3DMark Time Spy: Legion Slim 7i | 4070 | i9-13900H | 32GB RAM | 2560x1600 screen | 0.985V

[sullen topaz]

Not bad, no OC, performance mode.

[sullen topaz]

Now the question is should I try overclocking it 🤔

[arctic kraken]

Yes

[reef urchin]

that is a monster gpu score

absolutely try ocing it

[sullen topaz]

I will be trying it tomorrow 👍

[reef urchin]

can you do me a favour? check the maximum voltage your 4070 runs at

in timespy

[sullen topaz]

Will do, give me a sec

[reef urchin]

you don't have to let it run for long

just say whether it's 0.925V or 0.985V

[sullen topaz]

Actually a bit busy cutting on a deadline
I'll let you know after 11:59
Heres some other information about it incase you're interested

[reef urchin]

lmao, good luck on your assignment

if it's 0.985V.... you lucked the fuck out

there's a variant of the 4070 with a much higher vbios voltage limit

and it's so much higher it's enough for ~10-20% more performance to put it near 3080 level

[sullen topaz]

3DMark is scary, makes it sound like a jet engine
Anyways, 0.985V @reef urchin

[errant cradle]

Oh damn

[reef urchin]

YOOOO

@fiery narwhal we have another

bro, you can overclock this thing to insane levels

[sullen topaz]

3DMark Time Spy: Legion Slim 7i | 4070 | i9-13900H | 32GB RAM | 2560x1600 screen | 0.985V

decided to update title to make it easier for future searches

[errant cradle]

How far

[reef urchin]

bc ben got 14.4k

[errant cradle]

Damn

I want 0.985v 4070 now

Lenovo replacing my laptop let me annoy them for 4070

[elder forum]

Didn't know the existence of GPUs with higher voltage limit.
Is this limited to slim 7 or is a general production update for every 4070 Lenovo?

[errant cradle]

From the Vbios online that I can see most likely all Lenovo 4070s

[elder forum]

So it's only a slim 7 feature, no hope for l5p and others

[errant cradle]

Uh I didn't say it's slim 7 only

[reef urchin]

not all 4070s even on slim 7 have 0.985V

only some

i'm sure people here would be comfortable sending vbios files if asked

[sullen topaz]

I think the slim 7s in US tend to be more likely 0.985

[errant cradle]

It's on techpowerup site

[reef urchin]

could you drop your vbios rom here pls?

[reef urchin]

do you know for a fact its the 0,985V one tho

[errant cradle]

Yeah

[errant cradle]

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/258682/258682

[reef urchin]

hm

[errant cradle]

Says it at the bottom it's 0.985v

[reef urchin]

ooh wow

nice

[sullen topaz]

I'd try if it doesn't have it online but I'd rather not have to go through the process 💀

[errant cradle]

It's online no worries

[reef urchin]

no worries yeah youre good

[sullen topaz]

Currently overclockin it

lookin good so far

13457

though I think I can get a little higher

aAAAAAAAND

it crashed

lmao

13561

cpu thermal throttled 😩

[errant cradle]

Sad no undervolting

[sullen topaz]

Computer crashed and burned after 3 3d mark runs so here is the best one I have currently, not that high but ey, it was after 3 runs back to back 🤷 :
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/41661849

and if I'm going to be dead honest

I suck at overclocking

huh

interesting

cpu score is quite nice

It appears my gpu can't catch up to my cpu
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/41586032/spy/41661849/spy/37649349#

maybe I accidently screwed up a setting somewhere 🤔

[reef urchin]

wdym

[errant cradle]

Run test at 60hz and 800x600

[sullen topaz]

My cpu seems to be slightly out performing the other scores in terms of similiar spec wise, though that also means it's burning itself to ashes temp wise
(Comparing between top two scores that have 4090 + i9-13900H)

Though I might be wrong, dunno

(Middle is mine)

[reef urchin]

oh, nice

[sullen topaz]

Indeed, until it begins cooking itself to 95C+

[sullen topaz]

I will try that tmr

[sick nexus]

Is the Reliability voltage limit even defined by the bios? It might be defined by the hardware itself.

[errant cradle]

Nah it's done via vBios

[ancient heron]

My GE77HX did better

[sullen topaz]

Just realized

I was accidently limiting the power of my gpu

Got that score on a limited gpu ayo

I have slightly lessened the limit just for this one time, don't want to risk obliterating my gpu to ashes

[sullen topaz]

LETS GOOOOOO

still kinda behind #1 but ey

I will take it

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/41690467

@reef urchin

😩

[reef urchin]

are you in custom mode with max fans?

try setting your cpu power mode to Balanced instead of Best performance in the w11 menu

[sullen topaz]

Will try to do that 👌

[sullen topaz]

Should I be running in hybird mode instead of DGPU mode?

[reef urchin]

no

[sullen topaz]

also wait, what did you mean by w11 menu?

[sullen topaz]

Ohhh, power plan?

[reef urchin]

no

well yes

but also

[sullen topaz]

w-

??

[reef urchin]

right click the battery icon

[sullen topaz]

power and sleep settings

[reef urchin]

yes

[sullen topaz]

then balanced?

[reef urchin]

you want the w11 battery screen

[sullen topaz]

oh

[reef urchin]

not control panel

[sullen topaz]

ok

I have set it to balanced

[reef urchin]

control panel, set power plan to balanced also

then make your machine custom mode and max everything except cpu temperature limit out (leave this at 97)

[sullen topaz]

noted, give me a few seconds really quickly

[sullen topaz]

Legion balanced mode right?

thats the only balanced mode I see

[reef urchin]

no, just windows balanced mode

click more plan options

or whatever the drop down is called

[sullen topaz]

Got it

Btw just asking

will this obliterate the life span-

[reef urchin]

nah

max fans you mean?

[sullen topaz]

max fans defintley

[reef urchin]

bc its actually firmware limited

lmao

[sullen topaz]

🤔

[reef urchin]

if you do bios update you will hear the true max fans

[sullen topaz]

o

so I should be fine?

[reef urchin]

yeah it doesn't deteriorate so quickly

i wouldnt do it all the time every single day

but trying to get max benchmark is fine

[sullen topaz]

Bios update as in firmware update?

33W?

[reef urchin]

yes

no

i mean

during the update

itself

it maxes the fans

TRULY maxes the fans

not 4700rpm like in custom mode

[sullen topaz]

that is weird lmao

[reef urchin]

nah they do it so idiots like us dont set our machine on fire

lmao

[sullen topaz]

it turns into a helicopter at that point

[reef urchin]

during bios update?

its actually deafeningly loud

it is insane

but yeah youre good

just dont do it 24/7

[sullen topaz]

Whats a good setting to put it at if I was to do lets say, an overnight render?

[reef urchin]

performance mode

thats really it

raise up the back with a stand and youre good

or balanced if you want it quieter

or quiet if you cant sleep with it on lmao

[sullen topaz]

Just gotta phase out the fan noise

k im beginning benchmarking, so far looks stable? (don't know what's considered stable)

[reef urchin]

its gonna be stable if your overclock was stable

this is just gonna squeeze out last few bits of performance is all

keep an eye on fps and see if theyre notably higher or lower than before

[sullen topaz]

Noted

btw, does doing a drain to 15% then to 100% help with recalibrating the "battery lifespan lost" type of percentage?

I feel like the remaining battery amount on it is a slight bit inaccurate

and I only did a battery calibration once or so

[reef urchin]

why

i'm on 22 cycles and have 97

if you wanted to you could but its unnecessary

[ancient heron]

My GE77 still did better

3070ti for the win

[reef urchin]

Soon™️

[sullen topaz]

o-

I beat the record

#1

14323

[ancient heron]

Never

[sullen topaz]

Now before I ruin the fans, gonna tick it off real quick

back to quiet mode it goes

[reef urchin]

LOL

[sullen topaz]

give me a sec to send link

[reef urchin]

surely share the result

[sullen topaz]

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/100023761?

[reef urchin]

hot damn

[sullen topaz]

also, temps were surprisingly cooler than I expected

[ancient heron]

Now I'm defeated

[reef urchin]

your cpu score is a bit low... maybe try setting in high performance mode and repeating in a while after its cooled down

[sullen topaz]

ngl, I did technically run 3 3dmark runs before this

[reef urchin]

on my 13700H balanced works better than high performance

but idk about 13900H

[sullen topaz]

guess high performance would work better in this case due to the fact that my cpu isn't exactly reaching the temp limit

my previous cpu score was dominating though no clue what happened there

[ancient heron]

CPU still destroyed it

12800hx for the win

[finite egret]

ayyy nice work!

[reef urchin]

they had it default

[sullen topaz]

HIGHER?

[reef urchin]

higher compared to 0.925V default

[sullen topaz]

ah

[sick nexus]

@errant cradle I tried flashing that 0.985V bios onto my 4070. But the reliability voltage is still 0.925V. A months ago i already tried the same thing and it didn't change the reliability voltage either.

[errant cradle]

Oof

[granite fox]

What is your current 3dmark score?

[sick nexus]

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/39137518

[finite egret]

my eyes popped from their sockets at the CPU score until I realized you have HX!

I had uploaded that bios to TPU immediately when I found out my chip went to 985...Peppa tried to flash it and found he already had the same exact BIOS, flashed it anyway and nothing changed it has to be something else controlling that voltage limit but I have no idea what it is

[granite fox]

Good score, better than mine.

[supple bobcat]

How do I check if my voltage limit is 0.985V? @finite egret

[finite egret]

load up hwinfo and run a game, then check the maximum GPU voltage

[supple bobcat]

It looks like yes, it does go to .985V. Anything I can do to improve performance if that's the case?

[finite egret]

undervolt and/or overclock with MSI afterburner

[supple bobcat]

That would be for the GPU right? The CPU is locked if I'm not mistaken right?

[finite egret]

correct on both counts. Even locked, there are some things you can tune on the CPU, but that gets into more hardcore tuning for benchmarks and stuff rather than gaming or day to day use

[supple bobcat]

Ah gotcha, yeah I don't know if I need that but would be interested in getting better performance from the GPU.

I don't know anything about undervolting or over clocking however. I use MSI afterburner to give me the overlay, but that's about it. Are there some simple settings I can try or a guide I can follow?

[finite egret]

start with 125 core and 500 memory which should be pretty stable for just about anything. You can go up from there and your only risk is crashes so it depends on your tolerance for failure. Single player game maybe OK but competitive fps maybe you don't want to drop a game due to crash

YouTube also has some videos

[supple bobcat]

Awesome, thanks!

I'll give it a try

I also see an overclock option in the legion toolkit. Is that any different from doing it in afterburner?

[lone valve]

My does my cpu score is 11k

.....

[arctic kraken]

Aight spill the beans

[sullen topaz]

I would like to say I no longer know how I managed to get this score 😂
might just wipe my pc and try it again (since I got this score near stock/bloated)
then slowly change stuff before I screw something up again

[finite egret]

rivalry reborn?