#(P5R PC) Rose & Violet - Story overhaul

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bold mortar
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mothers prosperity abundance, etc.

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she's the oldest in the group and the wealthiest

surreal ermine
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yeah, traditional feminity

bold mortar
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fits her pretty well

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time to fight the evil one

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very odd

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actually nevermind

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i was gonna say that jaldabaoth hasn't been a slog

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but i've had to rely on yoshitsune and izanagi for actual damage

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sounds like this mod was only good at the beginning of the game

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wow that's annoying i can't skip the satanael scene

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i should change the dialogue options in this scene

surreal ermine
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bro ๐Ÿ˜ญ let them be sad

bold mortar
surreal ermine
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LMAO

bold mortar
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i hate this so much

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one arrest per story is the most i can take

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i got an idea

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what if we made a mod

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where akechi survives third semester

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and takes the blame even after maruki

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so the protagonist doesn't have to go to jail

jade willow
jade willow
bold mortar
bold mortar
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since he's obviously alive there

jade willow
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Bester I'm gonna hold your hand as I say this

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||he died||

bold mortar
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he's literally right there

jade willow
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Jokers hallucinating

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He also seems himself become a PT in the window

bold mortar
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yeah that part sucks

jade willow
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Lmao

bold mortar
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maybe my maxim regard p5 should be

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i like persona 5

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i hate phantom thieves

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who drew this

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i'm gonna give them a strong talking to

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maybe i should release the reskins

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wth they had hair ornaments?

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i could've just stolen one of these instead of trying to figure out how to import p3 models

molten finch
bold mortar
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wow the first time i've actually gotten to use my model

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besides making and testing it

jade willow
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I was actually thinking, "Wow how cute would it be if Kasumi hugged her cat at night like femc does"

bold mortar
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i forgot that akechi gets like this

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wow this must be a new sequence

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this wasn't in the mod last time i did a full run

jade willow
bold mortar
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it just occurred to me this will not play well with gyasumi

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in the sense that she wears the midwinter casual there

jade willow
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Oh yeah...

bold mortar
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but if that scene takes place before the arrest

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there'll be a disconnect in continuity

jade willow
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Isnt this a specific midwinter though?

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How many midwinter models are there again

bold mortar
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so you'll see in the image it's the fur coat

jade willow
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No Im saying doesnt the cutscene use a specific model # if that makes sense

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or is there only one midwinter model

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Like winter casual I think there are like 3 of them

bold mortar
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idk how events work

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all i can tell is that it uses whichever set of midwinter clothes that you have enabled

jade willow
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Let me see

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there are 2

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Actually 3...why does she have her hair down in one?

bold mortar
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the IJA uniform for akechi is kinda goated

jade willow
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Well it looks like the outfit in the cutscene is tied to the same vers. of the midwinter outfit used in the open world

bold mortar
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i should ask zylvos how to change that

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so i can make sure that doesn't happen with Gyasumi

jade willow
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probably would be more trouble thant what its worth

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its model 7

bold mortar
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idk it might be relatively simple

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@random hinge

jade willow
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model 6, 7 and 108 use midwinter. But 108 is hair down for whatever reason

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Cutscene uses model 6 which is also used in openworld

bold mortar
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ik which model it is

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i've suffered enough editing them

buoyant arch
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that was unexpected

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now I have an entire keyboard and monitor to dry off

bold mortar
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lol

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akechi getting another goated line

surreal ermine
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hey l7m3

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red rose

buoyant arch
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can do them two days from now

surreal ermine
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yippee

buoyant arch
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tomorrow I have an exam

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then I might be able to get to it

surreal ermine
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good luck brother risepray

buoyant arch
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if I don't drown myself in studying the entire day

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btw, you want the original version or with the alt bangs

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can do both

surreal ermine
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huh?

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oh

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wait what

buoyant arch
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the portraits

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i've got the original one

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which is just kasumi

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and the one with BEster's alt bangs

surreal ermine
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the original

buoyant arch
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alr

surreal ermine
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i haven't made red rose versions of the alt bangs yet because the textures on them are special

buoyant arch
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makes sense

surreal ermine
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and... i'm not manually recoloring that

buoyant arch
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no problem

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maybe I can get them done in between my studying, but I will do it this week

surreal ermine
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can you do the new portraits you made too? i like those

buoyant arch
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oh yeah, I still need to do the many recolors for the PT outfit

buoyant arch
surreal ermine
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ah

buoyant arch
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not like I scrapped the first ones I did, but I'd much rather keep the new ones as the "main ones"

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oh yeah, one more thing

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your red rose version still has the white mask instead of the black one right?

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cause then I'd have to recolor the PT mask

bold mortar
surreal ermine
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don't kill him

buoyant arch
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if only it was simply a recolor...

surreal ermine
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also the red and white leotards

bold mortar
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not really...

buoyant arch
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the hair is rather different depending on the angle

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and with the angle I did, only doing a recolor would be wank

buoyant arch
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busy

surreal ermine
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wank?

bold mortar
buoyant arch
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jank

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my hand went to W for some reason

bold mortar
surreal ermine
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you probably mixed jan kand wack

surreal ermine
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i like wack

buoyant arch
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i like that word too

buoyant arch
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i can see it though

buoyant arch
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give kasumi his hair

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another portrait

bold mortar
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then you'll have four sets of hair from me...

buoyant arch
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searching for the 7

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my maigc number

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who knows, might happen at some point

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wish we had a recolor for black and red of her PT outfit

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or more red in general

bold mortar
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black hair recolor...

buoyant arch
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is that actually a thing?

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or will be

granite wren
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RGB hair Kasumi that goes through a gradient /s

bold mortar
bold mortar
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gaiden is peak

surreal ermine
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i think so

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it's got ragdoll so it's either 6 or gaiden

bold mortar
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6 didn't have an arena like this

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at least i don't remember it having this

surreal ermine
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might be kiwami 2

bold mortar
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no

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see in gaiden they re-enact the y2 fight

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and other fights

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so the guy dressed as kiryu means it's gaiden

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also that cage is definitely not in purgatory

surreal ermine
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idk i haven't played gaiden yet

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all i know is he cries

bold mortar
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gaiden is peak

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an island of peak in a sea of shit

jade willow
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Im looking at the events to see what I would edit to make Akechi seem more flirty

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But he already seems flirty dark

surreal ermine
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exactly

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mr. subtext

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gay ass-- oh wait he's straight here

jade willow
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LMAO

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canon akechi is so down bad for Joker

surreal ermine
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where is my crow tag

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likterally

jade willow
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"I dont take anyone to my special place, but wow...! I brought you."

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oooookay

surreal ermine
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there's nothing gay about inviting your homie to the bathhouse and having an intimate talk about my mommy issues. naked

jade willow
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LMAO

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the way he even says "maybe we shouldnt talk about this naked" uh yeah??

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Like he really thinks he is slick

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It makes me wonder if he is actually slipping up or if its an act

surreal ermine
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i think it's a mix

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he's still sugar coating it, but the meaning behind it is the same

jade willow
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I like that

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Sometimes I feel like he can be so fake he forgets who he really is I guess

surreal ermine
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literally

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he faked himself for so long he forgot who he really was

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in the third semester he's just an empty shell

jade willow
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Idk I feel like he has a lot going on 3rd semester

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I wish they explored more in 3rd semester. I wish 3rd semester was longer.

surreal ermine
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me too

granite wren
surreal ermine
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*fudanshi

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but yes

bold mortar
surreal ermine
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i think you're misinterpereting what i was aying

bold mortar
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probably

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i'm pretty tired

surreal ermine
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by empty shell i meant more like he has no idea of his true personality

jade willow
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ooooh

surreal ermine
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so he latches on to being firey and aggressive in order to push people away

jade willow
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do not make me sad rn duckingmad

granite wren
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"Please let me die again so I don't have to actually deal with this"

jade willow
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no stop thats too much

surreal ermine
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he's constantly trying to make joker dislike him because he knows joker wished him back to life

jade willow
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it makes me actually wonder...did Akechi intend to live after ||getting revenge on Shido||??

granite wren
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I don't think he did
Kinda similar to ||Ken|| in that regard thinking about it

jade willow
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๐Ÿ˜ญ Nah Im done this is too sad

granite wren
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That's why they say revenge is hollow cuz like... y'know, then what

jade willow
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omg now the whole ||if only we met a few years earlier|| hit harder

granite wren
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He's a teenager he didn't plan that far

jade willow
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ugh thats actually something I really like about him. He's very smart for his age or whatever but at the end of the day he's just a kid

surreal ermine
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:)

bold mortar
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if only morgana planned to not live

jade willow
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In some alternate reality ||Akechi has his mom and is living a good life with Joker|| yukikocry

granite wren
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kills a greedy burger boss
didn't plan that far after

Is he just a more successful Plankton after all

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He could have lived a new life with the Okumura secret formula

bold mortar
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okamura when his stupid arc sucks and makes the game worse

jade willow
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worst palace for sure

bold mortar
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worst is sae's

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okumura is just the worst boss

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but wow they really bungled that whole segment of the game

granite wren
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... Sae's is my favourite cuz I like the aesthetic and music and the build up coming together

bold mortar
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and ofc it leads into a segment of the game i really dislike

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and that segment leads into an even worse segment

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and then the game ends

granite wren
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I could never hate the part of the game that gave us Whims of Fate

bold mortar
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like it just gets worse and worse after you beat okumura lol

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and there's like nothing to hook you back in

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because what is the ultimate reward for the protagonist?

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going to jail

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everyone still hates you

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bravo

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tbf this was set up at the beginning of the game too

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since nobody apologizes to you after the kamoshida arc

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ig maybe the protagonist should just commit suicide

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then there'll be some meaning to their existence

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like wtf man

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can anything good happen to the p5 protagonist just once

jade willow
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why doesnt this want to pack...

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the other one packed...

surreal ermine
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TEAMMATES?

jade willow
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FRIENDS?

bold mortar
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what are those?

jade willow
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you know what

bold mortar
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those don't exist in p5

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you just have deals

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and clients

jade willow
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i dont know if Im just really tired or what but it packed after brainlessly clicking it 5 times

surreal ermine
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you only need to drag the msg btw it auto detects the h

jade willow
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and pack them together

surreal ermine
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you need to edit the evt to do that

bold mortar
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why are you repacking the .bmd though?

surreal ermine
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to add new lines you need to get into evt editing

jade willow
jade willow
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youre joking right

surreal ermine
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not new

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um

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like

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the [msg MSG] lines, yo'll need to edit the evt

bold mortar
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i just used bmd emulator

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that one worked right outside the box

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unlike bf emulator

jade willow
surreal ermine
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not with evtui

jade willow
bold mortar
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wdym?

jade willow
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I followed this guide on gamebanna and got this gui and this other tool I forgot the name of

surreal ermine
jade willow
surreal ermine
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yeah that's what evts do

bold mortar
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i would hate if i have to do event editing just so change the text for stuff like the gym...

jade willow
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ahhhh im so excited, that sounds fun

granite wren
surreal ermine
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you'll need these to build evtui

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after you download those sdks follow the instructions on the README

bold mortar
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maybe it doesn't like it when i copy-paste stuff

jade willow
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oh building sounds kinda scary ppsweat

surreal ermine
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it's not

jade willow
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What do you mean by build

surreal ermine
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you're a REAL developer now

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just read the instructions after you download the dotnet sdks

granite wren
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The source code is on github and then you use the SDKs to turn it into a real boy like Pinocchio

surreal ermine
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LMAO

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basically there's no current release version. it's basically in an alpha state

jade willow
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oh...harold easy no big deal

bold mortar
granite wren
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The Lessgana thread

bold mortar
jade willow
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Darn I really have to edit the events...

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Is it necessary to add another line in the table thing for the h file then?

jade willow
bold mortar
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not working

jade willow
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Like you didnt edit or ?

bold mortar
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i did edit it

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it just doesn't work

granite wren
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It's edited but not showing

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So doing nothing

jade willow
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So its like the old text is there instead?

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Or its just not talking at all?

bold mortar
bold mortar
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so i've discovered that my morgana mod needs rose and violet to be enabled

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for some reason

surreal ermine
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lol lmao even

bold mortar
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this thing really wants me to give up

peak drift
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Bester the motivation you have out of pure hatred for Morgana is honestly impressive

bold mortar
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it would be nice to see results though

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because somehow this mod only works with rose and violet enabled and idk why it does that and it's driving me crazy

jade willow
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Zylvos is here to save us... pray

random hinge
# bold mortar <@481391847445364743>

It's an easy adjustment in the .EVT, I can send you a special version for Gyasumi so you can override mine. Which model number do you want to use?
Also, you might want to put it in the Costume Framework folder and not the P5REssentials folder. Otherwise, it'll not overwrite my .EVT unless Gyasumi is loaded after Rose and Violet

bold mortar
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model number

jade willow
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So...is it easier to edit text in .evt?

bold mortar
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uhhhhh

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idk it doesn't matter to me

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any number

random hinge
bold mortar
random hinge
bold mortar
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thanks

jade willow
random hinge
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95% of R&V works like that

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If you want to add a new line (let's say MSG_052_0_0), it's where you need event editing

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It's not hard to add a new line. The problems start to appear depending on where/when you want to add it

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Basically, everything within events work has a time associated to it (in frames? It's not in seconds at least)

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So the dialogue you want to add needs to show up at a certain time you'll specify

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Depending on when you want to add it, you miiiight need to move stuff (animations, other dialogues...) a bit

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Also, it's not exactly the same deal if you want add a dialogue that demands a protag answer

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I don't use EVTUI (naosmiley ) so I don't know exactly how it looks or how easy it is with it

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Basically, locate the time when you want to add the new line (I usually use the other MSG in the event to find my bearrings) and then try adding it

surreal ermine
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evtui has a add empty frames feature

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so you right click where you want the empty frames go, click add empty frames, and it adds them

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no moving required

random hinge
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You need to add a model named "C0001_008_00.GMD" and place it in the same folder as the other models

jade willow
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omg that sounds like a lot...notthisblob I hope event ui makes it easier than that. It sounds like a worst version of keyframes in blender

jade willow
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when i see black windows I get scared ๐Ÿ˜ญ

jade willow
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she made it !! ๐Ÿ’…

granite wren
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๐ŸŽ‰

jade willow
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So I guess I cant use other mods as a basis? I have to use the game's CPK?

eager wedge
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlJJyVRd5lk new episode in 2 and a half hours!

!! SPOILERS FOR PERSONA 5 ROYAL IN THIS SERIES, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED !!

Made with permission from Zylvos and Wisteria-- if you have the game, make sure to check out their mods, linked below!

This is a full playthrough of Rose & Violet, which replaces Joker with Kasumi (AKA Rose). I will be romancing Hifumi Togo this time around, then going back ...

โ–ถ Play video
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I'm up to Niijima's palace in the recordings, thank goodness

bold mortar
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well it works

buoyant arch
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took a moment and saw that in 9/14, when morgana is out, the protag will say about how we miss him

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cause of scratch marks and all that

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and with how unusually quiet it is

bold mortar
buoyant arch
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9/14 and 9/15

rich tree
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is there a way to over write the incoognito outfit thats worn during the end of november december

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i would rather she have the yukari winter casual

buoyant arch
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unsure

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no idea how to work with 3d models

jade willow
granite wren
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I think the costume number has to be set in the EVT or something

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so Zylvos did that

bold mortar
random hinge
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Yeah, I just changed the id of the model used for Kasumi in this event

bold mortar
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So I can upload that too ig

jade willow
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Wow I feel like this makes more sense to everyone else...haha. Still, EVTUI looks pretty cool! I love how you can see what the message is about

molten finch
bold mortar
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ok time to update gyasumi

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then go back to work on the morgana mod

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alright new update out

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time to go back to killing morgana

eager wedge
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!! SPOILERS FOR PERSONA 5 ROYAL IN THIS SERIES, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED !!

Made with permission from Zylvos and Wisteria-- if you have the game, make sure to check out their mods, linked below!

This is a full playthrough of Rose & Violet, which replaces Joker with Kasumi (AKA Rose). I will be romancing Hifumi Togo this time around, then going back ...

โ–ถ Play video
rich tree
bold mortar
# rich tree sorry how?

in your mod of choice
go to OptionalModFiles\WinterCasualOutfit\YukariWinterCasual\MODEL\CHARACTER\0001
make a copy of the C0001_004_00.GMD
then go to Characters\Joker\1\MODEL\CHARACTER\0001
paste that copy in and rename it to C0001_073_00.GMD

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but it uses my retexture of the yukari outfit

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rather than the default texture

bold mortar
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that would probably work better for your purposes

rich tree
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ty worked perfectly I just made a back up of the original 73 file

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incase i need or want to switch back

eager wedge
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I just got to ||Akechi's death and the line about "the girl you're so fond of|| had me like ||EYES sadsumi ||

hidden lion
hidden lion
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Bro coulda have the ||baddest girl and absolutely fumble||

hollow owl
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So... how's progress?

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I bet there's really cool stuff now and a lot of overhaul to the game now

hidden lion
hollow owl
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oof I think right before full release

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So a long while ago

hidden lion
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I mean I'm just recently play it and finish it couple times with different models option and I say it's still fun

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(especially using other mods like compendium expansion)

hollow owl
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nice

hidden lion
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But overall it's a fun story overhaul imo

hollow owl
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I loved it when I played it, I bet it's much more now

hidden lion
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I dunno how much different it was before full release vs the newest patch compared but I say why not try run it again for the fun of it

peak drift
hidden lion
granite wren
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There was the new beach scene as well if you don't care about being straight

jade willow
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and new outfits bear_happy

hidden lion
hollow owl
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Awesome

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any new music? or UI stuff?

granite wren
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Music isn't in scope iirc

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But there's portraits for most of the model options

jade willow
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I dont think so. I think kasumi as protag got an update for her phone notification

jade willow
granite wren
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I'm not sure if MyTamagos did more portraits
I know L7 makes most

hidden lion
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My favorite model alt honestly
Make her extra silly

jade willow
granite wren
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I thought long hair did have them done already yeah

jade willow
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Ive been still playing with the ponytail portraits catsob

bold mortar
granite wren
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You could honestly just say that's the vanilla event I'd believe it

hidden lion
# bold mortar There's my mod

Hell yea mate love ya work

I did send some bugs I found (specifically her default summer casual) with it
but it's blessings fr

hidden lion
jade willow
hollow owl
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Y'all weren't kidding

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yukiko's rise's mitsuru and yukari's outfits

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and Fuuka's dress

hidden lion
# jade willow what was wrong with her default summer casual?

When it rain the model somehow screw up umbrellas

Which is very very veryyyy odd being they say they didn't touch any animation

But if I change it to other outfit for summer casual the umbrella work just fine.

(And ofc another just minor clipping for school summer outfit)

jade willow
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are you using a purse?

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or regular mona bag

hidden lion
hidden lion
jade willow
hidden lion
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I did leave it on bester mod comment someone also mention the bug (and I add picture as example)

granite wren
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Going from vanilla to Royal is like

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whoa

jade willow
jade willow
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Also I found the picture

hidden lion
granite wren
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but I do think your event changes feel natural, they don't stick out

I think a problem I see with a lot of Akechi writers is either making him like
too flirty, or the other direction a complete asshole

Hard balance to strike but I think you got there

bold mortar
hidden lion
jade willow
hollow owl
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I had the idea of akechi's romance going similar to shinji's

jade willow
granite wren
bold mortar
jade willow
random hinge
# jade willow Also I found the picture

This looks like an issue with the hand bone. The prop is attached to the bone, but if the bone is not like the other models, it might do that kind of stuff. I don't know what fixing this entails though

hidden lion
jade willow
random hinge
jade willow
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I noticed I got the same issue with the purse mod Actually, that might be not true.

bold mortar
hidden lion
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So something from the outfit in theory touching the hand bone ?

bold mortar
random hinge
jade willow
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To be honest I had to use several different body meshes to get the outfit right on that model

hollow owl
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btw I love the flair jeans on Kasumi, as an avid flair jean wearer

jade willow
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I wonder if the bones got messed up during

bold mortar
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The skin parts

jade willow
bold mortar
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Ig the solution is then to put the hand bones from a working model onto that one?

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Idk too many people are talking rn I'm getting disoriented

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And I'm still worried mostly about the morgana mod

jade willow
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I can take a look and see if I find a difference

bold mortar
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Yeah check the bone names or whatever it is

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Could be a simple solution like the shoe/sock bone thing

jade willow
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I thought this was due to the purse, but it may be the same issue.

hidden lion
bold mortar
# jade willow

If that's a problem also with the fuuka model then it might be a problem on other mods too

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Since I didn't really touch the fuuka model

hidden lion
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With the umbrella

bold mortar
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So only the default one has problems

jade willow
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....couldnt we just try to take the mesh and put it on a correct armature and see if that fixes it?

hidden lion
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(and I guess yoshida banner or whatever it called)

bold mortar
jade willow
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No, it is. But if that armature is messed up

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Im going to try it on the Fuuka one

bold mortar
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I think then Zylvos is right about it being a bone problem

bold mortar
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I may take a look when I get home

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This stuff always seems to get dumped on me when I have the least time to work on it

jade willow
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Okay looks like that solved it

jade willow
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Idk how to get the politician's event going otherwise Id check the sign too

bold mortar
jade willow
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Well my PC needed to update now. After it's done I can

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really seamless imo

jade willow
# cunning kelp as someone who adores akechi this is very in-character!

Well this is just an edit of Zylvos' event, so I was mainly talking more about the "fan girls" and their reactions.

I guess to shoot my idea out there..

I kinda have this vision of Akechi sussing femc early on and trying to gather information on her by hanging out. As they hangout however his fans are spreading rumors online that he has a girlfriend (femc). He manipulates this to his advantage to get closer to her, he asks her to play as a fake girlfriend so rumors don't get out of control and also to help him with a persistent fan who won't give up on their feelings for him.

If femc accepts it would flag the romance route and they'd do more couple like things for the sake of media and he's like trying to charm her.

Idk if this idea sounds very out of character for him though, or if the fake girlfriend reasoning makes sense. I wanted an opportunity to have "romance vibes" before 3rd semester. Also idk if it's just straight up cringe. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

I would also love @pliant knot and @granite wren opinions on this!

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(also be brutally honest! I dont want to make cringe stuff ๐Ÿ˜ญ)

granite wren
# jade willow Well this is just an edit of Zylvos' event, so I was mainly talking more about t...

Honestly, it does seem like something Prince Akechi might do.

It's based off the idea that in Japan a lot of celebrities hide their dating status because it can make fans get crazy right? So the only part I'm thinking about is the idea of doing things for the media, since iirc Japanese men are a lot more coy about revealing their relationship status.

https://archive.is/20240308225156/https://medium.com/japonica-publication/why-japanese-men-hide-their-partners-ced8eaca2a5f

To deal with anonymous fans active in every nook and cranny of social media, male icons such as boy band members and popular young actors often erase the shadows of their girlfriends. Since the hordes of investigative fans are skillful, sometimes the pattern of their curtains or any distinctive room decor in the background can lead to invasive speculation and harassment, fans putting two and two together with each otherโ€™s help. Girlfriends who keep their mouths shut and donโ€™t drop hints of their secret relationships on social media are called puro-kanojo, suggesting professional girlfriends who are qualified for romance with celebrities.

Now of course Akechi isn't a boy band member or anything, but part of that appeal he keeps up is in the same camp iirc?

Anyway, it's not cringe to want to write for a pair you're interested in, so don't let that fear hold you back or anything.

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Because I guess if he announced he had a girlfriend it would make fans more crazy

granite wren
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In a way, isn't a secret relationship even more of an excuse to isolate her... / have her more to himself?

"You absolutely can't tell anyone else, it's just between us" kind of allure

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I think that's an angle that could be made use of

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From his perspective as a detective he has the leader on her own without friends to kinda back up any slip ups she makes

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From his perspective as an Akechi now nobody else can be around his crush

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I see...The only issue is the ||gun||. I felt like it kinda softened the blow of his ||betrayal|| if it was a fake relationship rather than a real one. And then maybe at some point they both kinda developed genuine feelings for each other that gets explored more for real in 3rd semester.

granite wren
jade willow
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I think thats why gay joker !spoilers for gay joker!||had their relationship begin in the 3rd semester, after his betrayal||

jade willow
granite wren
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So no need to pretend anything for the media, I think
He proposes they start dating, but it has to be secret because if anyone finds out it could ruin his professional reputation
That means, in his eyes, now he has control of things
I think the attempts to charm can stay as well in that case, there's nothing wrong with that part - there can be a bit of a back and forth dynamic

Maybe you overhear him talking to a colleague at one point (possibly over the phone) and they're saying he's risking getting too close to the case, which is the hint he's catching genuine feelings?

jade willow
granite wren
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That is fair. Maybe Im trying to soften him too much.

jade willow
granite wren
# jade willow So you think the fake relationship idea is totally illogical then? <:dark:117092...

I don't think it's illogical, I think just the way he handles it can be a bit different.

He's very totally convinced it's super fake and he's gonna turn on you, he's discussed the plan and it seems great, he has a suspect and this is a form of close surveillance, using his fame as leverage for keeping things "not real"

But it becomes real for him, and he doesn't know how to handle that. Does that make sense?

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Which is then why he'd be going through it even more when he's pointing the gun at you
and it hurts him worse when you forgive him and tell him it was real

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It's kind of a genderflipped ||Robert and Invisigal|| situation, almost... (Dispatch spoilers)

jade willow
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Actually that doesnt sound too bad either. I like how you put that! Maybe he can be more distressed after ||killing her||. The only thing is I dont think that femc should forgive him though. Its very different from my original idea so I will consider them both!

What I was originally thinking was: they enter a fake relationship (maybe it could even just be to deter the girl who is persistent with him instead of for the media? I was also thinking he could have made this girl up as an excuse to help convince femc), but they have moments that feel genuine, so it becomes a question if its an act or not. Then he ||betrays her||. Then in the ||engine room|| it becomes clear that it was something deeper.

(ofc this would all be a lot of work and Id need how to learn...)

granite wren
# jade willow Actually that doesnt sound too bad either. I like how you put that! Maybe he can...

I like the idea of having it ||deter the girl||, in fact, that could be where his ||colleague comes in to act as the "stalker"||? Which then neatly sets up that whole idea it's becoming too real for him and she sees it.

I think also, ||choosing to forgive would be seperate from the healing process||
It'd be that first step to realising they're both ||broken people, and that hurt people hurt others||. ||Forgiving him doesn't mean she thinks what he did is okay, just that Rose wants to move on with the real moments they had.||

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Also, the idea of him ||asking for a date to help deter a stalker|| would almost be a ||pancakes|| level clue she could gently tease him about later, considering celeb culture in Japan yukiLaugh

peak drift
# jade willow I see...The only issue is the ||gun||. I felt like it kinda softened the blow of...

I think itโ€™s okay because itโ€™s kinda mutual. ||Kasumi and Morgana have been sussing him out for a while. So itโ€™s not like sheโ€™s completely oblivious to the idea he has ulterior motives. Itโ€™s just they only talk about it at the festival so it makes sense that sheโ€™d be thinking if he asked her into a relationship โ€œwhat the hell is this guy planning?โ€ At that point she just knows heโ€™s a persona user and wants to get more out of him the same way he does so she would agree. Since it was built on false pretenses even from the protagonistโ€™s side, Itโ€™s really no surprise to her after Futaba hacks his phone that he was doing it for false reasons as well and is actually trying to betray her. Perhaps in the confidant ranking locked to saeโ€™s palace that is where Kasumi tries to genuinely but subtly get through to him right before he goes to betray her. Idk I think it could work, even if itโ€™s the isolated kinda relationship they both think itโ€™s not real, but are pretending it is to the other person.||

jade willow
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granite wren
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Glad I could help out with some ideas FemCYay

jade willow
granite wren
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Keep us posted as the idea updates, I'm happy to proofread or offer feedback

jade willow
buoyant arch
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@surreal ermine

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if you prefer I can them as DDS

surreal ermine
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DA PEAK

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dds would be good yeah

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do you have the long hair one done yet?

buoyant arch
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the braided one?

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i always get confused

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these are for the dds

surreal ermine
buoyant arch
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oh

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untied

surreal ermine
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ye

buoyant arch
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i forgor

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gimme a minute

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ill get it done

surreal ermine
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do you make a beatup version of your portraits too?

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like interrogation room

buoyant arch
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was going to make a new one to go with everything else

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everything is new

surreal ermine
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ah i see

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i'll leave it blank for now and wait to update then

buoyant arch
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ill be like apple

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change nothing

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but its new

surreal ermine
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lmao

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remember to do the other leotards too

buoyant arch
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will do

jade willow
surreal ermine
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oh no i didn't

buoyant arch
surreal ermine
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thanks

buoyant arch
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np

surreal ermine
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now i have to fucking debug

buoyant arch
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what happened?

surreal ermine
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oh god none of the configs are working

buoyant arch
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is it being overwritten by another mod?

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that happened to me when I tried using bester's bangs

surreal ermine
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hnope

buoyant arch
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it would keep on going back to the bustups on kasumi as protag mod

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huh

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weird

bold mortar
jade willow
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But Im assuming that since it works with the umbrella animations the other one will be fine as well

bold mortar
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ok

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i'll go make sure

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in a little bit

jade willow
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Are you working on the Morgana event?

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I got a custom text message edit working! cinna_happy

surreal ermine
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sumire watching kasumi and akechi flirting:

jade willow
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Im trying to get Sumi, Akechi, and Kasumi together at the shrine so the plan is for Sumi to 3rd wheel ig

bold mortar
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sumi is always a third wheel โ˜๏ธ

surreal ermine
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commission someone to make akechi wear a yukata cmon now

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or

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what is the right term

jade willow
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Maybe I could steal Yusuke's, arent they around the same proportions?

bold mortar
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yusuke is taller

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you'll have to proportional edit

surreal ermine
jade willow
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Sadge I hate proportional edit

surreal ermine
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yusuke is significantly taller than akechi

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ok a new year's kimono is called a furisode

bold mortar
jade willow
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tbh I cant even imagine Akechi in a kimono or furisode I guess

jade willow
bold mortar
bold mortar
jade willow
bold mortar
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it will be

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but for the next few months it'll suck

jade willow
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I feel happy when I test it and see the mod working as intended, free dopamine

hidden lion
jade willow
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Which reminds me I need to install that mod. I keep saying I will and then I forget dark

hidden lion
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Probably had something to do with how he grow up more into a traditional Japanese style home and surrounding.

surreal ermine
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he specifically looks traditionally japanese i think

hidden lion
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I forgot it's natural or normal lol but yeah

surreal ermine
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why do i remember specific things like the exact line? i have played this game too much

jade willow
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and because youre a writer cinna_happy

hidden lion
surreal ermine
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yusuke: " "maybe one of us is destined to bring rain wherever he goes"
ryuji: "...pretty sure that's you, man"

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i like that one too

jade willow
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Yusuke and Ryuji's dynamic is fun

lusty cape
hidden lion
jade willow
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I kinda didnt like Yusuke because he seemed pervy with ann

jade willow
surreal ermine
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doesn't understand how others might feel about it

bold mortar
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yeah

hidden lion
jade willow
surreal ermine
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like i said he doesn't really understand people

jade willow
jade willow
surreal ermine
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zylvos's subtle additions...

hidden lion
bold mortar
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he doesn't know any better

hidden lion
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Yusuke is one blunt of a guy

bold mortar
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ok i'm gonna test the new gyasumi model and if it works i'll update the mod rq

hidden lion
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Aight bet

bold mortar
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i don't know what that means

hidden lion
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It Mean "alright let us know"

bold mortar
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yeah @jade willow it works now

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what did you do to fix it anyways?

jade willow
bold mortar
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ah

jade willow
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It gave some warnings but it seems fine idk

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Her shoes come off and everything so

bold mortar
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yeah warnings are normal for the first export

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ok time for another gyasumi update

hidden lion
bold mortar
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lets see how publish works on reloaded ii.5

safe pebble
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does anyone know what to do/which file to replace to do the same for the model in the attic/room?

bold mortar
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ok good reloaded ii.5 works with this

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ok i'm done

jade willow
bold mortar
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good job serpent you made it into the update section

jade willow
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now watch it mess everything up

safe pebble
hidden lion
jade willow
hidden lion
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Tru tru

jade willow
bold mortar
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i'll be testing the mod better on my next p5 run

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along with working on the morgana mod at the same time

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rn though i got finals

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then i'm just gonna finish my current p5 run

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and relax with some p4 for a bit

jade willow
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omg i thought that was the thumbs up ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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there we go

bold mortar
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so anyways morgana mod won't see a lot of progress until i finish with p4

jade willow
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enjoy your vacation!

bold mortar
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i need a break from the horrible game called persona 5

bold mortar
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what is this little freak saying

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he can't protect me if he'll need protection from me

rich tree
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i have a mod that removes all traces of the school bag now if i could just make him vanish all togeather

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i mean yeah disemboided voice but meh

hidden lion
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My favorite part of this mod is where redlight district unlock when first time going. To crosslight kasumi goes "you want to escort me" is so funny

bold mortar
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because i only have the purse

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don't remind me ryuji

rich tree
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wisteria made a mod to hide the school bag for the casual outfits I added the file to remove it for the school outfits to

bold mortar
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i see

bold mortar
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i wish this game had more asshole dialogue

jade willow
hidden lion
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Which honestly would be more perfect with Yusuke 3rd awaken

bold mortar
bold mortar
jade willow
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sorry i have no reading comprehension dark

bold mortar
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i have like

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2 more hours before the run ends

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gotta fight maruki

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and do the ending

jade willow
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btw look who is on my staff

bold mortar
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to test morgana mod

hidden lion
bold mortar
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tbh i probably would too

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but rn i'm so infuriated by this game i just want it all to burn down

peak drift
jade willow
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Again I cant really imagine him in Kimono though, but maybe?

peak drift
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Yeah I doubt heโ€™d be like you know in the mood

hidden lion
bold mortar
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i like this midwinter

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i should make one like this for kasumi

hidden lion
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Fur coat

bold mortar
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i spent many hours making that

hidden lion
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Fur coat honest the best option for any winter

bold mortar
random hinge
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I'm working on a new winter casual outfit (I scrapped the one I showed a while ago)

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I like red and blue color schemes so I'll probably keep it this color

random hinge
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Also, I still need to finish a few things on Serpent&Dove loungewear, then I'll test it

random hinge
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Fuuka's dancing outfit

jade willow
random hinge
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It looked comfy, and it's really something that hasn't been done before, so I figured it would be a good addition

jade willow
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I love hoodies, I approve of this outfit naothumbsup

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This actually reminds me of the midwinter I was working on that used shihos coat..I forgot about that.

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Actually I'm all over when t comes to modding dark maybe I should just try to release something..

bold mortar
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it wouldn't be that bad

bold mortar
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i don't think the game is supposed to look like this

random hinge
bold mortar
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oh

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lol

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also maruki fighting so hard for nonsensical views

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as hype as it is

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it's also quite stupid

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also fuck this ending

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way to ruin an awesome finale

hidden lion
bold mortar
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stupid ending as usual

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cool final boss

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fuck this game i'm going back to p4

rich tree
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funny 5 is my favorite of the series

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and ive played everything from 1 upto now

safe pebble
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WAIT

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JFKAKFKSKFKKSDKKS

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i need that

peak drift
jade willow
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I wonder if her purse is worth grabbing too

random hinge
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She's the girlfriend for renting in Akihabara

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She's number 4256 in the character folder I think

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I was trying to steal her outfit at first, but I went with the hoodie, ahah

bold mortar
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I'll see if I make something with that

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yeah this'll need some work

jade willow
hidden lion
random hinge
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@jade willow I've tweaked the loungewear so the slippers can be removed when she's in bed. However, I think the bones will need to be swapped for the battle costume because it'll look a bit silly if she's not wearing them in palaces

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Also (I don't know if you've noticed) : The model you've sent me doesn't have Kasumi's eyes and face texture

jade willow
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....wait really?

jade willow
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I love the idea of her wearing slippers

random hinge
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The slippers are from your original model, I didn't add them ๐Ÿ‘€

random hinge
bold mortar
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i had the same problem when trying to edit that model

jade willow
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I use red rose!

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But sometimes somehow Sumire gets on my models

buoyant arch
jade willow
lusty cape
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Is that means more royal trio content? femc

bold mortar
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man i hate finals

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i'd rather be working on the morgana mod than doing these

jade willow
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actually I need to study as well

jade willow
bold mortar
jade willow
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But that would be something in the far off future

bold mortar
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i could blow those off

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but i'm stuck with essays

jade willow
bold mortar
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can't relate

jade willow
bold mortar
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idk

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studying is like

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a couple hours

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plus a couple hours for the exam

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essays are all day

jade willow
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I can knock out essays easy idk

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Plus you have more time to plan

bold mortar
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i plan as i go

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man i still have the other half of this final to go

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after i finish my current section

bold mortar
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at least tomorrow i'll get a break

safe pebble
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i for the life of me cannot figure out why my game keeps crashing dark

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it worked perfectly fine before with 0 issues but it has crashed twice on me today

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for some odd reason

jade willow
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also i think reloaded gives you a crash report no

bold mortar
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i think they'd just cause an infinite loading screen

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ok first final done

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time for a couple hours of persona 4

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free at least from the grasp of persona 5

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finally free to use a custom name again...

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feels so good

surreal ermine
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konoue?

bold mortar
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Prince Fumimaro Konoe (่ฟ‘่กž ๆ–‡้บฟ, Konoe Fumimaro; 12 October 1891 โ€“ 16 December 1945) was a Japanese politician who served as Prime Minister of Japan from 1937 to 1939 and from 1940 to 1941. He presided over the Japanese invasion of China in 1937 and breakdown in relations with the United States, which shortly after his tenure culminated i...

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took it from this guy because i thought it sounded cool

jade willow
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Soon Bester, you can play reloaded p4

surreal ermine
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p4 revival* lol

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oh wait

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do you mean modded

bold mortar
jade willow
bold mortar
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the revival will be dogshit

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and p4 is my favorite one

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i can't play on principal

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it's like how the yakuza 3 remake will be awful

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quite a welcome compared to what sojiro gives you

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p6 should just have you live with your family

jade willow
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Sojiro is kinda mean dark

bold mortar
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Dojima is the ๐Ÿ

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man i love this game so much

jade willow
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Im so tired I wish I could sleep but insomnia is killing me 1umaru_dead

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Idk how you guys are even up

bold mortar
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i just put on a movie

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i'm not going to bed until its over

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๐Ÿ is here

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only downside to p4 ig is that the final boss theme is kinda meh compared to p3 and p5

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so actually i'll give p5 this

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it has the best final boss

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well p2 has the best final boss

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but i haven't played p2

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so p5 has it for now

jade willow
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how are you watching a movie and playing p4

bold mortar
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i have two screens

jade willow
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thats not what I meant but okay ๐Ÿ˜ญ

bold mortar
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movie is on one screen

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game is on the other

jade willow
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I mean how can you pay attention to both

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One is a story mode game

bold mortar
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i mean i primarily pay attention to the game

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so its like

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70% game

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30% movie

jade willow
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I see Naonod

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@surreal ermine Hey Raven, do you know where I can add extra protag dialogue?

surreal ermine
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click on the checkbox "add selection" on the message you want the selection to be after

bold mortar
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is this about event editing?

jade willow
bold mortar
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i wonder if that'd be a way to make my mod

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since have all the .msg and .flow files open is very disorienting

jade willow
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Idk I havent used bf emulator or whatever youre doing but...I definitely like it a lot!

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It even has a nice ui to keep it all organized, but tbh I dont think you would need it if youre just replacing text already there?

bold mortar
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probably not

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idk i just hate this text editing

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it's so messy

jade willow
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with evtui though you could change the arrest ending

bold mortar
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ehhhhh

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i suppose

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that'd need a lot of rewriting though lol

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i wonder how that would even go though...

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i suppose if we follow the notion that akechi is alive

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then he could take the blame still

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idk i'd have to think about it

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Morgana mod is already a big enough headache

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Especially now that I know it causes problems with male romance

jade willow
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Wait really? How come its causing isues with the romance

bold mortar
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On white day there's a part where you get flowers

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With male romance there's a prompt to call ryuji afterwards

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But with the morgana mod that prompt doesn't show up

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Probably because I messed with something in the underground mall

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I'll have to do some testing when I start working on it again

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Hopefully it'll be a relatively simple fix

bold mortar
eager wedge
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should be ||losing, not loosing||

random hinge
eager wedge
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โค๏ธ

random hinge
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@jade willow I'll credit your for the loungewear model. I'm going to call it "Star Pajamas" because of the little stars on it. To make sure I give the correct credit in the mod description too : is the model from Tokyo Mirage Sessions?

rich tree
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is there a photo of the new PJ's? i haven't been watching that closely as ive been caught in other games >.<

granite wren
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can't wait for the Gyasumi version

rich tree
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there cute

hidden lion
rich tree
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I got an early christmas in P5X yesterday pulled Haru and her weapon in 30 pulls

jade willow
jade willow
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Also please let me know if you're interested in including any of my other options! I know my models are pretty jank so it's up to you, but if you are Ill do my best for them! w_kittynodders

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Also concerning the edited croissant guard model I already received permission from eve and croissant to edit it publicly

random hinge
random hinge
random hinge
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Okay, I surrender. I'm not fixing all the clipping issues because it's driving me insane

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Oh, and I just noticed the neck. Fantastic

raw marlin
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You okay there?

hidden lion
vernal sinew
jade willow
random hinge
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Frankly, I think that's okay. There are so many animations, it's impossible to fix clipping for all of them

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Especially when models have a lot of moving pieces

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Even more clipping. It might be the arm and the neck part clipping separately

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Where's that Bester gif

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Perfect

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To be honest, I don't why I make all models available as battle costumes

jade willow
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okay let me look at it now.

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Is it a weight painting issue or a mesh thing do you suppose?

random hinge
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Probably a bit of both

jade willow
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I suppose just the battle RR would need to be adjusted then

random hinge
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They're the same models, just differents bones for the socks/shoes

jade willow
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okay, lets pray pray

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oh the battle animations are REALLY bad ๐Ÿ˜ญ

random hinge
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Oh, I though I managed to fix that

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Okay, how about being lazy? I add it as a battle costume, but I warn there might be some clipping

jade willow
random hinge
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I mean, who goes to battle in their pajamas? Ahaha

jade willow
random hinge
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Nah, I've been a bit lazy and fixing stuff little by little

random hinge
jade willow
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I think I just actually made it so much worse

jade willow
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I dont get it though, I weight transferred from the pajamas too originally, the only difference really is the sleeves and pants being longer ๐Ÿซ 

eager wedge
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!! SPOILERS FOR PERSONA 5 ROYAL IN THIS SERIES, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED !!

Made with permission from Zylvos and Wisteria-- if you have the game, make sure to check out their mods, linked below!

This is a full playthrough of Rose & Violet, which replaces Joker with Kasumi (AKA Rose). I will be romancing Hifumi Togo this time around, then going back ...

โ–ถ Play video
random hinge
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And again, don't worry. It's okay to have some clipping and Atlus' models also have clipping with some animations

granite wren
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Also means other mods (hair, gyaru) don't have to worry too much about changing two models right?

(also yeah not even just Atlus, there are a bunch of companies with clipping things and I can just picture the poor devs giving up trying to fix them)

bold mortar
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It isn't that hard

granite wren
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Ah fair 'nuff
I didn't know
Works smarter not harder

bold mortar
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Anyway I'll need to make three new models just for the PJs

bold mortar
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Like most people just use the PT outfits

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And I'll use either the school uniforms or raidou outfits

granite wren
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Personally yeah I just really use the historical school uniforms, I'm not big on the masks
I like the Yaso one for Rose herself really

bold mortar
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I used the masked uniforms this run

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I might just do the regular uniforms next run

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Or even one of the other schools

bold mortar
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Since they're awesome

granite wren
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Oh man I gotta try Raidou on Akechi next time that sounds dope

bold mortar
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It is

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IJA uniform goes hard

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It's one of the downsides of playing kasumi

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Since I can't use the Joker Raidou costume

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ah nuts i don't have the screenshot on my laptop

granite wren
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I thiiink last time I used him I used the Consul N one from the Xenoblade pack

bold mortar
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goes so hard

granite wren
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This is from the mod page ofc
the colours really fit him

bold mortar
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wow i'm being very positive today

random hinge
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I can of understand Wisteria now when they said they don't want to add a million models to their mod femcmad

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With that said : Don't worry, I'm not going to stop adding models to the mods

bold mortar
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I use more models outside of the metaverse than I do within

jade willow
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it's probably bc the animations while in the metaverse are extremely exaggerated to sell a lot of movement dynamics

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like her idle where she stretches her legs

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without all of that it should be fine

random hinge
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Yeah, and you won't necessarily see all of that clipping in combat because of how the camera is positioned

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Really, I'd say the only clipping that's noticeable here is during the AOA finisher

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Even the missing bits on the legs aren't noticeable because the camera will be behind her

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And clipping when she stretches her leg 180ยฐ (!) happens with all her models (except the PT costume)

jade willow
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I might be able to fix her leg on the AOA and the chest part though! The arms just became a mess and she had a crater in her ribs dark