(P5R PC) Rose & Violet - Story overhaul

[native crystal]

(I had Yuzu version on my old pc now going with native pc version)

with mods*

[unreal gate]

Thank you so much Mr. (Ant) Tenna, I am a big fan.

[granite wren]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-eo2gifs-deltarune-chapter-3-deltarune-ch-3-tenna-deltarune-gif-3543875082152148675

[spare oak]

i am tenna's #1 fan

[rapid mural]

Oh I wanted to Let everyone know that Although the new Sophie app works with RV it reverts all Text.

Sad Face.

if you want to change your Phantom name to a more RV name, or use the metaverse to test costumes and then disable it I noticed no crashes, or errors even on going to dead palaces.

Just a Heads up as It's a incredible app, and I thought I would let people know as Z's text msg changes are sometimes very subtle.

[thorn scroll]

Sophie app?

What are you referring to?

[granite wren]

It's a mod I think, like a less powerful but more user friendly Mod Menu

[thorn scroll]

ohh

thank you

[unkempt hearth]

I didn't manage to capture it, and I don't know if this is something you want to do, but Morgana's navigator hint popup for the irratable shadow type is "What a grouch, be the better man and act..."

[hallow panther]

Oh no I havent gotten to that point yet i just remember reading somewhere it would crash and wanted to see if it was the case or not

[hallow panther]

uhh johesy sorry to be the millionth person to ask but how does one change the portrait from regular kasumi to white outfit kasumi

[unkempt hearth]

^

[hallow panther]

thank you

[unkempt hearth]

Just refer to this 👍

[rapid mural]

[random hinge]

It should be an easy fix. Thanks!

I just check right now and it does seem to be No simp Morgana

[random hinge]

Thanks for letting me know. I'll add it to the list

[rapid mural]

Yokatta. I thought it would be pretty popular and knew it could feasibly be days before someone realized it was overwriting text msgs:)

[hallow panther]

I just cant get over how fucking amazing this mod is it was so worth the hour of fighting with 7zip (which would unzip the file but have a zipped file right inside of said unzipped file)

[rich tree]

uh thats by design you unzip the main archive

the other zips are the ones you drop into reloaded

[hallow panther]

no i would unzip the file but the file would also be within the file i already unzipped (still zipped)

[queen leaf]

made it to the ||third semester|| with the mod

[toxic fiber]

This can't be right.

[spare oak]

youre right!

get the latest version from the kasumi protag post

pins

[toxic fiber]

Question there's no dependencies needed anymore right despite what the game banana page says?

[spare oak]

well theres a lot going on here actually

you got old everything..

look here

there should be a dependency list and everything else

[hallow panther]

Do you know the name of the mod that makes arsene scale like all other party member personas? I remember hearing it’s compatible with rose and violet

[spare oak]

progressive arsene

i think

[hallow panther]

thank you

and just double checking

It IS compatible right

i dont wanna break anything

Lmao

[spare oak]

yea

i installed it too late so it was kinda useless but it did work

[raw marlin]

Should be

Unless the mod modifies the skill set

[hallow panther]

huzzah ok i will install it and if something fucks up ill just uninstall it and build the persona manually

everything is a okay thanks guys

[toxic fiber]

I knew I suck but now I know how much I suck

[radiant plume]

drag and drop this onto r2

it's a dependency of cbt that sometimes doesn't auto-download

[spare oak]

missed a "man" after reading every book in jimbocho

[toxic fiber]

Now I got to deal with that distorted long neck look

Give me 10 to figure out

Got it.

Nope trying something else.

Okay now I need help octa.

[spare oak]

can i see your mod list again

[toxic fiber]

Flowworks and bmd we're disabled as instructions indicated

[spare oak]

...

im not gonna ask but i think the alt models mod is outdated

[toxic fiber]

Crap. Yeah I know I got the NSFW mods leave it alone. But I got them from the pin here on discord. Maybe I didn't download them right. I'm supposed to keep them separate right not together cuz it's so I fucked it up there

[toxic fiber]

Okay anyone want to know where I can get the latest alternate models for the consumer at the protagonist.

[radiant plume]

i'm going to pretend i don't see mods that make teenagers nude and just say

you can find the kasumi as protag mod here

https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1094412112576651314

[toxic fiber]

Oh no what's wrong with this thing. I'm getting joker and he's all smushed up

Never mind got it. Need new glasses somehow I couldn't tell that one was in the top of the other in terms of dependency

[hallow panther]

why do those even exist-

[toxic fiber]

Nope. Gonna have to delete everything and download again.

[spare oak]

yeah id delete everything completely on god

[hallow panther]

yeah definitely delete everything

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1215985721739972638.webp?size=32

[sudden mantle]

I got this mod working yesterday (no stretching or crashing), but I'm having some issues.

1. With the long hair addon, I think Kasumi's hair might be too bright? When I checked the Alternate models Test build & she had a ponytail, her hair seemed darker like in other people's screenshots.

2. I seem to be missing the long hair versions of the White Leotard & all versions of it with the heart. And the 2 ponytail versions I do have have super bright red hair instead of Kasumi's more muted color.

3. In the cutscene where Ryuji comments on your outfit on 4-12 (RIP to the "You jelly?" option), Kasumi's bustup is her school uniform. I'm not sure if that's just because I equiped the White Leotard Alt. costume and I don't have the white variant bustups, if the bustup is normally her uniform at this point, or if something is actually wrong.

I think I have the right versions of all the mods. I got the Kasumi as Protagonist one from the pixeldrain link and the Rose & Violet one from the google drive link.

Joker is set to Slot 1 for the Costume Framework config.

I tried moving Custom Bonus Tweaks above Costume Framework based on a post over in the Kasumi as Protagonist feed, but it didn't seem to make a difference, so I moved it back. Also from that feed, I tried disabling the Combat BGM Enhancements, but I didn't notice any changes, so I turned it back on.

I turned off the Sumire Overhaul to see if that would make a difference, but it didn't.

For the Kasumi as Protag config, I disabled the options that the instructions on the google drive said to disable. (Also, I greatly appreciate the thorough documentation!)

I'm including screenshots of my mods list along with screenshots of the hair color & bustup mismatch.

Also, I was NOT prepared for how amazing it felt to see Kasumi's mask on the network connection screen. I almost cried seeing her model load in right after. These mods are so much better than I could have ever hoped for. Y'all are fantastic!

I found another (probably unique to me) issue. Why does she have 99 Swimsuit (Alt.)s? 😆

[unkempt hearth]

It looks like your modlist is using Wisteria's versions of the mod, not Rose and Violet

Try removing "Addon collection" and "Long Hair Model", then download the long hair variant from this link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pqFQiNiHLk8xD9Yhw10vqp2eIk-5miHk

[sudden mantle]

Gotcha. Thanks so much for the quick reply!

[unkempt hearth]

Take note of the version/authors on the right side of this image and see if they line up (seems good, just those two mods)

lmk if that ends up working for you 👍

[sudden mantle]

Thank you for the screenshot! It looks like what I have now matches except for the Force (Custom) Protagonist Name. Mine is 1.0.0 and yours is 0.9.1. The name seems to be working fine though.

I'm testing with the other long hair model now.

[unkempt hearth]

Oh yeah don't mind that haha

[sudden mantle]

So far so good! Her hair is darker and she has a mole now

[unkempt hearth]

The 99 swimsuit problem should be fixed as well

[sudden mantle]

I've gotta skip through everything to get back to the palace now, lol

[unkempt hearth]

The white varient bustup is not officially added to the mod yet. If it's something you'd like right now, you can check out this installation ^

[sudden mantle]

Is her bustup supposed to be naked/shadowy like the P3 Reload protagonist?

Also, thank you! I had started to go through those steps earlier, but then Discord warned me about malicious files, and I decided I could wait for the mod update (probably . . . I might change my mind later)

[unkempt hearth]

Yep!

It should be fine since a bunch of other people already did it ^^

[sudden mantle]

Woohoo!!

Fair point. I was just very excited to play

Aw yeah, heart outfit!

[heady cedar]

Hey guys anyone know what could be causing this error? I’m on 6/11, right after the hot pot celebration

[unkempt hearth]

Is this crashing to desktop or reload refusing to boot up?

[heady cedar]

The game is in a permanent state of loading (silhouettes walking across the screen)

[unkempt hearth]

Yeah sorry, I don't think I can help here. Someone else will have to answer this 😕

[heady cedar]

I’m unable to edit the config on the Kashmiri as Protag mod, perhaps that’s part of the issue?

[unkempt hearth]

Yeah there should be an option for that. Try and see if your version lines up with this:

If not, it can be found here: https://pixeldrain.com/l/mrULL5wW

[sudden mantle]

White outfit bustup works! Thank you!

[heady cedar]

Just saw your message Johesy, guess we were thinking the same thing, I got the version from this discord and set it up and everything’s working now!

[unkempt hearth]

Nice!

[vast hamlet]

i think this would make more sense to be written as "Please, don't worry about it."
i might be wrong tho bc i am in fact a little stupid

[half gust]

In the request "Lady-killer's Ballad" the enemy use a skill that guarantees charm all women in the team

Kasumi doesn't count as one for some reason

Is it not possible to fix this

[radiant plume]

you are correct

minor grammar mistake

[stuck condor]

maybe kasumi is transmasc and we just don’t know it yet

[sudden mantle]

Instructions for using the white costume bustups until the Rose & Violet mod can be updated with the configuration (Courtesy of Johesy and Celeste!)

1. Jump to this post from Johesy.
2. Download the bustup for your configuration:
   • White & Red with Ponytail: "Kasumi-Bustup-Edit-pony.dds"
   • Full White with Ponytail: "Kasumi-Bustup-Edit-pony-white.dds"
   • White & Red with Long Hair: "Kasumi-Bustup-Edit-long.dds"
   • Full White with Long Hair: "Kasumi-Bustup-Edit-long-white__2.dds"
3. Rename the bustup file "CUTIN_001_000.dds".
4. Download the p5r.enhance.cbt.7z file from Johesy's post a bit below the one with the bustup files.
5. In Reloaded 2, go to your mods for Persona 5 Royal.
6. Right-click on the Custom Bonus Tweaks mod.
7. Select "Open Folder".
8. Extract both files from the p5r.enhance.cbt.7z file you just downloaded into the p5r.enhance.cbt mod folder. (Or, open the p5r.enhance.cbt.7z file in WinRAR and copy the 2 files into the p5r.enhance.cbt mod folder.)
9. When prompted to replace or skip files, choose "Replace the files in the destination".
10. In Reloaded 2, right-click on the Alternate models mod.
11. Select "Open Folder".
12. Navigate to the Characters/Joker/1/FONT/SELECT folder.
13. Move the bustup file that you renamed to CUTIN_001_000.dds to the SELECT folder.
14. When prompted to replace or skip files, choose "Replace the file in the destination".
15. Confirm that the bustup is working as expected in game.

Note: The white outfits in Zylvos’s mod are for Kasumi/Rose. The white outfits included with the addons for Wisteria’s mod are for Kasumi/Sumire, intended to be used without the Rose & Violet mod.

1st Image: Default bustup, long hair variant - white mask with black accents and black costume.
2nd Image: Full white bustup, long hair variant - white mask with gold accents and fully white costume.

For ease, this is Johesy’s post with the p5r.enhance.cbt.7z file.

I hope these steps are helpful! Please let me know if you have any feedback 🙂

[random hinge]

I'll fix it for the next update, thanks!

[random hinge]

Yeah, it should be "about". It looks like a mix of another line. Anyway, should be fixed in the next update. Thanks!

[hollow owl]

I had another idea, that looked nice in my head, small but pretty cool, but Kasumi having a sniper rifle would look amazing

[lapis summit]

Morgana simps so hard when it comes to Ann, but barely notices Kasumi despite her being a protagonist is so sad

What are the OSTs this thing adds? They sound way cooler than default BGM like Take Over, imo

[radiant plume]

it says what songs specifically on the cbt mod page :3

[lapis summit]

I'll check it out, thx. By the way, is it normal that Kasumi's mask disappears like that? It's hard to screenshot this properly due to this blue aura, but mask's not there

[raw marlin]

When it comes to summoning a Persona yeah

Unless it’s gone when it’s not summoning

[lapis summit]

Hearing her "I'm blushing" every time you change persona to something like Succubus is just too funny. Props to the one whose idea that was😂

[random hinge]

He does call you "my lady" on a few occasion, but I didn't want to go too far with it, especially since some people already don't like it for Ann.
If anything, that makes his simping for Ann stands out even more

[random hinge]

That's normal, that's how they summon their personas in this game

[half gust]

I heard this when using Mara...

[half gust]

How do you even get the portrait from the left?

Mine is just using the school uniform portrait for everything

[lapis summit]

Who wouldn't be embarrassed when they hear a pp in a wheelchair saying I am you?😂

[rapid mural]

My Kasumi might be borderline since all my female characters are borderline
<<<genderqueer leans a bit masc.

[random hinge]

Unfortunately, I don't know how to change that.
I don't know if I really want to change that though... I don't mind the counterplay on the protag so you're forced to rely on your party members, but since it's charm, it might get a bit too spicy if you have strong personas

Same goes for the Kamoshida's boss "lick" attack. It only targets Ann

[hallow panther]

Kasumi full heals the boss lmfao

[stable snow]

Even bigger brain take. Kasumi is trans fem but the boss is just transphobic

[unkempt hearth]

Iirc Chlorophylls's mod changes those (the lick one for sure). It could be possible to reverse engineer their mod files if it's something you really wanted to do

[unkempt hearth]

You can use this fix to change it to the masked vers

^

[fathom wind]

I tried doing that a while back actually, I was using the 010 editor to modify the skill but I couldn’t really get it to work in game

[random hinge]

Yeah, I thought about doing that, but they must have done so with an older version of the compiler libraries, so the variables are a bit different in the .flow.
Also, I don't understand what's doing what, so I can't really reverse engineer that stuff (Chlorophyll's is to the left)

[rich tree]

curious which bustup is recomended to use

[static ermine]

Personally i lile the idea that Kasumi is so strong willed that the sexist man cant charm her because her will is stronger then any other woman

[rich tree]

its the pony tail

[lapis summit]

And the mole

[sudden mantle]

On mobile rn, but I also had the issue with the uniform portrait being used instead of the phantom thief one. What fixed it for me was following Johesy's instructions. I had accidentally been using the Kasumi as Protag long hair models instead of the Rose & Violet one (which also says Kasumi as Protag, lol)

[sudden mantle]

@half gust This is what Johesy told me, and it worked

[peak drift]

I feel like it would also be a little odd considering he is basically her pet

[unkempt hearth]

Incoming 'Morgana simps for you' mod

[lethal geode]

It wouldn't make sense anyway

The whole gag is that he literally only wants Ann

He's polite and normal to Haru and Makoto

and ofc Sumire in base game

[lethal geode]

Also I second this, plus you could probably end up with an all girls party (I think?) and it would just be really annoying

[spare oak]

yea that sounds miserable

[granite wren]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that request opens up around Shido's palace
So you could have Kasumi/Makoto/Ann/Haru

If anything I'd only really say change Lick if that can be done, and if not no biggie

[rich tree]

so you mean my normal team once I get haru I run all girls. 3rd sem I switch one of the girls out for her sister.

also i want to shoot mona

id rather be in a room over night with teddy

[granite wren]

So probably for the better the request stays unchanged

[rich tree]

given the personas i run on kasumi yes

please leave it alone

....

most of mine are capable of one hitting my team on any difficulty

[granite wren]

If changing Kamoshida's Lick can be done that'd be fair though I feel

[rich tree]

then id have to adjust the group for that one fight

as it is id prefer not to

[granite wren]

Cuz like during Kamoshida's your party is set and you can’t be softlocked while you CAN be during Ladykiller Ballad

[rapid mural]

[random hinge]

I don't think I'll bother with the lick. He won't always target the protag, so it's likely most people will play that boss without knowing he could target you.
Also, like I mentioned earlier today, the variables in the .flow from Chlorophylls are shuffled around so it's going to be very time consuming to figure out what should be edited for the lick to work

[granite wren]

Fair play
It was more spitballing anyway but prodding at the code like that might just make him lick Morgana or something

https://tenor.com/view/persona-persona5-morgana-catfish-mona-gif-22879397

Soz mate

[hallow panther]

Which one of you is streaming rose and violet on tiktok lmfao

on sae’s palace just finished dark maze

I thought it was kasumi as protag but crows lines said rose

[rich tree]

@random hinge dude beautiful work on hawaii that was perfect I just finished. you my friend have worked magic with this mod.

[hallow panther]

[granite wren]

[hallow panther]

Zylvos will get all the props in the world and it still wont be enough

[rich tree]

right

[hallow panther]

Cuz of how phenomenal this mod is

[left knoll]

male pronoun here

the audio replaces it for "her" so yeah sae's refering to kasumi here

[granite wren]

Yeah it's about the Metaverse swap plan so it is to Rose

[hallow panther]

I hope rose and violet kept the haru interactions like this either that or make rejecting her less painful

[queen leaf]

wish i could use the better haru rejection mod 😭

feels like you’re breaking her heart into a million pieces when you friendzone her

[random hinge]

Added, thanks!

[random hinge]

I've changed the dialogues in her rank 9 quite a bit. The rejection is far less painful (even painless), in my opinion

[topaz sigil]

As someone who has been following the progress of this mod since its initial gamebanana days, and only recently started trying it out last week, I just wanted to say how amazing it is that you've put this all together with the others in the community and made something quite astounding.

I used to mod back in the early days of Oblivion, and it's no easy feat; doubly so with something on this scale. Keep up the great work. Since I'm using the mod now, I'll dig around and try stuff to see if I can't help with finding any other bugs or giving some other cool suggestions to improve it further.

What's here so far has made my twentieth playthrough of P5 feel brand new, so thank you once again.

[rich tree]

oh for sure the haru rejection is a lot better now

[naive aspen]

I wonder are there any big changes during the ||yusuke arc?|| can’t wait for a full release but I also wanna know

[naive stream]

Typo found during || the third semester, on 1/2 ||

Should say "practically"

[random hinge]

Added to the list, thanks!

[rich tree]

nothing i really noticed other then the hot pot bathhouse is now with ann

[jade current]

Small thing, but just wanna say the instructions for the portrait work very nicely! I do use the white leotard outfit with ponytail and looks real good!

[cedar fiber]

Heya folks, downloaded the mod, great shit, played through 26 hours of it, love the effort going on here...

But I have a sinking feeling from looking at other screenshots of the mod posted here that I might be missing something lmao (For example, Kasumi's hair is apparently supposed to be darker than Sumire's, and Kasumi is supposed to have a slightly different PT outfit???) Either I'm getting other mods that work with this mixed up, or something is wrong.

Either way, any help is much appreciated! And also thanks for Zylvos for all of their hard work on this mod!

[spare oak]

alternate models is not the one from the google drive no?

[cedar fiber]

I don't think so?

[spare oak]

yeah at some point along the line the gamebanana version of alt models stopped working

so technically youve played thru 26 hours as sumire

[cedar fiber]

Dang

So I guess I just disable the Alt models thing, and use the one from Google Drive, then?

[spare oak]

yeah

theres pony tail and long hair version

[left knoll]

yeah kasumi has brown hair so you're probably using an outdated version

(personally that's not an issue for me since i honestly like the red hair a lot more but it makes sense story wise so)

[toxic fiber]

If you want to play with the red hair long hair is your automotive choice ponytail is a Canon version is going to be the brown one. That's how the two sisters were differentiated, so they're actually fraternal twins not identical genetics are fun

[cedar fiber]

Thanks folks, got it all settled now

Honestly glad that the literal only problem I had was just that lol

[spare oak]

yeah

just remember to stay up to date with each version

[cedar fiber]

I think I got the mods like a week or so ago, so it should be up to date? (Or at least, 99% up to date.)

Still though, will definitely keep up

👍

[spare oak]

i heard some time around the 20th is kasumi protag intended date

[cedar fiber]

Ooo

Gotcha gotcha

[rapid mural]

So although it wasn't my intention... The Ann Long Hair Mod sort of reinforces the fact that everyone is older than Kasumi.

I mean she also looks really neat. I also recommend it as just a stable mod that so far has no issues I have seen and is consistent everywhere including bustups.

and when you are dating Ann in the middle of July!

Thieves Strategy Meeting: Ryoma Yasurakashi formerly known as Kasumi next to her girlfriend.

Oh that is also with the new MyTamagos hair!

[civic crow]

I missed something Makoto just referred to me as the cheating gymnast. Is there a different reason that you’re on probation I might’ve missed that because I couldn’t get the mod to work. At the beginning of the game.

[jade current]

Because you're kasumi in the mod you're labled as the cheating gymnast or ex-gymnast. Different from the infamous transfer student of Joker/Ren.

Don't forget the mod can't really work around the og voice acting too much, so it's primarily in text you'll see any changes like that.

[hallow panther]

Encountered a silly glitch with the battle/hold up music. I guess i timed it perfectly but if you all out attack right when the hold up music starts the game gets confused and if the all out attack doesn’t kill you get to have the hold up music play in battle

nothing severe and i dont know if i can replicate it but i thought it was funny

[spare oak]

oh yea that was a thing people wrre talking about that a while ago

[hallow panther]

Further testing has shown me the timing window is lenient. All you gotta do is spam the shit outta all out attack when you knock all enemies down. To not have this happen just wait until after the hold up music kicks in

[hallow panther]

Ohh ok

[random hinge]

Make sure you delete the old one before installing the new version. They have the same mod ID, so Reloaded will only show one. It should say 1.3.0-HFX (X=2, 3, etc. I don't remember which version is the current one)

[random hinge]

Yes, that's a glitch that's caused by my mods. Disabling everything Rose & Violet / Kasumi as Protagonist doesn't fix it. It may be something with one of the frameworks, or CBT, or Ryo, or Persona Essentials... We don't really know

[topaz sigil]

I believe Ponytail is HF2 and Long Hair is HF3.

As of when I checked before work earlier today.

[tribal otter]

I liked when Ryuji pointed it out

Something like "Kasumi fits that too"

[topaz sigil]

I kind of want a bit more dialogue with them regarding Kasumi. I feel like there's a lack of mention of her in situations where the other girls are mentioned, and it's a little jarring at times.

It's such a cool mod over all though.

[random hinge]

Do you have an example? I remember adding her to a lot of those dialogues (and the event editing to make her participate in the girl stuff)

[topaz sigil]

One was the whole thing with Yusuke trying to blackmail the Thieves. Given some of the options Kasumi presents in situations where she offers to do something instead, it surprised me she wasn't brought up as an alternative to Ann modeling for Yusuke (or at least the idea being proposed before being shot down because Yusuke probably wouldn't accept such a change).

Other little choices like that. They aren't really big things (quite the contrary, they are minor and don't detract from anything), but I do feel they could be missed opportunities for some more funny or witty responses from Kasumi (sort of like how Joker usually has serious responses...and then a few outlandish ones for the comedy).

Granted, we get precious little about Kasumi's actual personality from the base game, and it is a really minor thing, but given the love and care put into many of the edits and scenes, those little things just stand out to me.

Sorry if it is nitpicking. I just really love how much was put into the mod, so I want to see it be the best it can.

[random hinge]

I remember adding a mention of Kasumi modelling for Yusuke before Ryuji says "This ain't what he want" and Kasumi acting a lot more worried, but maybe that didn't land very well
For the responses, I tried to keep the general idea of Joker's answers, but to change it to fit Kasumi's personality. I could've made them a bit more bland as a result. Adding completely new answers would require event editing, so I tried working within the confine of the existing dialogues

[random hinge]

No worries, feedback is welcome!

[topaz sigil]

Totally understood! Event editing can be difficult. I barely understood Oblivion modding, and Persona seems like a whole other beast.

I still love what is there so far. It's really amazing work.

It's even crazier to me is that it works. I've not really had any bugs so far.

I'm still trying some things though, perhaps things that may not even have been thought of. Just to see if I find any.

[random hinge]

Also, it can be bit difficult to see the "flow" of the events without playing the game. Editing individual files is fine, but you don't see how play out in the game. I played and edited the Yusuke arc a long time ago now so it may have "less" stuff than the other's I made more recently

[topaz sigil]

I still appreciate that Kasumi gets a "Beep boop," joke with Makoto.

I would've started a riot if she didn't also do it. XD

[random hinge]

Yes, I had to keep the little jokes around. There are more of them in the text chats and in the event I have edited that makes her act a bit more silly

[rapid mural]

To be dead honest and its not like I am not both queer and trans.-- That comment we can make to Ann when she asks about Yusuke and Ryujii made me think about and eventually choose her for Kasumi.

Really good choice too as although her dynamic is sooo differnet than Betafemc Bein with Ann means many events I never saw with Makoto.

Oh and although I feel like a teen myself again I havebt done Hawaii yet!

[topaz sigil]

That was a good little event. I had Kasumi choose Yusuke, mostly because I feel he'd be a good fit given their personalities.

Though the completionist in me dreams of being able to do a run with everyone at least once.

I did it with Joker, so I want to do it with Kasumi too.

[rapid mural]

If my mostlygay personage ever romances a phantom thief it shall be Yusuke. I was given French lessons at 5 and practically grew up at an art museum.

[granite wren]

https://tenor.com/view/yusuke-kitagawa-persona5-gif-19853524

[crystal lagoon]

i need a bit help with sumire hair when i start the game at the tutorial on the casino she has long hair but after the tutorials on the train station it changes on the ponytail am i mising something?

[unkempt hearth]

@random hinge I updated the bustups with some much needed polish, to bring it closer to the original bustup's quality. If you end up implementing these, please use these ones instead 👍

I didn't capture this one either, but the line before this the upbeat shadow's line was "Trying to be a real man, huh?"

[random hinge]

Thanks, I'll use those then. There was indeed a shiny ring around the button that was very noticeable (probably not so much in game)

[random hinge]

And thanks for that one as well. I'll edit the negotation dialogues around that one

[hallow panther]

I love how anastasie’s luck is 1

wont stop me from hitting a crit

Lmao

[hallow panther]

Oh i got bullets EVERYWHERE

[spare oak]

lmao

[hallow panther]

didn’t grind whatsoever and barely failed the last damage check in kamoshidas but he was already half dead so i just ignored everyone when they “lets take that crown”

[hallow panther]

The coffee brewing outfit makes kasumi look like monika from ddlc lmao

[jade current]

I gotta say. Kasumi's version of "button mashing" with morgana just gave me the biggest, widest grin I've had in a good while. I couldn't NOT pick that one.

Like I had her be generally more sweet around people and then... I just knew what option to pick then.

[cedar fiber]

Time to button mash, "Master."

[tropic torrent]

does anyone use the "royal female audio" mod?

[spare oak]

yeah

its decent but some of the audio splices are like

cringeworthy

better than nothing i guess

[tropic torrent]

some instances it just straight up skip the pronouns for me

[sudden mantle]

Same. Sometimes the pronouns get kind of cut off, so you only hear the "h" sound

[hallow panther]

First one “there sheis”

[stiff viper]

Hey guys, so far the mod has been working well for me (just a couple of random crashes but I think it's more due to the instability of Persona 5R, anyway I'm saving every time I have the option), is there any way to make Morgana not call you Joker? Rose appears in the dialogue but the audio says Joker. I know one of the mods fixes Futaba's behavior. Is there a similar one for Morgana?

[sudden mantle]

I don't think there's a way to get the audio to call you Rose, just the text. I think some things may have been adjusted to just not refer to Joker at all, but I'm saying that as someone who has only just started playing the gane with this mod

[hallow panther]

looking cool _____

[peak drift]

I thought maybe Morgana would mention roses in his showtime with Ann and Futaba might on her white day event and then maybe I could splice something together. But nope nothing 😭

[granite wren]

My only thought is maybe just using Morgana's "Ooh we can do this" from the exams over "Looking cool Joker" but then that still leaves the other two Navis saying Joker

Maybe another place to look is other Cassandra Lee Morris roles right?

[rapid mural]

I'd say try Morgana's Japanese Voice Actor too but All I can think is its too bad the stage show is only P5 original

for many reasoms

[topaz sigil]

The only current solution I can think of is simply going in and editing each voice file to cut out mentions of Joker (really only possible with Navigator lines). If I could be provided with a full list of voice files, I could potentially do these edits (also replacing Joker mentions with spliced She's and Her's).

I'm pretty sure that Morgana, Futaba, and Akechi all say Her or She at some point.

I used to be an audio engineer, so this would be in my wheelhouse.

[granite wren]

Royal Female Audio has you covered for shes and hers but Nav lines would need to be done yeah, they're the only ones left

I'd have a look for a list of the navigation voice files but I'm on holiday so my laptop's at home, and I think Amiticia only covers music

[topaz sigil]

Royal FemaleAudio is also very choppily done.

I know it could be done a lot better.

[spare oak]

true

some of the splices are comically bad

(i say with no experience of my own)

[topaz sigil]

No, you're right.

Some of them are really poorly done.

[spare oak]

And some are very good as well

it's a weird bag

[topaz sigil]

Like, Akechi says "Yoshizawa" often enough that I could reasonably use the "-shi-" for most of his lines when referring to Kasumi.

Replacing "He" with "Shi".

[spare oak]

That's a good point

[granite wren]

Amiticia says all the lines are kept in SOUND_E.cpk for English
It sounds like a good project to take up though to improve the splices and include navi lines! Maybe if you make a thread for it like the cutscene redrawing did, there might be some of the more prolific modders willing to offer directions?

In navigating the sound file structure

[topaz sigil]

I lack most of the programs and equipment to actually fetch the files, so I'd need a lot of their assistance.

[granite wren]

[topaz sigil]

Once I actually have all the WAVs (or whatever format they are in), I can do the rest.

[granite wren]

https://www.sounds-resource.com/playstation_4/persona5royal/

Try from here for at least the navi lines as a proof of concept, then audio modders can help you with converting things to the right format if you make a thread (maybe named something like [P5R PC] Rose and Violet Female Audio for Navigators)

There's a whole section for Navigator lines

As for the lines from the actual English script I have no idea

[topaz sigil]

"Joker's been brainwashed! He can't tell friend from foe!"
"Panther's brainwashed? She doesn't know who's who!"

I think my first simple solution would be to take the Joker lines and replace Joker with "She". I'll need to comb over all the different "She"s to see which one flows best with the line.

[granite wren]

Yeah that sounds sensible to me

[topaz sigil]

Especially since I don't think Futaba ever says anything related to Rose, or the syllables of it.

That, or we just replace Joker's lines with her generic ones.

"You're brainwashed? W-We're not your enemies!"

That would be a far easier solution for all the Navs, actually.

[granite wren]

I guess getting Rose from Frozen might be too janky...? That's only close thing I can think of

[topaz sigil]

Hmm.

It'd be doable, but choppy.

[granite wren]

Yeah the "she" way is probably better

If only it wasn't Featherman Red and Featherman Pink but Featherman Rose

[topaz sigil]

Honestly, there are generic lines for every condition already, so the easiest solution in short term is to just call those lines when it'd normally call a Joker line.

"You're frozen solid! You can't move like this!"

It makes more sense this way anyways since the game takes place from our POV.

[granite wren]

[topaz sigil]

I'll mess with the lines this week.

See what I can come up with.

[granite wren]

Keep us posted

[topaz sigil]

Just for proof of concept. If it is worth a separate thread, I'll see about starting one.

[granite wren]

[random hinge]

Rose & Violet Beta 1 - Hotfix 5 (Pre-release build)
The following mods have been updated:

• Alternate models mod (ponytail). New version "HF3".
• Long hair variant models mod. New version is "HF4".
• Rose & Violet Story Overhaul. New version is "HF5".

The following mods have been removed:

• Addon mod : Weapons and Equipment Patch (Rose & Violet).
• Addon mod : Confidant Cheat Sheet (Rose & Violet).
• Addon mod : Classroom Cheat Sheet (Rose & Violet).

The following mod has been added:

• Model mod: costumes addon.

All the addons have been made Configure Options for Rose & Violet. Delete the mods to prevent them from interfering with future edits.
A massive thank you to Wisteria for their help with the configure options!

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cpFZisgX0PqGAvu2LipYZ1fk-YIziilB?usp=drive_link

Changelog:

Models mod
Configure options have been added (disabled by default):

• Pure White Phantom Thief outfit (include the bustups and AOA portrait from Johesy) over the default one.
• Red and White Phantom Thief outfit (include the bustups and AOA portrait from Johesy) over the default one.
• Golden rapier : change the color of rapiers from silver to gold to fit with the white variants of the PT outfits. This is kept optional if you prefer using the daggers (Configure option in Wisteria's mod).
• Blue dress from Sumire's confidant over the winter casual.
• For Ponytail version only : L7M3 animated portraits have been added (Except the long hair portrait).
  Note: For the white variants, the flashbacks and the AOA finisher are unchanged.
  A maskless variant of the black leotard has been added as a costume (including for white variants).
  The new costumes (2B, Aerith, etc.) have been moved to a separate mod "Costumes addon" to reduce the the weight of the other mods. This mod contains all the hair variants.
  The white variants work in cutscenes!

Rose & Violet Story Overhaul

• Confidant Cheat Sheet has been added as a configure option (disabled by default).
• Classroom Cheat Sheet has been added as a configure option (disabled by default).
• Weapons and Equipment Patch has been added as a Configure Option (disabled by default). It is recommended to enable that one.
• Typos have been fixed.

Confidant Cheat Sheet

• Removed. Delete this mod from your Mods folder after updating and use the configure option in Rose & Violet.

Classroom Cheat Sheet

• Removed. Delete this mod from your Mods folder after updating and use the configure option in Rose & Violet.

Setup

• Load order updated (without the removed mods).
• Configure options for the model mods and the story overhaul have been added with explanations.
• Added a section with common issues, based on everyone feedback. Thank you all!

Reminder:

• Make sure Custom Bonus Tweaks (version 2.6.0+) and Persona Essentials (version 2.9.2+) are up to date.
• Don't use the alternate models mod on Gamebanana. It is outdated and will not work with Wisteria's latest test build.
• Make sure Wisteria's test build is up to date.

Please, update to the latest version of those mods to make sure the report are accurate. To do so, delete the folder with the previous version and replace it with the new version.

**L7M3 portraits **(animated in game). They are a configure option in the ponytail model mod.

First time I'm reaching the 2000 characters limit twice

[rich tree]

mod order look ok? i just updated

[random hinge]

Move the Alternate models above Rose & Violet and it should be good

[rich tree]

thank you for all your hard work btw only way i want to play the game now

[pure inlet]

blue dress?

🤔

[pure inlet]

same!

[pure inlet]

nvm i remember now

[true thorn]

can i please have an updated installation procedure?

[random hinge]

Yeah, I made that option for the first release on Gamebanana and it seems fairly popular so I'm bringing it back for the next release
The blue dress has a story significance for Sumire, but might as well have it for Kasumi if people like it

[random hinge]

It's all written above. The setup in the google drive is also updated

[rich tree]

i like the cleaned up install less zips to move

[humble trail]

hey do we need remove weapon patch?

[random hinge]

Yes. Remove it and enable it in "Configure" with the new version of Rose & Violet

[humble trail]

i think we need

okok

byw royal fem audio is only for eng right?

if i use jp vocie i can just delete it right?

[random hinge]

Yes, Royal FemaleAudio only has english. You can just disable it

It's not a dependency

[humble trail]

ok to delet instead?

[random hinge]

Well, delete if you want, but you can just disable it

[humble trail]

okok

[humble trail]

no update for Wisteria mod so far right? still 3.0.9.9 HF3?

[pure inlet]

Btw

Is there any place in this server to ask for instructions on how to make a mod?

[hallow panther]

as soon as i get everything installed and figured out theres an update

Time to do all this again

[humble trail]

When it comes to cosmetic you guys all have it at zero right

[random hinge]

Yes, no changes here

[random hinge]

That's normal, don't worry

[humble trail]

okok nice

[swift whale]

Hey so, I don't know which one it is exactly, but one of the mods auto-downloads the outdated Kasumi as Protag mod from Gamebanana, the 0.2.2 one, as soon as it's added to Reloaded-2
I was confused for a moment as to why I couldn't configure the mod until I realized I had 2 separate versions

[random hinge]

Hum, I'd say the "Help Making Mods" section should have what you need. If you can't find a thread that already answers your questions, you should make one

[random hinge]

I think it's because I've set a dependency to "Kasumi as protagonist", but the only one that Reloaded knows so far is the one on Gamebanana

If you install Wisteria's mod first, it should recognize the test build

Anyway, this will be fixed when the mods are released on GB

[swift whale]

Fair enough
I figured since these are still pre-release mods I'd delete and redownload Wisteria's mods as well as delete the cache when updating, just to make sure there aren't any issues, so there was probably a small amount of time where your mod was present but Wisteria's wasn't yet

Btw I'm curious, I noticed the "Expanded Phone Apps" was added to the list of incompatible mods, what's the conflict with it?

[granite wren]

It also changes script files, ask Fushikio as they reported it

[humble trail]

futaba skill is dependent on her luck right?

[swift whale]

I'm aware it also changes script files, tho I've been using it alongside this mod and haven't had any problems yet (I've just defeated Madarame), so I'm curious when the conflict starts

@rapid mural What problem did you encounter with Expanded Phone Apps?

[swift whale]

All of her skills that have a "chance" to activate are based on luck, the higher it is the more frequently they activate
Although 99 Luck doesn't mean a 99% chance to activate, but it'll still happen pretty often

[humble trail]

hmmm what accesary you put on her?

i going to get lucky robe for her

[swift whale]

I don't remember, but essentially her only stat that matters is luck, so just throw your highest luck-giving equipment and accessories to her
Also, when you get access to the Jazz Club and start having some nights where there's nothing to do, take her there whenever the drink gives a Luck stat
Also, the drinks that normally give party member skills do actually give her some passive equivalents that she can use on the team

[hallow panther]

Fingers crossed i think i have everything

Also yippie the opening doesn’t lag for me anymore

[humble trail]

last part you mean she can learn support skill from Sunday cocktail?

[hallow panther]

tis working

Hooray

Thank you Zylvos

[swift whale]

She can learn four of them, always in the same order, on any Sunday
Support Plus 1, 2, 3, each level adds another stat that can be lowered for the ennemies (defense, attack, accuracy/evasion)
And Support Rate Up, which increases the chance of Moral Support (the skill that buffs allies) to activate, and while it doesn't say it, Support Plus counts as Moral Support so it's also affected by Support Rate Up

[swift whale]

Btw, Support Plus 2 overwrites 1, 3 overwrites 2, as they combine the effects of their previous levels, so they only take up one skill slot together

[lapis tartan]

should the costumes addon go above or below the alternate models?

[random hinge]

Above or below, it doesn't matter. I'd say, put it below so it's tidy

[lapis tartan]

ok

this is my load order rn if i missed something

[random hinge]

Looks good to me

You can delete the Classroom Ceat Sheet/ Confidant Cheat Sheet / Weapons & Equipment patch now if you want

It makes the load order cleaner

[lapis tartan]

yeah

just occurred to me i gotta overhaul my steam deck's load order too now

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-hank-hank-hill-water-hose-shoot-me-gif-3699665

one of these days someone ought to make r2 for linux

[raw marlin]

It wasn’t?

[lapis tartan]

no

[humble trail]

Hey does sees armbands work on futaba? If not what accesssay I put on her?

Some say luck affect her some say it doesn't

[rich tree]

ive used a hex edit to max her luck before with not noticeable up tick in her doing anything

so i don't think it does as much as people say

[rich tree]

https://www.farming-simulator.com/mod.php?lang=en&country=us&mod_id=161222&title=fs2019

[swift whale]

Did you misclick and send this to the wrong server or...?

[ornate canopy]

Luck doesn't affect anything with regards to Futaba. It was a rumor that got proven false.

The only accessory that affects Futaba would be exp increasing accessories

[swift whale]

Could you provide a source to this debunking?

[ornate canopy]

I mean, I could go searching around to find someone with proof, but I think just looking at her Personas stats proves this. Her Luck stat goes down when Necronomicon evolves to Prometheus, which wouldn't make sense if her luck stat mattered. Just like with Rise and Fuuka, their stats don't actually do anything in-game, with the exception of Fuuka's SP.

[hallow panther]

Fuck would luck do? Increase the chance of active support?

[swift whale]

This is Atlus we're talking about tho
Someone's stats going down is hardly proof, especially when you look at the sheer number of mods across the Persona series that are literally just "fixes this very obvious issue Atlus left in the game"

[ornate canopy]

That's what most people think. I mean, it would make sense; something chance based being based off luck.

[swift whale]

Well, yeah
It literally says it has a chance to activate, and multiple people (myself included) have noticed an increase in activation frequency as Futaba's luck stat grows, same for the previous navigators

[ornate canopy]

Could be placebo effect, but you're right. I shouldn't have said something as fact without concrete proof, that's on me.

[swift whale]

It could absolutely be shared placebo, hence why I didn't dismiss it outright
But until I'm given proof, not counting Atlus' spaghetti code and weird decision making, I'm going to trust the observations I've made myself

[ornate canopy]

That's fair

[hallow panther]

You want some high quality Italian food just go to any atlus games source code

Spaghetti for days

[granite wren]

I always thought it was tied to Confidant rank like Rise was

Cuz otherwise you'd be punished for maxing her link

(Prometheus luck drop)

[swift whale]

Plus, while Fuuka has little chance based skills in P3R, Rise does in P4G, and I noticed the same thing there
The more her luck stat rose, whether by leveling up or with the theater, her skills happened more often, to the point where in certain battles they'd activate multiple times in the same battle, and IF it's the case there, I don't see why they'd remove it for the Navigator that has even more chance based skills

Also, it's worth pointing out that Prometheus having lower luck than Necronomicon could be some stupid leftover glitch that causes it to overflow and get lowered

[granite wren]

All of Rise's stats reset when her Persona evolves yet her proc chance went up

[swift whale]

It's both
The Confidant rank boosts the chance of activating her skills (that part is just outright stated on certain levels), independent of the luck boost

[swift whale]

See the part where I mention Atlus' dumbass spaghetti code, poor decision making, and potential overflow

[tropic torrent]

I mean, there is no evidence to suggest luck affects futaba anywhere

[granite wren]

All the evidence I've seen and personally experienced points to it just being Confidant/SL rank

[tropic torrent]

You can't really make a case with "Yeah atlus got shit coding" as evidence

[swift whale]

Now again, I absolutely could be wrong, but I'm far from the only person who's noticed an increase in activation frequency with Luck

[tropic torrent]

That...really doesn't mean anything.

[swift whale]

Can you please point to me where I used that as evidence?
Because what I actually did do was point out Atlus shit coding to explain why the Luck stat lowering isn't definite proof

[naive aspen]

ProtonGE10-1 works great for reloaded II

pretty much fixes all issues

[granite wren]

Kind of a shame with how far into decomp projects and code editing people have gotten, surely someone would have come out with the proof one way or the other by now

It's basically personal experience vs personal experience as I know just as many others who don't believe it's luck-based

At the end of the day though it doesn’t hurt either way, what else would really go in Fuuka, Futaba or Rise's accessory slots, may as well toss a Luck accessory on

Like, EXP accessory I guess????

[swift whale]

Oh absolutely, at the end of the day even if I'm completely wrong I'd still give the navigators luck boosting equipment just in case it affects it

[ornate canopy]

I prefer SP accessories for Fuuka but yeah, it doesn't really matter that much

[granite wren]

I'm just surprised with all the advancements in code peeking nobody can tell either way

Thank you weird Atlus coding

[granite wren]

Ohhh shoot yeah I forgot she spends her SP

[ornate canopy]

Might just be lack of trying. It's not much of an issue to most people.

[granite wren]

True but imagine the free YouTube shorts you could milk from it

THIS LONG STANDING PERSONA MYTH HAS FINALLY BEEN
(insert bunches of filler obvious history)
AND THE ANSWER IS (it does/it doesn't)
SO NOW YOU KNOW THAT--

I'll take my royalties in Rise plushes

[swift whale]

It's also probably why all the skills expansion/rebalance mods never touch the navigators, the way Atlus implements them is a mess

The most I've seen is Memento Mori for P3R, which adds Spell Master and Divine Grace to Fuuka's skill tree, changes the cost of her skills, and adds a party-wide Heat Riser to the pool of buffs her Theurgy can give

[lapis tartan]

don't i need to install NET for every persona game though?

[naive aspen]

Yes since every game is technically installed on it's own computer, I would recommend having separate version of Reloaded II as well for every game

[lapis tartan]

guh

that means separating out all my mods

too much work

[naive aspen]

it's the most stable way to do it on linux ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[naive aspen]

You can organize them with fun color folders

[spare oak]

yayy

[lethal geode]

trill kotone art jumpscare

[topaz sigil]

Whoa, by the time I'm done with going through all these Navigator lines, I'll probably have them all memorized! XD

[swift whale]

I wish I didn't have any Navigator lines memorized
I love Morgana, but if I hear him say "It's almost scary how good I am" one more time, I might beat him to death

[topaz sigil]

Also, I'm saving Akechi's ones for last.

He screams quite a bit, so my ears get all tired of it after a while.

My current goal is the do all of Morgana's lines first:

1. Replacing all instances of "Joker" and "He/Him/His" with "She/Her/Hers".
2. Replacing some instances of "Joker" with syllables from other words that make the sound "Rose" (i.e. rows, rohs, roze, ec).

Then I'll move on to Futaba's lines, then Akechi's lines. I don't think Makoto has too many that would need adjusting, but I'll look at those too.

I already plan on trying to use the frequent mentions of "Yoshizawa" as the basis for the "She" sound I need.

Mostly because "-shi-" should be easier to work with than trying to slap an "S" sound in front of "He" and the like.

[topaz sigil]

"Joker's frozen! Someone help him or he can't move!" - Oracle, probably.

[rich tree]

morgana and mishima are the two i hate the most mishima just makes my skin crawl

[swift whale]

I'm so thankful the "Always Rankup" mod exists, so I can tell Mishima he's cringe and should fuck off while still getting his XP boosts

[hollow owl]

Lmao

[topaz sigil]

So, getting "Rose" from the navigators saying "Frozen" is tricky. I think it's doable.

I'll just need to figure out which inflection of "Frozen" works best.

[stable snow]

I didn't know this exists and now I need it specifically so I can tell Mishima to piss off. 10/10

[runic vapor]

godspeed bro

ik ur plan for akechi, but for angrier pronoun instances you could probably nab audio from him saying shido

[rich tree]

He is the only one I dont evven both I skip his whole social link cheat engine and table rank 10 done

i dont even have to talk to him other then forced interaction

its worked on 5 runs so far even with the mod

thats how little I like the character i will go out of my way to try and invalidate his very exsistince lol

my first full run with the rose mod i did go ahead and do his full social link and yeah zylos did a damn good job but it makes him even more unlikeable

[ornate canopy]

Not sure if this is a problem with my installation somehow, but the Confidant and Classroom Cheat Sheet options are swapped for me? E.g. I turn on Confidant Cheat Sheet and it activates the Classroom Cheat Sheet and vice versa.

[stable snow]

To clarify

Are they displaying the wrong answers for things, or is it that when you turn on the Confidant cheat sheet, it displays classroom answers in their correct places and correctly?

And then vice versa

[topaz sigil]

@runic vapor @granite wren As well as anyone else interested. I put this together with Oracle.

[runic vapor]

DAMNNNNNNNNNNNN THATS GOOD

[topaz sigil]

Used her lines for Yusuke as a base.

[runic vapor]

if ever needed could u help me when it comes to cutscene audio?

[topaz sigil]

I'll see what I can do.

So sure.

[runic vapor]

hell yeah dude

ty

wont be for a while tho so dw and focus on ur own stuff :)

[topaz sigil]

The sample above could be made better. I threw the above together in about 15 minutes.

So plenty of room to refine it.

[runic vapor]

damn

[topaz sigil]

Likely by adjusting the crossfades and tightening the splices.

Futaba is extremely chatty, so she might actually be the easiest compared to the other two.

[runic vapor]

nice

[zinc meadow]

sorry to bother everyone, does the gamebanana page not have download options for the mod? Is the mod available to the public or is it private only?

Thanks

[ornate canopy]

Everything about the mods themselves function correctly, just that enabling the Confidant Cheatsheet acts like I enabled Classroom Cheatsheet instead.

[ornate canopy]

Link to the latest prelease version of the mod is in this thread

[ornate canopy]

Found here

[zinc meadow]

thanks so much!

[toxic fiber]

Wait what's the Sunday cocktail?

[spare oak]

jazz club

sunday

[civic crow]

Can someone tell me the parts with the most changed dialogue without telling me what they are

[spare oak]

first exam week has a whole new event

[rapid mural]

Wow My possibly English friend!

[topaz sigil]

Palaces, Some Early Confidants, Events during some Palaces, Exam Weeks, Some Late Confidants, iirc.

(Misread your post, apologies.)

[rapid mural]

Oh btw @topaz sigil if you ever decide to work on Japanese Audio... Although It only does orignal P5 Ikue Ohtani, the voice of Morgana, also voices Morgana in all the Persona 5 stage shows.

This is including the occasional adlib and theatre announcements.

Just an idea if you get like me and decide "Hey this is fun!!"

[topaz sigil]

I'll think about it. It'd require me to learn Japanese first, so that'd be an extra time commitment.

For now, I'll probably only do English splicing.

[civic crow]

All good

[civic crow]

I saw that I was curious if there was more expanded past that on what they mention

[topaz sigil]

Oracle's chattiness is good, but she also uses a lot of contractions (i.e. "Joker's" instead of "Joker is"), although I feel she is more just speaking fast than doing it intentionally. Does make sifting through these a bit trickier than normal.

It's funny that Oracle arguably shows more concern with some of these status lines about Crow than she does Joker. XD

[stable snow]

My guess is a harmless mix up on the file names

You could try renaming them and seeing if it corrects the behaviour. Mod loader could be being silly goofy about them too. But if they work as intended (just swapped around) personally I would just tank it

If you do want to rename them, make copies of both mods as-is somewhere you'll remember them so that way you have unaltered versions to slot back in if they somehow inadvertently break

[stable snow]

Average sibling behaviour. She knows Joker'll be fiiinneeee

[topaz sigil]

I can probably condense some of these lines to start.

I'll focus on the lines where Oracle, Mona, and Crow all mention Joker specifically.

I can do the rest after that.

I will also prioritize the lines where a generic option (i.e. "You") is not available.

[rapid mural]

Sometimes I forget taht even if I dont think about it my recognition for Japanese and German is very high. (I recognize individual words almost evry time evenn if I dont always understand them)

I would recommend watching the stage shows when yer taking a break cause they have subs and are fun!

As a side note Even though I play in Japanese if there was a new Kasumi audio mod where she was called Rose I would use it. Random english be damned.

I low key want a "Gasp The Enemy!" mod for Futaba

[topaz cedar]

Hey I was wondering if someone could help me

[rich tree]

typo should be you both have instead of have both

[granite wren]

Oh wow this is incredible

[rancid falcon]

Maybe something among the lines of "I have to say though, it's very peculiar[n]that you both have such similar outfits.[n]Maybe it's because you're twins?"

[cold kiln]

@random hinge i have a question for ya once your mods done i was wondering if i could use it to make a switch port of it I'm already working with wisteria for the switch port of the kasumi as protagonist mod.

[stuck condor]

this question feels obvious but do you fuse anastasie the same way you fuse arsene?

[raw marlin]

You should I don’t see why not?

It is just an Arsene model and name replacement

[stuck condor]

idk if this has been made aware of already but i found an oopsy

the likelihood anyone would even see this is low i just happened to accidentally click on it

[pine cliff]

I'm curious, is there a reason Kasumi and Sumire are twins in this mod? Since they weren't in the original

[random hinge]

I've tested it and you're right, they're swapped. I forgot to test them individually, ahah.
I've reported the issue to Wisteria so this can be fixed in the next update

[random hinge]

Sure! I don't own a switch and I don't know how mods work on it so I can't really help you

[random hinge]

Yeah, it sounds a bit weird. I'll fix it for the next, probably with Grinchula suggestion

[cold kiln]

I have a question for when you think the mods going to be finished? Like a sort of time frame if you don’t mind me asking?

[topaz sigil]

Likely for convenience with a lot of Sumire's assets being adjusted for use as Kasumi.

[random hinge]

Nice catch, I'll try to fix that one for the next update. Thanks!

[lapis tartan]

pretty sure kasumi isn't substantially older

[topaz sigil]

Yeah, from what actual canon info we get in the game, their age difference is likely very minimal, and Kasumi looks almost identical to Sumire during the Third Semester.

[lapis tartan]

though if she was then i suppose it would better explain why in this mod she's put into the second year

[topaz sigil]

The narrative works either way.

I think I'll take tomorrow off. I spent all day listening to Futaba say, "Frozen," in a variety of different ways. XD

[random hinge]

I know they're not in the original (and it could have made the "skipped the first year" a bit easier), but I prefer them to be twins in this mod because:

• I don't have to deal with the "big sister" thing. If Sumire thinks she's a the big sister, then Kasumi will quickly figure out she's trying to be her.
• ||Since Kasumi's not dead, Sumire thinks she's the "lesser twin" that's dragging her sister down. In the mod, Kasumi's starts gymnastics earlier than Sumire, but they're still in the same "grade" in gymnastics. Sumire feels like she lagging behind (and being a burden). Her actualization is her wish to be at her sister's level, but she can't suddenly become the older sibling (or I feel it would be too obvious something's wrong with her).||

[lapis tartan]

no easy solution unfortunately

only alternative explanation i can think of is that sumire got held back and is thus a year behind, which would compound the inferiority complex

might be reaching with that one though

[random hinge]

Maybe, but I'd prefer not to change the whole story now
To support Kasumi skipping the first year:
The school wants both sisters for their notoriety, but they don't want Kasumi to badly influence Sumire so this is how they try to separate them. It also falls in line with Shujin terrible management.
They want to "redeem" Kasumi so moving her a year will force her to study to catch up. She was a model student before, so that's expected of her. It also gives you a good reason to fail your exams

Also, multiple characters mention how odd it is. Aknowledging it in game makes it a bit more plausible I think

[random hinge]

I'll release the mod when Wisteria releases theirs. It's pretty much done at this point, but I still have some typos to fix and the issue with the swapped config options. New romances will be looked into after release, but that' much later

[cold kiln]

Wisteria’s releasing the mod around the 20th of this month which I will be working on porting to the switch once it’s released.

[rich tree]

they are twins the wikia implys as much

they were both 15 when kasumi dies in the original un modded game

just feternal twins not identical

kasumi is likely the older by a matter of mins

[crystal lagoon]

yea i found many of these things that they still saying joker and not rose

[random hinge]

If you still see a few "Joker" around, let me know so I can fix. However, it's possible you'll see some because of other mods you're using. I've had very few of them in my testing run (though I haven't been able to test everything)

[crystal lagoon]

i believe she should had summer uniform here or am i mistaken?

[lapis tartan]

they change the uniforms that day no?

and he forgot so he has to rush back home to change into the summer one

[random hinge]

Exactly. See how the NPCs behind have their summer uniform

[crystal lagoon]

i mean kashumis uniform she have a uniform with long sleeves

[spare oak]

uhh i dont think so

[random hinge]

This is her summer uniform. She wears the black jacket with the winter uniform

[crystal lagoon]

aaah okey i couldnt remember her summer uniform and i thought it was a bug or sth

[radiant plume]

yeah everyone wears their summer uniform except ryuji

he forgets so he has to run back to change

[hallow panther]

He shoulda just went to school with the winter one on

For more aura

[spare oak]

that would be extremely embarrassing

[granite wren]

Ryuji could pull it off

[red inlet]

Sooo

||Is Ren gonna be the vehicular manslaughter victim?/j||

[granite wren]

No he's been Thanos snapped and does not exist

[swift whale]

Hey I'm curious about something
I know the confidants have all had changes, some minimal some a little more impactful

How much was Akechi changed? By that I mean, in vanilla you need to call him your rival and accept his glove to unlock his 3rd awakening, are those dialogue choices still there or were they changed to something else?

[topaz sigil]

Most are still there for Akechi. There is some new lines to account for Kasumi, but otherwise, he's good ol' Akechi.

[random hinge]

Small changes, but nothing too major. ||He's having feelings for her before saying she's the one person he refuses to lose to (since hate and love are two sides of the same coin). They're still rivals, and it fits well with Kasumi's personality since she hates losing (stated in Sumire's confidant as well)||

[swift whale]

Good to know
I was simply worried about missing the 3rd Awakening flags if the choices that trigger them had been changed too much

[random hinge]

I've changed the answer choice a bit to fit Kasumi, but it's still the same idea (I accept your duel or something)

[granite wren]

Oh technically you only need Maruki maxed to access third sem
Unless you mean progressing Akechi specifically then yeah
I had him at a really low rank and still got the 3rd sem

[swift whale]

No I mean specifically his Persona's 3rd Awakening
Everyone else just needs their confidant maxed out, but Akechi needs specific dialog choices to be chosen during his confidant story

[granite wren]

Ohhh, huh
TIL

[swift whale]

Yeah, you need to call him your rival, accept his glove, then when he asks you what you want to do about the final boss you need to confidently say that you won't accept this reality, upon which ||Robin Hood & Loki fuse to become Hereward||

I fucking love Akechi, so everything from his mechanics, his cut content, his Personas, it's all etched into my brain

[granite wren]

Yeah fair
I uh, I left him at Detective's Hunch

[lapis tartan]

it would've worked
winter uniforms in these games always look better

[hallow panther]

Facts

The change to summer uniforms makes me miss the winter ones

[hallow panther]

I feel like since || he’s a wild card you should be able to use loki and robin hood before they end up fusing ||

[magic magnet]

Same here he never left my party since the first boss fight (I removed morgana)

[rich tree]

@random hinge i hate to pester but is there a chance you could add a variant of the loungeware outfit with the pony tail. I tried and failed badly

[swift whale]

I removed Morgana when I got Fox, so...
I like the guy, but I tend not to use the non-humanoid party members much in Persona games (Koromaru, Teddie, Morgana)

[rich tree]

I run the girls normally and once given the chance I run the twins.

[static ermine]

So wait the white thief look is the new default look?

I like the og look tbh-

[rich tree]

you can chose now as far as i know

its in the model options in the updated mod

[static ermine]

Oh so a separate mod to download if ya want it

Ok cool

[rich tree]

its part of rose and violet yes

[static ermine]

(I lile the whitw outfit dont get me wrong bit i think it fits more for a plot in Strikers then royal)

[rich tree]

both of of the model mods have this option to chose default outfit

[static ermine]

Ok cool!

Thanks!

[hallow panther]

@proud finch behold

[proud finch]

oooo lalalaa

[hallow panther]

You can find more info by reading up

Or by asking Zylvos

[proud finch]

so wait

[hallow panther]

(The creator)

Everything main story wise is done just the romances and other polishing is left

[hallow panther]

The latest patch

[proud finch]

so wait

i have a few questions

give me asec

[hallow panther]

shoot

[proud finch]

i think its stuff you will be able to answer

its story wise

[hallow panther]

you play as kasumi (rose) sumire is still in the game but her stuff has been rewritten (idk how i havent gotten there yet)

[proud finch]

so this changes the 3rd semester correct?

[hallow panther]

ok you can ask away now i thought i should clear that up

[spare oak]

among other things

[hallow panther]

Hi octa
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1366247750433505320.gif?size=32

Octa knows far more than i

[spare oak]

theres a new event with sumire in the first exam week

[proud finch]

im mainly curious about 3rd semester

[spare oak]

well tbh i havent gotten there yet but theres so much good stuff here anyway

[hallow panther]

and a new event right after yusuke asks ann to model where they go eat at a diner (i think its new i dont rember it from base game)

[spare oak]

yeah it was readded

[hallow panther]

Tis fire

[spare oak]

its cut content i believe

[hallow panther]

Fire

[proud finch]

i was actually just gonna start a playthrough with all party members unlocked haha

this gives me a reason to do that

[spare oak]

😧

[hallow panther]

https://gamebanana.com/wips/88857 if you go down to the changes to base story section you will probably find what you wanna know

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1215985721739972638.webp?size=32

[proud finch]

i was reading this a while ago

thought it was super intresting

[hallow panther]

Been playing it i just got to the first half of madarame and its been fire thus far

[proud finch]

ooo okay

is there any like

glitches i should be aware of

[hallow panther]

If you follow the instructions in the google drive link then nope not that i know of

Of course if you find anything make sure to say it here

The build in this channel is a beta test build so we can help Zylvos iron out the bugs

[proud finch]

oo alright

[spare oak]

i can also help with troubleshooting a little

[proud finch]

im gonna go ahead and set this up

[jade current]

I remember someone mentioning how tricky it would be, tho I'm curious if it's possible for the animated portrait of Rose's phantom thief outfit to match up with your outfit of choice. I imagine it would be but it'd likely be a lot of work.

I was tempted to just swap that back to the static white outfit portrait I grabbed from before but eh, I really like the animated portraits so maybe not 😅 \

[proud finch]

i did get this error

[spare oak]

oh ywah

fade out table merge

its been sent here somewhere..

[proud finch]

okay wait nevermind

fixed that

new error

1 sec

[spare oak]

euhh

can i see ur mod order

[spare oak]

and versions

[spare oak]

old kasumi protag version

most common error

newest version of kasumi protag is in the pins of its post

[proud finch]

ahh okay

thank you

[spare oak]

once you get that version make sure you disable the event stuff in it bc r&v handles them already

[proud finch]

uh i cant find the newest version of kasumi as protag

latest i can find is 0.22

[spare oak]

https://pixeldrain.com/l/mrULL5wW

[hallow panther]

i was gonna say it should be in the kasumi as protag channel

But that works too

[proud finch]

thank you thank you

[hallow panther]

Its kinda tedious but its so incredibly worth it

just got past yusukes awakening

nothing but fire

[proud finch]

im trying to get this setup quick

so i can play for the next few hours

[hallow panther]

You may wanna not use auto mode cuz some of the text doesn’t have voicelines so they get passed over after a bit of time

and in the beginning most of em are quite large (to explain why kasumi is there and what happened in her hometown)

[spare oak]

yeah i learned the hard way that auto is kinda bad

some lines at the start just instantly passed despite being a sentence

[hallow panther]

Yeah if i miss one i just go into the log and read it real quick

[proud finch]

its working so good

and its so proper to

[random hinge]

You mean as a costume or to replace the one used in the story? If it's story, it'll still use the long hair portrait (since it's used for other things too)

Also, to replace the story version, I'd have to ask Wisteria's help to add the config option

[rich tree]

costume if possible

mostly want to have the option to use a pony tail version of it in the metaverse

[random hinge]

Oh, that's very easy then

I'll look into it when I get home

[rich tree]

ok ty hate to be a pain >.<

your doing such an amazing job

[random hinge]

Nah, no worries

If Wisteria's mod releases soon, I'd rather avoid updating everything now. I'll send you the stuff to add here

And i'll include it in the final release

[rich tree]

ok

i can wait for full release

either or

[cold kiln]

Same

[rich tree]

he said somewhere around the 20th i think he was aiming for

[cold kiln]

So zylvos I got some questions about your mod

Firstly I haven’t checked it much but has there been any effect on the persona you start out with or is it just a model change

[random hinge]

Just a model and name/description change. Arcana is still "Fool"

If you get a softlock at the fusion tutorial, you might have a mod or an option somewhere that changes the arcana

[cold kiln]

Alright so it still works as arsene in the fusion stuff then if that’s all that’s happens

Oh I’m working on the mod to port to switch once its ported ill play it to see if there’s any bugs I was just curious if that’s all with the persona stuff.

We’ll talk to ya later I’ll be on here for any news about the mods though

[stuck condor]

i feel like i mustve messed up somewhere

this happens whenever i get into THAT kind of loading screen in particular

and it just gets stuck loading forever

this wasnt happening before i installed the update

[random hinge]

Is it every loading screen or just on 5/31?

Basically, what were you doing before that bug?

[stuck condor]

um

well i had literally just installed it, and i went to ann's confidant and as soon as i got the take your time loading screen it was stuck in loading forever

[random hinge]

Do you have confidant Cheat sheet enabled? Can you try with another confidant?

[stuck condor]

i do have it enabled, and yes i can try with another confidant, will try with takemi

wait, i just noticed something. in the config it says to disable any other standalone cheat sheet mods, and i have the darts, negotiation, and crossword cheat sheet

it might be because of those?

im gonna disable those and try again

[random hinge]

It would be the Confidant Cheat sheet standalone

But try again with and without the Confidant Cheat sheet enabled

Classroom and Confidant cheat sheet options are swapped currently, so disable both to make sure

[stuck condor]

okay, what do you mean they're swapped?

[stuck condor]

also, as i expected, i didnt have the problem when i disabled these three mods

weirdly enough... everything seems to be working fine now

mustve been the crossword cheat sheet

which didnt even work anyway iirc

[random hinge]

Did you try again with Ann's confidant? I suspect it could be the post confidant phone call

[stuck condor]

i did, everything went completely fine

[random hinge]

In the current build, if you enable Confidant Cheat Sheet, it enables Classroom Cheat Sheet and vice versa

[random hinge]

That's weird, but alright. It could be the crossword cheat sheet if that happens when returning to Leblanc. I'll test things a bit when I get home

[crystal lagoon]

quick question about the mod is the relationships changed? i mean kashumi be able to have a relationship with a male?ryuji/yusuke etc?

[proud finch]

i dont think so

but they will be added

[topaz sigil]

@random hinge Found another instance of "him".

Granted these are Mementos convos, but I just noticed them while doing some grinding.

[humble trail]

guys do you use Persona EXP Share mod?

[raw marlin]

Yeah

[unkempt hearth]

It seems relatively easy enough to make a white version actually. I'm down to make one if it's an actual wanted feature and @buoyant arch is fine with me editing their work. It'd probably be a config option rather than a dynamic in game change though

I could probably make a long haired edit too ^^ (for the masked vers anyway)

TIL why the default portrait couldn't/hasn't be animated all this time lol

[humble trail]

what accessary actually work on futaba?

[granite wren]

EXP+ accessories

[jade current]

Oh config is the way to go for sure.

[humble trail]

should i keep lullaby or dormina on ann?

[granite wren]

Technical damage is crazy strong in Royal if you do Billiards so I kept Dormina on ber

[humble trail]

i need the slot so i think i sacrifice lullaby

[hallow panther]

dormina is just better imo

Multi target ailments rarely hit unless they’re being used against you

[magic magnet]

Remove both and use joker dlc persona

[spare oak]

[granite wren]

Ann's not so hard up for slots that you can't fit Dormina

The more the merrier to have technical procs with

and if you bring DLCs into the equation why are you not just pressing Myriad s

[spare oak]

[random hinge]

Added, thanks!
It's likely I missed more of those mementos dialogues. It's not always clear when they're talking about Joker I feel

[rich tree]

i forgot to screen shot but i noticed in Iwai's rank 10 his son says Gentleman thief

not sure there is a female alternative to that

[unkempt hearth]

"The Beauty Thief"

[random hinge]

I think I remember keeping it like that because he's also talking to his son

[buoyant arch]

I'll prob be doing one myself at some point. I still need to draw the new PT version, and with it I'd make it somewhat modular for the ease of modifying it to the save both the whites, reds and the original one, while also keeping it somewhat doable with the other hair mods

but by all means, my work is not really my property in here, so you can edit it as much as you want

[unkempt hearth]

No, that sounds good! You did amazing work with the portraits, so it'd turn out much better and cohesive from the original artist themselves

[unkempt hearth]

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding this, but you intend to make a long haired version though not necessarily a white version (but potentially made to be easier to edit in the future)? Also, is this not the current PT version?

[buoyant arch]

It's not, no. This one was made a few months ago with lines from when I was still figuring out how to draw in the persona style

[buoyant arch]

And yeah, pretty much. Depending on how I layer things, changing from one to the other can be much easier

[unkempt hearth]

Got it. Looking forward to seeing the next one 👍

[cunning kelp]

@unkempt hearth and @buoyant arch just want to let yall both know how much i appreciate your work with this mod! i love all the portraits we’ve gotten for the mod, so much love goes into them.

[civic crow]

Are there plans to replace Sumire’s conversation cutins

[random hinge]

All of this is handled by Sumire overhaul and I don't have plans to change anything more with Sumire

I made the ponytail loungewear. I recolored the ribbon to fit with the pajama. Bedtime ribbon?

Also, it seems like the update of BGME Framework fixed the bug with the negotiation music not stopping if you AOA or back off from the negotiation too rapidly. That's good

[granite wren]

Awwww it's cute

[stuck condor]

thats good, i noticed that a few times when i was playing, but i thought that was just cause of the game itself haha

[rich tree]

holy crap dude you nailed it. its perfect thank you

[topaz sigil]

This is interesting, during the final boss. (3rd Semester spoiler.)

[random hinge]

Yeah, that's not my mod that's doing this. I think DeathChaos mentionned something about that a few months ago, but I can't remember what

[topaz sigil]

Got it. I was sure it wasn't yours. I just found it interesting. I'm guessing something to do with one of the framework things, maybe.

[raw marlin]

Didn’t happen to me on my last playthrough

Idk how tho

[random hinge]

That didn't happen to me either when I playtested it

[topaz sigil]

I did skip the cutscene prior to the fight. That may have something to do with it.

[random hinge]

It may be something along those lines

[topaz sigil]

I'll take another try without skipping and see the results.

[random hinge]

Maybe because of CBT, with the "non-prerendered cutscenes" option

[topaz sigil]

Low-key it kind of made it more epic. Being able to see the full size of ||Adam Kadmon|| was cool.

[rich tree]

invisable floor during the fight kadmon?

yeah I had the same thing my last 2 runs

i also skipped the movie

right before the fight

[topaz sigil]

What did you do leading up to it? Aha!

[rich tree]

no effect on the fight though

[topaz sigil]

Okay, so it's likely skipping the movie/cutscene may have something to do with it.

[rich tree]

i think so

but given it doesnt soft lock or crash the game

and the fight runs fine

i just ignore it

only lasts a min or so its a scripted fight

[hallow panther]

Thats not a glitch they can just do that

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1215985721739972638.webp?size=32

[cold kiln]

@random hinge can you still romance the female members of your party with this mod?

[spare oak]

yes

[random hinge]

Yes, but not Sumire

[rich tree]

ng+ you can even romance makoto before her palace deadline is finished

gotta love carrying over max social stats

i was rank 9 2 days befor the photo leak

[spare oak]

this is lowkey weird as fuck i wont lie

[rich tree]

i know its odd that her social link opens so damn early like she gets kidnapped blackmailed unlocks her persona then finish her palace and calling card and boom hello new gf

[hallow panther]

Makoto fans are

Stramge

[rich tree]

its always been Ann for me

[cold kiln]

(So no dating sumire huh I didn’t even think about that)

[rich tree]

1 to screw over that damn cat and 2 I love her eyes the most

[rich tree]

whats really sad is the number of people who would prefer that option be available....

[cold kiln]

(Well I’ve been seeing a decide in this fandom about Morgana I always thought of the cat as just a good car ironically enough I don’t hate the cat)

[cold kiln]

Dude I didn’t even think about that and yet now I’m curious about what that be like even though I’m not interested in that kinda stuff all because I want to see how the fandom would react

[rich tree]

dude theres always stuff out there

[cold kiln]

This fandom is corrupting me

[rich tree]

all you have to do is look

the internet is a damn scary place

[cold kiln]

Yes it is

[rich tree]

there was stuff before this mod was even a thing

[cold kiln]

Yeah and I’m going to be working on porting this to switch so I guess I would have found out eventually in bug testing

[rich tree]

good luck

[cold kiln]

(Thanks for that)

[jade current]

Well hey as someone who's fav pick in royal is sumire, I think being Kasumi is my consolation prize.

If anything the additional scenes with Ann might sway me that way if not my OG pick of makoto.

[cold kiln]

I’ll just be going with my go to on here futaba

Albeit I also go for that goth doctor I forget her name haven’t played in a while

Albeit I do tend to go for sumire but I didn’t even think of that when I asked about it earlier.

[hallow panther]

Personally i date chihiya most of the time

Its basically like investing in your late game self

that 100k yen stimmy goes insane

and you get 100k for free by just playing royal so there’s no reason to not start her link and invest in yourself a lil

[cold kiln]

@random hinge you fine if I gather some people for the switch port to bug test it

[stuck condor]

hey

i’m not stramge

:(

[hallow panther]

[stuck condor]

mooooom they called me stramge

[hallow panther]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1035911477380526131.png?size=160

Who would you say you like more

Sumi or makoto

[stuck condor]

umm probably makoto but it’s close

biased towards makoto cus she gets more screen time

[cold kiln]

Sumire

I know you where asking Celeste but I couldn’t hold back

[stuck condor]

lol

neither of them hold a candle to chihaya though

[cold kiln]

Never dated chihaya

[stuck condor]

her and her MASSIVE forehead

[hallow panther]

Based

[cold kiln]

Never liked the character in general not just because of her forehead which I’m now realizing is large

[hallow panther]

See when i say makoto fans im referring to those who express fondness for her every chance they get and ignore all character flaws

[hallow panther]

the late game 100k yen stimmy

invest in yourself early game to unlock her

And get it all back late game when you finish her social link

[stuck condor]

people who call her best girl or waifu basically

i HATE those terms

under any and all circumstances

[spare oak]

ong

[hallow panther]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1364576110507200613.webp?size=32

[stuck condor]

they make my stomach churn

[hallow panther]

for sure

these are fucking minors

hello

[stuck condor]

RIGHT

[hallow panther]

yet they will call people out for only futaba

[cold kiln]

Wait chihaya is a minor?

[hallow panther]

mind you sumi is a month younger

[stuck condor]

no

this is abt makoto mainly

[hallow panther]

Honestly i dont know how old she is lmfao

[stuck condor]

she’s the WORST offender

if you’re romancing futaba (and it’s not for the thieves den trophy) you need your hard drive checked

[spare oak]

probably the youngest of all the adult options

if i had to guess

[hallow panther]

im just sick of the double standard because the same people who say that about futaba go back and date sumire and see nothing wrong with it

[cold kiln]

Look I date futaba in game because she’s a good character but I wouldn’t consider her for that crap

[raw marlin]

Wait you get trophies for it?

[stuck condor]

yes

you get a trophy for accepting and rejecting each confession

[hallow panther]

she’s undeniably a really fun character i cant lie

[cold kiln]

Wait there’s thieves den trophy’s

I haven’t played in like 2 years so

[hallow panther]

Unfortunately you HAVE to reject haru for 100% 💔

[stuck condor]

omg i’m just educating everyone today haha

UGHHHH

i love haru

[hallow panther]

dont make me reject haru ever again atlus

[stuck condor]

rejecting her makes me wanna DIE

[hallow panther]

its so awful

[stuck condor]

poor girl

[hallow panther]

Zylvos made the blow a bit softer in rose and violet from what i heard

Not that ill be rejecting her anyway

[stuck condor]

yeah i remember seeing that

another reason i lean more towards makoto is like

in a few ways, and i saw a video about this, makoto is kinda like, either the canon or intended love interest

[cold kiln]

Yeah I got that when playing the first time which made me think that was the case

But canonically it’s been changed to sumire

[spare oak]

and then you got sumire being one of few who actually outright say "i love you"

[hallow panther]

I raise you haru very obviously crushing on you

[stuck condor]

true react

[topaz sigil]

Yeah, Futaba, Haru, and Sumire all fall for Joker and make it clear they like him. The others are more initated by Ren himself at opportune moments.

Personally, while I am a Hifumi stan first and foremost, I most definitely do not have separate save files specifcally for all three of them. Definitely not. You have no proof either.

[hallow panther]

i feel like hifumi’s is one of the smoother transitions into the romance route

“Ive been outed as a fraud why the fuck would you wanna be associated with me”

[stuck condor]

i don’t even remember much about some of these storylines haha

my last full playthru was in 2022

[topaz sigil]

I finished my first playthrough of Rose and Violet. Now to do a New Game+ so I can focus in more on the dialogue to make splices for.

I intend to cover some of the current voiceless dialogue as an end goal in the project.

[stuck condor]

rose & violet is like getting to play the game for the first time again for me and that’s all i’ve EVER wanted

[hallow panther]

I didn’t notice how big of a crush haru had on joker until my latest playthrough

[stuck condor]

oooooh cool

[topaz sigil]

Yeah. Rose and Violet marks my 22nd playthrough.

[stuck condor]

22ND 😭😭😭😭

[topaz sigil]

So it was a very refreshing go.

[stuck condor]

and i thought my 17th was crazy

[spare oak]

sheesh

[stuck condor]

i have #autism 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[cold kiln]

Autism well I’m autistic an I can spot stuff from a mile away as long as it’s not a social situation but considering where reading lines that doesn’t effect me like that

[stuck condor]

too real haha

i’ll participate in a big conversation online but in person? you gotta miss me with that

[topaz sigil]

Yup.

One file for no romance (Safe). 1
One file for each romance (Easy). 11
One file for harem (Easy). 12
One file for standard end (Normal). 13
One file for 3rd Semester Ending 1 (Hard). 14
One file for 3rd Semester Ending 2 (Hard). 15
One file for Arsene only challenge (Merciless). 16
One file for Pixie only challenge (Merciless). 17
One file for Act Freely challenge (Merciless). 18
One file for 100% Persona Registry (Safe). 19
One file for Solo Joker challenge (Merciless). 20
One file for Support/Healing skills only challenge (Hard). 21

[stuck condor]

jesus christ 😭😭

[spare oak]

😵‍💫

[stuck condor]

you like one of those youtubers or is this just for the love of the game?

[topaz sigil]

I finished Rose and Violet today, marking 22. I just really like Persona 5, since the Persona battle systems intrigue my brain.

Now, this was a Safe playthrough for Rose and Violet, so my next goes will be for the other endings (to see the changes), as well as maybe do some of the challenge runs again to gather notes on dialogue I can splice audio for.

I'll likely also stress test things for bugs since it is a beta, even if largely complete.

(I just like Persona games, okay? XD)

[stuck condor]

that’s very commendable haha

[topaz sigil]

I'm not a YouTuber. (Yet.)

I'm too boring to get an audience.

[stuck condor]

key word yet

ahhh don’t be too harsh on yourself

[topaz sigil]

So I stick to streaming in Discord voice chats.

[cold kiln]

I’m a streamer been meaning to stream some of my smash tournament matches.

[topaz sigil]

Which I may stream my next few runs in the VC here.

Just for fun.

[cold kiln]

Heck I’m only in tier 3 tournaments but I’ve been practicing

[stuck condor]

i’d like to do some kind of content creation in the future, i’m just not too good at doing it myself. gotta have someone to bounce off of

like the game grumps

[stuck condor]

oh yeah? that’s cool, i love smash but i haven’t been able to play it

my switch got bricked a few months back

[stuck condor]

i will be there (maybe)

[cold kiln]

Yeah I’m having a problem with the virtual cards though which I’ve been trying to fix for months

[topaz sigil]

That said, combing through Navigator dialogue is difficult on my ears. I'll likely have the lines stuck in my head for a few months.

Oracle is chatty, Mona is cocky, and Crow is...Crow.

[cold kiln]

I try to download it on my regular switch not my switch lite but it always has an error at the end which prevents me from downloading on my switch and I turn prevents me from streaming

[stuck condor]

“they’re all knocked down! incredible joker”

HRRGESGGFRBEBSGDGGDVRBDSHD

[stuck condor]

well that’s no fun……..

i have faith in you

[topaz sigil]

(And if Mona insults Skull one more time...!)

[stuck condor]

right !

skull is top 3 characters imo

he’s so silly

https://tenor.com/view/persona5-persona-persona5dancing-dancing-dance-gif-21856158

[topaz sigil]

Honestly, he's also in my top 3.

His development is actually incredible, and he's probably one of the kindest and most forgiving of the group.

[stuck condor]

can’t say i’ve ever used him through the whole game, but i’ll probably be doing so this time

i think i’ll end up using ryuji makoto and sumire

coincidentally my 3 favorite thieves

[topaz sigil]

He's also the best tank (the Captain Badge from Big Bang Burger can easily put a late-game Ryuji to the HP cap).

[stuck condor]

noted noted

[topaz sigil]

That said (hot take incoming), Mishima is also one of my top 5.

[stuck condor]

understandable. i personally can’t STAND him but i get it

but also his confidant is ESSENTIAL

[topaz sigil]

Mishima's growth is outstanding. Esepcially because he quickly becomes unlikeable.

[magic magnet]

So nice to see more ryuji love (my favorite bro character)

[topaz sigil]

But the turnaround once he "gets it" is amazing.

I think I also resonate with Mishima a bit, mostly because I too have always been someone who fades into the background and either got ignored or picked on.

[cold kiln]

So in this mod can you date any of the males now?

[spare oak]

not yet

[topaz sigil]

No. Zylvos said he'd be doing that a long time in the future.

[stuck condor]

whis, get this person a true

[topaz sigil]

For now, no male romances.

[stuck condor]

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-get-this-person-a-ture-gif-17469408006595620981

we don’t assume genders around here