holo/dark holo base stats

[grave gate]

Considering regular illuvials have a range between 0-100% base stats, the holos should have something like 30-100% and dark holo 50-100%, this way they will have a slight tendency of being actually good to play with...

[azure saddle]

I don't agree with that. I'm okay with them just being rare and different. They don't have to be better.

[grave gate]

they wont be better! just tend to have good base stats, or we will pretty much NEVER even see one in the leviathan arena

[clear storm]

"Good to play with" only matters in leviathan for the whale mode.

I dont think making stats better on average would make them more special. Actually it would make the real good stats holo/dark holo less special

[grave gate]

with the odds like they are now, there will never be a version of dark holo illuvials with big stats for most of the creatures by the time thay bring new ones

[clear storm]

I caught an almost perfect stats DH synalph yesterday and we just got them

He wouldnt be as special and as expensive as he would be now if the stats were all boosted for DH

If you want the extremely rare good stats DH rhamphyre going for infinite money i think it would be an error to boost stats

[cyan schooner]

something is not working here - I have 6 characters of 1 type + a hero
=7 and it shows me 2
holo* 6

[grave gate]

same character won't add up synergies

[grave gate]

it can be just a slight different, like a 10-15% boost. it feels terrible to get a dark holo with pathetic stats

[clear storm]

Thing with leviathan is that pathetic 0% stats is pretty much the same as 75% top stats

Only very very good stats will be worth more than floor price

[grave gate]

yeah, so it's a slight higher tendency to be a good creature for dark holo. it's not massive. fun for overworld players as well.

[clear storm]

If we raise the avg it becomes the new standard, i doubt it would feel more special tbh

But your real good ones would surely feel less special

[grave gate]

maybe not for holos, but dark holos are too rare to find to have the chance of being that bad with less then 15% base stat. but what you're saying makes sense

I am not against what yopu are saying btw, just thinking together

[clear storm]

Having bad stats is not bad its the 75+% norm, only truly top stats matter for $ value and leviathan use

[grave gate]

and current level, i guess. whats maximum level? 60?

[clear storm]

Yea, i also get your point of view but i think we dont agree because we see what bad stats represent differently

[grave gate]

what is the use of a dark holo with bad stats?

[clear storm]

No max, but impossible to attain max

[grave gate]

really? i think there should be a cap. but interesting concept

[clear storm]

No illuvial need good stats to be used. They mostly all have bad stats for leviathan use, only a small subset of illuvials will have near perfect stats, or atleast the meaningful ones for that one illuvial and be considered in leviathan

[clear storm]

Well im not 100% sure but thats what i heard

[grave gate]

on the ranked arena, lvl and base stats have no difference, right? other than leviathan and overworld (and potentially another game), the ones with great stats make no difference.

considering this, illuvium needs a good "BREEDING" (fusion) system for those players that are all about trying to create the best possible creature. for that, they need not one but 3 stage ones with 75%+ base stats to generate a stage 2 that's good. imagine trying that for holos etc.

[clear storm]

You dont need all 3 to be 75%+ or all 3 to be holo's. Its all about expected value, some people will pass hours scooting the market all the time to find the profitable fusion of the moment

I think the system is great as it is and i believe boosting DH stats would just make it the new average while devaluing the DH top stats

[grave gate]

you need all 3 to be 75%+ to generate a stage 2 with 75%+, no?

[clear storm]

To have 100% chance of doing this yes but you dont need to

Just like right now for the airdrop points the subsequent set is worth 5x the points so you need to get your trade up right 20% of the time but you have 33%. Extremely profitable ev

[paper turtle]

Completely agree with this. Imagine getting a dark holo Rhamphyre but never using it in competitive matches or overworld because it has shit stats?