#I have a suggestion for testnet rewards.

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grizzled phoenix
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I learned that those who want to receive the reward at the end of the testnet will be able to receive 50% and will not be able to receive the remaining part, and that there will be a 3-month vesting for those who want to withdraw the entire reward.

I don't know if it is technically possible, but I recommend that the entire reward amount should be available for those who want to spend their rewards on the mainnet.

unreal badger
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I think an option where you could claim in fuel instead of ILV and make 100% instant claimable would have been neat, for all those who want to reinvest.

grizzled phoenix
unreal badger
harsh cloak
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I would strongly recommend offering a early redemption choice for a Fuel Crate equal to your ILV reward as it would save ILV from being dumped and players losing value in gas fees and so on. It also recycles more of the economic energy into getting the game off the ground with sufficient players.

grizzled phoenix
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should reward those who want to put their earnings back into the ecosystem😁

harsh cloak
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If the team want to incentivise this option then a 25% kicker in fuel value should do the trick. For small rewards it also makes sense to at least round it up to a spendable amount.

unreal badger
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@rocky halo I know it's late and you guys have a lot on the plate.
But would it be debatable and implementable to add fuel crates as a claim option for mainnet Airdrop?
Basically:

  • ILV with vesting as it is already set
  • Fuel crates without vesting claimable in certain size of pieces and periods over the whole Airdrop phase.
harsh cloak
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I just would prefer to see people attracted by the Airdrop stay and play the game rather than cut and running. It's also good community building having people bug hunt, stress test and providing feedback with the view of making a great game.

grizzled phoenix
unreal badger
grizzled phoenix
dawn frost
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problem is IMX doesnt support contract

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and we want to do it on L2

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this idea has been raised multiple times before we started

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i like it
its just there are some considerations:

  • its allowing people to cash out early like sILV2 when we are suppose to wait
  • can reduce revdis
  • fuel crate will act as a liability just like silv2
unreal badger
# dawn frost problem is IMX doesnt support contract

I don't understand that, fuel crates got dropped in l2 already what's the difference?

  • why would you be supposed to wait instead of being able to spending everything on Day 1 if you want to do that? What's the favourable behaviour for the dao, wait or spend immediately?
  • instead of a possible token devaluation. The one who Receives it for sure likes more options, but what would be more favourable for the dao?
  • what would be favourable for dao? Token devaluation or liability in Form of fuel?
dawn frost
unreal badger
# dawn frost - imagine people use sILV2, landowners use their fuel crate and farmers use the ...
  • yea silv2 is anyways wrecking the first few months of revenue, landowners fuel crate is 1m (not really too big of an impact), there's probably still many people taking out ilv instead of fuel... could even do something like -15% of value if you claim all now in fuel
  • yea tha'ts pretty obvious 😄 some sell some don't.... Wouldn't it be good for the DAO if actually the tokens wouldn't be claimed and fuel used instead? So token doesn't get diluted, pricepool for marketing is still high in terms of give away $ when infact some would take a voucher, the fuel would be money staying in the economy for sure and not be taken out.
  • with the amount of silv2 first months anyways hard to see some good revnue the first months, except we onboard a shitton of new people. And it's not said that it's actually super bad sentiment if first few months don't look golden... we just launched, we have some bugs to iron out, some ui to improve, gauntlet improvements etc. everybody knows that... many of those things could draw sentiment down, but on the other hand many things could be used as excuse for the moment... we knew... we will update that stuff, and we will onboard new players then, and overtake the world after that....
dawn frost
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from the chat in token, i think people are watching revdis very closely now.
some might say revdis is the one that can make our token out perform eth.
i dnt think there is right or wrong here.
just different strategies.

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look at how high the proposed starting fuel top rails are.
it kinda looks like the dutch auction we had

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maybe some eager people will pay those high prices to have a head start, while normal players would just chill and play lower stages

marble bone
viral mulch
toxic moss
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There was other threads about this and it sounds like a good idea but if people can sell the fuel doesnt it come down to the same thing?

I claim 100% airdrop in fuel, i sell fuel and get 100% airdrop in ETH, ez

unreal badger
toxic moss
unreal badger
toxic moss
pseudo yarrow
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but if its not possible then yeah should be a good idea

dawn frost
tough goblet
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i struggle with the idea to reduce our initial numbers of revdis more then we need to.
We need to produce the results to win new investors, u can just claim 50% and sell, start playing.
people could also just invest some money into playing, and keep the airdrop vested since it will still pay for your initial investment.
i think allowing token to be claimed as fuel, is a very bad idea.
This is 100% robbing our own statistics, just got to have the best cards in hand in case we need a vc round.
u have options, its not on our end to finance your start into the game, i think the free ride ends after the airdrop. we have done enough at that point.

harsh cloak
# tough goblet i struggle with the idea to reduce our initial numbers of revdis more then we ne...

I struggle to see your logic. "Free Ride" Really..? When people who grinded for days reporting bugs figure out they got "paid" about 10 cents per hour remind them again that they where free loaders. Before you say but...but...but they played a game. Let me remind you that all resources they mined, all illuvials they captured, all items they forged are worthless and wont be accessible. Most did it because they wanted to lend a hand. The locusts that did not report bugs and used bots to max earnings will not play once they have to pay - so they wont take the Fuel option as they will take the ILV dump it for ETH and move on. The Fuel option is only being suggested by people who would like to at least recycle the reward back into the game. Locusts don't want that. Which one are you?

tough goblet