 0.2, but there's still VH FAILs and Whoops bubbles

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 6:16 PM

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try to remove data and update

worn forge Aug 4, 2025, 6:30 PM

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's no good, twice now it's sent a Dim successfully (with a Whoops bubble right under too), only to give another bubble and FAIL on the VH

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 6:30 PM

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istg it was working on my VH

worn forge Aug 4, 2025, 6:31 PM

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I'll fetch my unmodded one, see if that'll make a difference

limber inlet Aug 4, 2025, 6:31 PM

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did you import the .bin for the DIM you're trying to use first?

worn forge Aug 4, 2025, 6:33 PM

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Ish, imported an application database I backed up before uninstalling

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Everything's as it was then

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 6:33 PM

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ignore the export/import databases right now

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let me see if the main branch is actually working

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would be kinda hilarious if it wasn't

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android studio, please, work

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aight let's see

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it works... hmmm

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@worn forge go to app information in the settings

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and look for the last line

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tell me which version does it say

worn forge Aug 4, 2025, 6:38 PM

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Version Alpha 0.3

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 6:39 PM

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hmm

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clear all the data

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start fresh

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like real fresh

worn forge Aug 4, 2025, 6:39 PM

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All clear, just imported secrets and such

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Sent Dim successfully and Whoops again

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 6:40 PM

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yeah that happens

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now wait until the watch says touch agaian

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and touch them agaian

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the sent dim successfully and whoops at the same time is something i have to fix

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but shouldn't impact the process

worn forge Aug 4, 2025, 6:41 PM

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...think it timed out on sending the Dim

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Lemme try that again from the start

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 6:42 PM

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let me record a video

worn forge Aug 4, 2025, 6:42 PM

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Aight, didn't ask for a Dim to be inserted, but there's that second Whoops again

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Another FAIL

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 6:44 PM

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this is a blurry video

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i'm crushing it down to 8MB because discord sucks

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let's see how well this looks

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if not i'll upload it to youtube

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essentially when it says sent dim successfully, separate the watch from the phone

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and wit for the watch to say touch again

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then touch them agaian

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don't worry, the app does not timeout

worn forge Aug 4, 2025, 6:49 PM

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It's still FAILing even on a fresh VH, I'll keep it on longer during Writing character

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 6:49 PM

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if it keeps failing, send me a logcat

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to see where it's failing

worn forge Aug 4, 2025, 6:49 PM

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Oh, we're good now

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 6:49 PM

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let's goo

worn forge Aug 4, 2025, 6:49 PM

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woooo

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 6:50 PM

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i feel like at this point i could stop making weird changes to the database

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next version i'll attempt using migrations

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will avoid having to reinstall when i make database changes

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and next step: time to install the vital hero mod

waxen geyser Aug 4, 2025, 7:00 PM

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Hey Peeps, Sorry very new to all this, what is the VB Helper?

fallen tendon Aug 4, 2025, 7:01 PM

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Vital Arena app replacement. Still in progress... but storage at least is mostly ready

waxen geyser Aug 4, 2025, 7:04 PM

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Oh that's awesome!! Is there a website or something I can read about it?

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Just bought a VH & BE so it's wonderful news that there's going to be a fan app

limber inlet Aug 4, 2025, 7:16 PM

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there's no website currently. this channel is the main place to read about updates.

waxen geyser Aug 4, 2025, 7:18 PM

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Ah OK, was just curious what the app does, I did download it and followed the instructions to add the Arena APK extract

limber inlet Aug 4, 2025, 7:23 PM

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OH. right now it's just storage, but i wouldn't put any digimon you value in there for now.

waxen geyser Aug 4, 2025, 7:25 PM

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Okay 👍🏻 Looks pretty good so far, I see the battle thingy

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When I press the little gear icon on the dex page the app crashes though

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 7:27 PM

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ignore it

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it's supposed to be for testing sprite lodaing

waxen geyser Aug 4, 2025, 7:27 PM

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No worries! Kudos on the app btw

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You could teach Bandai a thing or two

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Managed to load a few Dim/BE files into the app from bins

light helm Aug 4, 2025, 7:57 PM

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undone charm Anyone with a Digivice V?

This ?

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 7:58 PM

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yeah

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try to see if it works

light helm Aug 4, 2025, 7:59 PM

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That tells me: Secrets not yet imported. Go to Settings and Import APK.

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 8:00 PM

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you hvae to import the vb arena apk

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and install the dims

light helm Aug 4, 2025, 8:00 PM

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Do I need anything?

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Ok let me search.

grave mantle Aug 4, 2025, 8:05 PM

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Oh will our rank from the VBDM/Digi-V- be able to be scanned somewhere?

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Since it was on the original Lab

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 8:06 PM

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haven't thought about it ngl

grave mantle Aug 4, 2025, 8:07 PM

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👀

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 8:07 PM

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i'm currently testing special missions

grave mantle Aug 4, 2025, 8:08 PM

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If you ever do do it let me know, as Ive been trying to find a way to integrade that into my own game. As in the game scan for your old rank

grave mantle Aug 4, 2025, 8:08 PM

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undone charm i'm currently testing special missions

Hows that going?

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 8:08 PM

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looks like the watch does accept them

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but the digimon link mod doesn't display it

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it does seem to be ticking on the background

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gonna also see if it accepts more than 60 minutes

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i need to earn 10 vitals in the next 120 minutes

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yep, it ticks

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only 2 vitals more

light helm Aug 4, 2025, 8:27 PM

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@undone charm well... i have a good and a bad new. The good is my Meramon have succecfull send to the app ^^ The bad is I'm a noob and I fogott to install the dim files so Meramon went into the corridors of time xD

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 8:27 PM

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ye that happens

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i have to fix it

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also another question

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back when special missions were a thing

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did the watch award the special mission result, or was it the application

light helm Aug 4, 2025, 8:28 PM

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Sure. If i can help.

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 8:28 PM

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because my digimon just completed the special mission, but the watch said nothing

light helm Aug 4, 2025, 8:30 PM

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I just need to find the dim files and a new digimon of course.

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 10:18 PM

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Looks like it was a success, guess now i have to implement special missions in the app

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i don't have a personal roadmap about features

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i usually will do something depending on how i feell that day

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another thing i want to get working is vital history, but i don't remember if the BE supported it

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if it didn't, it definitely would be cool to have it in the BE mod rollup

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 11:02 PM

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Update, it did award me the trophies

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I forgot how special missions worked after so long

grave mantle Aug 4, 2025, 11:12 PM

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Werent special missions gained from the app?

undone charm Aug 4, 2025, 11:20 PM

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I thought the app awarded the trophies

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That's what I wanted to know

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Watch didn't beep at me when the mission was fulfilled

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Maybe it's a thing from the mod?

grave mantle Aug 4, 2025, 11:23 PM

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It's been hella long since the Lab so damn I'm...not too sure frankly

ivory cape Aug 5, 2025, 2:27 AM

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Oh wow I forgot those existed

light helm Aug 5, 2025, 12:34 PM

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I can't install the dim on the app. I apparently found the files on Discord but the app restarts all time when i instal them. I guess I'm not doing it right. How am I supposed to do it?

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Or my files are not good.

undone charm Aug 5, 2025, 2:05 PM

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undone charm Aug 5, 2025, 2:32 PM

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Thy menu hadeth been polished

shrewd torrent Aug 5, 2025, 3:20 PM

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aw damg, new update keeps crashing every time i try to open it up 🤔

rare saffronBOT Aug 5, 2025, 3:20 PM

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SHINKA!

@shrewd torrent has evolved into Baby II!

shrewd torrent Aug 5, 2025, 3:20 PM

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yay

molten zephyr Aug 5, 2025, 6:35 PM

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Alright I'm just gonna say this I literally changed phones I got a android 12 and it still craches

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wait hang on

undone charm Aug 5, 2025, 6:52 PM

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shrewd torrent aw damg, new update keeps crashing every time i try to open it up 🤔

Delete app data

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undone charm Aug 5, 2025, 6:54 PM

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molten zephyr wait hang on

Maybe the dim you are importing is broken, let me try something

molten zephyr Aug 5, 2025, 6:55 PM

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it did say corrupted file

rare saffronBOT Aug 5, 2025, 6:55 PM

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SHINKA!

@molten zephyr has evolved into Baby I!

molten zephyr Aug 5, 2025, 6:55 PM

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when i checked the code

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god this is hell

rare saffronBOT Aug 5, 2025, 7:09 PM

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@molten zephyr has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

atomic rover Aug 5, 2025, 8:16 PM

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undone charm Anyone with a Digivice V?

If u still need someone I have a V

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v0.3 crashes for me

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merusleeper

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v0.1 worked fine but v0.2/0.3 crash on startup

limber inlet Aug 5, 2025, 8:18 PM

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did you clear your cache/storage when you updated/upgraded to v0.2/0.3?

atomic rover Aug 5, 2025, 8:18 PM

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clearing data seemed to fix it for now yeah

limber inlet Aug 5, 2025, 8:18 PM

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nice

atomic rover Aug 5, 2025, 8:18 PM

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I did that on v0.2 before

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but it still crashed

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hoping v0.3 stays fine

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gotta charge my V lol

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Dang my V might be in storage

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if u need someone to test I can go walk and grab it

undone charm Aug 5, 2025, 8:28 PM

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If you can, sure

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But it should work

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had too much ramen today, drank 4 times the amount of the ramen in water

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won't be sleeping early today cuz that

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time to get some music and finish special missions

north totem Aug 5, 2025, 8:54 PM

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Note to self... Fund Nacas Ramen addiction for coding stonks...

undone charm Aug 5, 2025, 9:11 PM

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these are the special missions i came up with

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longer ones will be more expensive, since they will be easier, but will award less interesting prizes

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while shorter ones are cheaper, since they are the most difficult, and will award higher prizes

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now i'mma try to get v0.4 before going to sleep tonight

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in theory it shouldn't be difficult

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famous last words

north totem Aug 5, 2025, 9:22 PM

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ineedthis

undone charm Aug 5, 2025, 9:34 PM

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north totem Note to self... Fund Nacas Ramen addiction for coding stonks...

nah, i prefer you fund my addiction to digimon plushies, i like to apply the rubber ducky programming methodology

atomic rover Aug 5, 2025, 10:25 PM

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undone charm If you can, sure

Gotcha. Ill go walk to storage in a bit and see if my V is in my bins.

I dont even really use my VV anymore bc I have WearOS now lol, but the downside atm is I cant transfer off of my watch atm.

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Unless someone else can make sure its fully working

undone charm Aug 5, 2025, 11:06 PM

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OH HELL YEAH IT WORKS EVERYTHING

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i also saw the watch award me the trophies

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gonna release v0.4

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missing the icons, but the missions do work

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added 9 of each too so y'all can test

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also this will require deleting the application data, since database structure was modified

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https://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper/releases/tag/v0.4.1-pre

GitHub

Release Basic support for special missions · nacabaro/vbhelper

Added basic support for special missions in the VB series. The app should also disallow you from uploading special missions onto BE characters. At the same time, I have given 9 of each special miss...

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NOTE: Before installing, clear application data if you have the old version, otherwise it will crash. You will have to import secrets and cards again.

whole kestrel Aug 6, 2025, 1:41 AM

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érdpn érp no he entendido como funciona la app con las custom?

worn forge Aug 6, 2025, 7:00 AM

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Still a lil curious how custom cards alongside official ones will be handled, at least until deleting them or changing IDs are possible

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 7:10 AM

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worn forge Still a lil curious how custom cards alongside official ones will be handled, at...

When scanning you choose which card you want to scan in as

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But I need to do that

light helm Aug 6, 2025, 8:03 AM

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The application crashes when I import the Impuls City dim. ( DIM_ImpulseCity.bim)
What am I doing wrong?

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 8:04 AM

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Might be corrupted

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Because I know that dim works

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Also would it be possible to give me a crash log?

light helm Aug 6, 2025, 9:11 AM

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I don't get any messages, the app just closes.

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 9:16 AM

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crash logs have to be obtained using external software, i'll see if i can add a crash handler in the app

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and export it some way

gray hamlet Aug 6, 2025, 9:17 AM

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worn forge Still a lil curious how custom cards alongside official ones will be handled, at...

Its a shame we cant add extra information such as a name tag for the customs. Even adding modded to an offical one for updated roster or template swap would make it easier to track.

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 9:17 AM

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but it just looks like you have bad dumps of the cards

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 9:18 AM

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gray hamlet Its a shame we cant add extra information such as a name tag for the customs. Ev...

i wonder, why is it not possible to have custom dim cards outside of the legacy ids

gray hamlet Aug 6, 2025, 9:23 AM

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undone charm i wonder, why is it not possible to have custom dim cards outside of the legacy ...

Im not sure if thats correct as Cyanic has helped with a custom ID for at least one DIM (The one with the Hedgehog Mon I forget its name or the User who made it).
But the Dim Modifier tool does require a DIM to use as a base so it just grabs the ID from that, maybe if the tool was modified to add something to let systems like this know it as a modified ID rather than Stock?

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 9:25 AM

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yeah, testing myself with a known invalid file, the app crashes

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so your dump is invalid

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 9:26 AM

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gray hamlet Im not sure if thats correct as Cyanic has helped with a custom ID for at least ...

no idea, but nonetheless, we will have to add a way to choose a card when scanning eitherway

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since there are a lot of dims that have been modified and use known ids

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i could use app reserved slots in the watch to keep inside the watch an in-app dim id

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so it only happens once

shrewd torrent Aug 6, 2025, 10:33 AM

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oh hell ye, VH support? Back to the digimon link we go

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it works it works it works uneedthis

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 10:59 AM

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yeeee

worn forge Aug 6, 2025, 11:07 AM

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if all else fails, could always just burn off the dims that arent gonna be used

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like what good is terriermon gp (or any preview/promos that only have a single line replicated fully somewhere else)

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 11:31 AM

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as an impmon fan i'm deeply offended by your comment

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also grabbed a few customs, gonna test this

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gonna see if i can have at least basic management before 16:00, because i have to finish a thing with my real work

woeful plover Aug 6, 2025, 12:10 PM

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As someone without an android phone (😔). Would this work using an emulator and an nfc reader on a pc?

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 12:18 PM

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no

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sorry

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you have to supply the name

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even long names

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 12:25 PM

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woeful plover As someone without an android phone (😔). Would this work using an emulator and...

try to look for second hand phones with nfc

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things such as the redmi 9c nfc should be compatible

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and it doesn't go for much

woeful plover Aug 6, 2025, 12:26 PM

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Ah gotcha thanks!

worn forge Aug 6, 2025, 12:27 PM

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undone charm as an impmon fan i'm deeply offended by your comment

no ill will towards the guy, those dims were just very stinky

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 12:27 PM

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woeful plover Ah gotcha thanks!

you in the us?

woeful plover Aug 6, 2025, 12:27 PM

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Yessir

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 12:28 PM

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don't get xiaomi

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it's banned in your country

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check motorola phones from tracfone

woeful plover Aug 6, 2025, 12:28 PM

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Yeah I just looked it up and saw the brand haha

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 12:28 PM

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see if any have nfc

woeful plover Aug 6, 2025, 12:28 PM

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I’ll look around

limber inlet Aug 6, 2025, 1:06 PM

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this needs lots of polish still. the battle client/server prototype is ALMOST ready for internal testing though.

molten zephyr Aug 6, 2025, 1:24 PM

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limber inlet this needs lots of polish still. the battle client/server prototype is ALMOST re...

That's good!

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I have yet to GET IT TO WORK

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It keeps crashing...

limber inlet Aug 6, 2025, 1:26 PM

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is it still crashing on the DIM import?

molten zephyr Aug 6, 2025, 1:26 PM

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I'm trying the new version

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Yes

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It does

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Idfk why it does that

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Heck I now have a android 12 and yet

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It still crashes

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Here

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 1:30 PM

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I'll have to add a way to get a crash log out of the application

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Hmmm let me see

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It's free to download

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Should be good for testing

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It should also be legal

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I assume, since it was shared here to the moon and back

molten zephyr Aug 6, 2025, 1:34 PM

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bad request

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it says bad request

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 1:35 PM

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Hmm

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How legal is it to talk about custom dims here?

molten zephyr Aug 6, 2025, 1:37 PM

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i mean we can also take it to dm's

young nimbus Aug 6, 2025, 1:51 PM

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i was also trying to download that one and i think a second he has posted, both came out with bad request and i have not been able to download the files

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 2:05 PM

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dunno then

young nimbus Aug 6, 2025, 2:06 PM

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undone charm https://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper/releases/tag/v0.4.1-pre

so ive just downloaded this to test it out, and sending a character to app works but when i try to send back to bracelet it give a little 'Dim sent successfully' notifications followed immediatly by a 'Whoops'

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this happens the second i touch the ncf reader together

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 2:07 PM

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you have to wait until the bracelet says "TOUCH" again

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first time it will say sent dim sent successfully and whoops

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then when that happens, wait for the bracelet to be ready again

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and then touch again

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hold it until the app says sent character successfully

young nimbus Aug 6, 2025, 2:08 PM

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let me try again real quick

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 2:08 PM

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undone charm

here you have a video

young nimbus Aug 6, 2025, 2:11 PM

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yea when i touch it the second time it gives another whoops, the watch loads for a min then says fail

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im using a vital hero an dinosaur roar dim

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 2:13 PM

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hold it for longer and put it closer

young nimbus Aug 6, 2025, 2:18 PM

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ahhh ok got it

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it worked

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 2:18 PM

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let's go

shrewd torrent Aug 6, 2025, 2:24 PM

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limber inlet this needs lots of polish still. the battle client/server prototype is ALMOST re...

yoooo

shrewd torrent Aug 6, 2025, 2:25 PM

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undone charm How legal is it to talk about custom dims here?

||not very legal, unfortunately||

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 3:28 PM

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turns out i was building with a version of vb-dim-reader that's not fully supported on all phones, thanks to cfogrady for pointing it out

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gonna publish a new release later

molten zephyr Aug 6, 2025, 3:55 PM

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undone charm turns out i was building with a version of vb-dim-reader that's not fully suppor...

btw it was me who helped out to get cfogrady to point out the error if i didn't have that error they wouldn't have found out and patched it

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with screenshots

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i didn't do much but ye

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just send the ss and they found it

gray hamlet Aug 6, 2025, 3:57 PM

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undone charm even long names

Awesome this feels like the best way to be to include customs or edits to keep theme seperate

molten zephyr Aug 6, 2025, 4:02 PM

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can i try making a logo for vb helper rq?

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even if it's temporary

molten zephyr Aug 6, 2025, 4:32 PM

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not the best but yeah

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undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 4:33 PM

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we kinda want to avoid other IPs in the app

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hence why the icons are so neutral

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but i do like that logo

limber inlet Aug 6, 2025, 4:39 PM

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^^^^ i agree with both. solid logo and we def wanna avoid IP usage.

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 4:43 PM

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gives the vibe the old VB lab gave

molten zephyr Aug 6, 2025, 4:44 PM

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should i just remove the digimon?

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Not the exact same but yeah

worn forge Aug 6, 2025, 4:47 PM

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i can't really think of any minimalistic icon ideas past the bracelet itself or a simple pulse

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text ain't quite the best idea either

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 4:48 PM

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i was gonna use this

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rotate it 90º

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and you got yourself a chonky VB

pulsar shuttle Aug 6, 2025, 5:21 PM

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Well here's a very basic placeholder using that icon then

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Here's a better aligned one

atomic rover Aug 6, 2025, 5:30 PM

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undone charm i was gonna use this

Dang I thought this was a landscape mode UI option

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XD

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I enjoy having landscape mode options and I think itd be great for showing off more during battles/raids/whatever new content gets added

worn forge Aug 6, 2025, 5:48 PM

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...thinking about it, maybe i'll just forgo official dims and use custom rosters off their backs

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Lemme whip up something that may or may not be infringy

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 5:57 PM

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got working custom dims

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how this works:

when you scan a character for the first time, the app will see how many times is that card repeated in the database. If there are more than one, it will ask you from which card is this character
when you send back to the app, the app will also send back to the watch a second database ID into the watch, with the card you chose
next time you send the character to the app, the app will not ask you about the card this character came from

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 6:24 PM

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https://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper/releases/tag/v0.5-pre oop new release

GitHub

Release Support for custom cards · nacabaro/vbhelper

This release adds support for custom cards. Due to technical limitations, custom cards have shared IDs with other cards, which means that reading a character from a custom card might generate an un...

worn forge Aug 6, 2025, 6:25 PM

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ay, looks like i'm picking up my vh for a good while again

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 6:25 PM

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i should work on the store next but eeeeeh

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i already explained that i am a free roaming soul

worn forge Aug 6, 2025, 6:26 PM

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Seriously though uh, cheers for all these recent updates

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Hope I didn't unwittingly make you get a VH too out of just not waiting enough during scanning (although mayhaps the rush was out of the last app's horrendous speed)

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 6:27 PM

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i got the vh to test

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But eeeh, yeesshish?

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But don't worry about it

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I get to play with digimon link

worn forge Aug 6, 2025, 6:43 PM

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anyhow uh, icon

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totally didn't just ape what the vb lab icon had going on

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 6:43 PM

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👀

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do ya happen to have an SVG version?

worn forge Aug 6, 2025, 6:44 PM

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Nah, could whip one up maybe later tonight or tomorrow

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Software/site I used to use for this kinda stuff's going defunct real soon

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Ah sod it, I'll do it tonight

hasty pawnBOT Aug 6, 2025, 6:46 PM

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https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/_XXXMfFzABGyzitbdPMUYWuFT1HIMJ8GwcWA0coLgos/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/761583977748103178/767820130234400798/unknown.png

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 6:46 PM

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wait

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before doing so, the countil must decide your fate

worn forge Aug 6, 2025, 6:46 PM

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ominous

molten zephyr Aug 6, 2025, 8:55 PM

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is it normal it says whoops way too much?

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 8:56 PM

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ye

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you are moving it away too fast

molten zephyr Aug 6, 2025, 8:56 PM

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oooh

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so i need to wait for the first whoops and then it's good?

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 8:57 PM

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when sending the card, move away when you see the whoops

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then waity until your bracelet says touch

molten zephyr Aug 6, 2025, 8:57 PM

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okay got it

undone charm Aug 6, 2025, 8:58 PM

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then get them together until the app says "sent character"

limber inlet Aug 6, 2025, 11:49 PM

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here's an update on the battle client with a bit of timing and UI adjustments. 😄

ivory cape Aug 7, 2025, 12:09 AM

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Lookin pretty slick so far, nice job

shrewd torrent Aug 7, 2025, 12:24 AM

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YOo looking sick

whole kestrel Aug 7, 2025, 12:48 AM

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perdon para la dims personalizadas que comparted Id con una dim original tienen un 50% de probabilidad de causar un error?

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o como funciona?

brisk hare Aug 7, 2025, 6:17 AM

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Is Vital Hero supported yet?

undone charm Aug 7, 2025, 8:09 AM

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whole kestrel perdon para la dims personalizadas que comparted Id con una dim original tienen ...

Te pregunta de que dim viene

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Mira el vídeo

undone charm Aug 7, 2025, 8:09 AM

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brisk hare Is Vital Hero supported yet?

Yes

brisk hare Aug 7, 2025, 8:10 AM

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Awesome Sir, Super excited about the next release!

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🙌

fickle knot Aug 7, 2025, 8:28 AM

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limber inlet here's an update on the battle client with a bit of timing and UI adjustments. �...

You should rip the old Vital App's battles UI Sprites

undone charm Aug 7, 2025, 8:45 AM

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we kinda wanted something new, we are also testing ways to load data from the old app

potent dune Aug 7, 2025, 8:45 AM

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Hey I wana get a vb but I don't know where to get them :<

undone charm Aug 7, 2025, 8:45 AM

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potent dune Hey I wana get a vb but I don't know where to get them :<

amazon.com vital hero

potent dune Aug 7, 2025, 8:45 AM

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undone charm amazon.com vital hero

Okay!

potent dune Aug 7, 2025, 8:49 AM

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undone charm amazon.com vital hero

Next week im gonna go get em (probably)

undone charm Aug 7, 2025, 8:49 AM

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very nice

gray hamlet Aug 7, 2025, 12:03 PM

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I remember hearing that at one point it was being looked to if the VB Helper could be used to send BEMs to Non BE like the VH.
Is there anything too this or just wishful thinking?

undone charm Aug 7, 2025, 12:14 PM

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it's not possible

gray hamlet Aug 7, 2025, 12:21 PM

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undone charm it's not possible

Cool I just wanted to confirm that a strange exploit had not been discovered to send them.
Not that most features would work without the foundation to understand them on the device.

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Will there be any separation on the VB Helper between BEMs etc so people with multiple devices don't get mixed up?

undone charm Aug 7, 2025, 12:29 PM

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i was thinking separating the adventure progress between watches

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but at the same time i don't think it'll be worth it

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right now with the way the db is set up, it does allow to sepaarate adventure missions

gray hamlet Aug 7, 2025, 12:32 PM

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Would BE trained DIMs cause any issues going onto the App then onto a VB rather than a BE?
Arena made you pick one and locked it in so not sure if this might cause some kind of corruption?

undone charm Aug 7, 2025, 12:32 PM

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the app forces you to transfer BE trained digimon to the BE and vb trained digimon to the VB

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since the BE has a lot of parameters the VB doesn't have

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and keeping them around will be a lot more difficult

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as of cross transfering, you can transfer a VB digimon to any VB, VH, VBC, Digivice V, so on

gray hamlet Aug 7, 2025, 12:35 PM

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Okay glad that is still in place, Id hate to finally be able to store my customs only to send it to the Abbyss by picking up the wrong device and transfering it there.

molten zephyr Aug 7, 2025, 2:19 PM

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undone charm as of cross transfering, you can transfer a VB digimon to any VB, VH, VBC, Digiv...

Wait wait wait since when was this a thing?

undone charm Aug 7, 2025, 2:52 PM

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Since VH was implemented

molten zephyr Aug 7, 2025, 3:04 PM

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undone charm Since VH was implemented

oh

whole kestrel Aug 7, 2025, 3:48 PM

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undone charm Mira el vídeo

ohh gracias y una disculpa no habia tenido chance de ver los videos

weak sail Aug 7, 2025, 6:13 PM

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How is progress going for this?

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 6:19 PM

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storage is functional to/from the app, but there may still be updates that require the app's data be wiped, so don't move any important mons into this quite yet.

weak sail Aug 7, 2025, 6:23 PM

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how do I download on iphone?

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 6:24 PM

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oh there is no iphone option unfortunately 🙁 apple requires payment and approval to load custom apps on iphones.

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and something like this wouldn't get approved

weak sail Aug 7, 2025, 6:24 PM

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what is this available on?

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 6:25 PM

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android

weak sail Aug 7, 2025, 6:25 PM

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is there another way?

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 6:26 PM

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there is not

weak sail Aug 7, 2025, 6:29 PM

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would an android emulator work?

rare saffronBOT Aug 7, 2025, 6:29 PM

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@weak sail has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

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SHINKA!

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limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 6:31 PM

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the NFC won't work unfortunately.

weak sail Aug 7, 2025, 6:35 PM

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how about computer?

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something like an A-com

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 6:37 PM

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we'd like to support PC, but it'd require that a custom NFC driver be written.

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NFC USB devices do exist, but they won't work out of the box for this

weak sail Aug 7, 2025, 6:40 PM

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what do you mean?

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 6:43 PM

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most computers don't have hardware that lets them read NFC which is the wireless communication method the bracelets uses

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NFC USB devices for computer exist, but we can't just buy one and have it work by plugging it in.

brisk hare Aug 7, 2025, 6:45 PM

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limber inlet oh there is no iphone option unfortunately 🙁 apple requires payment and approva...

Will anything like the below chatgpt suggestions not work to bypass the payment method thing you mentioned? Unfortunately, I am an android user and don't have an iphone to test it out. Really feeling bad for iphone users, seeing something so awesome right in front of their eyes and not being able to use it....

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 6:46 PM

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it would work for a week.

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we'd sign it with an icloud account and then 7 days later, we'd have to sign it again and release a new update

brisk hare Aug 7, 2025, 6:48 PM

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what about the testfligt thing in solution number 3?

weak sail Aug 7, 2025, 6:49 PM

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limber inlet most computers don't have hardware that lets them read NFC which is the wireless...

if a laptop had said hardware installed would it work or would you also have to program the nfc?

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 6:49 PM

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weak sail if a laptop had said hardware installed would it work or would you also have to ...

it'd still need programmed. and whichever we programmed would support THAT hardware

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 6:49 PM

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brisk hare what about the testfligt thing in solution number 3?

that's a good question. i'll read a bit more

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yeah the testflight looks like it requires a paid dev account

brisk hare Aug 7, 2025, 6:50 PM

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oh

brisk hare Aug 7, 2025, 6:51 PM

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limber inlet it would work for a week.

And I believe a paid apple dev account would also bypas the 1 week re-signing. Too bad it costs $99 per yr

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 6:51 PM

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yeah and at that cost, i'm just gonna go look for a less expensive USB NFC reader hahahah

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i'd rather buy that and make it compatible than pay apple

brisk hare Aug 7, 2025, 6:52 PM

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But @weak sail if you are too desparate then, I guess you can find maybe other iphone users in the server who're interested in getting the app and who are able to contribute money to get the total up to $99 for the paid dev account that you guys can share

weak sail Aug 7, 2025, 7:01 PM

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I'd rather the custom nfc than pay money

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yearly

brisk hare Aug 7, 2025, 7:01 PM

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weak sail I'd rather the custom nfc than pay money

Good luck!

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 7:02 PM

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i'm seeing what options exist. i do expect this won't be the last time this question gets asked hahaha

brisk hare Aug 7, 2025, 7:03 PM

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Is there any estimated timeline for releasing the battle feature yet?

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 7:05 PM

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it depends on how our internal testing goes. i'm hoping to get it ready for that testing sometime this week.

weak sail Aug 7, 2025, 7:09 PM

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I'm probably going to make a project to get other coders to help make this A-com model

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I'm thinking of calling it a V-com

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 7:15 PM

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if you make any progress definitely let us know. i bought a clone ACR122U to mess around with when it shows up.

weak sail Aug 7, 2025, 7:31 PM

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is it possible to download VB Helper on the computer, I'm gonna need it to test sending Digimon on it, also is it possible to digimon back from the app, should have asked earlier

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 7:35 PM

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https://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper/releases

the releases are here, but these are for the android app. there's no PC version. all the work that has been done so far has been to support android.

GitHub

Releases · nacabaro/vbhelper

Contribute to nacabaro/vbhelper development by creating an account on GitHub.

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you can "run it on PC" in android studio, but it's the same thing as emulating it on android, the NFC won't work.

weak sail Aug 7, 2025, 7:41 PM

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which part of the code decides what it works on

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 7:48 PM

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pretty much all of it is using the android libraries.

none of it was set up to target multiple platforms.

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getting it to run on PC with all the features intact would essentially be rewriting it/porting it

undone charm Aug 7, 2025, 8:21 PM

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weak sail is it possible to download VB Helper on the computer, I'm gonna need it to test ...

I doubt this will work on a computer directly

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Best thing you can do is to get a prepaid phone with NFC or a very cheap Chinese phone running android 9 or more

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I don't think android emulators are advanced enough to support NFC emulation

molten zephyr Aug 7, 2025, 10:11 PM

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i think i'm doing the app to vb wrong again

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like i tap "app to vb" then i put the vb to my nfc wait until it says whoops one time i pull the vb out and wait or i put the dim card then when i waited or the dim card is done loading i put the vb back on the nfc and "whoops"

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 10:25 PM

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does your dim import successfully?

molten zephyr Aug 7, 2025, 10:36 PM

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yes

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rn it actually did transfer maybe i's because of the phone that didn't turn off

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and on

limber inlet Aug 7, 2025, 10:39 PM

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oh did your screen time out while you were trying at some point?

weak sail Aug 8, 2025, 12:16 AM

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would a third party installer work to get it on iPhone, if it was programmed for iPhone?

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 12:19 AM

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If it was programmed for iphone yeah

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But we don't do development for apple, since you need an apple computer, a developer license and then an apple device to test it on

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And those are all expensive

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The license alone is 100 euros

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Meanwhile in android, you can develop the app, publish it separately, and test it all for free in any platform (windows, Linux, macOS, as long as it runs Android studio)

weak sail Aug 8, 2025, 12:24 AM

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and there's no way I can use an android app on iPhone and have nfc to work

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 12:24 AM

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Nope, not that I can think of

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Best you can do is get a cheap second hand Android phone to use with this app

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If you are outside of the us, Chinese brands like Xiaomi, oppo, poco, a lot of their phones have NFC and are cheapish, maybe motorola

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Inside the US you will have to check in your best buy/Walmart whatever you use

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Sometimes prepaid phones have NFC

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But they have to be Android

weak sail Aug 8, 2025, 12:32 AM

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by apple device do you mean like an iPhone?

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 12:33 AM

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You need an iPhone and a Mac

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And the license

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Because without that license you cannot side load and debug apps on the iPhone

weak sail Aug 8, 2025, 12:34 AM

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I have an iPhone

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 12:34 AM

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I don't, I have a Xiaomi

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Nor I have an apple computer, nor the money to get one nor the license

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Best thing you can do is get a second hand Android with NFC

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And even then I'd have to learn how to use swift, and sorry but that I'm not that interested in

ornate tinsel Aug 8, 2025, 12:57 AM

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Just wanted to drop in and show my support. Got a 20th anniversary DiM along with agumon, and gabumon DiMs that will get a second chance with y'all's hard work and dedication. Thank you fellow digi-destined 🫡

rare saffronBOT Aug 8, 2025, 12:57 AM

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SHINKA!

@ornate tinsel has evolved into Baby II!

weak sail Aug 8, 2025, 12:59 AM

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how do I open the code for the app?

rare saffronBOT Aug 8, 2025, 12:59 AM

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SHINKA!

@weak sail has evolved into Baby II!

ornate tinsel Aug 8, 2025, 1:01 AM

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Now I just gotta dig out my BE to make sure it's still working. It's been awhile haha

weak sail Aug 8, 2025, 1:06 AM

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can someone convert the code to work for a computer? That way I can see if I can get it to work.

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 7:44 AM

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https://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper

The code is here. There is also the library for the NFC communication in

https://github.com/cfogrady/lib-vb-nfc

About portability I don't know, since it is using Android's built in NFC, you'd have to change them with your NFC library's methods

GitHub

GitHub - nacabaro/vbhelper

Contribute to nacabaro/vbhelper development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub

GitHub - cfogrady/lib-vb-nfc: Android Library And Demo App for VB N...

Android Library And Demo App for VB NFC Communication - cfogrady/lib-vb-nfc

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 9:33 AM

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brisk hare But <@781988414400102431> if you are too desparate then, I guess you can find ma...

i'd not accept it tbh, also needs an apple mac and an iPhone, so rather than 99 usd, it's going to 2000 usd

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and even then i don't have the knowledge for iOS libraries/programming languages

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 9:39 AM

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weak sail I'm probably going to make a project to get other coders to help make this A-com...

I would say be careful with this. Iirc Windows has no native NFC libraries, and each NFC scanner is different from each other. I think the closest windows has to NFC APIs is the windows authentication, where it allows an NFC card to be used to login into the OS

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But even then, here it just uses smart card

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I'd love to see this for PC, so if you end up making progress do let me know too

molten zephyr Aug 8, 2025, 9:52 AM

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limber inlet oh did your screen time out while you were trying at some point?

No?

molten zephyr Aug 8, 2025, 9:55 AM

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limber inlet oh did your screen time out while you were trying at some point?

I think its because I move it by an inch that it said whoops while its still on the nfc

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 9:55 AM

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you have to put it really close

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i really hate the nfc

molten zephyr Aug 8, 2025, 9:56 AM

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I doing that

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 9:56 AM

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could have been bluetooth

molten zephyr Aug 8, 2025, 9:56 AM

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Wait what

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 9:56 AM

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i mean

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bandai could have used bluetooth instead of nfc

molten zephyr Aug 8, 2025, 9:57 AM

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Let me try smth

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OMG

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Its the f ing Bluetooth

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 9:58 AM

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that's weird

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what kinda phone do you have i swear

molten zephyr Aug 8, 2025, 9:58 AM

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Deactivated Bluetooth then do the process

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That's IT

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I swear to god...

molten zephyr Aug 8, 2025, 9:59 AM

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undone charm what kinda phone do you have i swear

Idek man

woeful plover Aug 8, 2025, 10:33 AM

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weak sail and there's no way I can use an android app on iPhone and have nfc to work

Like nacabaro said you can get a cheap android to use. If you’re US based I’ve found some prepaid phones with NFC for like $50 and you don’t need a service plan just use it only on WiFi.

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 11:11 AM

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Now just get a case and make it look like a Digivice

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zinokek

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 11:45 AM

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also gonna stop for a week completely

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since i'll be going on holiday

woeful plover Aug 8, 2025, 12:32 PM

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undone charm Now just get a case and make it look like a Digivice

Legit that’ll be it’s only purpose haha

quaint valve Aug 8, 2025, 12:47 PM

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Any info on the possibilities of an iOS version?

rare saffronBOT Aug 8, 2025, 12:47 PM

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SHINKA!

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undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 12:49 PM

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quaint valve Any info on the possibilities of an iOS version?

There won't be

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Essentially it's too costly and we have to bend down to Apple

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And redo the code using swift from the beginning

quaint valve Aug 8, 2025, 12:53 PM

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-cries in iPhone user-

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 12:55 PM

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quaint valve *-cries in iPhone user-*

If you are in the EU, you can get Chinese NFC Android phones for less than 60 euros (Xiaomi, poco, OPPO)

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If you are in the US, TracFone sells very cheap Motorola Androids with NFC

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Just look for Google Pay support

quaint valve Aug 8, 2025, 12:57 PM

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undone charm If you are in the EU, you can get Chinese NFC Android phones for less than 60 eu...

Oh I am, I'm your country neighbor even xD

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 12:57 PM

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Oh look in Wallapop/vinted

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I've seen a Redmi note 10s(the same phone I'm using to develop and test) for 55 eurod

quaint valve Aug 8, 2025, 12:58 PM

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I used to have one of those actually

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I'll have to look into snagging an android phone then

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 12:58 PM

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I have like 7 Android phones

quaint valve Aug 8, 2025, 12:58 PM

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Damn xD

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 1:00 PM

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The Redmi 9c NFC should also work

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As long as it is android 9 and up

ivory olive Aug 8, 2025, 1:02 PM

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oh wow, how did I miss this?

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can't wait to try it!

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 1:02 PM

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It's already out for testing

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https://github.com/nacabaro/vbhelper/releases

GitHub

Releases · nacabaro/vbhelper

Contribute to nacabaro/vbhelper development by creating an account on GitHub.

ivory olive Aug 8, 2025, 1:02 PM

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I've been so discouraged from using my be because I had no actual good way to store my digimon so this is great

fickle knot Aug 8, 2025, 1:10 PM

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Thank you guys for developing this. Youre all really the last hope to keep the VBs alive.

thin flume Aug 8, 2025, 3:21 PM

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is the app at a state i can use it safely to store my digimon?

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i don't want to risk losing my Proximamon lmao

limber inlet Aug 8, 2025, 3:39 PM

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it's still in testing. i wouldn't put any mons you value in it yet.

autumn fjord Aug 8, 2025, 4:36 PM

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thin flume i don't want to risk losing my Proximamon lmao

wait until it does a 1.0

ornate tinsel Aug 8, 2025, 6:47 PM

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Would I be able to set this up without a computer? All I have is my phone at the moment, and of course my BE. Which I would love to get some extra milage out of

woeful plover Aug 8, 2025, 6:52 PM

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Currently it can only be set up on an android phone

ornate tinsel Aug 8, 2025, 7:06 PM

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Oh. Perfect. Just gotta charge my BE then

whole kestrel Aug 8, 2025, 7:36 PM

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undone charm bandai could have used bluetooth instead of nfc

lo que pasa es que en su lado del charco el NFC es mas comun y creo que bluethoo es antiguo e inefiviente ya para ellos

ornate tinsel Aug 8, 2025, 9:53 PM

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Is there like a guide or video to follow for installation? I want to make sure I'm doing this right

slender oracle Aug 8, 2025, 10:27 PM

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Hi everyone. Do I need to buy dim card for use with VBHelper ?

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north totem Aug 8, 2025, 10:43 PM

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slender oracle Hi everyone. Do I need to buy dim card for use with VBHelper ?

It's designed to work with official dim cards... Any you can use with a watch should work OK, troubleshooting still happening

ornate tinsel Aug 8, 2025, 11:09 PM

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I'll just keep digging till I figure it out lol

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 11:13 PM

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ornate tinsel Is there like a guide or video to follow for installation? I want to make sure I...

Download apk and install apk

ornate tinsel Aug 8, 2025, 11:13 PM

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Thanks man. I'm kinda dumb with this stuff

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Appreciate you and all your hard work

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 11:13 PM

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Then download vb arena 2.1.0 (if it is an xapk, extract it and then load the APK for com.bandai.vbarena

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And finally you will have to dump your dims and bems and add them to the app before transferring any digimon

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 11:14 PM

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slender oracle Hi everyone. Do I need to buy dim card for use with VBHelper ?

You will need official dim cards

ornate tinsel Aug 8, 2025, 11:22 PM

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So by dump you mean load them onto my watch then to the app or use a USB reader that can dump the cards directly into the app?

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Sorry it's been awhile since I actually busted the old BE out. I might have somethings a bit mixed up. I'm getting old lol

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I don't really have any Mons that would be considered special as I didn't get much time to play around with the app before it shut down/ I had a other kid lol

slender oracle Aug 8, 2025, 11:41 PM

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north totem It's designed to work with official dim cards... Any you can use with a watch sh...

Thank you guy

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slender oracle Aug 8, 2025, 11:41 PM

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undone charm You will need official dim cards

Thank you very much

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 11:42 PM

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ornate tinsel Sorry it's been awhile since I actually busted the old BE out. I might have some...

You need a device like the SD stick reader or a ch341a with Mr blinkys dim card tool

ornate tinsel Aug 8, 2025, 11:51 PM

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I might have one that will work.

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I'll have to see. It's an SD reader that I use to transfer files from my phone

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 11:51 PM

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Nono

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An SD stick reader is the commercial term, you can find them in Etsy

ornate tinsel Aug 8, 2025, 11:52 PM

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Ahhh

undone charm Aug 8, 2025, 11:52 PM

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Otherwise you can assemble one using a ch341a and an SD adapter for Arduino, more instructions in MrBlinky's site

ornate tinsel Aug 8, 2025, 11:53 PM

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Well, it was worth a shot. I might try my luck and see if anyone would want to trade my BE and DiMs for a different Vpet. I just made a commitment for a Wifi-Com so I don't think I can get any new tech for a minute. My wife would kill me

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Thanks for all the help though I'm sure I'll be taking advantage of your storage and other apps

olive thorn Aug 9, 2025, 12:34 AM

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undone charm since i'll be going on holiday

Have an amazing holiday brother, you deserve it 🦾 etemon

ivory olive Aug 9, 2025, 3:05 AM

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ornate tinsel Thanks for all the help though I'm sure I'll be taking advantage of your storage...

just saying, I built that device 2-3 years ago for like 5€

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the ch341a are available at aliexpress for really cheap and it's very easy to assemble

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I have 0 understanding of electronics, it's literally just connecting a few wires with soldering being optional

worn forge Aug 9, 2025, 5:04 AM

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Don't think I've seen much of a peep about adventures, but they seem to be functional already

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Getting PP Training items off a VH char is interesting, though

undone charm Aug 9, 2025, 9:02 AM

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New app icon

gray hamlet Aug 9, 2025, 9:12 AM

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Perfect not in your face but ibvious for what it is.

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snow chasm Aug 9, 2025, 2:53 PM

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whole kestrel Aug 9, 2025, 3:26 PM

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Una duda si tengo instalado el vital arena como hago para realizar el importe de datos

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?

undone charm Aug 9, 2025, 7:50 PM

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whole kestrel Una duda si tengo instalado el vital arena como hago para realizar el importe d...

Tú importas el apk

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Te descargas un xapk, lo descomprimes e instalas el apk que sea com.bandai.vitalbraceletarena

undone charm Aug 9, 2025, 7:52 PM

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snow chasm

It doesn't work well current

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Currently

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Anyway, I'm off to a flight

whole kestrel Aug 9, 2025, 8:26 PM

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El archivo xapk en donde lo encuentro? Es necesario o solo con el Apk?

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Y perdon es que es la primera vez que oigo de todo eso del xapk

whole kestrel Aug 9, 2025, 8:54 PM

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Pero la instalacion de la apk no dañara la info de mi partida actual en la app que ya tebia instalada del vital atena?

limber inlet Aug 9, 2025, 9:37 PM

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no necesitas instalar el APK. solo necesitas tener el archivo en tu teléfono para usar VB helper

whole kestrel Aug 9, 2025, 9:46 PM

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Ahh ya muchas gracias y perdon por tanta pregunta

limber inlet Aug 9, 2025, 11:00 PM

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no problema 🙂 contento de ayudar

fickle knot Aug 10, 2025, 8:57 AM

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thin flume is the app at a state i can use it safely to store my digimon?

DO NOT UPLOAD BEFORE LOADING THE DIM FILE INTO THE APP! YOUR CHARACTER WILL DISAPPEAR!

feral gulch Aug 10, 2025, 3:59 PM

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I accidentally uploaded my guy (after adding the DiM, of course) while trying to send a mission, but I'm not able to get him back out. 😅 When I send him back, I get a "Sent DIM Successfully" message, followed by a "Whoops", and the VB (original) sits at "waiting" for a while without completing the transfer. I assume I'm cooked, but thought I would see if anyone had suggestions.

worn forge Aug 10, 2025, 5:55 PM

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Suddenly running into this again after sending a mon from the app with a special mission, and then putting it back in the app to check on it

undone charm Aug 10, 2025, 7:32 PM

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I'll have to check the logcat when I return home

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Which mission is this?

worn forge Aug 10, 2025, 7:38 PM

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250 vitals in 1 hour, put a bunch of those on a singular digi

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All was functional with those (although I wasn't aware they were a one-at-a-time kind of thing), its just that sending back is only now doing the same-old Whoops

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I'll charge up the bracelet and set 'em off active before checking again

worn forge Aug 10, 2025, 9:16 PM

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Ah, sending back another mon (albeit without missions attached) to another VH worked perfectly fine instead of almost immediately going Whoops

Seems only the one with missions on 'em can't budge

undone charm Aug 10, 2025, 9:48 PM

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worn forge 250 vitals in 1 hour, put a bunch of those on a singular digi

Try to not send the same kind over and over

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That's something I have to test, haven't tested much

feral gulch Aug 10, 2025, 10:02 PM

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I also tried sending a different one with no missions attached and got it to the point of the VB asking for the DiM card, but it ended up failing when it asked me to tap my phone to it the second time. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, though. Nevertheless, it's pretty cool being able to upload my Digimon, especially the custom ones! When the original app was around I never had a phone with NFC, so this is a new experience for me.

worn forge Aug 10, 2025, 10:08 PM

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I only managed to get over that by just keeping the bracelet on the phone until the app reacts correctly, although that's not doing anything atm

rugged musk Aug 11, 2025, 2:29 AM

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Hola, la aplicación es compatible con el primer vital bracelet? El dm de pulsemon?

undone charm Aug 11, 2025, 6:53 AM

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@rugged musk debería

rugged musk Aug 11, 2025, 4:19 PM

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Cuando mando un digimon al vb helper lo pierdo, no aparece en la app y desde el vital se fue, tengo la primera versión japonesa del dm el blanco de pulsemon y tengo el apk vinculado en el vbhelper nose si me está faltando algún paso

ornate tinsel Aug 11, 2025, 5:21 PM

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Decided to keep my BE. Could I get a link to the SD tool I'll need?

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Please and thank you

undone charm Aug 11, 2025, 5:33 PM

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rugged musk Cuando mando un digimon al vb helper lo pierdo, no aparece en la app y desde el ...

Tienes los bins de las dims?

undone charm Aug 11, 2025, 5:33 PM

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ornate tinsel Decided to keep my BE. Could I get a link to the SD tool I'll need?

https://ko-fi.com/s/8627dd37e4

Ko-fi

SD-Stick Programmer [100] - bazjo (fention engineering)'s Ko-fi Shop

NOTE: Usually I will do a batch shipment every 5-10 days, depending on order volume and my schedule. If you urgently need your order, please contact m...

ornate tinsel Aug 11, 2025, 5:41 PM

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undone charm https://ko-fi.com/s/8627dd37e4

Thanks Naca

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stable moth Aug 11, 2025, 8:29 PM

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Hi guys, I have a question. What is "Import Secrets" in the app? What it does?

limber inlet Aug 11, 2025, 8:33 PM

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stable moth Hi guys, I have a question. What is "Import Secrets" in the app? What it does?

This allows encrypted data to be read

stable moth Aug 11, 2025, 8:37 PM

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Oh, so It's mandatory to have Bandai's Vital Lab apk

limber inlet Aug 11, 2025, 8:55 PM

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yup yup! actually it may not be decrypting anything, it might just use those as part of the NFC, but either way, it's required.

whole kestrel Aug 11, 2025, 9:44 PM

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Los secretos son los archivos bin?

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o son los del archivo Xapk?

undone charm Aug 11, 2025, 10:02 PM

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Los del archivo xapk

whole kestrel Aug 12, 2025, 12:07 AM

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Gracias @undone charm

sharp nova Aug 12, 2025, 12:27 AM

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So for the Import Secrets option, do you use the Vital Bracelet Lab APK, or the Vital Bracelet Arena APK? Figured I'd ask for clarity.

whole kestrel Aug 12, 2025, 12:40 AM

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sharp nova So for the Import Secrets option, do you use the Vital Bracelet **Lab** APK, or ...

Vital arena xapk

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Es el que vas a necesitar

sharp nova Aug 12, 2025, 3:17 AM

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Okay, gotcha! I'll keep that in mind!

rugged musk Aug 12, 2025, 4:46 AM

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undone charm Tienes los bins de las dims?

Sisi, tengo todos tengo q instalarlos?

undone charm Aug 12, 2025, 6:32 AM

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rugged musk Sisi, tengo todos tengo q instalarlos?

Los que vayas a usar

rugged musk Aug 12, 2025, 2:52 PM

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Ahhh okey entiendo muchas gracias

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ornate tinsel Aug 12, 2025, 2:55 PM

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Hey Naca, I don't know if this is the proper place for this question, or if it's a feature you might've already added.

But is it possible to make it where you can still scan NFC battles while your digimon is doing an adventure stage? Just a passing thought I had while I was messing with mine today

undone charm Aug 12, 2025, 4:11 PM

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Don't think that's possible with this project

ornate tinsel Aug 12, 2025, 4:52 PM

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Okay. Thanks for answering

tawdry condor Aug 12, 2025, 7:30 PM

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Hi I’m new here. What exactly is the VB helper?

tawdry condor Aug 12, 2025, 7:51 PM

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Just curious

limber inlet Aug 12, 2025, 7:52 PM

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it's a fanmade app to use with VB/BE since vital bracelet arena has been discontinued

tawdry condor Aug 12, 2025, 7:53 PM

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Nice. When is it expected to be completed?

Also can it be downloaded on an iPhone?

limber inlet Aug 12, 2025, 7:54 PM

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there's no estimates on when it will be ready. it's actively being updated, but it's being done in everyone's free time.

it's android only.

tawdry condor Aug 12, 2025, 7:55 PM

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1: fair enough.

2: drat. Well was worth asking…hopefully one day I can get it on an iPhone (only phone i have)

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limber inlet Aug 12, 2025, 7:58 PM

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unfortunately, chances are this won't ever make it to an iPhone. apple requires developers pay a fee to release apps. it also requires a mac computer to develop on (which none of the devs have). it also would need to be rewritten in xcode.

tawdry condor Aug 12, 2025, 7:58 PM

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Ouch.

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Well…what does the App do anyway?

limber inlet Aug 12, 2025, 7:59 PM

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right now storage, adventure missions, and items

tawdry condor Aug 12, 2025, 7:59 PM

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What kind of missions?

limber inlet Aug 12, 2025, 7:59 PM

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battling is being worked on

tawdry condor Aug 12, 2025, 7:59 PM

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Oh?

limber inlet Aug 12, 2025, 8:00 PM

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tawdry condor What kind of missions?

i think it's mostly things like earn X amount of vitals in X hours

tawdry condor Aug 12, 2025, 8:01 PM

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I see

limber inlet Aug 12, 2025, 8:02 PM

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tawdry condor Oh?

#1325936394207625267 message

yup yup

tawdry condor Aug 12, 2025, 8:02 PM

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Thx

atomic rover Aug 12, 2025, 8:05 PM

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limber inlet unfortunately, chances are this won't ever make it to an iPhone. apple requires ...

AND u have to completely recode the app in their own proprietary code language, and if something is messed up on the build u essentially have to go back to square 1 and do a bunch of other nonsense.

Honestly people who develop for apple deserve some respect for how much suffering they put themselves through at times.

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XD, I could never imagine doing apple in general tbh bc it just sounds pain.

tawdry condor Aug 12, 2025, 8:06 PM

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Damn

atomic rover Aug 12, 2025, 8:06 PM

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Yeah its a TON of work Ive heard.

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seen a PirateSoftware short on apple coding a while back.

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On the other hand, my adventures are almost done. Testing them on the app.

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Did a 6 12 and 24

tawdry condor Aug 12, 2025, 8:08 PM

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Wow

limber inlet Aug 12, 2025, 8:10 PM

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atomic rover On the other hand, my adventures are almost done. Testing them on the app.

NICE!

worn forge Aug 12, 2025, 8:10 PM

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Ah yeah, adventures are perfectly functional

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do worry about missions though in the face of a trapped mon, but then mayhaps that was the duplicate mission stacking

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i really gotta do a logcat on that

atomic rover Aug 12, 2025, 8:12 PM

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worn forge do worry about missions though in the face of a trapped mon, but then mayhaps th...

Gotcha, Ill make sure to do missions only with non fully trained stuff then incase they get trapped in limbo

pulsar shuttle Aug 12, 2025, 9:04 PM

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Rn its in testing regardless. Every update means a database wipe, so Id be careful about bringing over anything you care about

whole kestrel Aug 13, 2025, 3:28 AM

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pregunta, aun se debe desinstalar cuando se actualiza?

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worn forge Aug 13, 2025, 12:19 PM

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~~Realising there's no good way to update an imported DiM('s sprites and stats and such) save of just wiping everything~~

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~~'Course eh, can't say there's much of anything to lose past items that may or may not be usable with what you got~~ only now noticed where you can rename/remove cards

woeful plover Aug 13, 2025, 12:43 PM

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Question about custom dims

So say I have a custom dim with new sprites made by for example aderek can those be transferred into this new app?

Another question is what if it’s a custom dim of a regular dim, like one that can’t really be bought anymore so it was made on the vs memory or whatever.

worn forge Aug 13, 2025, 1:07 PM

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Feel almost all customs out there may well be on something you yourself don't own, but whatever the case it's still readable

woeful plover Aug 13, 2025, 3:54 PM

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What do you mean? I’m asking if the new sprites can be transferred to the VB helper app

rough palm Aug 13, 2025, 4:19 PM

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woeful plover What do you mean? I’m asking if the new sprites can be transferred to the VB hel...

The app asks you to provide the bin file, so it should display the sprite contained in the file

woeful plover Aug 13, 2025, 4:28 PM

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Ah gotcha thanks

weary plover Aug 14, 2025, 2:14 AM

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any way I can use this app on pc?

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I figured I could use a android emulator but how would I transfer the digis from the bracelet to the app on pc?

autumn fjord Aug 14, 2025, 2:16 AM

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android studio is as close as you get.

weary plover Aug 14, 2025, 3:25 AM

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i see

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west terrace Aug 14, 2025, 2:24 PM

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weary plover I figured I could use a android emulator but how would I transfer the digis from...

It should run on any android emulator, Genymotion, Bluestacks, Android Studio, etc. The problem you would most definitely run into would be getting the NFC to work. I don't think any of those emulators support NFC, even if you had an adapter or NFC device that connected to your PC. Without NFC capabilities, you can't transfer mons to and from your PC.

weary plover Aug 14, 2025, 6:12 PM

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west terrace It should run on any android emulator, Genymotion, Bluestacks, Android Studio, e...

oh what a bummer :/

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guess thats what I get for using ios lmao

sly sable Aug 15, 2025, 3:11 PM

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Can I use VBHelper to transfer digis from my VH to my BE?

molten zephyr Aug 15, 2025, 3:33 PM

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sly sable Can I use VBHelper to transfer digis from my VH to my BE?

no i don't think you can

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i think it's because they have different training method

fallen tendon Aug 15, 2025, 3:34 PM

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I think that might be possible in the future...

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DIMs can't be trained on the BE... so if you are sticking with the same DIM, I expect this is something we can make happen

molten zephyr Aug 15, 2025, 3:36 PM

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Idk about this VH needs trophies and be needs pp

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It's 2 different things

fallen tendon Aug 15, 2025, 3:36 PM

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they are the same thing... pp just replaced trophies.

molten zephyr Aug 15, 2025, 3:36 PM

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In terms of coding Idk

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But if it is possible it might have glitches

fallen tendon Aug 15, 2025, 3:37 PM

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PP evolution requirements on the BE for DIMS match the trophy requirements for the same DIM on a VH.

molten zephyr Aug 15, 2025, 3:37 PM

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Yeah true

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Wait hang on does it work rn...?

fallen tendon Aug 15, 2025, 3:38 PM

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It's just a question of data format translation... some things might get lost, and some things might be given default or app coded values (like remaining training timer)... but in theory this is doable.

molten zephyr Aug 15, 2025, 3:39 PM

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The thing is you would need the dim unlock thing or glitch right?

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If it were to work

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I'll try with nu metal empire rq

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Since I don't actually have any Digimon in that series

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Or dim card

fallen tendon Aug 15, 2025, 3:44 PM

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DIMs work on the BE natively... you don't need to do anything to support DIMs on BE... Just need a way to convert digimon raised on VB or VH to the format that the BE uses to store digimon.

molten zephyr Aug 15, 2025, 3:44 PM

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Yeah

molten zephyr Aug 15, 2025, 3:54 PM

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fallen tendon DIMs work on the BE natively... you don't need to do anything to support DIMs on...

Alright I'll just say this after trying for a couple of times and I actually now think it might be possible

ripe moth Aug 15, 2025, 10:00 PM

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Misspelled Arena in settings/Import Apk (Arean).

undone charm Aug 15, 2025, 11:09 PM

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Yee, will fix once I get home

ripe moth Aug 16, 2025, 3:06 AM

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Thanks

ripe briar Aug 16, 2025, 3:30 AM

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How easy are version updates on the user end currently? Is the app hooked up for updates, would you simply need to run the updated apk, or would it require a fresh install each version?

shrewd torrent Aug 16, 2025, 12:00 PM

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question: I updated a custom bin i made myself but i have the previous version on the helper app, how do i delete the outdated version on the app so i can put in the updated one? 🤔

worn forge Aug 16, 2025, 12:04 PM

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Reckon you gotta delete the old one via the pencil icon

shrewd torrent Aug 16, 2025, 12:36 PM

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Screenshot_2025-08-16-14-35-54-445_com.github.nacabaro.vbhelper.jpg

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shrewd torrent Aug 16, 2025, 12:36 PM

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ah that explains why i was unable to delete them

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did i miss an update? 🤔

undone charm Aug 16, 2025, 12:38 PM

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Yeah, maybe a few

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Clear app data and install the new update

#VB Helper - Replacement app for VB Arena