M1.1/EVA 3/Dual-Z/Custom enclosure

[feral prawn]

assuming you're not Denmark national?

[potent stone]

nope, I’m Italian

[tiny bramble]

Out of curiosity, what region?

[potent stone]

Piedmont

[tiny bramble]

Oooh!

Northwest, yes?

[potent stone]

@feral prawn can’t make a reaction to a reaction 😂

[potent stone]

yes

[feral prawn]

sorry couldn't resist

[tiny bramble]

Had to ask. I love geography and European history.

[feral prawn]

after all america has no history 🤣

[tiny bramble]

Eh, comparatively, yeah

[potent stone]

In Italy I live at 500m on the sea, just on the mountains feet. here in Denmark the higest place is the bridge to Sweden touching 120m or so 🤣

[tiny bramble]

Dang, that's a dramatic difference.

[feral prawn]

Denmark is fkin flat

[tiny bramble]

Texas is dramatic. We've got a dash of everything.

I was going to say The Netherlands is flat, but it's not. It's a bowl.

[potent stone]

I gues if there wasn’t Netherlands to beat us we would be the Netherlands… or we will be if the see get a notch higher than now

[feral prawn]

Netherlands with a tsunami just vanishes under water

[tiny bramble]

New Orleans has more to worry about than Netherlands. At least the Dutch are planning for that. We're just twiddling our thumbs. Ditto in New York harbor!

[potent stone]

Venice?

[feral prawn]

venice will become vanish

[tiny bramble]

Same kinda head-in-sand approach, yes. Although is there even anything Venice can do?

Except drain the water?

[feral prawn]

not really and IIRC they are skinking not just water rising

[tiny bramble]

Ohhh yeah

[potent stone]

the did a engineering masterpiece, hearing the project ads, but I am not sure how they implemented it… yeah sinking plus they have water rising. bad combo

[feral prawn]

I saw somewhere that they were adding barriers to avoid waves

but then salt water + any metal doesn't work

and the barriers were supposed to move down so ships can go through

[tiny bramble]

If I order my rails and Daylight on a Matchstick from Fabreeko, it'll be 110 with free shipping. If I order them from West3D, it's $105 with shipping.

The only difference is West3D has all of the parts now, but no 330mm rails, only 300mm. Fabreeko is out of stock on the Disco/Daylight sticks completely.

[feral prawn]

well 330 rails are worth it

[tiny bramble]

Iffff I plan on upgrading this bed.

[feral prawn]

still worth it

dude I'm on stock

🤣

[tiny bramble]

oh yeah, lol

my brain tired

[feral prawn]

(not for long I hope)

[tiny bramble]

I just really wanna get this second build done, I guess. I'm impatient.

[feral prawn]

might just get new extrusions as well and sell the OG ender

[tiny bramble]

I'd buy the frame, but...

[feral prawn]

Atlantic?

[tiny bramble]

that pond is in the way, yes

[feral prawn]

a small pond

[tiny bramble]

a pool, really

[feral prawn]

shipping it inside PT will already be a problem

[tiny bramble]

yeah, anything heavy is always a pain to ship

ordering extrusions from Misumi is a huuuuge cost sink.

shipping starts at $15 and goes up from them

[feral prawn]

indeed, too heavy and ship becomes the only way

sloooooooow

I might get them from RatRig

national shipping for me

[tiny bramble]

That's a good option to have

[feral prawn]

thinking on keeping dimensions but swapping as much as possible to 2040

aka top and bottom

since I also have the drill press I can make accurate holes for anything I need, just get a tap set

[tiny bramble]

That would save a ton

[feral prawn]

RR asks for 1e for each tapped extrusion

and that's just the ends

more might be even worse

[tiny bramble]

Eek, yeah

[feral prawn]

need to estimate cost

[cedar depot]

Crap belt came off carriage durning print ......spaghetti

[tiny bramble]

Serious? Slipped or snapped?!?

[cedar depot]

@tiny bramble left side slipped out of carriage during g a print ..spaghetti. this time I used extra blue loctite

[tiny bramble]

Is this your Z axis? I saw in Vengeful's thread that you're belted Z.

[cedar depot]

No must have been some confusion. It was the y belt on the ender 5 pro no big deal.

[tiny bramble]

Ah, gotcha

I'm pretty tired today, so I almost certainly misread something, lol.

[cedar depot]

All back together
Just have to get re le el again

Yea same here tired. Coffee time

[tiny bramble]

The as-yet-unnamed air filter project has some basic docs now: https://jon-harper.github.io/air_filter/

Going to keep working on this before posting it to the community mods channel

[tiny bramble]

Eh. Went ahead and ordered the rails and a roll of filament to get free shipping.

I'll do the day light on a stick later

[cedar depot]

Nice

This will work nice I think since I have a tent for the printer

[tiny bramble]

@cedar depot Docs for you (and anyone else interested). https://jon-harper.github.io/air_filter/

It has a name now.

[cedar depot]

Thanks

[tiny bramble]

Done fiddling with the air filter today. I think I might tackle CANbus next. Sighhhhhh...

[feral prawn]

@tiny bramble you know, that's actually a good name

[cedar depot]

my printers are down

[tiny bramble]

SUAFT is now in #1007998760967737364

So it's not the CAN. The logs specifically mention it's loss of connection to the MCU.

I moved the USB connection to another port on the Pi. Next is trying a different cable.

Tensioners are still jacked. I think I know why, and it's an incredibly stupid mistake (if I'm right).

Okay. I'm going to rebuild my model around the new STEP files. Swap out my jobbed up ones for the real thing. Then redesign the tensioners and rear walls with some stuff I have in mind.

With the filter designed, that just leaves the door switches, lights, and panels.

[cedar depot]

question on beacon

klipper keeps telling me I need a control_pin for it ..but i have removed the bltouch info

[cedar depot]

man the beacon is just not working for me so I must be doing soemthing wrong. X and Y keep homeing to back right corner. Even though I have z safe home set for the middle of the bed

[tiny bramble]

Sorry man, I don't have one yet to help you. 😦

[cedar depot]

@tiny bramble it's all good. I'll delete the config and start over

[tiny bramble]

Rails are about two hours away by car. They made it from Florida in less than 24 hours. BY GROUND. I mean, awesome, but damn, that truck driver had to have been going 85 through much of the Deep South.

[potent stone]

if only those rails could talk

[feral prawn]

train maybe?

or is that not a thing in the US

[tiny bramble]

I mean, they are, but they derail constantly. For historical, stupid reasons, transit by semi rules except for truly bulk shipping.

[tiny bramble]

hopefully they'll be very quiet. 😉

[tiny bramble]

You could be right, though. I don't live near a railway anymore to look at the cars.

[cedar depot]

Will mess with beacon tonight

[tiny bramble]

Good luck dude. Sorry you're having a run of trouble.

[cedar depot]

It's all good it's about the tinkering and learning curve

[tiny bramble]

New tensioner design coming.

[tiny bramble]

The tensioner capsule is now symmetrical. Mounts with two screws, although I need to move them forward. The cover is largely cosmetic and allows the tensioner to be printed flat.

[cedar depot]

Nice

[tiny bramble]

It's my way of killing time until FedEx gets here with my new rails. 🤣

[tiny bramble]

Oh shit. Those Vengefuls?

[cedar depot]

Yes

[tiny bramble]

His CAD is always so polished.

[cedar depot]

I printed them 3 4 days ago before the printer went down

[tiny bramble]

They look good

[cedar depot]

Thanks

Now I just need to get the outer part printed

Beacon homes x/y but not z

Trying to figure out why

[tiny bramble]

Any guess I have would be completely baseless, lol

[cedar depot]

Also still need the z tilt

Cr touch took a crap ...bed will not level. Stays in red. Doesn't matter if I compress springs flat

[tiny bramble]

So this design sucked. The easier solution was fixing the existing tensioner, so I did that instead. Should be able to install it without removing the belts, too. 😄

Be ready in six hours.

[potent stone]

I’ve installed the 1.1.5 without removing the belt… it was fun 😂

[tiny bramble]

WUUUUT

[potent stone]

the worst were the stepper towers, just because I’m dumb and messed up the belt path a couple times, but it wasn’t that bad, the new tensioner were very easy to install with the belt on before the shaft/flange. it was definitely longer than remove the belt and install it, but I didn’t want to deal with the belt clamps

[feral prawn]

you're insane

[potent stone]

I know 😅, but the advantage of doing as I did is that zi could change each of the 6 piece on its own… in case I didn’t have time to put on the others. undoing the belt meant leaving parts around for the next day, in case I couldn’t put all on in 1 go, cats/kids would have made a mess

[feral prawn]

there are things called boxes

you know? made of cardboard, plastic etc where you can store stuff 😁

[tiny bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/box-cat-box-box-cat-cat-in-box-cat-gif-17695298

[potent stone]

they are all occupied for the cats

exactly

[feral prawn]

damn

the trick is to have more boxes hlthan cats

I have 2 cats and about 109747473949 boxes

[potent stone]

hehe… but I also have the printer squatted in a place where I wasn’t supposed to occupy for that long… my wife subtly (not really ) points it out every now and than (every day)

[tiny bramble]

My cat points out if I have too much stuff on the desk so she can't jump off my printer enclosure. Somehow the enclosure became a platform.

[feral prawn]

I feel like mine will become a platform too

speaking of platform, I'll be installing the new table this weekend

[tiny bramble]

Oh nice!

[feral prawn]

leg arrives tomorrow

yes leg, one leg

[tiny bramble]

Ol' One Leg the Table.

[feral prawn]

I was tempted to make it legless

[tiny bramble]

bolted to the wall with supporting brackets?

[feral prawn]

but then wife said "its easy to make it legoless just never put legos on top"

[potent stone]

I made the new support legs for my enclosure cabinet 1mm to low and they move… I was thinking that’s an opportunity to fill the missing with some dampening material

[feral prawn]

two boards along 2 sides of the wall (corner)

pocket holes from those boards to the top

speaking of which need to get them from the garage

if it fails me I'll add more brackets

(aka print custom ones)

[cedar depot]

I have rhe 1.1.5 printed but not installed

Printed trident legs for mine with tpu Printed feet

[tiny bramble]

i forgot to slow down retraction the last time I used TPU. That went poorly.

Started out GREAT

[cedar depot]

Printed TPU same settings as asa

Printed awesome

[tiny bramble]

Huh

that's unexpected

[cedar depot]

I was surprised

I used the asa profile

[feral prawn]

how did it end

[tiny bramble]

Well. I finally got the filament out of the extruder and it had formed a knot inside the filament path to the hotend.

There was a LOT of TPU crammed in there.

[feral prawn]

last time my only problem was crazy oozing

on travels

like a lot of oozing

[tiny bramble]

lol

yeahhhh

[feral prawn]

a pain to cleanup

[tiny bramble]

TPU varies a lot from company to company, too.

So what works for one brand won't always for another.

[feral prawn]

still need to spend some time tuning it

I'll need to print some for the enclosure

[tiny bramble]

Ditto

Cmooooon FedEx!

[cedar depot]

ok time to mess with the beacon

[cedar depot]

got it scanning

whoaaa

yea I was at 0.86m

now at 2.255mm

crazy

[tiny bramble]

Can't react to that reaction, @potent stone, but lol.

[cedar depot]

yea ...deep slope

at least I have it level now but just low

the probe is pretty fast too

[potent stone]

I couldn’t resist

[cedar depot]

the slope ski...yea

[tiny bramble]

Glad you got the beacon working, Mike.

[potent stone]

what’s you z setup? 5+? dual z with independent motors?

[cedar depot]

dual/indepedent

yea i have ender 5 pro/ender 5 plus/voron 2.4r2

and elegoo saturn 2

for which i dont use anymore

nice dev 0.225mm

getting closer

[tiny bramble]

Annnnny time FedEx feels like showing up...

[cedar depot]

usps much better then fedex

[tiny bramble]

Yeah, FedEx is not the reliable delivery operation it used to be. I go with UPS more now.

[cedar depot]

oh yea

[tiny bramble]

OTOH, this package is a day early, and seemed to magically appear overnight from Florida.

[cedar depot]

fabreeko ?

[tiny bramble]

Yep

[cedar depot]

yea i order from them alot

[tiny bramble]

They didn't get the matchsticks in, but I got those coming from West3D

[cedar depot]

matchsticks "?

[potent stone]

don’t get me started with FedEx here 🤬

[cedar depot]

fedex gave my brand new router away to another person ....glad they brought it over to me

[tiny bramble]

Ruh roh!

[tiny bramble]

I get that one. Made a nice neighbor friend at a similar-looking house with a similar-sounding street name about a block away.

It's almost like all the houses around here look alike and have similar sounding street names...

[cedar depot]

cookie cutter houses

we have those here too

[tiny bramble]

Yeah. Suburbia is everywhere.

[cedar depot]

where you from I see USA flag

[tiny bramble]

DFW area

you?

[cedar depot]

dfw ?

Ohio

[tiny bramble]

Dallas-Fort Worth

[cedar depot]

nice

i was in houston about 2 years ago

[tiny bramble]

Dear heavens, I'm so sorry. 😉

[cedar depot]

why is that

[tiny bramble]

lol, Houston gets ragged on by much of Texas. Take your pick. Traffic, crime, weather, sports teams...

[cedar depot]

yea

moved parent from there to ohio

[tiny bramble]

Oh nice. Cooler weather, for sure.

[cedar depot]

yea but boring too

[tiny bramble]

lol, I've heard that

[cedar depot]

you ever go by gasmonkley garage ?

[tiny bramble]

No, never heard of it

Oh, wait

From the show!

[cedar depot]

fast n loud

i thinkits in dallas

[tiny bramble]

Those dudes work in the Industrial District of Dallas. 1) Getting there is hard and 2) it's not the safest place to go. I've been maybe twice to that area.

But OMG, once was to pick up the panels I had done for my enclosure. So awesome.

[cedar depot]

nice

not quite as nice ..guess ill have to keep tweaking

[tiny bramble]

I'm looking at that map, dude. That's incredible.

[cedar depot]

too high in the center

[tiny bramble]

tiny tiny bit

[tiny bramble]

FedEx came. Dude did not look like he was having a nice day.

[potent stone]

last time we use FedEx, I've see the FedEx Van coming in, I went out to get the package, seen the van going away, meanwhile, receiving the notification that there was no one home, so they'd take the package to the warehouse (and they don't do a second try here, you need to go and get it from them)

[tiny bramble]

Now they just leave the packages, but they used to do that. UPS was the worst about it when I was a kid.

[feral prawn]

at least the guy went to the house, last issue I had was with DHL, he didn't even come here, he just dropped them off at pickup point and said nobody was home... 2 construction guys outside, me and wife at home, checked camera footage at the time the tracking said nobody was here, of course no van to be found.

[feral prawn]

man I hate that, especially when it's where you don't have walls

[tiny bramble]

We built a wooden dog-house looking thing. Trap lid that the delivery drivers would put the boxes in. There were fewer drivers then, so we'd explain and they'd do it. Now we'd have to put a sign up or something.

[feral prawn]

I have a different issue now, because some of them know I'm 99% of the time home, if I don't show up they drop it over the wall (1.6m) the problem isn't things breaking but we being away for 2 or 3 days and rain

can't wait to get the new doorbell, so I can talk remotely with them.
"you either don't deliver it or please drop it in the garage"

[tiny bramble]

drop it over the WALL?

Maybe put a trampoline on the other side? 😆

[feral prawn]

yep over

generally it's not breakable things

that's why I want the damn smart doorbell, I can even build a box for them to drop stuff

[tiny bramble]

the box worked really well way back. hard part was getting the drivers to do it.

one fedex driver was a super ass and would set the parcel NEXT to the box, but not IN. and facing the street, so any car would see it.

almost done with the third rail

[feral prawn]

heh that kind of stuff that requires collaboration from driver has that problem

here as they're usually the same ones every day, and most already know me would be easy

[tiny bramble]

We had that box like 25-30 years ago and lived in the country then. Delivery drivers were a little less dime a dozen. 🙂

Last night / now

[tiny bramble]

Everything done but the toolhead now.

[tiny bramble]

Found some small oversights. Missing a 5015 blower that's 24V, damaged fan pin, etc.

[tiny bramble]

More progress.

[feral prawn]

looking good

[tiny bramble]

Argh. Remaining Ender 5 is my only working enclosed printer right now. Just threw an error. Jump jumped to 55C for some reason and it threw an error.

I think it may be that I'm cranking up the part cooling fan and it's distributing more heat to the chamber.

$160 for 7kg of CF-ABS is way too awesome a deal. I do not have a reason for that much CF-ABS, but daaaamn.

Sold out already, though.

Also, yes, the problem is the part fan. I caught it kicking in.

Raised the shutdown threshold to 60C but kept the watermark the same.

It's coming down from 57.5-ish

Or not.

It's holding at 57C. I lowered the part fan.

[tiny bramble]

New printer homes

[feral prawn]

noice

serial request when?

[tiny bramble]

soon-ish

gotta finish a lot of details

[feral prawn]

just messing with you

[tiny bramble]

Preload is definitely working...

1. Three hours ago
2. Two hours ago

[feral prawn]

don't want to ruin it for you but it's most likely the motora

[tiny bramble]

Well, biscuits and shit.

That's okay, cuz I got the new tensioners on the actual printer that this build log is supposed to be about.

[feral prawn]

heh 2 in 1

[tiny bramble]

Probably going to finish the new one (Oscar) wayyyyy before I finish the old one (Big Bird).

Now that there are two, I shall reveal my printer's code names.

[feral prawn]

not sure I revealed mine but it has a name as well

[tiny bramble]

drumroll

[feral prawn]

wat not saying

[tiny bramble]

lol

[feral prawn]

hahaha it's not very imaginative

Flow...

there are multiple reasons for the name though, one being half my nickname other half because plastic flows

[tiny bramble]

F$%#ing ridiculous. The tensioner is still acting up, but it's just that one part. I swear it's the toothed idler.

Wondering if I put the wrong shims in place.

[cedar depot]

jonspaceharper you get the 1.1.5 installed yet

[tiny bramble]

Yep. x2

[tiny bramble]

Nice! How's it working?

[cedar depot]

good so far

Im going to try and get the 1.1.5 installed this weekend

[tiny bramble]

Good luck. It's pretty simple once you get in the groove of doing it.

[cedar depot]

yea

[tiny bramble]

I think my 1.1.5 on this printer is b0rked though. Something is off about the idler.

the left toothed idler

[cedar depot]

bad shim ?

or printed part

[tiny bramble]

Not sure. Maybe I swapped two of the x joint printed shims?

Cuz the height really seems off.

[cedar depot]

I need to print the spacers

[tiny bramble]

Heh, I was printing last minute stuff I forgot all day.

Oh! The Y endstop! Oh the shroud!

[cedar depot]

printing @tropic idol the reset of the belt tensioner

[old marten]

the front xjoint spacers were updated shortly after the step file release. 3 versions now, along with labels on them.

[tiny bramble]

I will look into that, then. Thanks.

[old marten]

just the spacers, only added a size and labels

[tiny bramble]

I'm tired. Gonna go read and pass out. No late Friday for me.

[old marten]

8.5 is new

[tiny bramble]

Oh. Very nice.

[old marten]

very faint, but they are just deep enough to read

[cedar depot]

I have the fabreeko kit which one do I need I have the zero g kit 1.3 i think

I know I dont have the v1.4

[old marten]

either 8s or 9s

that style idler varies

some measure 8.5, 8.6, or 9

9s are what we used for those before, and they worked fine. Just had more up and down play.

to tight is bad

better to have them float

also I have had toothed idlers that were not bored large enough for the bearings, and once the bearing was pressed in they became crunchy.

[cedar depot]

I have the kit with the black rails

[old marten]

you should start your own build log 🙂

great way to share your build, and what mods you have done

[tiny bramble]

I don't think it's the idler spacers unless I switched them up, which I will check.

[tiny bramble]

Meow meow meow meow

https://tenor.com/view/meow-mic-test-gif-18321748

[feral prawn]

cant hear you 🤣

[tiny bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-big-lips-gif-13233291

[feral prawn]

still nothing

[tiny bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/roar-cat-cute-chibi-kawaii-gif-16495840

[feral prawn]

go check my pretty enclosure

[tiny bramble]

I saw! It's looking clean AF, dude

where will the camera go?

[feral prawn]

I'm thinking top back centered

[tiny bramble]

That's my favorite spot when I get it to work with lighting.

[tiny bramble]

Update: Not working on Big Bird today (the old Merc). Working on Oscar, who is being a fussy little baby.

[cedar depot]

@tiny bramble I think I might have my back printing again

[tiny bramble]

@worldly current Found a source for Daylight XXL. https://www.genericprinter.com/product/generic-xxl-lightstick/ Never seen the distributor before, though.

[feral prawn]

@tiny bramble FYI I followed Gargamel advice and went with these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32476317187.html

it ends up being a lot cheaper with RGBW

you might be able to find white only as well

[tiny bramble]

Oh, my Daylight on a Matchsticks will be here today. Beef was asking Fabreeko about Daylight XXL.

I honestly want the PCB because there's no glue to melt, lol

[feral prawn]

some screw on brackets to attach them work for.me

I'll get them on the enclosure

[tiny bramble]

They're going to look good. Those series of lights are awesome.

I'm using white because it's what I've already got wired.

[feral prawn]

I'll be doing white while printing color for heatup errors etc

going all fancy

[potent stone]

I also like to match opposite light color with the color that’s printing 😅

no macro for that though… just manual

[feral prawn]

ohh a nice idea to try out

I think I can automate it

[worldly current]

I got some XXL’s from a guy on etsy they work great

[worldly current]

wouldn’t you want to print this in white to absorb less light?

i guess it would be ugly tho

[tiny bramble]

Also who has white ABS?

Gray, though...

[tiny bramble]

Can't wait for mine to come in the mail today

[worldly current]

they’re slick

10x better than the strip lights i had

[tiny bramble]

Downloading some brackets now

Might as well be prepared

[worldly current]

spent like $300 on leds, power supplies, controllers, wiring, connectors all to not use it lol

yeah the 45 deg ones are nice on official docs

[tiny bramble]

oh good, those are the ones i grabbed

Yeah, this printer project I did awhile ago I spent a ton on lights and stuff, and had the same deal. Wound up doing something else entirely.

[worldly current]

i have all this brand new LED stuff i cant return now lol. I guess ill sell it for cheap in this server

[worldly current]

nevermind on them being nice lol. Im going to redraw them at 20-30 degrees so you can see first layer of print better. Also doesnt have anything on the back of the piece to locate it on the rail, it just free spins

[tiny bramble]

CAD time!

[worldly current]

I just installed 3 sets of them with 3 strips on each printer lol. took like an hour to set them up

going to make a spacing tool as well

[tiny bramble]

Can I have a look when you're done? I'm considering how to setup my own.

[worldly current]

spacing them was difficult IMO with printer on table. spacing tool would help a lot

[tiny bramble]

Are they in a row?

Got the matchstick modeled, finally.

[worldly current]

wdym?

[tiny bramble]

Like are they spaced in a row, or one in front and one on each side?

Oh, you got the XXL, yeah?

Nm, lol

[tiny bramble]

Daylight on a matchstick mount. Holds a diffuser. Mounts perpendicular to the extrusion (i.e., flat on the extrusion). <11mm thick. Would be thinner, but the connector on the stick is problematic.

[tiny bramble]

First print went okay. Need a brim, though.

[tiny bramble]

This design is inconvenient to install but lets me use the M3x6mm button heads I have sitting around. Looking forward to playing with the clear PETG to get different effects.

[tiny bramble]

This won't work. I'll work on another iteration tomorrow.

[cedar depot]

yea mine have 13 leds on them

clear filament would be cool

[tiny bramble]

PSA: This is not what the first layer of a Benchy should look like.

Not a cali cube, either.

I think one of the stepper pulleys was loose.

Yep. It was. Printing beautifully now.

[tiny bramble]

Wow. I have some issues here.

Started out fine, gradually turned to garbage.

[tiny bramble]

Fixed that #$@%. Heating up Grover to print it.

Simple, no fancy stuff. It's two holders that attach to the extrusion, then a diffuser that mounts along with the light strip.

Hopefully works with both button and socket head screws for the diffuser. The screws mount close to the LEDs so they don't get in the way.

Sent to print

[tiny bramble]

First print looks great, second is almost done. I'm working with Oscar (the new Merc) to get it printing. Lots of small issues adding up.

[cedar depot]

@tiny bramble can yours hold 13 v3d rgb leds ?

Mine are the ones you slide on diffuser type

[tiny bramble]

These are plain white LEDs, no RGB

[cedar depot]

ahh ok

I just dont really like the difusser slide on type that I have

[tiny bramble]

I worked with a coupler and none of them quite made me happy. Hopefully this does the job.

[cedar depot]

yea

https://www.3djake.com/vector3d/daybreak-neo?sai=14024

[tiny bramble]

How wide is the PCB?

It may be compatible if the holes are spaced the same

[cedar depot]

270×12×8mm

[tiny bramble]

Dang, nope. Well, the mount will work.

But the I'd need to know the hole spacing to make it work for yours

[cedar depot]

https://github.com/AdamV3D/V3D-Voron-Mods/tree/main/Daylight_on_a_Stick/Mounts/V2.4/V2

step file

[tiny bramble]

Dude. DUDE.

[cedar depot]

NICE

very bright

[tiny bramble]

That's just the mount, doesn't include the PCB. 😦

I just the need to know how far apart the screw holes are, really

[cedar depot]

printing these rat rig wire mgmt for the voron

ok

on the spacing

[tiny bramble]

got it!

197.6mm

[cedar depot]

oh for yours ?

or mine

[tiny bramble]

nope, should be yours

hopefully, can you check? it's for the classic daylight on a stick

[cedar depot]

neo

[tiny bramble]

It's derived from the "on the stick", so I think the hole pattern is the same

[cedar depot]

probaly

[tiny bramble]

hold on, must eat

[cedar depot]

take time no rush

https://github.com/AdamV3D/V3D-Voron-Mods/tree/main/Daylight_on_a_Stick/Daylight_Neo

close up pic

me too

time for some food

[cedar depot]

Strange printer is popping but cant tell where its comming from but only intermitten

[tiny bramble]

popping?

could it be air bubbles in the filament?

[cedar depot]

right belt is moving up/down

too loose ?

still printing good though

brand new roll and has been dried

strange cant take a video of it ...video keeps flashing

[tiny bramble]

That's a lot of belt motion

[cedar depot]

heck yea

i pulled that belt really tight too

left side straight

ill rip it apart after this print

only top belt

[tiny bramble]

looks like it's the upper belt that's the issue

lol

[cedar depot]

yep

ill mess with next week ...belt just came out of the tool head

[tiny bramble]

dafuq

[cedar depot]

loosened the belt crimp to pull it tighter and came all the way o

[tiny bramble]

Ahhhhh

[cedar depot]

so now I have to pull the whole tool head apart

[tiny bramble]

If there is one thing I could change about EVA 3...

[cedar depot]

the belts

yea

[tiny bramble]

Yeah. I'd love to be able to undo the belts without removing the hotend

[cedar depot]

yea its a pain

[tiny bramble]

Well, install the belts with the hotend already installed, rather

[cedar depot]

yea

well its broke for now

[tiny bramble]

Since I do not have the CAD, the stick_diffuser file may be wrong, but I hope not.

Wait. 270mm wide? Damn, no that's not right

[cedar depot]

Ill prijnt that aat work

8mm wide

270 length

[tiny bramble]

Yeah, I realized the length is different than the version I was modeling against.

[cedar depot]

ahhh

dont matter cant print right now anyway

dont feel like messing wit h the printer

[tiny bramble]

best rule I ever made myself is to know when to quit for the day

[cedar depot]

yep back right motor tower is broke

motor is moving up/down

[tiny bramble]

🤬

[cedar depot]

dont have all the 1.1.5 parts printed yet

so Im done for at least 2 weeks since I have no printer and on PTO

its all good

i got a new game to play

[tiny bramble]

lol, okay, you're good then, lol

[cedar depot]

yea just got released today

[tiny bramble]

Give me my distractions!

What game?

[cedar depot]

firmament

[tiny bramble]

Haven't heard of that one

[cedar depot]

check it out

myst game

pretty cool game

[tiny bramble]

oooooh

[cedar depot]

welk time to pack the filament away in a dryer box

[tiny bramble]

This looks awesome. Have fun.

[cedar depot]

plan on it

thanks

ill jump back on when I find a printer to print parts

[tiny bramble]

Playing with layer heights for this diffuser. I want more diffusion, so I'm going thicker. Alternatively, I'll make it thicker with equally thin layer heights. But I'm testing thicker layers first.

[tiny bramble]

So I guess I need to make this 1mm thicker or something.

It's TOO clear

[feral prawn]

white but .25 or .5mm

I think it will work better than clear

[tiny bramble]

I've got another, thicker version going right now at .16mm, because it came out foggiest. I believe it's a balance of diffraction through the layer and the number of layers. If I go with thicker layers, I'll get fewer layer boundaries again.

[tiny bramble]

ARGH.

Forgot to set to 100% infill.

[tiny bramble]

2.4mm thick diffusers look lovely.

[feral prawn]

pics pls

[tiny bramble]

@feral prawn Sorry, was away from keyboard. Some nice weather rolling through right now.

[feral prawn]

looking good

[tiny bramble]

That's at 75%, btw. I'm printing the final diffuser for the overhead triggered lights.

[tiny bramble]

This is bright.

[potent stone]

I can’t find a good image to count (maybe I should scroll more, but I’m lazy so just gonna ask :P). is this the 12 or 18 led stick?

and are those with 3 pins?

[tiny bramble]

12 pixels, 2 pin, 24v

It's 158mm wide, btw (I couldn't find that anywhere)

[potent stone]

I have all the electronics for the led wired up, I just need to find some nice lights, I have a meter of 5050 10mm addressable led, but it can be better I think

[tiny bramble]

The Disco on a Stick is just WS2812B, fwiw

There are ones with RGBW that look much better if you want bright and addressable (but that would mess up your wiring)

[potent stone]

ahhh, I have 2 rings 24v super bright!! the guy who sold me the nf crazy put lot of goodies extra in the box, fans, and those led. just 2 wires. So you hook it up on the unused hotend pins, or something like that?

or on instead of fan

[tiny bramble]

How many LEDs?

I'm using 24 on a fan port and it's okay

[potent stone]

can’t recall, I dismissed them because I am invested in 5v led… 2 ~10cm rings let me check

[tiny bramble]

oooh those will be interesting to see in use

[feral prawn]

@potent stone FWIW I ordered some 5v ones RGBW addressable

[potent stone]

7cm

I tested and they didn’t blow up at 24v, so I assume they are 24v

[tiny bramble]

Ooh, built in diffusers

[tiny bramble]

Swapped out the stepper drivers on Oscar, the new Merc. Hopefully that will fix the layer shifting, since the only change was a set of higher-current steppers.

no go.

[old marten]

what is your run current set to

and what board

[tiny bramble]

Problem: I get continuous layer shifting, always to the front right. Slow movements are not an issue, just rapid acceleration.

Things I've checked:

• Belt path & alignment
• Belt tension
• Stepper pulleys are tight and engaging
• Swapped stepper drivers
• Checked cable connections
• Corrected stepper current

[tiny bramble]

Octopus 1.1, set to 1.1A for 2A steppers

[old marten]

what speeds/accels

and did you use loctite on the pulley set screws?

[tiny bramble]

I did not (going to go back and do that), but they're very tightly engaged.

[tiny bramble]

max_velocity: 200
max_accel: 3000

Gonna check the set screws again anyway

[old marten]

set screws are the only thing I could think of with those settings

that or maybe you have bad steppers?

[tiny bramble]

I was thinking the same thing, but these are tested.

[tiny bramble]

Agreed. I'm gonna do loctite and see what happens.

[old marten]

had issues with my very first merc build setup, cannot recall what it did. But I had to loctite the pulleys to fix it.

[tiny bramble]

One simple cali cube, coming up. I feel like @old marten is right about loctite here.

[old marten]

my 5 pro is running at 1.1 run current, 600 travel moves at 10k

would be running at 1.4, but had klipper shutdowns from the drivers getting to hot.

[tiny bramble]

Hoping to reach 10k once this gets going. I did a lot of work to remove the stock frame brackets and square it up.

Even the frame taps are off-center on this one.

[old marten]

I only run 10k for travels and infill

slower accels for other features

but my current input shaper was rated for something like 6k

[tiny bramble]

That makes a lot of sense. Ringing doesn't matter where it's not visible

I haven't been able to get enough accel to play with acceleration control until now.

[tiny bramble]

Just gonna bookmark that in my brain...

[old marten]

no real testing to come up with those numbers, just sounded good when I entered them

[tiny bramble]

I haven't played much with PS or SS, so I'm absorbing whatever I can ahead of time.

Here goes the print

It looks very much like that fixed it. Many thanks, @old marten.

...Now this means I have to fix the tensioners on Big Bird.

That's okay. Tomorrow.

These grub screws are undersized, I believe. And I grabbed blue loctite, so they're working loose again already. I have spares and red loctite, though.

[old marten]

first I have heard of that one

I would just swap out the pulleys then

[tiny bramble]

To make sure I'm not crazy and the loctite didn't set before it was all the way in, I retightened all of the grubs and am reprinting. Then I'll swap with fresh grubs. Really don't want to undo all the belts, but if I have to...

[old marten]

I have done plenty of work just by loosening the front towers

I might have even swapped motor mounts once before without taking off the belts from the tool head?

[tiny bramble]

lol, okay, I'll get experimental if I have to, then.

[old marten]

I have swapped a lot of parts, many without undoing the belts at the tool head... every released and un-released update.

[tiny bramble]

Looks like the loctite set on me before I got the screws all the way in. Still keeping a close eye on this, though.

[tiny bramble]

Got the belts tensioned to around 120Hz.

About to rerun the accelerometer and fine-tune it.

[tiny bramble]

Getting closer

No idea why the massive peak at 100Hz

Yes...I think it's time to go faster.

[worldly current]

X graph looks good. Whats up with Y?

[tiny bramble]

Something is rattling.

That's all I can figure.

But it's def weird.

[feral prawn]

There was a macro to generate vibration frequencies

[tiny bramble]

Hmm. Well, it's definitely the bottom belt on the y axis, but why?

More tests, I guess.

[tiny bramble]

Making very slow progress here. Busy writing an article.

[potent stone]

I wish I was native speaker, writing is a pain in the ***

[tiny bramble]

Still a pain to me, even native. This language is annoyingly flexible. I was a business writer for a long time, so I use too many words when one will do.

[potent stone]

My supervisor when I was studying was American, and he said in technical/scientific writing nobody cares if you repeat the same words 10 time in 5 lines (In italian we tend to stretch to very obscure synonyms instead of repeating a word twice in the text)

it just need to be clear, no doubt of what you are saying… after many years, I still didn’t managed to get there 😅

[tiny bramble]

Lol, that may be my problem. I hate repeating words with multiple syllables and refuse to use one more than twice in a sentence. I try to stick to once every two sentences at most.

[tiny bramble]

Honestly, most native English speakers can't write, either. You're in good company. 😉 😆

P.S. I loved Umberto Eco's writing. His addiction to synonyms was fun.

[potent stone]

I can't write in Italian either :P... I guess it boils down on being a story teller or not 😂 ... I pity those depending on the documentation I wrote. You're are so complete and clear! I really admire your effort on writing up like that

[tiny bramble]

❤️ many thanks!

If you want to tell any recruiters you know... lol

[potent stone]

eheh... you know, I want to start a business around a software I wrote, and I need better documentation :D.. but I have no extra funds, and the business plan is crap, so..

[tiny bramble]

If that changes, you know where to find me. 😉

[feral prawn]

the hard part is never writing the code, is the business plan

[tiny bramble]

Indeed. Ideas are easier to come by than a good business plan.

(And startup capital)

[feral prawn]

I had a lot of ideas, started a lot of projects, but never managed to create a plan to market etc

[tiny bramble]

Ditto. But ideas have to come before marketing plans, so it makes sense there are always more ideas than plans, I guess.

[potent stone]

I started car sharing app in 2010 (repo is still there abandoned), than I thought it was dumb and never finished

[tiny bramble]

The accumulated stress from being responsible for a car sharing app would take 10 years off of your life. Good decision, IMO. 😉

[cedar depot]

Anything new going on ..been a bit since being here

[tiny bramble]

Not until this weekend, probably. I've been working on an article all week. HOPING to get a printer up this weekend, but... 🤞

[cedar depot]

@tiny bramble yea me too Voron almost ready to print

[tiny bramble]

COEX filament is now selling chipboard/cardboard spools. Might have to give them another shot.

[old marten]

Their abs colors are lacking and the price isn't competitive. But they are us made and one state away from me

Use their pla at work

[tiny bramble]

Yeahhhh just saw the price... 😦

Not impressed with the specs on their ABS Prime, either

[cedar depot]

@tiny bramble getting closer

[tiny bramble]

That looks great

[cedar depot]

Zero G been updated 1.1.5

[cedar depot]

Yea its comming along only been 5-6months progress

[tiny bramble]

Good news: Daylight on a Sticks are out for delivery.

Going to try and get Oscar to behave today. Wish me luck.

[feral prawn]

good lack

[tiny bramble]

I'll take that, too

[feral prawn]

another and you build an enclosure

[tiny bramble]

For and Ender 3 or some such. Blech...

I cannibalize Ender 3s for terrible purposes.

How to use an Ender 3 to build a Merc:

1. Disassemble it.
2. Use the parts to build a heat set insert press.
3. Throw away the rest.

Hmm. I do have the parts to build another bed slinger, though... EDIT: my sanity returned

[tiny bramble]

I rotated a stepper that had a wire that may be brushing the belts. @old marten that tip about not undoing the belts saved me a ton of time; thank you. Got the belts settled again and have retensioned to 120Hz. About to start doing tests.

[tiny bramble]

What is going on with my bottom belt?!?

[old marten]

To loose

[tiny bramble]

It seemed loose but I tuned both to 120Hz. Inner belt, 150mm away. I'm doing something wrong with my spectrometer.

[old marten]

I find those apps hard to use still, they get things close

From there I use that graph

[tiny bramble]

Gotcha. I'll tighten em up.

[old marten]

Wrong belt,

Or did you tighten both

[tiny bramble]

Tightened both

[old marten]

Just one

Loosen one this time

Think blue is left?

[tiny bramble]

Gotcha. What's up with the giant peak on the lower belt? I can't resolve it.

[old marten]

Might clean up as they even put in tension

[tiny bramble]

I reset the tension, tuned to 120. This is the second test. I think the right belt (orange) needs to go a touch tighter.

[feral prawn]

wait how do you tension from input shaper

(still need to setup mine)

[tiny bramble]

Right?!? Just discovered this. One sec.

https://www.klipper3d.org/Measuring_Resonances.html#testing-custom-axes

[feral prawn]

so blue is tuned to 100?

but the other which peak

[tiny bramble]

Getting closer

I tuned them both to 120 (as close as I could get) and am now gradually tightening the loose one. @feral prawn

[feral prawn]

these things still confuse me

[tiny bramble]

The giant peak on the blue one? That's what I can't figure out.

The graphs are supposed to match, but something is loose or rattling on that belt

Worried it could be the toothed idler

Not sure if this is close enough.

[old marten]

That's one off my 5 pro last time I ran it

[tiny bramble]

Ah, so that peak is not something to worry about too much. But I can bring the belts closer, too.

[old marten]

That's my understanding of it

I also organize all my charts

[tiny bramble]

I'm keeping track of this tuning so I can compare between

[old marten]

Need to start adding notes as to what charged when I run them

[tiny bramble]

That's a good idea. Do you ever use OneNote?

[old marten]

Tried it, not for me

[tiny bramble]

Right on. But some kind of tool like that might help.

Looks much better

[old marten]

Odd that the spikes flipped

[tiny bramble]

It's because the axes are labeled differently. Just the chart changing the color

[old marten]

Ahh

[tiny bramble]

The peaks are definitely much sharper.

[feral prawn]

I still don't understand how you read the frequency

how do you know when it's tight enough?

[old marten]

Any background noise shows on those apps

Another printer printing makes it impossible to use

[tiny bramble]

Had to turn everything off in the room and it was still noisy

[potent stone]

this seems one could run a jupiter notebook on the pi and keep track of things 🤔, I wonder if it’s possible. Also it could be nice to have mainsail automate and annotate this things

[feral prawn]

any good guide on this stuff? I have gone through klipper docs and still dont get ir

[tiny bramble]

I'm trying to follow what TC says and my iota of common sense offer.

[old marten]

I still have no idea what causes the spikes in the graphs, I jus fake my way along with it

[tiny bramble]

K. I left the belt tension as-is with the last test. I'm doing accel testing now to see how it goes.

Had to stop for a bit; met with an editor.

[worldly current]

https://youtu.be/M-yc_XM8sP4

video that helped me out a bit

I’m doing accelerometer data analysis stuff at work, learning more about it every day

[tiny bramble]

omg. 30 minutes. why can't people write stuff anymore. 😭

[worldly current]

it’s sectioned out, not a bad watch

[tiny bramble]

oh good

[old marten]

its not a easy topic to write about either

lots of visuals needed

[worldly current]

Using accelerometers at work to determine forces present within hitch mount accessories (bike racks, cargo carriers etc). Analyzing accelerometer data can be very confusing lol. working on low pass filtering and FFT of my data. FFT stuff is more applicable to input shaper because it transfers time domain data to frequency domain data, like input shaper charts.

hoping for my work to help me with my input shaper understanding

[tiny bramble]

I'm guessing it's CPU power that prevents us from using FFTs?

Cuz I know those are super CPU intensive and the Pi is not.

[worldly current]

no that chart is an FFT of accelerometer data I believe

It’s in Frequency domain I believe

i’m trying to get better at reading FFT charts and such is what i’m saying, hopefully my knowledge transfers to input shaper

[tiny bramble]

LOL, I realized the last time I read about FFTs was in the late 90s... I imagine technology has progressed. FFS, lol.

[worldly current]

working on writing R script to analyze CSV files, would be cool if i took raw CSV data from input shaper and did my own graphing and analysis of it

[tiny bramble]

This is my only concern so far. Probably not going to occur often, but it's interesting.

[old marten]

that chain looks sketchy

[tiny bramble]

I did a fair bit of looking into chain mounting options before I went with that. I chose 7mm chain because it's very lightweight. The sag is deliberate and within tolerances. It just looks sloppy. 🤷

We have liftoff.

It's printing. 😄

Right, so one working printer (still to be tuned) down, one to go.

And the Daylight on a Sticks are here

[tiny bramble]

This looks like layer shifting, but it wobbles back and forth.

[potent stone]

wow, how fast was it?

[tiny bramble]

60mm/s, IIRC.

It's not a big part, either

[potent stone]

are the z system wobblying or because the vibrations?

[tiny bramble]

It looks more like layer shifting. I haven't touched the Z axis.

[potent stone]

it could be the motor pulley, i had similar issues because the pulley were sliding skipping random tiny steps

[tiny bramble]

Good thinking, but if that were the case, the shifting would accumulate. This wobbles back and forth every few layers.

[potent stone]

but it seems it keeps going straight overall in the right direction

[tiny bramble]

Yeah. Normally layer shifting would angle off in one direction.

And it's shifting like it would if it were layer shifting! but then it shifts back.

[potent stone]

can you measure if the bed moves horizontally back and forth when moving up/down?

[tiny bramble]

I've wondered about mounting an accelerometer to it, but it's not shifting like that.

[potent stone]

logically it’s the only thing that makes sense, right?

[tiny bramble]

The shifts are angled, which makes if it's the steppers being weird.

[potent stone]

but why would it cycle so precisely

[tiny bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/kikicat-kikiapp-kiki-cat-cute-cat-gif-19476695

[tiny bramble]

It's not really precise, though. It's more like both steppers randomly lose a step on fast travels..

shit like the accel is too high for the stepper

I'll crank it way down, try again.

[potent stone]

ohh yeah

[tiny bramble]

Capped accel at 3k. That should do. If they can't do 3k, I'm in trouble.

[potent stone]

you have SO motors, right?

[tiny bramble]

SO?

They're 48mm 2A steppers from Stepperonline

LOL SO = stepperonline

omg

[tiny bramble]

Yes, I have SO motors, lol

[potent stone]

I wanted to get those, but from ali I waited weeks without any order updates. so I got LDOs… than I found out I could have them fro. amazon 😓 next day delivery

they look good, I heard they are also less noisy than ldos

[tiny bramble]

They've been super solid for me

[potent stone]

so if 3k is no go, something else is off, I wouldn’t blame the motor 🤔

[tiny bramble]

These motors worked fine on another printer I built before this. I'm reusing stuff, actually.

Well, mostly. Not the rails.

[tiny bramble]

Same issue. Cutting the run current.

[tiny bramble]

Slightly improved. I'm going to let it cool down, reslice, and try again.

[feral prawn]

@tiny bramble cheapo dfrobot motors here handle 10k IIRC

how many amps they running

[tepid portal]

Jon, you wouldn't be willing to share the step files/stl files for those tensioners you made would you?

[tiny bramble]

Yes, but they don't work right now. 😦 One of them is off and I'm trying to figure out why.

[tiny bramble]

I keep lowering it. Down to 0.75 this last run. 0.8 looked the best. None of this makes sense, so I'm thinking the steppers or drivers are having issues.

[tiny bramble]

I'm doing accel testing with the lowered voltage now

[tiny bramble]

Not done, but I've suppressed a lot of the peaks

It's weird trying to tune and tighten both belts in lockstep.

I think we have a winner.

[tiny bramble]

Still a touch of shifting, but I turned the current way down to 0.75. Retrying at 0.9A now that the belts are nice and tight.

[tiny bramble]

K. Fairly certain this is a board or driver issue. 0.9A caused all kinds of issues again.

[tiny bramble]

Got an idea. I'm going to take the lid off of the case. That should greatly help cooling and eliminate the drivers.

If this works (printing now) it would explain a great deal. This case has the least airflow of my OmniBoxes.

[tiny bramble]

HA! I think I found the issue. Going to have to print a new back panel for this case that mounts a fan, though.

[tiny bramble]

Definitely cooling related. I've got a new rear panel ready to print. It's going to take awhile, though. My only printer rn is the Ender 5 Pro.

[tepid portal]

I’d be happy to help diagnose and try to fix a couple things?

[tiny bramble]

One sec. I forgot @short cove has a working version. He modded mine and I know his version works. I think I have it.

Update: nope, doesn't work.

@tepid portal Give me a sec to start a print and I'll get you the step file as-is. May or may not work.

[tepid portal]

No rush, thanks!

[tiny bramble]

I really hope this new rear panel works. If it doesn't, I will be sad.

Fully panel mounted like the my other merc, though.

[tiny bramble]

Usual caveats and lack of warranty apply. The left belt is too low on my build.

@tepid portal Should sit in your V slot channel nicely. I modified it from the T slot I use.

[tepid portal]

Thanks! Just opened them up. The issue you were having was with belt alignment right?

[tepid portal]

Nevermind, apparently I can’t read haha

[tiny bramble]

It is belt alignment. It may be my frame, my belt installation, or the tensioners. Thus all the lack of warranties and such. 🙂

Specifically my lower belt/left tensioner.

[feral prawn]

any reason to cut deeper on the back

[tiny bramble]

cut deeper?

[feral prawn]

on the connector cutouts

[tiny bramble]

Ah, so the panel mounts snap in

The XT-60 projects exactly 2mm, so it's a 2mm thick cutout

and so on

[tepid portal]

Okay, made some changes so that it will work with my zeroG, hopefully we are on the same rev and it will work for you also. I’m doing some tests out of PLA now and will report back if it all aligns nice

[feral prawn]

oh damn might need to cut mine like that

[tiny bramble]

Yeah, that's why the F3D and STEP file contain bodies and not just sketches. Includes depth

[feral prawn]

crap

[tiny bramble]

eep, sorry dude

[feral prawn]

no worries not printed yet

[tiny bramble]

With a little more experience I'll write up a guide on making a back panel, maybe

[feral prawn]

possibly maybe

[tiny bramble]

Sweet! Lemme know how it turns out! If your prints aligns okay, then I know it's my build.

[short cove]

Mine still has belt issues that I haven’t looked into yet. It is the right hand x joint toothed idler that the belt walks up and scraps. But doesn’t affect prints or make noise when printing.

[tiny bramble]

I forgot you were having issues until I went back and re-read what happened.

[short cove]

I feel a screw top and bottom to help align the insert would help

I also printed a couple of frame braces and a vzbot toolhead with no issues too. Just minor belt rub issue.

[tepid portal]

I’d venture to bet that aligning the screw with the center of the pulley would be best, you would just need to be careful that the screw you use wouldn’t be too long at max tension. Could always make the C shape deeper

Also, here are the results of the batch I printed

It seems to be aligned with my carriage brackets, but it looks like my print head is a bit too high relative to my carriage. I wonder if the rails I bought are taller than standard

[tiny bramble]

What version did you print of the EVA files?

[tepid portal]

I’ll have to dig back and confirm

[tiny bramble]

The belt angle won't affect print quality, but it is incorrect in that version of the front.

Trying to bring up Big Bird (the first Merc) and can't get the MCU to connect. I was having issues with it earlier and swapping cables is not helping.

[tiny bramble]

Dang, it looks like you printed an old version of the front. The BLTouch is older. Did you get them off GitHub or Printables?

I always forget to reply directly reply to notify ppl.

Ah, I see. I accidentally ran system up date on this printer and now I've been bitten by the USB bug

[tepid portal]

Interestingly, that seems like the only one I printed from the git hub. I’ll print the most current one and give that a shot now

[tiny bramble]

One sec. Something's up.

Okay, it's an old file and the last two commits aren't there. WTF>

@tepid portal I've uploaded the correct files for the front and belt grabbers.

[tepid portal]

Great, will give those a shot. Thanks!

[tiny bramble]

Sure thing. Sorry for the issue. 😦

[tiny bramble]

Rear panel for Oscar is printed. Printing the fan cage, then I can install this and see how it goes.

Still working on the connection issue with Big Bird.

[tiny bramble]

Oscar's parts are done. Gonna have a little coffee ☕ and start figuring stuff out.

[tiny bramble]

Hmm. Oscar's parts are done, but the new bed cable isn't here yet. I may wire it up anyway with the cable I have and just leave the back panel loose.

[tiny bramble]

TODO:

1. Oscar: Install Daylight on a Stick/free up Daylight on a Matchstick for Big Bird.
2. Oscar: Print the new HSI/lid support crossbar and install.
3. Oscar: Transition to new rear panel and install fan.
4. Big Bird: fix USB communication.
5. Big Bird: test belt alignment resolution.
6. Big Bird: test Daylight on a Matchstick, print more mounts
7. Lastly, get a running Merc to do another OmniBox test print.

Big Bird is not fixed by the udev patch. Something else is wrong and I've swapped USB cables three times.

[tiny bramble]

Daylight on a Stick installed. Looks funny because I printed it in two pieces to fit on my bed more easily.

[short cove]

This is what I did when I had issues due to print tolerances. It works well, I haven’t had time to look at my belt issues yet or if it’s alignment issues. I’m running modded x joints for stealthburner too that I made from the stl’s a while back.

[tiny bramble]

Got a lot done, but only got to tick off one of the seven printer-related things. Wound up running errands and working on some other stuff.

[cedar depot]

@tiny bramble

Finally got it printing

[tiny bramble]

New OmniBox for Oscar. Air intakes are moved up front. Working on adding a blower for the stepper drivers.

[cedar depot]

@tiny bramble nice

I need to find something to replace the metal case on the ender 5 plus. Pain to get the electronics

[tiny bramble]

https://jon-harper.github.io/OmniBox
Takes a bit to print, but very well worth it. Makes servicing things a lot easier.

[cedar depot]

Plug n play ?

Skr ezboard

[tiny bramble]

Not exactly. You have to pick the parts you need for your configuration.

But the skr 3 ez is supported, if that's what you mean

[cedar depot]

Ok wasn't sure on connections for all the wiring

[tiny bramble]

Two options: just pass it through cutouts (the default) or figure out a panel mounting solution like mine.

I may actually have a spare case from the last release soon here. I print several for each release.

[cedar depot]

Yep

I know nothing is plug n play

[cedar depot]

Omnibox Not compatible with other SKR trays.

skr3 ez

[tiny bramble]

That's the one you have? The SKR 3 EZ?

@cedar depot Here are all the MCUs supported: https://jon-harper.github.io/OmniBox/0.9.9/support/mcu/

[cedar depot]

@tiny bramble I really like the omnibox

[cedar depot]

@tiny bramble Just curious how much filament do I need to print one of the onmi boxes I have ender 5 plus/skr3 EZ board/PI4b/SSR 4 ( 4010 fans ) Just trying to get ideal on everything. Also can you send some pics

[tepid portal]

2nd try. First try had a derailment after a few hours of printing due to the angle caused by the screw. I added another option to have the screw inline with the pulley and am trying again. If this works I’ll send the step and stl files

[tiny bramble]

Takes about 1 roll-ish

[tiny bramble]

Oh dang. That's some shavings.

[tiny bramble]

What pics do you need? I've got plenty, but if something missing from the doc site for clarity and whatnot, let me know.

[tiny bramble]

About to close up Grover's OmniBox here soon.

[cedar depot]

@tiny bramble Nice

I'm still have to download all the parts

How much Filament est does it take to print

[tiny bramble]

The core body takes ~.75kg of PLA, depending on print settings. I know that one for certain.

The rest puts you around 1kg-1.25kg total. That's a bit of a guess since I don't reprint all the panels and such every time.

[tiny bramble]

Are you following the print checklist? Lots easier to make sure you've got what you need.

[cedar depot]

@tiny bramble yes following the print guide. I have it on the screen ( very well documented ) I was looking too see if I had enough filament

[tiny bramble]

Thanks! Just making sure. The BOM has filament and all the other stuff you'll need, as well.

@cedar depot PS: I have a spare case. Don't know what shipping is, but if you can cover that, you're welcome to it.

[cedar depot]

color ?

[tiny bramble]

Solid gray. Polymaker gray.,

[tiny bramble]

Same as this

It's a test article, so not the super prettiest print, but it'll do.

[cedar depot]

ill have to print it was planning on using black/red

but it does look nice

[tiny bramble]

Heh, thanks. Just offering since I have spares of these all the time.

[cedar depot]

I have everything except the heatbed connector

[tiny bramble]

You don't have to use a heatbed connector. I use started doing this instead of passing the wire through.

One sec. I'll show you what a generic panel looks like

Generic rear panel: Fan in the middle pulls air through the case and over the stepper drivers with cutouts for wiring to pass through over and under.

[cedar depot]

Looks good \

[tiny bramble]

Oscar is back up.

About to print a calibration cube.,

I also put the case temp thermistor by the stepper drivers for a better reading.

Printing.

NO. NOT AGAIN.

Run current is now 1.0A. Going to try this...again.

Looks better now...

Still shifting.

WTF.

Okay, I'm ordering new steppers. Dunno what else to do and I'll end up using them anyway.

Seems to stop shifting after the first couple of layers??

About 2mm up

[feral prawn]

that's weird

[tiny bramble]

Starting to wonder if it's not the current draw from the lights. ~40 lights + bed + hotend + pi + fans...

Then add a bunch of new current draw from the steppers...

Also printing PETG, so lots of waste heat

[feral prawn]

try without lights?

[tiny bramble]

Just unplugged em all

🙂

[feral prawn]

how much is PSU?

350?

[tiny bramble]

350W

[feral prawn]

bed alone (ender 5 is 220)

130 remain, also its never exactly 350 so I would say 100, hotend alone 50?

[tiny bramble]

I believe it's a 50W cartridge

[feral prawn]

that leaves you with 50 (and some margin)

if leds are 40

[tiny bramble]

Exhaust fan is running, that's about 3.5W

plus all the case fans are about 0.1 A

[feral prawn]

10+ the removed 30 for margin)

[tiny bramble]

This does seem the likely culprit.

Is my math wrong?

[feral prawn]

each stepper should take 4W at most

that's too tight

[tiny bramble]

Just 4W?

[feral prawn]

3.5V (usually a little less) at 1A is 3.5W

V * A = W

[tiny bramble]

ahhhh

[feral prawn]

so like you can see is tight

leds off and try it

I only plan to have mine working with hydra

[tiny bramble]

Oh, heck. I did the math all in one equation and got 306W with the lights off.

[feral prawn]

add lights 346

[tiny bramble]

LRS-450-24 will fit, but it's $70. 😦

[feral prawn]

you need a 500W PSU 😅

[tiny bramble]

Orrrr

[potent stone]

maybe you can add another cheap psu

spare

[tiny bramble]

ding ding ding

[potent stone]

oooor

[tiny bramble]

Finding out how cheap and small a 24V PSU is. Octopus has 3 power inputs. I can just power one from that.

[potent stone]

you can move the bed to ac

[tiny bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/wiping-sweat-with-money-trouble-pocket-full-of-dead-dudes-song-im-so-rich-its-hot-gif-21429139

[feral prawn]

this is the right answer

wait you're not made of money?

[potent stone]

it doesn’t need to be expansive

[tiny bramble]

No, I am NOT a cannibal.

[feral prawn]

come on everyone who's into 3D printing is

[tiny bramble]

I'd be like, "here, have three thumbnails for that Voron."

[feral prawn]

hehehe

[potent stone]

you can just get a ssr, a silicon pad an use your current bed (yeah, it’s an irreversible move… but still…

[feral prawn]

he does have a point

[potent stone]

I think I’ve even seen 235 mic6 bed… but yea, that’s slightly more expensive

[tiny bramble]

I have an SE-450-24 underneath this enclosure. But it won't fit my OmniBox.

Grr.

RS-75-24 is 25$

I will need to think on this issue.

In the mean time, I've set max_power on the bed to 75% and am now trying a reprint.

[feral prawn]

just kill the lights

[tiny bramble]

I did. Still acted funky, or appeared to.

[feral prawn]

hm

[tiny bramble]

We'll see when it prints

This looks more promising.

[feral prawn]

dying PSU?

[tiny bramble]

could be. I forgot which machine this PSU came from.

I had one machine I bought and the seller told me the PSU was bad and he had given up on it. After a (very) thorough dusting, it's run wonderfully.

It's printing better. One layer shift at the start of the print.

Also remembered the toolhead CAN board is going to draw some power, too.

Prolly not much, but it's there.

[feral prawn]

it will

[tiny bramble]

Almost done. Looks much better.

Think I'm going to have to bite the bullet on the new 450W power supply. Every other option takes too much time or costs too much.

This sucks, because I will also need to figure out a solution for my other Merc.

[cedar depot]

Im running a UHP 200-hp

voron 2.4r2

[tiny bramble]

I don't have an AC bed

[cedar depot]

zero G is a 500watt

Both printers are AC bed

Zerog is a 1000watt fabreeko bed and the other is a voron 750w bed

[tiny bramble]

I'll trade you a questionable 350W PSU for that 500W PSU... j/k. kinda.

[cedar depot]

lol

mine is orig to the ender 5 plus

@tiny bramble next going to be the omni box for the zero g I really dislike the creality case

[tiny bramble]

Noice

[cedar depot]

@tiny bramble got to the crossbar main body crossbar file under guided tour says it doesn't exist

@tiny bramble https://github.com/jon-harper/OmniBox/tree/0.9.9-frozen/Core/0.9.9-frozen Body/Crossbar

@tiny bramble same for the front body files https://github.com/jon-harper/OmniBox/tree/0.9.9-frozen/Core/0.9.9-frozen Body/Front

@tiny bramble I think I was still able to get to the files

[tiny bramble]

Oh NO! I see what happened! OH dude, that's ridiculous. I need to fix that.

Sorry, I was running an errand.

[cedar depot]

its all good

@tiny bramble

I think I have all the files

[tiny bramble]

if you print the unified base, you don't need the front and rear

[tiny bramble]

you only need one LED backer

@cedar depot do you have a Raspberry Pi?

[cedar depot]

ok

[tiny bramble]

FYI that side panel does not work well with the current OmniBox release if you have a Raspberry Pi. The extension cables don't turn that tightly.

[cedar depot]

Yea i have a PI4B

[tiny bramble]

Is it going in the OmniBox?

[cedar depot]

yes

[tiny bramble]

Right on. You'll want a CPU tray for it

[cedar depot]

will a ssr fit in there too