to what extent? models? anims? timelines? ui?
#P5X Model Exporting
random hornet
torn kindle
just models their textures and anims
torn kindle
to what extent? models? anims? timelines? ui?
oops so sorry hope you haven't started yet i meant anims not ui, i', currently dumping some bundles and ig i read ui and my brain just died ๐ญ
random hornet
oops so sorry hope you haven't started yet i meant anims not ui, i', currently d...
the file too big for discord ๐ญ
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rLLgfCNS4OA1ezKdmxqdNzSJKWfZZC5z/view?usp=drive_link
oh wait their personas arent in here ill fix tht
fixd
random hornet
didnt include timelines but theyre mostly named appopriately, either tl_<charactername>, tl_p3r, or tl_assist bundles have the timelines for p3r chars
restive basalt
if they don't that's good for me since that means i'm done making outlines
I did end up resolving the face thing
delete all this, merge the vertices of the duplicate mesh and there we go it's functional
torn kindle
the file too big for discord ๐ญ
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rLLgfCNS4OA1ezK...
THANK YOU SO MUCH
restive basalt
do the models even use outlines for the hair
@random hornet sorry to bug you like this
Just curious about this because no hair outline will save me a lot of time today when I finally get to make a render I wanted to get to start yesterday (vut had to put on hold due to outline struggles)
random hornet
do the models even use outlines for the hair
they do
spiral pendant
they have vertex colors on them so I'd assume so
random hornet
yeah ik wonder does. the vert colors have black on the tips of the hair and red everywhere else
zinc dirge
Does Yui have stroke texture?
restive basalt
they do
What should I do...
I can get away with none in the render because of the lighting but yeah ๐ญ
When I turn the shapekey off it does this
When it's on, it's a normal shapekey
Neither model has vertex colors because: 1. These bangs were made before the script, so from an obj file and 2. The back of the hair is Akane from Strikers
spiral pendant
random question, but are you using Eevee Next?
restive basalt
No, I am married to 3.6
spiral pendant
ah
I was gonna say maybe you need to disable shadows on the outline material so it's not affecting the lighting of the actual hair, but I'm pretty sure that's only an Eevee Next thing
restive basalt
Well the outline is a mesh but yeah
It doesn't do it on anything but the hair
The dark brown is the dotstroke i made
I can't merge the verts on the outline because for some reason it breaks it real bad
But it works just fine unmerged
I'm debating just using outline helper, but I can't address any clipping with that
I could also just delete the outline shapekey and see what happens
spiral pendant
Well the outline is a mesh but yeah
It doesn't do it on anything but the hair
Th...
Well yeah, it should have a material for it. Especially if you're trying to incorporate those stroke textures for it
random hornet
When I turn the shapekey off it does this
well the shapekey doesnt remove the geometry it just moves it into the geometry
stacked geometry can cause rendering issues on eevee
how are you doing backface culling, through the material option?
restive basalt
Yes
And i inverted the normals
If you uncheck backface culling and do alpha blend, same results
spiral pendant
honestly, I'm not really understanding the reasoning behind the shapekey here. if you want an outline that you can turn off, you can easily do that with any of the modifier methods as well. doesn't have to be GeometryNodes either if you don't have vertex colors/don't want to set them up
and those would actually just hide them as opposed to moving it inside the geometry
random hornet
also technically non destructive
restive basalt
honestly, I'm not really understanding the reasoning behind the shapekey here. i...
I can't fix clipping with a modifier
spiral pendant
sure you can
you can just assign the outline to a vertex group and weight paint with like Add/Subtract
I've not really messed with it myself, but I'm sure you could so something similar in vertex paint if you're doing the GeometryNodes method
restive basalt
I'm not
As I said, the hair doesn't have any
The bangs are from irl Vino, but they came before the script was made
And the back of the hair is from Akane from Strikers
restive basalt
what happens with solidfy
it only makes it look like she has more shadows in her hair
it appears the bangs don't wanna cooperate like the back of the hair
how does vertex paint even work 
random hornet
did you make a new vertex group first
restive basalt
what color should i make it? just black?
restive basalt
shift + k
hmmm on wonder you did the duplicate mesh
her...bangs disappeared when I used your node setup
was there some stuff i was supposed to plug in?
i also added that geometry node modifier
random hornet
plug attribute into seperate xyz
and plug the join geometry to the group output
the greater than there is not necessary idk why i had it there
restive basalt
there we go
random hornet
altho ive changed it a bit since, specifically the set material part. it didnt handle parts that use multiple materials like the face well
restive basalt
do I duplicate the meshes for the outline and just put what you did for wonder?
random hornet
you shouldnt need to dupe anything
restive basalt
hm
random hornet
just make the whole mesh red in vertex paint
restive basalt
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do you have the updated blend?
random hornet
oh yeah i added an input to the geo nodes to set the width but thats not necessary
restive basalt
is there anything I need to plug in?
there's two nodes floating around, not plugged into anything
random hornet
where
oh yeah theres a corners of face floating in the geo nodes oops, that shouldnt need to be used
restive basalt
yeah, named attribute and corners of face
restive basalt
i meant value oops
restive basalt
yeah
restive basalt
wonder is still showing an outline material hm
random hornet
what do the geo nodes look like
restive basalt
although it may be smart to remove the merge by distance in this face
when I merged vertices in other methods, it broke the poor outline mesh
hmmm no notable changes
with or without backface culling on (when I deleted the merge geometry)
restive basalt
this is what happens when that is hooked up
random hornet
you can also directly import node groups from other blend files using File > Append
you select the other blend file then nodetree
restive basalt
the one called outline, right?
random hornet
yeah
then select that node group on the modifier
it seems like ur models scale is small so you might need to adjust outline width
also something i noticed p5x does is it makes the outlines thicker if the camera is further away which is odd
restive basalt
it seems like ur models scale is small so you might need to adjust outline width
wdym
it's bigger than imported wonder
restive basalt
without the merge distance removed
it looks like it still displays as black even when it is removed
random hornet
the current node group looks like this
the blend file should only have 1 node group in it
restive basalt
random hornet
there
restive basalt
no change
random hornet
hm
restive basalt
i mean, I can send you the blend
random hornet
does your material have backface culling
restive basalt
yes
random hornet
yeah send me the blend ig
random hornet
the p5x shader is also the old one
restive basalt
they're just there from before you sent me the new one
random hornet
oh i think part of the problem is
my node groups dont import correctly on 3.6 because i made them on 4.5
thats alright tho
also it cant find the color attribute but thats because i poorly designed it
restive basalt
RIP ๐
I prefer to use 3.6, honestly
But don't force yourself to accomodate if you don't want to
random hornet
oh i see the problem
3.6 has a bug where uv maps get lost when using join geometry on geo nodes
at least thats how it seems im not sure
why does your bangs have like 5 different uv maps
ok that was it, removing all the other uv maps now it works
i made a few other changes like removing the duplicated geometry
restive basalt
3.6 has a bug where uv maps get lost when using join geometry on geo nodes
at le...
Interesting
restive basalt
why does your bangs have like 5 different uv maps
Nooooo clue
That is pretty much from the obj file
random hornet
oh wait you said these were from p5s?
restive basalt
I made it by taking one half of irl vino's bangs, flipped it, and then joined the pieces
The back of the hair is from Akane (P5S)
At a later date apricothere fixed the normals on the bangs since ig they were messed up
The specular map for Akane's hair was custom made since the highlights for her hair are in the original texture
after removing UVs + backface culling
how do I plugin the store named attribute if there's two?
random hornet
theyre correct
restive basalt
you said you removed merge duplicated geometry
random hornet
yeah
restive basalt
which i did but it looks like this
random hornet
i didnt delete the join geometry node
restive basalt
ahhh
huh
i wonder why it isn't showing up
unless the color attribute color isn't dark enough
Hmmm
Darkening it made no difference
random hornet
which i did but it looks like this
restive basalt
that's so bizarre
i tried editing the one i sent you to match
the only difference is that i don't have the shader applied
random hornet
well i had to do a lot to get it to work
delete all the outline meshes, apply scale of all parts, remove excess uv maps, and use the shader on all the materials
oh and add vertex colors to everything
and name them in a way the geo nodes group expects
restive basalt
delete all the outline meshes, apply scale of all parts, remove excess uv maps, ...
there are no outline meshes (for the hair at least)
random hornet
this is what i mean when i described it as destructive
restive basalt
as in lots of work or
i still have a save before I made any outlines
am I just going to have to open this in 4.5 to even work
like
fix it in 4.5
random hornet
i used 3.6
restive basalt
no, i know
but you said there was a bug in 3.6
random hornet
oh it just had to do with multiple uv maps
just remove the extra uv maps from the hair
keep the first one
restive basalt
What would I do for characters that didn't export with color attributes?
Obviously they aren't all one color
random hornet
what character doesnt export with color attributes?
a lot of npcs dont because they have a constant outline thickness
restive basalt
what character doesnt export with color attributes?
Katayama
Idk about Akashi since I haven't looked at him
restive basalt
Idk ig I missed something
I'm pretty sure I didn't miss anything, mesh prefab wise
I usually leave stuff like animations out
Because after Viola, I have to do outlines for Katayama
restive basalt
oh then yeah she definitely should have vertex colors
okay this time I literally loaded all asset and bundle dependencies but she is not exporting with color attribute
although if there's any positives, this build didn't have her boob moving with her head
restive basalt
@random hornet do you think if I separated Katayama into pieces by color (such as skin, hair, the different parts, etc) and did vertex paint and each and then joined the pieces bsck together that i'd have multiple color attributes ๐ค
spiral pendant
so for the purposes of ripping characters into P5, is there a way to rip weapons/guns separately in Unity without breaking anything?
restive basalt
I don't think weapons have bones? Idek if they have vertex groups
I think i remember seeing an item bone in a character's hanx
spiral pendant
Riko's do, although idk why because it doesn't look like those bones move in any of her animations
spiral pendant
okay I guess just importing them separately in Unity works
random hornet
I don't think weapons have bones? Idek if they have vertex groups
I *think* i re...
some weapons do some dont
if the prefab is called bs_ or wq_ at the start then it has its own skeleton
zinc dirge
Chords persona is ps_calliope.prefab yeah?
random hornet
Chords persona is ps_calliope.prefab yeah?
ps_calliopei.prefab
random hornet
he so wide
restive basalt
Oooo we got image previews now? ๐
zinc dirge
ps_calliopei.prefab
Interesting so they removed the I in game?
restive basalt
It's more like sometimes they spell the personas names slightly wrong
The same happened for Berry's and Vino's
zinc dirge
Ah true
zinc dirge
I've noticed chord has a silk_mask texture I wonder what it's for
zinc dirge
Someone here has export all the textures yeah?
restive basalt
I mean, I have a dump of Taiwan when the first part of the summer update dropped
It's also easy grabbing some textures from p5x-theories model drive
zinc dirge
P5x theories model drive?
restive basalt
Yup
random hornet
I've noticed chord has a silk_mask texture I wonder what it's for
hm, her body uses a unique shader called role_stockings so maybe its a mask for her stockings
spiral pendant
they do a lot of weird stuff for stockings I've noticed
and it doesn't even seem consistent from character to character
restive basalt
Things change over time, so consistency is iffy sometimes
The reason why some are different from others is likely due to 'if it's not broken, don't fix it'
It may be older, but if it still works, no need to update it
If something is about to get a lot of attention, the developers narrow in on updating certain things. Usually it's textures. Musubi's model had older textures and baked shadows, but when her confidant dropped, they updated the textures
Same with katayama
spiral pendant
sure but I'm talking about inconsistency between playable characters lol
random hornet
for some reason all of the p3r characters use Key's (Kurotani) assets as placeholders for assets they don't need
like mask image or bullet image
zinc dirge
hm, her body uses a unique shader called role_stockings so maybe its a mask for ...
It's a shader? Not a texture?
random hornet
wdym
zinc dirge
Maybe I just misunderstood
Is there a matcap or something for the silk mask texture that chord uses or do they have a specific shader they used for her that uses the mask texture
restive basalt
do the p5 collab palaces have prefixes like the main palaces do?
if so, which one is the one for futaba's palace
restive basalt
Cool, thanks!!
Somebody on p5x worldwide is asking about those murals so I figured i'd look since somebody already asked me to fetch Riko's Global/JP sprites
restive basalt
So uhhh anybody mind helping me get the parts for riko's global/jp sprites
For some reason my computer, after the game updated, decided it wanted to crash on me twice for funsies when I tried loading the bundles
And it's just with global
zinc dirge
I don't have global or JP "ready" for file searching
restive basalt
Well, anyone in general works
zinc dirge
I've got tiwan idk if that has what your looking for
zinc dirge
I've ran into my own issues Chord doesn't wanna export with her blend shapes
restive basalt
if nothing else, I think Spriter's Resource has P5X stuff
Nope
They only have the og sprites
restive basalt
I've got tiwan idk if that has what your looking for
It doesn't
Global and JP's Riko portraits are an updated version of her og sprites
The ones on the left are in the og servers while the right is exclusive to global and jp (and SEA)
torn kindle
restive basalt
Morty please I need your help ๐ญ
torn kindle
im working rn
torn kindle
i mean work loosly i have a deadline for this sponsor i need to meet for tommorow and i've been ill so i haven't been doing it
so im locking in
restive basalt
so im locking in
could you do it afterwards? (if you don't mind)
and if you find the json for the sprite
so I could also run it through chainner
spiral pendant
I wonder, would it be possible to do something with the whole import/export process to separate all the unrigged bones?
random hornet
could you do it afterwards? (if you don't mind)
and if you find the json for the...
what json are you talking abt
restive basalt
the json for Riko's global sprite
restive basalt
random hornet
ohh that
restive basalt
yup
i learned how to do it because I am too obsessed with this man
although the gradient is probs off since it looks more flat here
nerd glasses
random hornet
oh ic
restive basalt
katayama โค๏ธ ....
yeah I'm trying to get that and global riko sprites
specifically global
random hornet
so what u need the pngs and the json files
random hornet
alr
restive basalt
For some reason my computer, after the game updated, decided it wanted to crash ...
this
restive basalt
yes!! thank you
random hornet
for some reason global and cn use a different matparam for her metaverse outfit
in cn it has its own matparam, UI-DialogShader-guaidao01-lizi. in global it uses the same as normal, UI-DialogShader-changfu01-lizi
swimsuit also has its own, UI-DialogShader-yongzhuang-lizi.json
random hornet
nah that one has its own
UI-DialogShader-guaidao01-lizi-weiyang
global references it but the file doesnt exist yet
random hornet
sometimes instead of shortening reload to P3R, some files shorten it to PTR
which is sillly
restive basalt
tha's certainly a silly choice ๐ญ
restive basalt
global references it but the file doesnt exist yet
interesting
it not being in the game yet doesn't surprise me
we won't be getting that event until the final story update for chapter 3
random hornet
since global is a mismash of versions it has a lot of files it references that dont exist
or even missing bundle dependencies
restive basalt
swimsuit also has its own, `UI-DialogShader-yongzhuang-lizi.json`
which do i used the common none on
random hornet
none of them use it
restive basalt
Then does that mean the non-swimsuit one is for her regular and metaverse sprites?
random hornet
yeah
for all layers
altho different layers can use different gradients
i.e merope uses common none on her hair layer
restive basalt
i'm using the automated chainner project morty made
random hornet
hm im not sure how that works
restive basalt
so i only need to input the pics and it does the rest of the work
random hornet
well different layers can use different gradients
@torn kindle does your tool account for this kinda stuff
i can give more data to make it even more accurate if u want
restive basalt
Morty out cold by now
he's in the ol UK
yeah idk if this was the right gradient
with common-none
random hornet
hm
restive basalt
fringe kite
don't they have a butt bone to fix this exact issue
this is better than scale method since it'll preserve areas that are meant to have thinner outlines like on the hair
restive basalt
Mayumi spotted
random hornet
wide hours
restive basalt
It's clipping through his face ๐
restive basalt
wide hours
Rip ryuji
random hornet
restive basalt
Does Makoto's sprite already have a gradient?
restive basalt
Filtering what?
random hornet
i dont apply the gradient from the dialog shader params
restive basalt
Oh?
What i did was use a python script Dwine made a couple years ago for Morty's mod
It takes info from the json and generates an image gradient to use
Also I noticed something interesting
Katayama's battle doesn't use the regular 'Rage Education'
It sounds like they mixed Rage Education and Rule Breaker into a unique theme
The song we hear in the battle is in the files ofc
It just comes across as a sort of odd choice
We have both songs, separate on the ost
With Rage Education seemingly being the theme for the battle but the in game version is more a mix of the two songs
random hornet
oke yeah the "headMask" doesnt get a mat param at all
zinc dirge
What's the file names with blend shapes again?
random hornet
x_face_wholeexport_rig_bs (i.e panther_uniform_face_wholeexport_rig_bs.prefab
no way
the character shader directly refers to the outline as "GenshinOutline"
restive basalt
what ๐ญ
zinc dirge
That's crazy
zinc dirge
x_face_wholeexport_rig_bs (i.e `panther_uniform_face_wholeexport_rig_bs.prefab`
Weird idk if something is wrong but chord doesn't have any blend shapes
zinc dirge
Alright I'm losing my mind
Okay so I have both Chord and Okyann who don't hate blend shapes in their BS
restive basalt
did you look for all dependencies and everything? as a double-check
zinc dirge
Yeah idk if ik missing something or what
If someone could help me I would appreciate it
random hornet
check if they have a uniform face with blendshapes
zinc dirge
So I have Okyann_thief_head_wholeexport_rig_bs_okyann_uniform_face which doesn't have the blend shapes
zinc dirge
check if they have a uniform face with blendshapes
Is there another one?
restive basalt
I wonder if they share a face model
Seems unlikely but who knows
Katayama's shadow doesn't seem like it shares a face with regular katayama, but it does
Probably the eyeliner look? And the slight difference in eyelash appearance
zinc dirge
Okay so I must be doing something wrong Chord Okyann and Riddle BS files don't have blend shapes
spiral pendant
do you have Export blendshape turned off in Assetstudio's export options?
zinc dirge
It's unity
spiral pendant
try doing the build method then if exporting them through Unity isn't working I guess
zinc dirge
It's importing them to unity
random hornet
so close yet so far, too yellow
random hornet
yeah
zinc dirge
Have you tried getting character shaders is that possible with what you're setting up?
zinc dirge
Hm that's a shame
random hornet
so close yet so far, too yellow
also for some reason 3d migoto's shader decompiler breaks the dialog shader so im kinda having to guess a bit
im not sure which section it broke and why its broken
zinc dirge
Messa's file names I've tried doctor_thief and doctor_normal
Looking for body and head
Nvm
I have still having blend shape issues trying to find the ones that actually have blend shapes
Sorry lemme rephrase does Chord and Okyann use the same face for their normal models
zinc dirge
Hm than why does her thief face BS refuse to give me blend shapes
zinc dirge
What's messa's head file name
zinc dirge
I've tried both thief and normal
random hornet
What's messa's head file name
should be doctor_normal_face_wholeexport_rig.prefab (or doctor_normal_face_wholeexport_rig_bs.prefab for blendshapes)
restive basalt
I just wish everytime you tried to rip the game's shader that it wouldn't fail ๐
random hornet
oh yeah assetrippers didn't work but i found something on github that at least gives an output, called "USCSandbox"
its not a functional output but its something
restive basalt
How did it output?
random hornet
this gigantic file
imported in unity gives a bunch of syntax errors and resolving all of them just showed as all black in the editor
restive basalt
Oh wow
Idek what i'd do with it
But a file like that is openable in unity, right? 
Oops
I see
restive basalt
Hmmmm
Surely there must be some way to dump it in a functional manner
random hornet
yippee
spiral pendant
what this ๐
spiral pendant
idk if anyone ever answered, but would there be a more accurate way to have the unrigged bones in the models separated somewhere during the import/export process? Just curious because manually going through them in Blender is a little tedious and obviously having the empties there wasn't exactly foolproof either
random hornet
blender has a flag to set whether a bone is deforming or not but idk if imports have that set
could prob do it in a python script
spiral pendant
I wonder if that's what resulted in some of the actual bones getting tagged as empties initially
spiral pendant
I know there are bones that I imagine have to be used that don't get that Deform tag though
random hornet
odd
spiral pendant
like I know Kotone's thief model, her mask is rigged to the root_megane bone but that bone doesn't have the Deform tag by default
idk if that's just some weird quirk with the masks because they seem to have a lot of weirdness in general or what
random hornet
well masks are weird because
they're attached in code
at runtime
idk its weird
same with some characters guns
or weapons
spiral pendant
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do the characters ever appear without their masks on or something? That's the only reason I could think of to do something like that
even then, just scale the thing down or something lol
random hornet
well they have a fade effect
but i don't think thats why theyre separated the way they are
spiral pendant
I'd assume that's just material animation since that's what P5R does
spiral pendant
could prob do it in a python script
there's also stuff like the root/Bip01 bone that doesn't have the Deform tag either
spiral pendant
yeah, just something else I noticed that wouldn't really make that entirely foolproof either
random hornet
well ig a simple rule would be remove bones that are both: non deforming and dont have deforming children
zinc dirge
Did we ever figure out what those weird face Matcaps are for
random hornet
which ones
if you mean the left to right black to white thats how the game does shading on faces
it uses it to flatten the shading and add self shadowing
zinc dirge
2?
zinc dirge
What do you mean different mapping?
spiral pendant
I have to wonder how much of this is even noticeable in-game
sure seems like a lot of their extra texture maps and such are extremely subtle
random hornet
these at least are pretty noticible if you're looking for it
zinc dirge
Do eyes have outlines
random hornet
they do not
zinc dirge
Okay I think I almost got Bui as perfect as I can with poiyomi
spiral pendant
when it comes to faces, eyes and mouths are almost always masked off for outlines
random hornet
does poiyomi let you use color attribute for outline width
zinc dirge
vertex color
zinc dirge
it also has a rendering mode for SDF texture for faces
random hornet
technically p5x changes the outline width based on camera distance but thats not really necessary
zinc dirge
It's just dark textures i don't know if I can use but I also just don't understand what it's for
zinc dirge
technically p5x changes the outline width based on camera distance but thats not...
Can't really do that as it's first person anyway lol
random hornet
yeah instead of just darkening the color by the lighting the game fades between the bright and dark color
i dont think they do anything you cant emulate pretty accurately without it tho
zinc dirge
Just gotta wait for the real shader lol
spiral pendant
does poiyomi let you use color attribute for outline width
Is that how the vertex colors work?
random hornet
yeah the red channel is the outline width multiplier
and then the material defines its own outline width, most do 0.002
random hornet
wait no the material has 2 outline widths
i assume a minimum outline size and maximum outline size
zinc dirge
idk maybe I can plug it into one of these lol the dark texture
Oh what about the ramp texture
random hornet
you should be able to use the texture ramp option in poiyomi
and then drag the ramp in that slot
i think not having a dark color saves on vram anyway so is fine
spiral pendant
also just mildly curious since I was looking at that shader test thing again. Is there any particular reason you use Separate XYZ instead of Separate Color?
random hornet
no, no reason
zinc dirge
if I use ramp this happens
random hornet
what are your settings
zinc dirge
Do weapons have outlines
spiral pendant
they have stroke textures, so I'd assume so
zinc dirge
Do they?
Actually do OG characters have stroke cuz I haven't seen them for Bui Rin Soy and Moko
spiral pendant
probably just missing something, I've seen them for every character I've ripped so far
spiral pendant
Kotone, Merope, Riko, Yui, and the P5/P3R characters
zinc dirge
You have Yui? is it sp yui or og?
spiral pendant
just her normal outfit I believe
zinc dirge
Hm
restive basalt
you ever find out anything concrete on the `pk` textures?
physics based rendering texture
spiral pendant
yeah I know, but I was curious what the channels specifically do
could never figure out blue especially from what I was messing around with, but the metallic/roughness look seemed super subtle so I was curious about that
random hornet
iirc
red - shadow/AO
green - smoothness
blue - metallic
spiral pendant
wait blue is metallic? ๐
random hornet
wait no
red - metallic
green - smoothness
blue - brightness/AO
i got it backwards
restive basalt
Dwine figured it out first a while back but yeah
X - Red
Y - Green
Z - Blue
^
|
for separate XYZ
spiral pendant
what does "smoothness" mean then?
zinc dirge
Roughness I believe
zinc dirge
Wait the eyelids aren't black?
spiral pendant
wdym?
zinc dirge
I thought they where a transparent black but I got a eyelid material and it's a dark blue transparent
zinc dirge
Rin
spiral pendant
weird
zinc dirge
Ik
Which leads me to my next question how difficult is it to data transfer blend shapes lol
spiral pendant
why you trying to data transfer them?
zinc dirge
Um okay I need to back up Rin is not exporting properly at all for me
Can someone try exporting Rin with animations please idk if it's just me or she just messed
spiral pendant
anybody have a clue what marian_weiqun is used for? just looks like some outfit with an apron but I do not remember ever seeing it either during any of my time playing the game or like any other material of the character out there
it's not even on the megaten wiki
restive basalt
anybody have a clue what `marian_weiqun` is used for? just looks like some outfi...
It's her when she's working
To be precise, when she's working in the izakaya her father runs
It's likely in there for whenever it needs to get used
Marian shows up in her side quest, the chinese new year event, the second summer event (albeit in a swimsuit), and her confidant
spiral pendant
weird, I looked through like every video of her I could find and didn't see it at all
spiral pendant
even then, just scale the thing down or something lol
okay I'm dumb, I forgot they appeared without their masks in the Thieves menu
still doesn't really explain why they're separated the way they are though. I've been really confused because some of them don't even seem to have their own Animators but are still separated in a different role bundle
restive basalt
weird, I looked through like every video of her I could find and didn't see it a...
Like I said, it probs is just there for whenever they need to use it
Did you check only global content?
Unfortunately i think you'll be hardpressed on finding confidant footage (on YT at least)
zinc dirge
Does anyone have riddles 5 star weapon in game I don't have it and I need to see what it looks like and I've tried looking online for pictures but for whatever reason I can't find any
restive basalt
it should be under the id of 'why' i believe? and usually weapons have weapon in the name
random hornet
Does anyone have riddles 5 star weapon in game I don't have it and I need to see...
why_weapon_05_wholeexport_rig.prefab
the naming of guns matching the style of weapons makes me wonder if they had planned at some point to have different equippable guns. specifically the part where the weapon has the star rarity in its name
zinc dirge
I need a screenshot of it in game
zinc dirge
the naming of guns matching the style of weapons makes me wonder if they had pla...
I was wondering that as well
zinc dirge
Where are the player.logs located again?
random hornet
%userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\SEGA\p5x_en
zinc dirge
So I was able to get the whole companio unity file
random hornet
thats somethin
spiral pendant
๐ฐ
restive basalt
thats somethin
!?
random hornet
ive had a bug in my filesystem this entire time and nobody tol me??? smh
if a file is at the very beginning of an fb chunk, the offset is not encoded in the file index
i kid, its a very small bug i only ran into with one of jokers shared bundles
fixed the python script
restive basalt
if a file is at the very beginning of an fb chunk, the offset is not encoded in ...
Wdym?
random hornet
basically a few bundles didnt extract correctly when doing it via the python script
restive basalt
Ahhh
I thought it was something bigger
I'm surprised you have 3d previews working now tho
Since you were talking about how you'd have to jump through some unity hoops to get model previews
random hornet
well those hoops have mostly been hooped
my model loading is still broken tho
a lot of faces are missing
random hornet
thats somethin
little better
random hornet
i only just realized all the p5x thieves have an A pose and the p5 and p3r chars have a T pose
zinc dirge
The P5 and P3R are the models from Atlus yeah?
spiral pendant
I don't think they use any models from Atlus like that
They might've used them as a reference, and I believe at one point the P5 characters were just using their P5R models, but they've significantly remodeled and retextured them since
Pretty sure the same goes for the P3R models
zinc dirge
Hm I was gonna say maybe there in a T pose because it's Atlus and A pose cuz it's black wing every studio does things differently
zinc dirge
Oh yeah can someone let me know what file messa's hair is in I can't find it
restive basalt
i only just realized all the p5x thieves have an A pose and the p5 and p3r chars...
Well, yeah
They got them straight from the game
As for p5x thieves, there's rare occassions (spl?) of T-poses. One being Kotone, as mentioned. Two other confirmed ones are Haruna and Sumi's (Toshiya) casual. Masaki's casual used to be T-posed when he first dropped, but that changed at a later point
Musubi is T-posed
restive basalt
Pretty sure the same goes for the P3R models
No, it's the Reload models
Mudkip and another modeler have checked
All they did was bump the poly count a bit, add a few bones, and re-textured it to fit the p5x style
restive basalt
Well, yeah
They got them straight from the game
As for p5x thieves, there's rare...
I believe Haruna thief is also T-posed
zinc dirge
She is
zinc dirge
Can some one check if Riddles 5 star weapon has a mask2 or something
I'm trying to figure out how they did the scrolling on just the blade
restive basalt
@random hornet what prefabs do each yui model use? (Musubi, metaverse, mmo, and new nuke alt)
Excluding the mmo yui from global
They updated the model in CN when Musibi confidant dropped, while global has the old one
After
Before
random hornet
should be bui_uniform for her game outfit
restive basalt
because a person i talked to said that there's bui_unreal and bui_uniform
so i'm a little unsure which is the old and which is the new
i think unreal is the old
spiral pendant
i think unreal is the old
isn't unreal like the virtual game thing
restive basalt
oh, really? i thought it was unreal as well
restive basalt
should be bui_uniform for her game outfit
What about her recent nuke alt?
random hornet
bui_sp
fringe kite
The P5 and P3R are the models from Atlus yeah?
they're remodeled based on the original ones, likely so they could reuse animations
fringe kite
this'll probably break the tools for deobfuscating/extracting files https://x.com/Persona5X_News/status/1990704555454333209
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Tweet โข Persona5X_News โข FxTwitter
random hornet
we'll see
random hornet
just gotta wait until november 19th 10 pm est
zinc dirge
Monts rig is really something interesting
spiral pendant
that's a word for it
restive basalt
Monts rig is really something interesting
I'm gonna guess it's broken as hell
random hornet
just gotta wait until november 19th 10 pm est
it seems like what they did is compress the lua scripts or something
so asset extracting should be fine
but idk for sure
random hornet
yeah they brought the partial downloading from mobile into the pc client
so yeah you have to open the game and wait for it to download everything after updating your client
the option in the top right forces a full download of all assets
almost everything is in OuterPackage now, the base game is very small
restive basalt
So from now on we have to extract both with each update?
zinc dirge
I'm gonna guess it's broken as hell
I don't wanna say broken maybe she was rigged like that but also idk
restive basalt
When in doubt, you can ask Morty
He has Mont from the beta before this script even came out (back from when the mod project started)
So he could give you the yay or nay
zinc dirge
I found another ramp texture
restive basalt
I just kinda wonder if there's any way to apply these ramp textures, mask textures, and what I assume are matcaps? In blender
It's just a shame that some of these cool effects are locked behind another program for one reason or another
zinc dirge
There definitely is but I'm not smart enough to know
restive basalt
Neither am i ๐ฅด
Is the matcap even possible tho? I could swear matcaps are a unity thing
random hornet
you can apply matcaps in the blender shader editor
restive basalt
you can apply matcaps in the blender shader editor
I'm not sure what kind of node layout tho
Maybe I can play with your shade test and see if I can implement pk textures
Long shot, but i'll try
zinc dirge
What file is Winds swing in
zinc dirge
What's her persona
Okay so yeah it's the personas weapon
Tho I remember it showing up without the kite maybe i'm misremembering or what
restive basalt
What's her persona
Probably already too late to this, but her persona is Chiyome
The kite/plane there is also what guides Riko through the palace until she reaches the team and later awakens fully
zinc dirge
I remember that but I swear she's seen on the swing without the kite I wonder if it's rigged to shrink of of them
restive basalt
It may be used in a scene where the kite/plane is out of sight from the player
zinc dirge
Alright so I figured out how to keep the rig unchanged and use the animations
Besides changing the shoulders to the spine and not the neck but that doesn't cause any issues
zinc dirge
Does wind have a normal map for her hair
restive basalt
yeah they brought the partial downloading from mobile into the pc client
How do you reach that menu when you can't acces CN beyond the title screen
random hornet
it seems like what they did is compress the lua scripts or something
well they added potential support to compress them in the future, but they arent compressed just a bit odd
id be very surprised if at least the script changes didnt make it to global soon
restive basalt
Since they're showing update pics for Masaki and Haru, it looks like they're lumping them together in the same patch
But definitely don't worry about Masaki
He goes straight to the standard banner on the update after
random hornet
๐ญ
random hornet
oh but yea i finishd reversing the Lua_ifiles so now i can read lua scripts in the cn version again
restive basalt
๐ฟ
random hornet
idk if im misremembering but this seems bigger
or not as much a savings as they said
restive basalt
So...how are things gonna be moving forward then?
random hornet
basically the same as before, just that now the bin folder has very few assets
basically just wonder, cattle, joker
restive basalt
But which do we use now? We have that script Sereno made that was typically used for getting rid of the pesky dummy ecryption
restive basalt
And since the fileindex we use to access for everything is so small now, how to we extract everything?
DC's thing specifically reads the fileindex where almost all the stuff used to be
random hornet
well just read the bundles in outerpackage
besides the obfus offset they have no real problem being read
you can also extract individual bundles with the python script still
spiral pendant
Does wind have a normal map for her hair
no
"fun" thing I've noticed while ripping characters from this game, sometimes they just seem to be missing texture maps at random
her swimsuit hair also doesn't have a shadow map
restive basalt
her swimsuit hair also doesn't have a shadow map
Unfortunately ๐
restive basalt
"fun" thing I've noticed while ripping characters from this game, sometimes they...
I've noticed that as well
spiral pendant
those texture maps can't be too important if they just decide not to make them sometimes
lofty wolf
basically the same as before, just that now the bin folder has very few assets
Oh shit...
Does that mean... We're back to where we were before because of the client update?
random hornet
it shouldnt impact asset extraction at all
just make sure to open the game, and go to the downloads section and hit the download all button in the top right
which should download all the necessary subpackages into outerpackage
random hornet
thanks p5x devs for the descriptive properties "Param1" and "Param2"
zinc dirge
What's Key's persona name
random hornet
What's Key's persona name
syce
zinc dirge
Why can't they just keep the spelling consistent
restive basalt
romanization, that's why
restive basalt
hey aaron, would this shift in file organization mess with your program? you said it reads from the fileindex where everything used to be stored
restive basalt
ohhhh okay
that makes sense
seeing as update files used to get added to outerpackage in the past
restive basalt
Remember kids, if you love yourself you won't make a p5x meshmod
(I'm re-painting the bangs by hand)
restive basalt
hey aaron, you mentioned one of the characters still left in fileindex is Wonder
is it just a few models or all his models?
i'm including outfits he can wear
random hornet
oh i think i was wrong on tht
the only things in fileindex are like item sprites and menu and update screen assets
theres so few bundles u can easily just load them all
restive basalt
ahhh
storm cloak
besides the obfus offset they have no real problem being read
this has existed since forever!
https://github.com/DeathChaos25/P5XBundleDeobfuscate
(and then got repurposed into the file content extractor)
random hornet
peak obfuscation method 
random hornet
this has existed since forever!
<https://github.com/DeathChaos25/P5XBundleDeobfu...
oh also they really love that hash function for some reason, they also use it for looking up assets in their asset map, and also which folder a bundle is in (hash % 200)
i was surprised they didnt use it for their new lua map, they use the first half of a sha256 hash instead
storm cloak
random hornet
i was surprised they didnt use it for their new lua map, they use the first half...
well i think its cuz their function is prone to collisions
and theres like 6000 lua scripts
the asset map even has a section with a different lookup tbl that just uses the asset name instead of hash because it collides with another asset
zinc dirge
Man I need a doc or something with every characters persona names in the file
random hornet
holdon for a sec
random hornet
Man I need a doc or something with every characters persona names in the file
all of the prefabs are ps_<name>.prefab
zinc dirge
The goat ๐
Just double checking but you have some doubles on here like soy - Mandrin is there twice is that just a mistake?
random hornet
ah yea
for some reason soy is in the thief table twice in the CN version
same with enco
well its id'd like the swimsuit variants or mont fs but its just the same char data
soy variant soonโข?
zinc dirge
They did just announce a 5 star Soy
zinc dirge
Whos enco?
random hornet
luce iirc
zinc dirge
Ah he also got a 5 star announced with soy
Actually I've been thinking when we import characters into unity there are some shaders that come with any idea what they are for?
restive basalt
Actually I've been thinking when we import characters into unity there are some ...
They come with shaders? I haven't seen that
random hornet
Actually I've been thinking when we import characters into unity there are some ...
assetripper makes dummy shaders
because they normally use custom shaders
the shaders are only there if you're ripping the shaders bundle but its not very useful
restive basalt
I celebrate the day we can finally decompile the shader 
zinc dirge
the shaders are only there if you're ripping the shaders bundle but its not very...
Ohhhh okay I was wondering cuz one of them has text in different languages so I didn't know if it was real or not
random hornet
yeah they like to name their shader params in chinese sometimes
zinc dirge
yeah they like to name their shader params in chinese sometimes
So they aren't "real" shaders?
random hornet
they are real
its the p5x devs naming their shaders params in chinese
the shaders are 'real' it's just they dont have any of the actual shader code from the game, just the metadata like parameters
zinc dirge
That's what I mean when I say real
random hornet
ah then yeah
assetripper just makes a dummy shader that returns the main texture input directly
zinc dirge
Ahh okay
restive basalt
do you think it's possible to make custom pk maps
i'm editing the stripes out of Manaka's striped cardigan from the side quest and prologue and, ofc, the pk classes with that
random hornet
for sure
restive basalt
how do you think it could be made
because I know the pk is 3 maps rolled into one
random hornet
you can seperate the maps
i know ps and gimp provide utilities to edit an image by color channel but pdn is a bit involved of a process since you do need to manually seperate the maps and recombine
although there are plugins to do both more easily
fringe kite
do you think it's possible to make custom pk maps
it's split into 3 parts, R is metal, B is shadows, and honestly idk what G is
random hornet
g is smoothness
mainly for reflections
which are more visible on metallic materials
although it also affects specular reflections
fringe kite
i see
spiral pendant
so what is B doing if they already have dedicated shadow maps?
torn kindle
b's for ambient occlusion
restive basalt
Hmmm the most editing would have to be the second and third one
The only issue i see is just consistency stuff
We have stuff like content aware fill, but getting the same result on two different textures is tricky
random hornet
so what is B doing if they already have dedicated shadow maps?
they act in different steps of the shader. its hard to explain
the first shadow map is used alongside the ramp to mix between darkcolor and bc
the ao is then applied after on the final mixed color
the shadow map is not for ao it is for self shadows like hair on face
restive basalt
But then again, you also haven't implemented pk textures into the shader
So for now, no need for pk texture edits, I suppose ๐ฅด
spiral pendant
I don't suppose we have a shortcut for finding UI stuff?
restive basalt
I know some assets legit just have 'ui' in the name lmao
random hornet
ui stuff depends
depends on what it is
most ui textures are in ui, uitex, or atlas bundles
random hornet
otherwise knowing what specific bundles a ui textures in depends on what it is
character assets are referenced by the config files, while most other ui assets are referenced by their prefab
i.e for the update screen, the prefab would be UI-firstLoad-ver2.prefab
almost all ui animations are in ui_animation.bundle
restive basalt
What's the naming convention for sprites? I believe i can look character up by internal ID but not 100% sure
I did Katayama but realized that the body part of her sprite is outdated
There's a new one with a lighter dress tho
Here we go, the new one
They visibly lightened her dress and I think they lightened her hair a bit?
random hornet
What's the naming convention for sprites? I believe i can look character up by i...
theres not rlly a naming convention for dialog sprites
some combination of character, outfit, expression, and layer
with either dashes underscore or nothing in between each element
and sometimes outfit is omitted
also all in pinyin
restive basalt
random hornet
yeah basically
just that the keyword is sometimes omitted and some dialog sprites (like joker) use underscores instead of hyphens
restive basalt
I could always use Photoshop's color match but yeah
Just thought i'd show the drastic mismatch
hollow blaze
๐ค
It's been weeks and I just happen to check in here and you're still messing with this damn Akashi model lol
restive basalt
It's been weeks and I just happen to check in here and you're still messing with...
The power of autistic hyperfixation is strong
This has been going on for 9 months (the fixation)
And actually i've barely touched it (the akashi model)
I was too busy making these
Being insane and making the first P5X meshmods
I'm just now touching him since i finished the girl on the left just yesterday
I needed her done for renders
random hornet
What should I do for this, <@185200691533447168>
make sure all the textures are correct color space
restive basalt
wdym
random hornet
all the data textures should be set to Non-Color
restive basalt
ahhh
random hornet
otherwise im not sure
restive basalt
and this isn't render preview
it's material preview
btw aaron
it only does texture replacement for now
but it also does frame dumping i believe
random hornet
i already use 3dmigoto
random hornet
<:yosukecringe:967510365703376916>
use sRGB on the base color and darkcolor textures
restive basalt
restive basalt
i already use 3dmigoto
i guess this is a modified one to work better with p5x in general
restive basalt
no matter what I try, it won't work ๐ I KNOW his textures match
or they should
so idk why it isn't working
random hornet
i feel like one of the data maps has the wrong color space or something
restive basalt
i'd have to send you the blend
zinc dirge
I can't find closers head prefab
random hornet
I can't find closers head prefab
closer_uniform_face_wholeexport_rig.prefab
theres no thief face prefab it just uses the uniform one
restive basalt
putting an outline on Mio's bangs was likely a mistake, but leaving the back outlined and the rest not makes less sense ๐ญ
without outline
zinc dirge
closer_uniform_face_wholeexport_rig.prefab
I swear I tried uniform I must have spelt it wrong and not noticed
lofty wolf
Just gonna ask, can you guys export assets from the most recent cn version?
Or does it have to be one version behind?
random hornet
i export from cn
any version should work
u can install cn even without an account
restive basalt
i feel like one of the data maps has the wrong color space or something
thought i sent this but i guess I didn't
having this issue with my OC too, but one file should be sufficient
and Akashi has significantly less meshes and textures
restive basalt
Also I have no clue what data maps are
random hornet
everything thats not the color
the pk, shadow, normal, etc
technically it should match w/e p5x devs import it as but idk if that information is easily accessible
restive basalt
technically it should match w/e p5x devs import it as but idk if that informatio...
Hmmm
Well, I posted Akashi with your shader there, so all you'd have to do is plugin some textures
Because I'm at a loss for what to do
random hornet
i wont be able to check until this weekend
restive basalt
Oof
Well, it is close to thanksgiving
fringe kite
could anyone with cn client get me the new soy/luce models? this is gonna take a while
lofty wolf
could anyone with cn client get me the new soy/luce models? this is gonna take a...
Ooh, YES!
I was gonna ask this too
spiral pendant
does anyone happen to know what Chiyome's internal name is? specifically for the ||Vast|| variant
fringe kite
aren't personas usually called their usual names?
lofty wolf
i'll send the models if someone hasn't
Alright, can't wait!
Hope they'll be used in modding!
spiral pendant
aren't personas usually called their usual names?
idk, I think some of them are. but some are romanized to hell, some just have a different name, and I'm pretty sure some are just straight up in CN
restive basalt
Hope they'll be used in modding!
Morty already told me he has no plans to
lofty wolf
Morty already told me he has no plans to
Oh, of course.... there you go again with crushing my hopes...
restive basalt
Oh, of course.... there you go again with crushing my hopes...
I'm just saying what Morty told me
torn kindle
i have no intention of porting them
or if i do it will remain forever lost on my ssd
fringe kite
i think he shares a face with the base model but
random hornet
does anyone happen to know what Chiyome's internal name is? specifically for the...
chiyome_weiyang
spiral pendant
ye I found it not long after typing that xd
I wasn't sure if personas did the thing where a lot of their names are in chinese or super romanized or something
restive basalt
chiyome_weiyang
If you update your table or whatevs, could you let me know the ID of ||Shimotsuna's|| monstrous forms? Akashi was straightforward because he was still 'mingshi', but Katayama had been 'pianshan'
We have the concept art, buf I want to see it up close up for more details
lofty wolf
or if i do it will remain forever lost on my ssd
So you're just not interested in them currently?
fringe kite
wasnt soemone looking for wonder with the hood
fringe kite
wasnt soemone looking for wonder with the hood
||wonder_thief_igor_body_wholeexport_rig_polySurface17||
^ the name of the asset (idk if spoiler)
fringe kite
wasnt soemone looking for wonder with the hood
its meant to have a unique mask too but i cant find it
random hornet
hm ill see if i can load it in game this weekend cuz im curious
torn kindle
could you lob :0 nvm i got them
random hornet
does it have its own rig ||wonder_thief_igor|| or is it using wonder_thief
anyway you need the wholeexport rigs to get proper rigging not just the mesh
lofty wolf
~~could you lob :0~~ nvm i got them
So rn for the p5x mod and outfit mods you're just focusing on the beginning chars and maps, right?
restive basalt
^ the name of the asset (idk if spoiler)
It is
Sort of
The model makes a brief appearance in the chapter 4 finale
And by brief, i mean brief
Doesn't appear in the palace part of the finale
But its appearance defs leaves questions (within context)
torn kindle
So rn for the p5x mod and outfit mods you're just focusing on the beginning char...
no, i am not doing anything for it. i will not be doing anything for it. i suggest if you want something p5x related instead of assuming im going to do literally every single thing from the game the second itโs out, maybe try giving it a go yourself instead
zinc dirge
What's Monts gun prefab is it just gun or wq_gun
torn kindle
does it have its own rig ||`wonder_thief_igor`|| or is it using wonder_thief
it has it''s own one
restive basalt
the model we saw in the pre-rendered cutscene has become reality
random hornet
wait is this model only in CN atp?
might be difficult to get it ingame on global then
zinc dirge
Is it "wq_frost_gun_02_wholeexport_rig.prefab" or "frost_wq_gun_02_wholeexport_rig.prefab"
restive basalt
only in CN atm
unless you mean mont's gun
random hornet
nah i meant the new wonder thief
random hornet
Is it "wq_frost_gun_02_wholeexport_rig.prefab" or "frost_wq_gun_02_wholeexport_r...
wq_frost_gun_02.prefab
dont ask why it breaks the naming conventions because i have no idea
lofty wolf
no, i am not doing anything for it. i will not be doing anything for it. i sugge...
So you're just giving up on it all and don't want to do it anymore?
torn kindle
no
lofty wolf
Is it because of me and that I asked too much?
Look, I'm sorry.
I was just so exited for what you would do.
zinc dirge
wq_frost_gun_02.prefab
OFC it does
torn kindle
either way this help post is not the place for it lmao
lofty wolf
Should I talk about it in the other channel then?
torn kindle
nah i meant the new wonder thief
it's got unqiue hat bones so yeah idk if i'd work
random hornet
OFC it does
i think its because the gun is a seperate rig (like the masks of other chars). the p3r squad has a similar naming convention on their evokers (just without the item quality in the name)
wq_makoto_gun.prefab
they all share makotos gun model tho
restive basalt
you know i just realized
if we can use our guns in the collab, wouldn't that be a giveaway that this is cognitive shenanigans
for p3r
zinc dirge
I mean it's not like it was the real Tartarus anyway
restive basalt
no i know
but I mean to the p5x team
their guns work because cognitions
if it wasn't a cognitive space, this wouldn't apply
but everyone is treating it like some mystery when i figure it should be obvious to the p5x thieves that this is a cognitive space scenario
zinc dirge
Listen they aren't the smartest bunch they a couple of goobers
restive basalt
If you update your table or whatevs, could you let me know the ID of ||Shimotsun...
bump (if anybody else wants to help, it'd be appreciated 
)
restive basalt
update: I found the first phase, still looking for second phase
first phase is sd_xiajinming_tonghua
restive basalt
okay this is interesting
so i'm still looking for phase 2, but it looks like a 3rd akashi model is in the files
it...doesn't look any different from the regular one and n_mingshi_jq (which is used for the flashbacks in the palace)
it's called n_mingshilei
fringe kite
could it be a placeholder for a future model?
i dont know how p5x works, but for genshin they use keqings model as a placeholder for new characters
restive basalt
who knows? It's highly unlikely Akashi will ever return, even as a phantom idol
||After all, he was stabbed by a homeless man (assumed to be a former victim of his) at the end of chapter 3 and died, so yeah||
fringe kite
okay this is interesting
so i'm still looking for phase 2, but it looks like a 3...
new diffuse
(i think thats new?)
restive basalt
huh
fringe kite
i dont really keep up with this game tbh, so i have no idea if thats new
restive basalt
maybe they're reusing it for an npc?
fringe kite
possibly
theres some stuff relating to chibo, which i know was also used for ikenamis parents
restive basalt
but what's bizarre is that mingshilei also used Akashi's face model
fringe kite
restive basalt
as well as the same hair model
restive basalt
yeah I saw those earlier
could you check out the whole mingshilei model? how it looks textured and all
atm i'm trying to locate the model for shimotsuna's second phase battle
restive basalt
huh
mild spoiler, but Akashi's hair is naturally brown
but this looks like a lighter shade
fringe kite
restive basalt
huh...i thought the hair model looked awfully lower
this feels like an insult to Akashi, ngl but whatever BWS
it feels like an odd choice, given that Akashi is a higher-poly npc model, rather than the generic low-poly npc model
restive basalt
mild spoiler, but Akashi's hair is naturally brown
but this looks like a lighter...
here's what his TV station ID showed him as
restive basalt
broken body likely refers to ||the figurine of Shoki's mother that Shimotsuna broke in half in this update||
restive basalt
yup
literally snaps it in half during the scene
also interestingly enough, Seiji's irl model has one with 'jq' in the name as well, same as Akashi's flashback model
restive basalt
its meant to have a unique mask too but i cant find it
no wonder you struggled
it's in role_4cf66e83
i be looking for the second phase of shimotsuna's battle and i find everything but it, i swear
lofty wolf
Anyone have a download for all the models or Luce's models(all outfits)?
Or is it there and I just need to find it somewhere?
lofty wolf
I also need help using the model for the first time, how to apply the materials, and what these are(The stick objects):
I want to make the model simple as possible if I can, for what I'm doing with it
Especially for the materials
fringe kite
no wonder you struggled
ah i should've looked by container
fringe kite
those are empties, you can just delete them, up here you can toggle stuff so it only shows emtpies, then you can just delete them all
fringe kite
I also need help using the model for the first time, how to apply the materials,...
materials aren't applied by default, you have to do it manually
press on this icon, then the +, click on the yellow circle and change it to image texture, then select the BC texture
there's more complicated setups, but that's the easiest
restive basalt
Btw i got an answer to the mingshilei model
it's akashi's younger brother
"it's a character in Luce's COOP event, his name(in the dialog) is ็ดฏ(lei), but n_mingshilei_head_wholeexport_rig.prefab's name is ๆ็ณไบฌๅผๅผๅคด, which means Akashi's little brother's head"
My mind is reeling tho
I joked to myself that it was probably his sibling or something, but i didn't expect to be right
I figured it was more likely they were pulling something similar to Marian's dad and Yamagoshi where it was essentially the same model but different colors
Oh god i'm so curious though, I have to know the context
restive basalt
@torn kindle Akashi has a younger brother (literally, i am not joking)
random hornet
i wonder if the datamine crowd is having a cow because they may have changed how the db keys work
at least my tools are broken that auto derive the keys
restive basalt
i wonder if the datamine crowd is having a cow because they may have changed how...
Aaron are you able to pull the dialogue for Luce's confidant.
I am dying to know what the deal with Akashi's little brother is
I know you can't look now
But would you be able to locate it please?
restive basalt
the hair
Now that I look at this without a blue light filter, it looks like the same shade as the right half of Akashi's hair
Angst time?
restive basalt
Guys...I just got confirmation from a brief snippet of Luce's confidant that somebody posted that n_mingshilei IS Akashi's little brother
restive basalt
Lmao
I feel bad for him
The translation:
||Ikenami Seiki: "I've never hated my parents. I've always respected them, both now and in the past."
Rui: "I see..."
Rui: "That's true. If it's a 'rumor,' then it proves your parents weren't wrong..."
Rui: "Unlike my brother... a real 'villain'..."
Ikenami Seiki: "Huh?"
Rui: "Ah... my brother was a criminal... no, to be precise, he was also a victim of crime."
Rui: "He's dead... but it was later revealed that he actually did a lot of bad things behind the scenes."
Rui: "As a result, even though our family didn't do anything, the media kept chasing us everywhere."
Ikenami Seiki: Th-I see...
Rui: "I feel like I'm being watched everywhere I go, and I can't even work part-time at university..."
Rui: "Whenever I go home, or go to a manga cafe to be alone, I always think about those bad things..."
Rui: "So, this place is actually quite suitable." "Rei: "The noise is just right; just staring at the screen can kill time..." Ikenami Seiki: "Mr. Rei..."
Rei: "Sorry, I said something strange. But..."
Rei: "Maybe it was meddling, but be careful not to commit a crime. Your work is under a lot of scrutiny..."||
From the looks of it, the translation of his name from chinese to japanese is probably Rui
random hornet
i wonder if the datamine crowd is having a cow because they may have changed how...
no shot they use the string "BlackWings" to obfuscate the key
random hornet
i figurd it out
i may or may not have asked ai to convert some of the decompiled pseudo code for me
random hornet
i figurd it out
i know half of it is just base64 encoding but for some reason their base 64 encoding implementation is weird with padding
restive basalt
Is this just you decompiling files for CN to access stuff like dialogue and internal workings?
random hornet
yeah
restive basalt
Oooo
I must know more about Rui....
If you're up for looking for the dialogue
If not, I totally get it
I'm being a pest right now haha ๐ญ
I just think this is sick since we never had an evil palace ruler further expanded on, let alone after their palace
It's usually all said and done
So the fact that the little brother thing is true is exciting
I don't count Katayama and Futaba because they both ended up being a playable character with their own respective confidants
(It doesn't help that this is related Akashi)
random hornet
if you're willing to sift thru the huge dialog file thats in cn i can send it
restive basalt
Granted what we may get is crumbs, but it's shocking Rui exists - especially since it's outside the context of the main plot
random hornet
restive basalt
Thankfully I already know what character (symbol) to look for
restive basalt
hmmm...
i try inputting '็ดฏ' into the search, but i'm mainly getting results from collabs or mainstory
and it's usually related to exercise, energy, exhaustion, etc
i tried using search to look up a snippet from the dialogue somebody posted but no results
ah, i found a line
but not under his name, unfortunately
i just looked for a snippet of one of the sentences he spoke
he doesn't have a portrait, so it's just 'AAAAA=='
oh wait
it shows his model name
restive basalt
https://github.com/ML-Dev-Hub/csv_trans
I would use this to translate the whole table but i don't understand this
random hornet
also it seems like the TWINS_THIEF_UNION param was removed
restive basalt
oh? interesting