#Create higher individual stretch goals rewards

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quiet cipher
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TLDR - Create individual stretch goals rewards for 5 000 points and 10 000 instead of stopping at 1000 like it was with wave 2.

There was only one player in the top 100 that bought more than 5000 d1sks on one single account during wave 2.
Everyone else spread their buys through different wallets to capitalize on the individual stretch goals.

I think we should create more rewards past the 1000 points, even more with the following idea

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where Mega D1sks will give 5x more points than Standard D1sks this time around.

This thread is also a way for the community to share any ideas they would like the best rewards to be.

I'll share @storm karma idea to kick-start things.

5 000 - Unique holo illuvitar
10 000 - Holo ranger skin

Let's make Illuvium Beyond Great Again!

magic grove
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Don't ranger skins come from ILZ?

waxen aurora
magic grove
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magic grove
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Blueprints don't have much purpose anymore if they require playing the game and all that effort to find, effort and expense to gather all the materials, and cost to craft the skins if you actually get the much better skins from Beyond.

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Blueprints are supposed to be a core game mechanic, which should not be undermined. Regardless of previous waves, someone needs to put their foot down on this.

waxen aurora
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Maybe 3-6 months into open Beta will open some eyes.

white tangle
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If there is no reason to not have all the stretch goals to be recurring after 1000, then it should be.
It would remove the necessity for multiple accounts.

quiet cipher
# magic grove I don't support that.

@magic grove blueprints are different than skins are they not? Blueprints are recipes to craft skins.

And are you really that bothered by a skin that someone only gets if they buy 2000 mega d1sks?

white tangle
quiet cipher
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yes but the thumbs down is on this idea not on skins for completing collections

magic grove
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white tangle
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magic grove
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And so easy to make a separation, why not do it? It's never too late.

white tangle
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magic grove
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And personal attacks just don't make sense here

quiet cipher
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myself included

waxen aurora
# magic grove Yes, I own land but don't plan to focus on blueprints

Good, you shouldn't.
With cosmetics it's always the Same, the rare ones are gona be desired, and since you can produce limitless skins with bp's but just get a single skin with stretchgoals or collections, most likely those going to be the rare/desired/expensive ones.
You also avoid the Risk of not getting a Profit AT all, or worst case lose money because noone buys the skin you produced

quiet cipher
magic grove
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In a way I am, but I think that was misjudged by the team

waxen aurora
quiet cipher
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I still think land owners will profit A LOT from fuel.

quiet cipher
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if land pays for itself in 1-2 years and then it's all profit I find that a good invest

waxen aurora
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Lets See, some people already try to Cut it to revenue just from overworld

quiet cipher
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plus the future option to lend it or have scholarships playing it

waxen aurora
quiet cipher
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yeah thanks @waxen aurora let's try and stick to the idea post here

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I know you guys are not much into beyond but if you could I would appreciate it if you could take a look at my ideas, still missing a couple thumbs up to make them proposals

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again @magic grove just want to reiterate that what I said be4 was not at all a personal attack, hope you didn't get the wrong idea

waxen aurora
quiet cipher
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I'll pm you to not drag it down in here

magic grove
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waxen aurora
# quiet cipher ah thanks for clarifying that m8, I actually thought it was a pre-requesite. I'm...

Yea, got changed Long time ago.
Ideal is

  • to gather sentiment/changes/other inputs first in #1020759212172775464
  • if you get a good amount of upvotes (community back up) you can write a proposal ideally with a icc member and a pro in the subject the proposal is about, so you create a good one.
  • Post it in #1126838877429182506 to get the required upvotes to bring the proposal to a voting/rewriting onncouncil Stage.
astral reef
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I agree with stretch targets provided the rewards are always a mix of financial, cosmetic, and collectable but not powerful. IE: It should not be rewarded with an uber powerful illuvitar.

quiet cipher
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Regarding the not powerful illuvitar, being unique doesn't necessarily mean it is powerful. It could appeal more to the collectors then the leaderboard push narrative.

This proposal will probably be for the team to decide what they think it's best to reward and just make them add the 5k and 10k milestone for wave 3.
But we can make some suggestions nonetheless.

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@lean magnet you have any suggestion you would like to share for these?

lean magnet
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10k is a lot of disks however

quiet cipher
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still a lot 🤣

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the proposal I'm planning on doing for the goals rewards will probably incorporate this current idea and this one
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upbeat kelp
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waxen aurora
quiet cipher
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The rewards will be up to the team to decide what they think it's the best thing to implement.

quiet cipher
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we're just throwing ideas here. And evaluating the sentiment on these.

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skins are a very sensitive topic cause we don't want to mess with land owners

upbeat kelp
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I've withdrawn my 'against' vote cuz it wouldn't matter as long as i would be behind this if there are no skins involved in the rewards

upbeat kelp
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upbeat kelp
# quiet cipher but would it be that big of a deal if there were skins? There'll prolly only be ...

Imo yes because those would be the most rare maybe 'special edition' and would become very sought after. And it's been said before BPs is a core mechanic in IL Zero, has been confirmed that every attempt at researching a blueprint WILL cost fuel so who knows how expensive it'll be to get a top tier one? And getting high tier/very rare one as a rewards from another game doesn't feel right to me.
Is as if for example i get the top fuel farmer in IL Zero for a month/quarter and as a reward i get a Holo Rhamphyre - wouldn't seem fair for Beyond players

quiet cipher
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isn't beyond a game that inter-connects all games?
I get your point but still to get one of these you would have to spend over 70-80k, estimating roughly

waxen aurora
quiet cipher
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don't we think we should reward something nice to some1 that spends that amount of money ?

upbeat kelp
# quiet cipher isn't beyond a game that inter-connects all games? I get your point but still t...

I think this statement fits more into IL Zero rather than Beyond - i don't see how a collection game which gives you PFPs inter-connets all games. Illuvitars can only be seen as a PFP in Arena(and the website) and that is it. While IL Zero provides the means for players to travel in the OW so that people catch Illuvials to compose teams which then battle in the Arena (where finally an illuvitar PFP can be seen)

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And idk why does it have to be skins and not something related to Illuvitars?

quiet cipher
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I see it as the beyond version of all games

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and hopefully there will be some connection to IZ in the future as well

upbeat kelp
quiet cipher
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for me personally I would like to see more things intertwined between the games

quiet cipher
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you said this "i don't see how a collection game which gives you PFPs inter-connets all games" and to me this is very lackluster to what beyond is, that's all

upbeat kelp
quiet cipher
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I created this thread to gather ideas for rewards, and you all jumped on it because there's a skin in it

upbeat kelp
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I also gave the thumbs down earlier because of that.
Change it from a skin to a Holo/Unique Illuvitar and you have my thumbs up

quiet cipher
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The point of the skin was just a suggestion @storm karma gave to kickstart the conversation. As I already said the proposal will be for the team to decide on what they think the best suitable reward should be.

quiet cipher
waxen aurora
upbeat kelp
quiet cipher
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What do you guys think on skins for IZ buildings?

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Good? Bad? I would like to see more things between the games connected

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cause right now beyond is connected to arena and overworld but not IZ

waxen aurora
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quiet cipher
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Yeah I agree, if you put both thumbs up and down it's fine. But agreeing 90% with the idea and only putting a thumbs down gives the wrong impression.