GFP-XX Training Grounds, Illuvial Staking and TrainingDex

[hollow hinge]

Simple Summary

1. Create the Training Grounds structure in Illuvium Zero. This structure offers a way to passively train Illuvials, allowing them to earn experience. Landowners can utilize Training Grounds to train their own Illuvials or rent any unused spaces out to other rangers.

2. Introduce the concept of Illuvial staking in Illuvium Zero by allowing landowners to stake Illuvials into the Training Grounds. Staked Illuvials act as teachers, providing an experience bonus to matching Illuvials undergoing training in the same Training Grounds.

3. Implement a player-driven marketplace for training Illuvials (TrainingDex) where landowners can advertise their Training Grounds, and rangers can easily browse through the available options.

Full Proposal:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT_1sF0CgeeBqg66TuwWxvTeufG1ENtXfgfF_pjxZyNdmi9B4YVBzbUcuVyigIyyFxrrnSlZnIYIEji/pub

Sponsor: @hollow hinge

Key Contributors: @rose pebble , @dreamy moss , @frail wedge , @distant verge

[tardy tiger]

Did you just set all the parameters of the building after they rejected the previous idea for being "too specific"? 😂😂

Please read that comment as just something I just found funny and not a critique

Love the idea and effort you put into this

[hollow hinge]

i honestly just changed the IIP to GFP, as far as i'm aware i'm allowed to be specific then, since it is a gfp now 😄

[tardy tiger]

Ahh

[earnest ibex]

LFG

[pale ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-brilliant-alesha-dixon-britains-got-talent-that-is-magnificent-superb-gif-25735170

[deft tulip]

MILZGA 🙌

[alpine gull]

I think it should be taken for granted that individual balance parameters in a feature proposal are to be determined by the game designers and wider team. If the community wants to fix specific parameters that should be via separate ICCP once feature is accepted for development and typically after launch when people can actually play something.

EDIT: Would still think it is a good idea to put specific parameters in to illustrate an idea, but it should be understood to be informative not normative (i.e. not binding).

Similar for the mechanics. Specific mechanics evovle through game design iterations, play testing, developer feedback, etc. Locking down exactly how some system works before any iteration and having to build it exactly like that regardless of how well it actually works is not a good idea.

[dreamy moss]

They still dont want GFP to be specific as far as I am aware.

[tardy tiger]

yup, totally

[distant verge]

@alpine gull do you have any idea of what the developers have planned already regarding training gyms/grounds? Could these submissions just be a waste of time due to the already planned development?

[alpine gull]

I'm about 99% sure there are no plans in regards to this feature. Its just an idea/proposal that hasn't moved to design phase.

I mean individuals might have thought about it, but nothing written down/shared.

(as far as I am aware, I reserve 1% of doubt as I am out of the loop)

[distant verge]

Okay

[earnest ibex]

will upload this to github

[grim kraken]

I think this is good idea.
Thanks Dr. Spoon. LFG

[grim kraken]

Let's give a sign of hope!

[distant verge]

I'm listening to the latest ama with @hasty kestrel and @vital nebula and he said that they are adding Training Gyms. He listed it after Megacities and blueprints.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X2mMExsykw8

[alpine gull]

Going to do it (based on community sentiment) and design/dev is in progress are different things.

I think everyone is very keen on the general idea.

[grim kraken]

Yes, this is a good for landowner;
allow to utilize their illuvial other than trade or arena. 🔥

[earnest ibex]

yes, just have to make sure the cost to passively train illuvials is high enough to not disincentivize playing OW

leveling illuvials in OW requires:

• crypton
• consumables for illuvials fatigue
• consumables for winning fights
• leveled up illuvials for winning fights

• play time

the illuvials you bring to OW need

• crypton to farm shards
• hyperion to cure shards
• crypton to level up
• solon and gems to fuse

the consumables need crypton and play time to farm as well

[jade rapids]

This is incorrect. GFP can be as specific as they want to be, because we want community members to be able to express their ideas. GFP as a category are looser than IIP/ICCP, and it's clearly stated in the proposal for GFP that any specified parameters can be changed.

The important thing is that someone can get their idea across clearly, and if that means including specification for examples or ballparks of how they see things working, that's a good thing. It just means that if someone lists, for example, 25% for some parameter, the final result doesn't have to be 25%.

GFPs are neutral to the amount of specification included, so that people proposing these systems can get their ideas across clearly without having to tiptoe around whether they are being too specific or not. There could be a lot, there could be a little or even no specification. But, "Due to the nature of gameplay features, any specified element may need to be adjusted at the discretion of Illuvium Labs during development, with no limitations."

TL;DR: Authors should focus on communicating their ideas, and not on the legalese required for IIP/ICCP.

Supportive of the overall idea, and excited we have a way to pass proposals like this now. Well done.

[dreamy moss]

That's what I meant hahah I just didn't communicate it well apologies. More that there is no need to be specific on technical details, and that Labs and sometimes the IMC prefers it that way, from a game design perspective

[hollow hinge]

GFP's was specifically designed so one with a cool idea can write up as specific as he thinks is needed to carry over the idea one has to the team.
The IIP was never meant to be "you have to implement that 2.37% multiplier" it was always meant to be "that's" what i would like to see and do with it whatever you want to make it work and be Illuvium-style.
They might have to take whole features out or need/want to implement an additional feature to make it work and i'm totally fine with that. 🙂

[hollow hinge]

Thank you 🙂
Was a team effort, @rose pebble wrote a big part of it aswell.

[grim kraken]

Thanks @rose pebble
Let's hope this one able to implement as soonest as possible.
Land progress are so much lack behind already.
we all hope there are some add on actually. (or only I hope? 😅 ) I'm assuming all land owners' hope )

[hollow hinge]

i'm sure they can figure it out.

In my opinion, the OW isn't meant to be the main leveling mode, since as you pointed out it is pretty expensive, while in arena or in other future games you can do it for free.
You for sure get as many EXP as possible out of a run, but you don't go on a run to explicitly level Illuvials.

[earnest ibex]

GFP-01
@novel musk

[alpine gull]

I forgot to add, I support this general idea too 😉 ... I think its very cool and I like the tie to staking.

[dreamy moss]

Fair enough

[novel musk]

https://snapshot.org/#/community.ilv-gov.eth/proposal/0xa17f2aa99fbdb3923ae75177cd3afddb81d721e18b9198054c82b46a9233697e <@&1107754780744487002>

[earnest ibex]

thx rich