Ender 5 Plus - Mercury 1 (Classic) with Stealth Burner and New Enclosure Project

[naive swan]

i am using xlimit on the xmount

[vocal terrace]

Vengeful what ur ass tag

[naive swan]

what

[vocal terrace]

Ur not a true wan listener

[naive swan]

im 2 hrs behind

wth

still watching

well 3hrs

[dawn vapor]

Not sure if your looking for vendors for your BOM but i think misumi is pretty affordable.

[naive swan]

not right now, i am am doing the xl top hat right now

[dawn vapor]

For the extrusions

[naive swan]

tophat xl

vs standard

[vocal terrace]

Klipper is in New prusa slicer version

[naive swan]

not sure

i know it has 32 bit and and input shaper

[vocal terrace]

No the slicer

[dawn vapor]

@naive swan What are you running on raspberry? Octoprint/klipper or mainsail?

[vocal terrace]

Octoprint is dogshit

[naive swan]

klipper/fluidd on a le potato

Top hat XL is loaded now
https://github.com/Vprince099/ZANDVE

alright i am going to watch the rest of wan show from my bed room

[deep vine]

The infamous esun fire engine red

[naive swan]

i love it and hate it

i like the color hate the burn shadows it sometimes had

[deep vine]

Ooooh, I want I want

[naive swan]

it may just become the standard

[deep vine]

Especially for umbilical

[naive swan]

yeah i am not sure if it will be enough but it will be way better than now for that

[deep vine]

Yeah that’s true

[naive swan]

Someone will need to test

[deep vine]

It look more proportional to the lower section in term of height

[deep vine]

Sign me up

[naive swan]

i am going to use it for the voron version for sure

but x mount testing is my top priority at this time

[naive swan]

completely agree, it was the max i could go without it looking odd

[deep vine]

What part are you testing?

[naive swan]

a new one but i need some parts to come in so i can start striping the Voron test bed

[deep vine]

Carbon x gantry?

[naive swan]

no

its a mod for all zero g printers

including zandve of course

[deep vine]

Ahh okay okay.

When will the new xl design be loaded up?

[naive swan]

its loaded

the cad?

a new folder does exist for the stls already

the load takes awhile

[deep vine]

Oh yeah I see it now, I’ll start printing after I finish the first bits I’ll start

[deep vine]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-gif-23730687

ahh crap, i was wondering why the left frame top plate took so long to print, i had it set to 100% infill

[mild hinge]

Do they make capicorn xs in black ?

[naive swan]

I have no idea

[deep vine]

which voron feet did you use @naive swan

trident? because they all seem to be a smaller dimension

[naive swan]

Trident

One sec

Reliable Hardware Company... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JJ191Z6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[deep vine]

Nice, thank you.

[naive swan]

Np

[deep vine]

how did you cut your clear sheet? ive found a scoring blade on amazon that looks good.

[mild hinge]

@naive swan you have the beacon? You like it ? How well does it performance?

@naive swan thinking about ordering one for each printer

@naive swan does it work well on pei boards

[vocal terrace]

bruh

dont ping

it doesn't use PEi it uses the actual bed

u need thicker bed

its bed levlin not sheet

[deep vine]

@naive swan i think there might be a hole missing for the top hat lock

[naive swan]

Nope

[deep vine]

is that hole not for a bolt?

[naive swan]

It’s for at m5 heat insert

[deep vine]

just on one side?

[naive swan]

Then an m5

Both sides

What the

[deep vine]

on the stl there is only a hole on the left one

[naive swan]

How is that possible

Dang

Ok

Going in

Not good

[deep vine]

this is part of the testing right?

[naive swan]

I must have deleted when I dissolved history

[deep vine]

ill let you know if i find anything else

[naive swan]

Thank you

[deep vine]

team work makes the enclosure work?? 😄

[naive swan]

Yep lol

[deep vine]

i wish my printer would work and stop under extruding haha

still have not solved the proble,

[naive swan]

Yeah when I had that it ended up being my gear, took 2 months to solve

[dawn vapor]

You have some layer adhesion issues. How are you printing these? Open frame?

[naive swan]

Enclosed bed slinger

[dawn vapor]

Also so on pi you just installed straight fluid/klipper not octokliper?

[dawn vapor]

So thats the under extrusion he is experiencing?

[deep vine]

mainsail through kiauh

[deep vine]

sometimes poor bed adhesion

mostly under extrusion

[naive swan]

Missed lines looks like

[deep vine]

i can hear somtimes my extruder clicking like its skipping, but its intermitemt, i have checked for clogs and replaced nozzles

also played around with temps and fan speeds

i swear its just this crappy sprite pro extruder

it was doing it even when printing pla with enclosure so cant be chamber temps

i might build a mini stealth burner for it

unless its not related to the extruder skipping

[vocal terrace]

Pla should be enxlosed

[deep vine]

oh yeah?

i tried to once, but the pla carbonized and created a new polymer called pl-a-bs

lol

[vocal terrace]

unenclosed

shouldn't

mistypw

[mild hinge]

dang need to print 8 more snap latches

[deep vine]

Omg wtf

I increased speed by 25% and the under extrusion goes away

@naive swan this doesn’t make sense

[dawn vapor]

@deep vine btw have you calibrated esteps for your extruder at temp your printing?

[deep vine]

acctually i dont think i have

i did it when i put the toolhead on, but i think i did it with PETG

[dawn vapor]

It does change a bit with material

[deep vine]

okay ill do this in the morning

[vocal terrace]

CF GO BRR

Also, I'm FLASHING FIRMWARE WOOOOOOO

VORON ALMSOT BRR

[naive swan]

Looks like overhang parts are the issue then

[naive swan]

@deep vine the new version of "R_Frame_Enclosure Supports Needed.stl" is up. Looks like during the cad clean up i did a delete instead of dissolve for a fillet and hole

[deep vine]

Okay cool, is it only 2 m5 inserts need for the build?

[naive swan]

yes

[deep vine]

M5x6x7 should do right?

[naive swan]

there were some places where it was useful but here was the only place it was needed

[deep vine]

Does the m5 bolt for this need to have rounded head?

[naive swan]

i think M5 Heat Setsx4mm Deep x7mm Wide

thats the one i am using

but M5 Heat Setsx5mm Deep x7mm Widewill work as well

[deep vine]

Or can I get away with standard head

[naive swan]

as in no heatset?

[deep vine]

No

[naive swan]

a nut?

[deep vine]

Just the head of the bolt,

Does it interfere with the lock

If it’s not round head

[deep vine]

Yeah

[naive swan]

It interfaces with the lock

[deep vine]

But can I use a standard bolt?

[naive swan]

no

the lock will not work

[deep vine]

Okay what size is your rounded head

M5x20?

[naive swan]

m5x14 bhcs

[deep vine]

👌

[naive swan]

great

looking really good

[deep vine]

I was thinking about removing the front original 2020 extrusion

So I can see first layer better

[naive swan]

yeah thats a problem

the towers use it to lock down

but solvable

[deep vine]

Because the design you have made is really solid, so I think it will be strong enough with out this extrusion

[deep vine]

Yeah I did wonder about this

What do you think

[vocal terrace]

AINT NOPTHING BUT A HEARTACHE

esun is dog

repent

[deep vine]

Hahaha

[naive swan]

the front tower frame needs an extension that screws in to the m5 hole of the 2040 uprights

it can be done

[deep vine]

But the tensioners is in this line of path

[deep vine]

Exactly

[naive swan]

the red would be the build out and blue is where the bolt needs to thread

[deep vine]

That m5 goes through the tensioner, or it’s very close

[naive swan]

well no

the bottom of the tower frame has 3 points

[deep vine]

Hmm

[naive swan]

one for tensioner lock down - stadium hole
one on the rear outside
and one on the inner front side

[naive swan]

problem is the front

yep

[deep vine]

Could also take it over the side it a t nut

[naive swan]

yep its a problem

[deep vine]

Could add an extra support and use t nut

[naive swan]

yeah that woul iterfere bit wouldnt post install

since you can recess the hole

[deep vine]

Ohh yeah your right, it should work, after the bolt goes in, the tensioner can be built up

[naive swan]

see how the hole recesses here, it just need to recess below the tensioner on the green x

[deep vine]

Yeah I got you now

Okay

I want to test it out

[naive swan]

yep it means a new tower frame but it would work

[deep vine]

They need reprinting anyway

[naive swan]

well let me reload the cad

post fix then

it takes awhile

[deep vine]

I can makes this design change

[naive swan]

agree

[deep vine]

Unless you wana do it

[naive swan]

well i need to do the type v

and the new x mounts

[deep vine]

Okay I’ll start it in the morning

I’ll send u the .f3d

[naive swan]

ok

@deep vine im pushing the latest cad files now

takes awhile

dang it, i was going to add the built in supports first

[deep vine]

I’ll be working from the fusion file tho..

How can we collaborate the changes?

Okay you do you changes the the stl, i will make this modification and when we are done I’ll use your stl and create a new modified version of that which can go in your GitHub if you like

[vocal terrace]

CANBUS INSALLED

[deep vine]

Ooh, SB2209

[vocal terrace]

SB2240

[deep vine]

Was there any issues?

[vocal terrace]

the small ass wries

[deep vine]

Haha I heard about these small wires lol

Did you get the pre crimped ones?

[vocal terrace]

yee

[deep vine]

Surly soldiering to them won’t be an issue?

[vocal terrace]

it wasn't

omnfixos for the win

[deep vine]

Are they some sort of crimp connector?

[vocal terrace]

https://omnifixo.com

[deep vine]

That looks nice

Could do with one of those kits

[vocal terrace]

@naive swan whats the temp sensor for ebb36 command look like?

[deep vine]

Are you going to print abs with this printer?

[vocal terrace]

yee

I already got a fan too

it's cooler than 2209

[deep vine]

How will you mount it?

[vocal terrace]

cover.

[deep vine]

Is that because of the driver?

[deep vine]

Will be interesting to see

[vocal terrace]

its cooler cause driver yes.

https://www.printables.com/model/438309-mellow-sb2040-stealthburner-cover-with-fan

like thi

[deep vine]

Actually the doesn’t look bad

[vocal terrace]

s

lol My temps

I have to get more

[dawn vapor]

@naive swan did you have to do the DFU-Utility error work around for your skr2 when installing klipper?

[vocal terrace]

are u connecting skr 2 threww the u2c?

[dawn vapor]

No not even started yet just trying to figure out what the install process is and trying to plan out for eventually of errors. Maybe overthinking.

[vocal terrace]

u don't connet skr 2 threw that thing fyi its worsed than not

[mild hinge]

tried to print the annex panel clips ...cant slice it in super slicer

https://github.com/Annex-Engineering/Chhogori-K2/blob/master/Release_2_2/STLs/Panel_Mounting/Sides_and_Top_Quick_Release/corner_lock_body_6mm_x6_Rev2.stl

[naive swan]

i dont remember

[naive swan]

[temperature_sensor CANBOARD]
sensor_type: temperature_mcu
sensor_mcu: EBBCan

[naive swan]

when done you can export the f3d and i can associate or i can give you a mod folder

i like the mod folder route better honestly

[vocal terrace]

so. the stupid fan board fried ym can ):

cause it shorted.

but didn't cutdown

[naive swan]

Dang that sucks

[vocal terrace]

yee

1 month no voron....

i'm thinking od I want to go SB2040 for my other guy....

[naive swan]

Im sticking with 2040 for the type V

But I’m putting an ebb36 on the V0

[deep vine]

Yeah sounds good to me

[deep vine]

Ah that sucks!

[vocal terrace]

A 2040 I order3d just in case

[deep vine]

@vocal terrace how did it happen

[vocal terrace]

I'll go can on my e3v2 switchwire soin

It happened cause the boards didn't mate properly and 1 stuck out

[deep vine]

Ohh, so it created a bad connection and sent to much current

[vocal terrace]

Yee shorted

[deep vine]

But what did it short circuit on?

The metal is not touching anything

[vocal terrace]

Idk what shorted on but pins were sitting flat then the cpu went brrr.

Like the way they sat.

Fans and everything wete wired correctly

[deep vine]

Tbh I don’t think that would have fried the board, unless the pins had bad connection

[vocal terrace]

Have u seen the solder job they did.

[deep vine]

i cant tell from the pictures

[deep vine]

@naive swan the updated right tension tower is also missing the brass insert for the panel mount, sorry i just realised

[deep vine]

Sexy!!!

[deep vine]

And clears with tensioner at full tension

[deep vine]

completed, ill print and test new files

[deep vine]

Ooh, should I build 4x4 version?

[naive swan]

lol go for it

i like the idea

[sullen heath]

It will be really sick a mercury awd, I’m waiting the cad release to tri myself, but since I’m a cad noob, it will be really nice if someone do it before lol

[deep vine]

the CAD file is there.

https://github.com/Vprince099/ZANDVE/tree/main/Type-Z/CAD

[sullen heath]

Sorry, I was meaning the 1.1 cad, but probably since what I think I need to have is only the position of the pulley, I can try

[naive swan]

Added built in supports

[naive swan]

all parts are officially print as loaded now

[naive swan]

it works well and i am happy with it

[mild hinge]

@naive swan cool

[naive swan]

Biggest print so far

[mild hinge]

nice

Biggest problem I got is I have to watch this roll of filament ..has a dam tangle in the roll

[naive swan]

oh thats right

[mild hinge]

have to keep untangle it

[naive swan]

you could unroll some of it

[mild hinge]

I did

[naive swan]

until it goes away?

[mild hinge]

not sure how far it goes

unroll the whole roll while it printing

[naive swan]

well when not printing lol

who big is the print?

[mild hinge]

37% done

trying to print voron door hinges

no success yet

door handles printed awesome

Im about ready to give up on these door hinges and look for something different

[mild hinge]

@naive swan https://www.printables.com/en/model/282965-hinge-pin

[naive swan]

nice

i ordered metal rods though

[mild hinge]

ahhh ok

might give them a try

[naive swan]

Type V is Done

https://github.com/Vprince099/ZANDVE/tree/main/Type-V

[vocal terrace]

So no can 2.4 ): together

[naive swan]

not good

[vocal terrace]

?

[naive swan]

can problems?

[vocal terrace]

the one shorted last night.

cause stupid fan board

[naive swan]

ok

i knew that

[vocal terrace]

pinout was fine

[naive swan]

whats the problem now?

[vocal terrace]

so put together wwith Hartk 2 board

[naive swan]

eww

[vocal terrace]

I'll get a board in few weeks

well prob 1.5 weeks

[naive swan]

Glass smooth

hopefully I can get all files in tomorrow https://github.com/Vprince099/ZANDVE/tree/main/Type-V

[vocal terrace]

ok fuirst QGL time

[deep vine]

I ordered tap cnc :0

[vocal terrace]

The peps that made that aren't actually a fan of it lol

[vocal terrace]

People don't like cause MGN7

@naive swan dont get cnc tap

the rail even when tbey sent to steve was bad

[vocal terrace]

galileo V2 steve has oooo

[shell wolf]

What can board was it?

[vocal terrace]

2240

[shell wolf]

do you need a faster replacement?

[vocal terrace]

wdym?

Are u tryna sell me ur?

[shell wolf]

yeah I have one I could send you if you needed one faster than Ali shipping

[vocal terrace]

nah I setup my hartk 2prt board

ty for offer

I get 1.5 weeks ish with ali

[vocal terrace]

betcha i'd pay 2x shipping cost lol its fucked

[deep vine]

What’s wrong with that?

[deep vine]

What improvements does v2 have?

[naive swan]

looking good

[dawn vapor]

Is that black also esun abs?

[naive swan]

looks like it

[dawn vapor]

Also thats quite the carrot feeder tower. Have you had that working?

[vocal terrace]

tradrack better

[mild hinge]

alot of filament

but looks good

[dawn vapor]

What part is that for?

And have you had any warping issues on your Stealthburner?

[naive swan]

for my laser, i need a lift for the rotary tool

[dawn vapor]

Was reading through issues over on the voron hub

[naive swan]

not since i switched to ASA

[dawn vapor]

As in the material on the Stealthburner. What asa brand are you using?

[naive swan]

polylite

[mild hinge]

polylite ASA is all I use for printer parts

[mild hinge]

out of red asa

thought i had another roll ...abs red a different color of red

ugggg

[vocal terrace]

https://github.com/Annex-Engineering/Annex-Engineering_User_Mods/tree/main/Printers/All_Printers/annex_dev-Panel_2020_Clips_and_Hinges

FUCK THOSE SUCKED TO FIND

[mild hinge]

sucks I have to order some more red asa

[naive swan]

Which files?

[mild hinge]

I mis-read the v style files that you are going to upload

hopefully I can get all files in tomorrow https://github.com/Vprince099/ZANDVE/tree/main/Type-V
GitHub

the type-V version

sorry for re-posting link

[naive swan]

Im working on it

[mild hinge]

its all good

take your time

I just ran out of red asa

[naive swan]

I just have to compare changes

[mild hinge]

suck thought i had one more roll

gotcha

[naive swan]

That sucks

[mild hinge]

Yea

[deep vine]

Yeah it works, I’ve printed t couple of small prints with it, but mainly used for swapping out fillaments. I’m suprised actually because it works better that I expected

[naive swan]

After multiple iterations, my side project is done

All because of the honey comb

[mild hinge]

Very cool

[deep vine]

Got my new build surface, hopefully helps with adhesion

[deep vine]

Nice!! That looks good, you’ve just build another axis for your laser

[naive swan]

well i had it but, i needed to make the raiser since i added an enclosure

[naive swan]

i hope it works better for you

[dawn vapor]

How do you like that xtool? Are you able to effectively and cleanly cut 1/4 acrylic?

[deep vine]

Oh cool, is the enclosure mainly because of fumes, Send a picture of something you have laser etched

[naive swan]

its only 10w so i dont think it can, as far as clear is concerned, i got it for wood stuff mostly. this will be the first glass project. The Xtool seems ok but its pretty expensive, in hindsight i would just build my own.

so far i am about 1k in on it

[naive swan]

right after i finished the laser project, i built a V0, converted a E5+, designed an enclosure, built it, and now i am working on my current project plan. Before then i had just finished up with cyrpto mining....and now i need to start back up(since its profitable again)

[vocal terrace]

canbus adapter for octopus soon hehehe

[mild hinge]

@naive swan engraving is pretty neat

[vocal terrace]

@naive swan I thank u for canbus adapter idea

now U2C will be switchwires

[mild hinge]

I ran canbus direct too the octopus pro board

[naive swan]

yeah, im still surprised i can engrave on glass using black tempura paint to transfer a white burn in

[mild hinge]

Nice

Yea I was looking at creality laser but decided to look into that later. But what I really was interested crystal engraving

[naive swan]

i may be wrong but that may be a job for infared laser engraving

[mild hinge]

Yep

That's correct

[naive swan]

i will just give this advice, get the laser that does exactly what you want. dont plan on upgrades at all

its a money sink

[mild hinge]

I have decided not to mess with laser at the end

Have enough tied up in 3d printers

[naive swan]

i love it but in hindsight i would have built my own using what i know about 3d printers....one day i will make something badass

using something like this https://www.xtool.com/products/40w-laser-module-for-d1-pro?currency=USD&variant=43711380816111&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google Shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjwla-hBhD7ARIsAM9tQKsFE7GEB-Fr55ms9lFLcD7hg-pIYE4lC6v46_hZdmI6Q55GDy87Yy4aAl0dEALw_wcB

[deep vine]

that a piece of kit im scared to use haha, i know you have to be really carful with lasers.

[naive swan]

lol yeah, eye protection is a must

[deep vine]

@naive swan also the mining

is it easy to do?

more to the point, is it even worth it?

can i mine, from the raspberry pi while at the same time as running klipper? 😉

[naive swan]

if you have 20-30k of GPUs sure, im well over 2x my investment at least

is it for everyone no, lots of investment and time

you have to maintain the cards

you have to monitor the servers(machines running the software)

easily a time commitment of 10-20hrs per week

[naive swan]

not sure

[deep vine]

well not Going to lie, but from that, it doesn't sound appealing to me.

mabey ill just run a 3D farm instead haha

[naive swan]

yep

[mild hinge]

40watt laser would be awesome

[naive swan]

problem is you can go co2 for 2-3k

[mild hinge]

yea

got some polymaker asa red

bought some froma buddy instead of order it ...2 rolls to get me started

[naive swan]

very nice

[mild hinge]

yep agree

[naive swan]

all my local contacts come to me for parts and filament....

[vocal terrace]

Lol

[mild hinge]

nice

[naive swan]

i need to find some meet ups or something

[vocal terrace]

My friend does petg and pla for a bunch of peps

Then me his abs

[mild hinge]

I like ASA better

[naive swan]

yeah i have become the ABS ASA guy now

[vocal terrace]

Then u don't like as much profit

More expensive filament

[naive swan]

also tpu

[mild hinge]

yea no proffit here just hobby

[vocal terrace]

As college student I gotta worry on that cost

[mild hinge]

yea im past college years

[naive swan]

if someone asks me for ASA i luagh and tell them how much it costs then they go ABS is fine

[naive swan]

by like 20 years for me

well close

[vocal terrace]

I like sparkles

[mild hinge]

same

[vocal terrace]

And turtles

[mild hinge]

I saw some new sparkle red asa

[vocal terrace]

Sparta 3d is near me

2 day recieved

Imma start getting his Asa prob instead of abs+

[mild hinge]

kb3d is about 3 hours from me

think II'll wait on the type- v before printing

[naive swan]

im working on it....damn escalation has me swamped right now

[mild hinge]

it can be when ever you get around too it

patient is always good

[naive swan]

ok i give up.....i didnt even know why i am fixing this....ok going to grab a bite, see if anyone responds and work on the type-V upload

[naive swan]

question, should i drop the fillets for chamfers on this one? I am getting curling on the 2mm fillets.

Chamfers seem to be more Voron style

[mild hinge]

Dinner time does sound good

[mild hinge]

local computer store selling the xtool now

[naive swan]

@mild hinge the files are up

Type V is loaded https://github.com/Vprince099/ZANDVE

[deep vine]

Has anyone tested any cf-asa

[shell wolf]

Type V is dual z and type Z is hydra? Or

[dawn vapor]

Nope not yet

Vengeful is making a trident mod i believe

Down the road I believe

[naive swan]

Type V v1 will be trident, Type Z v1 will be hydra

Just waiting on the parts to start the test fit

Hydra will be quick

Trident requires some mods

Both v0 versions are as stock as possible, to keep cost down

[mild hinge]

I'm building a trident and a voron 2.4r2

[dawn vapor]

Do you happen to have a pic of the type z, specifically the enclosure deck? Printing out the parts that go on the rails and was curious on fitment and how to secure the panel? Also the din rail middle support does that attach to something?

[naive swan]

the panel is sandwiched

din rail middle support works like a standoff between the panel and the din rail

there is 8 parts

each has clips the are screwed into heat sets

[dawn vapor]

Ok i think i missed the heat-set slots when i was slicing the files.

And im at work while its printing or else would have downloaded cad and looked. lol

[naive swan]

ok

i still need to load all the hardware

[twilit edge]

Do you have two ender 5 pluses that you are enclosing or are you going to swap Z types on the one build?

[naive swan]

i have 2

just waiting on parts now

i have the rails, mcu, can, pi, most of the screws, sb parts, fans and extrusions

just waiting on bed, heater, hydra kit, bearings

need to inventory screws soon

[dawn vapor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/VORONDesign/comments/12czu23/warning_violent_and_graphic_content/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

So didnt know if you did anything for this but i found a good tach watch macro and config that will stop hot end heating if hot end fan fails

https://ellis3dp.com/Print-Tuning-Guide/articles/useful_macros/hotend_fan_monitoring.html

For all the work you’ve done might be worthwhile if you dont have a safety for the hot end

[vocal terrace]

I needa add RPM again for thuis....

[dawn vapor]

Hadnt even thought of it till that reddit post

Ive had hot end fan failures before but never on an all printed setup

[vocal terrace]

rapido gang

also those motors look bald

I like my LDO

@naive swan https://www.fabreeko.com/products/ldo-42sth48-2804-ac-ah-ahs80-super-power-motors-by-ldo?variant=43913432858879\

pog motors

[dawn vapor]

The motors on the reddit post? Yeah those do look way small.

[vocal terrace]

Nah they look like creality type motors

Idk maybe moons

[naive swan]

It’s definitely worth checking. I would say swapping out the fan preventively but fans fail randomly

[naive swan]

Are these 48v?

Looks like my tracking number has been created

[dawn vapor]

Seems like simple implementation by just adding a three wire fan and adding an endstop pin. Id hate to come back to a melted Stealthburner lol

[naive swan]

Are there 4010 24v 3wire fans

[naive swan]

This is also why you always have 2-3 backups of the toolhead

[dawn vapor]

https://www.fabreeko.com/products/4010-axial-fan-by-honeybadger?_pos=5&_sid=4b81f262e&_ss=r

[dawn vapor]

I have some. Still a pain in the ass to dig out a hot end.

[naive swan]

That’s what my smd reflow is for

[dawn vapor]

Smd reflow?

[mild hinge]

I have all honey badger fans like them alot

[naive swan]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/5238?gclid=Cj0KCQjw27mhBhC9ARIsAIFsETFccSqh4GcVpjqrw-VHNh7Yk5mQ1l6UQWj7oPmq26CXNaqP6yQ6iL8aApSHEALw_wcB

[vocal terrace]

Mo

No

[naive swan]

I want lead screw steppers

[vocal terrace]

Ur dumb

[naive swan]

Hey

[vocal terrace]

U get bad leas screw then it's new motor too

[naive swan]

They are simple

[vocal terrace]

Also u can get rubber coupler

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqp613O

[naive swan]

You can solve that on the nut side

[vocal terrace]

Ordering alot more rails from em lol

[vocal terrace]

Coupler ans rubber wne are both solutions that u want on both

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtPiYB6

5x8

[naive swan]

I May be forced to order lead screws

[dawn vapor]

Is the ender 5 plus stock power inlet fused?

[vocal terrace]

Send photo of urs

[naive swan]

one sec

[vocal terrace]

May have revisions but Ik mine is

[naive swan]

i dont think so'

not fused

[dawn vapor]

Not at home so cant check. Just shopping lol

[molten musk]

Mine was...

[naive swan]

My bad it is

@dawn vapor you may want a better switch https://a.co/d/96PuxPc

wish i had gone for a 2 pack since i need to order another one now

3$ mistake

[vocal terrace]

Ur trending on Twitter rn my canceling finally work

[naive swan]

what are you talking about?

[deep vine]

Should I open the enclosure or risk it not Notting??!!

[naive swan]

hmm

i say fix it

[vocal terrace]

Ur e3 looks like crap switht those wires lol

Mind chernobly vid

[naive swan]

lol ok

wrong Vegeta

thats a mincraft mod

[deep vine]

haha yes your right,

i will get around to it lol

[naive swan]

its a sprite extruder

could be way worse

Queue my abandoned E3

[deep vine]

did you say can bus sprite?

[naive swan]

lol why?

[vocal terrace]

im gonna go cw2 and dragon soon prob

[deep vine]

what is the overtrue fillament like

[deep vine]

less conductors lol

[vocal terrace]

dogwater

[deep vine]

galileo 2??

[naive swan]

its good pla

[vocal terrace]

galile on my v2.4

then just switchwire

[deep vine]

its cheaper than esun, i was wondering if it matched up

[vocal terrace]

im ordering 4 spools of asa soon. my friend tryna get 20spoiols

[deep vine]

when does it come ou

out

[naive swan]

its already very groomed with the umbilical

[vocal terrace]

idk it was teased only

[deep vine]

what do you mean

[deep vine]

i seen lol

[vocal terrace]

u see deez?

[deep vine]

z wobbz

[naive swan]

in my opinion on standard pla its better price/kg since i have seen no issues with and quality is =

[deep vine]

nutz

[vocal terrace]

shit PLA is pla

[deep vine]

ahh okay, handy to know

[naive swan]

i dont see the benefit unless you want a fulltime adxl

[vocal terrace]

they aren't even good adxl results

[naive swan]

the point is the pla is the same

[vocal terrace]

exactly what I said

[deep vine]

steve showed the same

youtubes

[naive swan]

true because its a bed slinger right?

[vocal terrace]

dutc told me

[deep vine]

oh

[vocal terrace]

no gargamnel

[naive swan]

ah the foremost expert has spoken on the subject

[vocal terrace]

gargamel can wizard

[dawn vapor]

Yep got that one off your BoM

[vocal terrace]

im jeeopin stock

[naive swan]

i usually just talk to can bus depot on Voron

they have good info

[vocal terrace]

I do for setup

[naive swan]

lots of pins and what not

[vocal terrace]

but gargamel knows alot too

esotrerical is good

[naive swan]

i think there are many sources now, few months ago not so much

[vocal terrace]

yea I got my fysetc bed in 7 days for friend

I love ali

[naive swan]

still waiting on my atp5 bed

[vocal terrace]

L

I have faster speeds from ali then hector

[naive swan]

Hector has been great, if it wasnt for the demand on parts he would be my #1 vendor hands down

[naive swan]

i need to work on this more

[vocal terrace]

send link

I can help

if u give me dragon balls

[naive swan]

...

[dawn vapor]

Burgo how much coffee do you drink?

[vocal terrace]

um. second cup of day rn

I'm getting more youmetong rails hehehe

[naive swan]

link

[vocal terrace]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001463833841.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.21cb38daoE6MQj&mp=1

[naive swan]

added

[vocal terrace]

specify medium pretension

[dawn vapor]

The m5 heat-set inserts are M5 x4x7? Thats M5 bolt/screw 7diam 4 deep?

Id be more inclined to get the kb3d

[naive swan]

just make sure they 3d printing heat inserts

they have one side recessed

[mild hinge]

https://3dmakerparts.com/products/m3-threaded-insert-brass-w-black-finish-100-pack

i just ordered more of this

[naive swan]

i wish i could get a vendor that does 1000 but dang, black is pretty cool

[mild hinge]

yea I ordered 300

[dawn vapor]

You can heat up the brass for an extended period of time and turn it greenish tint at home.

[mild hinge]

yea but I like the black matches the voron build

[dawn vapor]

Sharpie

[mild hinge]

yea if want to sit and paint them but I don't

[dawn vapor]

Im messing with you lol that is a very cool deal you got though.

[mild hinge]

its all good I like advice for sure

[dawn vapor]

Didnt even think to look if they made those any different color

[mild hinge]

still building voron 2.4

[mild hinge]

@naive swan you get the beacon installed on the SB ?

[dawn vapor]

He’s had it on there for a bit now

[vocal terrace]

@naive swan I'm making a E5 pro size now....

I'll have my 2.4 now I want SPEED

[naive swan]

Yep, I loaded the files on my GitHub

[naive swan]

That’s interesting, did you mess up the extrusions?

[vocal terrace]

now I want speed

hence small

[naive swan]

Cheaper too

Looks like I’m not getting an atp5 now, my bed was damaged

Getting mic6 probably

[mild hinge]

I have a mic 6

[vocal terrace]

inn shi[ppuin

[naive swan]

Nah the one held for my order ended having something wrong with it

[vocal terrace]

F

[naive swan]

It was mic6 or wait a long time

[vocal terrace]

u get deal?

[naive swan]

Oh well I was kinda looking forward to mic6

Atp5

I never pull the build plate anyway

[vocal terrace]

im gonna get fysetc now

[naive swan]

It’s too big for that

[vocal terrace]

not rn rn but I may needfa cut down linear rails too

my 500mm hydra

[naive swan]

That’s big

How?

[vocal terrace]

its the normal rail size for E5+

also those LDO motors are gonna rock

[naive swan]

Oh yeah

Lol

I got confused

Lol I have 6 of them

[vocal terrace]

I'm ordering 12 linear rails rn

My X and y for voron and other is getting replaced

also my e3v2

[naive swan]

I need to do this, even if I don’t go switchwire

[vocal terrace]

youmetong u should try

they take a bit tohugh cause small

that or CNa rails and u ask for west3d pretension

or through west3d

[naive swan]

Yeah, let me see what e3 options are out there, I need to go sprite and dual z

[vocal terrace]

why shrite

[naive swan]

Oh my vendor of choice is cheap

I have a sprite

[vocal terrace]

youmetong is pog

[naive swan]

I know

It’s a good option

I just need to research or create my own options

[vocal terrace]

youmetong saved my life

[dawn vapor]

Vengeful, do you have a nozzle brush and purge bucket on the type z?

[naive swan]

I do not, it is possible though. Should just be able to mimic a trident mod

[raven widget]

@naive swan do you have Fly 36 on type Z ?

[naive swan]

Ebb36

[raven widget]

yeah i mean that, but how you solved ,cable chain holder ? you just edit it and make space for PCB and fan ?

[naive swan]

Im using a mod

One sec

[naive swan]

https://www.printables.com/model/320325-btt-ebb36-canbus-voron-cw2-mount-moons-pancake-mot/comments#preview-comment

then i use this to mount a fan on top using 20mm standoffs

[raven widget]

thx

[naive swan]

np

[raven widget]

today I want make function test 🙂

have you try CAN bus without twisted cable ?

[naive swan]

never with out a twisted pair

[mild hinge]

My wires are twisted too

[raven widget]

Ouu , CAN bus is more sensitive than RS485 , or RS232

no more than 2cm without twist 😄

[naive swan]

yep, you will get random dropouts too, only way too avoid it is to probably shield it as well

[raven widget]

I was expecting it is used in car without twist

[naive swan]

hmm not sure if they shild it

shield

[dawn vapor]

On bearing stacks i see shims on top and bottom. No shims on toothed idler?

[vocal terrace]

none like basically all printers

[dawn vapor]

Also noticed the din rails in type z cad inside backpack don’t go all the way across. Not sure if that was intentional.

Good morning Burgo

[vocal terrace]

afternoon BEACHHH

@shell wolf u using canbus on ur machines iwth pis?

[naive swan]

That was a miss

[dawn vapor]

Are these 50mm?

Or 45?

[vocal terrace]

is this mobile?

[dawn vapor]

Yes

[vocal terrace]

ill get for u. is it 45 and 50 in bom?

@naive swan bom should have seperate file in github. Look at how VZbot does their bom

@dawn vapor

[naive swan]

Bearing stacks are pins

Im away from home to check

[vocal terrace]

its screws dw

[naive swan]

Each rear stepper has 4 m5 shcs 50mm I think

It’s in the BOM

Worksheet tab breaks it down

[vocal terrace]

noice If u wwant I can help with bom

[naive swan]

Build the printer and sure

[vocal terrace]

kekw

no

But I know god sources

godo

good

[naive swan]

Yeah Google fu got it

I need independent verification right now

[dawn vapor]

@naive swan damn you think of everything. Didnt notice the tabs. That is awesome

[shell wolf]

Yes

[vocal terrace]

u see preempt supposed to help with timer too ckloe

need 64 bit pi

[naive swan]

@vocal terrace when i get back from church i will make a back up and give you edit access to the Bom

[mild hinge]

I have 5 PI 4's

[vocal terrace]

if u do canbus then def download 64 bit

[mild hinge]

they are on 64bit

with can bus

3 for printers 1 for pihole and 1 for home automation

all have ssd drives

[naive swan]

What is 64bit?

[mild hinge]

klipper

[vocal terrace]

the cpu

[mild hinge]

and cpu

pi 4's out of stock at local store

[naive swan]

I think my le potato is 64bit

[vocal terrace]

prob not its cheap

[mild hinge]

nice

[vocal terrace]

oh iot is

wtf

DAMN thats suprising

[naive swan]

Raspbian was a b to get on it because of it

[mild hinge]

I need oone more monitor

[vocal terrace]

I do armbian

[mild hinge]

dual screens not enough

[naive swan]

I have not really had a use case for Pi’s as a pc yet

[mild hinge]

they are for 3 printers

and pihole dns and home automation

[naive swan]

On my printers I am tempted to just go for a nuc

[mild hinge]

I need a mount for 104-GT2 thermistor x1 to use for chamber temp

[vocal terrace]

bruh don't

[mild hinge]

https://www.fabreeko.com/products/bondtech®-heatlink™-300-c-thermistor?_pos=2&_psq=thermiostor &_ss=e&_v=1.0

anybody have a frame mounts

[vocal terrace]

I'm team ORGANGE PI 3 LTS

[vocal terrace]

why so overkill

I have a 2 dollar one for chamber

[mild hinge]

it came with the kit

[naive swan]

I can get PCs like those for 100 or less though

[mild hinge]

https://www.fabreeko.com/collections/zero-g/products/mercury-one-kit?variant=42031744614655\

[vocal terrace]

I thinbk just le dogshit

[mild hinge]

I haventt found a mount for it

[naive swan]

I get my shipment on the 11th

[vocal terrace]

i get pcb klicky then

and new bed mount

for my idk wtf it is gonna be called or my switchwire pcb klicky.

[naive swan]

I saw Nero talking about cnc tap

[vocal terrace]

im a WP simp either way

[vocal terrace]

its not good

[naive swan]

They messed up

[vocal terrace]

yea I said this multiple days ago.

[naive swan]

Should have been mgn9

I know

[vocal terrace]

even fermiolabs is better peps said

[naive swan]

I didnt catch why

[mild hinge]

me printing LCd mount voron right now

[vocal terrace]

me fixing my gantry

[mild hinge]

i just taped the thermistor to the frame

[vocal terrace]

bad

bad

bad

bad

bad

bad

[naive swan]

Hopefully when I am ready somebody has an mgn9 version

[vocal terrace]

thats a Z thermal adjust not chamber one then

[mild hinge]

yes I know

[vocal terrace]

just go printed they are adding R7 soon

[naive swan]

Probably but I would like a metal mount

I was hoping it would get resolved

[mild hinge]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3787406/files

soemthing like this might work

[vocal terrace]

ah so my rapido fried my octopus pro mosfet... Time to swap it to bed heat

[mild hinge]

https://www.printables.com/model/274464-enclosure-thermistor-bracket-for-2020-extrusions

found one

[vocal terrace]

these speedy motors home without feeling any hotter at 1.5A lol

[mild hinge]

new LDO motors ?

[vocal terrace]

no the old version

[naive swan]

I need z rods

[vocal terrace]

wdym rods

[naive swan]

I need them to match

[vocal terrace]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002054258631.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.19.73c8482cGxfEPI&algo_pvid=f5cb5132-39b3-4e49-842c-0debc43e67dd&algo_exp_id=f5cb5132-39b3-4e49-842c-0debc43e67dd-9&pdp_npi=3%40dis!CAD!22.51!21.61!!!!!%40212240a316809126708956034d0711!12000018573216804!sea!CA!3516952071&curPageLogUid=332cuCtXq9nM

These are hectors

[naive swan]

I need 6

[vocal terrace]

500 I believe is ok but not many

its wrong one nvm

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002055834257.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.33.73c8482cGxfEPI&algo_pvid=f5cb5132-39b3-4e49-842c-0debc43e67dd&algo_exp_id=f5cb5132-39b3-4e49-842c-0debc43e67dd-16&pdp_npi=3%40dis!CAD!18.05!16.42!!!!!%40212240a316809126708956034d0711!12000018580069660!sea!CA!3516952071&curPageLogUid=VVEl0NfmdC56

Get 8mm 500

[naive swan]

Everytime I open links it thinks I am in Germany

[vocal terrace]

lol not canad

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003472594807.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_allProduct.8148356.29.412910f5EPIi9h&pdp_npi=2%40dis!CAD!C%24 18.65!C%24 17.16!!!!!%402103231116809128051917654e8db9!12000025942993153!sh the 500mm works

[naive swan]

All of them are tr8x8

In the 500 size

[vocal terrace]

2mm pitch

[vocal terrace]

yes. thats the size u want

yea same spec as the trident ones

[naive swan]

Oh so they are tr2x8

[vocal terrace]

yes...

pog my octopus didn't fry

switchin to bed input

[dawn vapor]

Are the 500mm usable on the 5+

[vocal terrace]

yes

500mm linear rails for that reason

[naive swan]

I have 500mm lead screw steppers and they clear fine on the stock mounts

[naive swan]

@vocal terrace you have access now

[vocal terrace]

pog

[naive swan]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-gif-21978827

[dawn vapor]

How was church

[vocal terrace]

Ewww

Screw church embrace naruto and sasuke kissing

I have too many f695 bearings

[naive swan]

good...had to go twice, tomorrow is the long one though

[vocal terrace]

I rn have 100 dollars worth

[naive swan]

where you get em

[vocal terrace]

I have 40 raindew ones and about 20 fushi here

My 2.4 is fushi rn

Raindeq are 2x fushi price but last longer

[vocal terrace]

More expensive I put in bom

I also am almost all youmetong rails now

My Z for my 2.4 is robotdigg black zo. My yydra bed is gonna be robotdigg z1 black

[naive swan]

ok

taxes are done...took 2 hrs this time

[vocal terrace]

My why pile

[naive swan]

cheap belts?

[vocal terrace]

12mm gt2 6mm (needa get 9mm soon) and then rails

[vocal terrace]

No that's 60 dollars of belts

[naive swan]

shit

i need a gates source that will sell at decent prices in bulk

[vocal terrace]

I have like 16m of just shit belt

[vocal terrace]

Bruh. I literally put it on ur link

[naive swan]

like 100M=

[vocal terrace]

Why that much

[naive swan]

becuase i can

i guess i will get 12 meter

[vocal terrace]

U can msg sellers too

[naive swan]

true

2.88/M on 12M

[vocal terrace]

Lol

[naive swan]

2.88/M on 6M

[vocal terrace]

I would get 9mm belts rn but imma wait cause have this 6mm and needa get 4 super power soon. Which is gonna be like 180 in motors prob

[naive swan]

2.88/M on 3M

wtf

no bulk pricing at all

[vocal terrace]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0dqCvA

I'm gonna get this prov

[vocal terrace]

Why I said mag

[naive swan]

nice i am tempted to go 9mm belt

[vocal terrace]

Also u should get gt3 prob

Lol

[vocal terrace]

If u are then we should both work on what I wanna do

[naive swan]

where do i get gt3

[vocal terrace]

It will be scalable

[vocal terrace]

Wait for hector

C$ 12.71 | POWGE GT2 LL-2GT RF 2GT Open Synchronous Timing belt width 6/9/10/12/15mm Rubber Low dust low vibration VORON gates 3D printer
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrzcY20

If u wanna get alot

[naive swan]

i mean if i could get bulk gt3 i might sell it on my amazon shop

[vocal terrace]

Lol

[naive swan]

bulk link is 5$/M on 10M

thats a bad price

[vocal terrace]

Yea idk cause the 10% off

Trianglelabs I went with. I have some from powge

They have same stuff so I trust ir

[dawn vapor]

https://shop.app/p/7053433307304

Is that a bad price/bad belt?

[naive swan]

trinangle labs is 2.88$/M on 12M

[vocal terrace]

Look at American one

[vocal terrace]

Yea triangle better

[naive swan]

problem is i will use that amount on just my current builds

[vocal terrace]

Same stuff

[vocal terrace]

How 12M

Oh 2 yeah...

Yeah so I got my belts form ali in literally 1 week 3 days

[naive swan]

i would still need to rebelt my V0s and an ender SW and my V2.4 project will need it as well

[vocal terrace]

Needa finish designing AWD

[naive swan]

also i would need back ups

[vocal terrace]

Don't do 2.4 I regret it

Go vzbot or even trident

Trident speeds seem faster

[vocal terrace]

What V0 kit....

[naive swan]

its $5/M so best price so far is https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832667244886.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.54.493e1802he1wAH&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US at $2.88/M

[vocal terrace]

C$ 8.46 | POWGE GT 3GT Open synchronous Timing belt width 6/9/15mm 3GT-6/3GT-9/3GT-15 Rubber Small Backlash Accuracy Positioning 3GT Belt
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKdpdys

If only for the gates not powge belts

[naive swan]

uh the type V will be a trident

[vocal terrace]

Lol.

Then vzbot

I'm basically just gonna do vzbot xy. But e5 pro size.

[naive swan]

one already built(needing the v0.2 upgrade) and 1 unbuilt V0.2

[vocal terrace]

V0.2 which?

Just get 12M of gates

[naive swan]

i was going to do a 250 v2.4 or micron 180

[dawn vapor]

You two are making me go broke

But have lots of stuff

[vocal terrace]

Micron not bad

I like good but cheap

But 1 speed demon want

[naive swan]

the unbuilt is a Frankenstein(so many parts from upgrades) and the v0.1 is a completely swapped and upgraded Siboor

the unbuilt will be sold

[vocal terrace]

Yea those are good gates

[naive swan]

in for a penny....i guess

[vocal terrace]

I'm more or less just wanting good printers.

Beacon is something I'll proh never go

[naive swan]

then buy a bamboo

[vocal terrace]

Tap is cool but I'm not gonna do any other machines

Klicky is the way

[vocal terrace]

I want faster

Cpap, Goliath, AWD

[naive swan]

beacon is only good for big beds, my take at this time

[vocal terrace]

Not even.

Cause doesn't probe aftual surface

[naive swan]

i want a 250 v2.4 will be tap

[vocal terrace]

Klicky is good.

[vocal terrace]

Straight up I don't like mine that much. I'm not auperrr voron anymore

[naive swan]

yeah but it takes for ever to do that especially on a 350+

[vocal terrace]

Like I like my printer yes. It's my fastest so far.

[vocal terrace]

With tap I feel comfortable enough to not needa bed mesh

But my voron is over 2k with many upgrades but like other machines can do same for that prife

Price

[naive swan]

on fixed gantry its ok to go beacon

[vocal terrace]

2.4 is too

Bruh f er

I can't say that...

[naive swan]

its flying gantry

[vocal terrace]

Realized after u weren't tap

[naive swan]

oh that frankenstien v0.2 might become a crucible but thats more of a because i can option lol

[vocal terrace]

U can do tap on v0 fyi

Or micron

Or saladfork