#Add Alpha Stamp on Illuvitar Image - Draft IIP

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ashen grove
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Simple Summary
Many members of the community have expressed a desire for Alpha Illuvitars to include a visual indication of the Illuvitar's Alpha status within the Illuvitar artwork. This proposal would direct the Illuvium team to update the artwork of alpha Illuvitars to include an alpha stamp.

Overview
Alpha Illuvitars are meant to be the most exclusive Illuvitars due to their limited nature but they are visually indistinguishable from the non-alpha Illuvitars. Adding the stamp to the Illuvitar image adds value for those who are looking for exclusive collectibles in the Illuvium Universe.

Benefits
-Makes alphas unique when purchasing Illuvitar prints.
-Allows people to flex the alpha status of their Illuvitar when using it as a PFP.
-Further differentiates Alpha Illuvitars from non-alphas to solidify exclusivity of alphas

In summary, adding an alpha stamp onto the Illuvitar images is a value add for those who have purchased Alpha Disks and increases the overall collectability of Illuvitars.

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trail flame
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Appreciate your post but I disagree:

  • True collectors know if a card is Alpha or not.
  • Further distinctions can be added when the game is out:
    ** Example: a border of another color than non-alphas

So I think now is a good time to let the assets as they are. I would consider that idea when more utility is out.

But anyhow – I wouldn't be mad or feel scammed if we got a stamp.

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ashen grove
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EXAMPLE OF POTENTIAL STAMP/PLACEMENT.

Actual artwork will be at the discretion of the Illuvium art team.

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pale burrow
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Or above the whole picture with 10% visibility

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Would send a pic for example but not on pc atm

ashen grove
# trail flame Appreciate your post but I disagree: * True collectors know if a card is Alpha ...

Ive heard people mention the border thing a few times and im not against that at all, except for the fact that there are already other plans to have frames around Illuvitars that might confict with the implementation of an alpha border.

Im open to whatever the best implementation is, I just really think its important to have a visual distinction of alpha vs non-alpha outside of the Illuvidex.

pale burrow
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Or a extra border like this

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This is what i mean like the alpha logo but above the whole picture

brave kiln
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vfx and a downloadable gif would work for me but I love gifs 🙂

potent badge
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A subtle border would be cool

honest knoll
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This was my first thought when i minted my first d1sk, as long as it doesnt take crazy dev time im all for it

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brave kiln
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another idea add alpha to the border. if you don't have a border then it could be the A with a very simple border.

potent badge
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Adding the a is overkill imo. But would be upset about it. Think a subtle thing gif or otherwise would be tight

limpid marsh
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Border or some kind of vfx might be doable, but there's such limited space to place all the accessories on some of the portraits we can't have a stamp covering corners of the image (or any part really).
Also the stamp may be barely visible against some of the lighter backgrounds.
We considered this before and decided against it

peak shore
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I'm in favor of VFX/animated gifs.

ashen grove
# limpid marsh Border or some kind of vfx might be doable, but there's such limited space to pl...

I was able to whip this up pretty quickly thats easily visible on both light and dark backgrounds.

As far as overlapping accessories, when the stamp is made translucent the visual interference is fairly minimal and to me personally, I think the addition of the stamp is still an overall benefit to the image even though it overlaps an accessory.
I also notice that the vast majority of Illuvitars have either the right or left bottom corner totally empty so maybe it could vary in location to fit the particular portrait its on?
Im sure you guys could come up with something much better than what im doing here...

marble pecan
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Thanks for writing this. I made a similar suggestion before but preferred a signature series like Artigraphs in ParallelTCG (screenshot included). But I don't care too much what it looks like exactly as long as there's something cool embedded on the cart itself.

I'll make the same argument as before – In Pokemon it's okay to have the "First Edition" icon on the card because we always see those things as whole cards. But with Illuvitars, people don't screenshot the web UI including the power level and Alpha icon when using these as their avatars.. Alphas will quickly lose their distinction and so many people won't even know they exist without the proposed change.

brave kiln
marble pecan
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To further illustrate the point, IMX and TokenTrove do not display the Alpha stamp at all. This means you have to go to the particular NFT's details, check the properties and see if Alpha is "Yes".

It can be argued that it's the third party's responsibility to implement the visuals for the Alpha stamp, but is that really how we want this to go? Power level is not a problem because that's reflected already by what's on the art. You won't see the actual number but you at least you can infer that so and so background is some tier X and these combination of accessories will multiply the base value by some value Y. For Alpha there's literally nothing.

"Where's Alpha"?

tender karma
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I am definitely in favour of something that distinguishes them as alpha when set as a PFP, stamp and/or glowing vfx - here is an example of some that are used in the marketing trailers and bonding that could be great. They don't interrupt the artwork but instead make it "pop" and visibly an Alpha. The vfx can even lay overtop/combine with the achievement borders. (Squizz on bottom right would be a non alpha for comparison). @limpid marsh @ashen grove

marble pecan
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Besides I don't think it's scope creeping from the initial definition of Alpha. A stamp is something you... stamp, or imprint on something. It has to be visible on the thing. It would be unfair to say the stamp is the "alpha" property on the NFT.

Alphas are supposed to represent first edition, which roughly means the first group of mints, before any major changes are made. Typically there is a substantial amount of time between the first edition run and the rest of it (no first edition without a second edition, right?). See what first editions of books for example on Google look like and it makes sense.

Since we're not setting a significant time period between the Alpha and non-Alpha runs, and since the art won't ever get changed, the only thing left is to make them obviously different visually.

Notice that on the website it even says accessories will be stamped, but I digress...

worldly dagger
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Agreed

limpid scarab
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This is the only reason why I haven't bought alphas. Rarity is defined by visibility. There is no difference in the profil picture between alpha and non alpha. So I agree

peak shore
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Yeah, I don't feel that enthusiastic about Alphas too because of a lack of distinction visually in the picture itself.

brave kiln
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ashen grove
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Well seeing as we've hit the required 20 👍 I'd like to get this moved over the the IIP forum.

@surreal trail can we get a thread going for this?

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marble pecan
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I'd love to chime in sometimes there but got no permission to post

pale burrow
teal edge
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stamp or border/frame
id prefer a border cos stamp might get in the way of the illuvitar's look

marble pecan
thick valve
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🙂

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I was originally thinking like @trail flame where it is very subtle, maybe with some UI elements in the Illuvidex to better address searching and bonding, but I like the idea of a subtle gif animation of a flashing (A) on the Alpha's or something to that effect

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for static images you could choose to use or not include the (A)

pine tulip
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IMO the alphas should have a small logo of Kieran Warwick's face at the bottom corner of the illuvitar.