(P5R PC) Rose & Violet - Story overhaul

[floral hill]

After several years in development, hopefully it was worth the wait - Gabe

[tidal glacier]

I’m from the future, it was worth the wait

[kind shell]

@random hinge Once you done your pre relase can ya please show the correct load order too possibily?

[simple verge]

This is under their WIP gb

[random hinge]

Yes, I'll provide a screenshot of the load with detailed explanations on how to order the mods and how to configure them

[idle rampart]

https://gamebanana.com/projects/36354

is this the one?

[tidal glacier]

No

This one is called Rose & Violet

that’s made by someone else entirely

You can use it if you want but it crashes at the holy grail fight

Just to let you know

[idle rampart]

can you give me a link of the one of this channel

[tidal glacier]

Can’t, this isn’t out yet

[idle rampart]

oh sorry I thought maybe it also has a wip on game banana

[tidal glacier]

Its okay but you don’t have to wait too long fortunately i think

[idle rampart]

what is this overhaul exactly? story mild change or change he to a she

[random hinge]

https://gamebanana.com/wips/88857

[marsh harness]

Omg it's here

Im so hyped

[rapid mural]

dalek voice: EXPLAIN!

[marsh harness]

This mod is almost here now that the other Kasumi mod is posted

[rapid mural]

True!!!

[granite wren]

I'm excited but I also want to wait for the long hair compatibility as the long hair model looks so good
aaa choices choices

[rapid mural]

I also found out more bad news about the other Kasumi storyline mod so I am even more excited. (apparently crashes during final fight of december)

But I am mostly using that while waiting for this one.

I get what the author tried to do, but I think keeping Kasumi the same or doing what Z did is the way to go in a storyline overhaul. That said I am really intrigued to see how she pulls it off because week one of January is so unbelievably twisted

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And I got spoiled minorly looking for Kasumi's birthday

and I still wasnt prepared for all the crazy twists upon twist upon twists

and now Z has even more up her sleeve

EXCITED!!!!

[noble sage]

I'm excited, I'm still holding off from playing with the new mod so I can do it with this xP

[rapid mural]

I felt weird about that too. but since I have a overpowered ng plus I figured I would just create one and catch up to wherever my non ng plus Kasumi is. But that is only because I play as BetaFemc as well. I will also probably still be in Hentai Castle when she releases!

(I jokingly call it that but I think that mighy be the code name of Kamoshida's palace!)

[tidal glacier]

Yes it does there is a patch but you have to manually go deep into the files but I forgot

[rapid mural]

wow. I hope the original developer is doing well mentally. I may not be a fan of the Kasumi confidant changes but everything else is pretty wonderful. and coding is a a wonderful blend of Math, Magic, and Art.

I mean there is always uncheck, move past the glitch and then relod with the mod again(like the Takemi crash)

Back on Topic It will be interesting to see how stable Z's mod is since they have been workin with Wisteria, workin on Rose and Violet and makin sure it was ready for a beta before releasing it with Wistria's 1.0 I am sure I will be impressed.

[tidal glacier]

Me too, it’s a shame, mod was almost finished too

[rapid mural]

Life.

[tidal glacier]

Agreed I hope everything goes well

[vernal field]

The other one crashing at the holy grail fight can be fixed by deleting a file. I can tell yall which one later

When I have time to find the message that told me

Funnily enough it was Zyvlod that told me

[rapid mural]

I just deleted it and I uh... um If someone wanted to do a text mod Like the Kasumi overhaul mod is there a tool or application that people use? cause I just realized that ultimately it is creativity and lots and lots of work if it is just text. LOTS of work but I would be curious to try my hand even if just in private to see what Z and Wisteria and they all go through

AND ARIGATO

File deleted!

[red panther]

me too!! the long hair is amazing

[random hinge]

I should probably mention this now: the ponytail version is the "canon" version. Characters will sometime mention Kasumi's ponytail and ribbon. Obviously, this doesn't work as well with the long hair version. I won't be editing dialogues to fit the long hair: it's a variant for the models with no bearing on the story

[granite wren]

[late lark]

Agh, I thought you posted that cause the update was out.... 😦

[peak drift]

It was to redirect the person to the right mod

[kind shell]

I was gonna play that one till I found out about this but go to the Discord server for it. Theres something you can delete in the files for the mod that fixes it I remember them saying

[rapid mural]

someone shared this to me up thread a half day ago. I don't know that I will get that far But it's also necessary if one wants to do a original ending playthrough. Oh, and it IS a pain but uhhh if you use it on a brand new playthrough, uncheck it when Morgana says "Lets try that shifty Doctor" and recheck it after you have saved again. I have no idea why but there is a softlock with Takemi.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351304235320348683/1376947198746689649/IMG_4250.png?ex=6837d642&is=683684c2&hm=95d200b43ee2f9a1790acb8a0e00b3b21880d1b5ef76a2fe37c4f422df330bc2&

[vernal field]

You can also bypass the Takemi softlock by clicking down twice when the screens black and text in the top right and selecting. The scene will continue as nornal

[kind shell]

Oh yeah that's the other one too. Was super confusing that but ya not gonna bother with it anymore nisg gotta habs fun with this once it comes

[idle rampart]

approximately when will it be released?

[abstract swallow]

Let him cook. patience is a virtue

[true thorn]

i cant wait, but i`m wait

[random hinge]

Hmmmm, that's a good question. Let me think about it.

How about...

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy14-ffxiv-emet-selch-snap-finger-snap-gif-24426214

Now?

Rose & Violet - Beta 1
Here's a link to a google drive with the following subfolders:

• Rose & Violet - Story Overhaul : This folder contains the story overhaul mod.
• Model mods : This folder contains the model mods (ponytail and long hair variant). Just pick one. Note : ponytail is "canon".
• Addons : contains addons mods that are optional (Weapon and Equipment patch / Classroom cheat sheet / Confidant cheat sheet).

Remember to use Wisteria latest test build (Pre-release build 1 / Hotfix 2). You only need the main mod (not even the addon mod).

DO NOT USE THE MODEL FROM GAMEBANANA. IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH WISTERIA'S PRE-RELEASE BUILD.

These mods can be installed mid playthrough. However, I recommend starting a new playthrough (with or without NG+) to enjoy the full story.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cpFZisgX0PqGAvu2LipYZ1fk-YIziilB?usp=drive_link

Load order and configuration setup:

My thanks to Wisteria, Count Joelcula, MyTamagos for the help with the mods and submods.
For full credit, see the "Contributor.txt" file in the mod folder.

Note:

• The newest costumes (2B / Aerith / Robin / Kat) don't have the custom music playing. I can't fix it without including the music in the mod and I don't how to it works with Ryo, so consider it a feature.
• I haven't "Kasumified" all the new costumes added by Wisteria (yet).
• The AOA finisher doesn't have the heart-shaped leotard and there's no long version variant. There's an issue when exporting it with Blender so I can't make additional edits to it.
• Save often. I've taken every precaution to avoid crashes related to dialogues or flowscript, but I can't be entirely sure I haven't messed up somewhere.
• DON'T use the "Custom Bonus Tweaks (Compatibility Patch)". It's outdated and will cause some bugs

If you encounter a crash, make sure it is my mod that's causing it before reporting it. Disable my mod and try again until you find what's causing the crash. You may be using an incompatible mod or it's another mod that's having an issue.
And please, don't spoil anything for the others. Thank you.

[pallid thicket]

NAUR FR

https://tenor.com/view/ryuji-for-real-persona-5-persona-5-royal-persona-gif-14050933481255530550

[pseudo dock]

What's the issue with exporting from blender?

[idle rampart]

is the game banana one beta v0.22 kasumi mod ok? or have to download the 0.99 one

[random hinge]

Basically, there's a "pose" applied to the mesh that resizes and reposition stuff around. This pose isn't exported so everything is gigantic and all over the place

I discussed it a while ago with Wisteria

[pseudo dock]

That can be fixed

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Zylvos

I worked on the AOA a while ago, but I'm clearly not good enough with blender. You'll certainly do it better than me I think.
I think the model has a pose too that resizes it. I never managed to export it with that pose after editing it

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[random hinge]

Here

The GFS file is a bit above that message

[random hinge]

No, use Wisteria's latest test build

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Wisteria

Quick hotfix to address some issues:

Changelog (Main Mod)

• Temporarily removed E700_300 edits in response to some users having issues with post confidant dialogue

Changelog (Addon Mod)

• Fixed an error with the 2B outfits

Changelog (Long Hair Models)

• Fixed an issue with the jaw outline

https://pixeldrain.com/l/mrULL5wW

Previous changelog: #1094412112576651314 message

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#(P5R PC) Kasumi as Protagonist

Kasumi as Protag Pre-Release 1

This file has been shared with you on pixeldrain

[idle rampart]

ok 👌 and does it conflict with no crowd npc

[pseudo dock]

Made a video for it. It's pretty simple once you know how to do it. Should lead to it not being resized.

[tidal glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-peach-shocked-surprised-startled-scream-gif-5314380

[random hinge]

It should compatible

[abstract swallow]

WHAAAT

[tidal glacier]

best day of 2025 is here

[random hinge]

Thanks! I'll give it a try again!

[pseudo dock]

np, should work for every gfs/gmd that has this issue.

[idle rampart]

yeah I think you are correct I remembered I turned off the female npc event in kasumi mod config and it worked for no crowd npc

[tidal glacier]

I have one question, do I have to have the mole-kasumi model? Do I just delete the models file?

[rapid mural]

I just got P3 reloaded femc working. P4 golden I just got home to a rousing "Welcome home Big Sis" from Nanako. My master plan of playing other personas succeeded!! I am exstatic!

Now to start a brand new ng+ game for cutscenes and what not, trash kamoshida... then switch to my current Not ng+ file which is post kamoshida. but very carefully cause I dont want to miss anything.

Ill probably play several days forward just to be sure. I want to do a slow level experience on this is why!

[stray oracle]

Not it releasing when I just started my 24 hour shift a fate worse than death

[random hinge]

Well, kinda. There's two events that will crash because I made new models for those and they're not present "by default" in Wisteria's mod

I can tell you where to get them and where to put them if you'd like

[unreal gate]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-quagmire-glen-jaw-gif-22600043

[tidal glacier]

Sure!

[random hinge]

Take everything in:
kasumiprotag-PRE-RELEASE1.02-HF2\OptionalModFiles\Events\LargeEdits\Characters\Joker\1\MODEL\CHARACTER\0001
And put it in:
kasumiprotag-PRE-RELEASE1.02-HF2\Characters\Joker\1\MODEL\CHARACTER\0001

This should work today, but in the future, this won't be possible. If I add more models, events that have no equivalent in Wisteria's mod, it will no longer be possible to do that

[random hinge]

Thanks, it's working (in GFDstudio at least) !
By the way, how do you get the texture/material to show up in real colors? Everything's pretty much white for me, I can't find what's causing this

[pseudo dock]

top right, this button.

[random hinge]

Unfortunately, it doesn't change much for me

[pseudo dock]

no idea, it's always worked for me

[random hinge]

Alright, no worries. I'll see if I can figure it out

[tidal glacier]

I understand, this is still greatly appreciated you went out of your way to explain this for me

[bright hawk]

I just wanna say before I get started and get sucked in: thanks so much for putting in a lot of effort to make this mod! Based only on what has been shared, it seems really exhaustive and like a lot of work, and I certainly will be appreciating every second of it! Props to you and Wisteria for getting it done, and thank you!

[magic magnet]

Download all 4 files?

[granite wren]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-best-day-of-my-life-good-time-having-a-great-time-enthusiastic-happy-gif-15653690

[random hinge]

You need to download the story overhaul and a model mod at least. The rest is optional. Check the images

[magic magnet]

Ty!

[lethal geode]

You can copy the Ryo folder and music script pmes from my mod

specifically the Ryo folder from the addon mod

[random hinge]

I think I tried that and it didn't work. I'll try again, in case I missed something

[lethal geode]

You have to set Ryo as a dependency and I think BGME too

[random hinge]

Oh, that might be it then

[lethal geode]

to be honest I'm not sure why I didn't include them by default, I'll fix that in the next build

[random hinge]

Yeah, it's the dependency that was missing. Thanks for the heads-up!

[lethal geode]

[random hinge]

Yeah, you can include them and the .GAP in the event folder. That way, they'll only be used if someone use the LargeEdits option in your mod (or my mod)

[rapid mural]

so I don't think it's your mod it is probably my fiddly reload and my pile 'o mods. But It took ages to get it to recognise that I was adding rose and violet. IF anyone else has the problem, I suggest they add all the secondary Rose and violet mods first.

I think what helped is my reloaded got angry and was then searching for the dependency so when I then added through the "Mod Management Screen" It went "Eureka!" Again it may just be me. But as someone who knows some computer stuff I try to let you all know once I have a solve.

[magic magnet]

So I don't need "kasumi as protagonist story overhaul" anymore?

[random hinge]

No, don't use the other story overhaul alongside Rose & Violet. Mine is it's own thing and they will interfere with one another

[rapid mural]

Zylvos I have ran the opening a lot and with a single word you made the opening cinematit so much more fun!!! Also It was great seeing the two twins take down the enemy! I am so excited to take down Kamoshida yet again!

Seriously though. People don't realise how much just hearing "sis" matters

(also I am prtially deaf so I dont always catch the subtle difference between nee-chan and nii-chan)

[noble sage]

NO WAYYYYY

[jagged dome]

Maybe you should pin the pre release?

[sonic copper]

THE ONE PIIIIIIEEEECEEEE

THE ONE PIECE IS REEEEEEAAALLLL

[random hinge]

I think only moderators can pin messages

It's ok. Since it's a drive folder, I can just post the drive link again or the link of the message

[cunning kelp]

Congratulations on the beta release Zylvos!! I’ve been quietly following your progress and I’m so excited to finally try it out! Your work and Wisteria’s has breathed so much life back into my favorite game, and that’s a huge achievement.

[true thorn]

I have a question mods that replace music will work ?

[random hinge]

I think so. It depends if the mods are compatible with Custome Bonus Tweaks, so make sure to use the latest version of it since it's was updated for that

[true thorn]

thank you for the answer

[red panther]

Zylvos, I love you so much

[floral hill]

Zy I know that you probably already answered this but do you extract the 7z files inside the files as well?

[noble sage]

Thank you so much for your work! ❤️

[floral hill]

Not really the smartest modder so 😭

[rapid mural]

Little bits and pieces are absolutely everywhere. There's a Voiced comversation and... Z went to the trouble of editing both characters to put in a brand new piece of dialogue. Obviously that one box is not voiced (in Japanese anyway) but I was really impressed.

There is also a very early conversation with Sojiro with maybe 3-4 new boxes that I think she threw in some vocals but I am not sure .

Lots of new content and I am this close to getting to original 4/11 save.

just really great!

the Sojiro conversation was seamless though

if I had not played royal before I would have thought he always said that

[red panther]

no spoilers!

[floral hill]

Hey just so he doesn't have to answer this

do I have to unzip the 7z's inside the files?

Or do I leave those alone

[red panther]

you can grab the zip file and put it inside reloaded

it'll install autom. the mod

[floral hill]

oh ok ty

[red panther]

so you dont need to extract anything etc

yw!!

[floral hill]

Cheat sheets aren't needed right?

[random hinge]

No, they're completely optional

[floral hill]

Ty Zy also ty for making the mod and taking time to do it. 👍

[random hinge]

Yes, I tried to make the new dialogues as seamless as possible. I think it really shines with unvoiced dialogues like in confidant events

[noble sage]

I'm not exactly sure what it is, but when I hit "new game" I just get a black screen and my cursor is movable.

[floral hill]

Yeah the mod won't show up until I unzip the mod

But it doesn't look like yours tho

see its extra long

idk if that is supposed to happen. Anyone know what I probably did wrong?

[abstract swallow]

it looks like that for me but it works

[floral hill]

ok I just wanted to be extra sure

[random hinge]

Hum, I've never had this issue. Does the issue still happens when you disable Rose & Violet?

[random hinge]

That's weird, but if it works. I prefer extracting the .7z or .zip directly into the mod folder so I've never tried to do the drag and drop thing

[noble sage]

I let it run again and it seems to be that when I hit new game it's trying to load a save file.

Instead of starting a new game

Very odd

[random hinge]

Weird, do you have other mods in your load order that change that? Or something that skips the prologue?

Just to be sure, I've only tested my mod with the steam version of the game

Don't know if there's any other version out there

[noble sage]

Nope, I actually deleted everything and started fresh to install this

testing to see what happens after I deleted all my saves

[random hinge]

Did you copy my load order here? Could you try with only the mods above and including Custom Bonus Tweaks enabled?

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Zylvos

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[noble sage]

Each time it's put me here.

[random hinge]

Starting a new game sends you here?

What

[noble sage]

I have no idea.

[autumn elbow]

Anyone having issue opening Wisteria's latest test build? Pixeldrain keeps timing out for me

[floral hill]

interesting

[noble sage]

It's not this mod

Sorry

My load order is the exact same, my game is just fucked

[abstract swallow]

did you install the new version of kasumi as protag?

that happened to me on the old version

[noble sage]

Yeah I did

[floral hill]

Maybe something is enabled

[noble sage]

Okay, it's definitely one of the top dependencies, not any of the kasumi mods

[random hinge]

Do you have all the frameworks I've listed?

[noble sage]

I've disabled the top ones and the new game button worked fine, but this is my load order.

[random hinge]

Oh

Your version of Persona Essentials is old

(Same for Ryo and BGME framework)

[noble sage]

Damn alright

even though I just downloaded them

.<

[random hinge]

My Persona Essentials version is 2.9.2

Maybe try closing Reloaded and reopening to force it to check for updates

[noble sage]

Okay, that seemed to work

thanks, my bad x_x

I didn't consider that they were old since I literally just downloaded them, but I guess reloaded is like that.

[floral hill]

Yeah it can be pretty slow

Good thing it was just that.

[random hinge]

Yeah, I prefer knowing it's not because of my mod

[noble sage]

It works fine now

[random hinge]

Nice! Enjoy!

[noble sage]

It is very strange that those would lead to me starting on May 1st without any stats

[true thorn]

same error

[random hinge]

Well, could you do the same and check if all your mods are up to date?

[noble sage]

yeah

restart reloaded 2

because fresh downloads aren't up to date

[random hinge]

I didn't show the mod versions in the load order image because this would get quickly out of date and I don't want people to think they need a specific version of the mods to run the whole thing

Basically, always use the latest version of every mod

[true thorn]

once again thx

[marsh harness]

you crazy mf lol

Im so hyped

[timid birch]

Any chance you could pin this? I'm not home rn so I can't download it and I don't wanna get lost in the sauce

[noble sage]

I recommend forwarding it somewhere you can access more easily

since only mods can pin

[timid birch]

Oh is that how it works?

Annoying.

[rapid mural]

I deliberately worded it in a way to avoid them:)

[random hinge]

Can't pin, but I'll forward the message a couple time to keep it afloat for a while

[lethal geode]

ping brawler

i would rn but idk where the message is

and im not op

[lethal geode]

nvm found it

ideally ask him to pin the load order one first

then the download link second

[timid birch]

No worries I forwarded it to one of my private servers that I use for soundboard stuff so

[autumn elbow]

Is the alternate model long hair variant just a alternative or is it required?

[lethal geode]

just an alternative

[rapid mural]

I like how there is clearly still some mystery with "Girl named Yoshizawa" and I am fascinated to see what it will be. I also like how you have changed things not just about the Yoshizawas.

I was up to the first time u could finsih Hentai Castle(Kamoshida) and I started a ng plus to catch up to that point on my vanilla ng save file.

So many little changes and mysteries.

Looking forward to the confidants because I havent started a confidant in ages.

[vernal field]

No spoiling!

[floral hill]

Hey just something random I noticed that T costume thing isn't showing up on my list

[lethal geode]

T costume?

[autumn elbow]

Is there things not implemented yet? Such as during battle it's still Joker's avatar on the corner?

I did have the same problem of just downloading Ryo Framework and it giving me the old version before closing and reopening Reloaded. So fixed that issue as her hair is now brown instead of red.

[random hinge]

It was fixed in Wisteria's mod a long time ago, you shouldn't encounter issues on that part

[lethal geode]

probably using the gb version then

[random hinge]

@half fjord Boop! Could you please pin theses messages in this order:

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Zylvos

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[lethal geode]

oh right

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Zylvos

Rose & Violet - Beta 1
Here's a link to a google drive with the following subfolders:

• Rose & Violet - Story Overhaul : This folder contains the story overhaul mod.
• Model mods : This folder contains the model mods (ponytail and long hair variant). Just pick one. Note : ponytail is "canon".
• Addons : contains addons mods that are optional (Weapon and Equipment patch / Classroom cheat sheet / Confidant cheat sheet).

Remember to use Wisteria latest test build (Pre-release build 1 / Hotfix 2). You only need the main mod (not even the addon mod).

These mods can be installed mid playthrough. However, I recommend starting a new playthrough (with or without NG+) to enjoy the full story.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cpFZisgX0PqGAvu2LipYZ1fk-YIziilB?usp=drive_link

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[lethal geode]

if you want nqn to like

not give a giant embed whenever you link a message

type /ignore_me

and it'll fix it

[random hinge]

Oh, finally

Thanks

[lethal geode]

Yw!

[floral hill]

T pose

called it T because I forgor

[lethal geode]

?

[floral hill]

T pose is the creators name

[lethal geode]

whos name

what mod

[floral hill]

Costume Framework

[lethal geode]

oh

ratkechi

[floral hill]

Ye

[autumn elbow]

Using the pre-release of Kasumi Protag even going up to date still Joker portrait

[floral hill]

But apprently its Ryo now

[lethal geode]

redownload costume framework if it says ratkechi

https://github.com/RyoTune/P5R.CostumeFramework/releases

[floral hill]

Yeah thats what I thought it is Ryotune

Found it

ty tho

[random hinge]

Do you have SPD emulator in your load order?

[autumn elbow]

Oh, you know what. I forgot to actually copy and paste the new files in from the kasumi protag beta 🤣 I think it is using the old one it downloaded FFs. I'll try again.

[lethal geode]

the battle spd shouldnt be breaking, its been fine for months

oh dont copy paste the new files in

instead delete the old version completely

and drag and drop the 7z into the reloaded window

[autumn elbow]

Oh! Thank you.

[lethal geode]

[random hinge]

Took me while to understand the ratkechi problem. Okay, it's Ryotune for me now. It's just that I took the screenshot a few weeks ago

[autumn elbow]

I swore I had done everything but forgot that part Still new to reloaded

[unborn ledge]

Hello, hope you don't mind me. I have a question. In the post, you mentioned That disable tutorials is incompatible, but only maybe. What do you mean? Is there a specific element of it that could make it incompatible? I was planning to use it on my playthrough with This mod, because the tutorials annoy me in repeat playthroughs of these games. However, since I have yet to use that mod in a Playthrough yet (This one was going to be my first time using it), I don't actually know what this mod changes, other than the obvious of removing the obvious pop-up tutorials. Basically, what I'm asking is what does this mod change that would make it incompatible with disable tutorials? I'm curious.

[lethal geode]

Overlapping edits mainly

[queen leaf]

question about reloaded... mine still looks like the red and grey one, how do i get the other one?

[lethal geode]

I don't think it'll work at all actually, tmk Zylvos doesn't use BMD/BF merging whereas Disable Tutorials does

and BMD/BF merging require dummy files, which Rose & Violet would overwrite

[random hinge]

Hi! The disable tutorial mod edits a lot of files I have edited, but it uses the emulator. It's possible it erases some of my edits, but I haven't tested it

[lethal geode]

it might work in some cases but it probably wont

you'd just have to compare what files it edits and see if R&V edits them

if R&V edits them then it wont work at all

and R&V will take precedent

[random hinge]

Well, the files for the bathrooms at Shujin are BF merging and they work with the base files I have edited. They actually apply "on top" of my files and not the vanilla files

[lethal geode]

its not really something you can fix without:

1. Moving the mod to BMD/BF emulator (which is a pain given how many BMDs/BFs are in R&V, and could introduce random issues like how I had issues with post confidant dialogue convos because I made a one dialogue edit to the file and used BMD merging)

2. Incorporating it into the mod itself. Which would mean fundamentally remaking the Disable Tutorials mod and maintaining a separate version of R&V (at least with the edits contained), which is not ideal

[lethal geode]

Do they? I thought BMD emulator just doesn't work if a mod replaces a BMD outright

I just downloaded R&V so I can try testing it

[random hinge]

It's only BF files, no BMDs

[lethal geode]

oops

[lethal geode]

weird

[random hinge]

You can test my bathroom edits by going to the bathroom with Ryuji on april 13th

And going to the bathroom at any other point in game for the emulated files

[jagged dome]

How long is the set up time?

[lethal geode]

prologue speedrun time

[autumn elbow]

Is the add on collection for pre release required as its not in the load order? Just had a scary situation where Kasumi was slenderman but it was a mishap when dragging files into the correct load order the wrong one was dragged

[random hinge]

You can set the calendar directly to april 13th with the mod menu

[lethal geode]

It is not, it's just an optional mod

[random hinge]

What do you mean?

[lethal geode]

Yeah but I wanna get to kamoshida's castle

mainly the first time you go there

since its loaded with tutorial messages

[queen leaf]

what version of reloaded is this

[random hinge]

Oh, okay

[lethal geode]

Ryo's fork

[queen leaf]

huh

sorry im stupid

[lethal geode]

It'd probably be best to just stick with current reloaded then

[queen leaf]

ok

[jagged dome]

Like to set up everything from a fresh Reloaded II

[lethal geode]

Well I did some quick testing and it does seem to work

Although like Zylvos said, it might overwrite R&V edits

So use at your own caution

[random hinge]

Well, uh... it shouldn't be too difficult, so pretty fast I guess? It's just installing a few mods, adjusting the load order and configuring a few of them

[floral hill]

Keeps happeneing.

[lethal geode]

you need to download my mod

[floral hill]

The old one?

I have the beta one

[lethal geode]

#1094412112576651314 message

the new one

oh wait

idk what p5r.script.kasumiprotagonist is

what mods are you using

[random hinge]

Yeah, I have no idea what this is

[floral hill]

I only using what is needed

[lethal geode]

thats the old story overhaul 🙃

delete that one

[floral hill]

oh no

It is gone

[lethal geode]

some other mod is depending on it too

can you share your modlist

[lethal geode]

kill the cbt compat patch

the old story overhaul uses that

and its not needed

@random hinge might want to add a warning for that one in your original post

i should probably do the same

[floral hill]

ah

ok ok

[random hinge]

If that's your load order, you're missing quite a lot of things

[lethal geode]

i think they have kasumi in the search filter

[floral hill]

Fixed that

its all working

[random hinge]

Hummm, ok

[lethal geode]

yeah that was probably a screenshot with search filter on

[floral hill]

I didn't even notice that was the old one

[lethal geode]

bcs i dont think you can even launch p5r with reloaded without cri

[floral hill]

I had kasumi in the filter

sorry LOL

[random hinge]

I still think you're using the old Alternate model mod and the wrong Weapon and Equipment patch

[lethal geode]

thats okay! it happens 😛

[floral hill]

I was

I barely noticed it

[rapid mural]

oh yeah there is a weird thing where if you have a older version of the Kasumi protag mod and drag drop a newer one... It "eats" the old one. It might be fine after that But I don't trust it so I delete the old version when ever they release a update (they meanin Wisteria not they meaning Reloded 2 updates)

[autumn elbow]

Yeah that seems to be the problem. Now I have everything in the right order and the model is joker instead I may just delete and readd the newest betas for each mod as this seems to be reloads doing

[lethal geode]

set costume framework's slot to 1 if it isnt already

specifically joker's slot

not sumire's

mentioning that because i did it one time by accident

[autumn elbow]

I will get this working lol I'm just a noob with reload as it seems to be very stubborn and finicky

[timid birch]

sorry i kinda suck at installing stuff in reloaded without using its own mod searcher. i have the files downloaded, where do i put the extracted files?

[random hinge]

You can drag the .7z files to the load order window

Or you can extract their content into the Reloaded-II\Mods\ folder

[floral hill]

Already loving it

[autumn elbow]

Wow it really was as simple as changing it to slot one. 😂 It's working now

[timid birch]

the "kasumi protag weapons and equipment patch - rose and violet" in the visual guide is

https://gamebanana.com/mods/550938

just this right

[random hinge]

No, it's not that one (it will be released here later though)

It's in the drive link I've posted

[autumn elbow]

the new one should be in the prerelease linked above

[timid birch]

oh

[random hinge]

In the "Addon" folder

[timid birch]

yeah i found it

my b

[rapid mural]

I drove myself baka with the old female protag mod cause she keptJumpscaring me. Then when I realized like a DaiBaka that there is a beautiful Japnese Kasumi voice patch... Ren Jumpscared me. "slot 1. click" done. haha

[rapid mural]

quick Thank you to Z for all the work in Kamoshida's arc! It's pretty rough emotionally in places(in the original) so I just want to give an extra thank you because I know you had to reread, replay a lot and it was surely emotionally rough.

So Arigato ne Merci!

[steady pilot]

Grats on the release. I can't seem to get it working properly in Japanese and as soon as I'm in the field the voices swap to English (when the party is bantering while hopping the ceiling for example). Same with all the battle dialogue or general field dialogue (basically only cutscenes and text boxes I have to click are in Japanese). Also when playing in English, the voice lines still say Senpai rather than sis or nothing at all, though I don't know if that's just how it is (only asking because I remember reading that the gendered terms etc. would be cut, but I could be misremembering)

[autumn elbow]

Now I can finally play something other than bg3 🤣 will continue playing it after work but everything is working great!

[autumn elbow]

Iirc English dub only was available for the mod

Dialogue lines were edited. Idr about the voices tbh

[random hinge]

Thanks! It's probably because of "Royal FemaleAudio". They spliced english voicelines to change the pronouns, so it's going to conflict with Japanese audio

I kind of forgot about that, ahah. I figured people would want to know where to put the FemaleAudio mod in the load order, so I added it

So if you want to play with Japanese audio, don't use "Royal FemaleAudio"

[autumn elbow]

Ooh so Japanese voice over works then?

Some English VA were...not my favorite in the game lol

[random hinge]

As for the "Senpai" voincelines: I didn't edit the voicelines proper so you'll still hear a few of those

[random hinge]

Well, my mod changes only text dialogues so you can use japanese audio if you want

You might get english audio for the two epilogue events though... uh, didn't think of that

Well, maybe you'll get a few english voicelines in the new events I have added

[autumn elbow]

Sweet. Thanks.

[random hinge]

There's probably something to do here with the Localisation Framework. This should only affect like 3 or 4 lines in the entire game, so that's acceptable for now

[steady pilot]

Yeah, it was Royal FemaleAudio, that makes sense. It seems more immersive so I think I'll just play in English, especially if it's better for some of the added R&V events. Thanks

[dawn inlet]

So the hair is brown... Is it supposed to be like or something wrong on my side ?

[spare oak]

supposed to be

[random hinge]

The long hair variant might look weird with some animations, that's "normal"

We (well, Wisteria and MyTamagos) kind of spend all of May trying to fix this and it was still behaving weird

[lethal geode]

you can rig it to ponytail, you can rig it to sumire's hair, there is no running from the clipping monster

i've just learned to live with it honestly

not much you can do unless you're atlus

or want to re-animate the hair keyframes and lookat positions for like every single event in the game

[random hinge]

I'm going to bed. If you guys have more issues, try looking at the messages above if it's not something we already solved. If there's anything unsolved, I'll take a look tomorrow.

For good measure, I'll repost the link of the beta build with the load order:

#1351304235320348683 message

[rapid mural]

royal female audio is brilliant for english but it "twists reality" sometimes when playin in Japnese. But if you dont use it at all and us the "kasumi over Joker" jp voice mod It plays fine. But if you dont mind playin in english go for it! the gendered audio mod really makes a difference I am givin english a shot on the base story cause I am curious how everyone sounds

[queen leaf]

launching thru reloaded and none of the mods even load 😭 literally still joker in the opening animations and title screen

[jagged dome]

anyone know what this could be?

[rapid mural]

Slot 1 in costume

[queen leaf]

i did

[spare oak]

joker is still joker on title screen

[wintry totem]

pretty sure this is custom bonus tweaks

[spare oak]

for now

[mortal steeple]

its Custom Bonus Tweaks

[queen leaf]

oh its just in wisteria's im pretty sure they changed it to kasumi but im not sure

[spare oak]

i saw those but i dont know if that is in the pre release version yet

[rapid mural]

wait just the animations and title screen? did you change the opening movie?

[queen leaf]

ah, maybe they just haven't updated the build yet

ok i see

[rapid mural]

oh yeah there's a setting to change the opening movie that is fun but the opening character is still joker as of right now

thats in wisteria's mod under configure

[queen leaf]

ok gotchu, thanks

just making sure nothing was wrong

[rapid mural]

always! yokatta!

[rapid mural]

do you have thieves den unlocked yet? thats where I always go to check before loading a save. then if I see either Ren or some eldritch abomination I know I need to reload

[queen leaf]

ok thanks

[rapid mural]

No spoilers but... Guess what?? Z has even done some slight changes to audio files in certain places. You will know when you hear em!. I am truly impressed although a little emotional and I aint telling anyone anymore where I am at in the story.

---------/-
Basically Z is a Wizard!

so many little touches here and there that you would not expect when you hear "text mod" or "story overhaul" yer all in for a treat!

[bright hawk]

is rose meant to be called rose in main story scenes (ie after recruiting first shadows)? in the text i mean

[queen leaf]

also dont know why the AOA portraits arent showing up but ive had that problem for a while now

[timid birch]

Is the p5x battle Theme replacement over last surprise intentional?

[spare oak]

Thats another mod

i dont remember which probably bonus tweaks tho

[timid birch]

ill take a look, thnxs

[jagged dome]

I can’t open up the config for Kasumi As Protagonist

I get an error

[silent remnant]

Is the Beta version's story complete?

[jagged dome]

I got everything loaded, except when a battle starts, it crashed

[long hazel]

so dumb question, but is there something special i need to do to drag these into reloaded? its not doing anything when i try
zipped and unzipped

[lethal geode]

download the latest version of reloaded

it fixed that issue

[long hazel]

is there another new one

i got the latest version a couple days ago

[lethal geode]

i dont think so

what version are you on

if its 1.29.0 it should work

[long hazel]

ye 1.29

[lethal geode]

weird

try searching for the mod name

it mightve installed and not told you

[long hazel]

nah it isn't in there, my total mod number didn't change either

[lethal geode]

if its not there try dropping the 7z onto the red part of the reloaded window

additionally make sure you're dragging and dropping it from a file explorer window

[late lark]

Quick questtion. Is there something I have to add to launch options for the reloaded mods to take affect? I can't remember..

[lethal geode]

No just set your costume framework joker slot to 1 and it should work

[late lark]

Oh nah, I should clarify, I use steam deck, so a launch option needs to be set to launch the game with the mods in game mode. Luckily my fiance's steam deck still had it typed in so I copied it into mine. 🙂 I redid my steam deck recently. 🙂

[long hazel]

figured it out, had to extract the files from the google download then go inside of those folders to get the actual zip files to drag in

[peak drift]

Wanted to know if anyone could help. I configured everything properly and have what I believe are the newest versions of the mods in the right order. I'm using the English voices if that helps at all but I get this error specifically when I have the alternative models test build on ponytail version btw. If I turn that one off the game doesn't crash but I get Joker. Idk if I need to change anything around.

[lethal geode]

can you send your full crashlog

Click the big gear icon on the sidebar to get to this page

[peak drift]

yeah thank you

[lethal geode]

In the meantime I'll suggest the usual as a just in case:
Make sure Reloaded-II is on version 1.29.0 - additionally if your .NET version is listed as 9.0.5 you might have to uninstall .NET and downgrade it since 0.5 causes issues with Reloaded

[dull pulsar]

man
wish i can play right now

[peak drift]

sorry I had to find the logs on my computer because the button wasn't working

[lethal geode]

i dont see the crash in here...?

it looks like it just loaded like normal

[dull pulsar]

yeah

didnt find BF file
ignore

[lethal geode]

well

i think its an issue with your reloaded

like the mod launcher itself

its not loading anything

[peak drift]

i'll try getting rid of the.net

[radiant plume]

y'all should be making a #1045463162452987924 post for this, this thread is not support :3

[lethal geode]

well its related to this mod and zylvos was fine with it

besides its better that users report issues here - if its anything more than our mod (like a reloaded issue) then yeah user help is the place to go

[radiant plume]

i feel this thread would be better served as just an update thread tho
having to dig through support stuff might not be fun for everyone

[lethal geode]

thats true but thats just kinda how it is

i feel its to be expected when a testing build is released here

[peak drift]

thank you for the help regardless

[lethal geode]

ofc! if you do keep having that crashing issue i'd recommend doing what rin said and creating a help post

since i think thats a larger problem and neither myself nor zylvos know how to fix that

[peak drift]

So I did change the NET to 9.0.4 then reinstalled Reloaded II. It’s still a problem. I do think it has something to do with the alternate outfits since the game will run if I either turn joker to default in the costume frame work mod or disable the alternate outfits. I’ll try to find my crash log and post it in p5 user help, but I do think it’s related to the mod.

[lethal geode]

i think it has something to do with spd emulator

which alternate outfit mod specifically

the long hair? or ponytail

[peak drift]

Ponytail

But it happens with both

[thorn scroll]

sorry to interrupt but SO excited to play through this mod! started the story (didn't have much time so i only got to the first save point) but wowowowowo omg... this looks GREAT ❤️❤️❤️

[lethal geode]

yeah you would have to post about this in p5 user help

try posting your log too

from what ive seen its some kind of issue with spd emulator

[peak drift]

Got it.

[lethal geode]

which would be an spd emulator issue, although idk why it would be breaking

[peak drift]

custom bonus tweaks and the audio mod run fine. I switched it to an older version of alternate outfits and while kasumi’s model was very messed up it ran. But I’ll check the emulator

[lethal geode]

the crash error throws an spd emulator exception

tmk cbt doesnt use spd emulator

and audio mod definitely doesnt

[peak drift]

Thank you

[lethal geode]

kasumi mod does use spd emulator but those spds do work fine so it would be some other kind of issue that im not sure of

[autumn elbow]

Tried changing outfits and the game froze dancewear to be precise

music and everything still running but stuck on the equipment screen. reloaded keeps spamming "cannot open file"

[lethal geode]

can you send log

[autumn elbow]

Testing it again without wemod to unlock everything and that might have caused an issue. I tried again and the outfit is working. May have been the another item unlock all items may have caused

[lethal geode]

oh umm

i wouldnt use wemod

costume framework has a toggle to unlock all items

and all costumes are unlocked by default

[autumn elbow]

Oh, okay. Thanks! It might have been one of the other items

Like the weapon or accessory

But, I'm trying all the outfits now and it works fine now.

[idle rampart]

if reload itself doesn't work then delete and redownload make sure install .net framework I believe it automatically will provide you a link for .net framework in github

I did all the steps according the pictures and all went well

[autumn elbow]

So many outfits...thank you. They all look great.

[spare oak]

rank 5 charm no longer says enchanting no clue why

[random hinge]

Hummm, what does it say?

Writting this here so I can remember it : socials stats are stored in p5rpc.kasumi.roseandviolet_beta\P5REssentials\CPK\EN.CPK\INIT\CMM.BIN

So if you have another mod with file, there can be interferences

[spare oak]

debonair

[random hinge]

The rest of the mods works, right? What's your load order?

[spare oak]

yes and its what is in the images + a couple minor change mods

[random hinge]

Can you screenshot your load order? It might be a load order issue with your other mods

[spare oak]

It may be Im checking one mod that could potentially change it

Ok i found it

"Always Rankup"

[random hinge]

Alright! Thanks for looking up!

I don't know if I can make it compatible by moving my file around, I'll have to see

[noble sage]

I just wanna say, thank you both for your work on these mods, I have never had as much fun playing this game as I have this run

[spare oak]

yea the mod uses this exact pathway

thats what speak your mind is isnt it

[random hinge]

So it uses the emulator on a part of the file that I have not edited

So, I think i can make it compatible by just moving my file around

Alright, I have a solution

Well, I didn't test the rank up part

But I've got my edits working with the Always Rank up mod enabled

So, move this folder:

p5rpc.kasumi.roseandviolet_beta\P5REssentials\CPK\EN.CPK\INIT

Into:

p5rpc.kasumi.roseandviolet_beta\Characters\Joker\1

At the end, you must have a "INIT" folder in Characters\Joker\1 with two files in it

CMM.BIN and CMPTABLE.BIN

[dull pulsar]

kinda sad it isnt compatible with early violet

but sacrifice have to be made i guess

i say that
despite never actually reaching the ship palace

[random hinge]

I would have to rewrite dialogues specifically for early violet and I'd like Violet to appear in the cutscene and participate in dialogues

[dull pulsar]

agree

i am extremely curious on how you rewrite the entire opening

but i have to experience it myself

[random hinge]

It's quite some work, and I've never used Early Violet so I don't really know how in depth it is currently

[dull pulsar]

while i never actually reach that point

[spare oak]

lowkey peak point tho

[dull pulsar]

but eh
now i have rose
so probably dont need it

[random hinge]

Well, if you've never played the ship palace

I have edited an event to make Rose more involved in it

[dull pulsar]

yeah
the farthest i went is actually noir's introduction palace

[random hinge]

If Violet is here, I'd need to do it for her as well

[dull pulsar]

no need

[random hinge]

Oh don't worry, I wasn't going to do it (for now at least)

[dull pulsar]

i assume the romance option is most male chara now?

[spare oak]

palace of doom and despair

[dull pulsar]

the factory

[random hinge]

Nope, I haven't added new romances. You can still romances the girls (I've edited the dialogues) except Sumire (obviously)

[dull pulsar]

damnit

[random hinge]

The adult romances aren't "supported", which means I didn't edit the dialogues for them

[dull pulsar]

guess i have to find a new girl to romance

[spare oak]

Futaba is less weird now i guess

[dull pulsar]

tho it make sense that kasumi cant romance sumire
-# this aint sweet home alabama

[random hinge]

Adding new romances is a lot of work, ahah. Event editing is a pain

Basically, the supported romances are Ann, Makoto, Haru, Futaba, Hifumi

[dull pulsar]

yeah
just gonna romance futaba

[random hinge]

But

[dull pulsar]

oh nyo

[random hinge]

Even if I didn't add romances for guys, dialogues are sometimes playful

[dull pulsar]

playful

[random hinge]

You'll see 😉

[spare oak]

is the semester 3 ryuji "not interested" line the same

[dull pulsar]

wait
the semester 3 is supported now?

[random hinge]

Valentine's day you mean? There's a lot of teasing betwen Kasumi and Ryuji, you'll see 😉

[spare oak]

his persona evolution

[random hinge]

You're thinking about the other story overhaul, right? I think they didn't finish the 3rd semester

[spare oak]

in his room

[dull pulsar]

i remember reading about a WIP for kasumi
dont remember if it's actually R&V or the protag kasumi

but it say something about semester 3 not supported

[random hinge]

Just to be clear : Rose & Violet is playable from start to finish

[dull pulsar]

nice

[random hinge]

I have edited all the dialogues from the prologue to the ending

[dull pulsar]

opening part gonna be the most interesting

[random hinge]

I don't remember exactly what I wrote for that, but don't worry. Like I said, there's plently of room for new romances to be added with what I wrote

[spare oak]

lol okk

[dull pulsar]

that a stupid question to ask
sorry

[random hinge]

Ask away, no worries

[dull pulsar]

its an overhaul for sumire
of course her entire arc is gonna get changed

my most curious part is the opening
and the reveal that sumire is pretending to be her dead sister
and how you change those part

i assume most of the interaction will be different as well?

[random hinge]

So I won't spoil everything here, but I've made a lot of changes to Sumire's confidant
Her "issues" are still the same, but Kasumi is still here, so it changes things

It's a bit difficult to say more without spoiling things

[dull pulsar]

how about her day to day interaction?

not confidant and stuff

like the train introduction and stuff like that

[random hinge]

Well, play the game to find out 😉

[dull pulsar]

cause it be weird if in those situation
sumire dont recognize her sister

[dull pulsar]

will do in 1 hrs
assuming i can get the mod running without issue once i get home

[random hinge]

@spare oak I should have mentioned this earlier, but if you haven't played the base game to the end, you might get spoiled by people talking about this mod

[spare oak]

Im on my 3rd ng+

[random hinge]

Oh

[dull pulsar]

im the one that havent beaten the game even once

[random hinge]

Oops, my mistake, it was Smolkayu, ahah

[dull pulsar]

but i did watch the entire game in youtube

so i have some knowledge

[random hinge]

Well, you already know about Sumire then

[dull pulsar]

and i never care much about being spoiled

[spare oak]

I'm withholding what ive played of this

[dull pulsar]

yeah
i kinda basically know the entire story of p5r from watching youtube

just never experiencing it first hand

not to mention
-# my balance breaking mod that remove any sense of problem

[spare oak]

Whenever i feel like not trying i switch to maxed izanagi lol

[dull pulsar]

you should look at my broken arsene

[random hinge]

Fair enough. I just recommend playing Rose & Violet after completing the game once to avoid spoilers, but I guess some people are still going to play for the first time with this mod so I'd prefer to warn people

[dull pulsar]

balance?

what's that?

[spare oak]

demon arsene

[dull pulsar]

arsene the unkillable

[spare oak]

only killable by bless 💔

[dull pulsar]

that is if they can kill me first

[spare oak]

and almighty

[dull pulsar]

about that
Proceed to also repel almighty

[spare oak]

rebellion blade and myriad truths is a bit much

[dull pulsar]

yeah
killed the reaper by repelling their megidola

[dull pulsar]

not to mention country maker

tyrant mind

and now
also god maker

welp
time to find the download file

[dull pulsar]

.

[dull pulsar]

@random hinge so uhm
i downloaded the mod
but it isnt appearing in reloaded

[random hinge]

Make sure the folder is like that

Reloaded-II\Mods\p5rpc.kasumi.roseandviolet_beta

[dull pulsar]

soo
rename the folder?

Reloaded-II\Mods\Rose_and_Violet_Beta1-20250530T092016Z-1-001

[random hinge]

No necessarily

There's a "ModConfig.json" in this folder, right?

[dull pulsar]

uhm

[random hinge]

Oh

Okay, I see

[spare oak]

oh

[dull pulsar]

you mean that setup or do i have to deeper?

[random hinge]

So you just downloaded the entire drive folder, right?

There are individual mods in each subfolder

[dull pulsar]

yeah

[random hinge]

They are in .7z archives

So you'll need to drag and drop the .7z onto the load order for Reloaded to install them

[dull pulsar]

oh

[random hinge]

Or you can extract them into your Reloaded-II\Mods\ folder

Addons are optionnal

[dull pulsar]

lol

long af name

[random hinge]

Yeah, so I think it's because the archive doesn't open directly with the mod files

So I think Reloaded doubles down on the name

I'll fix this for later beta, if there's a need for that

I don't want people to have to re-install everything, ahah

[dull pulsar]

no need

time to configure them

where da hell is sumire overhaul?

[random hinge]

Search Yoshizawa overhaul on Gamebanana

[dull pulsar]

oh
that overhaul

configuration done

time to test it

ay
i can enter the game

OH DAMN

[pine maple]

with the costume frame work when i joker in default the character model is all stuffed up because its still joker but the design is the correct outfit but then when he in slot one the model goes back to normal but the outfit is the normal one not Kasumi. i can't figure out why. Literally everything else is perfect apart from this

[dull pulsar]

wait
how do i make it a playable video?

i dont think the hair suppose to twitch like that

yeah
idk how to make the video into a playbackable video

[random hinge]

Are you using the model mod that's on Gamebanana? If so, you need to use the model mod (ponytail or long hair) that's in the drive where you found Rose & Violet. It was updated to work with Wisteria's mod. I think your "Kasumi" doesn't have the heart-shaped leotard

[random hinge]

The hair can twitch a bit in the interrogation scene, it's "normal"

[dull pulsar]

"normal"

[random hinge]

Well unless it's worse than before

I tested it before releasing the beta, it was mostly fine

[fathom wind]

if you're using OBS, go into your output setting and change the recording format from mkv to mp4

[dull pulsar]

I see

[dull pulsar]

Idk
It just a small patch of hair twitching up and down

[random hinge]

Well, it will probably stay like that if that's not too terrible to look at. Animations like these are handled by Wisteria's mod

[dull pulsar]

Hmm
Soo far no change to the opening sequence other than violet calling you sis

is this implying she never went to shujin despite her sister going there?

Yeah
A bit disappointing
But that the best we can get I guess

[random hinge]

Be careful with spoilers

And why would she know about Sumire going to Shujin?

[dull pulsar]

Idk
Cause they sister?

[random hinge]

Then continue playing, it will make sense

Just a reminder : she gets arrested like Joker

And she's sent to Tokyo on probation just like him

[dull pulsar]

Ok
Smaller model when sleeping is always funny

[pine maple]

i downloaded the ponytail one and extracted it to the mod folder but its not appearing on reloaded

[random hinge]

Make sure you delete the old mod from Gamebana entirely. The new one should be put like this
Reloaded-II\Mods\kasumi_as_protag_-_alternate_model130_beta

[pine maple]

this one? if so that's the one that wont appear and the only one i have downloaded

[random hinge]

That's weird. Do you see that in that folder?

[pine maple]

no mine is missing the BGME and Ryo

[random hinge]

Oh, right, that's normal

And it doesn't show in the load order?

Not even at the very bottom?

[pine maple]

not if its named something else or im really dumb

[random hinge]

That's the model mod

[pine maple]

i'll run it now and see what it looks like then

[rapid mural]

When I had that issue what I also did was I put all the secondary mods in first so reloaded says "cant find Rose and Violet" then when you drag and drop it reloaded is searching for it and should grab it like Kasumi with a Bento box.

I found adding it from the manage mods screen worked better too.

That along with Z and Wisteria's advice should help

[dull pulsar]

wait
wdym cendrillon is holding an item that give eiha when she have eiha?

[random hinge]

It's the weapon and equipment patch, it gives Eiha to the protagonist base accessory as a precaution in case Arsène is replaced by Cendrillon (it softlocks the AOA tutorial otherwise)

It's not really needed there, but that not really an issue so don't worry about it

[dull pulsar]

I see

[pine maple]

it's still the same

[random hinge]

Is the alternate model mod below "Kasumi as protagonist - Pre-release build" in your load order?

Your version of Custom Bonus Tweaks is fairly old as well

[pine maple]

i got it

[random hinge]

Yaaay

If they call you "Rose" instead of "Joker" after that, then it's all good

[pine maple]

can't wait to play thanks for the help

[still raven]

Forgive me for asking, but I do recall that romances will be developed later down the line
Is that true? If it isn't then that's completely understandable (event editing suuucks from what I saw), but I want to see if its confirmed
If so im perfectly happy regardless with the ship teases honestly lmao kasumi and ryuji is so cuuuute

[random hinge]

I'll give it a try at least but It may take me a while to get anything done though so not for the first release of the mod

Like you said, event editing drains my soul, and there's quite a lot of stuff to add (Confidant rank 10 with romance, Hawaii, Highschool festival, Christmas x2 for true and vanilla ending, Valentine's day x2 again, White day...)

Also, I'd like to play Metaphor a bit, ahah

[pine maple]

i just got out of the first bit and left the train but for some reason im wearing the Phantom thief outfit outside the metaverse

[noble sage]

It's definitely a whole load of more work, but I think you've already got a great mod here

[noble sage]

have fun, I loved it

[still raven]

Oh no completely understandable! I'm just super happy with what you brought out, its amazing

And yeeesss, have fun with metaphor! Please take a good break you and wisteria and everyone else deserves it!

[random hinge]

Well that's new, never seen that happen

[random hinge]

Can you update your version of Custom Bonus Tweaks with the latest one?

https://gamebanana.com/mods/432481

The version is 2.5.2

[pine maple]

sure thats it btw

[dull pulsar]

how

how did that happen

[random hinge]

Let me know if it says you're missing a dependency, there's a fix

[pine maple]

Alright im downloading it right now it will take a few minutes my internet is crappy atm

[dull pulsar]

i take back what i say
THIS IS PEAK

oh
kasumi skip a grade

[rapid mural]

I can imagine. I know how important story setup is for well any tale.

There are some very emotional points in the palaces whether it is as a female protagonist, the female confidants, as the person you have written Rose as, or even things with the male confidants.

Doing a mod for Royal isn't just coding and doing that Dance of Beautiful Math.

It's also running through a lot of emotional stuff that happens throughout Royal.

So I get it and I really appreciate it.

I Almost bought Metaphor.

I don't know if it will run on my 870m.

Go enjoy it!

I think you've earned a rest

[pine maple]

i did say i was missing dependencies

[random hinge]

https://github.com/DeathChaos25/p5rpc.evt.fadeouttablemerge/releases

Download this

p5rpc.evt.fadeouttablemerge1.0.0.7z
And install it like any other mod
And enable it

[dull pulsar]

kinda sad that kasumi's hair is brown while in mementos/palace

[random hinge]

What do you mean? That's her hair color. Lighting in Mementos/Palaces can make it look a different, but it's the same color on every model

[pine maple]

it still didn't work?

is the update correct?

[dull pulsar]

idk
when in the opening combat with violet
her hair color is noticeably darker than violet

[dull pulsar]

even in this image
you can notice the hair color is different

[random hinge]

I don't really see anything wrong here. Where's Wisteria's test build in the load order?

[random hinge]

I'm sorry, I don't understand what the issue is. The hair is too much brown?

That lighting can change the way the colors look ingame

[pine maple]

like how far down the list or what its before

[random hinge]

Is it before all my mods?

[pine maple]

yes i believe so

[random hinge]

Hummmm

Did you configure all the mods correctly?

[dull pulsar]

kinda
more of a nitpick

[pine maple]

by the looks of it

should i start another new game?

[random hinge]

Does the problem still happen? With the Phantom Thief outfit?

[pine maple]

The previous problem i had?

[random hinge]

Yes, that one #1351304235320348683 message

[thorn scroll]

hey quick question, the HP/SP bar is supposed to be kasumi and not still joker, right? mine is still joker but with kasumi's ponytail... behind him, for some reason... off the top of anyone's head does anyone think they might know what could be causing this issue? if not don't worry, i'll figure it out when I get home from school lol

[pine maple]

i'll start my game again and check

[random hinge]

Does it look like this?
#1094412112576651314 message

If that the case, Wisteria made a hotfix

#1094412112576651314 message

I've never had this issue

[pine maple]

yes

[random hinge]

Hum

Can you try going to the Thief den?

If the default model is the PT outfit, this will be easier to test than replaying the prologue

[pine maple]

alright let me get to the thevies den and then ill let you know

[dull pulsar]

honestly
a bit awesome imo

[pallid thicket]

considering sumi's hair goes bright red, kasumi's hair going darker kinda matches

i quite like it

[dull pulsar]

true
also make it easier to know which is which

[pine maple]

I still have the outfit on when I go to bed and in the flash back dream

Haven't gotten to the den yet

[random hinge]

You can access the thief den on the main menu if it's not your first game

[random hinge]

So all models are replaced by the PT outfit ?

[pine maple]

I think so

[pine maple]

I had to restart because I only got it on pc recently and I was waiting for the mod to cone out before playing it

[random hinge]

Oh, okay

In that case

When Sojiro hands you the diary

Can you save your game

We'll test things here

[pine maple]

Sure

[random hinge]

Now to figure out why this is happening

[pine maple]

I have saved

[rapid mural]

I kind of like too how the brunette is initally the special one and the one with the vibrant red hair is the quiet one. (talking original Royal not R and V)

Its actually a bit closer to real life vs perceptions in real life. (Kids with red hair actually get bullied a lot so many end up very quiet reserved souls or always were)

But I am a natural brunette myself!

So I like that Kasumi is a brunette.

[random hinge]

Alright, now disable my "Alternate model" mod and load your save

[thorn scroll]

It DOES, actually. Thank you so much.

I'll try that as soon as I'm able ♥️

[random hinge]

Just in case, you need to quit the game and restart it every time you disable/enable a mod

[rapid mural]

A lot of that is carried forth in the r and v mod too without givingg spoilers. And its kind of neat to expereince it all

[random hinge]

Alright, we've established it's not my fault, ahah

Now, disable everything below "Event Fadeout Table Merging"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351304235320348683/1377981302871162940/Screenshot_2025-05-30_213419.png?ex=683af098&is=68399f18&hm=43a4b06a644aaf92c18d8278611be05fbe0a539be593b4089ad68cd97f718922&

So we can test something that's kind of vanilla game

[pine maple]

Alright I've disabled them

[random hinge]

Alright, load the save

[pine maple]

back to joker

[random hinge]

And not in his Phantom Outfit

Alright, so it's something you've disabled just now that's causing this

Progress!

Can you enable now "Kasumi as protagonist - Pre release build"

Also, can you tell me what version of it you are using?

[pine maple]

of the mod?

[random hinge]

Yes, of "Kasumi as protagonist - Pre release build"

[pine maple]

thats what is says where the version numbers normally are

[random hinge]

Alright, try enabling it now

And load the save

[floral hill]

The metaverse in real life?!?!!!!!

[random hinge]

Okaaaay

[pine maple]

https://tenor.com/view/cinema-gif-5935759059195122434

[random hinge]

What do you have enabled here?

In the configure menu

[random hinge]

Well I have no idea

Try disabling "Undarkened Face"?

[pine maple]

i can give it a shot

[random hinge]

Oh no, I think I know

AAAAAAAAAA

[pine maple]

alright i shall wait

[random hinge]

Configure Option for Costume Framework

Do you have overworld outfits enabled?

Hmm, but why doesn't it happen with Joker

[pine maple]

that fixed it omg i feel so dumb

[random hinge]

Nah, I should've known

[pine maple]

but it is weird that i doesn't happen for joker

[random hinge]

Yeah, no idea why

[pine maple]

maybe its because he's still in slot 1 or something

[random hinge]

Alright, you can enable the other mods now

Well, it's true that in the load order, only Wisteria's mod (and mine) have something in the Slot_1

Then again, Costume Framework use the Phantom Thief "costume" instead of it's base model in cutscene, events, etc

Well, that doesn't matter

[still raven]

Aughghghg kamoshida no-

[random hinge]

As long as it works now

[pine maple]

Yippee its all fixed thank you so much sorry for not realizing how obvious it was to fix

[random hinge]

No worries, I'll probably compile all the issues people are having so I can have that ready just in case

Though I didn't expect so many issues getting everything set up

[naive aspen]

Could persona essentials be an incompatable mod? having it on the top of the load order causes the game to crash but under the load order makes the screen black after loading and spams the console with this message

[pine maple]

well it's prob better like this so when it fully comes out everything is perfect

[random hinge]

Huh, no. Persona Essentials is basically required for all mods to function

It seems like it's trying to find a model that doesn't exist

[naive aspen]

weird cause it works when it's disabled

[random hinge]

What's your version of Persona Essentials?

[naive aspen]

2.9.2

[random hinge]

Hummm

Weird

What's your load order?

It's weird that it's looking for C0000_007_00 in 0001 folder

It should be looking in 0000

But I've never seen a model in 0000

[random hinge]

Hum, do you play without Ryo Framework / CRI Filesystem/ BGME framework enabled?

I would try putting them all together at the top like I did here

[naive aspen]

omg i'm stupid

sorry for that 😓

[random hinge]

Well, you may have issues with the voice mod since Ryo Framework is disabled

[naive aspen]

i enabled all 3 and my game just crashes now

[random hinge]

On startup?

[naive aspen]

yes

it shows the log, game window opens and a few seconds later it crashes

Could very maybe be proton related?

[random hinge]

You mean the steam deck?

[naive aspen]

yes

[random hinge]

I don't know, I don't have one :/

Can you screenshot you new load order with the versions?

Just in case

[naive aspen]

i just opened reloaded again and it placed the mod order in alphabetical order

computers confuse me

[random hinge]

Yeah, that's weird

I must have said that 50 times since I've released the beta

[naive aspen]

Haha

welp I’m gonna follow the tutorial you gave on the correct mod order and see if it works after that

[random hinge]

There were around 1000 messages on this thread yesterday before the beta

Now there're 1900

[naive aspen]

Maybe time to invest into a support agent

[random hinge]

Yeah, I though making the setup images would make things easier, ahah

Hey, if there's people that have had no issue setting everything up, put a reaction under this message

[naive aspen]

I have been testing for the last hour and i was able to determine the crashes are cause by the Royal Female Audio mod or intro skip being enabled in persona essentials

here's my load order, same happens when i disable all mods not related to rose & violet

[random hinge]

I have the intro skip enabled and the P5R FemaleAudio mod

So there must be something else that's causing this

Just to test it : can you put Persona Essentials and CRI FileSystem V2 Hook at the very top of the load order (and in that order)?

[kind shell]

Kinda tempted to get it now but idk. Reaaaallly excited but could way for full release on Bannana. I take it it'll be pretty easy to update from the one you just sent to the full release on the Bannnan
Sorrry for adding another question for you to answer but peeeep

[random hinge]

If you manage to get everything to work, it will be as easy as replacing the beta folder with the final mod when it releases on GameBanana. I don't know when this is going to happen though. I'd like the beta to last a bit to see if people encounter deeper issues with the mod

(they shouldn't, but you never know)

But that's alright if you want to wait. The aim of the beta is to test things, and it seems I have plenty of testers

[idle rampart]

you are correct after what I just tried everything and it still goes infinite load so yeah I will use the beta 0.22 one until the official release

[kind shell]

Yaaaa may aswell do now maybe now thinking maybadwell download now. Do my part to help find any problems!

[timid birch]

Question, social links are changed I know, but wb romance options? Same as base or changed in just dialogue options to mirror the concept? I assume its a lot of coding to do all of that.

Esp for holiday event stuff, like Hawaii moment, Christmas, etc.

[random hinge]

The 0.2.2 version that's on Gamebanana is very old. I don't understand what's causing the infinite loading screen with the pre-release build for you. Maybe Wisteria will have a better idea

[naive aspen]

Tried that and it started with royal female audio enabled but started crashing again after also enabling intro skip and keeps crashing even after i disabled both again

[random hinge]

No new romances, only girls can be romanced. Dialogues are changed for the "supported" romances.
Supported romances : Ann, Makoto, Futaba, Haru, Hifumi
Unsupported romances (no change to dialogues = Joker dialogues) = Kawakami, Chihaya, Takemi, Ohya
Blocked romances : Sumire
There's a warning before starting unsupported romances so you don't start them by accident if you don't want to.
All hangouts dialogues for supported romances are edited (including hangout with the guys. Those were fun to make as they still happen with Ryuji,etc.)

[idle rampart]

I know but it's stable though it didn't cause any crash games I used it for 2 playthrough already

[random hinge]

I'm going to copy paste that somewhere because I think I'll get that question often (no worries)

[timid birch]

Ah gotcha! Do you have plans to change that down the line? Again, I assume it's a lot of coding

[naive aspen]

restarted but didn't change anything

[random hinge]

I'll look into it, but that's going to take a while since it's a lot of work and event editing (Confidant rank 10 with romance, Hawaii, Highschool festival, Christmas x2 for true and vanilla ending, Valentine's day x2 again, White day...)
Dialogues with the guys are sometimes playful and there's plenty of room to add romances for them later on. It's just too much work for the first release (and there's some coding to do)

[timid birch]

Yeah, I figure it's more than just simple text editing

A lot more

[random hinge]

I have a feeling it's Ryo related

Maybe it's trying to access a file it's can't find and it crashes

[naive aspen]

should i send a log?

[random hinge]

Yes, please

[naive aspen]

give me a sec I gotta find the correct wine container

[naive aspen]

here it is

[random hinge]

I can't see anything wrong

Well, looks like we'll have to bruteforce this

Can you disable everything below Custom Bonus Tweaks

[naive aspen]

give me a sec

[random hinge]

And enable the intro skip

See if it crashes

[naive aspen]

it started normally

[dull pulsar]

kinda cute how rose call them senpai

[vernal field]

for this mod do I have to download all three folders for it to work

[random hinge]

Now enable P5R Female Audio

[random hinge]

Rose & Violet - Story Overhaul : This folder contains the story overhaul mod.
Model mods : This folder contains the model mods (ponytail and long hair variant). Just pick one.
Addons : contains addons mods that are optional (Weapon and Equipment patch / Classroom cheat sheet / Confidant cheat sheet).

[vernal field]

I see I see

[timid birch]

What exactly is the weapon and equip patch btw? Just cosmetic changes to jokers weapons to mirror violet's?

[random hinge]

It changes the equippable armor to female only for Rose, renames the guns and swords and change the gun to 10 rounds with a slight damage reduction for balance

[rapid mural]

So a really simple question that I think I know the answer for already. The anime movies are basically movie files yes? I mean regardless of format they are basically 1-2 minute episodes of "Ren Amiyami Leads The Phantom Thieves As Joker" correct?

vs other cutscenes that HAVE to use game models either because of length or player input?

[random hinge]

You can follow the guide here for the set up. I have marked the optional mods in the load order
#1351304235320348683 message

[naive aspen]

I was getting this error again but i started it a 2nd time and it loaded normally

[random hinge]

Well, at least now we know that error (even if it fixes itself sometime) is related to one of the mod above Royal FemaleAudio

Alright, enable everything until Rose & Violet Confidant cheat sheet (except the Classroom and Confidant cheat sheet that are not Rose & Violet)

I'll try to find those 0000 models

[random hinge]

Yeah, I think they're just movie files. Other cutscenes with the 3D characters, now that they're no longer pre-rendered, are basically events like any other which means they can be somewhat edited

[naive aspen]

happened again, first boot it crashed 2nd boot it loaded correctly

3rd boot crashed again

[random hinge]

I don't even know if I want to call this a stochastic or deterministic crash

[naive aspen]

i think this mod just doesn't like me

[random hinge]

Can you check your configure options? There might be something here that's causing this

[naive aspen]

which ones specifically?

[random hinge]

Costume Framework

Do you have something like this?

[random hinge]

Alright, disable current party bgm and extra outfits

[naive aspen]

still crashes

tested 2 times

[random hinge]

Alright, let's move on to Custom Bonus Tweaks. Can you show your configure options?

[rapid mural]

I thought so. Thankfully the only thing that doesn't have the crumple fast forward are the scenes that use models.

It's sometimes funny when yer nor payin attention though!

Like "Who is that funny fellow with the Black hair???"

[vernal field]

I dunno what the deal is but I can't get any of the three mods to show up in my modlist

[random hinge]

You did extract the .7z files into your Reloaded-II\Mods\ ?

Or drag and drop the .7z onto the load order?

Someone tried to do that with the drive folder instead of the indiviual mods, that won't work

[vernal field]

Extracted and put in my mod folder

[summer nova]

I have a question, because I kind of forgot

Oh

That answers that question, thanks lmao

[random hinge]

So if you go to Reloaded-II\Mods\p5rpc.kasumi.roseandviolet_beta

(or some name like that)

You can see this, right?

[random hinge]

Alright, try enabling "New Extra Outfits (Joker)"

[vernal field]

I now understand what happened

There were zipped files inside the zipped files

[random hinge]

Oh

[naive aspen]

crash

[random hinge]

So you downloaded the drive subfolders, extracted them which extracted the 7z I had put inside

[pine maple]

btw wanted to let you know have had zero problems with the mod since the first problem really enjoying it

[summer nova]

Which one do I use?

[random hinge]

Enable "Randomize Title Screen" and "Combat BGM enhancements"?

[random hinge]

Just to be clear, this is Wisteria's mod, not Rose & Violet. You need it anyway for my mod to function.
You need "p5pc.kasumiasprotag-PRE-RELEASE1.03-HF1"

[summer nova]

Thanks

There were three but one of them was pretty clearly not it