#IPL 1000s vote

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polar pelican
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The tournament rule for the 1000s just changed to have the final be a checkmate format instead of a Best of 5

This was intended before but not yet in place due to some tournament platform limitations

Now that the change happened it raises the debate of which format is more competitive & suited for the event

PROs for checkmate
-Winner can feel more like a real winner because he actually won last game
-Potentially a more exciting viewer experience

PROs for B05
-Cant drag on infinitely like checkmate could
-Arguably more competitive because its the total average instead only being the last game deciding the winner between multiple participants

Lets vote and gather our opinions here so that the organizers can take their decision while taking into account the players view

1️⃣ Checkmate for IPL 1000
2️⃣ B05 for IPL 1000

molten portal
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as I said before, Bo5 is more competitive than checkmate.
there are many rng factors that influence you to win the match, like weapons and augments
with that said, even with a mid tier weapon and bad augments a player can get top 4 if play well and then keep consistency in a Bo5
so im my opinion Bo5 is the only way to follow

stark condor
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Although Checkmate may seem unfair to players, a large part of the success of major TFT championships has always been the Checkmate finals

In the last 10 TFT Worlds, in 9 of them the winner was undoubtedly the best player in the tourney, even with the Checkmate format. And the only time this didn't happen, we had a series of 7 insane matches where the player who was last in the standings won two matches and became champion

So I think it's a great success for the viewer experience, and it can bring more visibility and hype to Illuvium. Since it's the first season, I think the time to test it is now in an IPL 500 or 1000, to decide whether to use this format at the Worlds or not

dry agate
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I agree with notcomplain but at some point if world championship finals are gonna be checkmate we need to test at some point I recommend using one of the remaining ipl 500s for it

wise birch
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From my perspective, the Checkmate format is only good for the viewer experience. First of all, viewers need to be emotionally attached to the players, and we don’t even have that yet. We also don’t have a large viewer base, so most of the potential benefits of the format don’t really apply to us.

From a competitive player’s perspective, a Bo5 format will always involve more skill than a Checkmate format, especially in a game like ours, where your first weapon picks can often decide whether you can actually win the game or if you’re just playing for top 4. We have too little agency to really compare ourselves to TFT yet, where how well you play matters much more. Let’s say you get a game like you talked about in another post, @stark condor with only blues and yellows, and suddenly you can’t win Worlds anymore because the game decided to take it out of your control.

Bo5 gives players more chances to adapt and showcase consistency, instead of relying on just a few average performances followed by a high roll in the last game. Checkmate can sometimes make a single unlucky game far too punishing. It also opens up a lot of target griefing, which I think is a bad and unfair aspect.

molten portal
brazen crater
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I want to explain why the next IPL 1000 will use the check-mate format.

First off, I want to remind everyone that the IPL 1000 check-mate finals was the original format and always planned that way. We only changed it to a Bo5 due to technical limitations with the tournament platform.

It makes the final match far more exciting. This has been the go-to standard format for all TFT Worlds finals and other big tournament grand finals for as long as I can remember.
We’re not trying to reinvent the competitive autobattler scene—hence our reasoning to use check-mate for our World Finals as well as for the IPL 1000.

The value of having the final match decide the entire tournament is extremely high. In most other IPL tournaments we’ve hosted so far, the last half of the final match often feels awkward or anticlimactic—the winner is already determined. We either end up celebrating them early during the match (making the rest feel pointless), or we hold off on celebrating until it’s over, which also feels weird.

One of the biggest values Illuvium gets from the IPL series—and one of the main reasons why spending a quarter million dollars on it makes sense at our current stage—is social proof. We’re creating clips, streams, highlight videos, and visible evidence that Illuvium has a real competitive scene.

That’s why we decided to bring the check-mate format not only to the biggest stage at Worlds but also to the next IPL 1000.

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As a positive side effect, both players and staff will get to experience the format firsthand. Running an event with check-mate before Worlds is a valuable trial run.

Also the IPL 500 has been upgraded to a more competitive format very much in line with what was said above to fully best-of-three pre-rounds into best-of-five finals, focusing on maximum competitiveness there.

TL;DR: A best-of-five finals is more competitive, but the check-mate format is the industry standard for major stages for a reason—it creates unmatched hype, stream moments, and highlight potential. That’s ultimately more important for the biggest events, and that’s why we’ve decided to bring it to the IPL 1000 as well.

Thank you everyone for the feedback and for creating this thread! I’m keen to see what other players will say about this.

stark condor
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One question, @brazen crater: in TFT, Checkmate has always been 20 points, 8 games max. Any reason you chose 19 points, 6 games max?

brazen crater
dapper mantle
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and although maybe the last few rounds of the final game in a bo5 may be in a situation where the winner is decided, in check mate some times the first few games seem pointless and just kind of waiting for a few people to be at checkmate

stark condor
dapper mantle
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still prefer bo5 haha but yea hard to argue againt check mate than