#Grinder event incentivizes to not grind

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tawdry radish
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You need 10 games minimum and to be top 8 in average place to play the finals.

So after your first 10 games, if you are in the top 8 you should avoid grinding or else you risk losing your points.

The rules are unclear because you can actually play on a 2nd account but it won't count for the leaderboard even though the opposite is stated in the official rules.

I suggest changing this poorly designed event or even removing it completely, it brings Illuvium down.

proven sable
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Fox played a gazzilion matches and he still on top

tawdry radish
proven sable
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you need to grind and the more you grind the better you need to play, or just play 10 perfect matches and brag..but you need to be good..as i told earlier

tawdry radish
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Several players from the top 8 played less or tried to play on different accounts or rename, I can bring the screenshots if needed

Fox included

Which means that this grinder event incentivized them to not play on their main account

If an event is named "Grinder" one could reasonably think that it rewards grinding

proven sable
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Fox played 33 matches, Sota cmon...you just had a bad streak trying to rush for the official lb and failed.

tawdry radish
proven sable
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ask him, i am not Fox and he played 33 games..that s it

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try top cope with your bad streaks

tawdry radish
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Well that's simple let's get people's opinion

@tired valve why did you talk about playing on another account or renaming?

eternal pollen
# tawdry radish You need 10 games minimum and to be top 8 in average place to play the finals. ...

Definitely agree

Players that reach the top 8 are incentivized to stop playing. The timing was special here as some still pushed to go over a certain treshold on real ilv leaderboard as we ended a season and today is the first day of the new season so they will push anyway and risk losing their top 8 because the real leaderboard is a bigger incentive

the 10 game minimum is fine as a too big minimum requirement would turn away more casual players but i suggest that we should be able to smurf at least if there other similar events in the future

tawdry radish
eternal pollen
tawdry radish
# eternal pollen the illuvium rules or the events rules?

The event rules, you can also smurf according to Illuvium as long as you open a ticket and you are not eligible for rewards with several accounts

So you could play 10 games with one account and grind the leaderboard with another one

I even had to ask about the rules twice, the first time there was no clear "yes" or "no" answer from the organizer

eternal pollen
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yes thats why i suggested that this format should allow smurfs (in event rules)

tired valve
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but i agree that start of new season and this event stack - not good.

tawdry radish
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You're not the only one who was wondering if it was a good idea to play @tired valve

proven sable
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grinders was active before we knew anything bout reset

tawdry radish
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I know other players who didn't want to risk their points

proven sable
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Monday 00:00 UTC

tired valve
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in any way - you can chill today and not grind LB. to not risky lose average in event. 1/7 days not decide much, if you not fight for top-3

tawdry radish
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Even without a reset it would still disincentivize to grind

proven sable
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salty coz you are out of the 8, i got it

tawdry radish
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If you want to talk in ad hominem we could do that, I didn't play well today so I admit my mistake

I wonder if you're able to own your mistakes as well

proven sable
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Next event ruleset will be like this: the minimum limit of required games is 15, please note: this means you have to play on your main account as playing on alt would validate ToS

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And on top of that, I asked feedback to Sl1ckz at the very beginning and the answer was: SL1Ckz —
Yeah it's nice! Also give the ppl who can't play as much a chance§
Quants | Syndicate —
grinders yeah..but a bit more quality over quantity

SL1Ckz —
Yeah that's right
only downside is if someone gets unlcuky within their games they can miss it even if they are a good players
Maybe 15 games would be better to even it out if you wanna keep the smae format

Quants | Syndicate —
and it will be aligned with the games needed to qualify for the official LB too

SL1Ckz —
Yeah good point.

tawdry radish
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As long as the rules are clear and the design changes for the better I'm satisfied, glad you don't keep the rules are they are now

It would still not incentivize much grinding so I suggest renaming the event as well

proven sable
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yeah..next one will change its name to "Grinders but good ones" /quants out thx for the feedback

tawdry radish
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You can remove grinders

proven sable
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sure or you can be good

tawdry radish
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Ad hominems and passive aggressiveness won't bring you allies