#Community Feedback - Season Pass

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frigid hornet
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Let's discuss here all the details about a potential Season Pass.
Everytime we'll find a consensus with the people involved in this discussion about one point or another i will update the Original post to reflect what was already decided.

I will just start with a few basic questions i feel like should be answered in this discussion.

  • How long should a Season be?
  • What happens to Leaderboard between each Season?
  • What should or should not be included in the Season Pass?
  • What modes/games should be affected by the Season Pass?
  • What is a good price range for the Season Pass?
  • Do we want different Season Pass options (Bronze, Silver, Gold for example)
  • What about free 2 play season pass?
marble terrace
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im all in

frigid hornet
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Ok i'll start with 1st question, how long should a season be?
I feel like in a lot of games i plaied a Season is between 1 to 3 months, i'd personnally like a monthly thing, this way people pay a subscription every month, and remain more engaged in the game than with a longer model.

The possible Con i anticipate here is how able would the team be to pump new emotes, battleboards, skins etc (like all the usual stuff we usually implement in a Season Pass) every month, maybe they need a longer time between Seasons to produce all the content.

We would probably need some insight from @floral spruce here.

willow coyote
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I'm no battlepass expert at all and never purchase them in games that have them (usually dont play games that have them anyways)

Season Length: Lets say new illuvials are scheduled to be released every 6 months. Either have each "Set" be a season so 6 months. Or have 2 so every 3 months.
Leaderboard resets
Maybe 3 options: Free - Cheap - Not Cheap

I'll let others bring up some opinions on other topics and comment later

vapid fern
willow coyote
marble terrace
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i dont think the team is capable of releasing new illuvials every 3-6 months

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even if they do its prob just a few illuvials, not entirely new set

frigid hornet
# willow coyote Yup but im not sure if that's how fast the team wants to release new Illuvials.

or how fast they can as well. We've seen that each illuvial line takes a lot of time and effort to get the eyeballs right etc. but also in the new mechanics they might bring. worth reminding there are still like 8 or 9 lines that we know but still not in the game 1.5 years after Survival mode release.

Edit to answer @marble terrace idk where i heard it but apparently the team is considering releasing less illuvials but more often and release them by small batches indeed rather than wait 1-2 years for an entire 100+ new set.

I also think it's better.

vapid fern
marble terrace
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battle pass generally last for 10-12 weeks. so 3 months

marble terrace
signal tiger
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Does this give access to all illuvials for arena mode?

marble terrace
signal tiger
marble terrace
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this is pre season pass

frigid hornet
# marble terrace so far, access to leaderboard incentive web2 games usually give cosmetics. maybe...

disagree with this point though. i don't think people should pay to earn. that's a dissonance to me. But implementing a Season Pass to earn stuff you can sell or use in the arena would fund the Leaderboard rewards which would keep the DAU high, and maximize the chances of new people buying the Season Pass.

I repeat: I will fight with all my soul any proposal trying to put leaderboard rewards behind a paywall other than the already existing price to entry with the Illuvials to buy.

willow coyote
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Yup the paywall for rewards is paying to build your deck. The seasonal pass should come with other features and/or have a separate "pass pool" for rewards that takes a percentage of the money used to purchase to pay out only pass holders.

frigid hornet
marble terrace
frigid hornet
main flower
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I like the idea of a battle pass. I think having a set and forget way of paying for travel is great.
How would other in game functions work though? Costs for curing shards and crafting ect?

floral spruce
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Good morning,

Personal thoughts on this proposal as follows:

  • I don't believe Ranked Ladder Rewards should be gated behind a Season Pass. Defeats the purpose of the Ladder Rewards i.e. increase to DAUs.
  • I love the potential of a Season Pass eventually, however not something we could begin work on for several months at best. (at minimum we need Account System v2 and the Passport Integration deployed in Prod).
  • There are plans for User Profile XP and similar Account related expansion ideas.. so with this in-mind it's a fine time to start discussing what this could look like.
vapid fern
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I wonder if we could incorporate Zero. Say they have a pre-season where the winners get a small percentage of the season pass. Zero peeps would be trying to get as many of the skins for the OW or Arena season pass as possible? Just an idea to keep zero tight with skins