IIP-XX Esports Committee

[tender spear]

Summary

We currently have four committees surrounding the IMC: Marketing, Game Design, Strategy, and Operations. With the launch of our competitive scene, this proposal suggests introducing an Esports Committee as a fifth committee to assist the IMC and the Team in this area.

Overview/Implementation

Formation:
The Esports Committee will, like the existing committees, consist of five industry experts.

Appointment:
Committee members will be nominated by ILV token holders and appointed by the IMC. Selections will be based on expertise, knowledge, and a vested interest in the project. Due to the potential access to confidential information, all committee members will be required to sign a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) shortly after their appointment.

Role:
The Esports Committee will provide expert advice to the IMC and the Team, ensuring decisions are well-informed and carefully considered. This committee will focus on developing the esports programs and offering expert guidance on all aspects of the competitive scene within Illuvium.

Rationale

The competitive scene in the Arena is the driving force of the Illuvium ecosystem. Our tokenomics model, which reserves 1 million ILV for the in-game reward pool, is a significant asset for onboarding new players. With the launch of Illuvium and the Arena games nearing readiness, it's time to prepare the competitive scene.

Players from our target audience have high standards, and first impressions are critical. Establishing an Esports Committee will help Illuvium build and nurture a strong competitive scene, attracting new players and generating additional revenue for our ecosystem.

[twilit walrus]

How much are current committees actually helping? It hard to say becuase all of it is probably ffrom behind the scened. But would love to hear from someone in IMC about that.

[tender spear]

Yea id like to know more about this too. I believe Illuvium could greatly benefit from expert guidance when it comes to building and fostering a competitive scene

We are betting so heavily on this with how our ecosystem is built up and how we have 1M ilv tokens for in-game reward

[mighty oxide]

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[hallow comet]

This proposal somewhat misunderstands the purpose and structure of committees in the current governance framework. Committees are industry leaders that the councils can speak to on an as-needed basis for specific strategic questions related to their areas of expertise. There are no standing meetings and no need to have a Labs member on any committee as they can be requested to provide information at any time already by the councils

Committee members are fairly lightly utilized on an ongoing basis but have been leveraged for a number of targeted topics over this epoch

A number of the committee members on the Gaming committee have strong backgrounds in esports games. If we feel as a community that’s lacking, the main thrust should be on increasing that skill set at Labs, not on a committee IMO

True esports requires us to have a much further developed product in Gauntlet or Arena with a larger player base so this epoch is probably too soon to really discuss this. Tournament structures and leagues are absolutely appropriate though at this point in time

[twilit walrus]

What's the difference in "committee member" and "friend of the project"? Do committee members sign NDA and have extra information?

[tender spear]

Its exactly how as i understand it, for the one member from lab i got this part from the gov3 proposal. If it changed since i wasnt aware of it

Illuvium will soon have to take some important decisions around the competitive scene. We highly bet on this with the way our ecosystem is built up with our 1M in-game reward. I believe as Illuvium start to launch its competitive scene we could greatly benefit from expert guidance as needed through a committee

[tender spear]

As per Gov v3 IIP they do sign an NDA

[twilit walrus]

There is a ICCP-16 that changed how committees work so it's not 3+1 anymore. There is missing wording in the ICCP as that is not mentions, but quoting Rich: Given the exceptional talent pool, we have passed ICCP-16 to include five members per committee instead of the originally planned three and a Core Contributor.

[hallow comet]

Yes, this is exactly the key difference. They sign NDAs, serve formally and have been very responsive whenever we’ve asked. Just general friends of the project are plentiful but don’t have a formal structure like this

[grave goblet]

I like the idea of an esports committee. This committee can advise Labs in what to prioritize to get Illuvium to be esports ready. This comes from a wide variety of topics from backend work (APIs, database etc) to rules, accreditation requirements etc.

I know Labs was supposed to hire an esports manager @mighty oxide can you share if this pushed through or not? Cause if this pushed through then an esports committee might not be needed when we already have a paid expert whos supposed to do all these.

[mighty oxide]

Yeah we did

Works in tandem with TSG

[grave goblet]

Can you also share if all the topics shared here is already being covered by the esports manager and tsg? Or better yet can just tag him here so he/she can share what theyre planning to get Illuvium to be esports ready?

That would give insights if theres a need for the committee or not.

[tender spear]

Im happy to hear theres now an Esports manager. You are right scruba, then it might not be necessary, but still i feel it could be great to have this person + an Esports committee. As you already asked if we could tag this person and hear a little bit about the plan id also like to hear the opinion of that person on this topic

[grave goblet]

Might be easier to just add an esports expert in the game committee than make a full group. Food for thought.

[tender spear]

A committee of one? Is that even a committee now? 😄

[grave goblet]

eh? We have a gaming committee already filled with experts who developed games. The idea is to add another expert but centered on esports gaming as its still under the umbrella of gaming. rather than creating a separate sub-group

[tender spear]

Oh ok i see, misread that and thought you said it might be better to have 1 expert in the esports committee

Yes i like this, id go as far as to propose at least 2/5 centered around esport

Can committee change mid epoch or we would need to wait 9 months?

[grave goblet]

It's not an elective position so I don't see why we can't appoint based on need.

[tired walrus]

There's also not a hard need to have a super limited number of committee members. Unlike council, where having odd numbers is desirable to avoid tied votes, and keeping discussions concise is valuable, committee members can be asked to provide their perspective and do that without needing to reach concensus.

Just to point out that there's no reason for 5 committee members to be a bottleneck whatsoever. If there are 6 or 7 or 8 members who can provide valuable input, that's equally functional in my opinion.

[hallow comet]

Agreed here. I think potentially seeking out someone with a major esports background (maybe someone associated with Overwatch?) would be value added

[tender spear]

Appreciate your inputs @tired walrus @grave goblet@hallow comet
Another thing that might help us assess the need here is to know who that Esport Manager works with. Is he/she alone, is there going to be more people directly expert in esports or is he/she leading it with some of the game-design team?

In any case, i still firmly believe that we would greatly benefit from having an Esports Committee

5 people just for that may seem overkill but i dont think it is as this is one of the most important aspect of our ecosystem thats about to be built up. It doesnt cost anything and its on an as-needed basis

I like the idea of putting 1-2 esports expert in the game-design one but then is it really easier if we still have to ICCP for more than 5 members + ratio of game-design vs esports expert within the game design one?

@hallow comet Even if Overwatch has put a lot of efforts in their esports programs i dont think they would necessarily be the bests for us in this early stage where all we have is arena. Someone from TCG's or directly from auto battlers such as TFT would be better placed to advise imo as its the same format/game

[mighty oxide]

too many cooks in the kitchen

thats my opinion

[tender spear]

Is that how you feel its been with the other committees so far?

[mighty oxide]

Not committees no. But I think those committees aren't “eSports” people who I've come to find can't find common ground on much

At least in my experience

When we’re both the smartest person in the room. Who's wrong?

[tender spear]

Fair enough, although its anecdotale, i can see what you mean here

I feel like multiple "expert" opinions is still beneficial here because in a committee role there doesnt have to be a right or wrong or even a general consensus as Blickter pointed out

They are just experts available to answer questions and provide guidance as needed

[mighty oxide]

Maybe I'm just a pessimistic you're right.

[dire jolt]

Looks good to me.

[tender spear]

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[delicate mural]

ill upload it to github

@tender spear as binet mentioned, the current committee structure include 5 members instead of 3 plus 1 from team. this proposal is proposing the 3+1, ru still going for that?
and this proposal is going to be an ICCP to IIP-42, adding a committee under gov v3

[tender spear]

No no it was just an error, i based it on initial 3+1 but now its just 5 members

Ill edit it here and yes all good for ICCP if you think thats the better route

[delicate mural]

all right

[delicate mural]

ICCP-21
@mighty oxide

[delicate mural]

@tender spear less than 24 hours for the next epoch, and the new council gonna need their voting power enabled too

[tender spear]

Ok thanks for the heads up

[knotty minnow]

Hey wouldn't this be an GCCP? (Governance Configuration Change Proposals)

Since it is making a change to the Governance V3 (introduction of a 5th commitee)?

Just want to be sure this gets pushed correctly and voted on accordingly on github

[delicate mural]

let me read the gov v3 again

ok i read that GIP and GCCP are mentioned
but i cant find the explanation on what they are and what kind of things that should go there

but anyway, we are less than 24 hours to epoch 10
it's probably better for the new ICC to take over this proposal?

but ur right it's prob a GCCP
good catch!

[knotty minnow]

Hey @tender spear - my previously message got removed right after clicking send - as part of being more transparent on the delay, see below:

TLDR:

• new ICC is working on this
• this is the first GCCP being uploaded for voting and we are discussing
• a supermajority of 7 out of 10 votes across both councils (ICC & IMC) required to pass it (image excerpt from Gov V3)

We are working diligently to get this up for voting as soon as possible