(P5R PC) Rose & Violet - Story overhaul

[random hinge]

Yeah, if it's Sumire, it's probably that

[buoyant arch]

makes sense, yeah

[random hinge]

@buoyant arch If you still feel like testing the Yaldabaoth fight, DeathChaos made a fix for the event here

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Put those files into p5r_custom_bonus_tweaks_reloaded2_5_0\OptionalModFiles\NOPRERENDERS.CPK\CPK\EVENT\E400\e450

it will replace two files already in that folder

The cutscene is still a black screen in Thieves Den, but that's probably unavoidable at this point

[buoyant arch]

just started doing something else. I'll get to it eventually though, thank you for the heads up.

[random hinge]

No worries. Even if DeathChaos pushes the update tomorrow, it's just to test it so we can see if the issue still happens in normal gameplay

[dull pulsar]

that's diabolical

[lapis tartan]

typo report

[idle rampart]

want to ask a question full persona compendium can only be inherited through ng+ ?

[random hinge]

Thanks for the report!

[random hinge]

Yes, you only keep the compendium content if you start the game in NG+

[autumn elbow]

minor typo

[random hinge]

Added as well, thanks!

Looks like Kasumi's legs are clipping a bit here, I'll let Wisteria know and I'll fix it

[autumn elbow]

Oh my, I didn't even notice that 😂

[radiant plume]

she just wants to be a chair

[autumn elbow]

refuses to sit in the chair, merges into the chair, becomes the chair.

[rapid mural]

"Become The Taaaaablee. arms melt right through! Restless legs now.... I'll become a chair A chair!" "I'll become the chair" It is not for you! I am now the Chair! With the ponytail Hair"

-My apologies to Eddy Vedder-

[indigo oxide]

Been trying to get the mod to work and it hasn't been working, recorded a video here to see if anyone can help, the only part I couldn't do in the guide for installing it was configuring the Kasumi as Protagonist settings

[random hinge]

You're using an old version of Kasumi as protagonist

Grab the pre-release build here

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[indigo oxide]

It worked thank you

[rapid mural]

Welcome to A New World. Remember not to skip anything or make sure to read the log if you do!

Lots of little surprises along the way as I am sure you just saw.

Enjoy!

[indigo oxide]

I've been taking it slow

[dense moat]

i need to ask um what happend ? did i miss a step in installation ?

[radiant plume]

nightmare fuel

holy shit

[dense moat]

already solved it kinda miss some step

[rapid mural]

KasumiNoShiChi!!!

[dull pulsar]

my god

thanks god its morning
or i would have nightmare

[rapid mural]

Ok so sometimes Reloaded wont fully add a mod. The KasumiNoShiChi shows up due to costume errors in ny experience and when I have a mod not fully installed.

I would delete all Kasumi mods. Reinsatll them and keep an eye on the mod number and make sure it goes up as you add them.

IE when you say add "Mod" the mod number goes from 59 to 60

[rapid mural]

Oh good! I made the image cause that is honestly so terrifying it should be a persona

But I always try and check the mod number when the spectre of death appears

[dull pulsar]

please no
l already creeped out by pisaca's design
i aint wanna see KasumiNoShiChi

[rapid mural]

wait til you see Mara

[dull pulsar]

oh no

sure hope it's isnt nightmare indusing

[rapid mural]

there were montsers like them in Kamoshida's palace. they er look like um...

Ok Lets just say they look like a monster the Greek God Priapus would cook up. you can google that.

please just say an ok

[autumn elbow]

Ah memories of forgetting the load order

[dull pulsar]

oh
lust design

yeah
i wonder how lust design creature like that manage to be released

[lapis tartan]

Is "Shut Up, Sae!" compatible with this mod?

[lapis tartan]

Also this isn't really an issue report for the mod, but given most of the other flashback images are revised, I was wondering if this one on 11/23 was overlooked

[random hinge]

It almost fully compatible, except for Sumire rank 1 where i added a new line. Put it before Rose & Violet just to be safe, and you should only get Sae during Sumire rank 1

[random hinge]

Yeah, I haven't changed those. I've considered using a screenshot of the 3D cutscene to replace though, but there's no real equivalent

[lapis tartan]

i figured

it's only on screen for a split second though so it doesn't really bother me

[solar igloo]

Should i be worried? I didn't even chose the option to romance Takemi

[spice seal]

um i don't know what happened here whit the first option

[thorn scroll]

this must be so terrifying to see ingame

[random hinge]

Well, you'll clearly say "I love you" to her right after, so you have started the romance

It's a bit aggressive though, i'll give you that

ahah

[thorn scroll]

imagine having a conversation with takemi and she yells that at the top of her lungs

[random hinge]

Are you using the lastest version (Hotfix 1)? I've fixed that

[solar igloo]

ummm

[random hinge]

Yeah, I ca probably remove the portrait or tone it down a bit

[thorn scroll]

i actually think it's good

i just thought it was funny

[random hinge]

And you get the warning after answering that?

[solar igloo]

Yep

[spice seal]

o my bad then im on the older version then

[random hinge]

And if you continue, does it say that stuff?

[solar igloo]

Mhm

[random hinge]

Yes or no?

[solar igloo]

Yes it does say that

[random hinge]

I've checked and the above dialogue clearly plays after triggering the romance

Do you have the hearts in the confidant summary?

[solar igloo]

let me check

Yep it has the hearts

[random hinge]

Alright, so yo'uve somehow triggered the romance

Do you have other mods?

Or have you used the mod menu to edit your save?

[solar igloo]

Just these, they dont really edit much mostly music and descriptions in the persona skills

[random hinge]

Hmmm

[solar igloo]

Dont have the mod menu.

[random hinge]

And you answered "It was for my training" and it trriggered the romance?

[solar igloo]

Yep as you can see in the image I chose "It was for my training"

[random hinge]

Can you reload your save and try the other option? It should say "I wanted to see you"

[solar igloo]

I tried "confessing" her then reject her to see if anything changes

[solar igloo]

it just leads to this

[random hinge]

So all choices lead you to the romance?

[solar igloo]

Pretty much. Will try "confessing" to her a second time tho then reject her to see if anything changes.

[pseudo dock]

what mod is giving you the heart on that dialogue option?

[solar igloo]

It should be the confidant cheat sheet for this mod.

Cant really think anything else since none of my mods edit anything for confidants

except for the ones dedicated to this one

[pseudo dock]

It'd probably be that I'd say. Might've carried over the bitflag part accidentally or something.

[solar igloo]

Will disable it after "Confessing" to her to see if anything changes

Yep all choices leads to start the romance

Going to disable the cheat sheet

[random hinge]

The cheat sheet shouldn't change anything related to bitflags

[solar igloo]

Disabled it

Its fixed

[random hinge]

Well

what

the

f

[pseudo dock]

the bitflag trigger is stored inside the BF with the dialogue

[random hinge]

Yeah, but the corresponding BF file is in Rose & Violet

Not in the Cheat Sheet mod

[pseudo dock]

is it BF emulated?

[random hinge]

No

[pseudo dock]

what about the cheat sheet one?

[random hinge]

The Cheat sheet only has BMDs for that confidant

[pseudo dock]

hmm, then the bmd must be messing with it somehow

let me download it and take a look rq

[random hinge]

Can you try something again? Enable the cheat sheet and go to

p5rpc.kasumi.roseandviolet_beta_HF1\P5REssentials\CPK\EN.CPK\EVENT_DATA\SCRIPT\E700

In Rose & Violet

[solar igloo]

sure

[random hinge]

Rename the file "E713_090.BF" to "AAA_713_090.BF"

Just so the game no longer recognizes it

And try again

I'd like to see if the BF is messing with it somehow

[solar igloo]

Done going to try it again

[random hinge]

Ah well, I can always send you the file again to restore it

[solar igloo]

That fixed it

[pseudo dock]

Oh I misread you. Thats where they're stored. Though it is interesting since the cheat sheet doesn't have the flag in there.

[random hinge]

Rename it to "E713_090.BF" to restore it and try again, just to confirm?

[solar igloo]

Sure

[solar igloo]

Renamed it back and tried again to see it fixed

[random hinge]

Ooookay, this is weird

[solar igloo]

I'm wondering how this happened

[random hinge]

You did rename it to "E713_090.BF", not XXX.BMD ?

[solar igloo]

Yep

[random hinge]

I made a mistake with the file extension when I told you to rename it

Alright

[random hinge]

Well, if that fixes it for you, that's good

[random hinge]

I thought I had nuked the romance flag on the first answer by mistake, but it doesn't seem so. I didn't want to mess with the flags to disable the romance, so I jsut changed the dialogues

And I made sure the BF file isn't recompiled with the old libraries that had issues

[pseudo dock]

you should be able to just remove the [f 2 7 0 1 734 1] along with the other one in the msg and be fine.

since all it does is trigger a specific bitflag. So it shouldn't mess up anything else.

[random hinge]

Well, unless I have to, I'd rather not mess with the flag and let people choose the option for the platonic route

It's strange that messing around with the files or disabling just one mod fixed it though

Stochastic bugs now, I feel special

[pseudo dock]

what you could do. Is have a addon for specifically the romances you're not supporting? idk maybe make them emulated so it'll overwrite everything else. And then have the specific cheat sheet files emulated as well. It'd be a bit tricky but you could pull it off.

[random hinge]

You mean make an addon where I disable the flags in the BMDs or BFs?

[pseudo dock]

Kinda, essentially just remove the bitflag from the BMD rather than the BF.

Then have it emulated so it'll overwrite your main mod changes (then of course just emulate the files from cheat sheet).

Emulation will overwrite any non-emulated changes regardless of load order

[solar igloo]

Neveeermind

[random hinge]

Alright, do you still have your save from before rank 8?

[solar igloo]

Yep tho its weird.'

[random hinge]

Let's try something

[solar igloo]

The dialogue shows its your mod

[random hinge]

Download this and replace the file in Rose & Violet with it

And try rank 8

[solar igloo]

Sure

[random hinge]

Well, I'll consider it. It would be useful if people want a button to disable adult romances, but it add more files to keep track of because those flags are scattered in the social link (since you need to hit multiple flags to enable the romances with adults)

[pseudo dock]

you don't need to change those. Just the bitflag in the rank 9 events.

So ideally you'd only have 5 emulated files (I can't remember all of the ones you disabled off the top of my head).

[solar igloo]

Nevermind I dont have the save

Well I do but I need to defeat to do the request to progress her social link again

[random hinge]

Well you're stuck with the romance in that case

I heavily recommend making multiple saves

[solar igloo]

Alright time to spend thirty minutes doing this again, will update you in a bit

[random hinge]

Make a save before rank 8

We'll try a few things

We should've checked the confidant summary, see if the little hearts are here

[pseudo dock]

you could use a mod menu to turn the bit off

[random hinge]

Well that would fix their save, but not my mod, ahah

[pseudo dock]

well yeah

[stoic scroll]

is there an all out attack with the white leotard bc that outfit is so good

[random hinge]

It's strange that they're the first person to report this issue. A few people must've have finished those social links by now, given how far they are in the game

[random hinge]

Unfortunately no. I don't even know if it's possible to make all out attack finishers to go with a costume

[stoic scroll]

yeah i thought so, ty tho

guess ima just act like the aoa is white 😭

[random hinge]

You can use the "No AOA finisher" if that bothers you

[stoic scroll]

oh right that does exist

yeah thank you ima grab that whenever i save next

[pseudo dock]

you could potentially make a config for it?

[random hinge]

Well, I don't have anything set up to code those config options (I was told it's 10 GB to download and it involves a bit of coding)

And AOA finishers are 3D meshes so they're not going to be easy to make

[pseudo dock]

I see

[random hinge]

(at least for me)

[idle rampart]

is there anything should know about romance of this mod? or it's simply just same with the original

[random hinge]

No new romances, only girls can be romanced. Dialogues are changed for the "supported" romances.
Supported romances : Ann, Makoto, Futaba, Haru, Hifumi
Unsupported romances (no change to dialogues = Joker dialogues) = Kawakami, Chihaya, Takemi, Ohya
Blocked romances : Sumire
There's a warning before starting unsupported romances so you don't start them by accident if you don't want to.
All hangouts dialogues for supported romances are edited (including hangout with the guys. Those were fun to make as they still happen with Ryuji,etc.)
I'll look into adding new romances later. It's a lot of work that would push back the release considerably.

[solar igloo]

Alright done

[random hinge]

Okay, can you try rank 8 with the file I sent you

And check the confidant summary after

[random hinge]

Okay, that's what I expected

I sent you the vanilla game file

Now, we'll try with two files I have edited

But I've used a different method for both of them

First one:

Try again rank 8 and check the summary

[solar igloo]

Alrighty

[random hinge]

Wait

The summary should be for rank 9

That's the event where you get to romance her

Basically, I want to check if after the event, the romance flag is set or no

[solar igloo]

ah

Alright then give me a few minutes

[random hinge]

Alright, tell me with wich file you've tested it when you report the result

So I can keep track of it

[solar igloo]

I just noticed the dialogue has been changed

Its no longer guinea pig

[random hinge]

Okay

I think your save is cooked, ahah

This "Oh hey. Any change in your condition after that last one?" is the dialogue after rank8

The dialogue after rank 9 has the guinea pig

[solar igloo]

Tried reloading the save and doing rank 8 to 9 again

and...

Its back...

[random hinge]

With which file?

[solar igloo]

With this file

[random hinge]

Okay

Can you try again with that one

#1351304235320348683 message

[solar igloo]

Okay....

[random hinge]

Okay, try this one now

[idle rampart]

so I can start it if I want to right

[random hinge]

You can start the unsupported romances if you want, but you'll talk and be talked to like you are Joker, not Kasumi

[idle rampart]

oh ok I am completely fine with that

by the way the mod only supports English right

[random hinge]

Yes, text edits are in english only

[solar igloo]

Same outcome

[random hinge]

Okay, let's try one last

Disable Rose & Violet and the cheat sheet

And try again

I want to know if it's the event that's causing it or if the flag is somehow already "On"

[solar igloo]

Alright

[solar igloo]

These two right?

[random hinge]

Yeah, disable classroom as well

[solar igloo]

Aight

Welp this is a rip

[random hinge]

It says "it was for my training"

It should say "It was for my exams"

If you've disabled everything Rose & Violet related

[solar igloo]

Hm it should be

[random hinge]

Oh

Disable the equipment patch

Everything with "Rose & Violet" in it

Disable it

[solar igloo]

This should be all now

Okay going to try again

Okay what the f

[random hinge]

Alright

So you have the romance flag set up before that event

Now this could mean

I made a mistake editing some files and it enables the flag before that event

Or

This flag is enabled in your save for some reason

You're the first to report this issue

So it may be the latter

I'm going to check the files and see if I made a mistake because I can't easily retest this without replaying the game entirely

Now, what to do about your save...

Grab mod menu here

https://github.com/ShrineFox/Persona-5-Mod-Menu/releases/tag/1.9

And we'll disable the romance flag

[solar igloo]

Alrighty

[random hinge]

Just to test something

Use your save from before rank 9

So we can see if the flag is enabled or not

[solar igloo]

With the Rose and Violet mods disabled?

[random hinge]

You can enable everything Rose & Violet

[solar igloo]

Okay downloaded the mod menu

And im at the save before Rank 9

[random hinge]

Okay, let me launch the game so I can guide you

The flag number are:

3797

And maybe 3806

[solar igloo]

Both flag numbers are disabled.

[random hinge]

You've disabled them?

it said "off" after you inputed them?

[solar igloo]

nope just printed all the disabled flags to the logs

[random hinge]

Okay, can you play rank 9 and check the disabled flags again

I have no idea what's going on, to be honest

I don't know if it's your save

Or my mod

[solar igloo]

Sure

Okay... So far so good

[random hinge]

Do you have the hearts in the confidant summary?

[solar igloo]

Ah.

yep

[random hinge]

Ok, check the flags

[solar igloo]

3797 is enabled

3806 is disabled

[random hinge]

Okay, so the event did enable 3797

Try disabling it

Set individual flag

And input 03797

It should say it's now "off"

And you should no longer have the hearts

[solar igloo]

ummm

[random hinge]

Hum, maybe you need to save and reload to make it work. Make another save, don't override the existing one

[pseudo dock]

try 3806

[solar igloo]

Still there

[solar igloo]

I set it to on and the hearts are still there

[pseudo dock]

nah it has to be set off to work. hmm

[random hinge]

I actually managed to test it in normal gameplay

I don't get the romance

[random hinge]

Can you show your complete load order?

[solar igloo]

sure

[random hinge]

Can you try disabling those mods

Whoops

[solar igloo]

Sure

[random hinge]

And try again rank 9

[solar igloo]

Interesting.

Now to see which mod does that

[random hinge]

Yeah

We should have started with that, ahah

I didn't think one of those mod could be responsible

[solar igloo]

I had the same thought

[random hinge]

Just be careful : if a mod has another mod as a dependency, this other mod is enabled and loaded even if it's disabled in the load order

It could be Inaba Exe patcher

But I don't know if your other mods have it as a dependency

[lapis tartan]

I was wondering if inaba patcher is even necessary

It seems like it's not needed by most, if any, p5r mods

[random hinge]

Yeah, I've never used it personally and you don't need it with my mods

[solar igloo]

Found the culprit

It is indeed the Inaba Exe patcher

[tidal glacier]

I thought it was used for the challenge battles new backgrounds?

[solar igloo]

Welp. That was a ride. Its my fault I didn't say i had Inaba Exe Patcher enabled

[tidal glacier]

Or does that come with another mod

[lapis tartan]

the what?

[lapis tartan]

I tried to determine whether it was causing my audio issues yesterday, (silent text box was the culprit) but all I could do determine was that I have no idea what it does

speaking of silent text box I really miss that mod now that it's disabled

[tidal glacier]

Challenge battles, the velvet room battles where you can rack up points, the special battles with Narukami and Makoto

[lapis tartan]

ah

dang is it needed for those?

I really like those

[tidal glacier]

I’m unsure honestly

I thought it was used for that

[solar igloo]

Definitely disabling it now it causes the romance flags to be automatically turned on

[random hinge]

No worries, I'll recommend disabling it if people don't need it

If you need it for challenge battles, you can enable it while you play them and disable it afterwards

But yeah that's a weird interaction

[lapis tartan]

i'll just keep it disabled

much as i enjoy what that mod does

i've already done the battles

not much else I can do with them

now i just need to get rid of the incessant clicking the text box does in this game

[dawn inlet]

hey guys did any hotfix or update dropped ? I only have the first release

[tribal scroll]

pot of greed

[Reply to:](#1351304235320348683 message) hey guys did any hotfix or update dropped ? I only have the first release

Zylvos

Rose & Violet Beta 1 - Hotfix 1
The following mods have been updated:

• Ponytail models mod
• Long hair variant models mod
• Confidant cheat sheet
• Rose & Violet Story Overhaul

Please, update to the latest version of those mods to make sure the report are accurate. To do so, delete the folder with the previous version and replace it with the new version.

Changelog:

Ponytail and Long Hair variant models mod:
The music has been added the new outfits (2B / Aerith / Robin / Kat / Kotone)

Confidant Cheat sheet:
Typos have been fixed.

Rose & Violet Story Overhaul:

• Typos have been fixed.
• More edits to the negotiation dialogues.
• Change the CMM.BIN and CMPTABLE.BIN to use the FEmulator. This should make them compatible with mods like Always Rank up.
• Sumire now has her long hair in the title screen.
• Bathrooms in Shujin have been fixed for specific days (like 04/11 and 04/13).

Load order setup:
The list of incompatible mods has been updated with "NG+ Arcana Bonus" (page 5/5).

Reminder:

• Make sure Custom Bonus Tweaks (version 2.5.2+) and Persona Essentials (version 2.9.2+) are up to date.
• ** Don't use the alternate models mod on Gamebanana**. It is outdated and will not work with Wisteria's latest test build.
• Make sure Wisteria's test build is up to date.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cpFZisgX0PqGAvu2LipYZ1fk-YIziilB?usp=drive_link

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[rapid mural]

Btw I Know as a Writer(unless we are specifically writing a romance) we attempt to be neautral.

That said I appreciate that there is some unique flavour text for certain characters. And it's happening more now that Makoto is here.

Kasumi is a month younger than Futaba so it almost means she looks up to Ann in a way.

It changes every dynamic so much and has me paying hyper attention to your changes.

Thank you!
arigato ne
merci

[dense moat]

need to ask which romance option is supported at this time ?

[tribal scroll]

Grims

[Reply to:](#1351304235320348683 message) need to ask which romance option is supported at this time ?

Zylvos

No new romances, only girls can be romanced. Dialogues are changed for the "supported" romances.
Supported romances : Ann, Makoto, Futaba, Haru, Hifumi
Unsupported romances (no change to dialogues = Joker dialogues) = Kawakami, Chihaya, Takemi, Ohya
Blocked romances : Sumire
There's a warning before starting unsupported romances so you don't start them by accident if you don't want to.
All hangouts dialogues for supported romances are edited (including hangout with the guys. Those were fun to make as they still happen with Ryuji,etc.)
I'll look into adding new romances later. It's a lot of work that would push back the release considerably.

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[rapid mural]

I am really looking forward to the Hifumi confidant!

I know it's not til rank 7 or 8 but even platonically Rose and Hifumi have a lot more in common than Shogi.

[dull pulsar]

soo
what does inaba exe patcher suppose to even do?

[rapid mural]

I always assumed it was a developer tool. I have a super deluxe P4 Golden Reloaded 2 that was bundled with a lot of mods.

It finally let me play p4 without it crashing.

I didn't even know Inaba was a universal mod.

[radiant plume]

lets mods add .expatch files to the game iirc

example mod from p3re

[dull pulsar]

huh
so a developer tool somehow mess with the romance?

[lapis tartan]

seems like i got the black screen for yaldabaoth's death scene

though at least the bad part of the game is finally over and I can get back to the good stuff again

[random hinge]

This should be fixed with Custom Bonus Tweaks latest update

[lapis tartan]

ah i see

would be nice if were simply able to skip that sequence imo though

[random hinge]

To remove the pre-rendered cutscene, they reused the event that is in the beta of the game. Apparently, the skip button is missing in it and they haven't figured out how to re-add it

[lapis tartan]

ah

no matter i suppose

i had star trek on the other monitor to distract me while that was going on

[bright hawk]

3rd semester mod spoilers. seriously if you dont want spoilers for r+v no clicky
||i want to say that i really like the whole 'maruki saved kasumis life' plot bc of what that does to a kid. it's the same with akechi, but stranger. you'd think that kasumi would react with gratitude, but my kasumi is starting to become convinced that she was supposed to die that day and everything she has been doing has been borrowed time. it really pulls in those elements from other persona games, esp p3 femc, to sell a unique character with a tragic backstory.
just imagine a couple years after the events where she's still alive and can't even talk about how maruki severely traumatized her that day bc you don't just tell a kid "hey you should've died". it affects sumire even worse and i really like how the sl actually talks about that and gets into her depression and self worth issues. it's a bit harsher than vanilla royal which makes sense bc that event is harsh for a kid
suffice it to say this arc is just as good if not better than vanilla especially in selling how harsh this has to feel. like my kasumi would never want maruki's reality bc of what happened to sumire but if she's wrong in thinking she'll survive back into the real reality she very well might cease to exist
tldr mod is very good and i like the story||

[brittle owl]

hey there, thanks for your work on this great mod, big appreciate

Now, maybe a dumb question, but the kasumi as proteg doesnt have a config option when i right click it..
Is there something im missing? or am i using the wrong file or sth?

[idle rampart]

any know bugs about overworld costume

[random hinge]

You are using the mod from Gamebana, which is an outdated. The new version is currently in pre-release for testing and can be downloaded here
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[brittle owl]

thank you , i had a hunch i was doing something wrong

[rapid mural]

um when you post a wall of text like that you write what the spoiler is about at the top not at the end.

or both.

[bright hawk]

oh sure yeah one sec I'll fix edit:is fixed

i really hope you didn't click on it and spoil yourself. if so I'm sorry i didn't mean it like that

[dull pulsar]

||why does it sound a bit like futaba's? or is that just me||

[rapid mural]

i noped the hell out of it after I realized it was a mod spoiler and it IS why I don't share ANY of my theories here.

(apparently one of em may have been borderline right.)

and thank u!!

[rapid mural]

a little bit but... i think i am ok! just one line and closed

[bright hawk]

(was just sharing thoughts for the mod author is all. dm felt inappropriate tbh)

[rapid mural]

yer ok! Just lots of spoilers for royal are posted here so its always good to say if its a mod spoiler

[bright hawk]

oh ok sorry i added it at the end bc i assumed people wouldnt click on it unless they wanted spoilers and i thought the warning at all was good enough

[rapid mural]

You are probably right!

haha

i thought it was a royal spoiler and then exited

[bright hawk]

||i mean ok i like futaba and my kasumi is romancing her so shes influenced by that story bc shes a teen so like... yeah
its not the same as her story tho. its different||

[rapid mural]

but didn't see much and it will stop me from trying to troll through old saves to find out the difference.

Cause I still don't know what happened.

I just have half an idea now

so in a way I am relieved to see a bit behind the curtain.

[bright hawk]

royal spoilers ||when you get to that scene with sumire on 1/2 youll understand||

[rapid mural]

its not like when yer looking up aome stuff about Haru's dad and some guy is like "so I am at the point when "#^+" kills haru's dad"

like there's no reason for that!

[dull pulsar]

||i know its different, but the overall message is somehow similar imo||

[rapid mural]

thank you!! I have so many theories! Kasumi has more agency then Joker did so i
this will be fun.

[dull pulsar]

also
||how the "romance" with futaba? is it good?||

[bright hawk]

mod spoilers||oh yeah for sure. esp for sumire. for kasumi it's different bc she's getting like a different character from the persona series treatment but sumire deffo has the futaba parallels||

[bright hawk]

mod spoilers||oh yeah it's good! you choose how you see futaba and it really can go either way!||

[rapid mural]

gotta put myself back in ffxiv mode you know

[dull pulsar]

||LET'S GOOO||

[bright hawk]

sorry i reached third sem and had thoughts

[dull pulsar]

i just like game theory in general

[rapid mural]

no worries.

[dull pulsar]

anyway
damn
lunar already reach 3rd sem
while here i am still in wrath's date

[bright hawk]

I've been playing a lot lately lol dont mind me

[dull pulsar]

while i mostly just playing at night

currently have a few problem with my game

but idk if it related to this mod or just a problem with my game

[rapid mural]

I post walls of text in here constantly just talking about how much I love the mod.

I played almost the entire game as BetaFemc.

And Kasumi is such a different experience than her it's really wild.

BetaFemc dated Makoto but Kasumi is a month younger than Futaba so Ann feels like a Makoto relationship to Kasumi almost. And its earlier without the suspicion and stuff.

(even though I adore Makoto)

[bright hawk]

i picked futaba bc id done an ann-mance before

and the others didn't fit the vibe for my kasumi

[rapid mural]

Futaba actually makes a lot of sense for Kasumi. Kasumi already has a sister, K and F are roughly the same age, and although Kasumi was a famous gymnast she is also learning how to be a normal person to some degree.

[bright hawk]

yee exactly!

[dull pulsar]

soo
i somehow have a mod called Event Fadeout Table Merging
should i enable it?

[random hinge]

Yes, it's actually a dependency for Custom Bonus Tweaks

So it's going to be enabled anyway

But might as well enable it yourself

[dull pulsar]

huh
didnt know

gonna do that on my next save

[dull pulsar]

uhm "to have to"?

[random hinge]

Oh yeah, that's a typo. Thanks for the report

[dull pulsar]

sad
not compatible with timeless twin

[random hinge]

It may work if you put Timeless twin below Rose & Violet. It's going to override some dialogue changes when talking to them in front of the velvet room, but it shouldn't impact the outings dialogues themselves

[dull pulsar]

oh
nice

[rapid mural]

Hey Not going to Ping you Zylvos But I hope you enjoyed all the love last night! I got a quasi spoiler(I exited out so quick I barely know what I saw)

Also why I made the post a while back that "I have lots of wild theories and I wont share any of them muahahaha!"

Because sometiemes my wild theories are close. They got even wilder now!

I ALSO found out that (Kasumi alias) Ryoma Yasurakashi's partner Ann is voiced by Nana Mizuki. She voiced Rena in Star Ocean Evolution and Hinata in Naruto. They seem to be so different. But with Ann's tender and soft side I see why she was chosen for the role.

Oh and I am at 6/30 after stealing the treasure!

Great work! I really liked the changes.

Oh!!! Since you said you may add romance in the future the event with Ryujii and Kasumi(which I adore!) could actually have some nice dialogue if they are dating. I think its possible to have Ryujii and/or Ann at rank 9 around palace 3 I think.

But I really liked the little changes here and there for the month of June.

It makes it hard not to want to date Makoto again because she really was my favourite when I first played the game but..

TLFR: Everyday was Great in Your June!

I really loved the Ryujii and Kasumi shinjuku event. The setup and the event itself just flowed so well.

really nice to see dialogue that respects that Kasumi is a woman but not helpless.

There are places we are wary of going to alone even if it means we go with 2 other women or a mixed group.

I know you wouldn't write Kasumi as helpless or a damsel but I don't see nuanced dialogue like that a lot.

arigato ne

[lapis tartan]

i'm on that part now and I don't quite get it

Kasumi ||has a near miss with death in this timeline instead of actually dying?||

or is it that ||she does die but maruki's reality sets in||

[bright hawk]

r+v spoilers ||yeah, so maruki was across the street from sumire and showed her what was supposed to happen and that convinced sumire to not cross the street. that caused kasumi to not chase after and changed the events.||

||so yeah, near miss with death but like, for a 15 year old, seeing that without fully understanding might make them think they were supposed to die||

[lapis tartan]

so when ||he's defeated that won't negate what he did then to prevent her death||?

[bright hawk]

||i say 'supposed to' but more like thats what happens without maruki there
im honestly not sure what will happen. i still havent actually reached the ending. kasumi should live but its definitely possible all actualizations are corrected relating to sumire so||

[lapis tartan]

ah

||I'll be hoping that's she doesn't die then because the one thing I disliked about P3 was the death of the protagonist and I'd hate for that to happen again||

[bright hawk]

i know why you made that comment but bc the nature of the spoiler is in itself a spoiler for this mod and p5r by extension id be careful with this one.
i was just gonna say spoiler tag but even that might spoil stuff for the mod

||but yes, the thing you were discussing there is an important part of the story of said game, and shouldnt be dismissed. i don't imagine it'll happen this time, tho zyvlos already knows the answer to that lol. my comment was more about what's going through their head rather than truth.||

[lapis tartan]

i guess we'll see when we finish

I might even finish tonight

[random hinge]

I'm glad you're enjoying it!

Adding dialogues depending on if the character is romanced may be a bit tricky. Ryuji can be maxed very early so some dialogues may become weird if you're supposed to be in a romance with him. I could treat it like Ann's romance where she says that they're hiding it from the others and they're waiting to tell them (it's already like that in the base game, I didn't add it).
I would also need to figure out how to do to that from a technical standpoint (Flag check in a flowscript and probably a separate message to code in the event, i suppose)

[kind shell]

hanging out with Ryuji on valantines day will be gooooooood enough for me

[lapis tartan]

typo report

[rich tree]

Joined the discord to better follow this mod. Looking forward to release so I can run it.

[floral hill]

Nah just average modern language frfr

[lapis tartan]

it already has a beta release

if you want to try it

[lapis tartan]

the kids aren't learning english these days. sad!

[bright hawk]

can you at least spoiler that? just royal spoilers but still

[magic magnet]

Huh? We can do that now?

[lapis tartan]

mb

he's literally me

[rich tree]

Where do I find the beta file?

[rapid mural]

not yet but at some point Zylvos is thinking of addin male romance to the mod. and the conversation came up because I really enjoyed his event with Kasumi in Shinjuku.

I'm not interested in dating him but It would be a even better one when someone was.

Its just nice to have that nuance.

Kasumi is abadass phantom thief.

But look there are spots where woman dont go alone.

[magic magnet]

I see I can't wait for it then thanks!

[rich tree]

where does one find the beta I would love to try it

[tribal scroll]

Tali214

[Reply to:](#1351304235320348683 message) where does one find the beta I would love to try it

Zylvos

Rose & Violet Beta 1 - Hotfix 1
The following mods have been updated:

• Ponytail models mod
• Long hair variant models mod
• Confidant cheat sheet
• Rose & Violet Story Overhaul

Please, update to the latest version of those mods to make sure the report are accurate. To do so, delete the folder with the previous version and replace it with the new version.

Changelog:

Ponytail and Long Hair variant models mod:
The music has been added the new outfits (2B / Aerith / Robin / Kat / Kotone)

Confidant Cheat sheet:
Typos have been fixed.

Rose & Violet Story Overhaul:

• Typos have been fixed.
• More edits to the negotiation dialogues.
• Change the CMM.BIN and CMPTABLE.BIN to use the FEmulator. This should make them compatible with mods like Always Rank up.
• Sumire now has her long hair in the title screen.
• Bathrooms in Shujin have been fixed for specific days (like 04/11 and 04/13).

Load order setup:
The list of incompatible mods has been updated with "NG+ Arcana Bonus" (page 5/5).

Reminder:

• Make sure Custom Bonus Tweaks (version 2.5.2+) and Persona Essentials (version 2.9.2+) are up to date.
• ** Don't use the alternate models mod on Gamebanana**. It is outdated and will not work with Wisteria's latest test build.
• Make sure Wisteria's test build is up to date.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cpFZisgX0PqGAvu2LipYZ1fk-YIziilB?usp=drive_link

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[rich tree]

ty

[rich tree]

ok stupid question im used to using reloaded to install persona mods

so how do I install this drop the zip file into reloaded?

[rapid mural]

sometimes that works, but I unzipped did a search for ".7" and put THOSE files into reloaded

[rich tree]

i think i figured it out

[rapid mural]

woo

[rich tree]

not sure this is going to break my run though

im near the end of this current run so I may have to turn it off till Im done with 3rd semester

[rapid mural]

also the line is now "You have all of us" instead of "you uave the others" like a PoS in one of the confidant conversations.

It always sounded so dissonant.

I swear thats worth a mod on its own.

[lapis tartan]

another typo to report

[rapid mural]

this was in response to Zylvos but not fair to ping Z with this much.

Ping me all you like with walls though.

seriously it is like discovering a video game from 15 years ago you thought you finished.

I don't always know if it's new dialogue or I forgot it/didn't experience it first time round.
I am genderqueer so playing a Butch "Betafemc redux" with just she/her joker was still wonderful....

But even games that get accolades are not normally as balanced with how the female lead is treated.

The way Kasumi is treated more normal than female leads in some other games. And it shouldn't take working backwards and being a brilliant coder for that.

---

Game developers need to realize that sometimes the reason a woman or Genderqueer person might want to be a woman character is just to enjoy a game where a woman is 150% capable and is treated the same as her male nakama.

Because I feel the mod makes Kasumi more as a member of the Phantom Thieves they have decided is Leader like Kotone.

I feel p5 royal still treated the thieves about equally when they all talked to eachother as friends but that Joker was still somehow above them.

I don't know when that happened because even in Rose and Violet Makoto is almost like a honorary co leader when first joins.

But anyway

TLFR:

I feel like I finished a game called Persona 5 Royal: Rose and Violet 10 years ago. I think I finished it but my memory is fuzzy.

I just started playin Rose and Violet and I am so excited the stuff I remember recontextualized with all this brand new stuff that I am not prepared for at all.

[jagged dome]

I fucking love this mod

[dull pulsar]

ikr

operation maidwatch is just comedy

[jagged dome]

Is Social Stat Tracker compatible?

[dull pulsar]

most likely

[kind shell]

Naiii well I just meant when you play as Joker antways if you dont date anyone you just chill with Ryuji on Valentine's. Not sure if any dialogue chanfhws tbigvt

[rapid mural]

yes. also if you click stats in the main menu you can see em

but yea it does!!

[rapid mural]

it does make Ryujii the easiest to make a romance mod for though

[jagged dome]

THAT was weird

I just started the twins outings

And got a confidant point

I didn’t even know that was possible

why is that even programmed?

[bright hawk]

oh yeah i noticed that too. i have no idea why

[random hinge]

Thanks for the two reports, I'll have them fixed in the next update

[random hinge]

Do you get the confidant points during the outing or when discussing where to go in front of Velvet Room?

It could be the Timeless Twins Outings mod

I'm not the one who added this, at least

[bright hawk]

oh uh i think it was during the outing and i didn't even have that mod enabled

sorry it's been a while

[jagged dome]

During the first outing outside of BBB

Right before you get your skill cards

I don’t have timeless velvet outings either

[bright hawk]

oh yeah that's right i can confirm

[rapid mural]

probably a relic from the beta. maybe it used to open something up faster or give a chance to get a duplocate award or something.

Something like that would be a pain to uncode though.

So the little note stayed as a line of code.

To say they like you

[lapis tartan]

makes me wish event editing was a less difficult process

if only we could have a mod that adds in more character interactions like p4 has

[idle rampart]

ok don't know if I could call this a bug after unlock maruki confident the game stucks for like one-three minutes with the interrogation music play background and then return to normal

interrogation room scene with sae

uh well not stuck its just the picture flipping scene didn't happen

[dull pulsar]

beautiful

[random hinge]

I'll check when I get home. Do you use the "Shut up Sae" mod? It could be that mod if it's the interrogation part of the event that causes issues

[idle rampart]

no

[elder kraken]

Justice rank 3 after hangout phone call is wrong

||akechi still talks as if you can be his body double despite being female||

[bright hawk]

ok but it's funny so i didn't care and still don't

[dull pulsar]

let's go
sibling moment

[raw marlin]

If only the gloves were blue

[solar igloo]

Ive been wondering but where do you get the white variant?

[random hinge]

Your load order isn't quite right and some required mods are disabled (even though the dependencies will enable them anyway). I recommend following that load order to reduce the number of issues

#1351304235320348683 message

[random hinge]

I've kept the that dialogue but I've made some light changes to it
||"Even with how different our body shapes are, I'm sure my clothes could fit you."||

[random hinge]

It's from Wisteria's mod. They're not using my model mod here. I haven't made the white variant for Kasumi

[solar igloo]

Oh I see, time to find it then.

[elder kraken]

if you happen to find it, can you ping me? i love that look

[random hinge]

I think it's in the addon mod from Wisteria's

They are a lot of costumes in it

[solar igloo]

Yep found it thanks

@elder kraken Its in the addon mod as Zylvos said.

[elder kraken]

i'll see if i can find it later

[random hinge]

I've been confused because I've seen people saying the Gamebanana page of the mod was private. I have finally figured out what going on.
The "project" page with the (WIP) in the title and the progression bar is public. However, I have prepared a "mod" page for the release version because I'm very close to the upload limit on Gamebanana for projects (200 MB I think).
This mod page is private so I thought I was the only person who could see it, but it's actually referenced on google. People can go to the link but it will say it's private.

Anyway, that's normal

[bright hawk]

i couldve sworn i saw a link to it somewhere else (ie gamebanana search results) but ig not

[lapis tartan]

too bad the white version doesn't come with a long hair variant

[lapis tartan]

i saw the private version when searching for stuff on gamebanana

though obviously i couldn't access it because it was private

[random hinge]

Yeah, there's even Wisteria's mod that they prepared for the full release

[lapis tartan]

perhaps i should figure out how to mod

i like the white costume but the hair color isn't consistent with this version

time to fix that myself ig

[random hinge]

I can make that white costume for Kasumi if you guys want it

[lapis tartan]

I'd like that, especially if it also came with the long hair variant

[random hinge]

Wisteria's pre-release version added a lot of new costumes. I haven't done all of them because that would take a lot of time and the mod size would explode (I would need to make an addon to cut those so people don't need to download them if they don't care about them)

[lapis tartan]

makes sense

hmmm

where are the texture files stored

[random hinge]

Sure, I'd make the equivalent for the long hair variant

[cunning kelp]

I would love the white suit variants! just throwing my opinion out haha

[random hinge]

Textures for the model are stored in the models filess

[lapis tartan]

oh in the GMDs?

[random hinge]

Yes

[lapis tartan]

weird

alright time to boot up blender again

[lapis tartan]

it's not canon to the mod but tbh I like how it looks a lot more lol

[lapis tartan]

ig i'll need a tool to open the GMDs

since whatever Yakuza GMD tools I have probably won't work

[random hinge]

There's this tutorial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f8BiGTvCWY

[lapis tartan]

thanks

oh wow my blender version has been on 3.3 for like two years lol

anyways this should only take a second

if this is just a material swap

[random hinge]

Well... not exactly

[lapis tartan]

whats different about it?

[rich tree]

I just recently installed the beta rose mod and while I was already near the end of the run. I have to say I am already impressed with the mod and love the writing so far. I will be starting a ng+ run again today so ill post here if I find anything

great job so far though.

[random hinge]

There's quite a few things

First, Sumire and Kasumi don't have the same face

So you need to import Kasumi's face onto the white leotard version or do the other way around

Second, the materials contain the textures, but you need to be wary of:

• the material name
• the texture name

[lapis tartan]

I think i won't touch the mats, but I'll just change the textures referenced

[random hinge]

I should probably do it myself, I'm quite used to it

[lapis tartan]

mayhaps

this is just my quick fix until you do

[random hinge]

Also, Kasumi has a heart shaped leotard

So I need to edit the texture

[lapis tartan]

hmmm

maybe i'll just hold off then

[random hinge]

Also, her ribbon is white as well

[lapis tartan]

this is more invested than I have time for atm

[random hinge]

Yeah, that's a lot of work

[lapis tartan]

makes me miss Yakuza 0 modding, it was much simpler back then

[random hinge]

There are also some material weirdness (I don't if it's a the name or a property that's not transfered) that causes some textures to look weird (for a lack of a better term)

I have to manually fix it everytime

Yeah, it's probably easy for someone that's used to blender

I'm not. I only started to use Blender for those models

And I don't like blender

[lapis tartan]

i wouldn't say i'm not used to it, but I'm definitely not familiar with the Persona stuff

I mostly worked with Yakuza models

but in any event

i've got a lot of work to do atm so I don't have time for blender rn

[random hinge]

Don't worry, I'll do those models for the next update

[small salmon]

Hey Zylvos, I finished the Kamoshida arc with Rose & Violet and, once again, your mod is so so good!

If you don't mind a bit of feedback, there's this one minor thing that's been bothering me a little: in the mod's rewrites, Kasumi refers to Kamoshida as "Kamoshida-sensei" even though the English version chose to switch the Japanese honorifics for English ones, so Kamoshida would be referred to as "Mr Kamoshida" in the English text and VO. The first time I saw it it felt a little weird, especially since, the rest of the time the mod blends perfectly with the original text, so this comes off as a little inconsistent.

In the end, i think it's a problem with the English version in general where, for some reason, it will still use the -san or -kun honorifics but replace sensei by "Mr".

Anyways, just wanted to give my two cents about this little consistency problem (which might be bothering me only), hope this is not bothering you, love your mod and looking forward to play more!

[random hinge]

Thanks! No worries, feedback is always welcome!
I think I used "Sensei" like I used "Senpai" as a "noun". When used alongside the name, I remembered going back to "Mr. Kamoshida", "Ms. Kawakami", etc, so it may be a leftover. Do you remember vaguely where you say that "Kamoshida-sensei"?

If you don't, that's okay. I should be able to find it using Notepad++

[small salmon]

I thought I’d taken a screen but turns out I didn’t :/
I do remember that I encountered at least one during a dialogue choice though, don’t know if that helps

[random hinge]

Hum.. I can't seem to find it. I've actually found one from a NPC, but nothing in dialogue choices. Do you remember if it was before the start of the palace infiltration (after the "prologue"), during it, or after ?

It could just be Kasumi calling him "Sensei" on a few occasions

[random hinge]

Is it that kind of dialogue?

Also, I've actually used "sensei" a few more times, but not necessarily for teachers. In the base game, there's one occurence of "Kamoshida-sensei" as well as a few "Mifune-sensei" and "Madarame-sensei" (it's mostly Yusuke saying it)

But in regard to dialogue choices, I've used "Sensei" for Kamoshida a few times, Kawakami and two others confidants (but I won't say who, ahah)

[lapis tartan]

lol

i forgot he does this

[small salmon]

Ok so now I’m seriously thinking that I probably got confused or misread this line
Well sorry about this, it seems I made a fuss for no reason

[random hinge]

All good! Like I said, feedback is welcome and I remembered using Kamoshida-sensei at some point so I thought I forgot to edit one.

[jagged dome]

Which, Kasumi would say

[rapid mural]

I actually like Sensei. Someone can still be "Mr" after you find out they are a terrible person, but you won't still call them sensei after finding out they have a "Hentai Castle"

(It actually hurts sometimes to see Yusuke struggle with that one with Madarame)

[bright hawk]

royal spoilers||the audio for the maruki headshot scene is a little bugged and/or the scene lags behind a little||

[silver lagoon]

Just wanted to double check, current plan is to just do bug fixes and not any big changes, right? Just wanted to see if I should wait for the official release or if I can jump in now. And do you already have plans on what you wanted to implement after the official release?

[bright hawk]

mod spoilers time (full mod, all the way through the true ending)
sorry for wall, but i wanna share thoughts
||this unironically has to be one of my personal favorite mods i have EVER played. I like modding games, but for the non almost separate games mods, this is one of if not my personal favorites, and by far my favorite way to enjoy persona! ik the polish isn't fully there, i signed up for a public beta after all! still, it doesnt matter. there are so so so so many changes from the most minor of dialogues that not only sell a female protagonist, but that kasumi yoshizawa survived and may not not be fully thriving but is here and going on a journey we're joining her for!
I've discussed the Twist™️ that this mod adds to the story and how i liked it before, so ill add this: the ending is great! i love how ann, sumire, and futaba all mention that they thought she died when she didn't appear outside the palace. i also like how it wasn't till we return to leblanc that we get the answer. my kasumi, for example, was convinced via the video that resetting maruki's reality would kill her. even i was worried up until then that the ending would address this differently and actually have her die. i didnt think she would (mainly of mod desc stuff- giving her an ending indicates she lives) but like, it was still a relief to get the proof.
Now the other part of the ending: the sumire epilogue! That was really sweet! It really shows how they grow and leaves it up in the air where Kasumi goes from there!
A lot of the the other Sumire dialogue is really sweet as well! 5/12 and 11/23 come to mind in particular (the disguise thing is really cute and funny- I thought there was gonna be a twist there lol).
Part 1 of ?? I dont have discord nitro lol||

spoilers cont
||The beach portion was super fun and also sold how its Kasumi! Tho it's funny to watch the anime scene and then have it play again right after in game lol.
I really like the player dialogue! Kasumi's personality really gets to shine and you can clearly feel the mask of politeness collapsing at times in order to show off her more aggressive side!
Oh when I discussed Sumire i forgot the SL! The changes there were perfect in selling what happened to Sumire with a bit of foreshadowing I imagine I won't catch until later playthroughs!
Overall, this is a fucking fantastic mod with so much cool shit! I haven't really touched the UI and more visual/gameplay side and I've already had so much to talk about! It's all really nice! Thanks so much for making this mod!||

[bright hawk]

ok based on what i know its bugfixes but im not the mod creator lol. i think maybe they're considering more romances but those are tough! besides a lot of typos the mod is pretty much complete!

[dull pulsar]

really?
never really notice
cause im using alt variant of the white leotard

[dull pulsar]

could you make the white leotard have a different glove?

[lapis tartan]

you mean like it being white instead of red?

[dull pulsar]

white would be too much

like
yellow or blue?

tho red is also fine

something to contrast well with violet

[lapis tartan]

I see

could make them black

that contrasts with the white

imo it'd be better than yellow or blue

[dull pulsar]

that work
if zylvos wanna do it

[lapis tartan]

my years of swtor coloring outfits is paying off

[lapis tartan]

I was gonna use it but the red hair rather than brown was kinda jarring to me

that and other differences that zylvos pointed out

i'll just stick to the default for this playthrough

[dull pulsar]

i see

never really notice the difference (mainly cause i rarely pay attention to detail)

[lapis tartan]

I like details

[left knoll]

i know this has probably been asked a bunch of times but i'm kinda new to modding and i don't know where else to ask: is this mod compatible with the microsoft store version of the game?

yeah i kinda answered my own question, bonus tweaks only works on the steam version so that kinda throws a wrench in the whole thing

oh well, unfortunate

[dull pulsar]

i might be wrong
but isnt most mod here only work for the steam variant?

[lapis tartan]

thats how it works for most games no?

[dull pulsar]

idk man
most game usually only have 1 variant or work across variant

[left knoll]

yeah but the microsoft store version is weird because it has more aggressive drm so most modders just don't bother with it

oh well i guess i'll just pick the game up on steam when it goes on sale there

[lapis tartan]

its a good habit anyways

plus the its fairly affordable afaik

i bought it for full price so I dunno the lowest it's gone

[dull pulsar]

lowest i seen is like
60% discount

[lapis tartan]

not great ig

[rich tree]

i've bought persona 5 royal twice on my switch before i sold it and now on pc so I could mod it

sold the switch i prefer pc gaming and my pc runs a switch emulator better then the console itself

and I can mod switch games easier

[rich tree]

I run metaphor through the microsoft store now that its on there and I run persona 3 reload on the microsoft store. I have had zero issues getting reloaded to work for both games the mods load just fine. Reloaded warns you that it may or may not work but so far I have had zero issues

[lapis tartan]

trvth nvke

even my steam deck runs switch games better than the switch does

[dull pulsar]

isnt like
switch's spec is far below industry standard?

[lapis tartan]

yeah

nintendo's been behind since the wii

gamecube was the last competitor

[dull pulsar]

soo
the only reason a lot of people still buy it cause of the brand name?

[lapis tartan]

pretty much

nintendo has all of its brands and will never license them to another console

unlike sony and xbox which have given up on that idea

[dull pulsar]

damn

[rich tree]

you want a laugh the switch 2... simply emulates all the switch 1 games

to quote make it backwards compatable problem is its emulating them so they tend to run poorly compared to a better made emulator

botw in 4k 60 fps is a damn pretty game

can't get that on the console it would melt

i give it 3 or 4 months we will see a working switch 2 emulator

hell people are already hacking the damn thing

and its barely been out

[dull pulsar]

wont you get sue for hacking switch 2?

[lapis tartan]

it's possible

nobody's had the funds to stand up to nintendo yet

[rich tree]

they said the same thing for switch

i know a few got sued for emulators

but none for hacking the console

the biggest scare tactic is that they can just brick your console now if you hack it

[lapis tartan]

tbh unless a switch 2 emulator runs better than the first I see no reason to even care atm

[rich tree]

but honestly thats never stopped anyone

[dull pulsar]

brick?
they know your house?

[lapis tartan]

i'm too scared of any modern games to play any

[dull pulsar]

and gonna throw brick on your console?

[rich tree]

i havent seen enough new stuff on switch 2 that has impressed me enough to care about a switch 2 emulator

[lapis tartan]

means you can't boot it anymore

[dull pulsar]

da hell?

isnt that illegal?

[lapis tartan]

no

[rich tree]

you sign an agreement that they can simply brick your console if they detect any hacking

[lapis tartan]

they have a terms of service you agree to

[rich tree]

simple language keep the damn thing offline

[dull pulsar]

bruh

[lapis tartan]

man p4 remake was not a good thing to announce when I'm doing exams lol

[rich tree]

or at least not connected to nintendo

p4 remake is a year plus out id wager

and its not like the og p4g is unplayable

[lapis tartan]

I'm not so worried about the game itself

[rich tree]

see thats why i emulate switch

i can just drag and drop mods

nintendo doesnt know shit and i dont risk the console

[lapis tartan]

but since P4 is my 5th favorite game ever, I'm apprehensive at the notion of a remake

It'll probably be fine like P3 remake was

[rich tree]

im kinda 50/50 on a p4 remake its 3rd or 4th on my favorite list

[lapis tartan]

but because I like P4 much more I'll be scrutinizing it heavily

[rich tree]

on the one side it shuld make modding it easier

i know that og p4g is a pain in the royal ass to mod

its nintendo

this shouldnt be a shock

[lapis tartan]

I'll grant that

[rich tree]

i mean in theory even microsoft and sony dont want you hacking there consoles but there not anal about it

[lapis tartan]

if theres any script changes to the new one, I imagine the old changes can easily be modded back in

though I think the aesthetic will be lost either way

[rich tree]

its not yellow enough >.>

we need a yellow tint reshade stat on release lol

HA

[lapis tartan]

P4 reminds me of Mario Party 8 graphically so it has a lot of nostalgia for me

[rich tree]

im sorry that might be one of the funniest comments ive read lately

[lapis tartan]

because they are

[rich tree]

they are the most un friendly company around

[lapis tartan]

sony was pretty nasty until they gave up

now its nintendo's turn

[rich tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhVtdUohw44

oh dude nintendo is so much worse

adult playing cards.... yakuza love hotels

they have had there had hands in a lot of crap

[lapis tartan]

evil

and more importantly

they don't even make good stuff anymore

[rich tree]

money

[lapis tartan]

children exist

[rich tree]

and there more or less the only ting keep japans economy from exploding

the parents don't know

[left knoll]

but yeah uhh we're probably getting a bit off topic here let's take this to general chat maybe?

[lapis tartan]

I was about to say

[rich tree]

yeah >.<

[lapis tartan]

don't want to clog up the channel that should have bug reports instead

speaking of which

idk if i want to start a new playthrough with this mod immediately

[rich tree]

eh im going back to my new run I finished my old run and have the mods installed

[lapis tartan]

i kinda want to wait for the update

so i can use the white outfit

[left knoll]

my rule of thumb is that you should always start from scratch if you're playing a new mod, too much whiplash otherwise

[rich tree]

is there a way for me to use metaverse outfits in the open world

theres a few id love to wear all the time

[lapis tartan]

i had my NG+ ready to go in this case so it was no problem for me

[lapis tartan]

need a mod for that

[dull pulsar]

i remember someone once accidentally used their metaverse outfit instead of school uniform outside

but i dont remember who and how

[rich tree]

in my case i kinda installed rose and violet mid jan 3rd semester

[dull pulsar]

and i dont remember if zylvos or wisteria helped him fix it

[rich tree]

i just uninstalled the mod for a day to finish that run

[lapis tartan]

kinda tempting though since the first half of the game is my favorite

[dull pulsar]

me looking at my 3 unfinished save file

[rich tree]

so is thee a mod that does that?

i have looked on google just not sure what to look for

[lapis tartan]

makes me wish the rest of the game was like it

oh well

[dull pulsar]

question
is violet's metaverse outfit suppose to have tied hair or not?

[lapis tartan]

depends if you're using the long hair version or not

i use that one so its the same hairstyle as in the real world

[rich tree]

i prefer her long hair so i run that mod so i wouldn't know

[dull pulsar]

uhm
i was using the sumire overhaul mod that change her overworld hair to untied
but her metaverse outfit (in the first introduction to violet in october), her hair is tied

[lapis tartan]

probably because sumire still ties her hair even when ||she goes back to long hair in the real world||

in the base game

[dull pulsar]

probably

eh
it's probably only for like
1 or 2 combat

sadly the next instance of violet is in 3rd semester

[lapis tartan]

yeah seems kinda like a waste

could've at least had her for ||shido|| especially since she offered

[dull pulsar]

and there no way to have violet earlier

[dull pulsar]

sadly early violet mod is not supported

would be cool if it did

[lapis tartan]

i don't think I'd use it tbh

[silver lagoon]

any mods thats not listed in required that ppl suggest to play with the overhaul mod? I have never looked into persona modding so not sure if there are any other good mods or if i should just stick with the bare minimum for a smoother run

[lapis tartan]

I'd rather have more instances of ||akechi|| on the team

[lapis tartan]

i'll see if I have some QoL stuff

[dull pulsar]

im technically always play all female team
so having violet earlier would be nice
but i already have panther, queen and noir anyway

[dull pulsar]

progressive arsene if you wanna use anastesie after the tutorial

[lapis tartan]

I got Customizable Merciless, Progressive Arsene, Raidou DLC Restoration, Shut Up Sae, Audio MIx Contro, Yakuza Outfits,

and a few more

depends how much you want to customize it

[dull pulsar]

customizable merciless
progressive arsene (heavily edited)
timeless twin outing
always rank up (disabled most of the time)
nego cheat sheet
the mod for chalk throw and crafting

[lapis tartan]

i've found negotiations to be worthless in NG+

so i don't bother with that

[dull pulsar]

good for you

[lapis tartan]

i wish the mod that got rid of text box clicking didn't mess up my audio

because that one is nice

[silver lagoon]

progressive arsene sounds nice, suggested load order for that one?

[lapis tartan]

just put it above all the required mods

like so

man i should get rid of always rankup

that mod isn't that helpful

or more accurately, it's too helpful

[dull pulsar]

i only use it on specific situation

disabled most time

[lapis tartan]

smart

I wish speak your mind worked with this

that'd be my ideal

P4 is my ideal since its focused on character interaction

and i can't emulate that here if i just speed through the social links

[dull pulsar]

i mostly follow a guide
and only enable "always rank up" when i suppose to rank up on specific date

[lapis tartan]

i don't need a guide since i just ignore certain links

[dull pulsar]

lol

[lapis tartan]

ok idk if this is a bug for this mod or the voice one

but

i'm on the last day and ||when sumire shows up to say bye||, the audio just switches to english

[random hinge]

You can jump in now if you want to. I might do some light edits here and there to fix typos or weird sentences, but nothing too major for now. Male romances will take me a while to make so it'll be after release

[lapis tartan]

no rush but when were you thinking about getting the new update with the white outfits out?

[random hinge]

Yeah, that's normal because I didn't think people would play with japanese audio, ahah. I can either remove those lines or try something with the localisation framework, though I'm not sure exactly how this will work

[rapid mural]

P4Golden landed into my world for free along with strikers.

I get you.

I played strikers for maybe 4 minutes then realized I p4 was fine but strikers would spoil another game.

Love P4.

Chie is my favourite.

[lapis tartan]

i feel about 4 the same way a friend feels about Silent Hill 2

and he was very angry with the SH2 remake

[random hinge]

I've made one of four models needed yesterday. I also want to fix the typos that were reported so I can update everything. I'd say, by the end of this week

[lapis tartan]

oh nice

i'll play strikers in the meantime

since i never ended up finishing that

then I can come back for round 2

[lapis tartan]

i'm probably in the minority with my preference for the JP audio so please take as much time as you need for that

||also it'll be another two weeks before i get back to the end of the game anyways||

[random hinge]

It's kept tied because Sumire overhaul kept it like that. I've been considering giving her the long hair, but I'd need to edit the dialogue bustups (there's a lot of them) and I don't think all the cutscenes in the metaverse will work nicely with her long hair

[rapid mural]

not a big fan of the combat style, but I really appreciate the storyline.

I also understand why it works the way it does.

no spoilers but there were some great moments for every phantom thief.

[lapis tartan]

Yeah koei tecmo doesn't inspire confidence

Though I heard it goes a long way add actual character interactions

So i suppose it'll redeem P5 to me

Since it was sorely lacking character moments like 4 had

[rapid mural]

there's normally only a handful of us.

[lapis tartan]

I find honorifics kinda jarring to hear in english

[random hinge]

Making alternate colors for outfits put me in a difficult position : If I start doing it, people are going to request them all the time and I'm going to be spend my whole time doing them. The model mod will be bloated with recolors that most people won't use anyway.
I'm sorry, but my stance on that is going to be : make the recolors yourselves if it's for your personal use.
I don't mind making a Kasumi version of an outfit in Wisteria's mod if people really want it, but that's it

[lapis tartan]

And in any event I'm used to the JP voices so I'm not changing

[rancid falcon]

Texture edits are pretty easy to make once you know what to do.

[lapis tartan]

I imagine so

Makes me wish though you just had to edit a .dds like other games

[dull pulsar]

i see

[dull pulsar]

that's fine

[granite wren]

Is there a Kasumi version of the Yunaka costume? I think I saw there's one for Aerith, I forget if there was for Yunaka

[lapis tartan]

I think also it makes sense to keep it that way since it's tied in the base game even after ||she reverts to being sumire||

[rich tree]

seem to have a problem with Cendrillon shes red no matter which option I use in the kasumi as protag mod configure

i was hoping to have the normal white and blue one

[dull pulsar]

there is a yunaka outfit for rose in wisteria's mod

[granite wren]

Oh there's a working Rose version? Perf

[stoic scroll]

little missight, happens when you talk to him to join the party

[random hinge]

You mean the protag persona or Sumire's Cendrillon ? The protag persona that replaces Arsene is red Cendrillon by default in Rose & Violet. I don't have the option to make it blue

[random hinge]

Oh, I might have missed that one. I'll check when I get home, thanks for the report

[rapid mural]

oh I was talking about the subtitles not the audio!

I am a super fast reader.

So I prefer to have the audio language be A: the original non english. or B: non english because I read so fast its like everything is repeated if the audio is in english.

[tidal glacier]

called it😂

[granite wren]

Tbf I dunno why people find that to be a surprise
To run Gamecube games natively the Wii basically contained a whole-ass Gamecube inside itself
If they did that for the Switch 2 it wouldn't be portable anymore

Sony did the same with early PS3s emulating the PS2 and nobody complained then

[lapis tartan]

I'm the same way too

[rich tree]

Ah ok I was just confused if I installed something wrong. good to know I didn't screw up. Keep up the amazing work this mod is amazing.

[stoic scroll]

no problem

[random hinge]

I'm glad to see you've enjoyed my mod so much! Thank your for sharing your thoughts and for your feedback, I really appreciate it!
||And I'm also very happy someone noticed the mask of politeness. It's her way to blend in and try not be seen like a delinquent, like Joker and his glasses.||

[solar igloo]

This made me almost choke on my food aha...

[rapid mural]

I can't comment on any if the spoiler stuff cause I am blissfully ignorant.

But After you have a solid Final version of Rose and Violet I encourage you to keep writing!

If not as a coder just as a writer.

Although Strikers or P4 Golden would be the two projects I would choose as a coder.

P4 as it has several mysterious characters and I believe a lot of great modding tools. I also believe nobody has ever done a story overhaul for it before.

Strikers because due to it being developed at the same time as royal it's a sequel to original p5.

But I don't know if it is text mod friendly at all

TLFR:

Just keep writing. Even if its privately for yourself.

You deserve a rest after R and V final so take it. but keep writing:) you have so much talent!

[rapid mural]

THANK YOU!!!!! I dont know if its because I spent 100s of hours with Velvet Crow(Rina Sato voices her and Makoto) but I dated Makoto in my 285 hour playthrough and was dreading this because I am still enchanted by Makoto somehow.

My Kasumi(Ryoma) is dating Ann so this scenario feels much better.

(to be honest whether they had gone this way for people with someone already or even the fake boyfriend it could have been written better in original p5r)

[novel echo]

I love JP voiceover and play with it instead of dub when possible, so I hope the mod will be fully playable in JP, even if some audio will have to be cut

[rapid mural]

IT IS!!! I play it in JP!

[novel echo]

Then what was that about audio switching to EN near the end?

[random hinge]

Yeah, it's the new events I've added. I've reused one or two full voicelines in english, but the rest uses the small lines that are used in confident or unvoiced dialogues

I can remove those voincelines and replace them, it's not a big deal

[novel echo]

Ah, got it, cool! Thank you for your work, it does look monumental

[lapis tartan]

I think this mod was quite good and gave me a reason to care about Sumire as a character

and also it was a fun way to play a games i've 100%'d twice in a new way

that's my review of the mod

time to play strikers until the next update comes out

[rapid mural]

Something that is very subtle but really nice is the little touches that says the world sees Kasumi.

Whether it is snide comments from a villain or chatter from a npc, there's a lived in feel to the world that makes it clear Kasumi is not just a woman but a capable one.

Makes it worth to explore the same secrets as before:)

[rapid mural]

THIS.

[lapis tartan]

yeah I like the subtleties of it

and tbh I didn't care for the beta femc mod when I tried it

not enough politeness

so this was a great alternative for me

dang i don't even remember where I left off in strikers

and the menu buttons are different

what the heck

i think i should just restart the game

i don't remember at all what's going on

nvm that sounds like too much work

[rapid mural]

I think there might be a summary.

[lapis tartan]

i looked at wikipedia

sounds like i didn't miss much

[rapid mural]

hahahhaa

[lapis tartan]

i only did the first boss iirc

[rapid mural]

Ohh!!! then you havent started the road trip yet? dont talk to sojuro yntil you talk to everyone first

[lapis tartan]

i did start it

since i'm in sendai now

[rapid mural]

ah

[lapis tartan]

and my last save left off there

two years ago

[rapid mural]

If you don't see Yusuke have an epic moment talking to someone please look it up on youtube later

its an amazing scene!

[lapis tartan]

man these controls suck

[acoustic solar]

Was playing through Okumura's Palace and found this missight while trying to find the Chief Director.

[random hinge]

Nice catch, thanks for the report!

[acoustic solar]

You're welcome! I have been really enjoying this mod so far and i can't wait for the final release!

[lapis tartan]

i now remember why i dropped this game in the first place

[elder kraken]

any incompatibilities with this mod? https://gamebanana.com/mods/469479

i plan to use this on my next playthrough because the intro does not need to be nearly an hour long

[random hinge]

Seems like there are incompatibilies with Custom Bonus Tweaks

What you could do is play with this mod only until the end of the prologue

And then enable the Rose & Violet / Kasumi as Protagonist stuff after

If the goal is to skip stuff, might as well do it like that instead of trying to make things compatible

[elder kraken]

oh whatever i guess i'll just sit on the fast forward button

[kind shell]

Soery if mentioned. Kinda a nothing problem but

On 6/11 where the group sees Kasumis room for first time. Ryuji says "See ain't this crazy" with the English voice also saying that line. Thennn after Ryuji says "This ain't a girls room...it ain't even a room at all" but he repeats the "see ain't this crazy" voice line. Again not really that important but thought I'd just mention for a misc thing

[rich tree]

honestly as spastic as ryuji is even if that is a glitch id leave it... it kinda fits him

[kind shell]

Ain'tttttt that crazy

[acoustic solar]

I found a typo.

[random hinge]

Oh, yeah. I copied the previous line to write the next one, but I forgot the change the voice line. Thanks for the report, this will be fixed

[random hinge]

Thanks for the report, I'll fix this for the next update as well

[stuck cloak]

Hi, am I right to assume that "negotiation cheat sheet" would be incompatible with this?

[jagged dome]

HE SAID THE THING

I have a question

||does the Jade Wind Necklace do anything?||

Nvm

[rich tree]

im not even sure what that is... and I have a few hundred hours in the game

[lapis tartan]

I'm about to hit 300 hours and I've never heard of that

[jagged dome]

Wait, you guys didn’t get that event?

||the Kichijoji one after the talk show with Akechi||

[jagged dome]

wrong bustup

Wait, that’s just her hair

Wait no

Idfk anymore

[rich tree]

uh im confused as all hell right now

[floral hill]

Slight typo for comforting Haru.

Happens to everyone time to time.

[tidal glacier]

Wisty said they didn’t wanna make a new bust up just for this scene so they reused the bikini

If that’s what you meant

[lapis tartan]

I reported this one already

[dull pulsar]

you mean the typo on tough or right?

[lapis tartan]

oh what

theres two in there

i only noticed righ

[floral hill]

Funnily enough I only noticed tough and then rig

Very silly.

[rapid mural]

One can always headcanon that she has her bikin top resting on her neck..

Because due to bein a famous model she has gotten used to throwing it on immediately after leaving the bath as sometimes reporters sneak in.

Or they're headphone cords

[rapid mural]

I like that one. Very Kotone.

[tribal anvil]

Got another typo here, looks like it's missing an apostrophe s at the end of Kamoshida

[dull pulsar]

is playing with a joycon easier than keyboard

[autumn elbow]

It depends on preference I guess. I prefer controller with these types of games but bg3 its easier on keyboard for me

[tribal anvil]

I play with an xbox controller for this game.

[gloomy burrow]

i do prefer controller for this game

[tribal anvil]

It makes sense, P5 was a PS3 game so it's only natural it was built in controllers in mind. Meanwhile games like BG3 and Minecraft were on PC first, so they were made with keyboards in mind

[spare oak]

the controller experience for bg3 is so horrid besides the ability to move without having to click

[lapis tartan]

only use kb+m for fps and strategy games

no other reason to use them

[rich tree]

I only use keyboard and mouse for FPS games 99% of my gaming is on a controller

[random hinge]

Yes, but you can use it. I've made very basic edits to those dialogues so it's not a huge loss

[rapid mural]

Steam has a excellent controller remapper.

If you want to use your own, Joy2Key is the BEST controller program out there period. but again, you likely own this on Steam:)

Joy2Key gave me their program for free because I am disabled and I don't evn use it no more.

i prefer a ps3 style controller though

[dull pulsar]

i see

[rapid mural]

(when i say remapper i mean you can program any key on the keyboard to your controller. some people prefer that even if a game HAS controller support)

[lapis tartan]

ok i played 15 hours of strikers today

and finished the game

i may have wasted my day

[kind shell]

Didn't like it?

[lapis tartan]

i liked some of it

rectified a lot of the criticism i had for P5 not having enough character interactions

though the gameplay was very tedious

story was meh too

anyways that was supposed to tide me over till the next update

i think i'm screwed

[lapis tartan]

I did like the original songs composed for it

Remixes were whatever though

[stuck cloak]

I figured. Alrighty, thank you!!

[stuck cloak]

I use rewasd, personally. Can reccommend.

[tidal glacier]

pacing was atrocious during endgame iirc

[lethal geode]

strikers is just kind of meh as a whole imo

great characters, uninspired story that falls flat with poorly executed sympathetic antagonists

I'm not really sure what they were thinking with the story rehash to be honest

[true thorn]

third semester incorrect use of gender (sorry for the incorrect pronunciation if anything)

[random hinge]

Oh, that one. Basically, it's not clear wether she's talking about their Dad or the protag

So I went with the Dad

[tidal glacier]

Harus antagonist was good imo, the rest, especially Alice, were poor

[rapid mural]

It would have been a much better game if they had kept it as turn based.

Every time I really started to enjoy it I dreaded having to fight because the combat was not enjoyable for me.

I am also not discounting your other complaints either.

It could have been much better.

[lapis tartan]

Ngl the story seemed like a retread of 5's base game story

[rapid mural]

I think the problem with Strikers is the devs got too into the thieves' personal moments over giving the antagonists/bosses more punch.

I don't know how to explain it.

But Ann's character moments make me almost completely forget the first antagonist. Versus in p5royal where she uses Kamoshida to grow and find her resolve move forward.

[rapid mural]

Yeah!!!

[lapis tartan]

Since I already dislike 5's plot it was just a slog to get through

Nice character moments aside

[rich tree]

I have to say this mod has made P5R feel like a new game again. something I thought wasn't possible

[lapis tartan]

truth nuke

now i just wait for a new update

so i can start round 2

[rich tree]

can honestly say I may never play P5R with out this mod again

[lapis tartan]

ngl me neither

since kasumi's arc otherwise is just kind of an imposition

to introduce the royal stuff

also, I think the third semester was handled a lot better in this mod

so imo, this is the better way to play royal

[rapid mural]

I keep saying its like finding a game you think you finished ten years ago.

And you start playing with that mixture of excitement over new stuff and delightful nostalgia over stuff you remember.

---

Same.

At the very least I am waiting until a major new update from the betafemc team before I play as her again. I think they have plans similar to a Kotone mod(updated social links and some dialogue)
---/---/////////

in Rose and Violet It's just so nice to walk around Japan and have people treat me as a normal woman.

or as cheating gymast woman but still a woman.

[tidal glacier]

it’s actually crazy we have 2 persona 5 royals

[lapis tartan]

true

[lapis tartan]

hmmm

what do i do while i wait

zylvos said we gotta wait until at least the weekend

[rich tree]

I would say if you can afford it or find it play persona 5 un modded og then play royal with this mod

bam

you get the story from both view points

i would wager good money most computers built in the last 3 to 4 years could emulate ps3 to run persona 5

[rich tree]

Either femc p3 reload or maybe a run of persona 4?

[lapis tartan]

p5 is no problem, just emulate it with RPCS3

[lapis tartan]

FEMC P3 Reload is not complete to my knowledge

and I don't think even I could beat P4 in a few days

much as I waste my days playing games

p4 sounds kinda tempting though

[rich tree]

FemC is in a pretty good spot right now