#Cant see 3d0 nozzle camera image but can see usb board

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main sable
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What would be the most helpful to track issue down? klippy or crosnest log?

sleek ledge
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As it is a camera issue the crowsnest.log

main sable
ivory stream
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The way you set the resolution is wrong.
Instead of 1280*720 1280x720 would be correct,
But your cam only supports 160x120

main sable
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@ivory stream Having the same issue again after a recent Klipper update. I am not sure where you are deriving either the 1280*720 nor the 160x120

ivory stream
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Klipper update cannot break your camera

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Also please don't ping me...

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I am not sure where you are deriving either the 1280*720 nor the 160x120
Answer to both are in your log

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main sable
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my log is from july dude...

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why are you being so mean

ivory stream
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@main sable So about this issue. I got a log from you last time and there I pointed an issue. So I didn't hear back.
But that's something else and needs no discussion.
If you want my help, send a new log

ivory stream
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You asked, where I got those settings from

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I answered that questino

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Or did I misunderstand?

main sable
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"[07/12/23 07:36:39] crowsnest:device: /dev/video0
[07/12/23 07:36:39] crowsnest:resolution: 640x480"

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where are you looking right now

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that is not even my camera bro

ivory stream
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I am not sure where you are deriving either the 1280*720 nor the 160x120
I answered that question

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No idea what you are now talking about

main sable
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nor my lgo

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log

ivory stream
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7/12/23 07:36:53] crowsnest:mode: ustreamer
[07/12/23 07:36:53] crowsnest:
[07/12/23 07:36:53] crowsnest:enable_rtsp: false
[07/12/23 07:36:53] crowsnest:rtsp_port: 8554
[07/12/23 07:36:53] crowsnest:port: 8080
[07/12/23 07:36:53] crowsnest:device: /dev/video0
[07/12/23 07:36:53] crowsnest:resolution: 640x480
[07/12/23 07:36:53] crowsnest:max_fps: 15
[07/12/23 07:36:53] crowsnest: INFO: Detect available Devices
[07/12/23 07:36:53] crowsnest: ERROR: No usable Devices Found. Stopping crowsnest.
[07/12/23 07:36:59] crowsnest: crowsnest - A webcam Service for multiple Cams and Stream Services....

ivory stream
ivory stream
main sable
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not me. this is my only account

ivory stream
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Nvm

main sable
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jesus bro

ivory stream
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ERROR: No usable Devices Found. Stopping crowsnest.
That's the error, no cam detected

main sable
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no shit...

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System load: 31% Up time: 15 min
Memory usage: 29% of 986M IP: 192.168.1.154 192.168.1.4
CPU temp: 51°C Usage of /: 77% of 7.1G

biqu@BTT-CB1:~$ lsusb
Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1d50:606f OpenMoko, Inc. Geschwister Schneider CAN adapter
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1d50:614e OpenMoko, Inc. stm32g0b1xx
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1a40:0101 Terminus Technology Inc. Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
biqu@BTT-CB1:~$ ^C
biqu@BTT-CB1:~$

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I work in EE, i just dont program these SOBs every day like some

ivory stream
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Sry, I'm gonna ignore all your message if you continue like that. You are right now talking nonsense. Just read all the messages from to to bottom and think again. Say what you want, but you sent a log, you asked where I got that from and I sent you a screenshot of your log. You can say what you want, but that's yoru log, if you sent it

main sable
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This time I will write down what fixed it, for future generations of searchers

ivory stream
main sable
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I never sent any logs other than what is above...

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that is not the camera i am even trying to setup

ivory stream
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Can you run dmesg -w, then unplug the cam and replug it and send me the new lines appearing

ivory stream
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But you are right, you never sent a new log, so I can ofc only use old outdated information from over a year ago

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I have no access to your device ofc

main sable
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I dont use discord, like ever, other than for klipper issues, so pardon me if i only put it on here and never sent you something directly. I also had it fixed before you even responded last time

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accidentally unplugged the can device, one minute please

ivory stream
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I think there is some language barrier between us

main sable
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no new lines appear at all

ivory stream
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I never blamed you for not sending a new log. It's just that you wrote some messages that are wrong, at least from my perspective:
You: I didnt feel like you exactly went through my post. I got mine working on my own somehow
Me: Sry, but no idea what you are talking about. I was pointing out a misconfiguration, that 100% lead to an error. After that I never heard back from you 🤷‍♂️
You: NOPE. never in my post are either mentioned

So that you get my side of this. You sent a log a year ago, I pointed out errors, you didn't answer, and then you say, I didn't go through your post (consisting of two messages). I hope you now understand the context of my messages

main sable
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you pointed out errors from a different log that I have zero idea how you got

ivory stream
# main sable no new lines appear at all

dmesg -w is showing you something like that and it didn't exit the command, right?
If so if nothing appears after unplugging and replugging, your device cannot detect the cam at all. Maybe it's broken. Does it still work on Windows?

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ivory stream
ivory stream
main sable
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I was just trying to show you what I can see

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when you click expand thats all the error I was trying to fix

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I do not use discord ever

ivory stream
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Yes, but you never sent that in the first place 🙈

main sable
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that is literally what I see dude stio

ivory stream
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You used it a year ago and then pinged me

main sable
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move on

ivory stream
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*pinged me today

main sable
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we obvsiously were looking at massively different things

ivory stream
main sable
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screenshot of what?

ivory stream
main sable
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camera does not seem to appear on windows at all. probably another dead unit

ivory stream
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If it doesn't appear on Windows nearly 100% dead

main sable
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will not fit on single screenshot

ivory stream
main sable
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so whats the move going forward? somehow another dead unit randomly goes down during another klipper update?

ivory stream
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First of all, Klipper updates won't break anything

main sable
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again somehow

ivory stream
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I think you clicked to update everything?

main sable
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stop trying argue with me dude

ivory stream
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Updating everything is something different from updating klipper

main sable
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fine

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UPDATE EVERYTHING

ivory stream
main sable
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maybe i dont know the context because i dont use these things every day?

ivory stream
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Then it might be possible that something like a driver or similar got updated and your cam might be too old? Or there might be a hw issue

main sable
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the 3do nozzle camera is now considered old?

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sounds like something happened when i clicked update

ivory stream
ivory stream
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I forgot that part

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I have to check something

main sable
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i have gone through basic things like trying other camera types in crowsnest.conf, tried downgrading the resolution and framrates

ivory stream
main sable
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I do not see what you see, for the many times

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I do not see 1280

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*720 anywhere

ivory stream
ivory stream
main sable
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Ill have to rollback logs just to do that. I have not used the printer much since I got it fixed and am pretty bummed this happened again

ivory stream
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Expanding won't show you all

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My question was if you used that cam back then too

main sable
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thats all i know how to do so far on this platform

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same camera hold on

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recent snip

ivory stream
# main sable same camera hold on

What did you change in the past? You said you fixed it on your own, but how?
The log was logging something different /dev/v4l/by-id/usb-SunplusIT_Inc_SPCA2650_PC_Camera_01.00.00-video-index0 -> /dev/video0

main sable
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no idea, or it would be done already

ivory stream
ivory stream
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Ok, still same error. No surprise, but it was worth a shot

main sable
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or its very old and i dont currently want to rollback just to send you this. how about you look at what i just sent

ivory stream
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It's all good

main sable
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its years worth of data sorry

ivory stream
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Again, I was just trying to explain you again something, no malicious intentions....

ivory stream
main sable
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I am using a giant usb extender to get to windows machine. not sure if thats even good anymore

ivory stream
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Can you send a screenshot of the cam PCB?

main sable
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camera is builtin to stealthburner

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i can send exposed pcb but it looks like any online image from kb3d or 3d0 or anyone

ivory stream
ivory stream
main sable
ivory stream
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I just want to see, if you maybe didn't plug in a cable or maybe some small burnn

ivory stream
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Not stock photos

main sable
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i work in electrical engineering repair... not programming. its programming help i need

ivory stream
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Programming says, not detected = cam broke

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That's why I just go through some troubleshooting steps, that you maybe forgot. Even if you are an electrical engineer for 500 years, you could still forget basic steps, like a normal human being

main sable
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I have gone through the basics. nothing has been changed altered etc since pressing UPDATE EVERYTHING

ivory stream
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Like I said, no malicious intention, but not detected overall doesn't even sound like the cam burned down, but like something not plugged in correctly

main sable
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hence my massive confusion both times i have accidentally clicked UPDATE EVERYTHING

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nothing should have changed but idk with these machines sometimes

ivory stream
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alright ill go buy a $30USD cable to try to hook it up to my machine
Again, I don't understand why? What cable do you want to buy? Why do you need a new cable right now?

main sable
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Because my 60Lb desktop will not simply make it from my workstation with 5 monitors to the closet that the machine is enclosed in and only comes with a 3ft usb cable to begin with

ivory stream
ivory stream
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Hard to grasp, but yeah, might not be possible then 🤷‍♂️

main sable
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its mounted inside a machine permantly?

ivory stream
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For me it sounds like an unreasonable hard problem, but you are right, unnecessary discussion

main sable
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inside a closet, which i do not put a desktop in front of

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i am also now disabled since building said machine. and not even capable of lifting it right now, if my monitor cords were long enough to handle it

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maybe 1/5

ivory stream
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I just wanted you to plug in the cam into some kind of other machine. So plugging in a usb device. But I don't know your setup, so it's ofc possible that it's impossible to plug it into your Windows PC directly

main sable
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what kind of other machine can i plug it into?

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i have the printer and my desktop, that I can think of

ivory stream
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Into the desktop, but not through an extension. Maybe I misunderstood something again

main sable
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an extension is the only way that can work, with my setup

ivory stream
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I am using a giant usb extender to get to windows machine. not sure if thats even good anymore
Based on that message of yours, it sounded like you are using an extender to your windows machine

main sable
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even a laptop can not get to it

ivory stream
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Do you have a laptop on hand to plug it in there?

main sable
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but i have none of the proper programs on it as it is a school laptop

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CAN NOT GET TO IT

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I have this permanetly installed, like through toolheads, and wire looms and hardly have a few inches to spare straight to my usb port on my manta m8p

ivory stream
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Sry, but I really think I have a language barrier problem here. I misunderstand half of your messages....

main sable
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even a laptop will not be able to reach it

ivory stream
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Ok, now I think I got it. So you cannot unplug the usb camera?

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*3do camera?

main sable
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i can. the cord is now basically 3 inches long in back

ivory stream
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Ok, now I finally understood 🙈

main sable
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I have it properly installed unlike many who just ziptie it or something

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it runs inside my canbus cable

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if i rip canbus out i cant even boot printer

ivory stream
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Will it be any way possible to unmount the whole cam from the toolhead and printer? If it's bad, you won't need it anyway. If it's software, we will only now after plugging it into another machine

main sable
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it runs inside my canbus cable
if i rip canbus out i cant even boot printer

ivory stream
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Yes, I didn't read your new messages before pressing enter, sry

main sable
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what "OTHER MACHINE" are you thinking I have

ivory stream
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Still your school laptop and windows Desktop PC

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Or maybe it's the same

main sable
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the cable is 3 inches long sir. even if i move PRINTER out of closet, LAPTOP will not reach

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it is custom built to this machine

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PRINTER

ivory stream
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Yes, but you need to get this out, if you want to further troubleshoot

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That's a fact

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It's not detected by the manta. I don't think you somehow destroyed the usb ports of that. But that you would have ofc already tried to test with some other usb device

main sable
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usb extension cord works just fine for power AND data transfer

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i have swapped usb ports to no extent

ivory stream
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You earlier said, you don't know if that even still works

main sable
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I can confirm things as we move alone

ivory stream
main sable
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well within the power of my electrical lab @ home

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what kind of usb device?

ivory stream
ivory stream
main sable
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I just gave you the new information...

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i would not say that if I myself did not have said information

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no usb cameras

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what kind of usb "stick"

ivory stream
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Any USB stick should be enough

main sable
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what is a usb stick in your area

ivory stream
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A dongle, a storage device, or your smartphone

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A usb stick would be a storage device

main sable
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i can plug in my smartphone but that only runs over usb-c

ivory stream
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At least at my country ^^

ivory stream
main sable
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yes but i am worried it will draw far too much power being a new samsung device

ivory stream
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Shouldn't matter. It should not harm your printer, unless your printer is already broken. But then it shouldn't harm it more

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You need to plug it in and then change to data transfer

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Something should appear then on dmesg -w, maybe even before changing it

main sable
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found my samsung found easily, does not find my 3do nozzle camera

ivory stream
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Then you need to disassemble your printer to get the cam plugged into another device to check it

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*plugging it in and checking all connections of the cables

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But if all cables are plugged in completely correct and it won't work with that extension cable on another machine, better would be without ofc, then you should contact 3DO: https://discord.gg/3do

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Just updating shouldn't burn the cam, unless there is some hw error from 3do or maybe BTT

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Took now way too long, due to those misunderstandings, but that's now everything I can do myself for you

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It's nothing software related if it's not detected on any other device and if it would work, it wouldn't be our software, but the whole OS being corrupt.