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#getting out of bounds error when generating bed mesh
gloomy frost
my config is likely wrong
i need help setting it up
#====================================================================
BED MESH PARAMETERS
#====================================================================
[bed_mesh]
speed: 200
horizontal_move_z: 5
mesh_min: 20,20
mesh_max: 190,190
probe_count: 9
#mesh_min: 50,50
#mesh_max: 180,180
#probe_count: 3
mesh_pps: 2
algorithm: bicubic
#fade_start: 1
#fade_end: 10
#fade_target: 0
what i have rn
i run a ender 3 original
with a bq probe and a bigtree tech skr mini e3 v3
ive alredy got all my offsets proper
uneven token
bounds error in what axis?
gloomy frost
uhh good question it dident really say
what log is that in?
just read the error popup
uneven token
for me it says it in the console
gloomy frost
5:13 PM
Move out of range: -23.000 14.000 5.000 [0.000]
my home is in the center of the bed fyi
uneven token
honestly i dont know sorry
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gloomy frost
wait for some reason it dident save my z offset
lemme try now
still broke'
Move out of range: -23.000 14.000 5.000 [0.000]
silver raft
Why downvoting the logs? We don't know the offset or maximum and minimum of the axis. So impossible to help, besides saying, that the maximum and minimum of the mesh is wrong
So give us the log, if you really want help
If you read the message you will btw see what value is out of range.
-23.000 14.000 5.000
The -23 is most likely not in range, but that's just speculation
gloomy frost
wasent me to do that, also what log you looking for?
Move out of range: -23.000 14.000 5.000 [0.000]
mesh_min: 87, 22 #!!min and max co-ords are based on the probes location not the nozzle!!
mesh_max: 278, 237 #needs to be calibrated for your individual printer
changed my min and max properly and got same error
silver raft
wasent me to do that, also what log you looking for?
Klipper log, just like yesterday
silver raft
Move out of range: -23.000 14.000 5.000 [0.000]
mesh_min: 87, 22 #!!min an...
Because the max is way too high
How should the printer get there
Like the comments say, the min and max are based on the probe location. But your nozzle also has to stay in bounds
silver raft
wasent me to do that, also what log you looking for?
I also saw that you were not the person down voting. I just forgot the ping
gloomy frost
I also saw that you were not the person down voting. I just forgot the ping
ah i see
i added the probe for the max should i subtract instead?
silver raft
No, you should use the max possible coords
At least if the offset of the probe is negative
gloomy frost
mine is positive
silver raft
I will look at it in a few minutes
gloomy frost
i run probe_calibrate and it shows it in the middle so i know my offsets are fine
silver raft
That's not the problem
gloomy frost
the probe in middle
silver raft
It's trying to move the toolhead out of the boundaries to reach the mesh points you defined
gloomy frost
yeah wich is why im thinking for the max i need to subtract the offset instead of add like i did for the min
the vid i was going off timestamped
silver raft
I think I'm confused right now too. I will get you the values in a few seconds
silver raft
These are the highest possible values:
mesh_min: 43, 6
mesh_max: 235, 235
The mesh_min has to go higher and the mesh_max lower
gloomy frost
ill plug those in and see how it runs
silver raft
Go like -/+ 5 on all values
Just to not be on the outest possible edge
You can think about it like that. To mesh the position 43, 6 your probe has to go there, but your nozzle has to stay in bounds. From 43, 6 you have to subtract the offset, to get the nozzle coords. So your nozzle would be at 0, 0
For 235, 235 your nozzle would be at 192, 229
gloomy frost
my touch is on the left of my nozzle btw
silver raft
If you now go higher that 235, 235 your probe wouldn't be on the plate anymore
silver raft
my touch is on the left of my nozzle btw
I don't care, I just use the coords of the log
gloomy frost
alr
silver raft
I don't even know where the 0, 0 is located, so that information is useless xD
gloomy frost
front left of bed
silver raft
Now a funny thing. My nozzle is on the right, but 0,0 is on the back right. So the offsets should be the same
gloomy frost
ran with this still out of bounds
silver raft
What is the out of bounds message?
gloomy frost
6:28 PM
Move out of range: -23.000 14.000 5.000 [0.000]
silver raft
And again. I'm asking for a log
gloomy frost
silver raft
I bet you just didn't hit save & restart
gloomy frost
im pretty sure i did
gloomy frost
wait really?
silver raft
[bed_mesh]
speed = 200
horizontal_move_z = 5
mesh_min = 20,20
mesh_max = 190,190
probe_count = 9
mesh_pps = 2
algorithm = bicubic```Those are different than your screenshot
gloomy frost
[bed_mesh]
speed: 80
horizontal_move_z: 5
mesh_min: 48, 12 #!!min and max co-ords are based on the probes location not the nozzle!!
mesh_max: 230, 230 #needs to be calibrated for your individual printer
probe_count: 5,5 #this is the number of probing points on X then Y axis
mesh_pps: 2,2
fade_start: 1
fade_end: 10
fade_target: 0
thats mine
huh
i had a hunch this may be happening
silver raft
So you messed up some includes maybe
gloomy frost
im gonna search for another bed mesh
[include mainsail.cfg]
[include moonraker_obico_macros.cfg]
only includes in my main printer.cfg
silver raft
Then send your printer.cfg and the included files
Also, why exactly did you wrote "main" printer.cfg?
silver raft
You sent one with a timestamp
printer-20240813_221143.cfg
Send the one without a timestamp
gloomy frost
wait mine changed to that after running SAVE_CONFIG
silver raft
Also always but includes at the top, that they won't override something from your config
silver raft
wait mine changed to that after running SAVE_CONFIG
It's the old one
silver raft
It's just a backup
gloomy frost
well ive been editing the old one so imma fix it and change to the new
silver raft
On the cog wheel top right of the files box on the machine page, you can hide backup files
gloomy frost
alr, but the backup one is the real one in this case but ill change that for later
silver raft
No, the backup one is not the real one
silver raft
It's the one, that got the old values from before save_config
So no matter what you edited, you edited a backup
You did wrong, not the software 😜
gloomy frost
not claiming that just saying deleting the backup would set me back my changes rather then renaming it
anyways test time
bad noise
silver raft
my changes rather then renaming it
And if you rename it, it will set back the things, the software changed before...
gloomy frost
oh no i moved the z offset over to the "new" old one awell, i was confused b4 because when i ran the commad i dident see it in printer-20240813_221143.cfg so i entered it manualy
ive been making all edits to printer-20240813_221143.cfg
like a dumbass
silver raft
After save_config the offset value got moved down into a comment block
You should have just copied over the bed mesh section....
gloomy frost
here i can do that now i have the other one still
silver raft
And just to be sure. This time use the config just named printer.cfg
Als have a look at the bottom of the config. All values that are commented out there, shouldn't appear uncommented at the top
gloomy frost
your looking at the config your telling me to use tho
this is the one that had the number name
silver raft
Use the bed_mesh section from the second picture
So copy the second bed_mesh section into the config of the first picture
gloomy frost
should i change it here at all?
the z offset
i mean'
ok we chilling now
well maybe that doesent look great
silver raft
Send your log again
silver raft
Maybe because it is the same.....Why uncommenting the top one? There is no reason to do that
Especially if you set it at the same value
gloomy frost
well i didnt know if the bottom one in save.cfg was wrong also id rather have it there in the top withthe others then hidden away at the bottom
silver raft
These are the current settings:
speed = 80
horizontal_move_z = 5
mesh_min = 87, 22
mesh_max = 278, 231
probe_count = 5,5
mesh_pps = 4,4
fade_start = 1
fade_end = 10
fade_target = 0```yes
silver raft
well i didnt know if the bottom one in save.cfg was wrong also id rather have it...
Then delete the values at the bottom
silver raft
And is 278 even some point on your bed?
Sry, but your values are all over the place right now
gloomy frost
it runs it
when i ran yours the probe was off the bed
should my offset be negative?
silver raft
But according to your config, it's like 40 mm off the bed and you start in the middle of your bed the mesh,
silver raft
should my offset be negative?
Send a picture of your setup with indicator of 0,0
gloomy frost
silver raft
It's at 0,0?
gloomy frost
yes
silver raft
Then it's clearly negative x offset
silver raft
y offset I cannot judge
gloomy frost
y offset I cannot judge
lemme check that with a straight edge or smth
silver raft
If it's off the bed, it's negative and on the bed, it's positive
Just move your nozzle to like x 50 and the nozzle down
silver raft
Then I recommend something like this:
mesh_min: 5, 5
mesh_max: 187, 224```ill try it but if not ill do the math with my nozzle posititions i got
silver raft
The following would be the outest mot possible bounds mesh_min: 0, 0 mesh_max: 192, 229
gloomy frost
yeah i gotta use my math ones cuz that failed to trigger probe
just with real offsets
silver raft
Send your current printer.cfg
Just that I can make sure it's clean before you are messing around with it
gloomy frost
wound up close to your reccomended one
and ill do that but i already made that edit
silver raft
Yeah all fine. Just wante to make sure, that everything is good. It's alright
silver raft
wound up close to your reccomended one
I once wrote a calculator and had it hosted. I really have to host it again. There you can just input the stepper sections and bltouch/probe and you get these values ^^
gloomy frost
so its actualy in bounds now
still a bit fucked up horizontaly but thats likely my bed
should i run a screws ajust?
oh wait cant i run a comand that tells me how much turns i need to make now?
silver raft
should i run a screws ajust?
After everything is set up correct now, you can run ome
gloomy frost
i recall that being a thing
silver raft
oh wait cant i run a comand that tells me how much turns i need to make now?
Yeah, but no idea right now
Search for klipper macros or look at the config reference online
Here it's listed somewhere:
https://www.klipper3d.org/G-Codes.html
gloomy frost
i think its screws tilt calculate
[screws_tilt_adjust]
#screw1:
The (X, Y) coordinate of the first bed leveling screw. This is a
position to command the nozzle to so that the probe is directly
above the bed screw (or as close as possible while still being
above the bed). This is the base screw used in calculations. This
parameter must be provided.
#screw1_name:
An arbitrary name for the given screw. This name is displayed when
the helper script runs. The default is to use a name based upon
the screw XY location.
#screw2:
#screw2_name:
#...
Additional bed leveling screws. At least two screws must be
defined.
#speed: 50
The speed (in mm/s) of non-probing moves during the calibration.
The default is 50.
#horizontal_move_z: 5
The height (in mm) that the head should be commanded to move to
just prior to starting a probe operation. The default is 5.
#screw_thread: CW-M3
The type of screw used for bed leveling, M3, M4, or M5, and the
rotation direction of the knob that is used to level the bed.
Accepted values: CW-M3, CCW-M3, CW-M4, CCW-M4, CW-M5, CCW-M5.
Default value is CW-M3 which most printers use. A clockwise
rotation of the knob decreases the gap between the nozzle and the
bed. Conversely, a counter-clockwise rotation increases the gap.
why so large
good thing i had a seprate bed_screws as when i changed my printer.cfg it wiped the bed_screws
wait that one wasent it it was in my older ender 3 cfg idk why i have a seprate one in there
screw1: 32,36
screw1_name: Front Left
screw2: 32, 206
screw2_name: Back Left
screw3: 202, 206
screw3_name: Back Right
screw4: 202,36
screw4_name: Front Right
silver raft
why so large
Because of formatting. You have a # with a space in front of each big line
gloomy frost
ah
[bed_screws]
screw1: 32,36
screw1_name: Front Left
screw2: 32, 206
screw2_name: Back Left
screw3: 202, 206
screw3_name: Back Right
screw4: 202,36
screw4_name: Front Right
screw_thread: CW-M4
[screws_tilt_adjust]
screw1: 32,36
screw1_name: Front Left
screw2: 32, 206
screw2_name: Back Left
screw3: 202, 206
screw3_name: Back Right
screw4: 202,36
screw4_name: Front Right
speed: 50
horizontal_move_z: 5
screw_thread: CW-M4
well i set these up
silver raft
But it's late again, so I'm gonna go offline
gloomy frost
alr cya man ty for help
silver raft
Offset of 4 seems weird, but no idea 🤷♂️
gloomy frost
oh yeah i need to use the offsets on the tilt ajust
silver raft
So your screws are offset by 4mm?!
If that's really the case, Creality made some weird machine
By offset I mean on the y offset by 4 mm instead of the "same" as the x coords
gloomy frost
I forgot what changes I made to make it proper, I'll post it when I'm home