Rerolls Locks

[gloomy raven]

I suggest that we can lock certain stats before rerolling. the more stats you lock, the more expensive the rerol is

[stable seal]

Im scared this would devalue leviathan worth illuvials. Sounds like a good way to milk people though, what do you think of locking only 1 stat max?

[buoyant citrus]

I honestly don't like this feature at all. I wonder what would even be the lore behind this? You capture an illuvial with specific traits and then you can change them all up by simply spending solon.

[stable seal]

Maybe he burns and reborn (remint) lore wise

[buoyant citrus]

looks like sanctum mesa needs a funeral pyre

[frozen cargo]

i dnt think we should worry about lore anymore lol

[terse flare]

Top of my head is your ranger is doing gene splicing or experimenting on manipulating genes hehehe

[buoyant citrus]

I'm sorry guys, but this makes absolutely no sense. It's a bad feature and I'm sad to see so many of you going along with it.

Sure we needed solon sinks, and re-forging weapons/armours/drone upgrades was a great addition. That coupled with master shards/fusion costs/auto-scan and skin crafting I'm starting to think now solon is the most needed fuel.

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1262427722240495737
I was suggesting to redistribute stats instead of re-rolling but after some more though I'm fully against this feature at all. Re-rolling illuvial stats makes no sense and even worse it takes away meaning to hunting.

[buoyant citrus]

When I suggested to improve the fusion process the answer was "no thoughts".
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But then we go and implement something a lot worse, basically turning illuvium into a casino for whales...

[worldly depot]

I have to fully agree. I have no idea who had this brilliant idea, but if it comes with the main net, good luck to all of us.

[merry moth]

I'm for Illuvium attracting big whales especially if the reroll ROI is negative

Why not adding a little bit of luck control as long as it is really expensive, if you lock 1 stat it must cost 3 times more solon for instance

Maybe you could only reroll a limited number of times

[buoyant citrus]

I don't think that is accurate. You're "attracting big whales" by devaluing high stats illuvials. If stats don't matter and I can just re-roll them then I'll simply buy the cheapest rhamphyre in the market and re-roll its stats until I'm happy instead of having to go buy the expensive ones with near perfect stats.

Also, limiting the number of re-rolls doesn't seem like a good idea at all.

[merry moth]

It doesn't devalue high stats illuvials if the reroll ROI is negative

If a whale needs to spend on average $100k to get an illuvial with 4 perfect stats you still have an incentive to keep hunting

[buoyant citrus]

that's the thing, you're assuming it's ROI is negative. You don't need to hit perfect stats, just good enough stats...

[gloomy raven]

It's all about balance. This adds one more reason to spend money on the marketplace. An added layer of purchase resale. There will be people interested just in doing this.

[merry moth]

I'm not assuming I'm suggesting

I'm not sure where you're getting at, perfect stats > good enough

It's all about how expensive it is, if it costs $1M to reroll an illuvial it won't devalue high stats, we just need to find the right price

[buoyant citrus]

you don't need to burn anything so I don't see how this adds anything. You simply buy one of each and you're done. Just need to re-roll their stats.

[gloomy raven]

it's like buying a house, paying to improve it and reselling it while paying taxes to the state

[gloomy raven]

Reroll is free ? i don't think

[buoyant citrus]

I'm saying that you don't spend to roll for perfect stats, you spend until you hit good enough stats.

[gloomy raven]

could be very expensive then

[buoyant citrus]

well I don't think it is with current prices

[merry moth]

Yeah it might be worth increasing current prices

Although T5S3 cost 16k solon wich is worth around $150 I think so these ones are probably expensive enough

[buoyant citrus]

yes but you're calculating this with current fuel prices which are at the top rail-guard. Fuel prices will only go down from there.

re-rolling T5S1 is way cheaper. I can just get 9 of those re-roll their stats and fuse them.

to me the only way this feature would make sense is if you would have to burn 1 illuvial.

[worldly depot]

It’s so funny seeing you talking about massive amounts when there is no money in the market from Illuvium (Zero, Beyond).

The same people are exchanging their account balances in the hope that some bigger fish will come and buy their bags.

Suppose the inflow of new people (with deep pockets) doesn’t change anytime soon (from nobody to some).
In that case, nobody will buy any of your dream valuations,
and neither would Illuvium Labs make any money in the long haul.

[merry moth]

Talking about big valuations makes sense when talking about an ambitious Web3 game, the goal is to create both a high quality game and a highly profitable one

We're not talking about free rerolls, if they are expensive then they don't devalue the game

[buoyant citrus]

I know we had free ETH to spend, but during PB4 we hit a massive supply of illuvials in a very short time.

What do you guys think of the idea of combining 2 illuvials to re-roll stats while bringing the solon costs a bit down? Something along the lines of fusing but it would only take 2 illuvials and they don't evolve to the next stage.

[frozen cargo]

really depends on the total supply and bonding curve.
if the team over estimated demand then we have to introduce more illuvials burning

[buoyant citrus]

we only have one game that needs OW assets now and the lowest player base we'll ever have. So no, we currently don't have demand for the supply. The question is do we want to have this supply for the future or do we wanna introduce another burn mechanic besides fusing.

[frozen cargo]

im always for lower supply