(P5R PC) Rose & Violet - Story overhaul

[errant zenith]

ah

[mossy marlin]

just sayin...

[errant zenith]

Put the lad on a leash

[random hinge]

Models mods are updated with the configuration options. I need a drink.

[red panther]

with the new costumes, it really feels like a 100% FemC experience for P5R 😭 I’m so emotional seeing it. At first, it was just model swaps, now it’s a full story, new outfits, hair, everything. It’s beautiful to watch it all come together

[coral prawn]

i'm definitely doing a 100% run when we get animated cutscenes and what not

[red panther]

I think that one’s gonna take a while, there are just so many cutscenes 🤔

[coral prawn]

i can wait, i finished my first playthrough with the mod a few weeks ago

[crimson kite]

I'm getting close to the end on my run, definitely gonna do a second one once even more stuff is added. ||I need to reciprocate Mishima's crush, dammit!||

[coral prawn]

i'm gonna reject bro even after male romances are added

there's only place for one person in my heart and that's ryuji

akechi's still getting rank 1 just like last time

[bold mortar]

🔥

[errant zenith]

[gaunt juniper]

Ok now Kasumi is done.

[errant zenith]

Lez go

[granite wren]

[mossy marlin]

Pretty good

[errant zenith]

[surreal ermine]

looks like I have some work to do with red rose today

[surreal ermine]

omg!!

[random hinge]

They're texture optimized, so it should be an easy texture swap

[surreal ermine]

oh thanks for that lol

[random hinge]

Yeah, might as well optimize the new models

I'll do it for the old models at some point

[surreal ermine]

it'll def lower file size

[random hinge]

By my estimates, it will lower file size by 15 to 20%

Not great, not terrible

[surreal ermine]

[random hinge]

It seems like some meshes (Kotone's hair, especially) are very heavy for some reason

[surreal ermine]

I wonder why the white leotard models specifically are giant

[random hinge]

It could be DDS format for the textures. BC7 is the best quality available, so maybe it's heavier than the DDS files that are currently in the game files

I'll happily trade a few MB for better textures/resolution

[spare oak]

i would totally consider using the yukari one if it weren't for those boots

[safe pebble]

really minor request but would it be possible to change the ribbon color on the yukari winter casual outfit from red to black (long hair variant)? sort like the ribbon she wears on her default leotard, i think it fits more with the outfit imo

[random hinge]

Uh, maybe

[humble trail]

yukiko winte casual look so good with thr roses on skirt though why black ribbon? instead of just sticking to the red one?

[rancid falcon]

You can change the ribbon color yourself easily by swapping the hair textures in GFD Studio.

[humble trail]

oh okok

[lethal geode]

found a typo here, missing a "you" between "Are" and "going"

[safe pebble]

how do i do that 🤔

[rancid falcon]

To extract the hair texture, just open one of Kasumi's models in GFD Studio, (CC0010_167_00.GMD, her Shadow Ops costume, has a black ribbon), click the + icon beside the model name to open the drop-down menu, then navigate to Textures. Then it's as simple as right clicking the texture name and clicking Export.

(Excuse the image quality. Couldn't quite recall the keyboard shortcut for screencaps and Snip & Sketch wasn't cooperating.)

Replacing the hair texture is as simple as clicking Replace instead, then selecting the texture file you just exported.

[radiant plume]

the reason they were suggesting it is because they didn't know how to do it themselves and probably don't want the hassle of learning tools they don't know

[molten finch]

[safe pebble]

i'll try it out tomorrow, just didn't have any time earlier to test it out but i'm always down to learn new things, which is why i asked how to do it LOL 😅 plus it seems simple enough (i think)

[surreal ermine]

it's not black and is in fact green

from the midwinter casual outfit

it has a different shape and model so it's not easy to replace

i had wisteria do it for my red rose mod... lol

once i've got that i can put the brown hair back and eyes for you and tell you where to put the models

[random hinge]

GFDstudio is useful to preview models and export textures, but I don't recommend replacing the textures in GFDstudio. Do it in Blender instead.
The reason is GFDstudio will not automatically rename the texture after replacing it, which means you will be replacing all the red ribbon in the game by the black one. You can rename textures in GFDstudio, but then you also need to go the material and reassign the new texture name to it.
Swapping the texture in Blender is as simple as importing it and changing the diffuse texture in shading.
Also, the latest versions GFDstudio tend not to export material properties, so it looks all wrong in game. That's why I'm doing most things with Blender now

[rancid falcon]

Ah good to know. I really oughta get more familiar with blender.

[safe pebble]

does this apply to the long hair alternative version as well?

i always thought that the ribbons for the long hair version were all the same shape

[surreal ermine]

no. long hair's ribbon is a texture

just swap em

[safe pebble]

i'll try when i get home

if i mess up i may need help and ask questions 😭

[granite wren]

So say you have a working model now (moi, I asked a friend and they taught me the wonders of the Shading section)
and you wanna move the clothes over to Kasumi (I know the chest would need to go down but I thiiink Blender can do that, I can look at that when I have a Kasumi to contrast with)

Would you use this GFDStudio program to get a Kasumi model out and into Blender so you can do the scaling and everything? Or is there a different way people have been using, like for example take the Yukari dress one, how did Yukari go out and Kasumi go in

I'm kinda stoked now I've figured this part out and I sorta want to see if I can make an outfit or two now rather than just praying someone else will

[surreal ermine]

as long as you have gfs tools I'm p sure you can just import a gmd model

[granite wren]

Cheers

[surreal ermine]

to test the model use gfdstudio yes

bc if it doesn't load in gfdstudio it won't load in-game

[granite wren]

Awesome, good to know

[granite wren]

Don't talk to me or my Tsubasa ever again
Thanks again Raven, making baby steps

[granite wren]

I need to learn to move the arms (for now I'm just previewing by hiding the real model's arms) but hey progress is progress

[errant zenith]

kasumi joined the idol life

[granite wren]

Okay, moved the arms 🙏
I'm going to take a break for today, is it alright if I ask some more questions tomorrow? I don't want to choke up the thread

[surreal ermine]

you can probably talk in Kasumi as protag thread, since that's more about the cosmetic replacement

[granite wren]

[safe pebble]

if you end up using the other casual outfit with the pink cardigan as an alternative summer outfit i'll owe you my life 🙏

[granite wren]

[granite wren]

I'll add that to continuing to look into it tomorrow, as it really comes out pretty
and I'll move over to KaP thread but wanted to share from here

[safe pebble]

SOOOOO CUTE

[errant zenith]

what the bust size

[safe pebble]

yeah i was gonna say damn she grew two cup sizes 😭

the outfit is so cute though

[errant zenith]

In order to be an idol one must stuff bra

[errant zenith]

i def see this as summer cas

[molten finch]

Hmm does Tsubasa have a Summer Dress outfit or no? 🤔

[errant zenith]

https://fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Costumes_in_Tokyo_Mirage_Sessions_♯FE i went through the outfits and pretty sure theres no season outfits

pretty sure tms takes place in the summer

[surreal ermine]

red ribbon yukiko winter casual model (thanks to zylvos's teaching) @safe pebble . put it in /OptionalModFiles/WinterCasualOutfit/YukikoWinterCasual/MODEL/CHARACTER/0001
then duplicate it and rename that duplicate C0001_111_00.GMD to replace the other file

brown hair, ofc

i'll do the rise midwinter casual as well. i think it looks good with the white ribbon

[surreal ermine]

forgot to say put this in /Costumes/Joker as well and name it "Yukiko Winter Casual.GMD"

Copy this into /Costumes/Joker and /OptionalModFiles/MidwinterCasualOutfit/RiseMidwinterCasual/MODEL/CHARACTER/0001. name the file accordingly to every file in there (duplicate and stuff)

[safe pebble]

i think you meant to tag @humble trail

[surreal ermine]

oof lol

i thought you wanted the red ribbon?

[safe pebble]

zenia did, red ribbon on casual winter yukiko!

[surreal ermine]

well there we go lol

[safe pebble]

i just wanted the black ribbon (long hair) on yukari's winter casual outfit instead of red

shouldn't be too hard i think, since it uses the same ribbon/mesh... about to try it now

[surreal ermine]

go ahead

[safe pebble]

so i'm guessing i export the texture with the black ribbon on the hair and replace it with the texture in the yukari casual

am i correct

😭

first timer here

LOL

[surreal ermine]

use zylvos's tutorial

#1094412112576651314 message

[safe pebble]

oooh thanks!

[random hinge]

You only need to change the texture of the hair, not the whole hair (to replace the red ribbon by the black ribbon). It's even easier than that small tutorial. Maybe I should make one for that as well

[granite wren]

Oh fr? So if I wanted to give the ones I'm working on a pink ribbon I could just use the texture from her swimsuit

[random hinge]

Yeah, I'll see if I can make that tutorial when I get home from work

I think I'll also make one with my tips and tricks to optimize textures/materials in models (which I didn't apply at all in my oldest models)

[fathom wind]

Ooo I'd appreciate a tutorial on optimizing textures

[warm sand]

R&V on steam deck? Na, I'm good:3

[surreal ermine]

woah

[warm sand]

it is I, Kasumi Yoshizawa on the Nintendo 3ds

/ref

[errant zenith]

Wake up get up get out there

[spare oak]

lmao i did this once

[warm sand]

It's actually surprisingly playable, if a bit hard to read the text at times

[spare oak]

just a little silly

[warm sand]

especially the IMs lol

[errant zenith]

Yea I can read that

[warm sand]

crisp 400 by 240

[safe pebble]

aaaaah please do

tried it last night but whenever i replaced the texture with the exported dds file it showed up as blank

LMAO

[bold mortar]

How do you even set that up?

[warm sand]

A homebrewed 3ds, installed the moonlight game streaming app, set up the counterpart (sunshine client) on my pc, got the network working nice between them, then it drops you into steam big picture and it just works from there

[gaunt juniper]

It’s not even an issue of the text being small, it’s just that the resolution on the 3DS is so pixelated that the text is literally illegible. 😂

[warm sand]

yeahhhh

most of the text is legible, and im my experence if one textbox isnt, it has always been fine in the log. its Just the IMs that are competly illegible

but i played through most of okumura's last night using it, and honestly its still like 90% playable

at least untill i get a steamdeck or at least a contoller grip for my phone

i honestly wonder if any of them font mods ive seen recently would help with legibility

[bold mortar]

ah streaming

i figured since 3ds can barely run ps2 games, let alone a more modern one

[spare oak]

yeah no shot

[warm sand]

imagine tho lol. Just out of nowhere i have it running nativly

[spare oak]

conveniently covering the external components needed to make it able to run anything

[warm sand]

and only showing pitcutes to hide the 0fps

[random hinge]

Here, another hastily thrown-together tutorial

If you need help with importing/exporting, I've left instructions in the other tutorial I've made here
https://discordapp.com/channels/746211612981198989/1094412112576651314/1427356279126491216

[safe pebble]

attempting this now thank you!

[safe pebble]

very easy to follow and worked like a charm, thank you for the guides!

quick question though

where do i drop the edited GMD into?

i just realized i exported and edited the files from the "Costumes" folder

😭

[random hinge]

If you want to replace the overworld model, replace the files in this folder:
Reloaded-II\Mods\kasumi_as_protagonist_-alternate_models-_long_hair_variant1_3_1\OptionalModFiles\WinterCasualOutfit\YukariWinterCasual\MODEL\CHARACTER\0001

The file in "Costumes" is the battle costume

[bold mortar]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/627119

dang

we need this for R&V

or a modified version of it at least, so it looks more like a shujin uniform

[cobalt prawn]

Ehi guys sorry to bother but I was wondering if any of you could clarify to me if the Kasumi as protagonist Costumes Addon clash with the Ponytail variant or if it just give you more options to customise Kasumi

[random hinge]

I think all the costumes in it are avalaible in my own addon mod (Kasumified of course). Wisteria's addon also has a few other feature in the config options, so if you want to use it, place it above my addon mod just in case

[cobalt prawn]

Thank you so much, it has been sometimes since I wanted to try this mod and I finally found the will to understand how to do it

[safe pebble]

noted, is there anywhere else i'd need to replace these textures in besides these 2?

[random hinge]

Nope, just the two models in the folder I've linked and the battle costume

[west panther]

Just noticed this now, but in the Kasumi over Joker voice patch, there is a config for "Navi Patch." Its off for me currently, can i toggle it on?

[rancid falcon]

Sure, if you want Futaba to refer to both the sisters as "Violet".

[west panther]

that makes sense

[errant zenith]

Holy moly

[twin igloo]

took a break for the game for a bit to play other stuff wanted to continue with this mod but now something doesnt want to update and i cant tell wtf it is anyone know which mod this is ? cuz idk if its from this mod or smth else since i couldnt find a way to search up that id

[surreal ermine]

I think death chaos's mods are cursed

[random hinge]

It's this mod. It's a new dependency
https://github.com/DeathChaos25/p5rpc.bustupparam.merging/releases

[surreal ermine]

why is it always their mods that end up in a download loop lol

[random hinge]

This mod allows mods that edit or add new bustups to work together

[twin igloo]

i seez thank u i dont think i even had it installed before so its probably trying to update something that isnt installed idk lol

[surreal ermine]

no when you updated r&v it called that dependency to be installed, but reloaded has an uncommon issue with auto-downloads where it gets stuck trying to call a download that doesn't work

[twin igloo]

i see never encountered that before probably cuz am still pretty new to reload 2

literally started using it for the first time this year

[surreal ermine]

it seems to happen a lot with mods hosted on github for some reason

it happens a lot with gamebanana for me though because gamebanana loves to rate limit me

[bold mortar]

ikr

[errant zenith]

Now Ann has a long sleeve wrapped sister

[bold mortar]

i think either that or adapting makoto's outfit would be the best for kasumi's new summer school outfit

[errant zenith]

The pink does suit her

Need a pink bow now

[simple wraith]

what homebrew is this?

[warm sand]

The app is called moonlight

[safe pebble]

I OWE YOU MY LIFE

[spare oak]

pretty

[errant zenith]

pretty fashionable

[safe pebble]

i'm basically just playing infinity nikki but in persona

i love looking cute so much 😭

[errant zenith]

the kasumi love is literally getting to the p3femc love

i like it

[cobalt prawn]

Just gonna ask even if I think I know the answer, it's normal that in the voice acting they still call you Joker right?

[spare oak]

ye

[cobalt prawn]

Ok thank you just wanted to verify

[molten finch]

Someone is also working on replacing Joker with Rose if you haven't followed this one there 👀

https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1394907406437191793

[cobalt prawn]

Oh thank you

[molten finch]

No problem~

[west panther]

ah yes my sister ||F3 9F 0B 01 01 01||

[granite wren]

||P5's answer to Togore||

[spare oak]

Togore

[granite wren]

https://tenor.com/view/togore-undertale-homestuck-deltarune-togore-dreemurr-gif-17827755630609520376

[random hinge]

Funny, I thought I had fixed all of those. Thanks, will be fixed in the next update

[rich tree]

@random hinge so i have this equiped but its showing up as Rise midwinter casual in game on

blue ribbon works fine but white ribbon isnt working

also over riding loungeware ponytale

[random hinge]

Hum, seems to be working fine for me

Especially since it's a costume

Just in case : are you using the red rose mod?

[rich tree]

ok new problem

it was happening the very first time you enter the bank palace

on the street with the ATMs im now in front of his bank after makoto starts some trouble

and everything is working

red rose mod?

[random hinge]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/621379

[rich tree]

no i prefer the original brunette look imo

but i have all the costumes working now that im past that first entry into the 3rd palace

so its something in that part of the game

[random hinge]

Alright, I'll investigate

@rich tree Do you mean this part of the game?

[rich tree]

yeah

[random hinge]

What are your config options for the ponytail mod?

Just in case it's an oversight from me

Currently, this is working fine for me

[rich tree]

could be maybe because reloaded for w.e reason decided to turn on both modals

i turned the longhair one back off

[random hinge]

Yeah, better to only have one enabled at a time

I'll try with your settings

Seems to be working just fine

[bold mortar]

mine are like this but afaik they work just fine

[rich tree]

i think it was reloaded being stupid with having both turned on its working now

i want to try that mod Wisteria made that hides her bag but im not sure its compatable with R&V

[random hinge]

It should be compatible, I don't have files for the bags in my mods

[rich tree]

Ok I'll give it a try

[west panther]

after months of stalling. i finally finished it. it was very refreshing.

i love the spin on the story overall. i will revisit once that other male romance mod is completed and made compatible with this (hopefully)

time for femc reloaded

i also appreciate the constant updates from both R&V and Kasumi as Protag and Sumire Overhaul making this more polished over my playthrough. tiny animations, additions etc.

p6 defo should have a femc :^)

[errant zenith]

One can hope

[molten finch]

Revisit for a NG+ Rose & Violet File there~ 👀

[random hinge]

Glad your liked it!

[gaunt juniper]

Glasses are hard.

Also there is not enough official artwork of Sumire with her hair down out there. I need more.

[random hinge]

Nice!
For the R&V thumbnail, I actually used a screenshot of her 3D glasses. I made some edits to it in Paint.Net to make it look more a drawing, but considering the game artstyle, I didn't need to do much

[gaunt juniper]

Yeah, I just kinda free handed it while looking at a reference photo, but it might be better to just trace them to make sure the shape is right. But for the most part Sumire is done here.

Just need to finish the alternate looks for Kasumi and this picture will be done.

[random hinge]

If I may give you one piece of feedback : I think her hair is a bit too short here (since it's more or less the same length as the ponytail). Looking at the 3D model :

Granted, you can really see the difference because the two are side by side

[split igloo]

hello, i don't know if this was spotted before but there is a typo in Sae's line here "The courts couldn't possibly overlook those evidence, and when the media got a hold of it..." in "The courts couldn't possibly overlook those evidence" it should be "that evidence" instead of "those evidence" alternatively "the evidence" works as well. this is the first typo i've noticed so far, nice work!

[random hinge]

Thanks! I'll fix that for the next update!

[split igloo]

Thank you for you hard work!🙇‍♂️

[lethal geode]

this is extremely minor but the Crossroads job says (boys only), compile this msg (or use bmd emul and delete everything else) and put it in p5rpc.kasumi.roseandviolet\FEmulator\PAK\INIT\CMPTABLE.BIN

not sure if this'll fix it on the calendar but i'll check

okay it does

[random hinge]

Oh wow, thanks! I completely forgot about that stuff, and I actually didn't know it said boys only. Nice catch!

I already have CMPTABLE.BIN in the Femulator folder so I'll just put it in

[gaunt juniper]

Wow, yeah it’s way longer than how I have it. lol

I’ll fix that when I can.

[random hinge]

I don't understand the point of the "Issues" section on GB. I can't even ask them to provide their load order

If this person is on this discord and sees this messages : can you post your load order? This is working fine for me and it seems to work fine for people playing the game on youtube

[raw marlin]

Cuz GB is an outdated site

[granite wren]

Gamebanana's existed for years and runs on spaghetti code
No wonder it's most popular for Valve games

They really should add a way to attach images or something though

[lethal geode]

honestly i would just disable issues if possible

theyre pretty useless

ok i dont think you can

[random hinge]

Yeah, well, might as well DM them to ask them their load order

[granite wren]

I feel like if they tried to code that in the whole site would collapse or something
I like Gamebanana but it's definitely held up by tape and several dreams

[random hinge]

It feels like you're supposed to just close the issue or delete it without being able to ask for more info. It just feels... wrong

[surreal ermine]

issues is meant for bugs not problems lmao these people just don't know where to go

maybe they think it's a bug

make sure to ask them if they're using male romance btw @random hinge version 1.0.2 causes softlocks

if that's the case tell them to update to 1.0.6

[random hinge]

I'll keep that in mind. I ask them to send me their load order with the mod versions

[surreal ermine]

idk why some people seem stuck on 1.0.2

any other version to be stuck on... please

[random hinge]

You mod didn't update automatically for me

So it's possible they have the same problem and are stuck on this version because they don't know the mod is updated

As for why this happens...

[surreal ermine]

istg

reloaded moment

[molten finch]

Ooh hey Sumire is now in her long hair and glasses now~

Will she get an outfit change or no? 👀

[lethal geode]

ok if its happening to that many people

maybe the metadata just didnt get uploaded or something idk

[gaunt juniper]

From what I understand @random hinge telling me, her blue dress is significant to the true ending, so I’ll be keeping the outfit untouched.

[molten finch]

Ahh okay since that cgs is supposed to be the false ending for Royal there

So yeah that's understandable there

[random hinge]

I'll update the models mods tomorrow with the polished Yukari's winter casual and the new Summer Uniform. I'll take a look at the other Mugikomachi's models later

I'm adding the black ribbon as a variant for the Yukari's winter casual (Long hair) @safe pebble

That way, you won't have to remake the texture swap since I've made quite a lot of edits to the Yukari model

[bold mortar]

W

just in time for me to finish my homework and have all weekend to play

i can finally continue that run I started back in june

[safe pebble]

thank you so much 🩷

[surreal ermine]

you can also add my variants of the white ribbon rise midwinter casual and red ribbon yukiko winter casual if you want. i think i sent them in kap thread or here? i can't remember

they're brown hair brown eyed i made sure to send those

for long hair it's literally just a texture swap so you can prob do that yourself

but just to save time

lemme find it

[tribal scroll]

raven

red ribbon yukiko winter casual model (thanks to zylvos's teaching) @safe pebble . put it in /OptionalModFiles/WinterCasualOutfit/YukikoWinterCasual/MODEL/CHARACTER/0001
then duplicate it and rename that duplicate C0001_111_00.GMD to replace the other file

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raven

Copy this into /Costumes/Joker and /OptionalModFiles/MidwinterCasualOutfit/RiseMidwinterCasual/MODEL/CHARACTER/0001. name the file accordingly to every file in there (duplicate and stuff)

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[surreal ermine]

omg rose is so cute... i'm so glad i replaced the ribbon with the white one

hey @random hinge did you remove the instances of sumire saying "senpai" in voicelines? because she just said it in darts

[rich tree]

its a different mod working on replace senpei

or im not understanding the question

[surreal ermine]

i thought in most of the bmds zylvos changed the voicelines

to different ones i mean

"look at how quiet your sister is. think on that"

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[rich tree]

shes still using senpai in my game

and i am upto date

[surreal ermine]

in sumire's rank 8 i think the bustups of her profusely blushing should be changed. it was a bit uncomfortable

[humble trail]

i hope there is JP version to remove senpai

[surreal ermine]

idk if anyone's interested in this but i made a version of the midwinter uniform without the scarf and gloves. just another thing to differentiate from sumire

[random hinge]

Nope, unchanged in those voicelines

[surreal ermine]

I see

I was mostly referring to the lines being called in the bmd, not any audio editing

[random hinge]

You mean the text?

I think I've edited the "Senpai" to "Sis" in the text

But I didn't remove the voiceline being called here

Might as well keep it if we can get a voiceline replacement with "Sis"

I'll restore other "senpai" (= sis) lines elsewhere if the mod gets some progress

[surreal ermine]

I see I see

[random hinge]

Models mods updated

She's blending in!

[radiant plume]

this screenshot is so funny

a first year in second year classes

[random hinge]

I actually edited her uniforms with the "2" year pin. She should be 1rst year, but she get moved 2nd because of the principal's decision (He's a convenient idiot)

Also, the issue from yesterday with the softlocks at the start of August were from an incompatibility with Shut up SIU director. I had forgotten about that, but since we edit the same function for the beach trip...

[rich tree]

so should i turn off the shut up mod?

or was it fixed

[random hinge]

Well, unless you're using the file(s) Wisteria made specifically for Rose & Violet, disable it

[faint elk]

Oh god no. I prefer the default dress.

[molten finch]

Is it the one where she wears the sweater on her Summer Uniform?

[faint elk]

Well yeah.

[molten finch]

Oh yeah same, as that sweater summer uniform and the default sweater colors are cute on her lol

[errant zenith]

aww man i cant spot the main protag

[random hinge]

@surreal ermine I made the update, but i forgot I made the Red Rose models for you.
Here you go, updated Yukari models and the summer uniform

[surreal ermine]

oh thank you!

[gaunt juniper]

I have finished the touchups to Sumire.

[molten finch]

She's looking great lol

[lean sky]

CUTE

[errant zenith]

Pretty

[bold mortar]

started a new run

had to switch back to long hair because it's so much better

[rapid mural]

Laughs in Kongou Mitsuko: Ho Ho Ho! I gifted someone a extra P5R copy and they are playing Rose and Violet as their FIRST P5R Experience!

I played P5R first time as BetaFeMC.

I have been Eclipsed. I am so Proud!!!

[random hinge]

Well, I hope they managed to set everything up correctly. Otherwise, you might need to explain to them why Sumire becomes Kasumi and calls you Senpai 👀

On an unrelated note:
I've managed to fix the issue during Leblanc hangouts with Futaba reported by Wisteria. If you decides to hang out with her (playing video games on 09/25, for instance), you'll currently be forced to spend the evening with her. It will be fixed in the next update.

[radiant plume]

now this is just me, but i’d always make someone play something unmodified so they can experience the story as was written by the devs 😅

[granite wren]

Or at least have them watch the anime or a playthrough

[rich tree]

except for a few of us who think Kasumi's story and the game are better then Jokers and un modded >.>

[radiant plume]

well regardless of if you think the story is better you need the original for comparison lol

[granite wren]

I think the story's better too, but you still need the frame of reference for comparison and to put things in context???

[molten finch]

And if one still wants to play as Kasumi as the protag, Kasumi as Protag by Wisteria is a good way to experience the story for the first time, as KaP is just cosmetic gender swap and das it lol

[granite wren]

Yeah at least do that tbf

you need a frame of reference to appreciate the difference

I just suggested the anime as it's like
condensed, yk

[molten finch]

I thought the anime did badly and wasn't authentic to the OG game or something 🤔

[magic magnet]

i play this mod more than 5 times however I prefer joker

[granite wren]

It's not animated the best but if you want a quick context to the story then it suffices

it hits the major beats

[molten finch]

Fair enough

[rapid mural]

I did my best. But they ultimately decided they wanted to play Rose and Violet

I mean for me if I am experiencing the base story I can only play as BetaFeMC, I can’t play as FemJoker or Kasumi. I adore Kasumi and think FemJoker is amazing but BetaFeMC feels like “me” as almost self insert When I play Rose and Violet I feel like I am Roleplaying as Kasumi and it’s really fun. Like my choices are completely different. They would even be different if I just used Wisteria’s mod.

[molten finch]

I don't blame them, Rose and Violet is waayy too good, peak and unique there lmfao

[coral prawn]

r&v is in fact better than royal so that's a good choice

[molten finch]

Amen 💯

[rapid mural]

The only mod experience I regret is I didn’t know about the Kotone cutscenes project when I first played P3Reload. I’m genderqueer so I just role played that Ryuzuki Kurohane had hallucinations.

But I have no regrets about Buying Reload just to play as Kotone.

Or switching from a Joker run to a FeMC run after destroying Kamoshida in my first ever p5r run

[bold mortar]

true!

[rich tree]

If you want context if i remember right it has a manga

[granite wren]

I don't see why "play the original first" means you can't think the story of R&V is better

That's kinda frying me rn

[jade willow]

I actually commed this model from the creator for a summer uniform variant. I could ask them if it's fine for me to upload my (very badly) texture edit of it.

[granite wren]

well, play/experience

[rich tree]

yeah i opened a can of worms with my earlier comment sorry

[granite wren]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-peace-sign-peace-ice-age-eddie-gif-12074097217783893288

[granite wren]

Oh shoot wait they do commissions? They might be able to help me out then as this rigging stuff is gonna drive me nuts

[jade willow]

also, quick question, are mods like exp multiplier work for R&V?

[granite wren]

No reason they shouldn't

doesn't like

touch the same files the mod does surely

[jade willow]

Yess! This was like 15 euros, they are so helpful. 100% recommend.

[jade willow]

Alrighty then it must be something Im doing, thank you♥

[granite wren]

Fabulous

[rich tree]

https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Persona_5_(Manga)

read this then play R&V context aqureied and you didnt need to watch a badly made anime

id wager you could find a place to read them online

[granite wren]

Yeah, that's a good point

And also I did hear the spinoff Mementos Missions one was good too?

[rich tree]

havent read it yet

but I have heard good things

[bold mortar]

guh i thought i fixed the crash on startup

it started again today

its over

[random hinge]

If they want to experience the P5R story for the first time through R&V, that's their choice. Playing the game unmodded lets you appreciate the changes that were made by the mod, but it's not required.

[bold mortar]

yeah always play the first time unmodded imo

[random hinge]

I've kept spoilers to a minimum, but they may be confused by the whole Sumire/Kasumi deal

If they can handle that, all good

[bold mortar]

wtf went wrong with reloaded that now it crashes when launching the game

[granite wren]

I have a friend who I'm going to have play it who I streamed Royal to originally when it came out so like

I'm not saying this to control anyone just like, suggesting it adds context

I am guilty of the same crime

[coral prawn]

i do not blame anyone for not playing royal unmodded for the first time especially if they played vanilla before

[bold mortar]

now the game boots, it better not crash again

[coral prawn]

i have many reasons to hate royal, which in my eyes is unplayable without rose and violet

[granite wren]

Oh vanilla is definitely tighter paced I think

I remember the times of having to load up on SP Adhesives at Takemi's lmao

[coral prawn]

hell yeah

but yeah i had fun playing vanilla for a few time on ps3
i did not have fun with royal at all

ever

nothing

only disappointment

[granite wren]

R&V is tons better
that's why I'm jealous my friend can now play R&V and have the context without touching Royal

[coral prawn]

it is

[bold mortar]

idk a first run is always better untouched by mods imo, even if the mods make the game better

[granite wren]

or security level mattering
that change, uh... still baffles me, what do you MEAN you can just get to 100 and nothing happens

(like yeah in original it was still hard to get caught)

(but still)

[bold mortar]

and apparently vanilla had lunch hangouts

like why would those get removed

[rich tree]

did you deploy the asi loader?

[lethal geode]

alright lets not bash royal too much here, this is the rose & violet thread

[bold mortar]

true

[lethal geode]

it did not

[granite wren]

They were unused in Vanilla

scrubbed from Royal cuz they were unused

[bold mortar]

oh i see

[bold mortar]

says its in there

[granite wren]

What's your mod list, is there another conflict?

[bold mortar]

but as far as I can tell reloaded ii.5 doesn't have the option do deploy it

[coral prawn]

it doesn't even matter since you couldn't get kicked out at calling card day anyway

[granite wren]

Reloaded 2.5? Is there a new version I'm missing?

[coral prawn]

ryo's fork of r2

[granite wren]

Ahhh I see

[coral prawn]

i like doing what i call the aura walk in p5
which is just walking at the slowest speed possible on calling card day throughout the entire palace

[bold mortar]

thats the load order

[coral prawn]

it would be way more fun if i could get kicked out of the palace during an aura walk and get a bad ending

[bold mortar]

nothing really different than what it was a month ago when it was working perfectly

[granite wren]

Yeah I don't see anything jumping out that'd cause crashes

[coral prawn]

maybe it's this?

[granite wren]

External sounds like the right one

or... could you briefly open the old fork, deploy ASI, switch back to 2.5?

[bold mortar]

i have the asi loader from when i still used the old version

the issue isn't that it won't deploy mods

its that the game just crashes after a second when i boot it

[coral prawn]

launch it through r2

oh?

then it crashes

idk

[granite wren]

Maybe there's an error log somewhere

like I know the main menu of the base fork has "view log files"

[bold mortar]

here we go

[random hinge]

The log file isn't telling much

Do you have Reloaded installed somewhere specific?

I don't know if Reloaded likes that kind of folder path
N:\Mods\Persona\Release (1)\Mods\p5r.enhance.cbt

Mine is something like this, for comparison
C:\Users\Zylvos\Desktop\Reloaded-II\Mods\p5r.enhance.cbt

[bold mortar]

its on my SSD with all my other mod folders

it's never had this issue before

i'm testing the main fork of reloaded rn

to see that does anything

ok yeah the main fork consistently works

[random hinge]

Just in case : Shut up SIU director will cause a softlock with R&V during August (at least). I hope it's not causing softlocks elswhere, like when starting the game

Okay, yeah, it could just be Reloaded

[bold mortar]

i made the file changes that wisteria said to do

and iirc i disabled it and it changed nothing

so i'm gonna guess its a problem with ii.5

[granite wren]

In my experience I didn't see softlocks elsewhere with it

SIU Director I mean

[random hinge]

This was an issue someone was having on Gamebanana. It might just be August, because I've added an event the same day there's a SIU director event

[granite wren]

Doesn't happen anywhere else from what I've seen

[lethal geode]

currently its unfixable and is an issue with BF emulator

idk when it'll get fixed

[bold mortar]

yeah i'm getting it to not crash less consistently

though testing it 5 times

it only crashed once

maybe swapping back and forth fixed it

[lethal geode]

@balmy sapphire have there been any updates on a fix for bf emulator procedure hooking conflicts? basically what was mentioned here - #mod-sharing message

[bold mortar]

the real mod to make compatible with R&V is shut up morgana

[lethal geode]

that would require editing like every event

[bold mortar]

rip

why did those horrible evil devs at atlus think he'd be a good replacement for the protagonists internal monologue

[lethal geode]

it would make basically no difference if he wasnt there

morgana hate is so forced 😭

[granite wren]

You wouldn't mind if I was to ask for a commission of an R&V model right? Like how people have asked modelers for Kasumi as Protagonist models

[granite wren]

Yeah he's really not that bad
genuinely I think it's because they put a face to the mechanics people dislike and it causes him to be dogpiled

[lethal geode]

fr

[granite wren]

also I WILL say having replayed again the Wind Amp accessory was a nice boon for him...

[bold mortar]

gameplay wise yeah, but i'm a P4 supremacist so i want to go back to 2nd person narration too

anyways i don't want to clutter up this channel

[random hinge]

Sure. If they don't mind me maybe adding this model to the Alternate Models mod (with proper credit).
Just in case : I'm not paying for any commission. If people want to pay for models/artworks/etc, you'll have to use your money.

[granite wren]

Oh no it's my money don't worry

thank you

[random hinge]

I say "maybe" because I don't know if the 1 GB file limit on GamBanana is per file or for all downloadable files in a mod

I think I'm a 998 MB in total for the 3 Alternate models mod

Nvm, seems like it's per file

Wisteria's mod is above 1 GB total with 3 files

[granite wren]

The person I reached out to is fine with that as well

[random hinge]

All good then

[balmy sapphire]

Nope... As I think I said in there it's not something I really want to do myself. I was hoping someone else would if it's something that was really needed.
As usual that's probably not going to happen though so I guess I can try and have a look sometime this week. (Ping me if I don't say anything about it in the next few days because I've probably forgotten)

I'll also probably just have to switch bf emulator over to my fork of script tools again since it seems tge is MIA 😔

[rapid mural]

I built a dark trans masc backstory for my P5R playthrough right? Powered through Kamoshida’s palace because he made me so so upset and I wanted to take him down.

THEN I discovered mods. I didn’t quite Click with FemJoker but fell in love with Akage. so…

Trans masc Ameshi Kaeru(joker) then decided they would present as a woman 80-90% of the time, died her hair red and kept all her confidence as she formed the Phantom thieves.

I don’t know how to explain it but as a genderqueer person it made my first playthrough feel more “me” that way.

(and then playing as one of Ameshi’s friends was so exciting!)

And now I am crafting wild crazy ideas for Haru’s protag journey!

——/
TLFR:

Zylvos, Wisteria, and Raven you all have inspired a new generation of modders and creators.

I’ve said this before but the whole reason my profile says “they/she” instead of she/her is because the Kasumi as protagonist mod gave me courage. Yuki des!

[bleak stirrup]

Kudos to Zylvos and Wisteria for creating these peak mods, I’m currently doing a replay with R&V and Kasumi as protagonist. Even the simple details from the name change to “Sis” in the very beginning of the game to the extra costumes. Seriously I can’t thank you guys enough.

[magic magnet]

I would like to play it again but I got dry out after 5 playthroughs 😅

[safe pebble]

thats so cute wtf 😭

[jade willow]

I could try contacting them to see if it can be made public if you want! I didnt go through the trouble because its really a rough texture edit that i Frankensteined together lmao

[humble trail]

the akechi refudge mod is is compatiple with RV?

[surreal ermine]

yeah just enable the she/her config option

[humble trail]

same applies to unused akechi's mementos request?

[jade willow]

oh wow! is there a mod for this?

[humble trail]

there is

[surreal ermine]

not sure I'd have to look at its structure

[humble trail]

i wonder for these new tycoon cards if i can replace joker (King card) with Kasumi with longhair

[granite wren]

You'd need to do the Joker card itself as well

[humble trail]

Zylvos the unused akechi's mementos request wont work with RV mod right?

just wanna check from your side

[random hinge]

I don't know, I'll check when I'll get home

[random hinge]

The Unused Akechi Mementos Request should be compatible with R&V, though obviously you won't have dialogue edits to fit Kasumi (or She/Her pronouns, if there are any)

[bleak stirrup]

one more question, if i want Joker back, how would i go about disabling the mod (i'm not going to right now atm but i just wanted to know)

[random hinge]

Well, just disabling anything with "Kasumi as Protagonist", "Rose & Violet" in the name will work

Disable Sumire Overhaul if you want Kasumi instead of Sumire

[bleak stirrup]

I assume if keeping joker slot 1 breaks things right?

[random hinge]

Oh, and also the Force Protag name. Disable it (or use the config option to rename the protag to anything but Kasumi Yoshizawa)

Yeah, unless you have mods that use Costume Framework, remove Joker from Slot_1

[bleak stirrup]

Alright thanks

amazing mod btw

Currently two creators are playing through the mod, i'm glad to see the mod is getting a lot of love
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyWTS2P-2ShZnJgY9IJAdSreU_xGBJtQT
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsvfap7IpV7xulqEoCGzlH4HKzg1E9ydE

[molten finch]

Strawbebby mentions~

[bleak stirrup]

[molten finch]

🙌

[rich tree]

I think you can just run the game with out reloaded and no mods will load

via just using the normal steam exe and not the short cut made by reloaded

[molten finch]

@zinc swift also does the playthrough of R&V

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVV_Xl52qKjkkaNxH3edIPCRBNBVOT8XO&si=Zzve5oG8IK7yVkes

And while others are streaming the game on twitch too lol

https://youtu.be/7oTU9fBvT3k?si=0OaEhcNZoW__iW1S

[bold mortar]

the yukari outfit makes me wish the spring/fall outfits stayed in use a lot longer

the summer ones feel like they stick around too long in this game

[tropic torrent]

guys is ||mom and dad supposed to be dead? why is me sister staying with the coach?||

[spare oak]

ys

[errant zenith]

Y not?

[surreal ermine]

why are you talking like a five year old lmao

[rapid mural]

I think it's amazing. There are.. Raven's project, A Violet and Joker project and even a Haru as protagonist project.

3 projects with various stages of concepts and development And I think it's because this was so successful.

Simply:

Well Done Z

[errant zenith]

Really curious about the Haru protag

[surreal ermine]

akechi protag too

[errant zenith]

Aww man I hate that guy

[granite wren]

I don't like vanilla Akechi but I actually think Akechi protag is kind of a cool idea, like "what could have happened if they were in swapped places"

kinda reinforces the whole like, "they're complimenting opposites" theme

Plus Persona's had an evil Joker before, maybe that's why the evil Ren names himself Joker

[surreal ermine]

i only accept akechi haters if you understand his character

[granite wren]

also like, having a detective protagonist gives me Persona 4 feels 🙏

[surreal ermine]

detective protagonists...

[somber bridge]

If some can tell me during this scene

Is there supposed to be custom text between them two

[molten finch]

Looking at this one, I don't think Sumire should've been called as [Student Called Yoshizawa] in Rose & Violet there lol

[somber bridge]

Fuh

I guess I messed somethin up in the mod lodader then

[granite wren]

Show your list?

[molten finch]

Yeah one of the mods override Sumire Overhaul there lol

[granite wren]

You might have a text mod that's clashing

[somber bridge]

here's my mod list and the one that effect textures

[lethal geode]

disable this

theres no reason to use it with R&V since it'll just replace R&V dialogue

[somber bridge]

Oh

I’m slow asf mb

[random hinge]

That event isn't part of Fully Voiced Sumire Social Link, but yeah, disable it

Do you have Cat Morgana in Overworld?

[somber bridge]

Nope

[somber bridge]

I’m going thought the event again

When there talking it shouldn’t feel like they just met right. During the fully voiced scene

[random hinge]

Yeah, you should be able to feel the dialogues have been changed. Some dialogues have been muted because of this

Maybe Localization Fixes?

[lethal geode]

you probably also want to disable localization fixes

[somber bridge]

Alr

[somber bridge]

so if i get this line i prob messed something up

right?

[random hinge]

Hum, yeah

That's your full load order?

[somber bridge]

before i ran it i disaabled all my mods that are unreuired so i can test what broke it

so currentley this is all i have enabled

[random hinge]

She/Her Joker

Disable it

All pronoun edits are handled by R&V

Also, just in case (might as well), make sure those options are disabled in Kasumi as Protagonist

All of this is already in R&V (with additional edits)

[somber bridge]

Yea that was the problem thatnks so much brother

also luv the mod keep up the great work

[random hinge]

Thanks, enjoy the mod! (without any more issues I hope)

[bold mortar]

do you guys think the network features are worth not using quickstart for p5?

they seem very useless compared to P4

[bleak stirrup]

I never used them so idk how they work

[errant zenith]

“Interesting my name is also Kasumi yoshizawa”

[bold mortar]

basically this menu

in p4 its helpful because it shows you who's available

[somber bridge]

Yea I read that and was like I most likely fucked up

[bold mortar]

in p5 not so much

[bleak stirrup]

ah that

so that's why it always asks me if i want to connect to the internet everytime i start the game

[errant zenith]

lol

[bold mortar]

persona essentials lets you just skip to the main menu

[bleak stirrup]

yeah i have it on

[bold mortar]

but then the activity log isn't enabled by default

[errant zenith]

Funnily enough I don’t use that button

[bold mortar]

because unlike p3 and 4, online isn't enabled by default

for some reason

[bold mortar]

me neither so it might be more helpful just to have quickstart instead

[bleak stirrup]

i only use alt to instantly go to the hideout

only use it has

i only see two useful features

available confidants and hideout

[errant zenith]

Mmhm

But it’s more fun to wing it imo

[bold mortar]

you can see it on the map though

[bleak stirrup]

for social stats you can go into stats and view it that way

[bold mortar]

so its kinda superfluous imo

unlike in p4 where you'd have to actually check the locations

so it's useful there

[bleak stirrup]

i only use it cuz you can instantly teleport to the person, on the map it only tells you what confidants are in what city

you don't actually get to teleport to them

[bold mortar]

idk i kinda like the p3 style

where you can't teleport at all

[bleak stirrup]

real chads run through the palace without fast traveling

[bold mortar]

thats kinda how i do it since i do them all in one go lol

[bleak stirrup]

i don't even care if i get spotted by shadows, it adds to the intensity

I usually get the palaces done in one day

i was able to get futaba's done in one day and send the card the next day

[lethal geode]

p5 and p3r kinda ruined daily life by adding sms with teleports imo

its a noob trap

i had a friend who was playing p5r/p3r and he literally only would use the sms teleport feature to do anything instead of explore like intended

they should really just keep the sms system but remove teleporting imo

the map in p5r/p3r is already very quick to navigate so i dont think its asking for much

[bold mortar]

true!

my first two runs of P5 were ruined by overreliance on teleporting

then I started just walking around places and saw cool things i wouldn't have seen otherwise

it's the same trap people fall into in bethesda games

[granite wren]

I feel like it's going to hit P4 pretty hard since they pack a lot of stuff into exploring Inaba
... surely they wouldn't add it since Inaba's a small town anyway, right

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-gif-24395495

[lethal geode]

they probably will

p3 didnt need it at all but they put it in reload

[bold mortar]

doesn't p4 have it already though?

[lethal geode]

it might

honestly i dont remember

[bold mortar]

golden does at least

maybe there ought to be a mod that removes fast travel altogether

[bleak stirrup]

it's nice to walk around and just explore, teleporting is for babies

[granite wren]

Punishment mod where if you try and fast travel it plays Withered Foxy jumpscare and then the game over screen for your arc

[bleak stirrup]

we need this for P5R

[bold mortar]

also it just occurred to me why this is

because the mf november/december stuff

CURSE YOU ATLUS

[bold mortar]

i forget, what was the justification why kasumi gets to be a second year in this mod?

[spare oak]

principal is cutting corners or something i forgor

[terse saddle]

so the twins can't be an epic first year duo clearly

[bold mortar]

if I were writing it, I'd write it such that kasumi is in her second year without any shenanigans, but ||sumire got held back just to highlight the differences between the two||

[molten finch]

Found some Kasumi/Rose content today 👌

https://fixupx.com/celexcity/status/1300964248269598722?t=RBMI_bohhqwyQcdpgL0Unw&s=19

(Not sure if I had send this one before... 🤔

celeste 🐰 (@celexcity)

[ #p5rspoilers ]
︀︀commission of the real kasumi yoshizawa for @MargieJoJofan 💖

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[rich tree]

i have played p5r more then a few times in all my time playing I have never seen momentos do this with a big room. Found this on reddit

Only ever seen large rooms having one door never seen this before with two exits

[errant zenith]

Oh WTH

[rich tree]

its funny though I have seen that in P5X at least once

[spare oak]

p5x has a million of those

[rapid mural]

When I wrote up a idea For “Haru as Protagonist” I came up with the idea that Haru’s fancy prep school refused to transfer her credits.

It’s a sleazy but real thing that happens sometimes.

I like how Zylvos did it too though

(Obviously Haru is a complex situation since Shido is even more involved. At least as far as her dad is concerned)

[surreal ermine]

I'm following someone on Twitter where their au is haru is protag and Ann is black mask

everyone else is swapped too

[placid quest]

if only I knew how to extract the models from P5X. I have so many AUs involving Yusuke, Hifumi and Kotone (P5X) in mind.

[magic magnet]

Haru as protagonist mod would be so fun (she my favorite pt girl)

[rapid mural]

Rin is pretty laid back, It’s listed just like this as a concept and project if you want to throw out ideas.

Haru is a little more complicated to write for in the beginning (Since Okamura is a Shido pawn) but I think the rewards are worth it.

[humble trail]

do RV have color sprite like this when we use the order option?

[random hinge]

I think it's CBT that does that? That should work Kasumi as Protagonist

The colored outline during battles works, so it should work too

[humble trail]

is this under KAP add on? i am not sure which option is it

[radiant plume]

it'd be in cbt, not kap

you can change the color yourself in cbt :3

[random hinge]

This stuff, in CBT

[humble trail]

OHH

[true thorn]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/503092
Guys, this mod won't cause any problems if I install it.?

[random hinge]

It should be compatible. I've made adjustments to some files to allow compatibility and it worked last time I tested it

[rich tree]

its still working for me

[true thorn]

Gracias

[red panther]

working fine for me

[jade willow]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/628434 bro this is sooo cute!!

[errant zenith]

Time to go to work!

I neeeeeeeeed!

[jade willow]

definitely an excellent summer casual variant imo

[bold mortar]

i did the madarame palace without fast travel and now I understand why the alertness goes up to 100% lol

[clear acorn]

I wish

[bold mortar]

way more fun than just teleporting to the last safe room

way more hype too

should've done this with kamoshida

also i have an actual R&V thing

what if the front part of the long hair mixed with the ponytail

[spare oak]

i get 100% security all the time bc i just stopped fighting enemies

it's lowkey annoying

[humble trail]

alright thanks

[bold mortar]

good compromise set of models i think

[gaunt juniper]

Does anyone have a few photos of the Long Hair Variant from the front that I can use for reference? The quality of the photos I have on hand are not very good.

[bold mortar]

i have these

[gaunt juniper]

Thank you!

[bold mortar]

@random hinge

[rich tree]

Makoto social link 2 is so odd you start out in your school uniform...switch to casual...walk into leblanc back in your uniform... like girl where in the hell are you changing

[random hinge]

Good idea on paper, poor execution.

Also, I don't want to have to redo all the models again

[errant zenith]

Smooth hair with a sticker

[bold mortar]

Rip

Did the models look like they work together ortherwise?

I may make them myself

Since I spent the better part of last month doing texture work for Fallout New Vegas

Textures are kind of easier than trying to fit everything perfectly in blender

[rapid mural]

I completely forgot about that one. I Really want to see how they do the Shido scene for that one. I imagine it not being Shido and Akechi just beats the dude to death so Shido covers it up by transferring him.

I’m not writing it though obviously. i’m fascinated to see where it leads though.

[random hinge]

I think so. MyTamagos made a separate mesh with just the bangs, since they're not separate on the long hair model.
I'll check again if I still have the file. I'll send it to you if you want to give it a try

[granite wren]

I'm really happy with how it came out, thanks again for the pointer to their Kofi

[somber bridge]

Can I ask for Ann rank 10 romance scene where she’s talking

Is there supposed to be some dilonge change or added text

[jade willow]

I just noticed that p5r has it set up where in metaverse Sumi's red hair is more bright red than it is outside of the metaverse...thats interesting

[granite wren]

I think it's mentioned in Mudkip's Naoto importing tutorial, how the materials are set up to have different lights in the metaverse

Neat touch honestly

[jade willow]

ahh that makes more sense than simply "her hair is brighter here" lol

[west panther]

Random question

what happens to bounty points to a request if it expires in GB?

[bold mortar]

Yes please that'd be great

[random hinge]

Here's the model

There's probably a lot of duplicate textures in that one though

It doesn't seem like the hair texture a duplicated at least

[bold mortar]

thanks

time to figure out the tools and how to make a mod now lol

[bold mortar]

do you know a good guide how to make these mods btw?

[random hinge]

You just want to edit the texture, right?

[bold mortar]

yeah and apply the new mesh to every outfit available so far

sans the outfits where the hair is supposed to be down

[random hinge]

I've written two small tutorials to explain how to change the ribbon mesh or a texture in Blender. Here you go

Changing the hair mesh is like changing the ribbon

I recommend checking ou the ribbon tutorial first. I've linked mudkip's tutorial for setting up Blender

It also has explanations on how to import/export model in Blender

[bold mortar]

thanks, does it have file structure instructions too?

[random hinge]

You mean where to put the files to test them?

Or just how to make a mod?

[bold mortar]

testing first ig

but eventually i'll want to make it a full mod yeah

[random hinge]

For where to put the files to test them: Just copy the file structure from one of my model mod. You want to replace the models in this folder to test them in the overworld:
kasumi_as_protagonist_-alternate_models-_long_hair_variant1_3_1\Characters\Joker\1\MODEL\CHARACTER\0001

To make a separate mod, you can copy an existing mod, but you have to change the mod the ModConfig.json

[bold mortar]

i figure

makes me miss Yakuza's file structure

[random hinge]

For now, you can just replace the files in the long hair variant, for instance. That way, you can focus on fixing the models first

[cunning kelp]

just chiming in to say this is so helpful and sweet of you to make. really appreciated!

[surreal ermine]

real

[bold mortar]

everything was just named what it is...

[surreal ermine]

yakuza is so easy to mod they don't even compress their shit lol

[bold mortar]

true

guh missing manifest

don't tell me i need to downgrade blender

[random hinge]

I use Blender 3.6.8

The import/export addons don't work with more recent versions

[bold mortar]

now i'm on the new version

ok lets try 3.6

ok now it installs it

now i have to figure out what it's called and enable it

nvm that was the wrong one

now i've found it

alright now it's in blender

though i don't really need this until i figure out the textures lol

wth is this

does gfdstudio have an exe to use

[random hinge]

Oh

I don't think i've put the right link

https://github.com/tge-was-taken/GFD-Studio/releases/tag/0.10.3

[bold mortar]

ok thanks

ok time to spend many hours figuring this out

[bold mortar]

is the front part of the hair referencing the same texture as the back part?

[random hinge]

No. Front part use the long hair texture, back part use the ponytail texture

[bold mortar]

i see

ig step one then is to see if the front part wants to load with the ponytail texture

[random hinge]

That won't work

They're not part of the same "mesh map"

That's why you have to have a separate texture for the front and the back

[bold mortar]

i see

[random hinge]

To illustrate:

If you swap the first texture with the second, the position of the each vertex won't move

So it's going to look terrible

[bold mortar]

ah

yeah definitely missing yakuza now, their hair textures weren't nearly so complicated lol

[random hinge]

Your best bet is to edit one of the two textures to make it work with the other

[bold mortar]

do you know which part of the long texture corresponds to the front?

my first thought would be to change the coloring there to match

[random hinge]

It's that image
https://discordapp.com/channels/746211612981198989/1351304235320348683/1430614419045355651

Select the mesh in blender and go to UV Editing

[bold mortar]

oh ic

ok a very lazy recolor made it look a bit better

ok i'm seeing why these don't match so well

the front starts darker near the top while the back is lighter at that point

can the uv parts just be moved to accommodate the ponytail texture or would that be too complicated?

[random hinge]

I think it's too complicated

You can move the UV around, change the shape, etc

But it's going to take forever

And it might still look terrible

Editing the texture to lighten the top part of the bangs might work better

That way, you know the texture already fit the mesh

[bold mortar]

yeah true

alright that means i gotten basically reverse the colors on the front part then

[somber bridge]

Can I ask you something?

Is there supposed to be some dilonge change or added text during am voice romances screen

[random hinge]

Do you mean her rank 10?

Romances don't have too many edits, mostly protag dialogues. They're already very sweet

[somber bridge]

Alr got it

[peak drift]

Bruh what are these UV’s 😭

[bold mortar]

They're my punishment for wanting to make a mod

[bold mortar]

man trying to recolor this texture is a headache

[bold mortar]

would be so much easier if her hair was black

[lethal geode]

not really

even if you do retexture the top of the hair is still raised

the mesh would need to be edited so it blends with the rest of the hair better

[bold mortar]

wdym

[bold mortar]

also i think the play here is to use the clone stamp tool to match the colors

something like this

[surreal ermine]

I think the biggest problem is that the pony tail is too tight. the bangs implies it's loose so even when it's matched it's gonna look off

I'd adjust the ponytail texture. change the lines so they look less tight

[bold mortar]

i'll look into it

for now i just need the colors to match lol

i'll worry about the fine details later

[bold mortar]

looking better i think

[bold mortar]

i think i bungled some of the front parts

dunno if i should go back and redo those

though that'd mean losing like

2 hours of progress

[bold mortar]

ok redid it and it looks better

[errant zenith]

oh whats going on here

[bold mortar]

adding the bangs from the long hair to the ponytail

[errant zenith]

ahhhh

shes gonna have less forehead

[surreal ermine]

da kasumi with no brim

come on down to red rose for cold midwinter kasumi

[errant zenith]

hmmmm gimme bluesumi

[surreal ermine]

woke sumi

oh wait you mean recolor the gloves and scarf?

[errant zenith]

nah i was thinking her hair lol

cause i just had a crazy imagination of what if she had blue hair

[bold mortar]

i really hope it looks decent

i'm not very good at this

[surreal ermine]

i think it looks good so far. very impressive actually

i suck at texture editing... lol

i suck at art in general

[bold mortar]

yeah honestly meshes are easier than this

[surreal ermine]

a lot easier

doesn't take much artistic skill

[errant zenith]

[bold mortar]

ok i think this is pretty good

[surreal ermine]

wowie that's a big improvement

[bold mortar]

only this part left to recolor

thankfully that should be decently simple

ok recolored

[errant zenith]

ooooo

[bold mortar]

pretty good i think

these parts still need to be dealt with though

ngl though i have no idea what to do with them

[jade willow]

I like how you decided to just go for this lol

Its looking good tho!

[bold mortar]

needed something to occupy my mind ig

ok i'm gonna test it in game now

[jade willow]

whoaaa moment of truth! cant wait to see

[bold mortar]

time to figure out where to put this model

looks like it matches fairly well

[errant zenith]

holy side hair

[bold mortar]

dunno if i made it not dark enough though

actually no i like this

guh this took like 12 hours to do

i'm gonna fine tune it and then see about putting this on the rest of the models

[bold mortar]

ok i think i'm content with this

[errant zenith]

She’s so close to being emo

Actually… I kinda wanna see that

[bold mortar]

dunno which of the model mods to base this on though

in lieu of making new bustups

ig the long hair one is more accurate

[errant zenith]

Definitely

[bold mortar]

should probably get zylvos' input too

@random hinge thoughts so far?

[random hinge]

Looks good from that angle! Do you have a screenshot from the top of the head? That's where it was most noticeable that the back was lighter than the front

[red panther]

ughhhh i’m obsessed!!! she’s so gorgeous 😭😭 new bangs are looking good on her

[faint elk]

She looks so emo.

I like it.

Actually holy shit this is growing on me fast. Looks so good.

[humble trail]

new hair for kasumi nice

[jade willow]

oooh! This came out beautifully

[bold mortar]

this was the only one i thought to do

other areas it might look different because the lighting is goofy

[random hinge]

Oh yeah, that looks much better than what I had. The light part of the back part is more coherent with the front part

Also, yes. Some lighting in the game can make the hair look a different color, so I wouldn't bother trying to adjust it for every type of lighting

[bold mortar]

yeah i wasn't gonna bother

way above my pay grade probably

i'm just gonna start setting this up for every outfit now

[random hinge]

That's the best part, you're not getting paid for that, ahah

Just a few heads-up :
C0001_113_00.GMD and C0001_206_04.GMD are not duplicates of the Phantom Thief. You'll see when you open them in Blender. Edit them separately with the bangs. Those two models have special material or bones to make them work in some cutscenes

[bold mortar]

ok

i noticed that the winter outfit that is used in mementos is also different than the overworld one

in any event i'm probably just going to edit every outfit

[random hinge]

The Phantom Thief outfit that shows in the metaverse is the "costume.gmd" in this folder:
Costumes\Joker\Phantom Suit

[bold mortar]

oh i see

[random hinge]

What do you mean?

[bold mortar]

like

i think the winter uniform costume was referencing a long hair model

though tbh i may have removed my edited one by that point

[random hinge]

Maybe you're thinking about the alternate outfits I've made for the winter casual (Yukiko, Yukari, blue dress...)?

They're separate costumes for the metaverse, it's easier to set it up that way

So the "Winter Casual" costumes is always the default one

Regardless of what you pick

[bold mortar]

no it was the uniform

idk i probably didn't do it right

regardless we'll see how that goes after I replace every outfit

[surreal ermine]

you have a slightly more daunting task than me lol

[bold mortar]

eh

copy mesh onto it

[surreal ermine]

I suppose you could ask chat gpt to write you a blender script

[bold mortar]

parent it to the armature

rinse and repeat

no different than making yakuza models i imagine

[surreal ermine]

I know zylvos used a script

[surreal ermine]

tbf the script resulted in 5 duplicate face textures.. lol

[random hinge]

I didn't use the script for the ponytail model, lol

[surreal ermine]

oh then why the dupe face textures?

[random hinge]

The ponytail models have duplicate face textures

[bold mortar]

ok so models are in the model folder

[random hinge]

The long hair don't because I had the script + MyTamagos' help

[bold mortar]

and costumes too?

[random hinge]

Metaverse Costumes are in:
kasumi_as_protagonist_-alternate_models-_ponytail_variant1_3_1\Costumes\Joker

Overworld models are in:
kasumi_as_protagonist_-alternate_models-_ponytail_variant1_3_1\Characters\Joker\1\MODEL\CHARACTER\0001

I still recommend editing the ponytail model. It's much easier to just replace the front part here

[bold mortar]

yeah thats the plan

[surreal ermine]

flashback to when I spent 4 hours each manually replacing textures when I prob could've used a script

[bold mortar]

should still have either alternate model sets enabled right?

for the bustups?

[random hinge]

There are a few more models hidden in, but you will only be able to replace them if you make them configure options:
kasumi_as_protagonist_-alternate_models-_ponytail_variant1_3_1\OptionalModFiles

They're usually duplicates of costumes, so don't bother for now

[bold mortar]

yeah speaking of those

[random hinge]

I recommend making a few different models and testing them in the overworld/events/metaverse

[bold mortar]

actually wouldn't the alternate models mod handle which gets enabled?

assuming i just replace the models

[random hinge]

The issue is, the configuration options makes the game use the models that are in a very specific folder path

[bold mortar]

oh

[random hinge]

Unless you're making a separate mod with the same configuration option

[bold mortar]

guh

[random hinge]

You can't override them by just putting a model mod below mine with the fame file structure. Those optional models need the same configuration option framework

For now, focus on making a few models and testing them a bit more. That way, if you need to fix something, you didn't waste your time doing all the models just yet

I say this because I didn't do that when I made my model mod a year ago. I wasted a lot of time doing and redoing models

[bold mortar]

alright

at the very least i'm gonna get this file structure set up first though

[bold mortar]

where should i test events

[random hinge]

Oh just test events in normal gameplay. If you have a save, just test a confidant event, stuff like that

[bold mortar]

oh i see

[random hinge]

It's just to check if it looks good in normal gameplay

[bold mortar]

did some of that already

[random hinge]

Perfect!

[bold mortar]

alright i'll test the battle model too

well first i gotta make it lol

[random hinge]

The Shujin winter uniform is also a battle model, so you can already replace it

[bold mortar]

true

its the same model?

[random hinge]

Testing a model after editing it is also a good way to check if your process for editing the model is working

[random hinge]

Yes

[bold mortar]

alright i'll just copy it in then

[random hinge]

Like, when I replaced the face, I didn't realize the face and eye material would be renamed. It prevented the "darkened face" and yellow eyes from showing when summoning a Persona

It's just a bit of quality assurance

[bold mortar]

hopefully i shouldn't have to worry about that i think

since all i did was replace the texture

[random hinge]

Yeah, it's already fixed in my model. Since you just have to remove the bang and replace it with the new one, that won't be an issue

The Phantom Thief outfit has two bangs "On" and "Off". They only show up when the mask is "On" or "Off"

Just replace it with the new bang, it won't be an issue

(that worked for the long hair model)

[bold mortar]

looking good to me

yeah i think it looks good in the metaverse and in battles

[random hinge]

Yep, looks good to me

[bold mortar]

maruki's office is kinda wonky

but i can't do much about that

outside leblanc is good

inside too

[bold mortar]

speaking of the config framework, could I copy yours and edit it or would that not work?

[random hinge]

I don't think it's going to work

[bold mortar]

ok

[random hinge]

There might be some stuff that's linked to the mod id

Like if you enable "Golden rapier" in p5rpc.kasumialtmodels

You're not enabling "Golden rapier" in p5rpc.kasumialtmodelslonghair

[bold mortar]

i see

i'll need to make my own then ig

[random hinge]

Yeah, but you can copy my repository with my options

You may not need all the options though, so you'll just have to remove them

Well, depending on how you want to go about this mod

[bold mortar]

i think i'd retain most of the model options

[random hinge]

raven probably has a similar thing for their red rose mod

[bold mortar]

idk about the bustup

[random hinge]

I may have bustups with the bangs that MyTamagos made

I'll have to check again

[bold mortar]

that'd be great if you do