Arena/Gauntlet Leviathan

[grave perch]

My opinion is that there are too many game modes.
I would like if all the modes would be as leviathan.
This way it would be simpler, will not dilute the players among too many game modes and will give the illuvials extra utility.
So you would only have casual and ranked.
In both the stats will count.
Thanks!

[supple spade]

I agree with this. 2 modes, Ascendant and Gauntlet both leviathan rules. Get rid of casual, nobody is playing it anyway 😅

I was playing leviathan Gauntlet yesterday and got destroyed. I immediately got the urge to jump back into the OW to grind levels/ find better stats. That's exactly what Arena should be doing imo

[grave perch]

Also there is a difference between players that invested into the game and the free players.
The investing players want to give their assets full utility, meanwhile the free players want the free content
So ofcourse the free players would like to keep the games casual so they are at equal levels with paying players.
But things shouldn't be equal.
You play with what you own
And that reflects your level of investition

[tribal wharf]

I disagree you should have Ranked and Levithan. This game can never be a competive e-sport in Levithan its a Vanity Project for whales. Levels can matter but stats have to be normalized for competitive events. Ascedant where levels matter (Should be Ranked) and Levithan where stats and Level matter. Stats can also be a key factor in PVE content like raids and OVerworld combat but for gauntlet and arena Stats can't be include and have any sort of balance.

[serene vine]

This is not as simple as that, building a non leviathan deck for ascendant already costs like 3-4 web2 games. Building a competitive leviathan deck is probably 5-10 times more expensive. In the end who will be playing these games?

[grave perch]

Ok, thanks
You have a point

[grave perch]

Yeah, i believe it is quite expensive 🤔

[serene vine]

Your point on the modes and queue dilution is 100% correct though.

[dusty flint]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1279633386373255260

[dusty flint]

This is how i see both casual and ranked working

[supple spade]

Clash Royale eSports are doing just fine and you need to spend $100s of dollars to fast track to a competitive deck.

[dusty flint]

There will be tournaments for Leviathan and Casual Ranked

[grave perch]

Yeah, i was just trying to undilute (i dont know if this is a word) the playerbase among games

[supple spade]

Thing is though I don't think people understand the motivations of whales. They're not interested in playing against other whales in a mode all on their own. They want to flex on f2p players and farm them. That's how they get their dopamine hit. Split the lobbies and whales won't play 🤷‍♂️

[dusty flint]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1280458487364845578
^ this right here is the way. If they implement what i wrote in that thread, were gonna see much progress

[serene vine]

Been said million already, hope they implement it fast

[grave perch]

This is a great idea, and it seems everyone agrees. Cant wait to see it implemented

[round terrace]

we have too many modes and not enough players for them. agreed. Make it Training - against Ai. Ascendant (Ranked) and Leviathan Ranked. Casual has to go. Leave in place the custom for guilds and tournaments etc. Now this is for all arena modes in my opinion. If you want to test something do it against ai, all pvp should be ranked