#One of a kind guaranteed pull in Alpha D1sks

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brisk juniper
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In light of the following proposal discussions I want to hear the community feedback on this topic.

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Instead of pushing back these things to the end of the set with the misprint auction. Why not do like every other traditional game does and have one of each illuvitar be a guaranteed pull instead of leaving it all to randomness.

The Alpha sale structure would stay basically the same, the only change needed is to limit the number of available Alpha D1sks instead of them being unlimited just like it was in wave 1.

With this we could justify the 2x price multiplier for Alphas and make the Alpha sale launch party a huge event where ideally we could even be monitoring which rare illuvitars have been pulled already.

The sale would run for 48h just like it was in wave 2 or until all Alpha D1sks were sold. If by the end of those 48h we didn't sell out any leftover D1sks would be sent to the DAO.

Let me know what you guys think, if we're quick we can hopefully push this for wave 3.

Let's make Illuvium Beyond Great Again!

fleet anvil
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I really like it!
Having a real justification for the premium, other than trying to deter people from purchasing, whilst simultanously making them a lot more fun to open.

This could be the balance that was needed.
Be interesting to see what others think.

tidal tiger
brisk juniper
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Misprints so far

Extended Version:

Holo Omnipotent Ophisto

Alpha:

Holo Omnipotent Ophisto
Holo Shy Ophisto
Holo Ophisto
Shy Ophisto

Holo Charged Synalph
Holo Dastardly Synalph
Holo Synalph
Charged Synalph

Holo Empowered Umbre
Holo Panting Umbre

Holo Blazing Rhamphy

Let me know if I missed any.

brisk juniper
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We can discuss if it's worth including T1 and T2's in these or not

tidal tiger
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yes, i like that idea but its contrary to the current misprint plan

brisk juniper
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that's the point of this thread, do we really want to have that many illuvitars in the misprint auction??

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I feel like the misprint auction should be for some really unlucky wave instead of having these many misprints per wave like it was with wave 2

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for example the Holo Omnipotent Ophisto

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I don't think it's a good idea to apply the misprints to alphas with the current sale structure

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wave 3 will come out before OB so it will mean it will basically be the same ppl that participated in wave 2

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so it's safe to assume we'll probably end up with the same number of misprints in alphas if not more

fleet anvil
brisk juniper
fleet anvil
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One flaw with missed print auctions is that you could spend a lot of money on a 1 of 1, only for another to be pulled out of a disk at some point.
Are they truly missed whilst there are still disks available to be opened.

brisk juniper
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that's the only one for the unlimited

brisk juniper
fleet anvil
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With guaranteed pulls it will have to be determined beforehand how rare each illuvitar would be, for the entire set.
If we base it on wave 1 for example, I presume they would only allow 1 blazing holo Rhamphyre, but then would the holo Goofy be a 1 of 1 or would here be 2, etc etc.
All has to be decided in mind of how many unlimited variants would likely be pulled to preserve the rarity of alphas.
Needs a lot of careful consideration.

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The fact that there are odds for rare pulls in standard disks too makes the task much more fun 😅
It could be a tall order to expect this to be implemented before OB, as much as I would like it and that's presuming it actually gets the green light.

brisk juniper
brisk juniper
fleet anvil
brisk juniper
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some1 might get lucky and actually pull a T5S3 holo rare expression and in that case there would be 2, the guaranteed plus the one that was randomly pulled

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my idea is to think like traditional card games and not leave it all to randomness

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and yes it might happen that there are 2 alpha pulls and then only 1 extended version

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but the odds for that would be really low, when comparing the d1sk numbers

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the idea here is to ensure that there is at least 1 alpha version

fleet anvil
brisk juniper
fleet anvil
# brisk juniper yes give it some thought

I've thought about it and I prefer it the way you outlined and I agree, it would be much simpler that way.

Hopefully we will see more feedback from other members in the coming week/s to help expose any potential negative effects of implemeting such a feature.

fleet anvil
# tidal tiger yes, i like that idea but its contrary to the current misprint plan

I do think that this is a valid concern.
Having a lot of missed prints for auction will be good for the treasury as it will drive a lot of revenue when the time eventualy arrives to aution them off.
Will implementing this feature drive enough demand and produce enough revenue to justify removing that potential revenue source in the future.
Between that and finding a good balance between Alpha/Unlimited holo's. It's a balancing act that does come with some risk.
Is it worth that risk, i'm still undecided.

brisk juniper
# fleet anvil I do think that this is a valid concern. Having a lot of missed prints for aucti...

regarding the revenue from the misprint auction that might be the case and the DAO might may not make as much money but that is not certain either.
I think we have more to gain long term by implementing this and attracting 1st edition collectors than trying to bank on the misprint auction.
Also, if we don't limit the number of Alpha d1sks we have no control to balance between Alpha/Unlimited.
Keep in mind that future waves/sets will have more ppl participating and the likelihood of misprints will keep decreasing.

muted hazel
# brisk juniper In light of the following proposal discussions I want to hear the community feed...

I can share my experience with Pokemon and how important it was to there trading card game with implementing a 1st edition limited set which drove up the collectibility and value of the cards because they were so limited and rare.There is no collectibility if something can be purchased an unlimited amount of times (at least not as much) .For example a base set charizard psa 10 sells for $8,000USD a 1st edition charizard base set sells for $180,000 USD.The base set non 1st edition printed way more so it was easier to get vise versa with the 1st edition charizard very limited print which made this card a gem in the collectors eyes.Now we are coming to a new world and online gaming and I really think we can drive the collectibility aspect up with the illuvitars as long as we make the alpha set a limited supply so people cant buy thousands of them, it would ruin the collectibility aspect no matter the price.

fleet anvil
# brisk juniper regarding the revenue from the misprint auction that might be the case and the D...

I think we have more to gain long term by implementing this and attracting 1st edition collectors than trying to bank on the misprint auction.

One could argue that the misprint auction may be a stronger vehicle to achieve this.
If the auction is timed well, along with strong marketing, some of these rare Alphas could fetch very large sums of money, which will drive huge awareness and demand for them into the future.

In saying this though, I do really like the idea, it's just that there are benefits to both and that being the case, is the argument/data for this proposal compelling enough to undergo all of these changes.
I'm not sure just yet, so i'm staying on the fence for now until I see more feedback.

heavy abyss