Proposal to remove bonded accessories and replace with new ones

[harsh fable]

This proposal allows users to change the accessories they have bonded to an illuvitar. They can burn their old accessories and replace them with new ones, giving them the freedom to choose their favorite accessories.

Details:

This proposal allows users to replace unwanted accessories on their Illuvitars, which could increase demand for accessories and bonded Illuvitars.

Here are some of the key points of the proposal :

• Users can replace unwanted accessories with new ones.

• This could slightly increase demand for accessories.

• It could also increase demand for bonded Illuvitars.

• The proposal could be relatively simple to implement. The team already has an option to apply accessories to illuvitars, so they would only need to add an extra option to replace the existing bonded accessories.

I believe this idea was mentioned in one of our channels before, but it was never formally discussed. I would love to get community feedback on it now.

[harsh fable]

Proposal to remove bonded accessories and replace with new ones

[shell latch]

I believe it was already discussed by Aaron or somebody from the team that this might be an option in the future. But I can’t remember what exactly was said, but something like this was talked about and it was said that they are thinking about something like this. (as per my memory)

[late stump]

This would encourage the use of accessories in general. Currently I couldn’t even imagine bonding items to my axon. If I could take them off by burning them I would definitely slap some stuff on their. Not sure how this effects the markets though so I’m probably not the best person to share my opinion on this specific topic 😅

[lofty parcel]

Im not a big fan of using accessories because I find in most cases it takes away from the original image. Due to this reason i dont really play the collection album. If I knew I could take the accessories off I would definitely play. I think a fee per accesory to remove would be appropriate. Something like $.50

[shell latch]

why would there be a fee when you’re just burning something? it’s not yours anymore. i don’t know, charging to remove accessories seems to much cash graby to me

[lofty parcel]

I think it puts a lot more thought into it. Just think there should be some sort of penalty. If you want to put clown noses on everything go for it. But its going to cost a little lit but of money to change it.

Also would need to have more info on 'substance' to make a more informed decision.

[bold glen]

On a personal note I like how the system is set up, in many cases the 'mistakes' are their own kind of beauty. I feel if we allow this than soon over time all of the Illuvitars will look mostly the same as people overwrite the original accessories for those with the higher power rating.

That being said I wouldn't be totally opposed if this was ever implemented, though I am more in favor of the overwrite than the outright removal.

[obtuse hearth]

While this gives more flexibility to all Illuvitar holders (a change that I should welcome in theory), I am on the fence. It removes some of the strategic decision making associated with the fact that bonding is currently permanent and I suspect it will give even more leaderboard advantage to ppl with budget (e.g. buy and upgrade accessories) over strategy/risk of bonding.

[shell latch]

But this way too many people are not bonding anything. Even if you like something, what if in Set 2 you get something better? Or Set 2 accessories are not for Set 1 Illuvitars?

Like I said before, if you aren’t fighting for leaderboards there is little to none initiative for bonding something. Only reason you would bond something is if you like it very very much.

If you think about it. If we would offer cheaper D1SKs without accessories, how many people would be buying that?

[thick forge]

Two points to comment:

• there are less accessories than illuvitars, this could reduce thet even further (burning over accessories)

• would there be a "blank accessory" that could be purchasable from the DAO? Essentially this would "remove" the accessory

[shell latch]

There isn’t less accessories than Illuvitars. But I guess your point was that there isn’t 5x accessories per Illuvitar or there is less accessories per spot than Illuvitars.

But, how many accessories there are, and how many were bonded? And what percentage is that?

Are we really scared that there won’t be enough accessories?

[thick forge]

All very good questions - would need to get those answers to know for sure

Ya that's what i meant, if all illuvitars were max bonded with accessories, there would not be enough of them - especially when/if the burning mechanic that has been rumored/speculated on gets developed.

I am not personally scared of them running out... since most people want pure (unbonded) illuvitars

[harsh fable]

Yes. I also remember that being discussed in the past but not highlighted specifically and i thought it is good option to have it so posted as feedback idea here and see what community thinks about it.

[harsh fable]

This is good point as well.

[harsh fable]

The proposal to allow players to remove accessories from Illuvitars is a good one, but it is important to consider the game's main goal of encouraging players to bond their Illuvitars. Once bonded, Illuvitars are permanent, which is designed to make players feel more attached to their creatures. The proposal does not affect this goal, as players would still need to bond their Illuvitars in order to remove accessories. However, it does provide players with an additional option if they are not happy with the accessories they have chosen. Ultimately, the decision of whether or not to allow players to remove accessories is a delicate one, and it is important to weigh the pros and cons carefully.

[harsh fable]

Good points to consider

[wintry pasture]

I think this is an interesting idea and worth exploring more for future iterations. I like some of the accessories yet don't really have an interest in the leaderboard. I'm waiting for different ones that I like and go with the images I'm fond of. It would be cool to be able to switch accessories rather than buy more illuvitars of the same kind to bond or keep clean.
I also see keeping them clean allows for secondary sales to people who want clean ones to be able to bond.

[harsh fable]

💯

[fathom owl]

No, reversing bonding will break the game

permanent bonding will increase demand for non clown nose illuvitar

[unborn jolt]

I wouldn't introduced a blank accessory. Basically once it's bondend, it's bonded. So the unbonded illuvitars can increase their value vs the bonded ones. So you still have the "Adrenalin push" when you Start bonding a clean illuvitar.

[wintry pasture]

Fair point.

[wintry pasture]

This makes sense.

[lofty parcel]

For me you have to ask why are people not bonding their accessories? For me and a lot of other people. They believe the accessories take away from the original photo. So for that reason I wont bond or partake in that part of the game. If I knew I could strip the accessories off at any point than I would participate and try to climb the leaderboard. The more people that participate in the game the more competetive the leaderboard gets. The more competitive the leaderboard gets the more money people will spend upgrading their album. Thats my take anyways.

[serene thorn]

Simple solve is that you have a accessory that is a accessory remover and is tradable and sellable and is rareish it had two benefits it burns the old accessory and then burns itself . It also then. Allows for the use of a new accessory. You could also lock it so that a new accessory has to be used this makes it so you cannot go back to a clean skin but you can change or upgrade and the economy benefits from people buying and trading in more accessories

@hybrid mason lol what you think 🧐

Cannot be used on Alpha

[hybrid mason]

I know Aaron has spoken internally and probably even publicly about the idea of an “Empty” accessory to remove an accessory. There are lots of idea we have have internally that are on a future ideas page, as the focus is obviously open beta.

All that being said, in short I do support possibly the removal of accessories through this route somewhat, but do recognize the other points made here. As it is a hard commitment for me to actually bond something, so I think a penalty for removing whether that’s a small cost or burning of something I think is fair personally

[harsh fable]

I also agree that providing option to remove bonded accessories at some penalty is ok. On top of it, they are already loosing the bonded accessories anyway...

[glossy sparrow]

Voting 👍 due to the wave 2 price changes and the impact this has had on Accessories. I think it makes perfect sense to introduce a burning mechanism as well as allow players to upgrade an Illuvitars existing Accessories, allowing further options for the player to optimize their sleeved Collection.

Caveat: This should be scheduled post Open Beta or at the very least in such a way that it reduces impact to core deliveries.

[harsh fable]

Thanks for considering this

[lucid bloom]

I do not like the idea of burning the accessories as it removes the only strategic element of us making long term choices with lasting consequences. The current "game" mechanic is very basic with the sole rewarded goal of gaining points to compete on a leaderboard with weekly ILV rewards for the top 100. At the conclusion of Wave 6 competitors must live with their short term choices. The game forces us to decide when and what Illuvials to alter and at what cost of accessory we are willing to expend in order to maximise power per available slot. Some may choose to sacrifice points for personal preference / art sake - it is your choice. A better option for those with seemingly unsightly graffiti is to enable a feature that makes accessories invisible so that you can display it in native form but retain the accessory points. It is a competition after all - You make your move, fill the available slot and no going backsies...