[P5R PC] Royal Restoration Project (SPOILERS)

[viral sail]

how can we word it without english speakers thinking of a psych ward

[worthy mist]

"Kakekomi-dera" literally means "a temple you rush to," but in modern Japanese it’s a metaphor for a place or service people turn to when they’re in trouble and have nowhere else to go. It’s not a physical shelter; it’s more like the place everyone turns to, a last resort, a go-to place for help, a lifeline, or a safe place to ask for help...depending on context.

[viral sail]

I know a few things are considered "shelters" when translated to english

like for mental health facilities

it translates to shelter

[worthy mist]

I have reviewed the contents of both files.
The contents is undoubtedly identical, but there are occasional instances of "machine translation like" phrasing. While it's not completely obvious MT, unnaturalness stemming fron literal translations is visible in places.
However, there are no issues such as completely misaligned meanings, so it seems unnecessary to re-translate.

[golden frost]

whew

ty

prob just some cleanup for unnatural wording, then?

[worthy mist]

That's right. The situation conveyed by the dialogue is exactly the same.

[golden frost]

ty again

[viral sail]

I can work on that if you guys want

also about 1/3rd done that fine I got sent already (got distracted ngl)

@worthy mist little confused on this since im getting opposite meanings here

damn clipboard

[golden frost]

is that for confidant party still

[worthy mist]

That's a nuance conversion.
A literal translation would sound stiff, so I chose wording that considers Takemi's personality and connects with the previous line.

[golden frost]

i would guess shes contradicting something she said earlier in the convo, from the "actually" and the jp text ending in nai ka
in which case yeah deepl would not have the context for that one

[viral sail]

got it

also the fortunate connection part doesnt overly make sense to me

what is the fortunate connection

deepl gave good match instead not sure which works better bc idk the context

[worthy mist]

“fortunate connection” refers to a good connection in a fortune-telling sense.

[runic bough]

assumed codeless/remix specific

[slow wren]

we literally had a whole conversation yesterday on why not to do this

[silk jacinth]

[vital harbor]

[golden frost]

id say "fortuitous" sounds more woo-woo-y than just "fortunate," "fortunate connection" just sounds kinda over-formal

also now that im seeing this in context, imo i dont think english iwai would phrase it that way though ive not yet thought of something that "sounds" like him

im trying to remember if kawakami in the localization ever transitions from jonkler's last name to his first, sometimes persona localizations change stuff like that

not gonna go through the whole thing right now, just glancing at the start of it

"prevail" isnt rly used in this way, "called upon" would be more natural but probably lose nuance if theres supposed to be an implied effort on sojiros part

[slow wren]

I thought this scene was localized, was it not? Or does it need to be polished

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vsKfUs9PmKM

[golden frost]

wait yeah i have an english ver in my dump
what were we doing again? just confirming that that one doesnt have any glaring mistakes?

[slow wren]

This is why we need to make a spreadsheet to keep track of things

[vital harbor]

I couldn't find an English version in my dump

oh now I feel bad 😭

[slow wren]

About this scene:

1. it seems like it should only happen if you completed all their confidants.
2. I'm not sure if it would be exclusive to the Royal ending, like it could also happen if you get the original ending without the third semester

[golden frost]

i just made one, in the sense that i made the header and stuck one(1) scene in it

should i give you guys specifically access or just make it anyone can edit
i dont think theres anyone whod care to vandalize it

[silk jacinth]

I thought there was a ghost standing behind them in the bg for a sec

[golden frost]

heres the one i have

[slow wren]

I think make it anyone can view but invite people to edit

[golden frost]

i was prob gonna have it be anyone can view anyway

[golden frost]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11Jn7PcZ_szbaYMrV6OXp_cU9qSZpV4K3HkHr6pvgLHs/edit?usp=sharing too busy to add scenes rn, just request edit access

[edgy needle]

If Royal still has it, it would be really funny if you guys reinstated the unused mementos mission about a kid committing video game piracy

[slow wren]

I think the only ones that work are Akechi's politician and Futaba's otaku

I'm using DeepL as an extra reference and lol (the original was "Okama bar")

[viral sail]

Ahh okay

[viral sail]

Could probably find the files

[viral sail]

It’s like how -chan gets turned into homo by DeepL

[viral sail]

This will be hella useful

[golden frost]

from what im told, only akechi and futaba requests even have enough to restore

[edgy needle]

I wonder if Mental Hack can be reinstated properly

[slow wren]

what was it supposed to do?

[viral sail]

Ahh okay, could always try looking through ps3, ps4, and pc builds to find unused stuff

Maybe even check the switch build

And I’ve got all the betas so can always check those for unused content too

Also I requested access

[slow wren]

they're basically complete aside from minor text changes, just would need to add them to the scheduler

[viral sail]

Just typed a twitch url manually bc I’m an enigma

[viral sail]

Do yk which version has the files for it?

The only version I don’t have is the ps4, since I don’t have a ps4

[edgy needle]

"Recognise the most effective choice in Demon Negotiations.

Apparently a skill Futaba would learn in her confidant

[golden frost]

i would think something like that would be hardcoded if it were finished enough to be usable

[edgy needle]

Sad

[golden frost]

like maybe thered be a messagescript function that wouldve changed the color of the correct sel option if you have the skill, but id be surprised if the actual functionality is implemented

[viral sail]

the unused momentos mission?

[golden frost]

tbh i wouldve really wanted it, but also futabas abilities are cracked enough as is so id have wanted it to be on someone else lol

[viral sail]

is this the one you're talking about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imq8-grVq3k

[golden frost]

@ glitch please read the message above the one you replied to

[viral sail]

nope thats the anti piracy thing

[viral sail]

oh okay restoring an ability

[golden frost]

persona fan

[viral sail]

anti piracy really spoiling the whole game

[viral sail]

denuvo out here making this event useless

[viral sail]

I'll play p5 eventually

[slow wren]

well at least the switch version which is what I was using
probably PC has it

[viral sail]

Alright

[slow wren]

There's an unused move called "Snatched Kaja" which would let you steal an enemy's buff, that would have been cool

[viral sail]

Should I dump a ps4 copy using my brothers ps4

Not sure if anything unused differs between ps3 and ps4 version

[edgy needle]

No

Mementos mission

[golden frost]

i meant in the sense of reading comprehension not having not played the game (although both are )

[viral sail]

Huh

What about my reading comprehension

[edgy needle]

I'd say the PS3 version would likely have more unused content since it was developed first

[viral sail]

I just didn’t see that msg lol

[golden frost]

im p sure ps3 and ps4 og are basically the same

[viral sail]

I think so

Besides like fps and graphics settings

[viral sail]

I meant I’m gonna dump ps4 royal btw

I could dump both since my stepdad has both on his psn

[golden frost]

yes and
i was replying to hyphen thinking ps3 might have more stuff

[viral sail]

Ohhh lol

[viral sail]

I mean compared to royal it might

[golden frost]

more than ps4 og

[viral sail]

Should I dump og ps4 too?

[golden frost]

oh you were talking about dumping ps4 royal

[viral sail]

Yeee

[slow wren]

the unused grinning black mask sprite is only in ps3 version

[golden frost]

huh

[slow wren]

^

[viral sail]

I think I’ll just dump both

[golden frost]

in any case you both have access to spreadsheet

oh btw you dont have to put _hook at the end of the procedure name if the procedure doesnt originally exist

hooks are for changing existing functions

[viral sail]

sounds good

[slow wren]

forced to check fandom wiki
second most trending page is the chie onsen peeping flash game

[viral sail]

Is that the new wiki?

[wary snow]

Man atlus could get easy money if they just re-released it lol.

[viral sail]

Or fandom

[wary snow]

fandom

[golden frost]

forced to check fandom wiki

[viral sail]

Need the rest of the damn g-mode games ported

[wary snow]

so true

[viral sail]

I didn’t see that part

[golden frost]

blind

[viral sail]

I was guessing new wiki bc the orange

Or yellow

[viral sail]

It’s probably saved by flashpoint

[wary snow]

yeah

[silk jacinth]

im not sure if you're aware but thats a hoax faz made as part of the anti piracy screen trend

as in, its not real

[golden frost]

i was gonna screencap the date to point out it was an april fools joke, except then i realized it wasnt an april fools joke it was a regular joke

[viral sail]

ahhh okay

trying to find a playable version of that is hard

and navigating 2008 atlus.co.jp is hard lol

lol ad for OG etrian 2

[viral sail]

huh

[golden frost]

i dont need to get fucking banned because you derailed this thread with chie softcore cringe game

[wary snow]

how would you get banned?

[viral sail]

pretty sure its lost to time anyways

[silk jacinth]

rule 4

[viral sail]

also why that be disallowed its persona content

[silk jacinth]

i mean if you really wanna know why ask brawler

or any other mod

not to mention this isnt the place to be digging up p4 content anyway

[golden frost]

tbh its already kinda rude to derail a project thread with an unrelated project but to do it with shit that would get ppl in trouble

[silk jacinth]

and also why are you super interested in it to begin with given the content of it

[viral sail]

i didnt even bring it up nor knew it existed

[silk jacinth]

sure but you took the topic from being a one off funny mention to being a full on topic

[golden frost]

was "chie onsen peeping" not enough information to know this is not the place

[silk jacinth]

chubby's post was loosely related to this thread topic anyway

[slow wren]

@vital harbor here I translated the first two debug menus, the second is by far the longest of them all and is for daily life stuff, it took quite a while. some of the stuff I'm still not sure on but lmk if it at least works and makes things comprehensible for you

[vital harbor]

thank you you're the 🐐

[vital harbor]

oh interesting

[golden frost]

what ending it with _hook does is it replaces the body of the original procedure with just a call to the edited version, and the behavior of the original becomes a separate procedure that you can call if you need it

[vital harbor]

@golden frostthat test scheduler_common did not work

the bug has gotta be with flowutils

[golden frost]

i dont think its flowutils as such, otherwise id expect a runtime error not a compile error (ie. itd still crash but script tools wouldnt be complaining about being unable to make the bf)
i think bf emulator is getting tripped up by something

[vital harbor]

i had an error tring to compile 010

[slow wren]

I'll look at it again in a moment

[vital harbor]

@golden frost does fsf even work with bf emulator?

[golden frost]

flowscript framework?

[vital harbor]

yes

[golden frost]

it specifically requires bf emulator

lmao

[vital harbor]

ffff

don't mind me i'm jsut tryna figure this out lolol

[vital harbor]

i know flowscript framework does this itself... but why don't you add a bf emulator plugin? you got FlowFunctions.cs but maybe it's freaking out bc you're not registering it as it's compiling. like, flowscript framework registers it in the api runtime but it's not registered within the compiler itself.

@delicate cove sorry for the ping but i know cbt adds flow functions, do you know what could be going on here? it's registered within flowscript framework but bf emulator isn't recognizing it

[golden frost]

thats...not how dotnet works

[vital harbor]

idk man lolol

[golden frost]

idek what "a bf emulator plugin" is supposed to mean, thats. not a thing

[vital harbor]

ok nvm then

[viral sail]

bf emulator plugin?

what would that even entail

[viral sail]

do you mean emulating bf in flowscript?

[torn ridge]

Emulate BF scripts in 010 or something? That's a good question

[golden frost]

that makes even less sense!

[vital harbor]

what i was trying to say is that there was a .cs file that registers the flowscript functions with flowscript framework, but there was no .cs that registers it within bf emulator

[golden frost]

it isnt needed

[viral sail]

ahhh

arent bf and flow seperate

[golden frost]

flow is just decompiled bf!

[vital harbor]

bf is just compiled floescripr

yeah

[viral sail]

ah

[golden frost]

you define new functions for bf emulator via the functions.json

[vital harbor]

this is so confusing... lol

[golden frost]

the actual behavior for the flow function is part of your mod but bf emulator needs the information in the functions.json to create the file

[silk jacinth]

[silk jacinth]

? what are you trying to do

[golden frost]

the real weird shit is i also use flowscript framework for the doubt mod and those files do compile iirc

[vital harbor]

[golden frost]

i think maybe trying to do the scheduler_common thing is fucking with it but why would that affect library edits

[slow wren]

one of the debug menu options I translated had something about doubt

[vital harbor]

i'm gonna delete shceduler_common and the imports see if it just compiles the regular hooks

[slow wren]

are you sure that file is the problem
because I just tried and it worked for me, and also the errors you're getting are about if statements and I don't see anything at those lines

[vital harbor]

huh

one secnd

it's line 2333 right

[slow wren]

233

it's not that long

[vital harbor]

void PHONE_DEBUG()
{
    int var4;
    _41:
    
    if (1)
    {
        MSG_WND_DSP();
        MSG(MSG_PHONE_SET_CHAT_ID, 0);
        var4 = GET_DBG_NUM();
        
        if (var4 == 0)
        {
            MSG_WND_CLS();
            goto _42;
        }
        else if (var4 <= 1300)
        {
            MSG_WND_CLS();
            CHAT_SET_READ(var4, 0);
            SUB_PhonePickup();
            CALL_CHAT_DIRECT(var4);
            SUB_PhoneEnd();
        }
        else 
        {
            MSG(MSG_PHONE_ERR_CHAT_ID, 0);
            MSG_WND_CLS();
        }

        goto _41;
    }

    _42:
    return;
}```

[golden frost]

the thing is it should still recognize GET_CONFIG_INT_VALUE as the name of a flow function even if it doesnt know what to do with the specific file
so even if that is the problem, like...why????

[vital harbor]

i don't see anything wrong

[slow wren]

I only edited the msg file

[vital harbor]

must've been when i decompiled it

ugh i decompiled again and i'm still getting the same error

[slow wren]

which line there is 233

[vital harbor]

the bracket underneath if (1)

[slow wren]

worth noting that the message labels referenced here are the first ones in the file

[vital harbor]

lemme test recompiling with the vanilla .msg

[slow wren]

I was about to suggest that

[vital harbor]

nope it won't recompile with the vanilla .msg either

...sigh mind just sending me your compiled bf

this might be a wine issue

linux moment

[slow wren]

I don't have the bf
where is this file located I'll try doing it myself

[vital harbor]

.../p5r_custom_bonus_tweaks_reloaded2_6_9/OptionalModFiles/DEBUGNPC.CPK/CPK/DEBUG/SCRIPT/

[worthy mist]

Regarding Kawakami's case, I can only give a clear answer.
In Japan, teachers generally do not call students by their first names in public settings.
For the rest, feel free to revise it to make it clearer and more natural.

[golden frost]

im aware, i was just asking for the sake of consistency with the official localization

...but also this scene already has an official translation, raven just didnt have it dumped for some reason

[vital harbor]

kind of good news? @golden frost it's not scheduler_common

getting the same errors without it

[golden frost]

i c

[vital harbor]

persona fan moment it's actually there and i can't read

in any case it's in there now

i don't think i need to add the files it'll just call them from vanilla iirc

i noticed ocean you put some blank msg files in bmd emulator for the hangouts though

[golden frost]

for the hangouts?

i didnt mess with the dialogue for those, i have filler ones for the will seed scenes but theres nothing in them since no translation yet

[vital harbor]

oh ic

imma shove akechi scene in

[golden frost]

(they also have empty msgs in L10N/ja so they still appear in japanese for jp players once there are translations)

[vital harbor]

ye i know abt that

[golden frost]

watch it be something stupid like the function name being typod somewhere

[vital harbor]

honestly.. maybe lololol

[slow wren]

same problem :(
was it all for naught!?

[vital harbor]

edgsdgjsdongsdjog

i still wanna get this working

(also so we can hand it off to deathchaos)

something's structurally wrong with the flowscript. idk if deathchaos touched it at all

fixed sumire being called sumire in the maruki ending. probably was an oversight

it shouldn't be hard to fix in japanese either i just gotta find Kasumi's kanji...

[slow wren]

her name doesn't use kanji

[vital harbor]

oh

[slow wren]

it's in hiragana

same with sumire

[golden frost]

sumire too

ninjad

[vital harbor]

huh interesting

[golden frost]

i know this mainly from my repaint your heart salt

[vital harbor]

this is much easier then

[golden frost]

disables restoration and enables doubt mod to make sure function imports still work period
wait i thought i turned off flowuti--oh right i migrated a function from doubt to flowutils

[vital harbor]

localization framework uses bmd emulator right

[golden frost]

localization framework is itself an emulator

[vital harbor]

ah okay i'm just wondering if i have to put the whole bmd in here or not

[runic bough]

functionally you can apply the logic with file emulators to localization framework too. iirc there is an example of pak/bf/bmd merging in its documentation though

[vital harbor]

nice okay

[runic bough]

i think (don't quote me on this, check the documentation instead) that as long as you set up a dummy file elsewhere you're good to just use bf/bmd/etc merging

[golden frost]

you can replace shit in p5ressentials folder with loc framework, but you can also replace shit in the (other) emulators

[golden frost]

somehow, it registers doubt functions just fine but not flowutils
it throws an error trying to compile a flow that uses CMM_GET_IN_USE_ID, even though that one would be registered just fine when it was part of doubt

[ivory spruce]

Not as well talked about since there are admittedly limited use cases for it but you can also do _hookafter and _softhook to specifically insert your code to run after and before the original procedure respectively too

[vital harbor]

huh!

til

[vital harbor]

it just doesn't like flowutils apparantely

[golden frost]

technically the underlying code is different since the doubt ver only needed to account for confidants i actually intend to implement doubt for but i dont think that should affect it

[vital harbor]

ocean give me edit acces

[golden frost]

why are you giving me angry emote, i dont check my email every second

[vital harbor]

i'm being joking :P

[viral sail]

i have edit access

[vital harbor]

bruhhh

[viral sail]

I got it before u

i might've been first to request access

[vital harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ram7AKbtkGE

[slow wren]

I want to help with the sheet but getting eepy so maybe later

[vital harbor]

i slept for like 6 hours as soon as i got home so i'm not eepy at all

my sleep schedule is so fucked

[golden frost]

mood

[viral sail]

I would help but idk where to find a list of the events

[vital harbor]

i feel like i have an audience editing this

y'all are just sitting there

[viral sail]

whattt nooo

oh wait you meant the sheet I forgot the tab is open lmaoo

[vital harbor]

ocean why is it checking karaoke and hospital for this one event

[golden frost]

the last line of that check is so it doesnt play on the same day as shiho event if thats enabled

@gleaming hare can u think of a reason why a functions.json might be ignored

[vital harbor]

ok easy shit implemented now we gotta do the stuff that needs some edits

...probably should figure out the flowutils bug first

[runic mist]

wow this brings me back

[viral sail]

@runic mist have you made a video about the video game piracy mementos mission?

[runic mist]

could it be https://youtu.be/9IoKP3w-tTo

[viral sail]

not sure it was mentioned here

[vital harbor]

it seems fake to me

most of those videos are

[viral sail]

faz's videos?

[vital harbor]

no

the "piracy screen" videos are almost always fake

[viral sail]

I havent seen any video of what they're mentioning

thats seperate

its a mission about a kid in universe committing piracy

[vital harbor]

oooohhhh

[viral sail]

you're talking about the video I sent earlier

[vital harbor]

i don't know about that one

[viral sail]

the not april fools joke

[vital harbor]

i'd have to find it, but it's stupid. morally i don't want to add it because it just seems like big company going "piracy bad >:("

[viral sail]

I haven't heard about it either, I might check tcrf or hidden

[viral sail]

I feel like it would be nice to restore just for the sake of restoring all cut content

also I fixed the numbers with / in them in the sheet to be alligned on the right, it was bugging me those two were on the left

[vital harbor]

prob bc sheets registered them as dates

[viral sail]

im gonna watch this and see if thats what hyphen was talking about

[viral sail]

makes sense lmao

also has that bug been fixed you guys need me to test

this bug

[vital harbor]

it's all done but you can't test until the flowutils bug is fixed

[viral sail]

got it, lemme know when thats fixed and ill test

[slow wren]

It's one of the unused requests from vanilla. quest31 here
https://tcrf.net/Persona_5/Unused_Text/Unused_Mementos_Requests

[viral sail]

oh yea I see "A boy in Akihabara has been
illegally downloading video games
and is even bragging about it..."

@vital harbor are you gonna restore those side quests?

[slow wren]

Thing is, those two unused ones in Royal are basically done and would just need the chats to start them added to the scheduler.
The rest of them would have to be mostly built from the ground up. A few have enemies but most just have the above descriptions and that’s it

[vital harbor]

uh we were just gonna do the futaba one because it's the most done

[gleaming hare]

I think they still only apply if they're in the same folder as the flow file. I definitely was going to change that so it'd work with subdirectories but I don't think I did

[viral sail]

that shouldnt be too hard? especially with EVTUI

[slow wren]

and Akechi yeah? I know it exists already independently but I feel it should be included

[slow wren]

I guess, but the thing is a lot of it would have to be made up by us. There isn’t dialogue to start these quests or investigate the targets. The point of this project is to restore existing cut content.

[viral sail]

Looks like some of them have cutscene dialogue

[viral sail]

Guess that could always be a seperate mod

[golden frost]

yes, fake anti piracy videos are a common meme

[viral sail]

Very few of those are real

It’s even considered a creepy pasta lol

[slow wren]

That was funny exactly once
It was such a stupid trend that blew up and then got absorbed by the analog horror creepypasta world

[golden frost]

i tried putting a test flow in same folder as flowutils functions.json though and that also failed

[gleaming hare]

Not sure then

Check logs

[vital harbor]

fuck

we have

[slow wren]

In a world where those ingrained anti-piracy measures are actually widespread like that, it would be pretty funny if the game gave you a request to change their heart just for that

[viral sail]

GTA IV drunk cam go brrr

[slow wren]

This would not be funny to make as a mod because that meme has been beaten into the ground

[viral sail]

I just wanna see all the cut content restored even the stuff that was cut before really being developed like said side quests

[slow wren]

Then that’s not restoring it though, it's recreating what we think it might have been like
It's not a bad idea but I don’t think it’s in the scope of this project

[golden frost]

yeah youd basically be making shit up from whole cloth at a certain level of incomplete

[slow wren]

And as for being unfunny, I was talking specifically about making a fake "P5R does this if you pirate it!!" video like was popular, not recreating that request

[slow wren]

rehab center

[viral sail]

That’s more of a mistranslation lol

[vital harbor]

ffjdbsbsb

I get a visceral reaction reading that noe

[slow wren]

This sounds like something a former addict would say

[golden frost]

if i made will seed scenes from the ground up for rulers that dont have them, that wouldnt be restoration itd be fanfiction even though we can infer theyd exist if the idea hadnt been scrapped

[viral sail]

Could make a Royal Recreation Project thread

[slow wren]

guys kaneshiro is just misunderstood he was bullied for being fat

[vital harbor]

I was thinking the same thing like "man I hope I don't have to go to rehab one day and I can only think of akechi"

[viral sail]

for the stuff that was cut too early to be used in this

[slow wren]

You already can only think of Akechi

[vital harbor]

[viral sail]

https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1425748033118928906

thread for later

[slow wren]

The first Okumura scene has to be reconstructed but that's a bit different because we have the script as well as the other two, and can infer we don’t need anything more than "Okumura standing in a graveyard", so the content itself isn’t really made up

[golden frost]

(i would, for the record, want to do that, but obv itd be a separate mod)

[viral sail]

We do have this now so https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1425748033118928906

I feel like those can wait until this is done though

[golden frost]

thats not really recreation though its just creation

[viral sail]

Meh we can just fold it all into that mod

[golden frost]

im not doing that

[viral sail]

Recreating events like that?

[golden frost]

i tried it again because i 1) didnt have bf emu log level set to debug the first time and 2) was actually trying for something else the first time and it does compile the specific file i put there

still though thats not rly useful to this case since i was intending for the functions to be in a dependency that other mods could consume, plus i dont remember misc flow improvements having this issue (before 1.0.4 broke it)

[gleaming hare]

If you can send me the mod I can try myself and maybe I'll see something you didn't

[golden frost]

i think this should be basically the same as the one in pins but resending to be sure

the restored events zip in pins doesnt have some of ravens changes but it does call a function from there so still useful for testing

[edgy needle]

https://tcrf.net/Persona_5/Unused_Text/Unused_Mementos_Requests#quest31_.28Shadow_Arita.29

[viral sail]

someone sent that already but thank you

[viral sail]

should I replace my old one?

[viral sail]

is there a more updated one in here?

[edgy needle]

I don't think they did

[viral sail]

right here

@edgy needle

[edgy needle]

okay

[gleaming hare]

Unrelated to your problems but you should probably switch this mod to be a library unless it does stuff on its own. I'd assume it only actually does anything if other mods use it.

[golden frost]

i was thinking about it tbh

[gleaming hare]

Is this the version I was meant to use because it is definitely wrong. There's no functions.json at all and you've got some missing brackets in the flow file

[golden frost]

right, i forgot i had to fix that
it should just be using flowutils though, idr misc flow requiring you to copy the functions.json into the consuming mods

[edgy needle]

Can't believe the thieves became corporate shills

[gleaming hare]

I don't think it works like that. Pretty sure you need to copy stuff over (intentional design to reduce the risk of mods breaking each other iirc, maybe bad design though ). The only case that'd happen is if that other mod was editing the same file

[edgy needle]

This shadow actually makes good points btw

[viral sail]

woah atlus actually understands why people pirate
yet they still let the sega overlords implement denuvo 🤣

[edgy needle]

I think only Japanese P5 has actual anti-piracy and even there it's just an error screen

In the PS3/PS4 version oddly

[viral sail]

Just deepl’d that lol

[torn ridge]

not anti-piracy

[golden frost]

yeah no lol i got that booting my legitimately bought pc royal in japanese

[torn ridge]

You can do that screen by playing in the Japanese version.

It's warning thw player ABOUT piracy

[viral sail]

thats what I thought like how most games will pop up that its illegal to play it pirated, but it shows up pirated or not

[viral sail]

and all its meant to do is make the pirate go "uhhh I didnt do it"

[viral sail]

I mean if they aren't profiting it is legally abandonware

[golden frost]

literally skob

[viral sail]

rockstar specifically sells the classic gta's only on social club launcher so that it doesnt legally become abandonware

[slow wren]

I'm a nerd who actually read the yuzu lawsuit and they tried to define emulators as inherently being illegal. Like "an emulator is a program that illegally allows a user to play ROMS"

[viral sail]

gta 1 and 2 are abandonware though

[golden frost]

even though they literally already lost a court case on emulators

[viral sail]

that lawsuit was full of so much bs

[golden frost]

like. in the 90s i think

when was the bleem thing i forgor

[viral sail]

they should be reminded of bleem
it was sony who lost
ps1
iirc

[viral sail]

1999 let you play ps1 games on pc or dreamcast
sony lost the lawsuit
prob why sony leaves emulators alone

[golden frost]

abandonware should be public domain anyway

[slow wren]

This is typical but under the maximum extent of the law they were trying to sue for like $20k for each time someone played a pirated game with yuzu

[golden frost]

LOL

[slow wren]

right there was a lot of misinformation but this is how I understood their exact argument (with help from my dad who is a lawyer)

[golden frost]

i thought for a sec that maybe that design would track for like...replacing an unused function in a way that changes name or arguments. if two mods are changing the same function then theyre probably fully incompatible anyway though
and i dont think itd matter for fully new functions at all, unless you were unlucky enough for flowscript framework to have a collision while generating id or something

[edgy needle]

The first 3 are the exact same reason

[gleaming hare]

That sounds smart but no, currently it isn't like that

[viral sail]

It pretty much is legally

[viral sail]

Ikr

[golden frost]

anyway "temp" fix i guess is just copy functions.json from flowutils to restoration project

[slow wren]

Not quite. They're about the same actions, but referencing different specific aspects of the copyright law.

[silk jacinth]

...why would you make this

[runic bough]

I understand we are all excited about this project but please keep things on topic :)

also, typically #1020628359610376232 is meant for active projects, commissions, or as implied, concepts. please keep that in mind. thanks!

[vital harbor]

i was thinking we should probably remove spoilers from the config menu

like "akechi shelter" and "maruki harem endings"

not sure of the alternatives though

[viral sail]

Am I not allowed to make a topic?

Who deleted my topic

[silk jacinth]

read this ^

[viral sail]

Okay but why was it deleted

[silk jacinth]

ask brawler, he's right there

[viral sail]

It was a concept

[silk jacinth]

[viral sail]

What?

[silk jacinth]

I don't have time to explain but I'll do it later ig

actually @runic bough

[runic bough]

you're tagging me but I'm at work lmao

[silk jacinth]

me too 💔

employed attack

[runic bough]

anyways: there isn't a problem with you making a new concept thread as long as you follow the guidelines in the pinned post. the problem is that the post you made had an ambiguous title and no content in it whatsoever, so it was unclear what the post was even for. it's basically just spam at that point.

if you were to remake the thread with a more descriptive body, it would not be an issue.

(I will also point out that the original title you used was extremely similar to this thread's title, which can cause confusion)

if you have further questions, I would direct you to one of the modding chats rather than asking here, so this thread can stay on topic. thanks

[runic bough]

culprit/traitor shelter
stay route harem ending

I do think it's reasonable enough but it's hard to avoid spoilers when the restored events are inherently spoilery

[silk jacinth]

yeah I would just embrace the spoilers

idt you should be going into unused content unaware of spoilers

[runic bough]

at the very least you could keep the names vague enough but then embrace full spoilers in their descriptions. it's not a perfect solution but I'm not sure what else you could do

[vital harbor]

ye

I honestly think the names themselves rn are vague enough

[runic bough]

I think so, yeah. removing specific names would probably help if you really care about that although I also think they aren't sufficiently descriptive to spoil anything super big

"Akechi shelter"? what does that mean

"Maruki harem ending?" does Maruki get a bunch of girls over on Valentine's Day?

[vital harbor]

LMAO

[slow wren]

Can we not use the word harem

[clear gazelle]

"(Ideal Reality) Oops! All Valentines"

[viral sail]

Why?

[golden frost]

i feel like most ppl whod use this are probably on a second playthrough though, and "akechi shelter" is vague enough without context anyway
for harem you can just not specify that its a maruki ending thing

[golden frost]

i mean we could say polycule but then youre downplaying how fucked it actually is

[wary snow]

They consented. Just in a reality they may not have much control in... Which is indeed fucked.

[vital harbor]

BAHAHA yes

[vital harbor]

unconsented consenting

the fucked up version of consenting non consent

[vital harbor]

I'll put "unused harem event"

more info in the description

[golden frost]

events plural since youre bundling both together

also i got off my ass and added the rest of the will seed events to the spreadsheet

i know their ids offhand since they follow a pattern lol

[vital harbor]

oh it's pretty now

[golden frost]

major id counts up by 1 from 490 for each ruler, minor id counts up by 10 from 10 for each scene

maruki videotapes fit this pattern which is as good evidence as anyway that they were repurposed from this

[vital harbor]

here

it's a zip with all my changes

[slow wren]

because it's weird and cringe with a dash of misogyny and orientalism
It is a bit more accurate for the Maruki ending but still

[viral sail]

Gonna update

[vital harbor]

it won'

it won't work

i need to test if adding the json file fixes it

seems to fix it

[golden frost]

...yknow it might be easier after all to make this a repo lol, im losing track of what files youve changed and i dont want to risk overwriting my own local changes

i dont have time rn though, i have to leave for class in like a minute

[vital harbor]

yep adding functions.json fixed the flowutils bug. strange

[golden frost]

yes that is what swine and i were talking about last night

[vital harbor]

i know i saw

[golden frost]

gtg

[vital harbor]

i'll make the repo

i just gotta remember how to do that...

[golden frost]

ideally id want bf emulator to just. use multiple functions.jsons
but thatd have to be a pr which is less immediate of a fix than just copying the file

[vital harbor]

i suppose you can put the pr in now for future use 🤷

https://github.com/theloneraven/royalrestoration

idk how to add someone to have the ability to push stuff to this without needing a pr

[runic bough]

you add them as a contributor to the repo, they get an invite, they accept, bam

[silk jacinth]

they also steal $20 from your bank account

[vital harbor]

please no i'm broke

[vital harbor]

NOOO IT'S BROKEN AGAIN

rip

adding functions.json did not work

@golden frost

i'll try clearing my cache actually

nope

it's never worked i just missed it the first time because i had kasumi protag mods on which flood the logs lol

[viral sail]

tbh repo might help

[viral sail]

did you figure it out?

[vital harbor]

yeah I just added ocean as a contributer

[viral sail]

Alright

@golden frost you’ll probably wanna fork it too, and then push to upstream after you make changes so you don’t mess with ravens workflow

Forgot a whole word

[vital harbor]

i'm not really sure how github works so idk if that's necessary

[viral sail]

If you’re both editing the same file fuck ups will happen

That’s why one edits fork then merges to upstream to merge both changes (has to make sure the other person has saved and pushed before doing so)

I’ve had my work get overwritten too many times in a repo

[clear gazelle]

Contributors can just make a branch + PR, yeah.

[viral sail]

Oh I guess branch works too yea

I normally just use fork and upstream

[runic bough]

I think ocean already knows how git workflows work

[golden frost]

i am a cs major

[runic mist]

always knew you could go far in life with counter strike

[golden frost]

lmao

[viral sail]

woah the sheet looks hella different

[slow wren]

They've come a long way, but let me just say, faking is not enough, so

[slow wren]

For the spreadsheet, I was thinking— should there be a separate tab for scenes that already exist but are being "restored", e.g. voiced Maruki scenes or even things like Akechi's alternate third awakening

[golden frost]

voices are a separate mod they just havent been removed from config

[golden frost]

you dont have to put "untranslated" in the translation credit column, its kinda implicit from the "no" in the translation column

[slow wren]

I'm adding some stuff to the sheet
now looking at TCRF
this seems like an unused bad ending https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBP74c2cJ9o
I wonder if it's supposed to be if you take the God of Control's deal? It could theoretically be inserted between there and the end cutscene with Joker doing the evil grin

[golden frost]

og font and bustups jumpscare

[slow wren]

yep

also
I was thinking, the spreadsheet should probably have a column for when a scene occurs? (e.g. 4/1, daytime, after x scene) And it might be more helpful to sort them that way rather than by ID, which could be a filter view

[runic mist]

its what I did on mine

[golden frost]

i did add a column for what file(s) should be hooked but i guess it would be more useful to explicitly say when than to try and infer it from that first thing

[slow wren]

the kamehameha scene is really funny, I'm sad that was lost since honestly they make such a big deal of Hawaii and not too much happens besides whatever date you go on and Mishima getting diarrhea

[golden frost]

honestly from a watch it feels like the ending choice couldve been in the convo where in the final game the pts decide to go to depths, and this would happen if you decide nah, lets not do that
and then they just cut it off into its own unused thing when they decided that the choice would be after the igor twist instead

i could still see it working with where the final game choice is though, like after you pick it the game suddenly jumps to this and jonkler is mildly disoriented but then just lets it happen bc thats what he chose

[slow wren]

yeah exactly

[golden frost]

and then royal has two opportunities to pick its bad ending lol

[slow wren]

"caught in 4k"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9aSWNuCM6o
I wonder if there's an English voice line from Akechi we could use here

bc it's voiced but in Japanese

[golden frost]

also the "eh, shidos not a threat anymore even if he is in office" is funny to me just bc the version of shido in my head would be this close to ending it all if that actually happened

[runic mist]

I made a short about this a few days ago

I managed to port this to royal so you can steal this from my files

[slow wren]

and then he'd just resign and have one of his lackeys who still believes it take his place

[runic mist]

looking at some veeery old vids pan sent me

[golden frost]

i mean honestly he could khs and itd amount to the same outcome

who said that

[slow wren]

lol why did it use the awakening music there

the giant ball is let free and is gonna awaken to its Persona

[silk jacinth]

oh, that's an interesting bad ending

wonder if they were originally planning to do something like that

kinda like the idea of the phantom thieves just never growing up like they do in december

[slow wren]

some of these unused vanilla scenes are still left unused in Royal but I guess some also aren't and would have to be ported

[noble echo]

https://tenor.com/view/coding-programming-ready-python-javascript-gif-7365994654366633612

[golden frost]

like i dont think hed have to "have" them do anything, i think at that point itd happen with or without his cooperation

[silk jacinth]

when ur prime minister highkey suicidal

[slow wren]

that's what I meant, just phrased it wrong

[silk jacinth]

presidental announcement: i am going to jump

[slow wren]

there's a really funny dialogue in Kichijoji in 3rd semester where some drunkard is like "Shido's so lucky in prison, he probably gets all the booze he wants"

[golden frost]

BRUH

LMAO

god, not me remembering that fucking yaldy ending fic i keep telling myself i want to write

like, this would actually be a plot point lmao

[slow wren]

it's kind of impressive how the random NPCs around town do have arcs across the game
like this drunk guy and his friend are always there arguing about whatever that changes as the story progresses
and they're all affected by Maruki's reality and then have closure on 3/19

[silk jacinth]

post p5 must be funny for the general public

"hey remember when we inaugurated that bumbling moron who was obviously a criminal lmao"

[slow wren]

I do remember that and it's not very funny

[golden frost]

me when im american

[slow wren]

ok mb this was the dialogue
I remember I had to take an actual photo to send it to someone because no screenshots in 3rd semester (atlus moment)

[golden frost]

oh yeah i remember that lmao

[slow wren]

Based on recent events Sae is going to be indicted shortly

[silk jacinth]

"Proxy SIU Director"

he could never live up to the title

[slow wren]

he doesn't have the degree in Unsubtle Exposition

[golden frost]

Unsubtle Unnecessary Exposition

[slow wren]

Sae clearly studied it though

the greatest contribution the SIU Director has to the story is when he says "Shid..."

and fucking dies

anyways, it seems like on TCRF alone, vanilla P5 (understandably) has a lot of unused scenes, but a lot of them are just earlier/test versions of existing scenes

[viral sail]

alr wasnt sure so i just added it

[slow wren]

a lot of the scenes on TCRF are like "this scene would have been set on this day"
idk what makes that clear but it should definitely be documented on the sheet (even if we have to change things a little to match the final game, e.g. the Kichijoji hangout happening before you first go there)

is this scene redundant? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Q4d4UaV3M

@runic mist which scenes did you have to port from the OG P5?

[runic mist]

I think I only did kaimhaimmehame and checkmate

[golden frost]

i have og p5 if it comes to it though id have to remember how to jailbreak my ps4

[slow wren]

I have it extracted if it helps

[golden frost]

checks p5r pc files out of curiosity
oh, the bmd for kamehameha is still there but the evt isnt

lmao

[tall lintel]

goku

yes i know you mean the hawaiian king

[golden frost]

tbf there was a time where i also couldnt not make that joke

[tall lintel]

it do be pronounced differently

[golden frost]

wait, same for the bad end thing lol

[slow wren]

the reason the scene is so funny is because Ryuji thinks that's what it is

[tall lintel]

WAIT ARE YOU FR

[slow wren]

yes

[tall lintel]

that's my guy right there

[slow wren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0HhKIryN2s

[golden frost]

i found bmd for literally all 5 of the ones in the spreadsheet lol

[slow wren]

so they're just missing the actual event stuff lol

[golden frost]

yeah

[slow wren]

some of the dialogue does need to be rewritten to match the dub

and, well remove the SE labels

[golden frost]

i dont think those matter as long as the evt doesnt call them (unless thats how sound effects are handled...?)

[tall lintel]

this is peak

seeing old p5 portraits hurt my sovl tho

[slow wren]

also it needs music huh
I'm trying to think what track would be good here
maybe "My Homie" as I saw one yt comment describe it as the "Ryuji and/or Yusuke have a bruh moment theme"

[tall lintel]

whatever they use for other hawaii scenes i'd say

[slow wren]

maybe it was going to continue from the previous scene

[slow wren]

it varies
they tend to use New Beginning at the beach and Alright in other scenes it seems like

there are more actually
it really depends on the scene

[golden frost]

i think probably just whatever fits best with the tone while watching it

[slow wren]

I just checked the various BGM they use for cutscenes and strongly think it should be "My Homie"

[golden frost]

"hot" take: the special takoyaki scene shouldve transitioned to my homie after akechi eats it and starts fucking dying

maybe ill make that mod sometime lol, im sure its like 2 seconds in evtui

[slow wren]

make it switch to awakening like the above clip

[golden frost]

snrk

[slow wren]

watch the ps3 version have English voices for these scenes or something

watch the ps3 version have the full version of the first okumura scene

[golden frost]

i still cant believe i fucking found that, i was led to believe it didnt exist at all before then

like. genuinely if someone found it before me i demand to know

[slow wren]

I feel the same way about the Lavenza Satanael scene and like Vashti found that in a text dump but assumed it was used

[golden frost]

the will seeds are probably the most personally interesting to me just because of my tastes so me finding that is

[slow wren]

some of these singleword lines are hilarious

[golden frost]

LOL

[slow wren]

the duality of man

this one is just so funny to me for some reason

the way he says it

I was looking for a suitable akechi line but I can't find one
there probably is in an actual event
or we could just leave it in Japanese

the total tone change when it switched to his 3rd semester lines is great

like it always is but especially when they're just playing in order

[golden frost]

for some reason i briefly misremembered this being in final game before realizing it didnt make sense for that to be the case and i was prob just thinking of the flashback in the fake your death reveal

maybe we could make it ng+ only idk

[slow wren]

this would definitely be after the plot happens. like when igor reminds you

[golden frost]

the lack of flashback filter made me think you could be seeing it as it happens, but obv if that were the case then itd be ng+ only

but im prob reading too much into it

[slow wren]

are the unused prince-Akechi nav lines in SPT03? That file isn't in the Switch version but maybe the PS4 one?

[golden frost]

oh, funny story about the twist actually
i got the tshirt room decoration in november, the one that hangs on the side of your workbench
and during one of the flashback sequences with futaba i could see it in the background, even though i wouldnt have had it when the flashback took place

[runic mist]

I think I edited the kaimhaimehame bmd to match p5r as well

iirc I added the phone portrait for when futaba talks

[delicate cove]

https://youtu.be/Oacxoor59Bs

[edgy needle]

I love his mocking voic

[slow wren]

Which scenes have you ported in general? We should add them to the list.
From your YT channel I see this, the longer Yaldabaoth scene, and Sae's casino thing from the beta

[golden frost]

haha

[vital harbor]

we got the one and only okumura fan

[golden frost]

my partner is the one and only shido fan so i think im just a magnet for these people B)

[vital harbor]

palace ruler fans gonna be eating with this one

[golden frost]

they actually made a comic out of the other two like a year ago (pay no mind to this being a reblog) https://www.tumblr.com/ocean-stuck/761269893780865024

Random Blog of Randomness

🔁 rattled-shadow

So uh. I spent 3 years on and off turning the cut Kunikazu Okumura will seed events found in P5Rs code into comic form.

Im always thinkin about the cut will seed content, so hopfully this comic helps that content be less forgettable.

Credits to and @regularpainties for the translation on Xwitter.

https://youtu.be/Nx-sIAmOtPI?list=PLfCP2Eynta9hijoYc6aDe_i3ZLp6rbdeN...

-# #i want to mod the will seeds back in so bad #but id want a different translation and id want to make new ones too #i know how to do it but...asset making #anyway obsessed with this #persona

Tumblr · Sep 10, 2024, 9:25 PM

and also this bc of my post lol https://www.tumblr.com/cloud8doesstuff/796822536008712192/in-order-to-gain-you-must-give-inspired-by

[golden frost]

tbf id probably have the same reaction if we discovered like tomorrow that goros moms pseudocanon name was tadae lol

[vital harbor]

does tadae mean something?

i named her rikako in my fic just cuz i thought it sounded cute

[golden frost]

i kinda just google searched at some point for names that could mean "devotion" depending on the kanji you used lol

[vital harbor]

i never came up with a kanji for her name

i think i can use the jasmine kanji in it

[slow wren]

It's Akiko not Aikiko

奥村 明子

[golden frost]

im aware

[vital harbor]

i keep reading akihiko lol

[golden frost]

considering they were screaming i assume they just typod it

[slow wren]

I wasn’t sure if they made a mistake reading or typing or what

[golden frost]

i make typos like that all the time i just usually catch them before i hit send

[slow wren]

first kanji is the same 明彦

[vital harbor]

interesting

[slow wren]

share the name lore with them maybe

[golden frost]

i included it in my initial post

[vital harbor]

i think i can go for 莉花子 for rikako for akechi's mom. not like it'll be used in the fic since it's in english... lol

[slow wren]

can you link it
tumblr is not friendly to those without accts

[haughty fossil]

oceanstuck

posted to tumblr and bsky btw
https://www.tumblr.com/ocean-stuck/796690985795158016/not-me-discovering-a-first-okumura-scene-while
https://bsky.app/profile/oceanstuck.bsky.social/post/3m2khigkias2d

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not me discovering a FIRST okumura scene while flipping through the will seed backstories for a mod 😱...

Tumblr · Oct 6, 2025, 8:48 PM

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not me discovering a FIRST okumura scene while flipping through the will seed backstories for a mod 😱

Bluesky · Oct 6, 2025, 8:33 PM

[golden frost]

alternate link if that doesnt work https://ocean-stuck.tumblr.com/post/796690985795158016/not-me-discovering-a-first-okumura-scene-while

Random Blog of Randomness

not me discovering a FIRST okumura scene while flipping through the will seed backstories for a mod 😱...

Tumblr · Oct 6, 2025, 8:48 PM

[golden frost]

i posted the kanji i thought of for tadae somewhere...lemme find it...

忠愛

[vital harbor]

aww that's pretty

goro meaning "my son" killed me

[golden frost]

someday i will get to use "'Masayoshi,' meaning justice. What a joke that seems like now." in a fic

[vital harbor]

i don't think i decided on an age for rikako either

her name is kind of elegant and traditional so i now think i'm gonna make her parents super stuck up and rich but they just don't give a shit about her

they didn't take akechi in either because they're like "ew"

like they're not proud of her. i imagine they have liek 7 kids

[golden frost]

idr why exactly but i think i mentally went with 27/28 when goro was born and 35 when she died

[vital harbor]

if i made her 20 when she had goro she'd be younger than my parents... lol

and akechi was born 9 years before me

idk i always imagined her pretty young but 20 might be a bit too young

i think 24 sounds about right

[golden frost]

legal adulthood in japan was 20 until 2022

[vital harbor]

oh my

honestly 20 might be a better age for legal adulthood

[golden frost]

ehh

[vital harbor]

still younger than my parents... lol

[golden frost]

my mom had me at 19
which somehow is less concerning just bc we live in the us where adulthood was already 18

[vital harbor]

my mom had me when she was 36

[golden frost]

i mean that ones not bad, just a lil weird lol

[vital harbor]

technically a geriactric pregnancy

but i am the youngest so it's not that odd

[slow wren]

There's an NPC who literally says something like "Shido has to be trustworthy! His name literally means 'justice'!"

[golden frost]

skob

politically disengaged morons when a guy has a common given name

[slow wren]

正義だの、仲間だの！目障りなんだよ・・・どいつもこいつも！

[vital harbor]

i remember this lol

i wanna get back to writing my akechi backstory fic now...

i should make an outline thoguh. i was just rawdogging it but a fic like this needs an outline lol

[golden frost]

i wanna get back to writing literally any of my fics

<== will probably not do that

[vital harbor]

i should porbably write my college application essays first

[golden frost]

i should probably finish my college homework first

[slow wren]

I like how this is what Loki says when you fuse him in P3R (it was directly translated in that game instead though)

[vital harbor]

loki is reverse justice!

teammates... friends? to hell with that!
is that the translation in game?

in which case... rip justice

[slow wren]

What I posted is the Japanese version of "Justice!? Righteous!? Keep that shit to yourselves!"
which Loki says in P3R in Japanese but instead of using the lines from P5 the localization there they directly translated it

He says "All this talk about justice, about friendship... It's foolish. Incredibly foolish. I'll destroy it all...!"

[vital harbor]

i think that fits loki a bit more

[slow wren]

Loki learns Makoto Yuki is actually part of SEES:
"You and your teammates piss me off!"

[slow wren]

@golden frost I realized another thing about "Akiko" as 明子
I thought it was probably related to Hiratsuka Raichō, and Yosano Akiko was indeed a contemporary figure in the early Japanese feminist movement. They were collaborators and Yosano was a member of Seitō, a magazine founded by Hiratsuka, but later they strongly disagreed on whether mothers should be financially independent, which became a whole controversy. But Yosano Akiko spelled her name (which was a pen name, like Raichō) as 晶子— not out of the question for it to still be a reference, though.

However I completely overlooked that not only was Raichō's birth name Haru, but it was spelled as 明 (Haru in-game uses 春). She was also called Haruko as it was common to suffix to women's names so that was spelled 明子. I even found some sites saying she used the pen name 奥村 明 (Okumura Haru), or that it was her "real name" (legal name?) but I don't know how true that is— my understanding was she made a point of not taking her spouse's surname.

[golden frost]

i was gonna go to bed like an hour ago but my brain decided to push changes on my local version + other shit i was meaning to do like add to config.yaml and touch up the 490_010 translation

just gonna push this

i might implement a couple tomorrow if im not busy w something

well

"tomorrow" its almost 5am here

i have a very healthy sleep schedule /lie

[runic bough]

average CS major

[vital harbor]

yeah I went to bed at 5 am lolol

and I just woke up... it's 2 pm

[golden frost]

is this used i forgor

[slow wren]

I think so…?

Yeah it is

[golden frost]

ok

trying to decide where in scheduler to put the two hawai'i events
YOU

[slow wren]

you what

[golden frost]

319_10 is an siu director moment

[slow wren]

oh
dumb

though tbf the incident with the principal is probably one of the few times it makes sense for him to show up

Not that he should

[golden frost]

i love overexplaining the villains' plans!!

oh yeah i forgor this one

(im flipping through fazs royal cut 7z)

[runic bough]

my goat

[slow wren]

Mod idea: replace every single one of the SIU Director's lines and bustups with this

[golden frost]

(im mainly trying to gank any evts that dont exist on pc, which is presumably faster than figuring out how to dump both ps4 og and ps4 royal)

[golden frost]

im guessing 188_099 is the beta mishima rank 1 with the igor jumpscare? its not listed on amicitia but fazs files seem to suggest it

[golden frost]

hm, this zip has evt for will seed backstories as well as the will seed tutorial
i assume the former are for some kind of cleanup edit? i remember characters jumping abruptly from one anim to the next when i watched them long ago

the latter id guess is so it flows into 490_010

[vital harbor]

i mean we can ask faz

@runic mist

[runic mist]

hi

[vital harbor]

read ocean's message

[slow wren]

wtf you can't ping faz he'll kill you for that /s

[vital harbor]

omggg the guy who said pinging him was fine

[runic mist]

i dont really recall editing any ( will seed ) evts aside from maybe music

but I think that was handled in another file? ect?

[vital harbor]

/s

[runic mist]

I dont recall its been way too lon

g

[golden frost]

ecs

[runic mist]

ecs yeah

[golden frost]

i c

[runic mist]

the will seed tutorial one

[vital harbor]

strange

[runic mist]

that is edited to play the first kamoshida flashback

https://fixupx.com/ScrambledFaz/status/1437143082718408705

Faz (@ScrambledFaz)

Finally managed to implement the unused backstories, something I thought I had to drop. Can't wait to show you all how much progress I made on my Royal's Cut mod.

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[vital harbor]

that's probably it then

[runic mist]

however I think that was actually handled in the field evt?

[vital harbor]

...the fields have evts?

[runic mist]

or whatever files fields have

[vital harbor]

flow script

or bf

[golden frost]

the keyfree event?

[vital harbor]

ah that's probably it

[runic mist]

dont think it was keyfree

[vital harbor]

random aside but i wonder what bmd and bf stand for or if they're arbirtrary

[golden frost]

the fbox bf?

[runic mist]

bum dum dickFUCK

presented by the GOD FUCKING DAMMIT engine!!!

[vital harbor]

presented by peak engine

(if evts were easier to understand maybe)

[ivory spruce]

My guess is that BMD is just short for "binary message data" and BF is short for "Binary Flow"

[runic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[vital harbor]

ooooh

[slow wren]

speaking of will seeds
One of Royal's unused events is a voiced version of the one where you sell Iwai the medal, except this time Joker shows him a will seed and he's like "wtf is this, take it to this guy in Kichijoji" (perhaps Trader Sakai was going to deal with them first?)
It’s weird because the used version still isn’t voiced. And presumably this wouldn’t play if you didn’t even have a will seed, so… idk what we should do.
Assuming we don’t care about the nonexistent Kichijoji lead (or Iwai is just stupid), we could play this one if the player has a will seed, and if they don't, play the original but the voices are added in

[golden frost]

youre forced by the final game to take the first seed so youll always have either at least one seed or the whole crystal

[slow wren]

Oh right

[golden frost]

maybe @silk jacinth could put voices in the final game version if they want

[silk jacinth]

huh

[golden frost]

the unused ver of the medal selling scene has voices while the used one doesnt

for whatever reason

[vital harbor]

why does atlus remove so many voiced scenes

[silk jacinth]

I'd say don't bother adding it unless you can figure out a use for a will seed vendor (which seems redundant given jose upgrades them)

if the release version has unused voice lines I can edit that though

[golden frost]

yeah i was gonna have this default to off since i wouldnt use it in a normal playthrough
the option is just there in case someone wants to see (and isnt enough of a power user to be trusted with mod menu)

i was just pinging since it might be interesting for unused voice line restoration

[silk jacinth]

are the voice lines just unused in the retail event awb or would I be stealing them from the unused event

[golden frost]

stealing

[silk jacinth]

sounds painful

I'll see what I can do

[golden frost]

lazy way would be to just rename 481_005 acb/awb to 712_010, idk if theres an advantage to converting it to ryo though

and then i guess theres the vp calls in the bmd but thatd probably be needed either way

[golden frost]

445_002 doesnt seem to have evt in p5r pc

i dont see it in faz zip either so @slow wren

[slow wren]

@delicate cove can you share that mod you were making but never finished about cut events? I know from your YT you at least did the longer version of Yaldabaoth ranting and restored the Sae poker scene, which would be cool to include

[vital harbor]

while working on my other mod, i found this... is this in the game? i don't remember it

[golden frost]

i dont think, no

[vital harbor]

not on amicita

huh i guess it's good to note

[golden frost]

where would this even be put lmao

what context would this happen in

[vital harbor]

no clue lol

this comes right after um

this cutscene with shiho

[golden frost]

my dump has it sandw--yeah lmao

like...it doesnt have shit to do with anything else in the game lol. its completely out of pocket

[vital harbor]

it's so odd lmao

even joker is like "...huh?"

"That's sudden." yeah right it is

[golden frost]

theres nothing that would prompt it and no payoff that im aware of lolol

[vital harbor]

feels like a prompt for a mechanic they never implemented

[golden frost]

prolly lol

sojiro had scrapped abilities for getting game, so

[vital harbor]

ooohh this was def it

[golden frost]

what if we stuck it somewhere random and let people just be like
"huh??"

[vital harbor]

that'd be hilarious

[slow wren]

sometimes on TCRF it says there is a date/time connected to an event... where is that indicated?

[vital harbor]

huh? never heard of it

[golden frost]

sometimes you can infer when itd happen based on the id or what actually happens in the event but i dont think either applies here lmao

[slow wren]

like the kichijoji hangout for instance, it says "this event takes place on 5/22 even though Kichijoji isn't unlocked until June"

[golden frost]

yeah i have no goddamn idea lmao

[slow wren]

there is a file called evtDateTable.bin but idk what that is

[vital harbor]

that might be useful if we know how to extract and read it

[golden frost]

oh, i ctrl+f'd in my bf dump to see if it was called anywhere and theres apparently a chat that does it?
which does check if date is 5/22

scriptchat_792

[golden frost]

i guess this line is bc inokashira park is technically in the kichijoji area? feels a lil weird when ryuji eventually takes you to kichijoji either way but shrug

[slow wren]

hmm

I might be able to parse this lemme see

I'm just going to make a new tab on the sheet for this (we can delete it later if we want)

[golden frost]

why does this show the message for unlocking meiji shrine

[golden frost]

ive never heard of this file ever

id prob still force it to be after you unlock kichijoji normally since idk what happens if you load into that field early lolol

[slow wren]

this

[golden frost]

LOL

oh, i dont have evt for 403_001 either

looking at the bf for that one, they talk about united future victory as something that will happen, rather than something that just happened, so it should be sometime between 11/21 and 12/17, inclusive

im inclined to just stick it in 12/17 night just bc...why not

[slow wren]

check the new tabs

[vital harbor]

this is strangely ominous

[vital harbor]

pretend i replied

[slow wren]

there's also EVTDATEOFFTABLE which is just a list of events and I think it's probably where there is no date/it's "turned off"

[golden frost]

you can turn off the date in the event itself though

like im sure these are good reference for where they mightve wanted to put things but im not sure its actually used lol

[slow wren]

probably
still neat data to have

the event folder in my switch dump has some txt logs
are those there in the PC version

[golden frost]

yeah

[vital harbor]

yeah I think they're like imports in bf

they say things like "import .evt" and "import .ecs"

fucking discord

EBBSBSBSD

no underscores fuck you discord

[slow wren]

most of the unused events are not there in those tables anyways
481_005 (voiced Iwai) is there twice for some reason though

[golden frost]

i always forget and then have to edit in escape characters lol

[slow wren]

wait, 521_030 (Adult confidant party) is listed as 3/19, timeslot 5
was it supposed to play after Joker leaves? that doesn't really make sense

[golden frost]

um ackschually you dont leave until 3/20 🤓

still out of place though yeah

[slow wren]

me when brain says "3/19 is the last day"
I guess it would play after you're done saying goodbye for the day? like right before the next day

[golden frost]

yeah though itd still feel weird af

esp since by then itd have been a bit since jonkler got out of the slammer

[slow wren]

he got subway slammed

I mean looking at the scene, it could feasibly take place then, it just would be really out of place
it definitely seems like it's supposed to be after everyone does their "help get Joker out of jail" shtick

since they're celebrating, it would probably be after he's released though

maybe right after valentine's day
Sojiro left for this party after warning Joker about the 10 girlfriends standing outside

btw the Maruki Valentine's/White Day events are in this table

also- I've realized a lot of the scenes that aren't voiced still don't have any "singleword" lines, but idk if we should add them in

some of the bustups seem wrong too sometimes

[golden frost]

4 of those girlfriends also went to the party after beating him up

[slow wren]

that's why they're celebrating

let's just pretend they made a typo and put it on 2/19

I wonder if any of the betas have these events still happening or indicate when they might be?

[golden frost]

i dont see 403_001 in evtdatetbl anyway so imma just leave it where it is ig

the id suggests probably it was planned for right before shido free time but...eh

[golden frost]

i might refactor so that most stuff is only merged in if the option is actually on

not tonight though its almost 5 again

oh, shinjuku hangout seems to be called in sdl_Active_Coop_Holiday_Event, a scheduler function, along with a bunch of other (used) events

i still want to make a bunch of these "first fitting day after clearing the palace" instead but im putting a pin in that observation

[slow wren]

Looking at making a rough draft translation for the first Okumura scene
There's already the kind of context that’s hard to carry over: Haru was upset because he missed Sports Day at her school. This is a big thing in Japan where kids practice to show off to their parents. Furthermore it's a public holiday, meaning the company would be closed, but he felt the need to work anyways on a holiday AND missing the event.

[golden frost]

i think itd be neat to have like translation notes for stuff like that that cant naturally be explained in text

or stuff thats just plain hard to translate clearly

[slow wren]

I'm trying not to diverge from the text too much, but given this context would be clear to anyone in Japan, it might make sense to add in "to see her"

[golden frost]

yeah

[slow wren]

The dump you posted seems to have encoding errors
But that might be because it was in the English version
I can try dumping it from the Japanese version

[golden frost]

i actually have a copy of jp.cpk sitting around so i can grab it real quick

but yeah i think its because i used a batch script to decomp a bunch of bfs and bmds at once and just had it use p5r_efigs

[slow wren]

can you do me a favor and just share the text
not at my computer rn

[golden frost]

yeah gimme a sec

[slow wren]

Thanks

He cares about his employees here
He missed the event because he didn’t want them to lose their jobs

[golden frost]

im realizing now that i probably also have this issue with other untranslated files

[slow wren]

Yeah
This fixed an important kanji missing

[golden frost]

> googles sports day
> "sports day is held on the 2nd monday of october"
> remember when okumura deadline is
> pull up a 2016 calendar
oh

[golden frost]

yknow actually i just realized this years sports day would be today (japan time) which is funny

[vital harbor]

happy sports day I guess lol

[slow wren]

[msg MSG_000_0_0 [Kunikazu Okumura]]
Dad, Akiko… How have you been?

[msg MSG_001_0_0 [Kunikazu Okumura]]
I've been getting by well enough.
The company's going perfectly smoothly.

Today, I was thinking of bringing Haru along too…

But just recently, I couldn't make it to her Sports Day
event, after I'd promised her I'd go to see her…
She cried her eyes out, and became all sulky.

[msg MSG_002_0_0 [Kunikazu Okumura]]
On that day, there was something I absolutely
couldn't miss in order to protect the company…

I know firsthand what the struggles of poverty are like,
so my desire to protect our employees overtook me.

That's the same reason I had to close your coffee shop, Dad.
You can't protect your employees while continually running at a loss…

Many of our employees loved that coffee shop too…
But I'm sure they'll understand my point of view someday, right?

[msg MSG_003_0_0 [Kunikazu Okumura]]
Ah, that's right!

Actually, I've asked my secretary to get started
with help looking for a fiancé for Haru!

To find her a man of both impeccable provenance and ability,
someone I can safely trust to take care of Haru… yes, that's it.

I want to make things comfortable for Haru, and I can't wait to see her as a bride.

…of course, she's only five now, so I know I'm totally being an overly-doting parent.

[msg MSG_004_0_0 [Kunikazu Okumura]]
…I have to go now.
I can't cause trouble for the employees.

Dad and Akiko, will you please keep watching over me from now on?
You can at least do that much, right?

You both just left me behind and disappeared…
…It's been really hard for me so far.

I'm no expert but I translated it both with DeepL and word by word with a dictionary to get the right sense, so I'm fairly confident in this.

It's been stripped of functions of course but the blank lines still separate each piece of dialogue (since I've included new lines instead of [n])

[golden frost]

off the top of my head, p5 localization doesnt usually use full name in speaker label, and the general phrasing is machine translation awkward

but just knowing whats happening broadly is useful

[slow wren]

I tried to phrase it more naturally but yeah :/

It was initially much more awkward

[vital harbor]

it looks easy enough to clean up and sound more natural

I can go ahead and do so tomorrow if we're gonna use this

[slow wren]

Okumura as a character, particularly his past self, doesn’t exactly have a characteristic "voice"

[vital harbor]

I can come up with one based on what was said about him

I imagine he used to be a lot gentler especially reading this

(although he is sad here)

[slow wren]

I still wrote the sentences myself so it’s more noob at Japanese awkward

I guess some things can be worded more naturally. I try to think of someone talking at a grave but the stuff he says is clearly expository information

[golden frost]

fair lol

im tempted to take a crack at it but its almost 2am for me

[slow wren]

I feel like a decent amount of why they scrapped these scenes is they couldn’t come up with good ones for Kaneshiro lol
The point is we don’t really know him beyond that he's a mob boss, and it'd probably seem too sympathetic. Somewhat the case with Shido as well, though he has more to work with— I could imagine one of the scenes being him ditching Akechi's mom, but you only find out that’s who it was after Akechi's reveal.
Also Futaba's Palace basically has the same idea worked into it already with the murals.

[golden frost]

i mean idk that shortage of ideas was the issue, sae doesnt have them either and we basically already know her life story (and shes already a sympathetic character unlike 3/4 of the rulers who do have them)
i think they probably just werent allowed the dev time or there was some director decision or smth, and when they realized they just repurposed marukis and scuttled the rest

iirc royal started production basically as soon as og was done?

i could see futaba puzzles being retroactively tied to the seeds, or the "real" version of the events being shown at some point, had they done it

(as an aside btw, i feel like pointing out re:the maruki videotapes that rumi is minor id 40, while the others are basically in order across ids 10-30. which could mean nothing--)

[slow wren]

He is also special that instead of "grr you were poking around in my memories" the fourth scene is awakening to Azathoth

[golden frost]

but i feel like pointing out that one is minor id 30

depression drinking is 10 and sumire malpractice is 20

[slow wren]

It’s weird though because it wouldn’t make much sense without the Rumi scene first
It could just be an order of development thing…

[vital harbor]

sumire malpractice

[golden frost]

ive always gotten the vibe that they made an effort to soften maruki as dev went on so rumi mightve been conceived later

[slow wren]

actually though all the scenes, used or not, are clearly meant to be viewed in order, so what if you skipped an earlier seed

[slow wren]

She has a beta model leftover doesn’t she? I don’t remember exactly where it is

[golden frost]

tbh i was actually thinking of forcing them to always play in order in this mod, rather than event tied to specific seed
idk which would be easier though

[golden frost]

does she?

[golden frost]

am i wrong though B)

[slow wren]

pretty sure

I think it’s the same with different hair

https://www.deviantart.com/necroalx/art/Persona-5-Royal-BetaVersion-Rumi-FBX-XPS-844634319
someone converted it too

[vital harbor]

not at all

bro is a shit counseler

[vital harbor]

I would've preferred this tbh

[golden frost]

that...doesnt look like her to me but it could just be anime sameface

[vital harbor]

I don't really like rumi's final hair

I should go to bed

[golden frost]

go do that

pulls up amicitia wiki to see if theres any that could plausibly be that one
lmao, kawanabes given name is typod as akiko

[slow wren]

what did they mean by this

[slow wren]

I'd imagine probably it’s under the same ID as a different version/outfit?

[golden frost]

only listing i saw was final model

[slow wren]

But the wiki doesn’t list the variants right

see what the filename of the deviantart one is if you download it

[golden frost]

like honestly this deviantart page feels sus to me, they dont specify like...where in the game they found it, its just "this is a rumi model, heres some common model extraction tools none of which are for extracting from criware archives"

[golden frost]

amicitia just labels this as "female passerby"

4278

oh, i see, the textures have her name in them

i extracted from the game to compare and yep there they are

[runic mist]

remembered this

something fun to implement https://x.com/ScrambledFaz/status/1585273398376144901

Faz (@ScrambledFaz)

I managed to force Akechi to play 301 darts!
Doing this means you can have a small convo with Akechi before his "final" round!

Full video: https://t.co/h7EuvbHVi3

Credit to @Haalyle for discovering this

X · Oct 26, 2022, 2:13 PM

[tall lintel]

they're so homo

:3

[runic mist]

https://fixupx.com/ScrambledFaz/status/1387161057093881857

Faz (@ScrambledFaz)

In Persona 5 Royal, you were supposed to get Akechi's gloves as a key item in his rank 8.

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FixupX · Apr 27, 2021, 9:45 PM

[tall lintel]

does he actually take the glove off of does he just move his hand fast lol

[golden frost]

idle question, is it possible to change pt darts ai

id assume not but figure its worth asking

bc its mathematically possible to beat 701 in four turns, just not with akechi exclusively landing 50s

[vital harbor]

I planned on adding this. he'll play 501 after you fail a couple times

[vital harbor]

I wonder if it was like the other confidant items

[clear gazelle]

There is a weird glove/hand item in the EVT, so idk the exact timing but he does remove something there....

[sick ice]

Bro only goes for three bullseye instead of three triple 20's smh

[vital harbor]

I wanna come up with some fun dialogue for this lol

"Are you that incompetent? Fine, we'll play 501. Don't disappoint me."

ok mister

for princekechi...

"I'm a bit surprised. Can you not rise to the challenge? We can play 501, but next time, don't disappoint."

[vital harbor]

not me replying to the wrong message

[slow wren]

It is, and it literally still works in NG+ if you mod it in. Sumi and Maruki have one too.
That said, I'm 90% sure that despite Joker having the glove already, you’re supposed to obtain the item when he remembers he has it after talking to Muhen on 3/19.

[vital harbor]

oh yeah that's right

doesn't that actually happen? or am I misremembering

[slow wren]

Nope

[vital harbor]

mmm

alright we'll add Maruki, sumire, and akechi key items to the list

[slow wren]

We were discussing this earlier, maybe it was before this became a thread
Shibusawa is already in Kichijoji on 3/19 and probably would have given Maruki's item. Ocean said there's an unused field NPC for Hiraguchi who presumable would have given Sumire's, but we'd have to implement that ourselves.

[slow wren]

I think there should be another tab for additions like this that aren’t just events

[vital harbor]

well it's called royal restoration now so

[slow wren]

I meant for organizational purposes

[vital harbor]

but yeah it'll be another category in the config

[vital harbor]

last part shouldn't be too hard

[slow wren]

idk if there's dialogue for her existing or not
Probably not

[golden frost]

oh yeah, prob because if you can get it when event actually happens then you could carry it over in bad end ng+

[golden frost]

i did not say that i said there was a switch mod that added a hiraguchi npc

[golden frost]

i love scope creep!!
/s

[slow wren]

whoops I misunderstood mb

[vital harbor]

a little here and there isn't so bad...

[vital harbor]

I suppose we could make some up? but atp that's not restoration lol

also if we want full jp support someone will have to translate that

[golden frost]

admittedly id be surprised if we did have full jp support but i guess the chance of an event having text in english but not japanese is p out there

[viral sail]

hey guys

[slow wren]

Hiraguchi: DUMMY TEXT
Gymnastics Baton x1

[vital harbor]

real

same energy as gay joker's items being fucked and me getting RESERVE from ryuji

thanks ryuji very thoughtful

[slow wren]

Actually this reminds me
There's an unused item called "Key to Leblanc"
I doubt it does anything but just for fun we could throw it into the event where Sojiro gives you the key

[slow wren]

The riddle here is how this made it past QA (hint: there is none)

[vital harbor]

yeah that sounds fun

[tall lintel]

key to leblanc sounds like it'd be during the event where sojiro literally says "here's the keys. i'm tired of waiting for you to come home" or whatever he says

[vital harbor]

it gives more context to being able to leave LeBlanc at night and stuff

[vital harbor]

yeah that's what bub said

[tall lintel]

i can read