(P5R PC) Rose & Violet - Story overhaul

[radiant plume]

your screenshot says hf2

[rich tree]

ok

time to update

and good timing since I just finished my first run

ill have the update for my next

[lapis tartan]

i have long hair ann, becky, and the classic shujin outfits mods

[pure inlet]

yeah apparently as long as it's bustup edit it works

although i wonder if it wouldn't be realistically possible to just "edit' morgana bustup instead of replacing it

hmm

i should learn how to mod...

[random hinge]

Well, I see two issues with this

• The Morgana bustups are also used in the metaverse, so you'll be replacing those as well.
• The bustups have set positions for the eyes and the mouth to allow movement. I don't what decides it, but I'm pretty sure the "cat" Morgana doesn't have the same eye and mouth position as the "metaverse" Morgana

So I think that's why they went with dialogue edits

[pure inlet]

Oh, okay

I think the set positions might be what kills it

If you could just “edit” it by erasing the og sprite and pasting the cat one while making some edits with the eye blinking and mouth opening that’d be possible

But if the positions are set

Yyyyeaaaaah

Btw, thank you for this mod! It’s been nothing short of great thus far

[vast hamlet]

found a typo ! this is if you work at rafflesia again after doing the mementos target you get from working there

[dull pulsar]

wait
how is treatment wrong?

iirc
it is spelled treatment and not treatement

[left knoll]

oh, it is

i guess i was just sleepy and my brain wasn't working i was up for a whole day

[dull pulsar]

oof

hmm
one get the VIP
vs
one gets the VIP

i probably have to check

[spare oak]

?

[dull pulsar]

idk if get or gets is the correct sentence
so have to check if it's an actual typo or not

yeah
it's suppose to be gets

[spare oak]

definitely gets

[dull pulsar]

yeah

i was a bit sceptical of that specific sentence mainly cause hazel say treatment is a typo
so i have to recheck that whole sentence

[heady cedar]

Yo I’m currently stuck at the fusion tutorial, it looks like none of the persona models are loading which is causing me to softlock

[random hinge]

Added, thanks!

[random hinge]

No worries, I usually double check before correcting the typos

[random hinge]

It could be something else, but make sure "PSZ models" is enabled in Custom Bonus Tweaks (in Configure)

[oak plinth]

which version of kasumi as protag is the right one because i can't happen to find one i can configure?

[random hinge]

Use the pre-release build, not the one on Gamebanana

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[oak plinth]

awesome thank you!

[random hinge]

You only need to download the main mod for Rose & Violet. The addon are additional costumes and the long hair variant is just a model variant for Wisteria's mod. You have the equivalent in my drive

[tribal otter]

Are the Phantom Thieves supposed to call the protagonist "Violet" during the intro sequence or did i mess something up?

[random hinge]

Nope, audio should still say Joker

[tribal otter]

I meant the text, it said Violet

I'm not sure if it's supposed to say Violet or Rose, i haven't gotten that far

[random hinge]

Oh. It should be "Nice work as always, Rose"

What's your load order?

[tribal otter]

Idk why there's 2 Sumire overhauls

I did try to follow the tutorial

[radiant plume]

lower mods are higher priority, just so you know <3

[tribal otter]

It's what it looks like on the PDF, though

[random hinge]

Do you have other mods below that?

Can you screenshot them as well?

I dont see any issues with the load order you posted

[radiant plume]

custom bonus tweaks is outdated

latest is 2.5.3

[random hinge]

Yeah, but it shouldn't cause the code name to become Violet

[radiant plume]

[radiant plume]

cat morgana might be doing it cuz that also edits text (in order to change bustups)

[tribal otter]

Ohh

[random hinge]

Cat morgana is not compatible. Disable Unreal essentials and Inaba exe patcher

[radiant plume]

why do so many people turn on unreal essentials for p5 😭

[random hinge]

Probably a leftover of P3R modding I'd say 👀

[radiant plume]

it's a universal mod and i don't think it matters if it's on anymore since i think a check was put in place to auto-disable it if it's any non-ue game

[oak plinth]

i have no idea what I'm doing wrong but I'm not able to boot it even if the game can boot the mods won't work

[radiant plume]

cbt is borked

[tribal otter]

Sorry for the hassle, thank you for the help

[oak plinth]

any easy fix or no?

[random hinge]

Do you have a mod in your load order called "No fadeout table" or something like that?

[oak plinth]

no i don't

[radiant plume]

drag and drop this onto r2

[random hinge]

Yeah, it's a new dependency for CBT, but the auto download doesn't always work

Install and enable what Rin sent. Position in the load order doesn't matter

[oak plinth]

awsome thank y'all again means a lot

[radiant plume]

no problem :3

[cobalt notch]

Gonna need to get this huh?

Also, loving the mod so far.

[humble trail]

hey i just updated reloaded 2 ryo framework and now the JP voice patch is not working

anyone got this issue

[cosmic yarrow]

I use the english voice patch and it isnt working aswell after the update, so its not just you

[random hinge]

Well if it's a Ryo Framework issue, I can't do anything about it

[humble trail]

i dont rmb what i jsut updated.....

[cosmic yarrow]

oh, didnt want to deliver the message like it's your fault!

[random hinge]

No worries. It seems like Ryo was indeed updated 1h ago

And if the issue is with the audio, it could definitely be this update

[humble trail]

damn it can i revert the update

[random hinge]

https://github.com/RyoTune/Ryo/releases

[humble trail]

the animation got messed up as well as during saving kasumi phone animation broke

[random hinge]

You can download and install an old version from here

[humble trail]

i installed 2 updates i forgot the second one...

[random hinge]

Well, i'll only be able to check when I get home

[humble trail]

yo azathoth you rmb what is the second mod that got updated?

[random hinge]

@rancid falcon It seems like there's an issue with the audio mod with the last update of Ryo. Maybe something has changed with folder structure?

[cosmic yarrow]

sadly not, i was 2 hasty and just clicked update

[cosmic yarrow]

gonna try to put the old version in and gonna look if that's a possible solution for now

[rancid falcon]

Oh? I'll have to have a look.

I haven't changed anything for a while.

[random hinge]

Ryo changelog mentions a library update

[humble trail]

crap reverting it gave me an error

[rancid falcon]

Huh okay. I don't have the faintest idea how that works but I'll have a look.

[humble trail]

you cant check update history right? i cant tell what is the other mod i updated beside ryoframework, cannot revert back to older ryoframe without breaking the other mods.

[random hinge]

Yeah, me neither. Maybe we should ask Ryo directly

[random hinge]

I don't know :/ it could be the other mod that was updated

[humble trail]

yeah...

the other mod being updated along with ryo messed the game up

[rancid falcon]

Just checking, are there any other audio mods that broke with the new ryo update?

[humble trail]

both JP and Eng broke

[random hinge]

The P5R FemaleAudio could be broken too. It also uses Ryo

[humble trail]

zylvos which mod handles the phone saving animation? the phone now just freeze in mid air when saving

[random hinge]

Animations are in Wisteria's mod

I think it also uses Ryo, now that I think about it

[humble trail]

hey i rmb what other mod got updated it is the shared scan mod along with ryo framework

[humble trail]

here is that saving bug where phone just float there when prviously there is pocket animation

[zealous sapphire]

Ryo 2.93 released a few minutes ago and it fixes the Audio Issues.

[humble trail]

yup

[magic magnet]

am I the only one having audio issues like whenever I tend to save it joker voice?

[oak plinth]

so my cbt is still not working after i installed the event fadeout

[hollow owl]

I don't mean to beat a dead horse if it has been said before, but is Kasumi's other art stuff like her AOA portrait and her battle portrait going to change to help differentiate between her and her sister? Maybe even changing Rose and Violet's Showtime?

[lapis tartan]

Not at present

[hollow owl]

gotcha, thank you

[random hinge]

Update Ryo Frameworks to 2.9.3. Restart Reloaded if you have to to prompt the update

[humble trail]

for akechi from rank 3- 4 i need do 2 hangout with him? when i ranked him up to 3 i have matching persona and picked all right option though....

[humble trail]

this is not because of a time gate right

i am still in 9/7 (July)

[spare oak]

this just sounds like persona

[left knoll]

akechi's confidant is time gated but it shouldn't influence how many points you need to rank him up

[random hinge]

I've tested version 2.9.3 of Ryo Frameworks. No issues with the sound mods on my end, so make sure you update it if you're still in version 2.9.2

[random hinge]

I can't seem to be able reproduce this issue. The phone always disappears for me

[humble trail]

Nvm I fixed it

[random hinge]

I don't think it's related to Ryo anyway

[humble trail]

Btw zylvos do every confidant in your play through require 2 hangouts for 1 particular rank?

I always get this won't deepen just yet msg even though I have been using matching Persona and pick right option but some rank up event just won't happen with 1 hangout

[random hinge]

I haven't touched anything related to confidant points and requirements, so I suppose everything's normal (unless you have another mod that's messing with that, but I doubt that)

[humble trail]

Nope

But do you have this in your play through

[random hinge]

I don't remember

Unlocking Kawakami early and with Chihaya fortune reading, I manage to max out everyone around early december

Chihaya is very helpful getting the few points missing to get to the next rank

That, and the Phantom Thief card you can buy in shops in September. You can mail them to confidants to get 1 point

But this looks like normal gameplay to me

[random hinge]

Hum. It seems to be CBT, but I don't understand what's causing this... Maybe try reinstalling CBT? If that doesn't work, you should make a thread here. Maybe someone will see what the problem is right away
https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1045463162452987924

[oak plinth]

okay thanks again

[oak plinth]

i can't find the alternate model test build can anyone send the file

[random hinge]

It's in the drive, in the "Model mods" folder
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Pick the you want (Ponytail or long hair variant)

[red panther]

Zylvos, it's been amazing to play the mod. I feel like your Kasumi narrative fits like a glove and makes the gameplay feel so natural! It's like this is the official Royal, hehe. Thank you so much for your hard work!

[jade current]

Greetings guys! After quite a few hours I got the mods for Rose and Violet installed on reloaded 2. After seeing a hefty discount from the summer sale and knowing this mod existed even in beta form I knew I had to give it a go. Relive the glory days of first getting into P5 with a new perspective of kasumi as the protag. So aside from expected jank like pre-rendered cutscenes being joker, voice lines refering to kasumi as joker (but text says rose so we good), and hand related stuff not lining up, the mod is running smoothly and I got to my first save before being on the train first time. Seeing things happen to Kasumi is quite a shock but makes me wanna see more!

Also Kasumi does have the brown hair, white mask AND is in normal outfit outside the metaverse so I know I did it properly! Makes me glad I took the time to make sure it was done well

[humble trail]

So there is a visual bug that when Kasumi does crossword puzzle, after completion her model will just shift backwards on the seat. This is Because of Wisteria mod right?

[languid depot]

Not sure if this was spotted yet but there's an N missing in "technology"

[random hinge]

I think this is a typo in the base game because I don't remember editing that line, but I'll fix it anyway. Thanks!

[random hinge]

Yeah, there's a slight shift because the animations don't line up perfectly. Sometimes, that's the best you can do

[random hinge]

Glad you like it!
For pre-rendered cutscene : most (if not all of them) can be rendered with the 3D models if you enable the option in Custom Bonus Tweaks. I highly recommend it, since Wisteria adjusted the animations for them (to be less stiff)

Animated cutscenes will stay as they are, however

[radiant plume]

be advised that your pc needs to be quite beefy to render scenes in real time

[jade current]

Hmmm, I think I'll not worry bout it much cause it's mainly the animated scenes that are like that looking back. Kasumi loads as normal otherwise.

[tawny beacon]

I love the mod but I can't seem to get the female audio to work. Whenever I add royal female audio and kasumi over joker voice patch the game will no longer launch. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong and don't mind playing without it. Was just curious if anyone had any suggestions. 🙂

[humble trail]

1 quick qn if you ask kawakami to make 4 tools, she will make 2 so how much material will she use? 2 tools worth?

[random hinge]

Check if all those mods are up to date. In particular, you should have:

• Ryo Frameworks (version 2.9.3 is the latest)
• Kasumi Over Joker Voice Patch (Version 3.0.8 is the latest)
• Royal FemaleAudio (Version 1.2.9 is the latest)

If this the Sataneal cutscene, there's an issue with the event file in CBT. DeathChaos made this post with a fix:
https://gamebanana.com/posts/12666577

I would prefer it if they updated the mod. People will surely come to me to report the issue until it is fixed

[rich tree]

I had no issues with the Sataneal pre render in my last run and I wasn't aware of a fixed file for it. Game ran just fine and no issues at all with that fight.

[unkempt hearth]

Hey all! Loving the mod so far. Had a few questions though if that's all good

In this edited line, the original Royal audio can still be heard "I was wondering what unruly kid would show up, but you're the one." Was wondering if edited lines are suppose to be silent or if I have a mod conflict happening, since it kinda messes up immersion

And is there a way to edit the (amazing) White outfit so it swaps sword models instead of permanently having the golden one? Like the sword in the second pic for normal outfits? (Answer: it's as simple as deleting the weapon gmd file)

[random hinge]

Hi there! Glad you like it!
For the voicelines : I muted the more "edited" lines, but I've kept those who are roughly saying the same thing as I don't want to turn the game too silent. I'm trying to trick the reader brain into hearing the line, but i guess it doesn't (always) work
As for the white outfit : the sword is added along the costume and so it replaces all the swords (I think?). I don't know if it's possible make it replace specific swords. I reused what Wisteria's did here, maybe we should ask them

[hollow owl]

I agree about not making the game too silent

[rapid mural]

Same!

[autumn tusk]

would there be any problems if i were to play this mod with the japanese dub

like glitchs and stuff

[rapid mural]

It always feels so funny when we go from these big scenes with the heavy voices to big scenes with none.

I think Z has been really clever.

Also Obviously Rose and Violet is a drama piece.

But I like how Zylvos punched up some vocal clips in places(there are some audio in the Kamoshida arc that I really appreciate) Its just minor edits but it really makes a difference.

(one scene Zylvos MADE BETTER and it should have always been that way. small clips like "Yah" "kurodasai" "Arigato" really do add to the experience)

TLFR: thank you Z for doing everything.

I love it

[random hinge]

If you want to use japanese audio, use the japanese version of the "Kasumi over Joker voice patch" and don't use P5R FemaleAudio (only works in english)

[autumn tusk]

ok thanks

[unkempt hearth]

That's fair. I basically equate it to having to read sub when I know what the original language is saying and knowing the difference lol

[autumn tusk]

what exactly does thr P5R FemaleAudio do anyway

I'm guess it's the things like grunts and the like

[unkempt hearth]

Changes all male audio pronouns in the story into female pronouns using splicing

[autumn tusk]

oh

that's neat

fuck now I'm not so sure i want to use the japanese dub now

[unkempt hearth]

https://youtu.be/m3TSNmtXytA?si=WF7juVbyMmChzhdH You can see here if it's worth it maybe

[rapid mural]

If you EVER use English audio its a must. Especially since some people like Sojiro have pretty harsh voices if yer Kasumi and the gender is wrong.

I eventually want to do a English playthrough I think and its pretty good.

[left knoll]

question is negotiation cheat sheet compatible with rose and violet?

no problem if it isn't i'm just tired of alt tabbing to see the doc lol

[random hinge]

No, but the changes I made to negotiation dialogues are very light. They're not very interesting anyway, so I'm not bothered if people use it

I don't know if I'll ever make a negotation sheet cheat for R&V

[left knoll]

yeah as long as it doesn't crash the game i don't care much

[queen leaf]

zylvos, you had helped me previously with custom portaits that someone made and i was able to get one of them to work, but not all of them (in a palace and it should be her phantom thief outfit)

maybe the files are incorrectly named? comparing them to the bustups in wisteria's mod folder

[random hinge]

You're wearing a costume that's not the base Phantom Thief one, right? It's normal, it defaults to the base portrait

[queen leaf]

costumes change the portrait? i was unaware 😭 i thought the portrait stayed the same as if i was playing joker

let me try equipping her default costume

solved! thank you! i just hate that i have to unequip my kat outfit to see the custom portrait 😭

[random hinge]

Does it changes the portrait in dialogues as well? I saw it happen in fast travel, but I never tried dialogues

[queen leaf]

let me see

yes equipping the kat costume reverts the portraits in both dialogue and fast travel

[random hinge]

Yeah, well I don't if it's possible to change that with Costume Frameworks

[queen leaf]

its no problem! just breaks the immersion a little bit if you're using a costume frameworks costume

thanks for the help!!

now do i want the portraits to work or do i want to use the kat costume, choices choices

[vivid talon]

So uhh im not sure what has gone wrong here, i'll attach my mod list in case something is causing it and anyone can help

am i the big dumb and missing a mod i might need or might i have installed the wrong version of the mods i dunno

Ikr, it was not like this until i changed version of the KasumiProtag mod from the 0.2 version from Gamebanana to the pre-release version

[random hinge]

Make sure you've set "Slot_1" to Joker in Costume Frameworks

Also

You're using the wrong Alternate model mod. Delete the one you have and download the one that's in the drive folder where you found Rose & Violet

[vivid talon]

ah ight thanks

[random hinge]

Lastly, delete "Custom Bonus Tweaks (Kasumi Compatiblity Patch)

[normal pulsar]

Out of curiosity, are there any plans to add Kotone's outfit from p5x aswell ?
Just asking since we got her hairstyle as alternative

[random hinge]

And also, if you want the Weapon & Equipment Patch, there's also a Rose & Violet version in the drive

[random hinge]

Not for now at least

[vivid talon]

thanks for your help, apreciate it

[random hinge]

If I add more costumes, I may have to make a separate addon like Wisteria to reduce the volume of the model mod

[normal pulsar]

Understandable, I was just curious since I started to play p5x on glabal launch and saw her hairstyle

[vivid talon]

Great Mod btw, i just saw it pop up in my reddit feed and i found it intersting and ive been having fun so far

[normal pulsar]

Her weapon models could be also something to add if they havent been already now that I think about it

[random hinge]

It's actually MyTamagos that proposed using that hairstyle. It gave us quite a bit of trouble (and it still does, because it's floating a bit). You kinda have to adjust the bones, the physics chunks and the animations to make it work... basically redoing Wisteria's mod, but with the long hair

It works well enough for now

[random hinge]

Yeah, I've seen the reddit posts, ahah

Good to see people like it and want to try modding their game

[vivid talon]

Yeah ive been playing P5R modded for a long while but i always happy to find new reasons to replay the game

[random hinge]

I'm a bit bothered by how difficult it seems to get everything to work. I hope the release on Gamebanana will make things more smooth

[vivid talon]

Yeah, it probobly makes it a bit harder for many to have to also dig into here to find the mod, but right now i get its for the best, something that will come with a hopeful gamebanana release is being able to link to ALL of the needed parts and such

as someone who has been a part and talked to a couple of mod devs i know how hard it can be to mod things sometimes and get everything working as you want

Btw this help you gave me has already improved the mod it was good before but now it feels far better, im glad i didnt make it further then after madarame before getting a fix, I should be happy the Bathouse scene broke ig

[random hinge]

At least, when everything is on Gamebanana, people will be using the latest version of each mod. This should make things easier with the dependency

[normal pulsar]

Could we pin the latest version ? O:

[random hinge]

I would need a moderator to do it

But that's fine, I should be able to release a new update soon

[normal pulsar]

Oh, thought you could do it yourself since you made it

[random hinge]

Yeah, only moderators can

Then again, since I'm updating the files in the drive, the drive link is always the same

So if I get the drive link pinned, I'll just need to warn people that's the mod has been updated

Well, I don't think the release is too far off now

Beta is going well, just fixing typos and only one softlock

[vivid talon]

Keep building Peak

[red panther]

who's the mod? so we can @ them 👀

[granite wren]

We should probably save the ping for the new version if it's close...

I can't wait to see the new event

[vivid talon]

what is the new event anyway i havent fully kept up

if its possible to give a spoiler free hint

just in case i might want to wait for it to finish the game depending on WHEN it is

[unkempt hearth]

It's Hawaii ❤️

[vivid talon]

Ah ight, then i might Hold on for a bit to reach that part, im only on kaneshiro so i got all of futaba to go through first

[hollow owl]

Hey so I had a tiny idea

Since briar takes Raouls powers, and phantom show fits briar since she’s sleeping beauty , maybe renaming phantom show to something like sleepy beauty

[rich tree]

@random hinge is the hawaii update in the current release I may have to slow my roll on my new run

[languid depot]

Nah, my Sumi still crashed on the couch.

I almost prefer keeping it that way but ah well. Either way this mod has been a 🎶 BLAAAST🎶

[red panther]

omgggg i just finished hawaii 😤😤 i hate myself lmaooo

[lapis tartan]

not in this one

zyl says coming in the next or the one after

[rich tree]

given im in the first month of the game I will just take my time

[dull pulsar]

??

[tidal glacier]

She’s saying she finished Hawaii already and most likely doesn’t have a save near it to wait to see the update when it drops

[dull pulsar]

oh

oof

[random hinge]

Yeah, I've reworked the Hawaii trip for the next update. I'm still working on it though. You can make a save before the trip and come back to it after the update to see the difference

[random hinge]

You can use the mod menu to move your day to the start of the Hawaii trip, or you can use someone's else save

[vivid talon]

Speaking of the mod menu, ive been looking for one that doesnt screw with progression, ive tried one a while back that just made it impoossible to do Confidants, so i started using the Zmenu, the Zmenu obviously broke when the update came out and the creator stopped updating them

so anyone gota good link to the current mod menu that will work without messing too much

[radiant plume]

all mod meus currently out will break stuff unfortunately

they're just not made with casual users in mind

[vivid talon]

im aware that they are unstable and doing things that arent intended migh beak stuff but last time i tried using it, it wouldnt let me progress confidants period without doing anything, is the latest version the 1.9 that can be found on github ill at least try it out

[unkempt hearth]

It's the long hair variant from the alternate model file provided (It's Kotone's hair from p5x)

Looks absolutely amazing tbh

[random hinge]

Are you sure you're using the HF2 version of the alternate models mod?

Also, make sure you've deleted the previous version (HF1 or lower)

Yeah, updating mods while the game's running doesn't work

[random hinge]

I think they're talking about ||their Dad|| here, based on what they were talking about before

[rich tree]

keep playing the story explains itself dont worry

[red panther]

nice! thanks, I'll be doing that when it's release time

[rapid mural]

heard there was a Sumin in p5x...

Yoshizawa: "Oh Wonder you know a Sumi too? Maybe I could teach them some gymnastics or go shopping?"

Wonder: ....

Suave faded man in hat: Oh hey Wonder. Ever had Bombay Sapphire?

Yoshizawa: Hello?

Faded man holding bottle at 10:00am : Oh sorry.. Didn't see you there, been drinking since 2am. Name is Sumi.

Yoshizawa: Oh. I am... Kasumi Yoshizawa.

Wonder: .....
Sumi: Interesing name.

Kasumi: Drinking since 2am? Oh I seem to be late for training and breakfast.

Wonder: ......

(with apologies to whoever)

[vale jungle]

Is there a way to use Arsené instead of the new persona?

[random hinge]

The Arsène replacement is handled by Rose & Violet, not Kasumi as protagonist. Even if you deleted the model, the Persona would still be called Anastasie in game and the dialogues will still reflect that. Sorry, can't do

[vale jungle]

Thanks. I was mostly looking for using the Arsené model since he is my favourite of the initial Personas, so the name change doesn't bother me

[random hinge]

In that case, delete the following folders:
p5rpc.kasumi.roseandviolet_beta_HF3\Characters\Joker\1\MODEL\CHARACTER\5901
p5rpc.kasumi.roseandviolet_beta_HF3\Characters\Joker\1\MODEL\CHARACTER\PERSONA\0200
p5rpc.kasumi.roseandviolet_beta_HF3\Characters\Joker\1\MODEL\CHARACTER\PERSONA\0201
And delete the two files that are in this folder (if you want to keep Briar, who is Raoul replacement) : p5rpc.kasumi.roseandviolet_beta_HF3\Characters\Joker\1\MODEL\CHARACTER\PERSONA
The files are:
BEM0490_000.GAP
BEM0490_500.GAP

I think this is enough, but you may get some weird stuff if I'm wrong

If you don't want Briar as well, delete
p5rpc.kasumi.roseandviolet_beta_HF3\Characters\Joker\1\MODEL\CHARACTER\PERSONA\0363

(Basically, the entire Persona folder)

[humble trail]

does summoning during fusion alarm incrase risk of an accident?

[static ermine]

Yes

You're 100% gonna have a fusion accident using fusion twice in a alarm.

[humble trail]

if i summon two times will i also get an guarantee accident

[spare oak]

thats what they said

[humble trail]

thanks

[rich tree]

fusion accidents are fun

I have made a few very creative personas doing that on purpose

i made a all repel yoshi once

and a lucifer of all things

[unkempt hearth]

Here's my edit for @lethal geode 's long hair model, for those who love running the white outfit

It kinda makes the twin's portraits slightly more distinct as well

Masked vers for fun

Normal:

Masked:

[lapis tartan]

Nice

I hope these are included in the next update

[rich tree]

I run pony tail now as I am finding it more enjoyable but these are incredible good job

and I think the pony tail works better with the white leotard I noticed less clipping but then I blame atllus and how they handle long hair

because I have the some minor grip with long hair ann clipping

[lapis tartan]

Ponytail works better, but I still like the long hair more, at least for it's front parts and the ui.

[dull pulsar]

probably cause when they designing the phantom thief
they never design the animation with long untied hair in mind
me looking at ann's twin tail and violet's ponytail

[rich tree]

and I honestly adore ann with her hair down

[dull pulsar]

same

[rich tree]

and I prefer haru with the pony tail

from the dancing game

it looks so damn cute on her

[dull pulsar]

wait
haru have a pony tail mod?!?!?

[rich tree]

YES

go on reloaded and get it

[dull pulsar]

GIB

[rich tree]

omg yes

go on reloaded and type haru pony tail

i also run makoto with glasses

and bed head becky

[dull pulsar]

not on game banana?

[rich tree]

you can find mods on the reloaded launcher

[dull pulsar]

idk how tbh

[rich tree]

click that

goto all sources

set for persona 5

in search bar type haru pony tail

[dull pulsar]

oh
nice

[rich tree]

or rather pony tail haru

my bad

[dull pulsar]

hmm
I wonder if the mod work with the outfit from mytamagos

[rich tree]

that i dont know

i know its fully working with rose and violet

i dont run out fit mods

[dull pulsar]

isnt mytamagos outfit literally come from kasumi as protag?

[rich tree]

i run a few mods that change other character pony tail haru long hair ann makoto glasses and bed head becky

but they also dont modify diologue so there koser to run

if thats the case then your fine

[dull pulsar]

nice
gonna do that tonight

[rich tree]

i would show you haru but im in a new run

and only in the 2nd month unless i can find her in school lol

[spare oak]

you can kinda during kamoshida arc she is talking to some teacher

[rich tree]

i badly need a mod that deletes mishima from the game

like entirely

id rather be in a room with teddy....

[dull pulsar]

yeah
haru and makoto is around the school
somewhere

[dull pulsar]

wont that break moon confidant?

[rich tree]

im in like +8 ng+

I can man handle the reaper early game if i need exp

i have enough broken persona

[dull pulsar]

be funny
reaper in palace 1

[rich tree]

i know he has a place in the story but he just rubs me the wrong way

more so now with how he is with kasumi im super protective of her now

[dull pulsar]

I honestly wanna try to make a scripted battle

but that sound like a massive pain

[dull pulsar]

protecc kasumi
at all cost

[rich tree]

it brings out the dad in you

i swear

like nothing hurts her seriously

[dull pulsar]

proceed to make a null all persona so that kasumi wont take DMG

[rich tree]

she runs

yeah i dont let her get hit very often

[dull pulsar]

nice

she cant get hit unless it's almighty anyway

oh wait
physical

[rich tree]

yeah

i have 3 reflect

phys

and 2 with both physcial and gun

so yeah

I can make her down right bullet proof

[dull pulsar]

proceed to get hit by megidolaon

[rich tree]

does 67 damage

i laugh

unless im on mericless

where it maybe hits above 250 depending on where i am

[dull pulsar]

lavenza megidolaon

[rich tree]

ah right

shes a pain

i rarely bother fighting her now

ive done it enough to get the orbs i need

for my 4 main

which upto 3rd is all the girls then I swap one out for her sister

I may run ryuiji once and awhile when I need a brute

[dull pulsar]

we really need a different AoA portrait for rose

[rich tree]

i would imagine those are hard to do

but I have no idea

[dull pulsar]

I mean
they did change joker's AoA portrait for rose
so I imagine it roughly the same

[rich tree]

true

[rich tree]

I feel like makoto stalking haru

she appears to be hiding

im on 5/10

[dull pulsar]

that's
concerning

[rich tree]

not the best shot

but shes out front at her garden

it doesnt show the length very well

[dull pulsar]

good enough

[rich tree]

she also gets a really adorable chat icon

in the text chat

[dull pulsar]

oh

[magic magnet]

I love the makoto with glasses

[queen leaf]

dont know if anyone caught this typo or not yet, it should be "your" number, im using the most recent build but im not sure if someone caught this already

[random hinge]

Thank you, it looks very good! It should an easy addition to the costume thanks to Custome Frameworks. Would you be interested in making the same portrait for the ponytail? That way, I can add it to both variants

[random hinge]

I don't think someone has reported that one yet. Thanks! I'll fix it in the next update

[dull pulsar]

oh
a new white outfit?

[queen leaf]

found another one, again unsure if its been reported or not

should be competitions, plural

[random hinge]

Added, thanks!

[unkempt hearth]

Sure thing! I can give it a go

Also, do you know where these portraits are located in the mod (that's causing the white outfit to not have the masked bustup), as well as the aoa art?

[sullen lava]

How complete is this mod? I was going to download the story overhaul mod but then I saw this. That mod was pretty much done so is this just all of that mod and more?

[spare oak]

very complete

[sullen lava]

Okay perfect, are there any game breaking bugs or can I do a run through without any huge hiccups?

[spare oak]

not that i have experienced

if your mod list is basically vanilla you should be fine

as long as you follow instructions listed here and in the kasumi protag post

[sullen lava]

I’ve never used mods before. I made it to sae’s palace and stopped playing but I want to start a new run that’s basically vanilla for gameplay mechanics but with Kasumi as the MC

[spare oak]

then you should be fine as long as you stick to the required mods list

[random hinge]

The Costume Framework page doesn't say if it's possible to add a custom dialogue portrait for a costume.
If you want to give it a try anyway, they are in Characters\Joker\1\FONT\SELECT
As for the AOA finisher : it's possible to replace it with Costume Frameworks, but there's catch : it's a mesh, not a 2D art. It's also a pain to edit. I've barely been able to change the colors in the current version, and you might need to edit the mesh to recolor it like you want. Also, you have to follow a specific procedure to export it, otherwise it will break.
Are you sure you want to give it a try?
(for the record, I've decided to keep it as it is and not add the heart-shaped leotard because I don't think I'm good enough with Blender to do it)

[unkempt hearth]

That's unfortunate. I'll refrain for now, since I have a distinct lack of experience on blender. However, if there's a preexisting tutorial or conversation out there about changing AoA art you know of, please send me a link since I'd love to check it out ( if there isn't, it's all good)

[sullen lava]

Is there a mod manager I should be using?

[lapis tartan]

Reloaded II

[sullen lava]

okay last question I swear, I can't find where to actually download the mod on Gamebanana, is the download somewhere else?

[random hinge]

Here's a beginner guide to modding P5R:
https://gamebanana.com/tuts/15399

And for this mod, the beta is in that drive. Release on Gamebanana will happen later.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cpFZisgX0PqGAvu2LipYZ1fk-YIziilB

[sullen lava]

ty 🙏

[random hinge]

Download the .7z and drag and drop it on Reloaded-II

There are instructions to setting some stuff up in the pdf "Setup-HF3"

[random hinge]

There's this basic importing tutorial if you've never used Blender with the game models. Other than that, I guess this is just regular Blender usage, for which I too am very inexperienced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f8BiGTvCWY

[sullen lava]

is the alternate model mod you made listed under dependancys part of the google drive?

[random hinge]

Yes, in the model folder. You can choose between the ponytail (canon and works better with the animations) or a long hair variant

The long hair is actually Kotone's from P5X, so she doesn't look like Sumire

[hollow owl]

I like how when you question Iida about the drug money , Kasumi giggles

[sullen lava]

am I supposed to be playing as Kasumi in the tutorial? right now its Jokers model

I'm hearing the Kasumi voicelines when I jump

[random hinge]

Have you configured Costume Frameworks? You need assign "Slot_1" to Joker

[sullen lava]

crap he got put in slot 2, mb

thank you

[hollow owl]

Lmao

It happened to me before

[random hinge]

For the voicelines, if you till hear Joker : make sure you've installed "Kasumi over Joker Voice Patch " that's on Gamebanana. Reloaded should set up for you it's dependency (Ryo Framework). You can also pick between english or japanese audio

[rich tree]

i keep hearing joker

despite having kasumi over joker

so i dont know what ive done

[random hinge]

Do you have Ryo Framework?

[rich tree]

thats my current version for ryo

[random hinge]

It's at the bottom of your load order?

[rich tree]

no its near the top

should i put it at the bottom?

[random hinge]

Nah, top should work

[rich tree]

its above all of the rose mods

[random hinge]

You hear Joker when saving and summoning personas, etc?

[rich tree]

well im an idiot i was confused

i thought you were talking about mona saying joker for some reason

im tired

2 hours of sleep

this isnt good

[random hinge]

Ah ah, that's okay

Better that than the alternative

[rich tree]

i doubt anything can change the vocal joker call out

[random hinge]

I thought this was another case of incomplete download tbh

[rich tree]

for rose since mona never says rose

for one

[random hinge]

Yeah, and it's not only Mona

[rich tree]

yeah

[random hinge]

Pretty much everyone says it

[rich tree]

same for why we cant use the day call out

kasumi has no voice lines for the days

can only work with whats available

given how well she fits into the story and world just shows atlus was just plain lazy and not giving us her as a choice in royal

much like removing kotone from 3

[limber juniper]

Reading this chat a bit higher up made me realize, was the new starting persona supposed to be implimented? Because in my game, it was Arsene, except they called them by the new persona's name

[spare oak]

it could be the equipment patch or something

[random hinge]

Arsène is replaced in all the Rose & Violet beta versions I have released

Make sure Costume Frameworks is configured with "Slot_1" for Joker and that you're using Wisteria's test build. That's pretty much the only explanation I have for you not having the replacement

[molten stratus]

With how many of the same problems people have with this mod (no shade to anybody tho 🫶) there should be a video guide/FAQ detailing how to get things just right

[radiant plume]

true, although i feel like zylvos will add a section like that to the mod page on gb when it makes its way there

[red panther]

I understand that using all the mods can be tricky at first, but it’s a very specific issue. From what I see, there are two main problems: deleting the JSON file in the right folder (idk if that's an issue atm) and changing Joker's Costume Framework to slot 1. Once that’s done, the rest is just following the instructions and downloading the listed mods

[radiant plume]

the other issue i see semi-often is outdated persona essentials timeskipping people to failing first palace lol

[red panther]

I believe we can put together a task force to identify the main issues people had when installing the mod and list them out. That might be helpful

[pure inlet]

one question

[radiant plume]

one answer

[pure inlet]

the google drive image guide states that everything on the gameplay segment offfff

kasumi as protagonist iirc

must be turned off, including skillset,which then there's the progressive arsene reccomendation

would the skillset option work as well as progressive arsene or it truly must be off for the anastasie persona to work

[radiant plume]

you can test it out and see if it works together, but i'd say probably use only what it says to

[pure inlet]

true i forgot i could just test it

i'll do just that

sure seems to work

at least the "tempest slash" skill was mudoon before with progressive arsene, besides the affinities also changing

but i can't be sure if it will just bug out of nowhere or not

[rapid mural]

btw Anyone who does start with coding/modding..

It can be long hours but if you find a model or a project you are passionate for; even if it is just for you it is very rewarding.

Write stories, Go into battle with Cellos, Give Ryujii a Tricorne.

Enjoy the dance that is coding

[runic vapor]

Hi all! Just gonna stop by to note a little project of mine others here may like! I am currently working on animating kasumi over joker in cutscenes (no promises that I get too far on it but i will try) and uh yeah

:D

[tropic torrent]

dropped a bomb shell of an announcement there

[runic vapor]

oh ig yeah

idk how far I will get just to clarify

but I think it would be a fun way to contribute to the project as well as to hone my animation skills

I can't promise the best animation cuz im not a professional or anything, just a student :)

[thorn scroll]

WOAH

[runic vapor]

:D

[thorn scroll]

that's sick!!! (positive)

[runic vapor]

always fun when i can lend myself to a project

[runic vapor]

ty!!

not a modder but i can draw moving pictures so uh ill try

[thorn scroll]

if you finish, really looking forward to see what you make, and if you don't, i hope you have fun tinkering with it!

[runic vapor]

ty!!!!!!!

[thorn scroll]

seems like a cool project

[runic vapor]

gonna start messing around w the prologue cutscene first

just need to actually get a high quality version of it bc mine rn is like 360p lmfao

anyone who wants to keep up w it or help out is welcome to follow this :) https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1390559770880245820

[rich tree]

typo

first one i've seen since updating the mod

[radiant plume]

should be "roped", for reference

[dull pulsar]

yeah

[half gust]

Idk if this is the wrong place to ask but how do you disable the outfits battle BGM like Florist outfit battle bgm

[random hinge]

I think this one was reported a few days ago as well. I've fixed it for the next update, thanks!

[random hinge]

Yeah, I feel like I'm going to need to write a more detailed guide for the setup.
Issues with mod versions for my mod and Wisteria's will be fixed after release, since there will only be one place to download the mods.
The bigger problem is everything with the dependencies like Custom Bonus Tweaks, Costume Frameworks, etc. Seems like I'll have to be much more directive with those

[humble trail]

you guys manage to update the custom bonus twek mod? mine is stuck...

[radiant plume]

if it's pre-2.5.3 then you have to manually redownload it from the gb page

[humble trail]

no mine is 2.5.3

download just freeze

[radiant plume]

like one-click or just updating?

it's a pretty big mod so it takes a while for the downloading bar to disappear

[humble trail]

updating

just stuck like this no progress

[radiant plume]

you could always force close r2 and use the 1-click install from gb to update it

[humble trail]

yeah

lemme try

from gb

[lapis summit]

Is it normal that for me Rose and Violet + Kasumi as protagonist combo has Sumire's dialogue portaits and AOA also shows Sumire and not Kasumi? No mole, red hair instead of brown-ish. Minor detail, but seeing screenshots of mod makes me wonder if I did something wrong

Gameplay model is fine

Nevermind, I think I've found the culprit. I set to default and now it's fine

[lapis tartan]

CBT config

[half gust]

Which setting

I turned off the BGM related one and they're still playing

DLC outfits like Yaso and Geko/Kotone outfit battle music is muted (like just no music literally) now

[lapis tartan]

Idk I'm not at my computer rn

There should also be a mod on GB that removes dlc music

[half gust]

I checked and there's none unfortunately

[lapis tartan]

Weird

Pretty sure it's still in my mod folder if it got removed

[half gust]

Send it?🙏

[hollow owl]

I just found a really cute mod on GB that puts a violet flower in sumire's hair

[spare oak]

does it impact overworld sumire?

[hollow owl]

Yeah

it even replaces her other names when joker didn't know her name

"Girl with flower in hair"

or something like that

imagine if just her PT outfit that and Kasumi's PT had a rose

It's a small detail

[spare oak]

that would be cool actually

[hollow owl]

yeah

[hollow owl]

also i looked this up

Apparently Anastasia(Anastasie) means resurrection

or to rise again

[vivid talon]

Ill spoiler mark this because its late game and is a spoiler for the mod and also the main game but i love this art its very cute

i must say all of the custom art and such in this is great, the custom photos and this all of it top tier

[static ermine]

Man i love it two i was surprised to see that even get its own art and i adored it so much

[civic crow]

I’m planning on starting tease this month soon. Does it change any of the cut scenes animated or render?

I saw there is some custom art

[dense moat]

can is still use arsene ? seems the default persona when using this mod is change to cendrelion

[dull pulsar]

I assume there a config to use arsene
try searching in the mod config?

[dense moat]

by default it should be arsene but i keep getting cendrelion

[dull pulsar]

the default is cendrillon
you have to change it back to arsene somewhere in the config

also
check "kasumi as protag" config
as that also have a config to change arsene to cendrillon

if both is set to arsene
then idk anymore

[dense moat]

already set it to default

[red inlet]

Dumb question but were there any plans to use Ella for the Raoul stand-in or was it always going to be Vanadis?

[rancid falcon]

The initial Cendrillon over Arsene patch on GB does have Ella over Raoul (though no Satanael replacement), but it was changed to Vanadis when it got incorporated into the main mod as a toggle.

[random hinge]

Arsène is replaced by Red Cendrillon by default in Rose & Violet

I used Vanadis instead of Ella to replace Raoul because:

• Vanadis was much easier to recolor "nicely" than Ella.
• Sumire deserves her own separate Persona from Kasumi at the point she gets it 😉

[raw marlin]

That makes sense

Kasumi does main curse and gun while Sumire is the exact opposite

[hollow owl]

Sumire has her gracefulness, but Kasumi rocks her boldness

What's really cool is that this mod is getting more traction that people have been using it in their postson the p5 subreddit, it's really awesome

[random hinge]

Rose & Violet Beta 1 - Hotfix 4
The following mods have been updated:

• Long hair variant models mod. New version is "HF3".
• Confidant cheat sheet. New version is "HF4".
• Rose & Violet Story Overhaul. New version is "HF4".

Please, update to the latest version of those mods to make sure the report are accurate. To do so, delete the folder with the previous version and replace it with the new version.

Changelog:

Long Hair variant models mod:

• Added the AOA portraits for both variants of the white Phantom Thief outfit, thanks to Johesy.

Confidant Cheat sheet:

• Typos have been fixed.
• Some dialogues have been edited thanks to Grinchula's proofreading. Thanks!

Rose & Violet Story Overhaul:

• Typos have been fixed.
• Some dialogues have been edited thanks to Grinchula's proofreading. Thanks!
• The Hawaii trip has been overhauled. Kasumi will now room with Ann!
• Restored an unused event at the dinner on 05/14.

Reminder:

• Make sure Custom Bonus Tweaks (version 2.5.2+) and Persona Essentials (version 2.9.2+) are up to date.
• Don't use the alternate models mod on Gamebanana. It is outdated and will not work with Wisteria's latest test build.
• Make sure Wisteria's test build is up to date.

I'll update the ponytail models mod with the white outfit portraits later.

I'll continue to update the mod to fix the typos until release, but I don't think I'll be adding any more stuff. I want to work on the setup to reduce the numbers of issues people will have when installing the mods.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cpFZisgX0PqGAvu2LipYZ1fk-YIziilB?usp=drive_link

[pure inlet]

oooh nice

i was just about to start that part

[pure inlet]

foreshadowing...

eager to see it

[half gust]

Ofc you release Hawaii update after I finish the Hawaii trip 🥲

[lapis tartan]

What's this dinner event?

I don't think I have a save at 5/14 unfortunately

Actually I could probably just use mod menu to take a look

[unkempt hearth]

Dang, I was just about to finish up on the portraits 😭

I'll send over the finished AOA portraits now so that it can hopefully be added. The other AOA portrait had reduced resolution due to improper conversion, so please download the long hair vers again. It also has some additional adjustments (colour, lighting fix)

(Long)

(pony)

[unkempt hearth]

Do you know what file is causing the portrait for the white outfit to be overwritten with the non-masked version, rather than the default black outfit with mask?

[hollow owl]

So, I was looking at swords and found something that’s similar to sumi’s rapier. Kasumi might look good with a side sword

[cunning kelp]

amazing!!

[random hinge]

Thanks! No worries, I can update it again

[random hinge]

Sorry, I don't know. I don't even know if it's possible to replace the dialogue portrait with the custom one you made just for this outfit. The Gamebanana page for Costume Frameworks doesn't say if it's possible:

[kind shell]

That looks amazing! Well done

[unkempt hearth]

Oh I don't intend to make the portait tied to the outfit. I'd like to just overwrite CUTIN_001_000.dds with the white version for my own use

But since the white outfit doesn't actually use that portrait, I was wondering what I can do so that it does

I haven't attempted replacing it yet though, so I might be able to figure it out anyhow 👍

[unkempt hearth]

Thank you!

[random hinge]

Well, the alternative would be to replace CUTIN_001_000.dds with your white version and replace all the Phantom Thief outfit with the white one

The catch is, the Phantom Thief outfit used in cutscenes and certain events is not the same as the one in the Costume folder

They have special materials and different bones so they can work the cutscenes (like making the mask disappear, etc)

[humble trail]

need some advice how to best use jazz club, should i only go there during friday and when there is a singer? it seem friday has best bonus

[spare oak]

sunday with futaba always

3 or so times

[granite wren]

How do you unlock it even
I never did

[spare oak]

akechi

[granite wren]

Ah! Right, that... explains a lot, I just left him on read the whole game

[spare oak]

desevred

[humble trail]

So I go for singer date as well? Or Friday ones? But these takes up a lotta time

[spare oak]

i never rly anything but the sunday skills for futaba

[humble trail]

You mean you did nothing else other than Sunday skill for futaba?

[spare oak]

yea the bonuses didnt appeal to me other than that

[queen leaf]

glad i haven’t gotten to hawaii yet

[hollow owl]

Can’t wait to upgrade the mod

[pure inlet]

same

finished futaba's palace recently so

legit just some hours away from starting the hawaii event before the update dropped

[unkempt hearth]

Dang I like it but can't use it 😭

But yeah all of the costumes added by the mod default to CUTIN_000_000.dds, compared to the base game's costumes & dlc using CUTIN_001_000.dds

Any idea why it does that?

[lapis tartan]

took a look at the lunch event

it's a nice touch

wish the game had more events like that

[random hinge]

It might be worth asking the question around the modding chat or make a modder help thread. I doubt putting CUTIN_001_000.dds in a costume folder is going to work, but I'll give it a try tomorrow. If it's possible, we need to know how to name the file

At the very least, I'll add the AOA portraits you made. Thank you very much for making them!

[unkempt hearth]

Np. Yeah I'm planning on giving them an ask after a few tests. I doubt that's going to work as well lol

[naive stream]

Is something wrong with the equip. patch? It refuses to install no matter what i do

[civic crow]

i cant get it to show in reloaded 2

[naive stream]

ponytail addon same thing, r2 just doesnt acknowledge it

[civic crow]

Yeah, I don’t know what to do. I’m going to the intro and there are two.

[unkempt hearth]

rip

Maybe costume frameworks will update in the far future and it can go out of limbo

[hallow panther]

Wait you guys are giving kasumi her own thief outfit or am i misunderstanding

[unkempt hearth]

There's an outfit within the mod that's pretty popular. I'm also a fan since it seperates Sumi and Kasumi more, so I just treat it as the canonical outfit

I just made some AOA and a SELECT portrait edits for the outfit. But unfortunately it's not possible to tie the select portrait, so we were trying to figure it out

[hallow panther]

ohh ok so you’re trying to make all the portraits and stuff work for it so people can use it with the mod if they wanna that makes sense

[granite wren]

Atlus really does hardcode the weirdest things

[unkempt hearth]

obligatory "why would they do that?"

[granite wren]

I gotta wonder if there's some horrendous bug that loaded the wrong portraits if they didn't do this or it's just like Atlus policy to hardcode everything
Reload has so many ways to hardcode blue into the game it feels like they do it to prevent FeMCs existing

[hallow panther]

Why do they hate her so much :(_ _

[unkempt hearth]

Turns out all Persona games are just sphagetti code

[hallow panther]

actually i feel like more persona 3 fans hate her than people at atlus

[granite wren]

The people at Atlus just want to forget she exists until they can sell anniversary merch

[hallow panther]

Same goes for p1 and 2 unfortunately

[granite wren]

Nah nah they consider P1 and P2 above FeMC
There was a question about future collabs for P5X

P1 and 2 were specifically addressed as possible, P3 Portable was not (cuz the collab they have in CN right now is Reload so no FeMC...)

[hallow panther]

i wish there was a mod for a music changing system like reloads so im not stuck wearing naoya’s wack ass fit just cuz i wanna listen to lone prayer 😭

[hallow panther]

p5x yeah that makes sense cuz money

[granite wren]

Atlus would literally rather acknowledge P1 and P2 than have Kotone appear again

[unkempt hearth]

I actually have a small legitimate hope that femc will actually be possible for p6

[civic crow]

Just put on the Hatsune Miku costume. why is this so well done? A song from pjsekai i think and a cut in portrait

[unkempt hearth]

Because what else would scream "bigger and better". It's the only time I would expect them to even consider it

[granite wren]

I'm scared they'd Danganronpa V3 it

[hallow panther]

Maybe persona 6 was the friends we made along the way

“Bring out more p5 spinoffs the boy’s hungry”

[granite wren]

Persona 6... More 5 Spinoffs

[hallow panther]

Obligatory joker miniboss

[spare oak]

atp all 3 at once

yu joker and makoto boss fight

[granite wren]

There is only one way I accept a Joker boss if they add one to P4 Revival
If the excuse is he ended up in Inaba because he got lost on the Ginza line

[hallow panther]

I hate that they didn’t take rewind

Its RIGHT there

[spare oak]

rewind doesnt rly scream remaster to me

the opposite actually

[granite wren]

I always liked the idea of Retuned

like tuning an old TV to find channels

[hallow panther]

rewatch?

idk

[unkempt hearth]

Feels kinda bad lol. Like you're redoing something you've already done instead of experiencing something new

[hallow panther]

feels like another p5 spinoff

Retuned is probably the best tho i cant lie

[granite wren]

Also seperate but I saw Beta FeMC was doing custom Velvet assistants for their mod
Obviously way out of scope for here (and ngl I've never really liked the beta FeMC design) but it does make me wonder what a Kasumi-specific Velvet assistant would look like, it's a fun thought to think about

Like maybe a fairy godmother or something? And the Velvet room looking like a mix between the attic and prison like how Cinderella was hidden away

[unkempt hearth]

I'm not on that discord. Do they have a concept art for them or something?

[granite wren]

I'm not either but I saw it on Twitter, let me send the link

[unkempt hearth]

Likely a male assistant just for the pattern Kotone set and the fact there's barely any of them

[granite wren]

https://fixupx.com/FeMCRedux/status/1940421667244892375

P5R: Beta FeMC Redux+ (@FeMCRedux)

Here is our announcement on the new redux update. Panned for September/Q3.

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FixupX · Jul 2, 2025, 2:45 PM

[hallow panther]

if its compatible i plan on just giving her merope by using that one mod

[granite wren]

Oh shoot there's a Merope mod? That's cool

[unkempt hearth]

Oh dang

[granite wren]

https://youtu.be/hOzo7fN3y1Y?si=OziwYvm5CxUaEcKP

Make him act like this and I'm sold

[unkempt hearth]

Nanako was planned for p5??

[granite wren]

Yeah there's an adult Nanako in the beta files

[hallow panther]

Laptop for college ❌ laptop for finally being able to mod p5r ✅

[hallow panther]

Oh yeah i remember that

I get why they didn’t end up doing that tho

[granite wren]

Part of me does think that they're gonna hit scope creep trying to add all this stuff

[hallow panther]

the persona games can be played in any order and i think thats the best part

[granite wren]

[hallow panther]

Personally for me it was p3p then p5r then 4

cuz i didn’t have the correct console to play 5 and i was told a switch port wouldn’t happen so i spoiled myself on the entire thing

little did i know

[granite wren]

but it did get me thinking

either way I feel like a fairytale style assistant makes sense if Atlus had done it
Maybe a fairy godmother AND a prince, both want different things for her

[unkempt hearth]

Because it would spoil that ||Nanako isn't the killer||

[granite wren]

||Nah clearly Accomplice is canon and Nanako got away with it||

|| ||

[spare oak]

villain

[hallow panther]

what copy did you play? On mine || she most certainly is ||

Every copy of p4g is personalized

[granite wren]

YOU WANT FUN?
MOROOKA SHOW YOU FUN

[hallow panther]

rest in peace king moron

[pseudo dock]

Most of this stuff that we anounced we have been working on in the background (we wanted to have actual surpises but we found out after we fucked around). Though I would be lying if we didn't have scope creep. Though that is 100% because of Suminomiya. Honestly everything else on there isn't comparable to it. Due to the huge amount of moving parts it requires.

[granite wren]

Yeah that makes sense, I can imagine a whole new area is really hard to plan
it all looks really interesting so far though, Mary and Shelley look iconic from the art alone

[hallow panther]

p3r reveal: stunning cutscene of aigis
P4R reveal: yu narukami hood irony

[granite wren]

Atlus: So you want a P4R reveal? Okay, bet
https://youtu.be/JmFzSc0yj8w?si=S3NPJKYcMw2fhncU&t=11

[hallow panther]

This IS persona 4

“kris he only has one hp.”

[granite wren]

I guess technically ||Magatsu-Inaba|| really IS a Dark World

[pseudo dock]

Suminomiya was a lot easier to work on at the start (you can actually read a lot of it in this server, it's one of the concept threads on here). So I think it kinda led us into this false sense of security. Once the modelling part came in it hit a big wall. Up until I used google earth to block out all of the buildings. Then he whole hiatus and burnout came in. But now that were back into the swing of things (and we FINALLY have more than one generalist which was me). The outlook is far better than I could've thought.

Really glad you like Mary and Shelly, honestly I didn't really expect the positive response we've had to the announcement. I thought people wouldn't like us injecting new characters into this mod.

[magic magnet]

For real?

[unkempt hearth]

Honestly, I had almost no interest in the mod due to the fact we now have 3(!) femc mods for Persona 5, but this announcement is pretty dang hype

[unkempt hearth]

You guys are doing work that's comparable in scope to P3R's femc mod in terms of new additions

[magic magnet]

Just fell to my knees 😭😭

[unkempt hearth]

And honestly that's much needed, since repeating multiple playthroughs for these femc mods takes a toll out of you. With that much new content, hopefully it's feel like a completely different take. Awesome job so far ^^

[granite wren]

I'll definitely go have a look now! That's such a cool idea using Google Earth for the modelling and glad you found someone else to help out

And the idea of career vs marriage for Velvet assistants is such a good one
like, in a way, I kind of like it more than the base twins we have as the Lavenza fusion then becomes more symbolic too, like you don't HAVE to sacrifice one or the other sorta thing, while in the basegame it is just sorta like "oh yeah they were split this is the new one"

Godspeed

[magic magnet]

Agreed

[pseudo dock]

I get the feeling. We all wanted a mod that wasn't just a female protag mod, something bigger than that. Because I just don't see a reason to make another female protagonist mod. Cause it doesn't really add anything that hasn't already been done before. Like all it would boil down to is "do you like chocolate or strawberry". Not saying that the other ones are bad of course. Just that we wanted to diverge from already set standards.

[pseudo dock]

tbh I was kinda stressed out because I just didn't know how to tackle suminomiya's modelling. Until I finally realized I could export the google earth map and then use that as a base to block every single building out. And for the twins, we had always wanted at some point to replace them. But we didn't really have anything to go off of. Then we found these twins in the artbook and ran with them. Cause honestly there's just no real personal story in the twins confidant. Especially the outings, they're just a nothing burger trying to bank on elizabeth's antics.

oh yeah, https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1288464697175314452 this is the thread btw

This is actually the 2nd part to it now that I remember

https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1282489553210576956 this is actually the first part iirc. Learned a whole lot.

[hallow panther]

Im still doing my umpteenth p5r playthrough cuz i bought it on ps4 earlier in the year and ive started accidentally predicting dialogue like when yusuke remarks about futaba’s personality i said “you’re one to talk” and then ryuji chimes in with the same shit

this game is getting to me

[unkempt hearth]

I played through the original P5, and then got P5r when it released. I got to Futaba's Palace before I burnt out. I saw Chlorophylls's femc mod and was massively hyped, giving me a reason to play again. But because they're solo and unable to work on it much, I kept postponing myself hoping for updates, stopping at...Futaba's Palace. I only started this mod because it apparently had changed dialogue for everything, but since there's no male romances yet I might stop at...Futaba's palace.

[hallow panther]

To actually use this thread for the correct purpose for a sec i have a question, will you guys do the deadline bad endings? And all the incorrect choices directly after sae

[unkempt hearth]

But yeah to this day I actually have never done the "new" semester or any of its content yet

[hallow panther]

Futaba’s palace is the turning point in p5r so its kinda unfortunate thats where you stopped but to really get to the good parts of said turning point you gotta make it past the absolute slog that is

Kunikazu okumura

[hallow panther]

Also you had better believe im romancing ryuji immediately apon release

[unkempt hearth]

I literally downloaded a save at Okumura's end just to bypass my burnout and actually see the content. Still had to do the boss for the first time and I think that must be the only time I actually someone struggled

[unkempt hearth]

I actually learned about the state of this mod because Chlorophylls released the Ryuji Romance, but it didn't feel right to play it without Operation Miadwatch, Hawaii, Christmas, etc

[hallow panther]

the start of the okumura arc and the cutscene right after escaping shido’s are my least favorite parts of the game

[unkempt hearth]

If you were asking me, I'm not actually affiliated with the mod really haha. I'm just someone who joined a few days ago and decided to contribute some artwork for the mod

[hallow panther]

why beat up ryuji for almost dying

[hallow panther]

ohh well it was kinda to u kinda to anyone who would know

[unkempt hearth]

You can probably ask Zylvos if it's already done, since apperantly 'everything is finished' regarding the base story at this point

[hallow panther]

ah ok

[hallow panther]

Worth it for whims of fate in the casino

Or so i told myself

[spare oak]

whims of fate overratd

[hallow panther]

I like it but by no means do i think its the best

Out of kindness and gentle madman are my top 2

What order depends on how im feelin

A woman another version is good too

[spare oak]

Out of kindness, gentle madman, ark, price

a woman another version

all bangers

[hallow panther]

sweatshop gets too much hate imo

but the alternate version of sweatshop is the worst theme in p5r

[spare oak]

real

i like run run run tho

[hallow panther]

it does wonders for the end of palaces

real question is i believe or life will change

[spare oak]

both are good

i like i believe more tho

[hallow panther]

real

only thing that pushes it above life will change for me is the stairs

[magic magnet]

I'm super hyped for it! And can't wait to play it and I really love the design of the female protagonist

[pseudo dock]

Glad that you're hyped for it. And yeah we love the design too.

[pure inlet]

Is the white outfit a costume in-game with the mod? 🤔

[spare oak]

ye

[hallow panther]

^

[late lark]

How do I use this look? Is it possible??

[hallow panther]

^

but yeah the costume is pretty sick

[late lark]

How do I switch to it? 🙂

?

[hallow panther]

Personally i dont know the mod you may have to wait for johesy to wake up

[unkempt hearth]

The white outfit is part of the Alternate Models mods (both long and pony), which is a dependency of this mod. So it should be found in your outfits near the bottom of the list, if the mod was installed correctly

[unkempt hearth]

To use the White outfit portrait, you'll have to use this temporary workaround I made for now:

DeathChaos is currently doing their magic and potentially looking into the limitation. If they figure it out, then the portrait will be fully integrated into the mod

[late lark]

In my outfits? Sorry, I haven't played since the mod fully came out so I don't know where you mean.

[pure inlet]

I think they mean in the "outfit" or "costume" option in the equipment tab of the Phantom Thieves

[unkempt hearth]

As in it should be in your costumes section in game, along with the other dlc outfits. You should also see stuff like Robin, Nier, Miku outfits (or whatever else was in there lol)

[pure inlet]

is the portrait for both the ponytail and long hair?

and thank you so much!

[unkempt hearth]

Just long hair for now. I wrote on the Readme file that I'd probably only do the ponytail edit if DeathChaos can fix the limitation for pc 👍

[random hinge]

Even if DeathChaos fixes it, there will be some cutscenes where it's back the black outfit.
Alright, I'll bite. I'll see what I can do to make a Configure Option for the white variant. I'll need to see with Wisteria since I don't have the necessary stuff to add configure options myself

I'll look into it over the next days/weeks. I want to take it a bit slower now, since I'm a bit burnt out from working on this mod (and some events of the Hawaii trip were very difficult to work with)

[thorn scroll]

Take it easy Zylvos

We appreciate you

[random hinge]

As for features that will be added by Beta FeMC:
It looks very cool and I really like the themes they're going for for the Velvet attendants. I can already tell it's going to be a lot of work, but the payoff will be amazing.
As for me, I don't plan to add that kind of stuff. It's too much work for one person only and I don't have the technical knowledge to edit/add everything to the game (Rose & Violet is still my first mod).
I don't consider it a competition with other FeMC mods. It gives people a good reason to try each one, which is a great way to replay the game with something fresh.

I also have a big scope creep. My first draft of the mod didn't include stuff like event editing (so I had to be very creative to justify hanging out with the guys) or new romances (I'll look into it later, it's going to take me quite some time to make it work). I'm already satisfied with how far I've pushed with my mod.

And with much some people struggle setting everything up, I want to focus on making it easier. It's not fun and very tiring to help people fix the same issues over and over. While I think the beta is going great (only one softlock because of me), I need to write better explanations on how to set up the other mods. If people can't play the mod or think it's too much work installing it, it's doesn't matter how good it is.

[amber plinth]

Wanted to say awesome mod. Thanks for your hardwork. I'd like to mention the setup pdf with the modlist and all that helped a bunch to getting everything working so I didn't have any issues setting it up because of that. I do have a question though, will there be a maskless variant of the default black leotard?

[sly lantern]

Found a typo during ||7/9 interrogation room scene ||

||It's supposed to be "I don't want to say." rather than "I dont't want to say."||

-# Added spoilers just incase someone here hasn't reached this point of the game yet

[hallow panther]

Thats such a well done kasumi bustup bro holy smokes

[unkempt hearth]

It's no worries! While it would be cool to have, don't force yourself to do anything. I'll throw your own words back and say "Modding is a hobby, not a job, so I won't think less of you if you want to stop everything". You've already done amazing work as is, so take a long break if you need it

[hallow panther]

only other modding community im in is blade and sorcery and the quest 2/3 players are notorious for harassing modders to port pc mods to quest so im glad this community is just better than that

[unkempt hearth]

Out of curiosity though, what/how many cutscenes are reverted back to the black outfit? Wouldn't P5R Custom Bonus Tweaks 'Cutscene Outfits' negate this to some extent? Is it the Sataneal cutscene I keep hearing about having some problems?

[unkempt hearth]

That's terrible. That's such entitled behavior

[unkempt hearth]

There's this one that's found online

[hallow panther]

Goodness

[thorn scroll]

what in the world could anyone need that for...

it's extremely well-made, but goodness

[hallow panther]

I know! Im just appreciative of what we have sure the pc mods are cooler but a pcvr can do more than an android phone strapped to your face (essentially all a quest 2 is)

[unkempt hearth]

When you find youself in mementos without a persona and realize it's not all fun and games*

[hallow panther]

Kasumi but she’s || the killer in p4 ||

[thorn scroll]

WHAT

[hallow panther]

Wonder

[thorn scroll]

wow

[magic magnet]

😭😭

[random hinge]

Added, thanks!

[random hinge]

There's actually a maskless variant of the default black leotard in the mod. It's used for certain events, but I can add it as a costume.

[amber plinth]

You're a legend!

[sullen lava]

if I enable the Violet's Personas setting does that mess with the mod at all?

[random hinge]

I don't really know. Since the persona is replaced in Rose & Violet, it's possible nothing will happen when enabling that option, or you might get a blue cendrillon named Anastasie

It's not going to crash your game though

[hallow panther]

Zylvos will you be doing the deadline bad endings (i understand if not most players literally never see them) and the ending from choosing a wrong option directly after sae’s palace

[random hinge]

I have edited the bad endings, but there wasn't much to change to them excepting Kasumi's dialogue

[hallow panther]

Ah ok
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/935648911555698718.webp?size=128

[humble trail]

btw do you guys even go for jazz club singer event? i am not sure cause it will eat into my schedule...

[spare oak]

i did like once but it wasnt really worth it

[humble trail]

not worth it? wdym?

i am torn between going for confidant or jazz

jazz does boost stat aint it

[naive stream]

It is pretty worth it during a second playthrough, plus taking futaba on sundays gives her more abilities to use

[spare oak]

second playthrough i agree

[naive stream]

Ann hits 99 magic at level 76 for me cause of the jazz club, she nukes everything atp

[humble trail]

oh ehy second play through then go jazz?

why?

[spare oak]

better uses for your time

[naive stream]

^

[humble trail]

so you guys recommand focus on confidant first play through?

i am new to this, so i dunno

[naive stream]

First playthrough always getting max stats and maxing confidants so you can get the items they give for the bonus confidant points

[spare oak]

unless its sunday then take futaba to jazz club

[naive stream]

for NG+

yeah sunday take futaba

I think it is 5-6 times for all the things she gets

But you gotta do it every single playthrough for her

[humble trail]

wait max conffidant gives item?

[naive stream]

Uh

Kinda

At the end of the game, every confidant you maxed out gives you an item that gives a bonus to confidant points recieved when you have a matching persona of their arcana

Useful for NG+

[humble trail]

OHHH

[granite wren]

When you beat the game and talk to your maxed confidants before leaving, they give you key items in NG+ that gives you one of their confidant perks early and also makes your link with them raise faster

[naive stream]

Oh yeah and the early perks

[humble trail]

so focus on confidant in first playthrough instead of jazz?

[naive stream]

Yeah

[granite wren]

Yeah

[spare oak]

yea

[humble trail]

alright got it

gonna work chihaya then heard her bonus good

[naive stream]

[granite wren]

I'm ngl like... Jazz Club stats aren't really that big a deal
Especially when the best weapons for some characters give them stats anyway

[humble trail]

noted thansk for the tip

[humble trail]

so reserve jazz for futaba only

[spare oak]

pretty much

[fathom wind]

looking at johesy's white aoa portrait made me realize I never adjusted Kasumi's eye shape for her aoa and wanted portraits wanted to see if I could make a new version that looks more like her

[random hinge]

Oooh, nice! Thank you very much for those!
I can edit Johesy AOA portrait with the eye shape as well, for consistency

[fathom wind]

yay! I’ll send the aoa to wisteria since the one that’s in their addon mod is like the mega old one lol

[hollow owl]

Hey Zylvos, may I ask a question

Did you change kasumis sheath and sword? On her metaverse model?

[random hinge]

Hummm, I haven't touched the Metaverse models in a long time. Weapons and stuff are usually handled by Wisteria's mod, unless it's the white outfit (I had to duplicate the swords from Wisteria's mod for it)

[hollow owl]

It looked different to me, I’m probably just seeing things

[random hinge]

Can you send a screenshot? Just in case

(Yeah, I'm paranoid)

[hollow owl]

Im probably paranoid too lok

lol

[random hinge]

Hum, doesn't look any different to me

This is the long hair model, right?

[hollow owl]

yep

[random hinge]

Yeah, I definitely haven't touched it in a while, ahah

[hollow owl]

I actually like the long hair model more than the ponytail

[random hinge]

All good, that's why we made the two variants for both Wisteria's mod and my model mod. People can pick what they prefer

[hollow owl]

Yee

[spare oak]

the way p5 handles long hair is what kills it for me

i think the menus look really good tho

[hollow owl]

I can see this mod being as like a go to femc route and see it more in p5 yt vids

Almost as if it was apart of the game to begin with

[random hinge]

Yeah, there's only so much we could do with it. I think we reworked the long hair variant 2 or 3 times in total, because some hair parts were moving weird. It look alright now, even if the hair can get into weird positions at times.
Personally, I prefer the ponytail. That's her signature look, ahah

[random hinge]

I'm glad you guys think so. I really wanted to make it as complete as I can (well, without new romances for now) so it doesn't feel like you're playing Joker at all

[hollow owl]

Now that you mention it , I know that the fem joker mod has male romances( or trying from what I remember)

[granite wren]

The girls WILL still remain options if male ones are added right

[random hinge]

Yes, Yusuke and Ryuji I think

[granite wren]

actually wait dumb question you can probably like... reassign what used to be the adult romances to the guys

[random hinge]

Absolutely, I'm not removing romances if I can

[hollow owl]

That’s good

[granite wren]

[random hinge]

Apparently, there's a limit to the number of romanceable characters, so I might have to disable the adult romances to compensate

[spare oak]

except one obviously

[random hinge]

Well, yeah, obviously

The good news is I can reuse Sumire's romance animations for Kasumi when I'll tackle guys romances 😉

[spare oak]

pre story overhaul i physically cringed doing sumire rank 9

[granite wren]

tbh I doubt people would miss "THIS ROMANCE IS UNSUPPORTED" in return for being able to romantically T-pose with Yusuke in the church

https://tenor.com/view/persona-5-persona-5-royal-yusuke-kitagawa-passionate-posing-gif-15442670921078754849

[hollow owl]

Lmao

[granite wren]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-tenna-ant-tenna-deltarune-chapter-3-t-rank-gif-4448444099994715366

[spare oak]

tv time!!

[hallow panther]

Chihiya
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1094276842510364742.gif?size=128

[unkempt hearth]

Oo you're the artist that made the bustups for the mod? You did great work! Were you also the one who made the Kotone/long hair portrait edits?

I wish I knew that the portrait psd were potentially laying around here somewhere. It was a pain making Kasumi's outfit white for the Select Portrait, since it was basically pitch black

[unkempt hearth]

Luckily I didn't have to fix the high exposure textures anyhow (I'm too lazy), since it's mostly blocked and unoticable in game. Though I know if another artist had to edit it, they'd be like wtf is this 😅

[lapis summit]

This costume seems to break battle BGM. It just doesn't play. Victory screen music still plays though

[unkempt hearth]

Friendly reminder that the AoA cutin in the google drive (for the long hair) is still the lower resolution 512kb verison (unless it was updated this morning). Make sure to get the recent version instead before making changes 👍

[hallow panther]

I cant get over how cool that costume is

[unkempt hearth]

Praise the original person who came up with the colour scheme. It's a great outfit

[random hinge]

I'll update everything at the same time later next week I think

[random hinge]

The person that made the long hair models and most of 2D artworks (including those portrait edits) is MyTamagos

[unkempt hearth]

Ah right. Their art skills are pretty amazing

[random hinge]

Hummm, that's curious. I'm just replacing the model that's in Wisteria's mod here. Maybe it's because the name is overriden? I'll have top test a few things

[unkempt hearth]

After seeing the Beta Femc mod (and more to come I'm sure), it's pretty intresting seeing all of the variations of the same images now

[random hinge]

Yeah, the celebrations photos were made by them, and they really nailed the artstyle

[hallow panther]

oh the pictures the characters take like during hotpot

those look so good its insane

[hollow owl]

Now that I’m thinking about it

Will kasumis all out attack picture change, the beauty is devotion one

[hallow panther]

Good question

[unkempt hearth]

^ Reason for not doing so

[hollow owl]

Ahhhh

[unkempt hearth]

But you can also disable Kasumi's AoA art in the config, which is pretty decent

[hallow panther]

honestly hell yea that looks sick

[spare oak]

if no aoa portrait mod works i may re add it

because i really liked it but was unsure if it would work

[unkempt hearth]

It's already a toggleable option in Kasumi as Protagonist's config:

[spare oak]

well it would be weird for just her

imo

[hallow panther]

Im guessing the turn transition will stay red like joker’s honestly it makes the most sense to do it like that

[fathom wind]

no yeah my contributions were only to some of the bustups/portraits with the ponytail and the heart leotard outfit, none of the long hair variants

[queen leaf]

no rush at all but you’ve ultimately decided on doing them?

excited for that

[hallow panther]

The fans yearn to date ryuji

[magic magnet]

We won!

[hallow panther]

rose and violet set to be one of the best p5r mods of all time

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1287476654742044755.png?size=160

[queen leaf]

i kinda ship ryuji with ann so i don’t wanna be a homewrecker LOL

[hallow panther]

I see it

good chemistry especially when they go to the beach

[queen leaf]

real

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-seal-gif-8993121496866626214

[hallow panther]

Also anything to make that fucking cat mad

story morgana my worst enemy 💔

[queen leaf]

i love morgana but yeah the ann simping is probably the only thing i hate about him

[hallow panther]

okumura arc is what does it for me

[queen leaf]

like i don’t understand the point of his crush on ann

[spare oak]

he jjst suddenly becomes insufferable for no reason

[queen leaf]

how does his crush on ann contribute to the story in any way

other than just make him an annoying twat every time he says “lady ann”

[hallow panther]

He shoulda taken after koromaru and not been able to talk

[queen leaf]

unfortunately the velvet room associates have to talk

[magic magnet]

Fr 😭

[hallow panther]

Igor had to have been on his last legs for..THAT to be what he ended up making

[hollow owl]

I think the sad part is that there is only 4 boys that u could date

[magic magnet]

that whole arc felt like a "fuck you" towards haru cause she gets nothing

[hallow panther]

god haru deserves so much more

she has literally everything bad its not fair

[spare oak]

we are going to take the treasure

[hallow panther]

also WHY DONT WE CHANGE HER FIANCÉE’S HEART???

prime fucking target right there

[magic magnet]

That and the school principal

[spare oak]

what if its like shido and the shadow in okumaras palace was like him

[hallow panther]

“If you have time to be out with other boys you have time to hit the gym and thin up” EXCUSE ME??

[hallow panther]

Yes but || he woulda died regardless ||

[spare oak]

but nothing happened because he was always evil

[magic magnet]

And what make that arc worse is that he crashed out over a rule that he made

[hallow panther]

and the arc as a whole was just weak as hell

especially coming offa futaba’s arc

and then this little motherfucker during okumura arc hits the “weren’t you a shut in until recently? You better photosynthesize while you’re out here” excuse me?

just cuz she’s a better navigator doesn’t mean you can start with allat

[spare oak]

she makes a harmless joke and gets hit with that

ruthless creature

[hallow panther]

Yeah realistically im punting morgana offa the shujin rooftop

king of “…i think.”

[hollow owl]

So is Kasumis Anastasie just a placeholder or is it not changing

[granite wren]

Anastasie is here to stay

[hollow owl]

Gotcha

I love Anastasie

[granite wren]

Rose's persona is red, and Violet's is blue
And same

[hollow owl]

Now that you say that it makes perfect sense

Also as to why briar is black and Ella is white

[spare oak]

and then theres the humble ||satanael||

[granite wren]

||I've always seen Satanael as more the Persona of the People tbh||