(P5R PC) Rose & Violet - Story overhaul

[lethal geode]

where are they located?

[random hinge]

p5rpc.kasumi.roseandviolet_beta\P5REssentials\CPK\EN.CPK\BATTLE\TALK

[lethal geode]

i'll try and take a look at them

true

there is a chance you're using an outdated ast library

[random hinge]

Yeah, I should add them back now. I was replacing your costume models 1 to 1 before, but now that's an option

The thing is with negotation dialogues

I've edited them with PersonaEditor

[lethal geode]

oh dear

[random hinge]

So there's no recompilation

[lethal geode]

im pretty sure there is

otherwise you'd be editing the raw hex data

what enemy was it specifically

and what personality type (if you know)

[random hinge]

Well, that would mean PersonaEditor uses different libraries from AtlusScriptToolchain

Which would be weird

[lethal geode]

its possible

[lunar falcon]

I mentioned it here because the Rose model is different from the Kasumi as Protagonist model, and there's unique music from I think P5S?

[random hinge]

PersonaEditor is the reason I've been able to edit 99% of the BF in the mod

[lethal geode]

thats from CBT

[lunar falcon]

ah

[random hinge]

Let's put it to the test

If you have a problem with the holdup music

[lethal geode]

by the way do you remember which enemy caused the holdup music bug

[lunar falcon]

it's happened on Jack-o-Lantern, Pixie, and Bicorn

only Bicorn has survived an AoA and the music stayed persisted bugged into normal combat

but the other two had the holdup music play during the AoA up until the results screen

it just happens sometimes, I think I was just mashing to do AoA ASAP when it happened

[lethal geode]

does it happen if you back out of the aoa prompt

[lunar falcon]

haven't tried

my load order is the same as the recommended in the download folder with the exception of pony tail haru at the bottom

[random hinge]

Well, I gotta go to bed, but if you guys want to test something
Try deleting or moving the files in this folder somewhere else (so you can put them back later)
p5rpc.kasumi.roseandviolet_beta\P5REssentials\CPK\EN.CPK\BATTLE\TALK
And try again to get the bug
If the bug persists, it's not Rose & Violet

[lethal geode]

Alright, I hope you sleep well

Although

before you go, I need to ask a quick question

did you edit the text content in the bfs only?

or did you edit any of the actual flowscript

[random hinge]

Only the text

[lethal geode]

okay good

if this is a bug with the bfs its an easy fix then

[naive aspen]

Does that mean that only text was changed or are there also event changes?

[random hinge]

Basically, I edited the BMD directly in the BF through PersonaEditor

[lunar falcon]

gonna go mash through combat for 15 minutes to see if I can repeat it without the folder you mentioned

[lethal geode]

lmao why are the text tags different in persona editor

[lunar falcon]

I'll also try it on other outfits to see if it's outfit related if it persists

[random hinge]

Yeah, it's terrible. You can't even edit the portraits or the voice lines, just what's in the text box

And you can't even add new lines

[lethal geode]

okay time to bully pixies

[random hinge]

But choosing between this or the 12 softlocks I got between the prologue and Kaneshiro's palace

[lethal geode]

well no bugs so far

[random hinge]

Alright, going to bed. I'm not overly attached to those files so I don't mind redoing them or just removing them for the time being

[lethal geode]

morgana im in battle

[lethal geode]

Goodnight!

[lunar falcon]

that's odd

I knew something felt off, now that I removed the folder, the hold up music starts later

so if I'm mashing the AoA button, the music never shifts

but with the folder, the holdup music plays earlier so it plays before the option to AoA appears

I'll double check to make sure I'm not just misremembering

[lethal geode]

not exactly

the aoa timing is varied (i dont know why) in vanilla

i was able to aoa before the music even switched over

and before the prompt appeared

does the holdup music play during the aoa

[lunar falcon]

yeah when the bug happens it persists through the AoA and replaces the battle music entirely

if the enemies survive the AoA, holdup music continues

it only goes away after the battle ends and the results music plays

[lethal geode]

unfortunately im too powerful on this save so i cant really test

well

actually i guess i could if i just go to another palace

[lunar falcon]

what about the tendrils

[lethal geode]

the tendrils?

[lunar falcon]

the NG+ will seed equipment

[lethal geode]

oh thats not ng+ exclusive

well i could try those actually hold on

[lunar falcon]

been a while since I played, I forgot you get to meet kiddo before the end

yeah I put the folder back in and it happened first try

while unlikely to be a variable, I am using parsec to play on another computer, but that computer is just a regular desktop running win10

[lethal geode]

yeah i dont imagine that causing any issues

[lunar falcon]

you're mashing on controller right

[lethal geode]

no im just using keyboard

[lunar falcon]

if you're on keyboard I can try mashing keyboard AoA to see if for some reason that's a difference

kk

what's the AoA for kb/m?

[jagged dome]

Right as the enemies get knocked down , mash the all out attack button

[lethal geode]

to be honest i dont even remember, its all muscle memory now 😛

i think its tab though

[lunar falcon]

yeah tab I'll see if I can cause it with KB/M

would be weird if it's a controller specific bug, but it's not unheard of

[lethal geode]

to be fair there's probably a much more reasonable (and boring) explanation if i cant reproduce it

[lunar falcon]

yeah it happens on KB/M too

it's 100% reproducable on my end by just mashing really fast

[lethal geode]

yeah i did the same and cant get it

[jagged dome]

Same

[lethal geode]

by any chance are you playing on an ssd or hdd

[jagged dome]

ssd

[lethal geode]

weird

i guess i'll keep trying then

[lunar falcon]

I'm on SSD

how fast are you mashing? I'm mashing at around 15 clicks per second

[lethal geode]

pretty much spamming tab before the enemy even gets knocked down

[lunar falcon]

I'm gonna reboot and remove the talk folder again

I'm also not using your two addon mods

[jagged dome]

What fps are you on?

[lunar falcon]

only the main Kasumi as Protag mod

I'm locked 60 because of parsec

[jagged dome]

I’m on 60 too

[lethal geode]

hmm yeah i cant do it

unless im doing it too fast 😅

[lunar falcon]

oops I forgot to try it on other outfits

[lethal geode]

it should be fine on other outfits

as long as they dont change the holdup music (i dont think any of them do)

is that how fast you're mashing it btw?

[jagged dome]

I don’t see the rush text

[lunar falcon]

I'm hitting the button 10-15 times a second

starting from when I hit the last enemy with WEAK

[jagged dome]

Yeah, basically when I see WEAK, I start mashing

[lunar falcon]

ok it occurs even without the TALK folder

and on other outfits

[lethal geode]

does it happen on vanilla

[lunar falcon]

yeah I'll try that

are you locked 60 fps?

Heartless and I are locked 60

[lethal geode]

i have around 120

[jagged dome]

Try on locked 60

[lunar falcon]

I can't try 120 because parsec

[jagged dome]

I can’t because my monitor is 60hz

[lethal geode]

no luck so far

[lunar falcon]

y'know I probably should've assumed I can't load R&V saves with vanilla

[lethal geode]

it should work

[lunar falcon]

odd, I was stuck in an infinite loading screen for 5 minutes

[lethal geode]

did you save with an outfit on anyone

[lunar falcon]

is it the forced name?

ah

yeah

[lethal geode]

yeah that would be why

[autumn elbow]

With only the mods added needed for Rose and Violet I have reached Kaneshiro's Palace with no noticeable bugs. Any bug had been my doing 😂it's running great for me.

[lunar falcon]

why the fuck did I give akechi the tendrils

first try nothing

FUCK I forgot that Haru has a grenade launcher

[lethal geode]

if it still keeps happening for some reason then i would recommend using this - https://gamebanana.com/mods/408638

[lunar falcon]

yeah I'll probably just yoink that

I can't seem to cause it in vanilla final dungeon

[lethal geode]

really strange bug

[lunar falcon]

I'll try final dungeon modded

I will say, I did notice that the CBT version available on gamebanana has a different author than the one shown in the load order example

and I wasn't able to find the one in Zylvos's load order

[lethal geode]

it does? it should just be deathchaos

[lunar falcon]

oh I'm stupid

I'm trying to do the bug on a heist day

oh no sorry, not CBT the costume framework

[lethal geode]

does it say ratkechi?

[lunar falcon]

I could only find the RyoTune one not Ratkechi

[lethal geode]

oh

ryotune is the latest version

zylvos has the outdated version

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

[lunar falcon]

you're running ryotune too right, so it's probably not that?

[lethal geode]

yeah

[lunar falcon]

god damnit why are all of my saves on heist days

can confirm, not kamoshida exclusive

vanilla time

yeah I can't get it to happen in vanilla

[lethal geode]

wweird

out of curiosity whats your full modlist?

[lunar falcon]

it happens regardless of the TALK folder, so according to zylvos Rose&Violet shouldn't be the issue

[lethal geode]

does it happen with r&v disabled?

[lethal geode]

yeah nothing there that should be causing it

[lunar falcon]

what about ponytail haru surely that's the issue

🙂

[lethal geode]

i would cry bcs i love that mod

[lunar falcon]

it's the only mod that isn't part of the recommended load order lol

[lethal geode]

its def not

[lunar falcon]

I'll try without R&V

[lethal geode]

i think its just bustup edits only

[lunar falcon]

it was a bitcoin miner all along

and that lag causes the BGM manager to shit it self

[lethal geode]

evil haru...

[lunar falcon]

never trust the 1%

the rich get richer

happens without R&V

I'll try without both R&V and Kasumi as Protag

[lethal geode]

strange

this is what the holdup music gets for being mid

[lunar falcon]

at least it's not a game breaking bug it's just

annoying

oh dear I sure hope I don't crash going into combat I'm still Kasumi because of the alternate models mod from Zylvos

ok nevermind I'm lost now

[lethal geode]

shouldnt crash since i think it'll just load my mod anyway

[lunar falcon]

why aren't my disabled mods, disabled

[lethal geode]

because dependencies are auto enabled when launching

disable alternate models and it'll be disabled

[lunar falcon]

alright disabling everything R&V + KasumiProtag related

yeah it's an issue with one of the base mods, unrelated to R&V + Kasumi

welp, guess I'll just remove holdup music

just out of curiosity, anything on my load order different from yours? Or just one of those "works on my machine" moments

[lethal geode]

dont think theres anything different

[lunar falcon]

classic

you also on win10?

[lethal geode]

yeah

[lunar falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/dean-winchester-supernatural-relatable-relatablemoods-gif-7719768255809338997

the only thing that comes to mind is that when you were mashing tab, you were triggering rush

that doesn't happen to me when I mash tab

you're still triggering AoA so it's probably nothing

but that's the only difference I can make out from what we're doing

[dull moth]

Is the standard outfit not showing up for anyone else? I only have the "Summer Break Clothes" and all the (Alt. model) options

[lethal geode]

Weird, is the black leotard not there at all?

[dull moth]

Nope

[lethal geode]

Do you have costumes enabled in kasumi as protag

[dull moth]

yes

[lethal geode]

hmm

to be honest im not sure but i think it has something to do with how zylvos set up the costumes

try and look for "Phantom Suit"

[dull moth]

None of the base game outfits exist, its just the Summer break clothes and a bunch of crossover stuff

[lethal geode]

thats even stranger

i dont think its adding my costumes

is costume framework's slot set to 1?

[dull moth]

it is

[lethal geode]

im not sure then

can you screenshot your modlist?

[lethal geode]

I guess just check if costume framework's author name is Ryotune

if it is then its up to date

this option also has to be enabled i think

[dull moth]

whoops that first image was not right

[lethal geode]

although weirdly enough i dont see cbt

ah there it is

try manually updating custom bonus tweaks

for some reason i never got an auto update prompt for it but its on 2.5.2 now

https://gamebanana.com/mods/432481

[dull moth]

OH

[lethal geode]

these options also have to be enabled in cbt

[dull moth]

oh dear - now that summer break clothes disappeared but nothing showed up

[lethal geode]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-stressed-cat-banana-cat-gif-15455068164842202481

can you send your reloaded log?

[dull moth]

Ignore the path where Reloaded lives, its just been there forever

[lethal geode]

oh i see the issue

why is CF failing to load

can you try dropping this into the kasumiasprotag mod folder and seeing if that fixes it

although from the looks of it its failing to load for cbt too

if that doesnt fix it then try redownloading costume framework suppose

[dull moth]

CF redownload fixed it!

Thank you so much

[lethal geode]

yay! im glad it wasnt anything more difficult 😛

yw!!

[queen leaf]

any ideas on why my AOA portraits aren’t showing up? like the 4 small portraits for each character

[median yoke]

Hi again, I noticed that the file that’re supposed to be copied are already present on the newer kasumprotag build lol. Shouldn’t be a problem yeah?

[dull pulsar]

spent 9 hrs just to reach the deadline of vanity

[lethal geode]

Yeah it should be fine

[thorn scroll]

i see i see! thank you for responding!

[jagged dome]

my game kinda bugged a bit

I’m floating

[dull pulsar]

FLOATING

[spare oak]

many such cases🙂‍↕️

[radiant plume]

normal day for a gymnast

[dull pulsar]

never experience it
but probably just me

[spare oak]

me neither but im also not surprised

[random hinge]

Yeah, uh, that can't be my mod this time, ahah

Also, I understand that the issue with the holdup music isn't because of my files, right? I may have missed it because I "Myriad Truth" the entire game for my testing run, so I didn't really bothered with hold ups. I'll try when I get home, just in case

[lethal geode]

it doesnt have to do with your mod or mine

happens even when they're disabled

[naive aspen]

This mod only changes text right? Or are there also event changes?

[spare oak]

yes event changes

[naive aspen]

Any big changes during the kamoshida arc? I want to make sure it’s working

[spare oak]

uhhh kinda

you should know if it works if they say rose in the casino prologue

[naive aspen]

It does but I was just trying to make sure cause with my computer luck all the cool changes don’t work

[spare oak]

there's no like game altering events besides one during the first exam week

[random hinge]

||When Kasumi and Sumire are in the train at 04/12, Kasumi is looking away at first and is startled when hearing Sumire's voice. She turns towards her afterwards.||

Don't worry though. If you have the text changes and you've disabled the Bf/BMD/events in Wisteria's mod like I showed in the image, you should get the edited events working

[dull pulsar]

well
i didnt expect that

ah yes
mod disconnect moment

[lyric willow]

is there a link to the mod in this chat?

there's so many messages it's swamped and i can't find it i've been scrolling back for ages

and it's not pinned either

nvm, found it finally

[tribal scroll]

for anyone else:

Zylvos

Rose & Violet - Beta 1
Here's a link to a google drive with the following subfolders:

• Rose & Violet - Story Overhaul : This folder contains the story overhaul mod.
• Model mods : This folder contains the model mods (ponytail and long hair variant). Just pick one. Note : ponytail is "canon".
• Addons : contains addons mods that are optional (Weapon and Equipment patch / Classroom cheat sheet / Confidant cheat sheet).

Remember to use Wisteria latest test build (Pre-release build 1 / Hotfix 2). You only need the main mod (not even the addon mod).

DO NOT USE THE MODEL FROM GAMEBANANA. IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH WISTERIA'S PRE-RELEASE BUILD.

These mods can be installed mid playthrough. However, I recommend starting a new playthrough (with or without NG+) to enjoy the full story.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cpFZisgX0PqGAvu2LipYZ1fk-YIziilB?usp=drive_link

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[lyric willow]

is it supposed to be drag and droppable over reloaded ii? it doesn't seem to install dragging the zip over it like other mods do

it also doesn't seem to acknowlegde the mod's existence even when extracting the zip file and manually putting it in the mods folder

nevermind i'm stupid, i figured it out

[lyric willow]

I did everything as the setup pdf said and i got this error

and the game crashes and doesn't start

oh loading the game a second time fixed it, lol

[lyric willow]

works like a charm!

thanks for all the effort you've put into this, it's amazing

[lapis tartan]

is this mod compatible?
https://gamebanana.com/mods/419845

i noticed it changed sis to senpai in sumire's text

[lethal geode]

probably not

[lapis tartan]

rip

i don't want to carry around all those extra personas though...

[tidal glacier]

You can use always rank up which just sets the flag to 0 (basically auto rank up)

[south shuttle]

my laptop says the beta is denied

[lapis tartan]

ok

[south shuttle]

nevermind, hopefully this hopes

[lapis tartan]

and that works different from speak your mind?

[tidal glacier]

Yes speak your mind just gives you the max points for per answer you say so without a persona it’d be no different from just using a guide with no persona bonus

Always rank up essentially turns all social links to the sun, always up

[lapis tartan]

ah

i suppose the downside of that though is social links will run out fairly quick

[tidal glacier]

You’re playing on ng+? Then that’s true lmao

At least you can better pace yourself in palaces if you have merciless multiplier

[lapis tartan]

true enough, especially when I know theres s. links I'll skip regardless

[lapis tartan]

I got customizable merciless for this reason

[tidal glacier]

Yes that’s what i meant oops

[tidal glacier]

Then unfortunately this is the best way

[lapis tartan]

i see

could be one of my other mods but this also happened

[jagged dome]

Could just be a text they didn’t change

[lapis tartan]

thats what I'm thinking too

since I'm pretty sure I eliminated any interfering mods

[tidal glacier]

Honestly forgot about dreams, I’d greatly doubt sumire overhaul and rose overhaul remembered it too

[dull pulsar]

wait
can the game text even handle special letter?

just a personal preference
but i kinda wanna change every instance of
"Rose" into "Rosé"

[buoyant arch]

i believe it can

words like naive have the ï

idk what it's called

[dull pulsar]

welp
time to learn how to edit the text

and change every single instance of Rose into Rosé

or not

cause this mod still in beta and may change a lot

[random hinge]

Yeah, I looked at the files and unfortunately it won't be compatible :/

[random hinge]

I remembered editing those, but I may have forgotten that one. I'll investigate, thanks for the report!

[small salmon]

Hey, I finished Kamoshida's arc yesterday (the mod is so awesome!) and I found a few typos that I think haven't been reported yet so here they are

[random hinge]

Thanks! These are new, yeah. What's not new is me forgetting words, ahah

[small salmon]

There are also those, not really typos though, the first one refers to Kasumi as a man and the second one still refers to Joker's glasses

Though not sure about the first one, since iirc you said that you wouldn't focus too much on negotiation dialogue

[thorn scroll]

we can't trust viscid rotting meat's eyesight to begin with /j

[random hinge]

Thanks, added as well!
For negotiation dialogues, I don't mind re-editing them, don't worry. Their file structure is a bit all over the place, but changing individual lines like that isn't difficult.

It's a bit more difficult to connect a protagonist answer choice to the shadow's answer, so I don't want to make too many edits to them or it's not going to make sense

[small salmon]

okay! then i'll let you know if i encounter more of them

[lofty fractal]

Yeah it has a efigs encoder (and different game languages do use those characters)

If you wanna change rose to rosé you could always use the unfortunately named tool PISS from modding resources - dump your game and tell it to change every instance of rose to rosé

[timid birch]

Funny coincidence one I had was the "I workout at the gym from hell"

Thought that was funny since ya know

[dull pulsar]

hmm
sound nice

guess i gonna dump the entire mod folder into it

[random hinge]

Well, I don't remember that one, but I'm definitely keeping it, ahah

[random hinge]

Yeah, be careful not to replace "I rose to the challenge", Rose flowers, "X rose in popularity" and the like

[lofty fractal]

Bonus tip that I wish I knew the first time I used it lol
Set the input and output folders to just that folder, it’ll delete any other folder and file in that folder/drive since it won’t find the word
rip to my desktop files

[dull pulsar]

wait
the tool auto change the name or do i still manually edit it?

[dull pulsar]

what?

[lofty fractal]

Oh yeah I guess you can’t really use it for that then
I forgot rose is a verb too

Unless you use it and then go manually through the leftover files to see which ones are the name and which ones aren’t but eh

[lofty fractal]

I dumped the game to my desktop
I had pictures and files from other things there
I set input and output to desktop
Everything that was on my desktop and didn’t have the word I was changing got deleted

[dull pulsar]

yeah
thats the problem

[dull pulsar]

that's sad
guess i just have to manually find every text file and manually check

[lofty fractal]

If there’s any mod that does something similar you could check what files get changed

[dull pulsar]

i mean
i guess i can just ask zylvos

tho it most likely still a massive file list

[random hinge]

Unfortunately, I don't have a list of files that contain "Rose" (or Joker) as a codename

I usually use Notepad++ search function to find the stuff I want in files

[dull pulsar]

back to opening every single instance of BMD/BF file of the mod and manually check

[random hinge]

Also, I don't think editing the BMD or BF files in Notepad++ is going to work

You'll need to decompile them, edit the text and recompile them properly

[dull pulsar]

AtlusScriptComplier moment i guess

[elder kraken]

sojiro rank 2

[dull pulsar]

damn

guess i seriously need to stop fast forwarding text and conversation

[random hinge]

It's not my mod, I edited all those lines

[random hinge]

Yeah, make sure you're using the latest release (17/03/2025)

[dull pulsar]

last time i try to run it

[random hinge]

Or you're not going to be able to edit BF files

[dull pulsar]

it just wont work

so i kinda still figuring out how to actually run it

[dull pulsar]

guess i have to recheck the version

[dull pulsar]

cause it just instanly close itself when i try to open it

[elder kraken]

Then what would cause it

I don't have anything installed other than what's necessary

[lethal geode]

because it's a command line tool

[elder kraken]

Well, I have progressive arsene installed

[lethal geode]

if you want a gui you need to use atlus script gui

[dull pulsar]

open it
when i click the "update compiler" option or whatever it called

it also auto close itself

[lethal geode]

wait so do you have the gui then

[random hinge]

Did you disable this?

[dull pulsar]

i have both the GUI and the command line

[elder kraken]

Yes, everything is configured to specification

[lethal geode]

it's probably crashing because if spaces in the file patch

[dull pulsar]

try to open command line
instantly close itself

[lethal geode]

those wouldn't cause it anyway 😛

[dull pulsar]

try using the GUI
manage to open
when linking to the command line
instantly close itself

[random hinge]

Send in your load order again then. You might another mod that edits E700_300.BMD

[lethal geode]

well you would have to ask in #1045463242765504552

[elder kraken]

One moment, I need to get to a save point

[lethal geode]

we can't help you with atlus script tools and this isn't the place to be troubleshooting it anyway

[lethal geode]

its probably confidant cheat sheet tbh

[dull pulsar]

lol
when your own mod dont fit with your other mod

[lethal geode]

...?

[elder kraken]

this would be hilarious

[lethal geode]

it was probably just an overlooked like, nothing more

[elder kraken]

considering the mods are meant to go hand in hand

[lethal geode]

it happens

i do not envy having to maintain like 2 separate text mods and then trying to keep parity between them and the base mod

[random hinge]

Did you have those kind of answers before the Sojiro line?

[lethal geode]

well it does look like it was changed in cheat sheet

so idk what would be causing it

[random hinge]

I made the confidant cheat sheet after the base mod

[lethal geode]

thats not exactly what i mean

[elder kraken]

no

[random hinge]

I forgot to finish my sentence. I meant : I did the cheat sheet after the main mod and this line was edited a long time ago

[lethal geode]

yeah but thats not what i mean

when i say i dont envy it, i mean i dont envy having to keep parity whenever you do need to make changes to the base mod

since you'll have to port them over manually

700_300 has issues with merging for some reason but if you can move these to BMD emulator I would recommend it, i think you would only need to include the selection options which would make maintaining these much, much easier

[random hinge]

Yes, I was also going to mention that. Any further changes I've since then, I've done in both mods. It's a bit annoying, but I can live with it :/

Yeah, I don't have an easy way of testing the dialogues in E700_300

If something broke, I wouldn't know it unless I try to trigger those dialogues in a normal playthrough

[lethal geode]

700_300 craps itself when edited with bmd emulator for some reason

its not that the dialogue options would break its more like the entire thing would break

[dull pulsar]

that sad

[random hinge]

I've never had issues with though. It really heavily on flags to trigger specific parts of it, so unless you mess with those, it should play normally

[lethal geode]

from what ive seen it just ends up calling completely unrelated dialogue

[random hinge]

I'll have a look later today. I'll try to trigger the Sojiro dialogue

[lethal geode]

i made a single dialogue edit with bmd emulator for 700_300 and people were having random issues with post-rankup scenes like the text being in japanese

that being said if you're just using the fully compiled bmd i dont see why it wouldnt be working here

[lyric willow]

I'm sure this has already been reported but at the start of the game on the lower floor toilets, the girls' toilets has text referring to it as the boys'

the floor above's text refers to the toilets accurately though

[random hinge]

It's on the first day? Like 04/11?

[dull pulsar]

that
WWWWW

[lyric willow]

yep, just after the first castle segment

[random hinge]

Alright, I'll have a look as well

[dull pulsar]

did the early game text use a completely different text file or what?

[random hinge]

In a nutshell, yes and no

Sometime it does, sometime it's all in the same file

And there are separate files for each floor of Shujin, since those are different fields

[dull pulsar]

i see

[random hinge]

It's working as it should on my end, so it's the files themselves

Now to figure out why it's not working for you

[random hinge]

Do you still have a save before that Sojiro dialogue? So we can test things

[dull pulsar]

idk if it suppose to stay like this
but that somehow dont look like anything rose would say

[elder kraken]

Yes but I'm currently not home

Give me 30 min

[random hinge]

Yeah, I haven't edited that text chat. There's barely anything in it

I could put "I have his name!", but that's it

[elder kraken]

i have time

[random hinge]

Alright, let's a direct approach

First, disable Sumire overhaul and try again

[elder kraken]

Working on it

[elder kraken]

'no change

[random hinge]

Alright, that was just to remove one loose end

[elder kraken]

re-enable sumire overhaul?

[random hinge]

Not for now

[elder kraken]

alright

[random hinge]

Go to Wisteria's mod folder

And go to those two folders:

p5rpc.kasumiasprotag-PRE-RELEASE1.03-HF1\OptionalModFiles\Flowscript\Bath\CPK\EVENT_DATA\MESSAGE\E700
p5rpc.kasumiasprotag-PRE-RELEASE1.03-HF1\OptionalModFiles\Flowscript\Bath\BMD\EVENT_DATA\MESSAGE\E700

[elder kraken]

one moment

need to dig through the file system

since reloaded doesn't open the mod folder despite the button to do so being there

[elder kraken]

what to do with these?

[random hinge]

Alright, delete the files with "E700_300" in them

There should be a .msg and a .BMD

[elder kraken]

deleted

[random hinge]

Alright, try again

[elder kraken]

will do

[elder kraken]

'works

re-enable sumire overhaul?

[random hinge]

Okay, so re-enable Sumire Overhaul

and

[elder kraken]

and?

[random hinge]

Are you sure you disabled that

[elder kraken]

where was this again?

[random hinge]

Configure for Wisteria's mod

[elder kraken]

guh it re-enabled iself

fixed that

[random hinge]

Alright, nice!

Just so you know, I made you delete the optional files for that dialogue that were in "Flowscript and BMD"

You don't need to add them back for now

They'll be back if you update that mod to a new test build or with the release version

Just letting you know, in case you decide to play without Rose & Violet

[dull pulsar]

damn

[elder kraken]

what

what part is that

[random hinge]

It's already in the base game

||When you discuss there other sport teacher with him, the "mini-Kamoshida". That's what happens when you say "mini-Ryuji"||

[elder kraken]

oh lmao

[rapid mural]

"There is Great Wisdom in You, Despite that adorable Bow you wear"

"What's wrong with my Hairbow"

"Nothing I"

Ryujii: "Ramen?"

Or Morgana could say something like he sees great wisdom tied beneath the Hairbow.

There's a lot of really fun ways to change that line!

I will try to be better at not missing typos myself. I am used to spacing them coming from the Betfemc mod but I will keep an eye out.

[rapid mural]

Kasumi in the r and v is a unique experience compared to Betfemc.
Not that Kasumi can't be or isn't a bit genderqueer themselves, It just would manifest differently. (kind of like me now vs me over 10 years ago when I was possibly more gq than now but dressed like Kasumi.)

TLFR: Coding is a Beautiful Dance of Math.

Rose and Violet are wonderful Dance Partners and Zylvos is a fantastic Dance Instructor.

It's been a unique experience playing R&V and I see myself replaying it too.

[rapid mural]

Honestly, I always preferred "kid" better. It makes more sense for him to be weird about calling kids.

[lethal geode]

they shouldn't be, I deleted it a few builds ago

[random hinge]

Oh, well I think we were both using an outdated build anyway

[lapis tartan]

i presume ann talking about inviting kasumi for crepes isn't actually supposed to be a new event?

[random hinge]

No, it's not an event. You can go talk to Ann and Makoto and Shibuya and they'll mention this

I wanted to add an optional text message here, but I haven't figured out the trigger for it

[lapis tartan]

they mentioned it but then just said they'll be hanging out there

didn't seem to be much i could do

[random hinge]

Yeah, you're not getting a crepe. I just made the dialogue edit

It's just for flavor

[lapis tartan]

i see

just making sure i wasn't missing anything

[random hinge]

No worries

[lapis tartan]

the lack of one kind of threw me off though so thats what caused me to investigate

but otherwise it seems to not be having any issues as far as i can tell

[random hinge]

Yeah, I've been wondering if I should just remove it to avoid confusion

At least until I can figure out how to make a text message optional

[lapis tartan]

i think its fine as flavor tbh

[lapis tartan]

i got hung up on this because i'm autistic and investigated it

its probably fine for most people

also should i have updated to the latest veresion of kasumi as protag?

[random hinge]

You're not using my model mod, are you? You're using only Wisteria's mod in a version before "Pre-release 3, hotfix 1"?

[random hinge]

I haven't "tested" it, but it should be fine if you update

[lapis tartan]

it didn't seem to make any noticeable changes, though i did see yoshizawa was forced as a surname because of it

rather than the surname i inputed

[random hinge]

The name is handled by the "Force (Custom) Protagonist Name" if you see "Yoshizawa"

Because you can't input "Yoshizawa" in game, it's too long

[random hinge]

Okay, do you want Kasumi with brown hair and a white mask?

[true thorn]

yes

[random hinge]

And you're not having this ingame, right?

[lapis tartan]

i actually used that to force the old name i was using

[true thorn]

yes

[true thorn]

i`m fuckd up

?

[random hinge]

That's because you're using the Gamebanana version of my model mod. It doesn't work with Wisteria's pre-release build

You can grab an updated version in my drive

That has the missing model that's causing your issue

[true thorn]

oof

[random hinge]

If you want, you can also update Wisteria's mod to the latest pre-release build (Pre-release build 3 hotfix1) that has those models by default now

[random hinge]

Did it reset?

[lapis tartan]

wdym?

[bright hawk]

yeah if you use the outdated version ive noticed it messes with more than just the model so its def worth checking that y2j

[random hinge]

If you check "Configure" on it, maybe it did reset to "Kasumi Yoshizawa"

Instead of the name you wanted

[lapis tartan]

it wasn't enabled in the first place

since i wanted to use the surname i traditionally use

[random hinge]

I'll have to put a disclaimer on my post to let people know that they must update the model mod they use

[lapis tartan]

i only enabled it because the new update seems to have changed it

[lethal geode]

please update your kasumi as protag pre release build!

[true thorn]

thx for the help

[random hinge]

Okay, so if you want to use the surname you inputed ingame, don't use the mod. If you want to change the surname you inputed ingame, enable the mod and configure it with the surname you want

That should fix your issue

[lapis tartan]

does it need to be enabled at all times?

[random hinge]

Not if you don't want the name and surname configured in it to appear

Okay, let me start again

If you input "Ren Amamiya" in game

Your name is Ren Amamiya

If you enable the Force Custom Protagonist Name

After that

Your name becomes "Kasumi Yoshizawa"

[lethal geode]

also yes, please do

[random hinge]

But your save will be named "Ren"

[lethal geode]

force custom protag name is no longer a dependency so you will have to manually enable it if you want to forcibly overwrite the ingame name

[lapis tartan]

i see

[lethal geode]

but yes please always use the latest version of my mod, it saves me a giant headache

[lapis tartan]

i understand this, i was just saying i was using it instead for my usual surname rather than kasumi's

[random hinge]

Oh, okay, I thought you wanted to use the name you inputed ingame

[lapis tartan]

i don't think that name i inputted matters anymore if wisteria's mod is going to force kasumi's

[lethal geode]

it doesnt

as i just said its no longer a dependency

[rapid mural]

On a minor issue. Now, Knowing Zylvos's heavy changes to the script and my own memories of the original I don't know if this is a typo or foreshadowing(since it IS Shibuya and the 3rd Palace has been foreshadowed since you got there.) But regardless I thought I would post about this Makoto conversation during the Madarame Arc where she follows "him" to the underground mall.

And that's it other than great mod!

[lapis tartan]

oh, weird, idk what caused that then

[lethal geode]

the old version

you have to update if you dont want it to be forced

[lapis tartan]

weird

since on the old version it didn't do that

[lethal geode]

i meant the old version as in

your current pre release

its outdated

[random hinge]

Wow, I didn't know she was there too. Thanks for the headsup, I'll fix this aswell

[lapis tartan]

already?

[lethal geode]

yes

[lapis tartan]

wow

alright thanks

[rapid mural]

yokatta! welcome!!

[true thorn]

same model

[random hinge]

Can you show your load order after updating the mods?

[random hinge]

You're still not using the updated "Alternate model" mod

It should say 1.3.0

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cpFZisgX0PqGAvu2LipYZ1fk-YIziilB

In "Model mods"

You can find the updated versions (the normal one with the ponytail and an alternate version with the long hair)

Pick one

And delete the old

[true thorn]

thx

[random hinge]

Did it work?

[true thorn]

yes

[random hinge]

Nice!

On an unrelated note: I got very lucky and managed to find a fix for "Kasumi" showing up instead of "Sumire" when dreaming. The name of the confidant is actually a variable that picks one of the confidant you have unlocked. Fixing this requires editing the flowscript, so I get how Sumire Overhaul wasn't able to edit it.
Also, the file I edited isn't the one used in game (this happens a lot). I had changed the dream about the protag loosing their "swimming trunks" but it will not appear ingame with the file I've edited.

Anyway, here we go

[rapid mural]

Fun Fact about the Force Protag mod. Death Chaos made it editable a long while ago. Ryoma Yasurakashi is what I put in mine because at some point reloade 2 just decided I needed it again.

It's actually nice not being restrained by 8 characters even if Kurayami, Getsuya, Kurohane(my Kotone's last name) are epic names in their own right. And if you decide she needs to be Yoshizawa again at some point you can do that.

Its actually a great little tool, especially as you have to decide on a name so fast, and you can clock 200+ hours on a playthrough.

TLFR: You can change the Force Protagonist name to Anything you want.

Death Chaos did great.

[lapis tartan]

nice

[gritty terrace]

She looks a lot like maki here

[rapid mural]

That is (considering she likes girls and would be very embarassed if it was Ann or Makoto etc) the most innocent version of that dream.

I can see Sumire just laughing at her and it being the only version where she actually tels the other person.

The Sumire Bean may see all?

[tribal anvil]

Caught two typos here. The first one has a superfluous a between needs and guidance, the second one is missing a me before senpai

[tribal anvil]

Also maybe there should be a comma after again here, but that one might not be a mistake and just something with how I like to write

[chilly magnet]

I got the kamoshida arc game over upon starting a new game

is this a bug?

[still raven]

Thats caused by custom bonus tweaks, you just gotta update it

Same thing happened to me lmao

[tribal anvil]

An extra e in she here

[chilly magnet]

Where's the updated version?

[still raven]

If you have reloaded ii, it should automatically update

If not, you can do what I did and do a clean install from gamebanana by dragging the files in the folder

Reloaded should detect it and update accordingly

[chilly magnet]

thanks

[still raven]

👍

[chilly magnet]

Still not working

I'm using 2.5.2

[still raven]

Okay weird, im not sure whats happening then

Sorry 😭

[chilly magnet]

I'm gonna try starting a new save in vanilla and save at the earliest state to see if that works

That doesn't even work lmao

[rapid mural]

If it were me I would leave it as is because without the comma it conveys more excitement. I don't know the grammar answer either but without the comma you only feel the exclamation point.

[lethal geode]

It would be grammatically correct to add a comma there yea

[rapid mural]

btw... Thank you. People like you reminded me that I AM a tester too. I love this mod and If it is more than minor stuff or individual stuff I try to not post until I have a solve.

But Both Wisteria and Zylvos are basically making a game here. and I want to do my part

Wisteria is making Kotone part a (The Female protagonist with menus, costumes and even network settings) and Rose and Violet is Kotone part B(social links, changed dialogue etc)

The Kasumi Bean Sees All

[rapid mural]

bummer.

[chilly magnet]

I can't even play this mod because everytime I create a new save or load an existing save I always end up at the 1st arc bad ending.

[tribal anvil]

I also do a lot of character writing so this kinda stuff just sticks out to me

[chilly magnet]

I don't know how other people are able to play the mod, and I followed the setup guide pdf as accurately as possible.

The one on the Google Drive

[tribal anvil]

I know Custom Bonus Tweaks wasn't auto updating for me, I had to do it manually

[chilly magnet]

I updated it to version 2.5.2 yet it still doesn't work.

[lethal geode]

You would have to make a post in #1045463162452987924, I don't think Zylvos can really help you further

[rapid mural]

I get it. I have been trying to figure out who Ryoma Yasurakashi is and why my Kasumi Yoshizawa chose that alias.

Most of my writings are private but they inform my playthrough very much.

[tribal anvil]

Something else I noticed. The transition texture for the Sae interrogation is using long hair version even with the ponytail alt models

[lethal geode]

Zylvos uses the ponytail for interrogation?

[lethal geode]

well you'll just have to live with it, im definitely not touching that file again

its a 3d model with the character outline cut into it

[tribal anvil]

I didn't even notice until like the 3rd time, it's not that obvious

Should be except here, not excepted

[jagged dome]

Yeah, I told them about it already

[tribal anvil]

I think that should be huh or eh instead of uh, but not sure on this one

[tribal anvil]

This one is def just me, but if that option is still going to be a guts check, I think it should be a bit more bold

[lethal geode]

Definitely eh or huh

[tribal anvil]

This one should be Uh instead of Huh

[chilly magnet]

It works for me now, Persona Essentials needed an update on my end.

[dull pulsar]

Pinkfloydmax
constantly finding typo
and the occasional nitpick

question
is this mod compatible with P5:royal heist mod?

or atleast a portion of that mod?

[tribal anvil]

I'm playing with that rn.
Everything seems fine so far

[dull pulsar]

nice
i honestly just wanna download it and take the part that allow boss to be critted

[tribal anvil]

I thought the weapons might break but it seems fine even with the equipment patch

Like the only thing I can think of is if Heist changes the Twins fusion requests it might mess with some of the text edits

[dull pulsar]

your occasional nitpick on the way the sentence is created is kinda
nice

[tribal anvil]

I just know it's better to catch all this now instead of on a more public release.

[dull pulsar]

i mean
most of it is a typo
but i see 2 comment which seem to be just nitpicking

[tribal anvil]

Question, have shadow negotiations really been touched?

[dull pulsar]

iirc
a bit

like
probably just 2 or 3 sentence

[tribal anvil]

This isn't a big one, but I think replacing sonny with missy or something similar would work

[tribal anvil]

Just realized. It's only the ponytail model they use, the Kasumi portrait is long hair

[lethal geode]

weird

[tribal anvil]

Yeah. It's the actual Kasumi portait too, with the brown hair + mole

[rapid mural]

ahhhhh. Yeah that makes sense. Having it polishes before it ends up in a more public space makes a lot of sense.

I have a stutter issue and was taught multiple languages as a child so am not just forgiving of typos, I miss them a lot.

(the ones I make personally are horrifying and legendary though)

[dull pulsar]

true
the internet do tend to go crazy over the littlest thing

[bright hawk]

how weird is a ||futaba romance with this mod? I'm trying to figure out if its worth it or if its too close to the sibling dynamic like it is with joker
please answer spoiler free if possible, i don't wanna know what's different, just if it's less sibling like bc she already has one or if its kept the same||

[tribal anvil]

||I haven't gotten that far yet, but I know Sojiro makes a comparison between you and Futaba like way earlier. Like second day early||

[bright hawk]

||yeah i saw that, but it doesn't fully answer the question for me||

[dull pulsar]

man
how fast did you guys clear the game?

[bright hawk]

||hey im on a mental health break and havent even started hermit yet, still in futaba palace ark||

[dull pulsar]

i literally only started the palace of gluttony

and dude already around wrath

[bright hawk]

as i said, mental health break

[dull pulsar]

how da hell did i even take 10 hrs just to start gluttony

i mean
duh
there is still the palace of wrath before greed

i kinda just gonna start referring to the palace by their will seed

mainly cause remembering the owner's name is kinda hard

[dull pulsar]

do tell once you finish ||hermit||

planning to have ||futaba|| as the love interest this run

[bright hawk]

that's why i was asking here, to see if zyvlos wouldn't mind answering the question as spoiler free as possible lol

[dull pulsar]

i wanted to choose violet
but she unavailable

[bright hawk]

yeah she's your sister here?

[dull pulsar]

probably cause choosing your LITERAL TWIN SISTER is a bad idea

but i still want it

its violet

what you expect?

well
since i cant pick violet
might as well pick oracle

[bright hawk]

stares intently like the yusuke crit cutin

[dull pulsar]

what?

what wrong with rose x oracle?

[bright hawk]

this

[dull pulsar]

rose x violet is weird

i agree

but i read too much manga to even care at this point

well
as a love interest is extremely bad

but as a siscon?
might work

anyway
rejected ann

[tribal anvil]

Hey can you move this to https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/796394861548011541 or somewhere? Don't wanna clog this channel up more than it needs too

[dull pulsar]

tho i should probably accept it on future run to see how it's different from vanilla

[tribal anvil]

Got two more here

First is during the awakening, should be don not done

Second is after you get back to the school, it's missing a question mark at the end.

[dull pulsar]

my god
how did i missed the 2nd one

@tribal anvil did you put royal heist above or below R&V main mod?

[tribal anvil]

Below

[dull pulsar]

i see

[lethal geode]

https://tenor.com/view/even-he-was-weirded-tf-out-even-she-was-weirded-tf-our-ace-attorney-the-great-ace-attorney-tgaa-gif-7791104392391928355

in what universe would you just casually mention this oml

like genuinely i dont understand

[bright hawk]

thank you someone fucking understands

[lethal geode]

no one made you type those words out, you actually typed them out and thought it was a good idea to announce it to everyone here

keep it to yourself

[jagged dome]

What? I took 10 hours just to beat lust

[dull pulsar]

honestly
60% of that is just me afk-ing

[jagged dome]

Tbf, I’m reading almost all the text to see new shit

[dull pulsar]

make sense

[tidal glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/zadtwt-pinkpantheress-gagged-shocked-turning-head-gif-13930026580453081419

[dull pulsar]

lol

[dull pulsar]

what wrong with a sister loving and wanna spoilt their own sister?

[lethal geode]

wtf is wrong with you

[dull pulsar]

uhm
too much manga wrong

[bright hawk]

platonic is fine for that dynamic tbh

[lethal geode]

you cannot seriously be this goonbrained to think bringing up taboo shit like incest OUT OF NOWHERE is acceptable

[tidal glacier]

oh he’s fr about this😭

[dull pulsar]

and yuri enjoyer

[tidal glacier]

I thought he was trolling

[lethal geode]

like holy shit keep it to yourself

[dull pulsar]

i did quickly say none incest

[lethal geode]

what happened to basic decency

[pallid thicket]

smolkayu please just keep your preferences to yourself

[radiant plume]

look i'm a yuri enjoyer also but
casually dropping incest out of nowhere is wild

[dull pulsar]

but yeah
should probably remove that part

[pallid thicket]

this is a public space

[dull pulsar]

imma go remove myself

[buoyant arch]

...Oh my.

[bright hawk]

my question still didnt get answered lol
its not like anyone besides zyvlos knows the answer

[buoyant arch]

Still getting through it, so I can't answer it either

also I really don't know how I'd word it without spoiling much

[bright hawk]

it's all good

[pallid thicket]

he speaking so much it's going off screen

[lethal geode]

yapatron 90000

none of these people know I was an undesirable child

[buoyant arch]

I do see him crying in his bed while having a wide cringy smirk saying like "ooooh i've suffered"

or some nonsense like that

to each their own

[granite wren]

He definitely posts things like this

[buoyant arch]

that reminds me, wisteria, can you dm me the frames from the UI of the pause menu?

Whenever possible

[lethal geode]

Yeah I can do it later tonight

[buoyant arch]

alrighty, ty

[jagged dome]

I just noticed, is Kasumi supposed to have her hair down in the Velvet Room?

[buoyant arch]

I believe so, yeah

[jagged dome]

Huh, that’s kinda surprising imo, since even if you walk into the velvet room with a ponytail, suddenly your hair is down

It makes sense if you enter it in your sleep

[lethal geode]

just part of the prison attire 🤞

[jagged dome]

I found a kinda bug?

You can draw the official phantom thieves logo on the blackboard before you meet Yusuke

4/26 I’m on

[thorn scroll]

seconding this but i assumed it was probably a base game thing

[buoyant arch]

yeah, it is

[autumn elbow]

Futaba judging my sitting skills

[lethal geode]

[dull pulsar]

rose
as a gymnast
exerting dominance by airsitting

[lethal geode]

onto the list it goes

[lapis tartan]

is always rankup compatible with this mod?

[radiant plume]

probably not

[lethal geode]

depends

[radiant plume]

anything that edits text that doesn't have a compatibility patch won't work
they mods will just overwrite each other

[lethal geode]

@random hinge did you edit cmm.bin at all

[random hinge]

I got destroyed while I was asleep, ahah
Thank you all for the reports, I'll fix them all for the next update

[lapis tartan]

would explain while it isn't doing anything

[random hinge]

Yes, but the not the part that Always Rankup changes

[lethal geode]

you used femulator to edit it right

[random hinge]

No

[lethal geode]

that would be why

[random hinge]

But I moved it the Character folder

So it should interact with the femulator

[lethal geode]

why move it there?

why not just use pak emulator to edit whatever you need to edit

[random hinge]

I moved it here because my edits weren't working when used with Always Rank up

And I did that because I ddin't know I could femulator that, ahah

[lethal geode]

yeah you can use pak emulator with most bin files tmk

[dull pulsar]

hmm

[random hinge]

It should be E309_201.BMD if that helps

[lapis tartan]

idk if always rank up is working to begin with though, since i still get non rankup stuff

[lethal geode]

that does, tyvm!

[lapis tartan]

unless it needs to go below rose and violet

[lethal geode]

they just animate joker doing ANYTHING

[random hinge]

Well, if it does work, I'll have to move the file edits to Femulator

[lethal geode]

oh i should mention

[random hinge]

So until I can update my mod, it won't work for you I'm afraid

[lapis tartan]

i see

[lethal geode]

always rankup's file structure looks like this, so i would recommend copying it exactly

down to the caps

[lapis tartan]

i'll just disable it then

[lethal geode]

for some reason pak emulator is case sensitive so two mods that edit the same thing might have issues if their folder names arent capitalized the same (its a very minor issue though and the "fix" for now is to just standardize using all caps)

i do need to ask the author of ps4 reverts to fix thieves den in their mod

actually i might as well now

[random hinge]

It seems I already have a file structure like exactly like that for a few things so it shouldn't be an issue

I'll make a update today or tomorrow so people can test it

I'm still trying to fix the bathroom on the first floor in Shujin

[random hinge]

Well, it really comes down to how your perceive the relationship between Kasumi and Futaba. "Platonic" route leans more into Kasumi being a surrogate sister to Futaba (and vice-versa)

[dull pulsar]

surrogate sister
and sister in law moment
idk what the word for "the sister of your surrogate sibling"

[bright hawk]

ah ok so it depends on route this time! thanks!

[radiant plume]

living with someone who has a child around the same age does not mean they are your in-law (unless you mean something else and i'm misunderstanding)

[dull pulsar]

yeah
definitely the wrong word

well
violet is most likely also a surrogate sibling

if rose and oracle become surrogate

[radiant plume]

uh

no that's not how that works

rose and violet are still biological siblings, but they'd both be surrogate to futaba
i think that's what you mean but my brain is not working rn

[dull pulsar]

yeah
i was saying that if rose and oracle is surrogate
what does that make violet and oracle?

does that mean violet and oracle also technically surrogate

or a different type

[lapis tartan]

dunno if this got reported already, but typo with the word 'thought'

also had this happen

[random hinge]

Thanks for the reports! Second one got also reported earlier today

[radiant plume]

bro yaps so much that his text goes over the textbox limit

[rapid mural]

I know most people here have played the entire game.

But wow this conversation is incredibly disturbing when you know all about Akechi.
(minor spoilers mostly about him attacking fish)
|| I imagine him struggling with the filet a little bit and then somehow
manifesting his persona and taking out half a building and vaporizing the fish. or:

Losing it and stabbing the fish so vigorously he destroys the table, stabs his lap multiple times and ends up pounding the fish into mush ||

[radiant plume]

just a typical day for my skrunkly little boy

:3

[autumn elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-cereal-burn-fire-this-is-fine-gif-13568516

[thorn scroll]

he has a future career as a chef

trust

[dull pulsar]

did i somehow broke the mod a bit?

[lyric willow]

might be worth noting that on 4/13 Ryuji states he can't go in the boys' bathroom

[random hinge]

I should be able to fix it in the next update

[random hinge]

I was looking into it yesterday. I should have a fix in the next update

[lyric willow]

[peak drift]

This error is in character so I let it slide

[autumn tusk]

the strees of running the phantom thiefs got to her

[random hinge]

So, adding the music for the new outfits increased the size of the model mods by quite a lot when compressed... I guess the music is already compressed by default

Let's hope I won't need to update those very often

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/190050920376041472/1375800591200030790/VID_20250524_140626_920.mp4?ex=68418226&is=684030a6&hm=fc418693268b547571c2d924365259ecedd1b32ecfa871a3e36af41409420cc3&

[random hinge]

Rose & Violet Beta 1 - Hotfix 1
The following mods have been updated:

• Ponytail models mod
• Long hair variant models mod
• Confidant cheat sheet
• Rose & Violet Story Overhaul

Please, update to the latest version of those mods to make sure the report are accurate. To do so, delete the folder with the previous version and replace it with the new version.

Changelog:

Ponytail and Long Hair variant models mod:
The music has been added the new outfits (2B / Aerith / Robin / Kat / Kotone)

Confidant Cheat sheet:
Typos have been fixed.

Rose & Violet Story Overhaul:

• Typos have been fixed.
• More edits to the negotiation dialogues.
• Change the CMM.BIN and CMPTABLE.BIN to use the FEmulator. This should make them compatible with mods like Always Rank up.
• Sumire now has her long hair in the title screen.
• Bathrooms in Shujin have been fixed for specific days (like 04/11 and 04/13).

Load order setup:
The list of incompatible mods has been updated with "NG+ Arcana Bonus" (page 5/5).

Reminder:

• Make sure Custom Bonus Tweaks (version 2.5.2+) and Persona Essentials (version 2.9.2+) are up to date.
• ** Don't use the alternate models mod on Gamebanana**. It is outdated and will not work with Wisteria's latest test build.
• Make sure Wisteria's test build is up to date.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cpFZisgX0PqGAvu2LipYZ1fk-YIziilB?usp=drive_link

I'm going to bed and I have work tomorrow, so my ability to troubleshoot issues is going to be limited. If you encounter issues, try disabling some of the mods to figure out if this is really Rose & Violet that's causing it or not.

[lapis tartan]

should always rankup go above or below the mod in the load order?

[jagged dome]

I need a cool thief group name that fits Kasumi

[magic magnet]

I have it at the bottom of the load order and work just fine

[lapis tartan]

i have it above rn so i'll see if it works like that

[lapis tartan]

another missed text part to report

[autumn elbow]

I cant stop looking at Makoto's leg lol the shadowing and distance makes it look crooked had to really look at it.

[buoyant arch]

This is probably something from your mod, but on ||11/20, at the cutscene where Morgana and Futaba are discussing plans, the voice that comes out is Morgana's, but the name and portrait is Futaba's.||

[rapid mural]

My original one qas called Ishi(means will or rock in Japanese. so it could mean Will of Rock)

This time I picked JiyuuTsubasa which means Freedom Wing.

FreedomWing and Stone Will aren't bad places to start with the creativity.

Somehow I think I was thinking of the Crow or maybe a certain beloved character from Star Ocean 1.

Tsubasa by itself just means Ones with wings.

[rapid mural]

oh btw For everyone playing the mod! Kasumi and Sumire are actually one month younger than Futaba. So if you want to just rp as a sort of surrogate sister she's almost like a 3rd fraternal twin.

I was just thinking we are all so used to having playing the game a certain way, that I has forgotten this.

So TLFR:

Kasumi is 1 month younger than Futaba and therefore you are younger than all the Phantom Thieves.

That means a lot more than when you were someone the same age as everyone else.

Yes you are capeable, but I think it is significant. Kind of how Futaba is so amazing and also the youngest.

Any way I thought everyone would like some non dramatic knowledge

[dull pulsar]

Welp
Guess I have to update both wis and r&v

[dull pulsar]

Nice

[lunar falcon]

so, funny enough about the AoA music bug

if the enemy survives the first AoA and you can get off a second AoA, it fixes the audio

all I can assume is that if you're mashing, the bug will just flip your audio tracks each time

[random hinge]

Yeah, it's from my files. I think it's a leftover from the other story overhaul because I remember fixing it for one of the answers, ahah. It'll be fixed in the next update

[random hinge]

Added to the typos list, thanks!

[normal pulsar]

Mind pinning the comment ? ❤️

One thing I noticed, when I put the sumire overhaul mod over rose and violet like the description says the game will constantly crash.
But when I put it below everything works.
I don't know if I'm the only one ?

[random hinge]

Well you shouldn't put it before Rose & Violet or it will override my edits (or maybe not, since it's a dependency, it could still be loaded before Rose & Violet)

I don't know what could be causing the crash though. Does it still happens when disabling Rose & Violet ?

[normal pulsar]

its above rose and violet in your screenshot

[magic magnet]

Is there a link to download persona 5 royal custom bonus tweaks?

[random hinge]

Oops, I meant after Rose & Violet

[random hinge]

You can find it on Gamebanana

[buoyant arch]

||This happens on 11/23. Unsure if it was an oversight of Atlus or if this was a changed animation in your mod. Yusuke has his feet floating while sitting.||

[elder kraken]

just yusuke things

[buoyant arch]

i think it's an oversight from atlus

but eh

yusuke would definetly do something like that

[pallid thicket]

but anything is possible with yusuke

[random hinge]

Yeah, I have edited a few events to fix a few head angles and the like, but I didn't edit that one. This is just regular Yusuke, as you and others have said ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dull pulsar]

Soo uhm
My rose is somehow using long hair instead of ponytail

Despite the fact I downloaded the ponytail variant

like why?
what did i do?

[random hinge]

It looks like you're using the "Sumire" option of Wisteria's mod

She even has the animation with her hands in front of her

[dull pulsar]

?

Nvm
Found it

[solar igloo]

I just love how you guys written Kasumi dealing with the guys problems.

[chilly magnet]

This mod is really cool

I've been playing it for a little while and I really like it

Definitely my new favorite FeMC mod for Persona 5.

[rapid mural]

Oh that whole situation was so much fun. I was dying playing it aa BetaFemc but this was even better.

I also like that Zylvos has removed the romance options with I believe all night Women and Takemi but Hifumi(since she is I believe Makoto's age and also a student) so I am interested to see the other changes.

[lyric willow]

this mod is really well written

I love it so much

genuinely feels like how the game should've been

[random hinge]

The adult romances aren't completely removed. There're not supported = no dialogue changes to them. I no longer prevent them from starting because there were issues with the "No adult romance mod", so I've added warnings before and after starting the romance so people can reload a save if they did this by accident

[cobalt notch]

Does this replace what you start with instead of Arséne?

Like this mod

[frosty basalt]

yes Rose's persona is called Anastasie (I think)

[azure tusk]

I wouldn't call it an oversight, if the chair is tall your feet just hang

[dull pulsar]

Wait what?

Huh

[buoyant arch]

I do get it, but he's forcing his feet to be at that angle instead of letting them loose and hanging there

i wouldn't be like that for a minute with how uncomfortable it is

spooky

[jagged dome]

Should the book about Arsène be changed to be about Anastasie?

[chilly magnet]

PSA: I found out that the rose and violet mod is compatible with the always rank up mod, so I personally recommend that mod as an alternative to the speak your mind mod.

[magic magnet]

Yep I have mine place at the bottom of my load order and work just fine

[jagged dome]

I just got to 5/12

||HOLY SHIT, THIS NEW EVENT IS AMAZING!!!||

Holy shit!

[rapid mural]

Well in that case, then simply kudos for making Kawakami's dialogue just much more natural for a female student/student in general.

I feel it works much better.

[rapid mural]

Not for that one as the books are a wink and a nod to the personas. There will eventually be a Cendrillion book show up I believe.

Also both Arsene Lupin, Carmen, Captain William Kidd, and Goemon are also classroom quizzes as well.

Fun Fact Arsene Lupin was a inspiration for classic manga Lupin the 3rd.

[jagged dome]

Yes, but Arsene isn’t her persona

It’s Anastasie

[rapid mural]

true but I think esiting the book would be really difficult.

cause it would also mean editing the quiz as well.

and The book is about Arsene Lupin the gentleman thief.

thats what I meant about the books being a wink and a nod to the personas. I have never seen any books edites for a mod and they may be uneditable.

[rapid mural]

Also, in p5royal original you only have Arsene for about the first ten hours of the game. it's possible you may lose Arsene before even reading the book

[dull pulsar]

What is 5/12 again?
Exam?

[dull pulsar]

You telling me R&V swap arsene into Anastasie?
Damn
I'm been using wis's version (Red cendrillon)

[random hinge]

Yes, Arsène is replaced by Anastasie (= Red Cendrillon) by Rose & Violet. You dont't need to enable Wisteria's option

You won't get new skills with her though. You need progressive Arsène for that (which doesn't change anything related to name/appearance of Arsène, just his skillset)

For the Arsène book : I considered editing it, but I think it's a minor thing. Making a book about Anastasie would also be about Cendrillon

And Cendrillon's book is available much later

That's not a big deal though, I can cook something for that

I think the class quizz can stay as it is, it ties itself with Leblanc

[lapis tartan]

I kinda like speak your mind more conceptually, since I never try to finish all the social links, it would help me space out the links I actually want to do across the game rather than finishing them quickly and having nothing to do later on.

[solar igloo]

Yes

[solar igloo]

||Definitely loved it. Now im curious to see if theres more events like it.||

[dull pulsar]

Isee

[dull pulsar]

beautiful

[wary yoke]

It's a pity I don't have spare time to play now. I am so curious about the new event you've mentioned. ꒦ິ^꒦ິ

[rapid mural]

Just gives you something to look forward to. I just realized what it was!

I am excited as I see Zylvos has a master plan that ties into the original story. My mind is awash with theories.

Because ANYTHING could happen.

I won't be surprised if I find myself replaying R&V a second time.

I am looking for clues like Herlock Sholmes!

[rapid mural]

And no I won't share any of my theories. muahaha

[cobalt notch]

and am confused now.

[wary yoke]

OMG you are making me more and more curious about it!!

[rapid mural]

Coding and Writing combined into a beautiful dance of math. And the dance of the Yoshizawa sisters tells me to throw out everything I thought I knew and question what I think is possible.

There are insane huge twists in the original dance of both Royal and Yoshizawa.

Playing Rose and Violet there have been so many subtle changes I realize I don't know what happens even with the shocking long game twists.

It is like picking up a game you played over ten years ago. And you love the game, and you swore you finished it.

Leading to this:

TLFR:

You keep being surprised by things that happen in the game.

You remember and love the game and decide "I don't know how it will end. Magnifique"

That's about the experience I get playing Rose and Violet.

It's almost like playing a game I forgot half of.

so I get that nostalgia of replaying the game, and the excitement of not knowing when something new will happen.

[bright hawk]

||the actual nov 19 scene with the asshole guy who hits you freezes when the confession letter appears on screen. idk if its a bug with this mod exactly but i suspect so||

[random hinge]

That seems unlikely. I think L7M3 went through that part of the game recently (with their report about Futaba having a Morgana dialogue). @buoyant arch Did you encounter the same issue as LunarNight?

[bright hawk]

ok that's fair. it was one scene that plays right in the prologue so its fine. i don't mind, i just thought if it were connected to this that you should know

[buoyant arch]

I'll be honest in saying i accidentally skipped it cause I thought i was alt tabbed, so I really don't know if it would've happened on my end

[random hinge]

You said the "scene" freezes? You mean you can't continue playing?

[bright hawk]

uh well i can skip the scene but the dialogue just stops playing and the object i mentioned flicks around the screen

its after the ||obstruction of justice, blackmail... etc line. it cuts off before 'talk about the works, kid' that normally plays. the clipboard with the confession teleports around the screen. its why i thought it could only be this line bc the audio wasnt playing right||

[random hinge]

Yeah, I found the event number and I see what happening

I have no idea what's going on, ahah

I'll investigate. For now, skip that event

[bright hawk]

okay dw i did i just thought it was worth reporting

[buoyant arch]

speaking of, ||Satanael's awakening has a completely black screen when you press to shoot Sinful Shell. The scene plays out... i think, but the audio is all over the place and SFX are nowhere to be heard.||

[random hinge]

No worries, I was just surprised because the same event at the start of the game works correctly

[buoyant arch]

||It's also unskippable, but the scene does end eventually which allows for progression.||

[random hinge]

You mean after pressing "Sinful Shell"?

[buoyant arch]

yeah. The scene before works propperly.

[random hinge]

Now this is going to be annoying to test

Alright

I think I know why

It's P5R FemaleAudio

@buoyant arch If you have a save before Yalda, can you try again without P5R FemaleAudio enabled?

[buoyant arch]

i think i should have one

will do

[lapis tartan]

anyone ever get an issue where you play in japanese but the lines the characters say when they get a new skill are in english?

[random hinge]

Well, for the interrogation scene, it was already reported to the creator of P5R FemaleAudio

There's no report of the Satanael issue on Gamebanana

@buoyant arch I have been able to test it with the Thief Den, and I have the same black screen. Disabling P5R FemaleAudio doesn't fix it

So the Satanel issue is actually the latest version of Custom Bonus Tweaks or the Event Fadeout Table Merging dependency

Lovely

I'll report this to DeathChaos

[buoyant arch]

Just got home, and i was about to test it. Glad you figured it out though

but damn, this sucks

[pseudo dock]

Wait I remember this happening with redux months back. My memory is telling me it had something to do with I think either she/her or the femprotag mod being active. Let me take a look back at logs

oh I only read the other things now

ahh right, it was voice related. But im fairly sure it wasn't the royal audio one. Since that didn't exist when the bug occured.

@buoyant arch you remember this right? It was a very old bug report.

[buoyant arch]

yeah i do

[pseudo dock]

im trying to remember where it is cause discord search is bad

[buoyant arch]

I'll for it too

[random hinge]

Well, I only needed to disable FemaleAudio to fix it. I tested my entire mod without this mod though, so that's why I didn't caught it. I only added it for the release because I though would want to use it here

So it could be an old issue

The report on Gamebanana is fairly recent though

[pseudo dock]

We only had 1 bug report about it. And it was the one I'm thinking of. Yeah I think it was. It's due to how the mod edited the audio I think.

yeah I found it

it was that mod

We concluded that they spliced the original line wrong. But I never actually took the time to check specifically what was wrong with it.

though it must be something else since it would've been found by more people by now.

[random hinge]

Event 389_010 is the same as 101_001 (the one that plays at the beginning of the game)

[bright hawk]

||why are we playing as sumire during 11/22? thats intentional right?||

[random hinge]

In the FemaleAudio mod, files are the same for the two events except

[pseudo dock]

I see

[random hinge]

There's an added audio (29.adx) for 389_010. Removing it changes nothing

The other audios are identical except 17.adx

File comparison tells me they're different

And 17.adx is played just before the softlock

[bright hawk]

||omg its a disguise my bad!! i saw the hair is still brown||

[random hinge]

I'm going to try replacing 17.adx with the one from 101_001

[bright hawk]

||sorry zylvos the hair looks red half the time so it's weird||

[random hinge]

And that fixes it!

I'll tell the author on Gamebanana, unless you have a more direct way of telling them @pseudo dock since it's a fairly easy fix

[pseudo dock]

Nah I don't. Good thing it was a really easy fix though.

[buoyant arch]

||Whenever Sumire levels up and gets a new skill, her voice line is changed to be Joker's. I thought I missheard it previously, but now there's no doubt about it.||

[random hinge]

||Wait, Sumire? That's not my mod, that's for sure||

[buoyant arch]

oh, I see

sorry for putting it here then.

[pseudo dock]

smh l7

[buoyant arch]

bruh I just wanted to help

:(

[pseudo dock]

But you hate helping

[bright hawk]

check your cbt settings? i know theres a thing for ||joker voice lines||

[random hinge]

No worries, I think it's a configure option in the Kasumi voice patch

It's disabled for me, but I haven't been paying attention to voice lines a lot

[bright hawk]

that makes more sense actually