Hidden stats

[midnight elk]

It isn't fair to create hidden stats that affect 300% illuvials we bought thinking they were at max potential.
Either give the already existing 300% stats 100 tpi, either create a separate field for the hidden stats.
I paid $600 for a 300% jokull seeing now his tpi is only 97
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[tight cipher]

I was planning on starting a Feedback thread this morning, since there are multiple going I will add my comments here.

Many of us bought and/or spent time plus money fusing for those perfect stat Illuvials fully believing they were perfect Illuvials. It was a reasonable assumption to make because the only metric we were presented with to judge Illuvials by was the stats hex. The posts that have come out regarding this show that I was not alone in my assumption. We thought we were buying 100% perfect Illuvials when we purchased these full stat Illuvials.

We posted pictures of our perfect stat Illuvials commenting that they were perfect, I was never corrected by the team on that and I have yet to have heard from anyone else that they were.

Now we are being told that our Illuvials are not actually perfect because there are 10 hidden traits. Why was this not disclosed on the Illuvidex so we could make fully informed purchasing decisions?

Using my Phyriox as an example - The Illuvidex today shows there are 3 perfect stat Phyriox, I actually thought there were 4 when I bought mine but maybe one was burned or something. Anyhow, I believed I had one of the very few perfect Phyriox, now there are 14 with a TPI equal to or greater than mine. That will affect the price. Buyers and sellers alike up to this point were pricing based on them being 100% perfect.

I love Illuvium. I am not leaving the game, but how it stands now, I will be changing how I spend in the game due to this. I don't believe this was done maliciously by the team, but I also no longer trust them to not lower the value of my assets at some future point. The risk to those of us buying early collectibles should come from market conditions, whether the game takes off and has players, not from Illuvium itself. There is not enough consideration being taken by Illuvium in trying to ensure that the collectibles we are spending money on will retain the time of purchase perceived value.

[midnight elk]

Couldn't say it better
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[radiant quiver]

I also wanted to add something, but you’ve fully expressed my thoughts. I just agree with this.

[young compass]

can someone explain what is this "hidden stats"

[tight cipher]

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It's explained in the blog Aaron wrote @young compass

[young compass]

Oh the TPI?
yea i dnt understand why there are 16 traits when only have 6 stats

[topaz rampart]

if my math doesn't fail me, the last 2 bins - bin 15 and 16 still account for 1.54% of the TPI, so it's something.
the probability of rolling a 100 on a 0-100 scale 16 consecutive times is approximately 8.53×10^−33

[topaz rampart]

6 stats is just for arena, but there can be a game in the future with 16 stats.

[young compass]

what

[topaz rampart]

which IMO is just madness. Never have I seen a game where a character let alone a pet character needs 16 stats

[young compass]

why would we want 16 stats

[topaz rampart]

go ask the game designer.

[midnight elk]

I have no problem in making perfect illuvials harder to get. And if community wants it this way, great.
But from what you said it seems impossible to get a 100 tpi.
Also, i hate that i spent so much time and money creating my "perfect illuvials" only to see they are not

[young compass]

300% is perfect stats

[topaz rampart]

yep there will most likely never be 100 TPI illuvials.

[topaz rampart]

only for arena.

[young compass]

ur kidding

[midnight elk]

Great, the only mode i hate playing

[young compass]

no, if u get 300% stat which is perfect it is good for all games

[topaz rampart]

the MMO might have 8-10 stats

[topaz rampart]

that would mean all games would be limited to having only 6 stats max per illuvial.

[tawdry sluice]

Read the Blogs mate 🙂

[midnight elk]

It seems like not. There will be more stats in future games. So your 300% in other games will become a 670% maybe

[young compass]

8-10 variable stats?
so ur saying if i got a 300% stats rn, it will show 2-4 more stats that idk about when mmo launches?

[topaz rampart]

now I understand why not more ppl are upset about this. They don't read the blog 😅

[young compass]

i read but skip most of it
if u need to have a blog to explain a simple stuff like stats

[topaz rampart]

correct each illuvial has 16 traits. Only 6 are visible atm.

[tawdry sluice]

Not many people do...
Apparently not even councils 😄

[young compass]

Lmao

[tight cipher]

Or didn't understand it.

[young compass]

That doesnt make sense at all
Why would anyone buy stuff lol

[midnight elk]

True.
Its a huge lottery.
If they go this path, maybe the solution would be to give adjusted traits based on what they already have.
Idk

[topaz rampart]

Illuvium being a scam artist as of late

[tight cipher]

It definitely erodes customer trust.

[young compass]

it just doesnt make sense

[midnight elk]

But since my 300% jokull is only 97 tpi, it means that the rest of his traits are trash

[topaz rampart]

this could make sense if it was released along side with the MMO.

[young compass]

it only make sense if it is NOT hidden lmao

[topaz rampart]

but the MMO should be the most complex game and therefore should have the maximum possible stats.

[midnight elk]

Still bad to put aditional traits after you bought, lol

[young compass]

it is like marrying my wife and turns out shes a dude

[midnight elk]

More like having 6 kids with my wife and finding out she had 10 more from another marriage

[young compass]

lmao

is this a jerry springer show

im pretty sure this is a misunderstanding, ive asked aaron in gen chat

[midnight elk]

My 300% jokull woth 97 tpi says otherwise.
His hidden stats are trash

[topaz rampart]

btw, does anyone in here know what Hearts Ablaze is?

[tight cipher]

A joke from way back about Illuvium making a dating game called Hearts Ablaze.

[topaz rampart]

/facepalm

we sure need 16 stats for that one for sure.

[tight cipher]

I'm still holding out hope for it and Illuvikart.

[young compass]

Mojo is one

[topaz rampart]

WOW has 6 attributes

[young compass]

There are more from gears

[unreal anchor]

Even 6 features can be confusing for new players, where did 16 come from?

[topaz rampart]

that's gear and not character intrinsic

[tight cipher]

Do a search on Aaron and read his posts from the 25th.

[unreal anchor]

It's actually that simple..

[young compass]

yes, thats why 16 intrinsic stats just dont make sense

[topaz rampart]

I mean I could even go as far 10 or 12. But 16??? Come on...

[young compass]

Why not 160
keep em guessing

i still dnt think we have 16 variable stats

[tawdry sluice]

Read the Blogs
And this is not token, rational and constructive posts are appreciated in #1020759212172775464 🙂

[young compass]

i read it twice, still dnt make sense haha

lets just IIP to make 6 stats ever, and just ignore the other 10

lets just make sure arena works before even considering "other games"

we have been trying to simplify the ecosystem, lately by merging 3 fuels into 1.
16 stats is just another unnecesary over complexity

[unreal anchor]

If the MMO Lite were ready right now, maybe the players here could understand this situation. But discussing 16 stats now for something that will be released in 6 or 8 months is really exhausting… and it's a disappointment for players who have spent a lot of money in the community

[topaz rampart]

and we don't even know if the MMO will utilize those 16 stats so...

[unreal anchor]

yea right!!

[gusty sinew]

I got a 98

[midnight elk]

Hidden stats

[young compass]

Update.
The council has discussed this concern.
The team is looking at it. Awaiting further info.
End of message.

[midnight elk]

Thank you so much 🙏

[urban hornet]

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Just so I don't have to write it out twice.

I will note the irony of calling these 'hidden stats' when the entire purpose of it was that we had games not yet in production, and many in the future, so the stats system was a solution to make them VISIBLE when you first got your illuvial, so that we wouldn't have to make them up later and have you feel rugged. I even talked about it 3 years ago.

Ah well.

[young compass]

LFG

[midnight elk]

It wasn't an irony. Ironies help no one.
I just found on general chat that's what they are called and they were added together with the tpi
I would enjoy more stats, just not to affect existing perfect illuvials