Bonding curve for Holos

[young pike]

We have minted almost as many holos as there are non-holos. This completely undermines the point that holos are supposed to be rare.

With the recent changes to only spend energy when capturing an illuvial instead of spending to enter an encounter, players are only catching holos. Since there are almost always 2-5 holos per run, it basically uses all the available energy just on holos.

We should either revert to the previous state of spending energy per encounter, introduce a bonding curve for holos, or do both.

This is very time-sensitive and should be changed ASAP!

[dusky galleon]

Dont you think the reason why theres so many holos vs non holos is because people are just actively trying to hunt holos? So the question here should be hows the current encounter rate of holos in game? Is it at par with what Labs wanted it or is it higher/lower? This is something maybe @gusty willow can confirm without giving specific numbers.

[young pike]

yes that's correct this is due to people only hunting for holos. My inventory right now is 90+% holo.

[dusky galleon]

How many holos do you usually encounter each run and how many of them are of higher tier and stage?

[young pike]

it depends on the region's stage but my experience has been 2-5 holos per run and 0-2 are high tier/stage.
I think the problem is how players spend their energy now and not with the holo rarity itself. Although I would slightly tune it down.

[true badge]

Maybe it should be rare like the shinys in Pokemon

[young pike]

the problem is not that they aren't rare but rather the change to the energy consumption per capture instead of per encounter. This completely changed player behaviour making it so players basically only mint holos...

[sharp granite]

Holos should be, at least, not autoscanned. It ruins the sensation of finding a holo running

[long bone]

interesting problem - I think having less holos available vs the amount of ergon energy available would make sense - max two per region maybe, using only c1,200 energy

[thorn estuary]

You can see the number of holos vs. non-holo on the Illuvidex.

Counting everything (T0 included): 150k non-holos, 21k holos
Counting T1+: 37.8k non-holos, 10.4k holos

Should at least look at the data. There's nowhere near as many holos as there are non-holos.

Overall about 12% are holos.
For T1+, 21.5% are holos.

Just use these filters and confirm for yourself. Easy to say nearly as many holos as non-holos, but not true in reality.

[young pike]

I wasn't counting T0's when I looked up

these numbers aren't as bad as I was thinking

T1 colour - 10771
T1 holo - 6844

T3 colour - 4642
T3 holo - 1344

T5 colour - 1315
T5 holo - 45

just to be clear I did check but it was like 2 days ago, numbers are looking better now.

[tribal viper]

There is no bonding curve for holos?