#in game streamer mode

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void elbow
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We need a feature so streamers can stream with some wallet doxx protections.

Click a button to anonymize all stats that would doxx a wallet.

Think this should be pretty high priority.

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@fallow raptor

fallow raptor
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I think it would make sense to have this feature, but people can also use seperate wallets/not show screens with wallet information on stream.

Further I am unsure how many features or options passport wallet can give on this topic already.

On a streamer priority side at least from my web2 streaming exp, a streamer mode for PvP to hide your name/enemy name and similar features would be higher prio, speaking as a competitive streamer.
Things like being able to on the front end screen it looks like you joined match making que, but you can set it to only actually join the que in a random interval of your choice e.g. would be great and something other games don´t do, so another seperation of Illuvium caring more for creators

void elbow
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I agree with your stuff too. Land is doxxing with ids and all the stats for illuvials and other stuff is all exactly doxxing

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IIP for comprehensive streamer mode is what we need.

merry arch
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not quite understand why you would hide these stuff when ur a streamer

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from a viewer perspective, it gives the streamer some creds

opal ether
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Unless its super ez to do, i dont think its worth it for the minority of streamers that would want to keep their inventory secret

If they want to they can also use another account to stream easily

void elbow
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It should not be super hard imo, it's an in-line UI update. Streamers will want privacy. It will make it easier to onboard large public-facing streamers who would like to protect themselves.

Doxxing you value or your activities is something people with large following will want for sure.

merry arch
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cagy wallet is known

void elbow
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a redacted person with only 100k followers - what's the point here? We want the biggest, regular streamers to feel comfortable playing.

fallow raptor
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Not having to dox assets on your account is a strict positive, arguing about some people wanting to dox for flex or not seems irrelevant.
If people want to hide information for live stream or video creation purposes having the option is a positive.

Question is how much dev time does this cost and how relevant is it.

void elbow
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yes, I'm not saying stop launch. But it will be a growth driver in the future to have more of the biggest streamers with privacy options available to them

fallow raptor
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I´d use this feature e.g., no reason to show people however much I have in my wallet

void elbow
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or have people yelling at you all the time if you do sell something or have alpha degrade because people are following your wallet or front-running you.

lots of pros.

Question of what features and when.

fallow raptor
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Yeah, people can track wallets on chain etc. but that is not your average viewer, lots would only see the stream/video parts you show them.

merry arch
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cagy and brycent are currently the biggest in web3.
an option to hide it, is good.
just saying as a web3 follower i would want to know wht the streamer is doing on chain

void elbow
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Plus what’s the net value of their on chain in game assets at the moment? Prob sub 30k

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When it’s 100s of thousands or millions. It’s gonna hit different.

You are simply not bullish ILV enough jag

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Last. There will be different types of streamers.

Content - these boys are primarily fun and entertainment based. Cagy and Brycent. They are great and provide a lot of value.

Second group, will be the hard gamers - they will build an audience because they are the best. Being the best will include financial elements.

Third, pure sport competitive. The ones that will win the tornies.

This is for all but definitely the ones performing and winning on chain and in tornies

Shroud vs dr disrespect types.

merry arch
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u can actually see their wallets if u follow the sent ILV prizes

void elbow
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Cool. You're proving my point that people stalk people on chain. Thank you for providing real-time evidence.

I'm sure those are not set aside for prizes and will be the same wallet in which they store all the ILV in-game assets that they use to play the game.

Again Jag, go ask if they would not prefer this option and come back please.

fallow raptor
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people can receive tournament winning or w.e. on different wallets than their ingame assets or investment based assets

people could by themselfs also split wallets etc.
others can track wallets

far minority would do so, avg viewer won´t
vast majority of streamers doesn´t talk about their networth and wouldn´t want the average viewer to know, as the average viewer would then be less inclined to sub/watch ads/etc.

again like I said above, it undoubtedly would be a positive feature to have, we should ask @bitter scroll e.g. if he can check with labs if this is maybe already planned or how much work would go into it

void elbow
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Yes, and for many it will be much simpler if all their assets are in one secure wallet. People will want access to all there assets in one wallet.

We designed this as an ecosystem where all the assets work together.

bitter scroll
# void elbow Cool. You're proving my point that people stalk people on chain. Thank you for p...

But what are you wanting to blur out in this streamer mode? Essentially without blocking everything and not streaming I think if anyone wanted to they could find whatever your doing. For example even if everything is censored out on brycents stream that shows ID #s, wallet addresses etc. If I really wanted to find his wallet, I just watch his stream, and see when he captures X illuvial, watch immutascan at the same time for TX to pop up.. and bam

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I have his wallet and any wallets hes interacting with

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I think if youre a stream and want to be anon its kind of either contradictory, or up your own security and use burner wallets etc. but thats my opinion of it. As for if we are working on something like this, I have not seen or heard of this at all personally internally.

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Like Cagy and Brycent for example have 100% been in crypto long enough to understand the importance of burner wallets and 'hiding' your wallets

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Also as Viper said, 90% of the viewership probably would never care about the persons on-chain activity, let alone have the know how to follow the bread crumbs. So this solution is for a small subset streamers to protect themselves from a small subset of blockchain inspectors, seems unecessary to me, but I do think having more options than less is a good thing. I just dont know what you exactly you want blocked out to make this "streamer" viable

void elbow
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just specific asset information. land id, illuvial stats or anything like that.

With a small delay it would be possible to make it significantly harder or impossible

fallow raptor
# bitter scroll Also as Viper said, 90% of the viewership probably would never care about the pe...

it is more to not show the average viewer your $ value in that wallet, which many people would prefer not to, parallel e.g. has that option in their ingame dashboard as well to hide how much prime you have in that dashboard display

e.g. hiding how much fuel you have could be something because people might not want to "flex" on people when they just buy millions due to current market rates, as that might discourage viewers to sub/accept that there are ads etc. for streamer to make money

bitter scroll
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Yeah Fuel makes sense, and like I said, we could do other things I'm sure, again I'm for more options and privacy. But like ZZ mentions with the delay. This is something on the streamer again. Personally i think anyone with enough money to worry about streaming and people tracking them is smart enough to hide that shit. Or they just dont care as they want to flex. But yea as I said I dont beleive its on any sort of dev timeline, but worth bringing up which I can just tag @modern hare/ @strong seal and maybe they can put it on UI team radar for a post open beta thing.

merry arch
fallow raptor
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Like I said many times already in this thread, I know for a fact people would want and use this, showing off how much money you have in a game or overall might be some niche brand/personality, sure, but the majority of people creating content doesn´t go around talking about how much money they have or spend outside of web3, as in web3 having lots of $ is seen as credentials/quality of content, not in web2.

This whole hyper $ focused mentality of many in web3 is the most off turning thing for people from web2, both creator and viewer/player.

The goal for web3 to succeed means having games people like to engage with for playing, social interactions in game/social media, creating content because the game itself is good and they enjoy playing, and the economy parts are on top as the better version of games we have currently.
Focusing on the economy, how much money do people have/earn etc. instead of gameplay/how well can you create content with it/interact with other people, will just stay a small niche.

merry arch
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web3 is about money

fallow raptor
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yeah, so let´s not aliente web2 streamers and users, web3 people can check on chain

I fail to understand what you want to say, it is objectively good if people can opt into this or choose to share.

merry arch
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i agree with offering the option to hide those data.
but your idea of web3 success is just wrong at the moment

fallow raptor
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I know you like to twist words, but "my idea" of offering something that doesn´t take away from the $ oriented crowd and offers something so you don´t aliente others and can marketing argue you aren´t only $ oriented to counter this main anti web3 argument masses have seems again objectively correct.

have a good day jag, I cba repeating same words over and over

merry arch
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"This whole hyper $ focused mentality of many in web3 is the most off turning thing for people from web2, both creator and viewer/player."

meanwhile ILV :

  • $20M play to airdrop
  • 4 ILV illuvials hunt raffle
  • leaderboard rewards
  • content creator rewards
    u do realize its about money right