(P5R PC) Rose & Violet - Story overhaul

[surreal ermine]

ye

[bold mortar]

ok then the skirt is almost finalized

gonna need some slight edits

but i can do the belt in a sec

ok that's it then for this

gonna check the school uniform rq and then probably ping zylvos with these

hmmm

should i have gloves for this model?

[safe pebble]

she looks like the daughter of a super rich CEO 💅🏻

or part of the devil wears prada cast

i like it, it's cute

[bold mortar]

ig i should roll with gloves

if the school uniform version has it then the casual one might as well too

ok @random hinge i've finished

[random hinge]

Thanks, I'll see if I can add to the next update

I think I would've kept the bow green in the casual version

[bold mortar]

you can change it back then if you like

[random hinge]

Well, it's your model, I'm suggesting it

[bold mortar]

it doesn't matter that much to me

[random hinge]

I'll give it a try to see what it looks like

[bold mortar]

you'll want to import a new green bow though probably, since i changed the mat so it wouldn't have a green glow

[random hinge]

I'll clean up the duplicated textures/materials as well

Yeah, don't worry. I also edit the material when I recolor the red bow

[bold mortar]

ok sounds good

[bold mortar]

got a lot there since i kept switching shit around 😂

[surreal ermine]

can i make a red rose version?

[bold mortar]

sure go ahead

[surreal ermine]

cool

[bold mortar]

you might want to wait for zylvos to double check it first though

[surreal ermine]

yeah

[bold mortar]

ok now that i've spent nearly 12 hours on this today

i'm gonna rest

did this in lieu of studying for two quizzes i have tomorrow

[random hinge]

Good luck

[bold mortar]

should be ok

[random hinge]

And good sleep

[raw marlin]

What do you think?

[surreal ermine]

ooo a darker blue

[raw marlin]

Sumire is black and red

Think it’d be cool if Kasumi was white and blue

[surreal ermine]

serpent&rose made this for sumire

[raw marlin]

When was this?

[surreal ermine]

a few weeks ago?

[bold mortar]

i'm partial to sky blue myself

[raw marlin]

I never seen this before

[surreal ermine]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/630495 it's apart of this mod i made

[raw marlin]

Which blue fits Kasumi more

[surreal ermine]

for rose probably the dark blue

the blue for sumire was meant to match cendrillon

[jade willow]

it came out fantastic!!

[jade willow]

also this was such a great idea for a mod

on my next playthrough im making Sumire wear white and Kasumi wear black

[surreal ermine]

i wanted sumire to have long hair in the metaverse but i didn't like the regular long hair, so this was what i decided was the best idea

i also will probably use this for sumire throughout my whole playthrough next time with fem jonkler

[jade willow]

Yes, the mytamagos hair is really special

I like that for original game, she keeps the ribbon but repurposes it. I didnt like that she kept using the ponytail 🫠

I wonder how hard it would be to mod a model swap like that since Atlus didnt

[surreal ermine]

i gave instructiosn for that in the description

it's not seperate models. it's a flag trigger

after her rank 10, you select the "before third semester" option in the config. i named it that to avoid spoilers

[jade willow]

Yeah I saw that!

I wonder how hard would it before it to be automatic though

Probably impossible

[raw marlin]

So that before third semester would be the “Kasumi” design and after her actual awakening it’s the Sumire one

[surreal ermine]

ehh it's possible but annyoing to do. would require scripting

"before third semester" replaces her ponytail models. "after third semester" replaces her long har models

[jade willow]

Really? That might be something worth learning on my part. I dont know anything about scripting or events or anything, buuut might be fun to get into

It would be cute to have a scene where Kasumi gives her the ribbon and then she starts wearing it in the second hairstyle

[raw marlin]

I don’t either

[raw marlin]

Like this is the best I can do for models and idk how far it’ll go

[jade willow]

It looks really nice! I like the dark blue

I remember you asking for the red part a couple of days ago

Im still very new to learning blender, but if you need help let me know and I will try to tell you anything I know

[raw marlin]

Thanks Serpent

[raw marlin]

Yeah it was for this

[bold mortar]

Ty

[raw marlin]

Cuz I couldn’t see the red parts on GFD studios it was like cropped and you see it all when you export the thing

[raw marlin]

PRETTY

And the hair

[jade willow]

You can zoom in or out as well with the scrolling wheel on the mouse iirc

[raw marlin]

You can do that?

[jade willow]

Yeah, just need to put your cursor over the texture window

[raw marlin]

I thought that would only apply to the models and not the textures

[jade willow]

right click and drag to move, etc

or i guess left click as well

[molten finch]

Love to see Sumire wear White and Kasumi wear her Sister Black Leotard(with also White with Black Line Mask and Red Gloves)~

[buoyant arch]

I'll be honest in saying I've been staring at my work for around 20 minutes, flipping the canvas and adjusting whatever I could to try and see if anything was wrong, but trully nothing is coming up

i probably stared at it for so long I started filtering out issues

trully catfishing my mind

[bold mortar]

self-gaslighting

[jade willow]

If you see nothing wrong then its probably cause its already perfecto

[limber ember]

Sorry for the late response, but the bangs bother me. It doesn’t look like hair at all, it’s just triangles. I recommend drawing some smaller strands of hair between the big chunks to make it look softer. The way it is now, it looks like unnaturally glued together.

[buoyant arch]

i see what you mean. My struggle is I got way too used to follow the direction of her bangs by having her face the left instead of the right

[limber ember]

Yeah, it can be difficult if you're not used to changing it up. But that's why you're practicing and asking for advice. 👍

I looked at the portrait again and when you redo the hair, I'd also make the shadow lines much thinner. The shadows you cast make it look like the bangs have these huge volumes which they don’t.

Before I go, I want to commend you for learning and semi-successfully replicating P5's artstyle! Despite the mistakes, you're doing great! Keep at it.

[buoyant arch]

ty for the kind words. Sure as hell am doing my best

I'll follow your critique and send something else soon

[limber ember]

Take your time with it!

[buoyant arch]

alr, so far I reduced the thickness of some shades, added a few extra strokes to not make them glued, gave them some more depth and added a few strands tto make them not so perfectly glued to eachother like she used some sort of hair product

[limber ember]

That looks better, although I hate to be this person but I have one last thing to nitpick, if that's alright? 😅

[buoyant arch]

by all means

hold nothing

i want to get better. Any criticism or nitpick is appreciated

[bold mortar]

I checked my steam hours for the last two weeks
60 hours on blender and 20 on p5 itself

I don't think I've spent very much time playing the game

[limber ember]

@buoyant arch Make the middle bang right above the nose bridge bend to the right. It's straight now. It doesn’t follow the trajectory you set out with the other bangs and makes it look off. It takes away focus from the eyes, that's disruptive it is.

If you do this, it'll be peak and I'll have nothing to say anymore.

[buoyant arch]

i had this in mind when I saw another one of my works, and the already existing portrait of hers

alr, I'll get this done

[limber ember]

Thank you for taking the time

[buoyant arch]

my pleasure

[buoyant arch]

adjusted the strand, added some depth and some extra highlight

i think I just need the back of her head and the ribbon now

[bold mortar]

A few more hours of blender and I'll supass my overall playtime for persona 4

[limber ember]

Well done! I have nothing to add anymore. Thank you for hearing me and others out.

It's a well-done piece and you can be proud of your progress!

[buoyant arch]

this is how it is rn

ill do the blinking and I think it'll be it

[buoyant arch]

it is done

[buoyant arch]

alr I'll quickly say that this looks better in-game than I expected

even the fast travel looks pretty nice too

[random hinge]

Oh yeah, that looks very good!

[buoyant arch]

dunno if you'll be adding like, a second config for my version to keep the first version up or not, but anyways, here it is

[random hinge]

I think keeping the first version and adding this one as a second version is the right call

[buoyant arch]

by all means then

[random hinge]

I'll rename them (Version 1) and (Version 2). The image will have to speak for itself

Thanks!

[buoyant arch]

my very pleasure

I'll get to work on the untied hair to go alongside it

not today, cause I'll be busy, but I'll get it done

[jade willow]

this looks amazing!

I really like her eyelashes, they feel very Kasumi

after fighting with this girl for like 4 hrs she is keeping her hair this strawberry blond 😭 I can just shake my head and give up for now

[surreal ermine]

if you make a red rose version i'll def use it

[bold mortar]

Why is her hair that color?

[errant zenith]

Who the

[jade willow]

I have no idea 😭

[bold mortar]

mind if i take a look at the model?

could be a material thing

[random hinge]

Definitely a material issue

I remember having that kind of issue with the front bangs when MyTamagos and I were testing it

[jade willow]

If you would like to, that would be very kind of you! So here's two different models - The first one is the one from croissant guard that works fine, but it has diff weights and I wanted to change the shadow texture. The second model is one with the weights I want, but whenever I try to adjust the .dds they break in game. I also tried using p5 gfd assets which kinda helped it from blinking different colors but now its like this weird color

[bold mortar]

which one is the one you want me to look at

[jade willow]

the second one is the one Im trying to make work

But dont overexert yourself! Im going to go make dinner for my family and will be gone for a while, but Ill try again later. If you find out anything though, please let me know!

[bold mortar]

this is probably the issue

the "p5r" mats are very shiny

like i used "p5r clothes" on the mitsuru summer model

and it made it glow

[jade willow]

ohhh

so are the gfd assets very specific?

[bold mortar]

idk i just know that those mats don't work

see now it works

as opposed to this

ngl though i kinda like the strawberry blonde

anyways

[granite wren]

It's like Sayori

[bold mortar]

who?

[buoyant arch]

it's just a color change. I can do that

[errant zenith]

Doki doki literature club

[granite wren]

https://tenor.com/view/ddlc-sayori-milk-gif-15897168854094704546

[errant zenith]

Man… I miss the doki doki era

Game still gets modded with custom stories

[jade willow]

omg if you got this to work ill die! I need to check in game later when I get the chance

what did you end up doing?

[bold mortar]

changed it from the p5r mat to the mat that the other model was using

[coral prawn]

holy shit this is so peak

[rich tree]

ive stopped using the fast travel all togeather

I use the subway for everything now

[bold mortar]

same

except if i'm replaying a day

then i'll use fast travel

[jade willow]

yayy! it is working so much better now, thank you bester!

I thought that her hair was red because of the texture, but I guess its more so something about the shader

[bold mortar]

does it look like that during the day?

i feel like it should still be dark colored even at night

like this

or this

[jade willow]

Its kinda weird, I think its responding to the shade or different lights.

Let me show you

whereas when she is kinda see-through (when against a wall in its like the shaders dont apply or something?) the actaul color goes through

also getting this error

actually maybe it would be worth to remove the shadow texture now that the material is working

[bold mortar]

could just borrow the material from someone else's hair

if you haven't done that already

[jade willow]

like this material?

[bold mortar]

yeah

though you'll end up with this

[jade willow]

oooh

wait let me try

[bold mortar]

probably need to change the shadow map

[jade willow]

yeah thats what im going to do

okay time to pray

IT WORKED!!

[bold mortar]

nice

[jade willow]

omg thank you so much Bester!!

[bold mortar]

np

[jade willow]

😭 I literally struggled all day with this. Wow, I cant believe it was so simple all along. Thank you!

[bold mortar]

my 400 hours of blender coming in handy

[jade willow]

no more weird glow

[bold mortar]

epic

[bold mortar]

btw this is gonna be a variant of red rose right?

or just another alternate models mod?

[jade willow]

I plan to make a version for red and brown

[bold mortar]

oh good

since i prefer the brown hair

[jade willow]

I still want to work on the hair more, it has some issues that I dont like still but the hair color was bugging me a lot

[bold mortar]

gonna be kinda tedious though doing a set of those twice

because for each color you'll have to change each model manually

[jade willow]

really? Its not just a texture swap like for the ponytail?

[bold mortar]

what i mean is you'll have to add the hair to each model manually

but since you'll have two variants, you'll have twice as much work

[jade willow]

Oh yeahhh

Well I think I would just do a texture swap after the mesh itself is on each model

[bold mortar]

ehhhh

i suppose

what you could do is just have both materials ready

and then swap them for the models

[jade willow]

Yeah! If it causes issues though I dont mind doing manually for both. I think it shouuld be fine?

[bold mortar]

it's not hard it just like

6 hours of work

hmm i wonder what that hair looks like with my models

not bad

[jade willow]

Oooh this outfit looks really good with fluffy hair!

[bold mortar]

would need some work

[jade willow]

uughh yeah the front part is quite annoying

It clips through her shoulder during the PT idle animation and some other times, Im not sure if that is a weight issue or something like colliders

[bold mortar]

yukari outfit is pretty good with it though

[jade willow]

That looks really cute

Made for each other

The funny thing is, while I like this hair I still love the ponytail the best.

[bold mortar]

yeah and ofc R&V is made with it in mind

so ponytail will be my go-to

[jade willow]

100%

[bold mortar]

though i'll probably do my next run with the makoto hair i made

[jade willow]

I think the Makoto hair is so cute

Tbh I didnt see the vision but once you put the bow on there its very cute, especially with the modest vibes she has

Very sweet girl

[bold mortar]

reminds me i need to see how it looks with the fur coat model

dang

that's pretty good

[jade willow]

rich girl

I cant wait to try out the fur coat when it comes out

[bold mortar]

yeah me too

i guess since that one is done theres nothing else for me to change i think

[jade willow]

Youve cranked out a lot of stuff this past week

Two new outfits and the makoto hair as well right?

[bold mortar]

yup

the only thing i haven't really had a go at was the winter casual, summer uniform, and the PT outfit

but i don't really want another winter casual since I like Yukari's and there isn't much to improve on with the white shirt summer uniform

PT outfit I don't care about either since I'm not gonna use it anymore

i'm content with the masked uniforms i made

I suppose what I could do mess with Yusuke's winter casual

that looks kinda goofy

idk the point being I've done all that I can think of rn in terms of R&V modding

[jade willow]

Oh yeah, the masks as well!

tbh I dont remember what Yusuke wears for winter casual...

But this hair for him actually makes him really nice looking...

https://gamebanana.com/mods/631281

He looks more like a moody artist lol

[bold mortar]

kinda goofy looking tbh

[jade willow]

😭 is he wearing LEATHER pants hello

[bold mortar]

what I could do actually is just use his vanilla winter uniform in place of the casual outfit

that'd look a bit better

[jade willow]

oh!!!

this mod actually uses new outfits for him as well

[bold mortar]

not my thing tbh

i like Yusuke's hair design as is

[jade willow]

not the promo at the bottom 👀

[bold mortar]

hmm that looks like an interesting mod

it should get many likes and subcribes

[jade willow]

I was like one of your first likes

here since day 1

[bold mortar]

awesome

[jade willow]

I loaded this model and its so far

[bold mortar]

erm

whose model is that

[jade willow]

from the yusuke mod

[bold mortar]

oh right

lion uses an older version of the GMD addon

[jade willow]

I guess I could load it into blender

[bold mortar]

just shift+scroll

btw @cedar hornet update your gmd addon lol

[cedar hornet]

Is that why that happens?

[bold mortar]

yeah

i made the the alternate bangs models with that version of the addon and thats why in gfd they're really zoomed out

but when i updated the new models i made were normal

[cedar hornet]

Def gotta get that updated then

Thank you

[jade willow]

some people like older versions

I forget why something about the textures right? I remember seeing in a guide they recommended a specific version

[bold mortar]

could be

idk i haven't had any problems with the newest version

[jade willow]

🤭 He looks so handsome whaaat

Yusuke male romance WHEN

[bold mortar]

@surreal ermine

[cedar hornet]

Im def excited to not have to shift scroll for every model

[bold mortar]

yeah lol

[jade willow]

I didnt know shift scroll made it go faster

[bold mortar]

it got really bad on some of my models

[jade willow]

I was watching it slowly come into view 😭

[bold mortar]

since i'd update them and they'd zoom out even further

[cedar hornet]

Omg thats terrible

[jade willow]

Why does it do that? Is it just only gfd?

I notice sometimes my models do that randomly

[bold mortar]

idk could be a bug with the older versions of the gmd addon

[jade willow]

is this rose's bun? omg so innovative

[cedar hornet]

I need to update it tbh

Most of the hair could look so much better

[jade willow]

You really cooked with this Lion

I never knew I liked Yusuke until now

[bold mortar]

could probably do some proportional editing

[jade willow]

Kasumi x Yusuke shippers arise

[cedar hornet]

Hes my fav thief

[bold mortar]

akechi's the goat but yusuke would be my second favorite ig

[cedar hornet]

Proportial editing?

[bold mortar]

wrong term actually

but basically here would need to be edited

like the vertices

if you haven't done that already

[cedar hornet]

Im not familiar, im still just figuring stuff out on the fly 😔

[bold mortar]

i'll explain rq

[jade willow]

girl me too 😭 but you probably know way more than I do

[cedar hornet]

Lol i was a Granblue recolorer before this

Its all so new still

[bold mortar]

i did yakuza mods before this so it's the same principle for me

[jade willow]

Well you really ate 💯

I did FFXIV texture editing 💀

which is basically just paint and photostuff

[cedar hornet]

yeah, i'm pretty familiar with photopea

blender not so much

[bold mortar]

ok so using the fur coat as an example

you can see its quite big

and it's quite large on kasumi

[cedar hornet]

right

[bold mortar]

one sec gotta load this in blender

[jade willow]

lol that bodysuit is the one someone asked me to put onto ann 😭

[cedar hornet]

i've been looking at making something for her

[jade willow]

a hairstyle or ?

[bold mortar]

so here is how it looks on kasumi

seems quite big

[cedar hornet]

yeah probably

[bold mortar]

you can use the scaling options, but they aren't terribly precise

so what you do is enter edit mode

and select the vertices

these for instance

click on mesh

transform

and you'll have a few options to play with

usually you'll want move or scale

move can to that for instance

it's only helpful for slight changes

[cedar hornet]

oh yeah i've done some editing like that

[bold mortar]

scaling works a bit better

not here in this instance

since i just deleted the bottom part of the coat

this works better

since you can make them thinner

requires a lot of fine tuning

but it's the best way to go

something i did on the coat model actually was delete up to here

but i needed it to be longer

but i didn't want to restart

moved it down

moved the next section down too

hence proportional editing

but anyways

that's all to say you can precisely fix the yusuke hair model

[jade willow]

not me just using G and S 😭

[cedar hornet]

Ok i'm seeing it

i'm planning on updating that mod soon so i'll try editing the bun a bit more

[bold mortar]

yusuke's hair won't need such drastic edits

just some smaller vertex moving

[peak drift]

Bruh I would pay someone to code in a menu in front of a store or something that allows me to freely just change my outfit and hair like dress up outside of the metaverse.

[bold mortar]

unfortunately you're talking to some modelers here

[peak drift]

lol I know

[bold mortar]

what you could do is make it a suggestion ig

idk that'd be like a whole new framework in itself

[jade willow]

Isnt that already a thing tho?

Costume framework does that no?

[bold mortar]

ig but for like hair and stuff

it'd be complicated

you'd basically need to make it so it can support every new hair mod

and new costumes

[jade willow]

Hair would be like different models, but it would just look like you switched just the hair 😭

[bold mortar]

and account for the special models used in certain events

[bold mortar]

makes me miss dragon engine's system

[cedar hornet]

maybe something like that character creator mod for p3r?

[jade willow]

FFXIV too, you could just swap hair models. Its very nice

[bold mortar]

the way new yakuza games work is that you don't have the meshes in one model

you have different meshes which are called depending on the context

it's annoying to learn but would be quite helpful in Persona's case

and ofc the textures aren't packed into the models so it's way easier to do texture swaps lol

[jade willow]

Hmm

I think I would be happy with just more base game outifts

[bold mortar]

yeah but in game ig

[bold mortar]

i could spend another 24 hours making more

[jade willow]

hahaha

[bold mortar]

though tbh it wouldn't take that long because half the battle really was the fur coat

[cedar hornet]

making outfits lowkey the best part of this

[jade willow]

Well I mean more like

We have a set amount of outfits. Like it would be nice for there to be an outfit that is called specifically for a rainy day for example

But that would need another "slot"

[bold mortar]

you'd need a script for that lol

my ideal mod for P5 rn besides a total overhaul of the story would be like

idk

i guess removing most of morgana's narration

that'd be nice

[cedar hornet]

maybe like a set of different outfits that get randomized per day?

[jade willow]

Would scripting that be difficult? I imagine people would have done it already if it were

[jade willow]

This would be cool!

[bold mortar]

bring back just the internal monologue narration

[cedar hornet]

destroy him

[bold mortar]

feels much better than the cat telling me what to do

[jade willow]

ACTUALLY

I agree!!

I like Mona as a character but not as a navi

https://tenor.com/view/navi-hey-listen-gif-4837431

[bold mortar]

i'm not talking about the battle lines

i'm talking about

"hey you can't go out tonight!"

"you don't like crepes!!"

i'm not talking about gameplay changes though

[jade willow]

No thats what I mean

I meant navi as in from zelda

[bold mortar]

P4 had the same restrictions

it's fine

i just want to feel like the protagonist has more agency

[cedar hornet]

makoto narrated himself and it was way better

[bold mortar]

yeah

and ofc it should be second person like 3 and 4

"you exerted yourself today. best not to go out tonight."

vs.

"HEY HERES MY STUPID ANNOYING VOICE, YOU CAN'T GO OUT BECAUSE REASONS OK"

even the call kawakami option would be vastly improved

"call kawakami?"
vs.
"HEY ARE YOU GOING TO CALL KAWAKAMI?"

like maybe not everything needs you're stupid cat narration

[jade willow]

It would be nice for first person narration. "I'm so tired from going into the metaverse today, better rest"

[bold mortar]

I'm a P4 supremacist so I prefer the second-person narration

oh if only I new how to make these changes

[jade willow]

time to get into scripting

🤝

https://gamebanana.com/mods/441228

You could name it something like this 😭

[bold mortar]

speaking of them i really wish that the no SIU director spoilers mod worked with R&V

[peak drift]

I’d think I’d be more okay with it if it wasn’t always multiple sentences of explanation on why something is happening or why I can’t do something. Then again that’s a P5 problem. All the characters like to yap.

[bold mortar]

true

and on the whole I just despise the grand conspiracy

[peak drift]

It’s the worst in the Shido arc. Like everyone is constantly explaining the same things over and over

[bold mortar]

or more to the point the fact it has to share narrative room with yaldaboath

like just make shido the antagonist

it's fine

||and also get rid of the arrest arc and a the arrest premise too||

one nice thing I'll say about P5X is that the premise is one of the better ones

[peak drift]

I don’t mind it that much. Idk what else they would really do since they do need a testimony.

[bold mortar]

the protagonist actually lives at his own home lol

[bold mortar]

idk i'd just rewrite the story to remove that

but barring that

don't have akechi have the super stupid death scene

[peak drift]

That pretty much changing the whole story at that point lol

[bold mortar]

yeah exactly

i want the story to be changed fundamentally

[peak drift]

I don’t mind it. I feel like it gives the protagonist motivators. And ties into the central themes of persona 5.

[jade willow]

for my next outfit mod im thinking of this apron... 👀

[peak drift]

Cute!

[jade willow]

I think it would be!

I have too many wips rn...

[bold mortar]

in my case i hate the central theme so i'm ok making a completely new plot

[peak drift]

I guess you have something to look forward to with persona 6. It will be an entirely different game.

[bold mortar]

idk i'm scared what they'll do

P5 was wildly popular so I think they'll lean into it more than P3 or 4

like it would be horrible if they kept confidants instead of social links

[peak drift]

I don’t think they are gonna arrest their main protag again

[bold mortar]

yeah i don't think they'll sink that low again

i imagine they'll have the decently to have the protagonist be somewhere where people actually like him

[peak drift]

Every persona game has a different theme so they will do what matches their core concept

[bold mortar]

no more rebellion

rebellion is dumb!

[jade willow]

Whats the difference between confidants and social links

[bold mortar]

the function is mostly the same

i just dislike the idea that every relationship has to be based on a "deal"

like the idea that relationships are transactional is repulsive to me

[peak drift]

I mean tbh they are functionally transactional in every game. From a game play standpoint

[jade willow]

I enjoy that actually

It mirrors real life

[bold mortar]

Not really

[peak drift]

I think in persona 5 it comes across more as you can learn something from anyone

Exp and stuff for personas

[bold mortar]

S. Links in 3 and 4 don't give you any gameplay benefits like 5

And again I'm complaining about the presentation more than anything

[jade willow]

Also do the other persona games have you become friends with such a variety of people?

[bold mortar]

Yeah

Well 3 and 4

Since s. links were introduced in 3

[bold mortar]

If you want to have gameplay benefits

Fine whatever

Just stop portraying making friends as a transaction

[peak drift]

Gameplay effects narrative

In game design we are taught that

[bold mortar]

And ofc bring back school clubs

5 is severely lacking on account of it's dumb premise

[peak drift]

Yeah though tbh Shujin students probably wouldn’t let joker join. It would be cool if we got our stats up in charm or kindness if they let us join

[bold mortar]

Yeah ik because of the premise

Even then you could explain it away by having clubs open up after kamoshida

And speaking of that, next to nobody apologizes to you for the rumors

It's crazy

[peak drift]

I think they could have tied it to stats. Probably ran out of development time since I know they have concepts of it.

[bold mortar]

Idk i guess I'm just hoping for more p4

[peak drift]

Yeah

[bold mortar]

P4 was so perfect

Good character moments, low stakes plot, nice environment...

[jade willow]

And cute family dynamic!

[bold mortar]

Yeah that too

[jade willow]

I loved Nanako

[bold mortar]

Sojiro kinda sucks

[peak drift]

That makes 4 special

[jade willow]

playing as a big brother was kinda cool

[bold mortar]

Yeah ofc

[jade willow]

I like that in R&V Sojiro isnt such a jerk

Like why are you so MEAN

[bold mortar]

But the difference is p4 is harder to mod so I'm stuck here

[bold mortar]

And also I've already played it like 8 times

[peak drift]

At least the remake will probably be easier

[bold mortar]

Nope

UE sucks

I refuse to mod it

[jade willow]

loool

I guess youre stuck here with us

[peak drift]

It’s worse than modding original p4?

[bold mortar]

Also I dislike remakes in principle

[bold mortar]

IDK but I'm not doing it

Ever again

Ishin Kiwami was bad enough

[peak drift]

I guess I learned Unreal in school so I forgot how it might not be user friendly

[bold mortar]

Also I just think it sucks

Maybe if p3r and p4 remake were on the p5 engine

But I don't see a point

I like OG p4 and I have no reason at all to drop $70 for a remake I know will be inferior

[peak drift]

How so?

[bold mortar]

Script changes, bland graphics, mediocre ui, unreal engine, etc.

and btw this is from someone who prefers P3R over the original

well mostly

[jade willow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8MZr0i5co0

@cedar hornet did you see this???

[cedar hornet]

omg no way

thats so cool

imma give this a watch

[jade willow]

hahaha thats so fun

[bold mortar]

where did you get the hair mesh from anyways?

[cedar hornet]

necroneos on deviantart

i think i linked them on the mod page

[jade willow]

@surreal ermine mentioned as well

[bold mortar]

i see

wonder if i should try my hand at a harder port

[jade willow]

bester honorable mention

[cedar hornet]

the amv 😂

[bold mortar]

lol

[raw marlin]

He’s just like that

He loves FEMCs man

[jade willow]

These mods are sooo cuteee

omg actually its really giving odile and odette

[molten finch]

Sister Duo Attack~

[jade willow]

They are tooo cute

I wonder how hard it would be to swap out sakura leotard model

[molten finch]

you mean the one with Kasumi wearing Pink Gymnastics?

[jade willow]

Yeah!

It would make a bit more sense I think if it didnt switch to her in the pink leotard

I wonder if you'd have to mess with animations tho

[molten finch]

oh yeah I like to see that get changed too

[molten finch]

hopefully that isn't hardmodded or something

aka really hard to mod there

[jade willow]

could be

[molten finch]

mmhmm

[random hinge]

"That Kasumi" looks much more difficult to edit than the regular models. It has a special pose and there's the png at the start of the animation I'm not even sure how it can be edited
#1351304235320348683 message

You can praise smug Kasumi here if you'd like
#1351304235320348683 message

[jade willow]

Oh woww. Why did they make it like thaat

I thought surely it would be simple as dropping in a GMD

[bold mortar]

I'm getting closer to the incognito segment

Getting closer to being very annoyed

[jade willow]

lmao

Its kinda cute though

[bold mortar]

Plot aside, I also just dislike not being able to use the winter casual outfit

[jade willow]

Hmm. I feel like you use the winter outfit so much.

Probably the most of them all

[bold mortar]

I feel the opposite

Feels like you use the summer outfit the most

Maybe the incognito segment feels longer than it is

Maybe it's just annoying that the winter outfit doesn't get the full month like summer does with summer break

And you only get it back after shido for a few days before midwinter

[jade willow]

Idk

Some day we have to sit down and count the days because I swear the winter outfit is more used

To be fair I might be biased cause I love my summer outfits

[bold mortar]

Well summer is like early June to October I think

And that includes like all of August

[jade willow]

Also! I edited Sumi (for private use) so she can look prettier in the "Odile" look

[jade willow]

Some of September as well tbf

Or no, youre right its in October

[bold mortar]

Compsred to that, winter is april to june, then october to november 22, then like the last couple days of december

And you usually only get it on sundays and ig at night too

[jade willow]

I guess it is the least used outfit

I guess it feels more because it switches back so often

[bold mortar]

I remember Zylvos had the idea of replacing the incognito outfit with the winter one

I suppose the way to do that would be to swap the ponytail for long hair

And the glasses too probably

And just make that for each winter casual

[bold mortar]

@random hinge do you have any thoughts on this?

[random hinge]

That's doable as a config option

Making it for the next update, though... I'll have to see

Story wise, obviously, it's recommended to stick to the gym outfit

[jade willow]

By the way, Zylos, I noticed in mudkip's intro they seemed to have modded Sumi's showtime (I think?)

It wasn't in the guide but maybe if theyre in the server I could ask them about it. I'm not sure if that's something you've talked about already

[bold mortar]

Yeah I don't want to dump any more work onto you lol

Just a thought I had

[random hinge]

I haven't asked mudkip. It's definitely doable, but I have no idea how to transfer the pose (or the armature?) to the new model and place it correctly where the original is

It's more of Blender skill issue on my part

[random hinge]

Nah, don't worry. I'm not no progressing as much as I'd like with the next update, so adding more stuff is making me wonder when I'll have it done. If anything, I can add that to the update after

I don't mind updating even for minor things like adding a new bustup

[molten finch]

My fave Summer Casual Outfit for Kasumi/Rose, as gotta thank Lolsu for removing the hairpins & swapping the shoes+socks for Sumire's Vanilla Summer Casual Sandal as it's a very good fit~ ❤️

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/232037676759384064/1436544546635780136/Preview.png?ex=6919385d&is=6917e6dd&hm=1d4dfc3603d616c236fefd4f050411719e7839bf7d9b86e277b00a7e6a22f745&

Alternate download link ver can be found here: https://gamebanana.com/mods/628434

[rich tree]

Is there a way to replace this outfit that she wears from oct to Jan? with Rise's midwinter coat?

[random hinge]

Sure, you just need to rename the file for Rise midwinter model to C0001_002_00.GMD

And replace it in:
kasumi_as_protagonist_-alternate_models-_ponytail_variant1_3_1\Characters\Joker\1\MODEL\CHARACTER\

Make a backup of the old file and rename it to oldC0001_002_00.GMD

That way, you can go back to it

Just so you know, this will not replace the model in Kasumi awakening event and in the interrogations events. Those are separate models

[rich tree]

woot it worked

its to damn cute to only see it in January

[random hinge]

@buoyant arch I forgot to ask you yesterday, but do you have the latest portrait you made with the eyes already in place? It's for the foggy glasses portrait

[jade willow]

I see! I wonder if the new armature would work with the animation.

I will try and message mudkip today and see if they are willing to share what they did! For reference here is the video if you haven't seen it: it's just in the intro and the rest of the video does model importing guide

https://youtu.be/6f8BiGTvCWY?t=30

[random hinge]

Oh yeah, I know this guide. This is probably the only guide I've ever watched on Blender, ahah

The thing is, I don't really know what to replace that model with

It can't dynamically change to match Kasumi's appearance because it's a separate model

If I replace it with the PT outfit, I'll have to do it for each variant of the PT outfit

And with all of that, does that make sense to replace this model?

[jade willow]

uuuh no I wouldnt do that haha. It could be the PT outfit but like the black one only like in the menu art (in my opinion ofc!!)

It was just a thought, but if you feel its already fine then thats great!

[random hinge]

If I replaced Kasumi with her PT costume, I'd still be weird for her to disappear and reappear at the end. I kinda like the idea of Sumire feeling like she's finally performing like an equal/rival of Kasumi when she was a gymnast, while the real Kasumi is in the background

[jade willow]

Thats a cute idea actually

I just thought it would be cute if they were together finally performing too!

[random hinge]

Well, that's how I rationalize it as it is right now

Since making a new showtime altogether isn't something I can (and I don't think it's ever been done)

[jade willow]

I think before making a new showtime it would be easier (in comparison to that) to change the EPL so she stays instead of disappearing. Of course all is easier said than actually done Im aware!

I personally would be happy just with a model swap, so I think its worth talking to mudkip and seeing if they know anything. If I find anything out I'll post here in case anyone else is interested too

[buoyant arch]

oh yeah, i forgot about that

just a sec

here you go

@random hinge

[random hinge]

Thanks!

[jade willow]

Message sent now we pray

[buoyant arch]

very much welcome. Lmk if anything else comes up

[safe pebble]

@random hinge not sure if this is the right place to ask but i recently commissioned some alternate outfits (courtesy of @pseudo dock) for kasumi and don't really wanna go through the hassle of posting them on gamebanana, so i was wondering if you wanted to include them in your alternate models mod instead, or i can just drop them here if anybody wants them

alrernate summer uniform and alternate workout clothes

[molten finch]

I do like the left one

Reminds me of her wearing Sumire's Summer Uniform there~

[random hinge]

They look nice!
You can post them here, I'll see if I can include them in the next update

[safe pebble]

okay! feel free to credit croissant guard for them! 💕

[random hinge]

Okay, so this is going to take longer than expected

Or I'm going to rename it to Rayman outfit

[safe pebble]

alternate workout clothes:

alternate pink cardigan summer uniform:

[random hinge]

Thanks!

I'll make sure to credit Croissant Guard for those

[jade willow]

Those are sooo cute!

[random hinge]

Just to be sure with the credits and how I should name those outfits : where do they come from? I assume the pink sweater one is the from P5X, with the girl who gets subway slammed

[surreal ermine]

lmao yeah

the one on the right looks familiar too

[safe pebble]

they're all from p5x

LOL

tamayo yoshida is the NPCs name

for the gym outfit

[random hinge]

Alright, thanks. That should help with naming them

[jade willow]

So I edited what Mudkip made (with them showing me every step of the way lol) which is why Kotone is still there. Ill probably replace the models with the vanilla sumi png there until I figure out how to replace it

[surreal ermine]

omg both my mods! lol

[jade willow]

lol yeah!

I love red sumi

and the gmd I switched it out for what the black vers. of her outfit so I wanted contrast

[molten finch]

Sumire or Kasumi? Cuz when I see the name Sumi, I almost think of Sumire at first

[jade willow]

in this case both

kaSUMI SUMIre I use both nicknames for them lol

[molten finch]

Hmmkay!

[surreal ermine]

i usually say sumi when i'm trying not to spoiler sumire

[jade willow]

actually I forgot to mark it as a spoiler

[safe pebble]

aaaaaaaaah i gotta do this on my game

[surreal ermine]

it's fine in this thread. you're not supposed to play this mod without having played p5r anyway lmao

[jade willow]

Yeaah! I love how theyre having like a duet. (I havent played Sumire's social rank max) but Im sure that it would flow nicely with the social link story and theyre closer

[jade willow]

I know Id just hate to spoil someone by accident 😭

[surreal ermine]

i think if someone plays this mod without having played p5r before it's their own fault

[jade willow]

this is just toooo cute

But basically as Mudkip explained to me for the models specifically, you need to grab a GMD and pack in the animations and then pack those into the EPL

I wanted to try and swap out the .png for this pose in blender but no luck yet

[molten finch]

I think it makes sense to call Sumire Sumi lol

[surreal ermine]

i think that looks decent

[molten finch]

Lmfao

[surreal ermine]

the kotone

[molten finch]

Can't wait for this to be included in R&V Update

[molten finch]

Also I do love how Sumire is the one with White Leotard & Long Hair Ribbon Model while Kasumi is Ponytail with Ribbon and wearing Black Sister Leotard as the best difference there~ 🥳🙌

[jade willow]

its hella scuffed 😭 buuut maybe it wont look too bad in the eye

[surreal ermine]

it goes by super quick too. people aren't going to be looking that hard

(aside from us, obviously...)

[jade willow]

The only other thing is that it looks like physics are not applied to her outfit

but it doesnt look as bad as I thought it would tbh

Also in her reflection her face is blue, I think thats a personal issue in my game though because it was doing that in my untouched ST

Also looks like theyre missing their rapiers

[random hinge]

@bold mortar I'm sending you back the two midwinter outfits you made with the alternate bangs. I've cleaned up the textures/materials and adjusted the "collar" on the fur coat to reduce clipping with the ponytail/long hair. Also, I've fixed the feet disappearing on the midwinter casual (mesh issue, not a bone issue)

[bold mortar]

Thanks

[jade willow]

lol i hate textures

[bold mortar]

debating whether to use the turtleneck uniform on my neck run

it does look pretty good with the makoto hair though

and i'll definitely use that with my next run

[jade willow]

the suspenders are cute too

giving her a ponytail for bedtime

[bold mortar]

just the one side?

[jade willow]

hahaha yeah so its actually pigtails. I kinda wanted a side ponytail but I dont know if its too far

[bold mortar]

might be a bit much for the sleeping model yeah

[jade willow]

Like the side ponytail in general? or just too far to the left?

I just felt like her hair down looked like it would be super hot and messy to sleep through 😭

[bold mortar]

yeah the the too far to the left

[bold mortar]

idk i feel like it'd be weird though to have a ponytail while sleeping

i've never heard of anyone tying their hair into a ponytail to sleep

[jade willow]

Idk I definitely dont sleep with my hair down. I let Kasumi slide with it because her hair is like pin straight and anime girls tend to do that, but in real life most girls tie their hair back from what I know

You wake up with your hair in your mouth all across your face like the grudge 💀

[bold mortar]

idk i'm not a woman so i wouldn't know

[jade willow]

Yeaaah 😭 or maybe its just me. To be fair I get hot very easily

[bold mortar]

idk it just seems counterintuitive to me

[jade willow]

I guess?

actually I should find a cute scrunchie for her

[bold mortar]

idk to me it doesn't make sense to tie up your hair like that right befor bed

and also ofc you gotta worry about how it'd look in game

[jade willow]

I like it! Im gonna see how it looks sleeping and stuff before going all in cause if her ponytail disappears into the bed its gonna be awkward

[bold mortar]

yeah that's my concern with it

[jade willow]

not too bad I think

[bold mortar]

yeah its pretty good

[jade willow]

I really am liking the brown hair color for this style though

I wonder if red will look too busy

A part of me feels like Ill never publish this mod cause I wont be able to make it well enough

[bold mortar]

instead of red you should do the strawberry blonde

[jade willow]

lol the strawberry blonde was not bad

Also sometimes her hair was black from shading issues and that also looked nice

[bold mortar]

black hair might be cool

one thing i'd give joker is that he's the single protagonist with black hair

[jade willow]

That actually really bothered me when I first played the game

Everyone felt very not Japanese

Like for example, Ann REALLY irks me

[bold mortar]

i mean ann is supposed to be part white

but yeah otherwise i think the need to differentiate the named NPCs can go too far sometimes

[jade willow]

She's supposed to be like a quarter american or something? Iirc Finnish?

[bold mortar]

yeah something like that

[jade willow]

But it just seems very unrealistic to me that she would have blonde hair and blue eyes being a quarter white

[bold mortar]

eh

i don't think it's that unlikely

[jade willow]

Like, most half Japanese people look mixed. It would have been nicer if she had more Japanese features, too

Actually, I take back what I said

Apparently she is half finnish, half american, and half Japanese

[bold mortar]

takamaki is apparently a finnish surname

[jade willow]

I read that as well! Its funny because it sounds very Japanese to me

[bold mortar]

i think its a japanese surname too

reminds me of the 19th century belief that finns are asians

[jade willow]

Actually I think Ive heard of something like that before, too. That a long time ago a lot of asians moved to Finland for some reason? Pretty vague in my memory

also apparently Futaba was meant to have black hair?

I should make a mod where everyone's hair is returned to black

[surreal ermine]

futaba probably just dyes her hair

[bold mortar]

basically it comes from the idea that finns and hungarian, being uralic peoples, have roots in central asia

and it's not really that outlandish

Bulgarians also come from central asia

[surreal ermine]

i don't think ann's heritage is ever confirmed. we just know she can speak english because she lived in america for a bit, and that she is only 25% white

[bold mortar]

yeah the finnish thing is just conjecture i think

[surreal ermine]

which makes no sense... she would not have blond hair and blue eyes if she was only 1/4 white

her being finnish came from people trying to rationalize her last name

bc i'm pretty sure she said her white comes from her dad's side

but if she's 25%, easily her grandma on her dad's side could've been the white one

if i were to headcanon it up, ann's dad was born in america to a japanese immigrant father. he eventually moved to japan and met ann's mother, then they moved back to america for a period after ann was born, then came back

the reason it's highly unlikely for a child like her to have blond hair and blue eyes is because both fo those traits are recessive and can only present if both parents are carrying the gene

i find it unlikely her japanese mother was carrying those recessive alleles

ok nerding out done

[jade willow]

Yeah Idk I wish they just made her a foreign exchange student or more clearly half white and half Japanese

People online seem to think she's half finnish / half american and half Japanese, but even still considering her features are recessive it would be very unlikely for her to have them

Idk I just head canon shes born in japan but is white because it makes the most sense for me

[safe pebble]

we need a rise as protagonist mod

she's so babygirl

and i adore her with all my heart

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-persona-persona-4-animation-gif-3995231903997342348

[jade willow]

She is super cute

She can be an idol

[jade willow]

any opinions on this outfit for sleepwear? Idk I might just revert it to default

[random hinge]

@safe pebble @pseudo dock After looking at the models, there's a few changes I'd like to make to them. Since they were made as a commission, I don't want to edit them without the approval from you two. The changes I'd like to make are (so far):
Kotomo model :

• Edit the shoes so they're removable during events that requires it. I'll just black socks with the right bones.
• Personally, I think a red bow would match the other ribbon around her neck. Was the black color requested specifically?
• For consistency, I think it'd better if the short under the skirt is black.
• The model has the earrings from the Yukari models. Was this requested? I'm not a huge fan of them, but I don't mind keeping them.
  Gym outfit:
• I'm not a huge fan of that bow (outside the Phantom Thief outfit). I'd like to replace with another existing bow or the pink hair tie that's used on the gym outfit with the red tank top. Again, was that requested specifically?

[random hinge]

Funny, it's kind of similar to the original sleepwear in the first version of Wisteria's mod.
There's something on her shoulders?

[jade willow]

Yess, I realized there is some overlaying skin texture there I need to adjust!

This is actually that same outfit but with the leggings removed.

I also made the shorts a bit longer

[coral prawn]

Where did you get that information

It's completely false

I swear to god no one reads confidant descriptions

It was only said that she lived in Finland for a brief period of time

[pseudo dock]

Everything except the shoes were requested. Besides that I don't really mind, it's up to eve really.

[safe pebble]

you can add in the option for a red bow on the summer uniform! and turn the shorts black for it... also you can edit the shoes to be removable as well!

you can change the gym outfit hair tie as well, i don't mind :)

[random hinge]

Noted! Just to clarify : since you said "option", you prefer the black bow for the summer uniform?

For the ponytail, the red bow looks nice I think

[safe pebble]

i specifically asked for the black bow on the long hair variant but idm the red either!

[random hinge]

Then black bow it is for the long hair 😉
I'd rather having only one color available, so I don't have to duplicate the models/options

[rich tree]

any chance we could get a pink or blue option for her umbrella?

[random hinge]

@safe pebble Does that pink band work for you? It's the same as the red tank top gym outfit

[random hinge]

Maybe later. I'll have to limit colors here because I feel like I'm going to get bombarded with requests

[rich tree]

fair enough disregard it

[random hinge]

Nah, don't worry. I'll consider it, but there can easily be a lot of requests for that too

Also, one of the umbrella is bit tricky to edit iirc

I think it doesn't open in GFD or Blender, I don't remember which one

[safe pebble]

it looks great!

[random hinge]

Alright then, I'll go with that hair tie

I think I'll keep the black ribbon for the long hair variant

[jade willow]

I like her yellow umbrella. It's the one she actually used in canon 🥰

[raw marlin]

Anywhere else that needs to be blue?

[random hinge]

The Kotomo model has hair/face named vertex groups in the chest mesh. This isn't working well

[raw marlin]

Kasumi I think you’re missing something

[random hinge]

Okay, so the model wasn't liking the Sumire hair chunk I'm using for all the other models. Reusing the hair chunk from the base models eve sent me makes it work again

[granite wren]

Kasumi brave enough to show off her personal hole in reality

[raw marlin]

Very brave

[rich tree]

thats a cute PJ outfit though I still prefer the pony tail

[errant zenith]

Someone ate her side

[gaunt juniper]

Man, I went to work on a few personal projects and I've come back to a plethora of new Kasumi hairstyles and outfits.

[granite wren]

She's just so fun to dress up in new outfits

[hollow owl]

Kasumi out here getting love and attention

[errant zenith]

Omg Kasumi is actually my dress up darling I just realized

[bold mortar]

Yeah I've dedicated so many hours this week just to play dress up lol

[errant zenith]

From Atlus outfits to outside of Atlus outfits

It’s awesome

[molten finch]

Just like Kotone fans giving her a lot of love and attention~

[jade willow]

👀

[granite wren]

Ommmgggggg

https://tenor.com/view/cuteness-overload-so-cute-gif-14116092

[jade willow]

tsubasa has a laaarge bust

[granite wren]

Yeah, TMS had a late teenage cast so it tracks

but it CAN be scaled down

her pink palette just fits Rose so well though

[random hinge]

@bold mortar Those are the two models commissioned by eve to Croissant Guard, with the alternate bangs. They'll be added in my next update of the models mod

You'll just need to credit Croissant Guard (and P5X as a source for the models) in your bangs mod

[granite wren]

if you do manage to sort the bust scaling out though you'll be my hero

[random hinge]

I'm getting prepared to update the mods

If you have personal edits or custom models, make a backup of them before updating

[jade willow]

its happening!!

[granite wren]

[raw marlin]

Zylvos is there anything else?

[bold mortar]

Ok

[bold mortar]

yeah i better do that for my versions of the summer uniform and the yukari outfit lol

before i update my mod

[jade willow]

well I will test it in game now

[granite wren]

[random hinge]

I don't see anything else, if you're recoloring the red part to blue. The reddish glow is from the background

Rose and Violet updated

If you're curious about Sumire's rank 10, here's a spoiler:

[surreal ermine]

AWWW

[granite wren]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[jade willow]

THATS SO CUTEE

[raw marlin]

AAAAAAWWWWWW

[random hinge]

Models mods updated

I hope I haven't forgotten anything. I can feel Wisteria's pain when multiple people were contributing at the same time now

[rich tree]

how do you deal with a ghost bag? i posted a photo in the other chat

.<

[bold mortar]

W

[errant zenith]

Huge

[bold mortar]

ok time to update my mods now

[errant zenith]

Bester got the Masumi Profile pic

[bold mortar]

who

[errant zenith]

Makoto+Kasumi=Masumi

[rich tree]

woot bag free and looking cute

[bold mortar]

oh yeah

hmm i gotta edit the new models too

[surreal ermine]

looks like i'm spending some time making red rose versions of these models

ough i gotta edit the config too

[bold mortar]

gotta make versions for the makoto hair mod too

[jade willow]

Now I can try the fur coat mod with the rise hair

Material girl 💅

[bold mortar]

ok i think i've changed every model

which means i gotta update alternate bangs and then make all the new changes for the makoto hair mod

[bold mortar]

tf

why isn't the mod showing the reloaded ii install button

[jade willow]

Sometimes it takes up to 5 mins

[bold mortar]

idk everything else loads fine

so something is up with this

i'll give it another couple minutes

ig

[surreal ermine]

that's weird

did you change the update stuff?

the api could also be down

[bold mortar]

wdym?

[surreal ermine]

did you fuck around with the update tab again

[bold mortar]

wdym by that?

[surreal ermine]

nvm

[bold mortar]

i just published it normally and then uploaded it

[bold mortar]

do you mean this?

[surreal ermine]

yeah

looks fine

[bold mortar]

idk then

i'll try publishing and uploading it again

[jade willow]

the program had an update today

Maybe its related?

[bold mortar]

idk zylvos' update worked just fine

[surreal ermine]

reloaded has an update?

[bold mortar]

yeah it updated today

[surreal ermine]

oh i haven't been prompted yet

[jade willow]

I ignored that prompt lol

manually managing files >

[bold mortar]

ok ig i'll downgrade it and see

[jade willow]

this top is giving me such a hard time I might start over

[surreal ermine]

oh right i haven't been prompted because i use 2.5

[granite wren]

https://tenor.com/view/you-can-do-it-gif-25785014

[bold mortar]

yeah now it works

ig theres a probablem with the new R2 update

anyways guys

now alternate bangs is uploaded

time to make the makoto hair update now

[bold mortar]

ig one of the downsides though for this for me is idk if the update prompt appears

can't really test that

[jade willow]

is textures hard for everyone or am I just silly?

[bold mortar]

idk what problem are you having

also i think i've finished the update for the makoto hair models

[jade willow]

What update? For the new outfits?

[bold mortar]

yeah

[bold mortar]

Epic now both are updated

[errant zenith]

[bold mortar]

i should probably change my GB name to match my username better lol

[bold mortar]

i decided it was easier just to make a separate mod for this

makes it easier than replacing the files every time i update my mod

[jade willow]

Kasumi is so cute

She works well with so many hairstyles, its hard to choose

[bold mortar]

suppose i might release these

dunno who'd use them though

[bold mortar]

btw whats the issue you're having here?

[jade willow]

Idk, I was messing with the textures of this model and trying to get it to use the same mats as another p5 model but now the uv maps are a mess

I think in the future Ill make sure the textures on straight before messing with the mesh

[bold mortar]

good idea

[jade willow]

omg bester

do you know about this mystical feature called the sculpt tool!?

omg no Im freaking out that was sooo much easier than moving the vertices around

[bold mortar]

yeah

i use it sometimes in conjunction with vertex editing

it's something that should be used in moderation though

sometimes you can end up with weird looking stuff because of it

[jade willow]

It seems to work fine with animations at least (in blender)

Very nice to adjust just a specific area like a too large bust

[bold mortar]

yeah ofc

just speaking from experience, don't go overboard with it

[jade willow]

omg I think the issue is this mesh didnt have a uv0 map for its texture

[jade willow]

😭

[bold mortar]

the evil one

[jade willow]

her eyes look HUGE

[bold mortar]

no eyelids here

[bold mortar]

just realized i could use this to implement my incognito idea

[jade willow]

What do you mean?

[bold mortar]

since i've been complaining incessantly about the the fact that a month's worth of time that could've had the winter casual outfit was stolen by the incognito arc

i could make a my own incognito outfit

[jade willow]

Like the winter outfit with glasses?

[bold mortar]

yeah something like that

gonna make it rq

[jade willow]

"rq" is crazy

[bold mortar]

hair swaps should take all of a minute lol

[bold mortar]

see all done

well it'll need some slight editing

[surreal ermine]

holy fuck that's terrifying

creepypasta

[jade willow]

That Yukari texture edit does look very nice...

I can see why you want the winter outfits to last longer

[jade willow]

Free nightmare fuel before sleep 🥰 🫶

Here is my current progress with fixing the textures

[surreal ermine]

i feel bad for people making models with no textures initally. that is scary

[bold mortar]

works in game too

now i need to fix this

[jade willow]

I have nooo idea about that. Textures are the new magical mystical thing in blender for me

Im gonna try onee more thing and then rest

[surreal ermine]

famous last words

[jade willow]

real

[bold mortar]

fixed

[jade willow]

how did you do that

[bold mortar]

vertex editing

[surreal ermine]

keep in mind though that those strands of hair move

they'll probably still clip

[bold mortar]

oh yeah probably

i'll probably end up testing it more whenever i get to the incognito segment

just rn that's what i've done

[random hinge]

I will update the ponytail variant when I get home from work because:

• I've mixed up the fancy fur coat casual and eiko's casual outfit in the costume folders,
• L7M3 finished the long hair bustup for the new version of their portraits.

[random hinge]

Let me know if you want to go by another name, I used Bester everywhere except in the credit section of GB. I think you can change your username on GB?

[bold mortar]

yeah i noticed that when i was updating my mod

though i thought that was me just copying something wrong

[bold mortar]

I'll probably change it to some variation of Bester, it's just unfortunate that someone already took it